Rebel News Podcast - Off The Cuff Declassified： Trouble for Comey, Unsolved homicides, & liberal media reined in

00:00:00.000 Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, trouble for James Comey as the impending inspector

00:00:05.120 general's report allegedly paints him as insubordinate. Robert Mueller ratchets up

00:00:10.740 his intimidation tactics. Daniel Horowitz joins me to discuss the latest Supreme Court decision.

00:00:16.800 I'm going to tell you about 50,000 unsolved homicides in the U.S. and why many are occurring

00:00:22.680 in the same areas? And big trouble for liberal television personalities. One has reined in,

00:00:30.360 the other publicly shamed.

00:00:37.420 Trouble for former FBI director, fired FBI director, James Comey as this impending inspector general's

00:00:45.240 report paints him as having had defied authority and being insubordinate. Now,

00:00:51.920 there are elements of this OIG report leaking. That's why I say allegedly, we don't know

00:00:56.820 if what we're seeing now will comport with the full report, but I suspect it will. This was being

00:01:03.800 reported by ABC News, and I'm reading to you from a New York Post story, citing a draft of inspector

00:01:09.660 general Michael Horowitz's report, ABC, that Comey was rebuked for failing to consult. And I'm going

00:01:16.020 to tell you my problems with it. Because it's problematic for Comey, but it really doesn't

00:01:23.060 help the Republicans, Trump. So citing a draft of I.G. Michael Horowitz's report, ABC said Comey

00:01:29.860 was rebuked for failing to consult with then attorney general Loretta Lynch and other top DOJ

00:01:36.860 officials before he announced the FBI completed its investigation into Clinton's personal email

00:01:43.880 server. During the July 5th news conference, which we all remember, Comey said there was

00:01:49.060 no, quote, clear evidence that Clinton, quote, intended to violate the law, but he called her

00:01:56.060 handling of the classified information, as you well remember, extremely perilous. Now, the report

00:02:02.020 supposedly also slams Loretta Lynch for handling of the investigation, especially that June 2016

00:02:09.960 meeting with Bill Clinton on a private jet. That I've been telling you for well over a year,

00:02:16.340 that meeting was filthy. It is unheard of. Unheard of in an investigation for the chief prosecutor

00:02:26.800 to meet with the husband of the suspect without any other attorneys present. It is bizarre. It doesn't

00:02:36.380 happen. It is completely improper, possibly illegal. Now, the draft report also said that Comey ignored

00:02:45.580 objections from inside the Department of Justice when he alerted Congress that the FBI had reopened the

00:02:51.880 probe in a Clinton's email server 11 days before the election. Comey was all over the place. Comey was all

00:02:58.840 over the place. Now, this OIG report bothers me for a couple of reasons. Number one, it's going to make

00:03:06.360 it look as if Comey tried to throw the election for Trump. By calling him insubordinate, by saying that

00:03:13.460 he acted, he defied authority, it will give Trump's firing of him cover. But no one is going to be

00:03:20.600 criminally charged for trying to engage in a soft coup against a political campaign, then the campaign

00:03:27.180 president-elect and president-elect and now the president of the United States. And that's off

00:03:31.600 coup, of course, trying to be carried out with Robert Mueller's bogus investigation. So while I'm

00:03:37.260 happy to see Comey being called to task in some way, I'm very disappointed at how tepid, how softly

00:03:47.580 this is all being worded. He defied authority. He was insubordinate. None of this is really

00:03:55.560 Comey broke the law. He leaked classified memos. We, OIG, agree with Congress. He should be criminally

00:04:04.300 referred for prosecution. We're not seeing that. And that concerns me because Mueller's team,

00:04:10.520 man, are they getting heavy handed? This from CNBC, but it's all over the place. Special counsel

00:04:17.520 Robert Mueller's team is requesting that witnesses, mind-blowing, that witnesses turn in their personal

00:04:24.880 phones to inspect their encrypted messaging programs. Absolutely not. So think about this now. I'm going

00:04:35.280 to read you. I'm going to read you excerpts from the left-leaning lawfare blog where even they, and they

00:04:41.120 despise Donald Trump over there. They're very concerned about the level of evidence Mueller has

00:04:48.160 with regards to witness tampering on the part of Paul Manafort. They call it virtually non-existent.

00:04:54.500 So what Mueller's team is doing here, and let me read you a couple of excerpts and we'll analyze.

00:04:59.420 This from CNBC. Special counsel Robert Mueller's team is requesting that witnesses turn in their

00:05:04.340 personal phones to inspect their encrypted messaging programs. This is the more problematic part.

00:05:10.880 And potentially view conversations between associates linked to President Donald Trump.

00:05:21.760 And they're asking people to turn these phones in, and many are because they don't want to be

00:05:26.920 subpoenaed and have to spend more money figuring out if what Mueller is doing is constitutional.

00:05:33.160 This has now gone from prosecutorial misconduct to potential criminal abuse of authority, in my

00:05:42.860 opinion. Since as early as April, Mueller's team has been asking witnesses in the Russia probe to turn

00:05:49.980 over phones for agents to examine private conversation on WhatsApp, Confide, Signal, and Dust,

00:05:58.000 all encrypted applications, according to the sources who spoke, of course, on the condition of anonymity.

00:06:04.260 Fearing a subpoena, witnesses have complied and given over their phones. This is killing.

00:06:12.020 The United States government, via an unrestricted, unmanaged, unmanageable special counsel with seemingly

00:06:21.600 unlimited power who works outside of the Department of Justice, a man who went through no confirmation

00:06:29.760 process, is now violating, with a wink and a nod, the Fourth Amendment protections of Americans.

00:06:37.400 Give me your cell phone. I want to look at all your encrypted apps.

00:06:41.900 Or, hey, we can do this the hard way, or we can do this the easy way.

00:06:46.260 The hard way is I get a subpoena, and it costs you another $100,000.

00:06:49.600 You might win. You're probably going to win. But do you have the $100,000?

00:06:54.360 I didn't think so. Give me the phone. What Mueller is doing now is disgusting.

00:07:00.580 Now, this is beyond Trump, beyond Manafort, beyond Gates, beyond General Flynn, beyond Papadopoulos.

00:07:07.160 This is now the Constitution. Mueller is now abusing,

00:07:11.780 rampling the constitutional rights of Americans.

00:07:14.540 Now, they're saying that the revelation that Trump associates are giving Manafort access

00:07:20.180 to their encrypted apps comes, obviously, as Mueller is alleging that Manafort tampered with

00:07:26.940 witnesses. And we're going to get into that in a moment. And why some people think that is a

00:07:30.740 ridiculously silly allegation. Now, we spoke about that, that Mueller is alleging that Manafort

00:07:37.780 called certain people in a business he was involved in that has ties to the Ukraine

00:07:42.600 to influence their testimony, influence what they tell investigators. However, like I said,

00:07:49.880 the Lawfare blog, which we'll get to in just a bit, finds this claim very dubious.

00:07:55.100 And they do one of the best jobs at analyzing the individual conversations

00:07:59.180 and explaining why they think Mueller's claim is flimsy and, you know, razor thin, paper thin

00:08:07.280 at best. But let's take a look at the bigger problem here. Now, we use encrypted apps like

00:08:15.600 Confide, like Signal, like WhatsApp to protect our privacy. We don't want anybody looking at our

00:08:20.520 conversations, the least of which is government, especially if we're witnesses. We're not subjects.

00:08:26.560 We're not under criminal investigation indictment. Now, the CNBC explains what these are. And they

00:08:36.400 explain how certain services encrypt your messages. Others like dust. Your messages go away. They turn

00:08:41.980 to dust in 24 hours. Now, legal experts are not surprised by Mueller's move. It isn't surprising

00:08:48.100 that witnesses voluntarily giving over possible evidence to federal investigators. And Robert Ray,

00:08:54.180 who was an independent counsel during Bill Clinton's whitewater investigation, says it's just more

00:08:58.800 typical for law enforcement to ask for consent for the obvious reason that it's much easier

00:09:02.880 than applying to the court to get judicial permission, meaning a subpoena or a warrant.

00:09:08.620 He added, it's not that it's not it's not commonplace, but not all that unusual either.

00:09:14.320 Now, Michael German, a retired FBI agent and a current fellow with the Brennan Center for Justice's

00:09:19.640 Liberty program. There's nothing wrong with asking people to voluntarily provide information to the

00:09:25.320 FBI for whatever investigation. And to the extent that that's a voluntary action is where the rub is.

00:09:33.040 That's the point. That's the point. Is it voluntary if the government says to you,

00:09:39.820 we're going to get a subpoena? And if you don't give it to us, well, maybe you're doing something

00:09:46.120 wrong. So are you voluntarily giving over the phone or are you waiving your Fourth Amendment rights

00:09:52.120 under duress because of the threat of a crushing legal bill, your name being smeared, a potential

00:09:58.460 investigation, them potentially jamming you up on some bogus false statement charge because,

00:10:05.000 excuse me, my allergies are terrible because you've watched them do it in the past.

00:10:09.120 That's the problem here. Is it voluntary? Is it voluntary? I don't think it is. I think that

00:10:18.900 Mueller has shown himself to be heavy handed. Mueller has kicked in Paul Manafort's door at five

00:10:23.180 in the morning and frisked his wife while she was in her nightgown at gunpoint. You don't do that

00:10:29.360 in white collar crime cases. Mueller is acting in one of the most heavy handed intimidation tactic

00:10:36.400 fashions I've ever watched a prosecutor operate. Now on to what the lawfare blog says. Now it's

00:10:42.800 written by Paul Rosenzweig. This guy is a veteran of the Department of Homeland Security. He's a left

00:10:48.080 leaning guy. He hates Trump. He even says in the second paragraph of this piece, I yield to no one

00:10:55.900 in my disdain for President Trump. And I certainly have no brief for Manafort.

00:11:02.080 Manafort. Hmm. He's that is no friend of the administration. So this is entitled the Manafort

00:11:09.540 tampering allegation. And this guy, Rosenzweig, who just said he yields to no one in the disdain

00:11:16.880 of President Trump. He has no brief for Manafort. Let me read you that paragraph. I yield to no one

00:11:22.500 in my disdain for President Trump, but I certainly have no brief for Manafort, who has been accused

00:11:26.180 of laundering tens of millions of dollars from sources connected with Russia and the Ukraine.

00:11:31.440 Thus, my overall assessment is that Manafort has some significant legal exposure and that

00:11:36.720 given his role in the Trump presidential campaign, that exposure is of concern to Trump and of interest

00:11:43.280 to the special counsel. Now, I disagree with Rosenzweig there because Manafort was only around the

00:11:48.060 campaign for weeks. His exposure to Trump was limited to talking about delegate wrangling when

00:11:53.400 they were talking about a brokered or a contested convention. Manafort was not well liked by the

00:11:59.060 grassroots ground teams, the state directors. Manafort was in. Manafort was out. So his role in the

00:12:05.080 Trump campaign, really no big deal. But even after saying that, this guy, Rosenzweig, says,

00:12:11.580 all that said, I think the special counsel's allegations of witness tampering are dot, dot, dot rather

00:12:19.800 thin. And what he basically says is that the evidence of communications between Manafort

00:12:27.040 and witnesses, he is alleged to have contacted in a tampering effort. Well, all that is really flimsy,

00:12:34.320 thin at best. I'll read you what he writes. Study that exhibit, the exhibit N, and you will see that

00:12:40.700 Manafort was successful in speaking to one witness for exactly one minute and 24 seconds.

00:12:49.040 He attempted three other calls that did not connect, and he sent two WhatsApp messages,

00:12:55.220 one a link to an article describing his indictment, and the other saying, we should talk.

00:13:01.620 When asked about the contents of the conversation with Manafort, according to paragraph 14 of the

00:13:06.980 FBI declaration, person D1 said that, quote, Manafort stated that he wanted to give person D1 a heads

00:13:15.660 up about Habsburg and that D1, the subject, immediately terminated the call because they were concerned

00:13:22.900 about that conversation being deemed improper. That is hardly witness tampering. If a person is

00:13:31.320 indicted and charged and they call somebody they did business with and said, hey, take a look at this

00:13:35.520 news item. I just want to give you a heads up. I want to explain it to you. That's not witness tampering.

00:13:42.060 He goes, and that's it, really. The other part of the allegation is that someone else,

00:13:47.540 person A, reached out to person D2 and told D2 in a series of texts that P, presumably Paul Manafort,

00:13:54.280 was trying to reach D1 to brief him. And that, quote, basically P, presumably Paul Manafort,

00:14:01.180 wants to give him a quick summary that he says to everybody, which is true, that our friend never lobbied

00:14:07.860 in the U.S. and the purpose of the program was the EU, end quote. A month later, person A reached out

00:14:13.940 to D1. Now, the key to all this is person D1's perception. He says he thinks that Manafort was trying to

00:14:21.440 suborn his perjury because he knew that the Habsburg group had, in fact, lobbied in the United States.

00:14:26.840 Person D2 also seemed to think that Manafort was doing the same. Now, they might be right.

00:14:35.000 Manafort might have been trying to do it, but what they think without corroborating evidence,

00:14:42.440 well, it's kind of irrelevant. And that's what Rosenzweig writes here. He writes,

00:14:46.320 but direct evidence against Manafort is almost non-existent, non-existent, saying, quote,

00:14:51.940 we should talk, quote, end quote, and I want to give you an update, end quote, or a heads up,

00:14:56.260 end quote, is hardly the stuff that witness tampering charges are made of. And more to the

00:15:02.360 point, he writes, if the entire conversation in which Manafort participated lasted for less than a

00:15:09.980 minute and a half, remember, a minute and 24 seconds, he'd have to be a very, very fast talker

00:15:14.280 to have accomplished tampering. All of this really describes very nicely what Robert Mueller's been

00:15:21.640 doing to date, doesn't it? Twisting arms, using intimidation tactics, and leveling bogus charges

00:15:30.360 on virtually no allegations because he needs a scalp, because he needs a scalp. So this guy,

00:15:37.860 I want to read you his summary. He writes, so what's going on here? Why would Mueller's team,

00:15:41.500 whose actions to date have been premised on overwhelming evidence? That's not true.

00:15:45.260 Take this risk and go out on this evidentiary limb. My speculation is simple. This is a sign

00:15:51.760 that they are feeling pressure, possibly from Trump, possibly from Rod Rosenstein, possibly just from

00:15:57.940 reading the public tea leaves. Whatever the source of that pressure, they have an increased sense of

00:16:03.300 urgency to move quickly. And that translates to the want and need from Manafort's cooperation.

00:16:09.580 By doing this, we spoke about it yesterday, by twisting arms, by threatening witnesses,

00:16:14.940 by putting pressure on them, by throwing these bogus charges at Manafort of witness tampering,

00:16:20.440 you pressure Manafort to cooperate and put an end to this before Mueller is publicly discredited and

00:16:26.940 shamed further. This is a perversion of our criminal justice system. From the OIG report going,

00:16:33.460 what I think is soft on Comey, to Manafort trampling the Constitution. And it all needs to come to a

00:16:39.380 head to an end very, very quickly.

00:16:53.800 Busy, busy week for Supreme Court decisions. The president seems to be pardoning anyone he wants

00:16:59.140 to pardon, which I don't have a problem with, but others do. Although I will say I haven't seen anybody

00:17:04.120 yet that I have a problem with. Here to make sense of it all is my good friend, Daniel Horowitz,

00:17:09.360 senior editor of Conservative Review and somebody who is very passionate on these issues. Daniel is

00:17:14.300 often my go-to guy on Supreme Court decisions. Daniel, thanks as always for being here.

00:17:19.440 Great to be with you. Busy times.

00:17:21.400 Busy, busy. I know both of us are hoarse because we're talking so much about this.

00:17:26.180 All right. First, the masterpiece decision. So let's break this down. Seven to two,

00:17:30.860 I believe Kagan, she voted with the Conservatives on this one, right?

00:17:36.880 She did. And it's a trap. Okay. Well, explain this because you've been one of the few people

00:17:41.880 out there that doesn't like this decision, that's really digging in. Run with it. Explain why this

00:17:47.760 is a trap. What's wrong with this decision? Of course, we're talking about the decision in favor

00:17:53.120 of the bakery that refused to bake a cake, a wedding cake for a gay couple.

00:17:57.440 Sure. I have the right, John, to go into your house, take your cookies on the table,

00:18:03.800 take the milk in the refrigerator, take your pillows. And you know what? I could even take

00:18:08.860 your wife. But see, in this case, I was really, really rude about it. And they said,

00:18:16.180 you can't do that. You just can't do that. And you're like, well, what's the that? Well,

00:18:21.460 be rude about it. Okay. Okay. So your initial, just for the audience, your initial assessment is

00:18:27.220 they didn't, they didn't address the underlying offense. The one thing is they, they, they look,

00:18:33.500 they didn't, they didn't address it. They didn't address the underlying offense legally. They

00:18:38.700 addressed a symptom. They're saying you could rip somebody off. Just be polite when you do it.

00:18:43.400 But, but let me just say it a little stronger. It's not just that they didn't address it. They

00:18:49.260 didn't address it in a legally binding way because it wasn't relevant to the case, but they absolutely

00:18:55.280 said very clearly that, and this is not a direct quote as, but as a general rule, you as a private

00:19:03.520 business owner cannot assert religious liberty rights to deny people service. It was, they were just

00:19:08.800 saying in this case that they were set up, they weren't, they did the Colorado, Colorado civil

00:19:15.240 rights commission did not apply your law neutrally. If you actually do a word search on neutral in the

00:19:22.100 opinion, it comes up over a dozen times. The ACLU lawyers are right. You know, I agree with them in

00:19:28.720 the sense that they lost the battle, but won the war. Most other circumstances.

00:19:34.040 Daniel, let's, let's go there. So are you saying they won the war because of, and what you paraphrase

00:19:40.700 the Supreme court ultimately saying the Colorado civil rights commission got this one wrong. So we

00:19:46.480 have to rule in favor of the bakery. However, in the broader sense, we feel that a baker should have to

00:19:53.980 bake a cake for a gay couple because that baker doesn't have a right to exert religious liberties 1.00

00:19:59.080 as a reason to deny service. That, and also in conjunction with the fact that the lower courts

00:20:04.900 like the ninth circuit have already done this in the Stormans case, forcing a pharmacy to stock their

00:20:11.860 shells with every type of contraception, many other cases. And the, and the Supreme court is not taking

00:20:17.820 up the appeal. So did we a hundred percent officially lose yet? No, but that's my point.

00:20:25.920 We need to act legislatively in Congress and the state legislatures to protect this beforehand.

00:20:33.340 This is the equivalent of being in between Windsor and Obergefell on gay marriage. You didn't yet lose, 1.00

00:20:39.460 but you know, you will. And that's my point here. Yeah. It's better than if it would have been a hundred

00:20:44.700 percent the other way, but I'm just telling you the fact that Kagan and Breyer signed on

00:20:50.080 was a way of, of screwing us in the long run. And we, and it's hanging by a thread and, you know,

00:20:57.840 like anything hanging by a thread, you got to come there and secure it immediately.

00:21:01.540 But what is the solution? Is it, is it legislative, the solution where, where states and the federal

00:21:06.460 government have to enact legislation that says, that says businesses can absolutely

00:21:11.300 accept religious liberties to deny service. And it's a simple, that is absolutely true. 1.00

00:21:16.800 Mississippi is the only state that has done that. Um, it's, it's a disgrace. Republicans have

00:21:22.320 control, super majorities in the state legislatures and like 20 States. I don't know what they're doing,

00:21:27.360 but also we need on a federal level, as I've been advocating, and this ties into immigration,

00:21:33.580 the lower courts are killing us. And the Supreme court is allowing that this stuff to stand.

00:21:39.040 We need to at least strip the lower courts of jurisdiction over these cases to force any 0.53

00:21:45.560 individual private business owner to violate his conscience.

00:21:49.220 Can we do that? Is there legal, is there legally binding precedent to strip the lower courts of

00:21:53.120 authority to decide over these cases? It's more than that. Congress created the lower courts. 0.98

00:21:58.240 They can break them. They can abolish them overnight. They could even strip most of the Supreme court's

00:22:03.040 jurisdiction. It's the subject of my book back here, stolen sovereignty. Um, it is the most,

00:22:08.860 actually Clarence Thomas recently said something about this. He said, Congress has the power to

00:22:15.460 strip the courts over jurisdiction, the same way they have the power to coin money or declare war.

00:22:20.580 Wow. Wow. So it's amazing that our members of Congress, when did Congress, when, when, when was

00:22:28.260 the period in time that Congress started establishing these lower courts and essentially allowed legislation

00:22:33.820 from the bench? Well, I mean, the lower courts, the existence of them in their proper form, not

00:22:39.300 overturning laws or overturning constitution, it was around pretty much since 1789. Although they

00:22:44.760 created, um, the latest one is the special appeals court in DC. That's what I'm talking about. I'm not

00:22:51.380 talking about 1982. And what's funny is these magistrates and these, these different little courts that most

00:22:57.300 Americans don't know about, or is what I'm talking about that seem to create these legal quagmires 0.97

00:23:01.780 that then result in legislation from the bench. So that's a relatively recent addition to the judicial

00:23:07.940 system, right? I was laughing last year, this special court of appeals overturned part of the VA

00:23:17.280 accountability act, um, that led to the firing of the head of the Phoenix VA, who is at the center of

00:23:24.240 that scandal was unbelievable. I was laughing because that entire court was created by Congress

00:23:30.300 in 1982. And the notion that somehow they could overturn a law of Congress is insane.

00:23:36.260 That is just, that is just ludicrous. All right. So we know what the solution now needs to be a 0.81

00:23:41.240 masterpiece. Look, I agree with you. I like legislative solutions far better than judicial ones,

00:23:46.900 because if you don't like it, vote for somebody else next time around. And with Congress coming up

00:23:51.480 every two years, it's a very easy remedy on the part of the people. Now let's talk about something.

00:23:56.900 You and I spoke about it offline. You're passionate about it. You were texting me about it last night.

00:24:01.280 Jailbreak. You're not a fan of what's going on with regards to the criminal justice system

00:24:06.400 in the white house. Sure. The president campaigned like Ronald Reagan on this issue. You know,

00:24:13.360 he was more emphatic than anyone that we have. We don't have enough people in prison in general on net.

00:24:19.700 There's, there's thousands of murderers, rapists, armed robbers, um, assault. I mean,

00:24:25.640 all this stuff that goes uncleared by law enforcement on net.

00:24:31.120 I'm going to be Daniel after, after our segment, I'm going to be talking about a Washington Post

00:24:34.900 report, 50,000 unsolved homicide, over 50,000 unsolved homicides, many in the same area. So

00:24:42.000 yeah. So believe me, it's on everybody. John, but, but the point, the reason why I'm starting

00:24:46.660 with this point is that the entire philosophy behind this effort, it's not just about Alice

00:24:52.700 Johnson or one person that's a straw man, like, you know, all this dreamer that served in the

00:24:58.120 military. So therefore we need to have open borders. I mean, you can have certain narratives and there's

00:25:02.120 what to say about her, what happened and what didn't happen and what it represents. But this is

00:25:06.520 not a jab, but just about a pardon. And I agree. I'm okay with the concept of pardons. It's that

00:25:11.760 legislatively, they want to uproot Reagan's entire legacy that led to two decades long decline in

00:25:19.760 crime. It worked inversely with the growth of the prison population. I got news for you. We're already

00:25:25.740 having jailbreak for 10 years. The, the incarceration rate per capita is down to 1993 levels. It erased the

00:25:33.760 entire baseline increase. And incidentally crime. The last two years is going up. We got to be careful

00:25:39.760 and balanced. Well, yeah, the FBI saw a dramatic increase in violent crimes, 2014, 2016, the 2017 UCR

00:25:47.860 will be out. Uniform crime reporting is going to be published usually late September, early October. So

00:25:52.780 very curious to see those numbers, but go back to Alice Marie Johnson, these pardons. I see these pardons

00:25:59.900 more thumbing his nose in Obama's face, Trump doing that than it is about criminal justice reform or any

00:26:05.680 ideology. Here he pardons an African-American grandmother who, uh, was a nonviolent drug 0.97

00:26:12.100 offender. Now I have issues with that because he was trafficking tons of cocaine directly with the

00:26:18.160 Colombian drug cartels. People around her were not nonviolent. So I've got issues, but isn't this

00:26:24.260 really saying, Hey Obama, you never pardoned the black grandmother? Hey Obama, you didn't pardon, uh, uh,

00:26:30.400 people that deserves it. Hey, George W. Bush, you went against me. You only commuted Scooter Libby. I

00:26:35.900 pardoned him. Isn't this just retaliation by Trump toward his enemies?

00:26:42.040 You know why? Maybe we should just raise taxes by 50% and say, look, we're more Democrat than you are or give

00:26:49.940 amnesty. Well, Obama, you never gave an official amnesty. I'll do amnesty better than you. We have

00:26:54.760 to look at things on principle. I mean, I'm not looking for a talking point. Hey, don't, don't,

00:26:58.500 don't say that. Don't say that too loudly. It might just happen. Well, they're actually doing that.

00:27:02.600 And Trump is getting roped into amnesty now too. What I mean by this is, is, is just broadly speaking

00:27:07.680 here. It's not too many people are only follow news when Kim Kardashian talks about it. But this thing,

00:27:14.680 I started writing about it before Trump is, is breaking his campaign promise because of Jared

00:27:20.140 and the people around him. And he's signing onto a much broader effort that is going to let go tens

00:27:27.520 of thousands of people earlier. Now, the fact that Obama went through the prison system with a fine

00:27:33.220 tooth comb and let go 1700 drug traffickers on the hardcore ones that had fell a gun felonies too. 0.67

00:27:40.300 Oh, I remember that. Yeah. Biker, biker gangs, trafficking meth, some of the, I dug into those 0.77

00:27:44.960 cases. These were bad guys. To me, the fact that the, the U S sentencing commission let go 46,000 over

00:27:52.760 the last 10 years and Obama let go specifically around 1700 drug traffickers and didn't let go this

00:27:58.680 person. That kind of tells me something. There's one thing your, your listeners need to understand.

00:28:04.000 You would know this from working in law enforcement. There's something called a pre-sentencing report.

00:28:09.440 Right. That is what the judge relies on. This gives the full picture why they did it,

00:28:15.400 their lifestyle. If it really was low level and they didn't do anything else wrong,

00:28:19.440 and it was just trying to get money. They were desperate at that time. They're not going to be

00:28:22.780 a threat. If that is true, they have the ability to unseal that document. And the media is being very

00:28:30.320 dishonest in general. When they come up with these sob stories, they're not verifying and they're not

00:28:35.640 saying, all right, if that's really true, release your pre-sentencing report, because that will show

00:28:41.020 this all. The reality is, look, you could always find. But Daniel, I'll even say you don't even need

00:28:45.660 it. When I saw the quantities of cocaine involved in her, in her sentence, she's dealing directly with 1.00

00:28:53.060 the suppliers. Like you said, the cartels, she was dealing with, with their lieutenants, brutal 0.60

00:28:58.240 murderers, these people on the streets. You know, this, this is not a mystery. The flip side is the

00:29:05.140 woman did 21 years. She was a first time offender given life without parole, did 21 years. Even the

00:29:11.040 warden of that federal facility gave her a glowing recommendation. So I guess the question is, if that

00:29:17.520 doesn't warrant a pardon, what does? So again, we don't have the full details. Why was she sentenced 0.99

00:29:23.820 to that to begin with? And again, I don't want to- I believe that's the mandatory minimum. That's the

00:29:28.620 mandatory minimum. But it's not- With that weight. It's not over, roughly 70% of people are escaping

00:29:35.820 the mandatories now. There's a lot of loopholes in them. And we have the fewest percentage getting the

00:29:41.700 mandatories as we ever had since the early 90s. That, that whole trend has been reversed. Yet this

00:29:47.560 person was always denied. She was convicted in 98. I'd love to know. 97. No, I know. But I'm saying

00:29:55.940 we're at the lowest rate. And I, I would like to know what exactly is the full story. Now I could

00:30:04.100 take you- No, I agree with you there as, as would I. All right, wait, we're going to go back to Alice

00:30:08.100 Brie Johnson, but Scooter Libby, did you agree with his pardon? Sure. I'm okay with pardons. What I'm not

00:30:15.580 okay is with carte blanche, broad statements that there are too many nonviolent people in federal

00:30:22.740 prison. Now you and I agree there. You and I agree there. You and I agree there.

00:30:26.200 State prison. Yeah, we agree there. But, but, but again, also you have to understand

00:30:32.300 the specifics of what is going on here. Let me, let me give you a perfect example of, of a case.

00:30:39.700 Jose Garcia Zarate, the murderer of Kate Steinle. We all know he murdered her. We all know that.

00:30:49.060 And that's very notorious, but picture a situation that didn't gain national attention. And he's a

00:30:54.300 random Joe Schmo that you never would have heard of. So what's happening to him now? He was acquitted.

00:31:00.260 Like many people that, you know, committed second degree murder, even first degree murder,

00:31:05.340 and they're acquitted for all sorts of loopholes. So what often will happen is the feds will come in

00:31:12.560 and be like, this guy needs to be locked up. So what is this guy being charged? Now the feds are

00:31:18.160 coming in and charging him on immigrant, on reentry charges and firearms charges, right? Let's say I come

00:31:24.780 retrospectively 20 years later. And I look at it like, come on, like firearms charges is sitting in

00:31:32.000 there. But if you would understand a full history there, the guy's really a murderer. There's a lot

00:31:37.920 of this in the federal prison where they're, they're, there's another step. You and I are on the

00:31:44.820 same page. And look, something the audience needs to know that statistically, you know, but I know it

00:31:49.560 both scientifically and anecdotally, about 70% of the cases we arrest in this nation are misdemeanors,

00:31:56.440 about 30% felony, give or take a few points. But of that, of the 30% of those felonies,

00:32:01.220 about 70% of those are pled out to misdemeanors to adjudicate them. And so Daniel, I speak from

00:32:07.360 experience. You know how many guys I arrested for a violent armed robbery that was pled down to a

00:32:11.900 misdemeanor assault or a, or a theft, a criminal possession of stolen property misdemeanor just to

00:32:18.460 get it off the docket, to get the guy a year in jail and to make the case go away. So you're a hundred

00:32:23.080 percent right on that. We need to know the facts of the arrest, the facts pre-charged, not even

00:32:29.580 pre-sentencing. I like to know the fact pattern of the arrest before I know anything else, because

00:32:34.820 that tells me more than anything that happened subsequently.

00:32:38.120 Exactly. You know, just two more points on that. There's a big problem with even a lot of our

00:32:43.320 colleagues, like, yeah, locking up people for drugs. Like what's the, okay, two things. First of all,

00:32:48.780 nobody is sitting in federal prison, not really state prison either for possession. That is just not

00:32:54.380 true. That's right. Nobody is. Nobody is. That's right. It's pled down. It's pled down to a felony

00:33:02.020 possession, but I would venture a guess. Even pled down, they're all out. There's, I have enough.

00:33:09.120 But that's what I'm saying. Even if it's on your record as a possession and you did jail time,

00:33:13.380 chances are you were trafficking and you took the plea for possession.

00:33:16.760 Yeah. Yeah. But nobody is currently sitting in federal prison for simple possession. There's

00:33:22.040 maybe about literally 20, 30 people who are, and they're illegal aliens. So they're in the federal

00:33:26.920 system just because of immigration, nothing to do with it. So they're drug traffickers and you know,

00:33:31.100 is inherent violence. And as we see, 70,000 people were killed last year, mainly from fentanyl,

00:33:38.820 heroin, meth, and cocaine. Okay. So this is not exactly, you know, everyone's talking about,

00:33:42.760 oh, the opioid crisis. Oh, well, gee, that's where it's coming from. But finally, there's,

00:33:49.720 there's a very important point to be made here. You, but you said the point, most of the time,

00:33:56.040 these are the same dudes doing other things, according to a massive study from the Bureau of

00:34:02.420 Justice Statistics. Yeah. Look, we know, we know, we know this going back to the nineties when I was on

00:34:06.900 the street, the broken windows policing theory. If you, if you arrest drug traffickers, right. And

00:34:12.320 if you arrest a guy for jumping a turnstile, you might clear three robbery warrants. Criminals are

00:34:16.700 criminals are criminals. They commit many types of crime. And the thing is, this is why we actualized

00:34:24.700 probably the best social trend in our lifetime, the miraculous decline in crime. It's because of

00:34:31.640 those drug laws that you guys hate, you know, out there in the media and politics, but it took the

00:34:37.680 bad guys off the street. Broken windows, broken windows and aggressive policing. Did you look,

00:34:43.340 if I've got to give Bill Clinton credit for anything, it was the millions upon millions he

00:34:48.300 appropriated for the safe streets, safe cities program that actually worked. It went to patrol

00:34:53.480 cars and weapons for cops and better training. There was a significant crime reduction by today's

00:34:59.540 standards. Bill Clinton would be a tea party Republican on crime. Oh yeah. And again,

00:35:04.420 it was all started with four or five pieces of legislation in Reagan's era. This was Reagan's,

00:35:10.360 one of his top three issues, legacy issues. He talked about it so passionately that we always

00:35:15.200 focus on the victim, on the criminal and not the victim. And, and, and the thing here is again,

00:35:19.940 very importantly that you retroactivity is toxic. You can't do that. There's one thing you say going

00:35:27.680 forward. You want to look at some things, but you can't just carte blanche retroactively take

00:35:32.420 people out. I'm okay with case by case pardons, but this is not what Congress is looking to do.

00:35:37.120 And what this jailbreak movement around Jared and Kardashian.

00:35:41.500 I agree with you. They want, yes, they want in mass release of prisoners and they, let's face it,

00:35:47.340 they want rights restoration so that they can take all these convicts that are going to vote Democrat, 0.55

00:35:52.200 put them back on the street and pick up a few million more democratic voters in Florida,

00:35:57.120 in Texas, and turn those states blue.

00:35:59.560 John, you just said the point. Concurrent with jailbreak is a movement in every state and

00:36:05.880 they're succeeding to have felons vote. And guess what? Where they're not succeeding,

00:36:09.900 like in your home state of Florida, the courts are doing it. 0.99

00:36:13.560 I know. Oh, believe me. We know.

00:36:16.480 We know.

00:36:16.860 They're making felons vote. And so my warning to conservatives and libertarians that are jumping

00:36:23.000 on this train, you better be very careful because you need a very balanced approach this. Because if

00:36:29.880 you don't put the brakes on this, this will be just as destructive as the amnesty agenda. All these

00:36:35.320 people are going to vote Democrat. And then finally, as far as the sympathy and compassion,

00:36:39.440 forget about drug trafficking. Let's talk about murderers. If I go through the prisons and take

00:36:46.180 people that were downright convicted for murder, especially once they're elderly and have been there

00:36:50.640 for a while and they find Jesus in prison, I could concoct a documentary and focus, especially if it's a 0.52

00:36:57.640 female. And I'm telling you, I'm with you on this. Very careful. I care about. Listen, I've always said

00:37:04.500 when it comes to murder, I care about the victims. That's it. And their families. If the victims and

00:37:10.500 their families want this person to rot in prison, they should rot in prison. And if the victims and

00:37:17.200 their families don't, and the person still hasn't served their sentence, they need to serve their

00:37:21.800 sentence. Murderers get no sympathy from me, nor to rapists, nor to child molesters. Zero. I will

00:37:28.300 never see the other side of the crime. I mean, the thing, the thing, John, also to understand is,

00:37:35.480 look, when it comes to these people, it's not just a matter of justice. There's also the deterrent.

00:37:41.540 That is why we, in other words, I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. Even murderers, there's a

00:37:47.300 certain number of them, especially once they get older. If you look at them, they're probably not

00:37:52.180 going to murder again. It'll be like, why do we need to spend so much money to lock them up? But if we

00:37:56.640 make that a policy retroactively, I'll keep doing that. It's going to lose its deterrent. And I'm

00:38:02.740 not just speculating. See, look. No, look, you're not speculating. Unfortunately, we're running out

00:38:07.460 of time. I could talk to you about it all day. We see them on, we see that on a micro level with

00:38:11.700 giving cops Narcan to administer to people that overdose. You've got medics and cops administering

00:38:18.680 Narcan to the same person twice in a shift. When you are permissive toward any type of nefarious

00:38:25.560 behavior, let alone crime, you're going to encourage people to continue to engage in that

00:38:31.460 behavior. They're going to see it as a get an jail free card.

00:38:35.060 Just one more point. You can't half-ass libertarianism. Okay? So, in other words,

00:38:41.560 if you're going to be libertarian to law enforcement, I say, oh, screw the drug laws. Let the markets work.

00:38:46.640 If they want to drink the poison, let them die. And then the next generation won't do it. Fine. 0.99

00:38:50.940 But then the problem is, I don't see any Koch brother libertarians with me fighting all these

00:38:56.480 nanny state healthcare programs and the treatments and the Narcan. We bring them back alive. I'm not 1.00

00:39:01.820 saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying. Hey, man, you are preaching to the choir. Daniel,

00:39:04.820 unfortunately, we're out of time. Daniel Horowitz, senior editor, conservative review,

00:39:08.160 always informative, always great to have you on the show, Daniel. Thanks.

00:39:12.480 Take care. God bless.

00:39:13.360 Very interesting story in the Washington Post today. The Post is profiling. It actually mapped

00:39:29.280 52,000 homicides and they found areas where murders are common, but arrests aren't. Now,

00:39:39.280 they talk about murders in cities from San Francisco to Omaha, Nebraska, to Kansas City,

00:39:46.140 to Boston. And in many of these cities, in similar neighborhoods, the arrest rates are very high.

00:39:54.620 In other areas, the arrest rates are low. These cases go unsolved. So they say the overall homicide

00:40:00.680 arrest rate in the 50 cities, the Post profiled, where they looked at 52,000 homicides is 49%.

00:40:06.540 But in these areas of impunity, police make arrests less than 33% of the time. Now,

00:40:14.780 despite a nationwide drop in violence to historic lows, 34 of the 50 cities have a lower homicide

00:40:21.120 arrest rate now than they did as a decade ago. Some cities, and this is very concerning when I tell

00:40:27.900 you the name of the cities, such as Baltimore and Chicago, two cities with the highest murder rates

00:40:33.080 in the country, they're definitely in the top five, solve so few homicides that vast areas,

00:40:38.920 excuse me, solve so few homicides that vast areas stretching for miles experience hundreds of

00:40:47.000 homicides with virtually no arrest. In other places, such as Atlanta, police manage to make arrests in a

00:40:53.480 majority of homicides, even those that occur in the city's most violent areas. Now, give you an example.

00:41:01.640 Baltimore and Chicago are cities with mostly low arrest areas. Atlanta and Richmond, Virginia,

00:41:06.760 when you look at, they did a heat map on this Post article, and I encourage you to read it. I'm

00:41:12.160 going to be tweeting out the link to the article as we tweet out parts of the segment. Cities with

00:41:19.180 mostly high arrest areas, like I said, include Atlanta, Richmond, Virginia. Then Phoenix and San

00:41:25.400 Antonio, it's scattered certain areas. And it's very interesting neighborhoods right next to one

00:41:31.860 another. One will have a high arrest pattern for homicide, one will have a very low arrest pattern

00:41:36.880 for homicide. But it goes on to say that police blame the failure to solve these homicides in these

00:41:45.740 places on insufficient resources and poor relationships with residents, especially in areas

00:41:50.780 that grapple with drug and gang activity, where potential witnesses fear retaliation.

00:41:56.960 But the families of those killed, and even some officers say the fault rests with apathetic

00:42:00.880 police departments, all agree that the unsolved killings perpetuate cycles of violence in low

00:42:06.000 arrest areas. And that's true. But I do have to agree. And I will, I've got to give credit where I do.

00:42:11.600 I slam the Washington Post enough. But when they do exposés like this, they're actually very good.

00:42:16.980 They're very good. This is a very solid piece of reporting here. Now, oftentimes, when you have a

00:42:24.360 gang-related homicide, it's very difficult to close. Because if the gangbanger is going to kill that guy

00:42:30.780 or that girl, they're very easily going to kill you if you're a witness and you testify. I understand

00:42:37.900 why the people in these neighborhoods don't want to cooperate. Retaliation is a great motivator to

00:42:44.700 keep your mouth shut and your eyes closed. Now, are there some apathetic departments? Yes. But for

00:42:51.000 the most part, big city departments aggressively pursue homicides because you want your case closure

00:42:56.180 rate to be high, right? Your crime stats look horrible if you have homicide upon homicide upon

00:43:03.860 homicide that's unsolved. Doesn't look good for you. You don't stay chief commissioner sheriff very

00:43:09.300 long in that scenario. So, again, my personal experience having worked on the street in the

00:43:16.040 Bronx is that if you're not going to solve it, it's typically because no one is coming forward to help

00:43:21.740 you. The best you can hope for is a CI, somebody that you arrest on on a charge that's going to, you 0.95

00:43:27.720 know, maybe result in long jail time. They knew on the street who committed the homicide. They give the

00:43:32.600 guy up in exchange for a lesser sentence. If you can't get that, though, solving these is very,

00:43:39.600 very difficult. Now, detectives say they can't solve homicides without community cooperation,

00:43:44.200 which makes it almost impossible to close cases in areas where residents are ready to trust the

00:43:48.580 police. As a result, distrust deepens and killers remain on the street with no deterrent. Quote,

00:43:55.340 if the cases go unsolved, it has the potential to send the message to our community that we don't

00:44:00.240 care, said Oakland police captain Roland Holmgren. He leads the department CID, the criminal

00:44:05.260 investigation division, and that city has two zones where unsolved homicides are clustered.

00:44:12.500 Now, homicide arrest rates vary widely when examined by the race of the victim.

00:44:16.760 An arrest was made in 63 percent of the killings of white victims compared with 48 percent of the

00:44:21.940 killings of Latino victims and 46 percent of the killings of black victims. Almost all of the low 0.86

00:44:26.760 arrest zones are home to primarily low-income black residents. Now, now, you would think that the

00:44:34.300 post is trying to say racism, racism, but they're not. Those are the numbers I've dug in. The reason is

00:44:39.140 homicides, homicide in general, is an intra-racial crime. Whites kill whites, blacks kill blacks, 1.00

00:44:47.100 Hispanic kill Hispanics, Asian kill Asians, et cetera. The white-on-white homicides are typically domestic. 1.00

00:44:53.580 They're typically the result of a bar fight or some non-criminal beef. The black-on-black and 0.98

00:45:03.120 Hispanic-on-Hispanic homicides, sure, they have their smattering of domestic. Those are the ones 0.97

00:45:07.620 that are typically solved, but the others tend to be drug-on-drug, gang-on-gang, things of that

00:45:13.580 nature. Much tougher to get a witness. A spouse kills a spouse. A lot of witnesses, the family of the

00:45:21.340 victim go to bat, they testify against the murderer. Those cases you can close, or there's a loud

00:45:28.040 domestic, or there's a loud argument, or it's road rage, and one guy shoots another guy, and 37 people

00:45:35.700 have the license plate as he pulls away. But when you're dealing with, and those are typically the

00:45:40.100 white-on-white arrests for murder. Now, there is crossover, but murder is typically an intra-racial

00:45:46.980 crime. The majority of the data points to that. Well, the data points to the majority of

00:45:52.080 murders being intra-racialized. But when you're dealing with the minority communities, the black 1.00

00:45:57.320 Hispanic community, the fear of retaliation is higher. The relationships with the police are worse. 0.52

00:46:02.020 It's true. So what's the answer? Well, the answer really is people in these neighborhoods are going

00:46:07.800 to have to step up. They're going to have to say, look, maybe we dislike the police, but let's reflect.

00:46:13.400 Maybe we haven't been all that cooperative with them. Maybe we haven't helped them do their job.

00:46:18.520 And maybe it's time for us to start doing that, because we can't have a nation with 52,000 homicides,

00:46:26.460 almost half of them, over half of them going unsolved when the murders of black and Hispanic,

00:46:33.060 and 40% of them, 37% of them going unsolved when the victims are white. These are unacceptable numbers, 0.75

00:46:39.340 and witnesses need to step up. And really, I encourage you to read this. Great piece,

00:46:44.260 really good reporting, very interesting subject matter from the coast.

00:46:47.280 I'm going to close out the show today with some good news about a spankdown of two vile leftist

00:47:05.260 women who happen to be on TV. Samantha Bee, who was reprehensible and disgusting in the way she spoke 1.00

00:47:12.540 about Ivanka Trump, is having her full creative control on her show, polled by TBS.

00:47:19.780 TBS management will reportedly have more scrutiny over Samantha Bee's show,

00:47:23.620 Full Frontal, after the firestorm over her use of a vile word to describe first daughter,

00:47:29.720 Ivanka Trump. According to The Hollywood Reporter, the plan entails management working with the show

00:47:34.200 to prevent another incident that could drive away advertisers and draw rebukes from both ends of

00:47:39.280 the political spectrum. Well, this was long overdue and a long time coming. What Samantha Bee did was 0.86

00:47:45.340 pretty much disgraceful and should never have happened. But hey, they can blame Bee all they

00:47:52.680 want over at TBS. The problem with that is, I know how the editorial process works. Samantha Bee didn't 0.78

00:47:59.340 just say that off the cuff. Producers knew about it. It was in her teleprompter. Editors knew about it.

00:48:04.580 Standards and policy people knew about it. Network lawyers knew about it. Samantha Bee knew about it.

00:48:09.720 Samantha Bee's agent manager and personal lawyer knew about it. All of these people most likely

00:48:14.020 knew about it. That's the editorial process. Samantha Bee went ahead with it anyway.

00:48:18.520 So I love that TBS is pulling back creative control and doing something, but it's complete nonsense.

00:48:24.560 There's many of those same executives that are going to now have input in that creative control.

00:48:28.280 Well, they were complicit in this. Even better, CNN contributor April Ryan was embarrassed for

00:48:38.420 putting out fake news. And it was actually another CNN reporter that called her out. And you know

00:48:42.520 April Ryan, she is this black activist parading around and masquerading as a reporter. She's 1.00

00:48:48.060 constantly disrupting the White House press briefings. When Sarah Huckabee Sanders calls on

00:48:52.660 her and gives her a question, April Ryan doesn't stop. She speaks over her colleagues.

00:48:56.520 She disrupts the press conference. It's led to some pretty tense exchanges between Ryan and Sarah

00:49:02.300 Huckabee Sanders. Well, the president held that event to honor troops in lieu of the Philadelphia

00:49:09.800 Eagles coming a couple of days back. April Ryan, there was a heckler in the crowd. You've probably

00:49:14.880 seen the video. The heckler insulted the president. The crowd booed the heckler. The president went on,

00:49:20.640 gave a speech. It was a nice event. April Ryan, though, tweeted, breaking reporters on the South

00:49:26.240 lawn have confirmed that real Donald Trump was heckled and booed when he came out to celebrate

00:49:30.740 America. The only problem is now April Ryan's a CNN contributor. Noah Gray from CNN promptly spanked 0.57

00:49:38.880 her down and said, this is not true. There was a protester who shouted at Trump and was booed.

00:49:46.700 He said after the anthem, this man shouted, stop hiding behind the armed services in the national anthem.

00:49:52.260 He was booed, then called a Cowboys fan. April Ryan, then tried to backtrack. She took her tweet 1.00

00:49:59.780 down. He then tweeted, she deleted the initial tweet and said with a new tweet, the original

00:50:04.820 breaking boo tweet was deleted as reporters on the South lawn who told of the booing and heckling did

00:50:09.860 not see all what happened on the other side of the lawn. After the tape was watched, the heckler was

00:50:14.440 booed, not Donald Trump. But April was lying again because no reporters reported what April did.

00:50:21.560 April was the only person in the United States of America that saw it as Trump being booed.

00:50:26.380 She was called out on Twitter by reporters, people, other people in the media, people on Twitter who

00:50:33.680 watched the video and who have eyes and ears. So once again, CNN commentator and political analyst

00:50:38.980 April Ryan caught in fake news. It's happening every five minutes, but it was a really good day, 0.94

00:50:44.720 really good day to see Samantha Bee and April Ryan both embarrassed for their moronic behavior and 0.91

00:50:52.700 keep on it because it's you tweeting, you Facebooking, you're catching them in this, 0.87

00:50:56.260 you're calling them the task. Keep on it. We need more of it and less of their fake news

00:51:00.780 and vile reprehensible comments.

Rebel News Podcast - June 07, 2018

Off The Cuff Declassified： Trouble for Comey, Unsolved homicides, & liberal media reined in

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