Rebel News Podcast - Omar Khadr： What happened after confronting this confessed, convicted Al-Qaida terrorist？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I go over the aftermath of my encounter with Omar Cotter

00:00:05.540 in Halifax's International Airport and what I saw later that night at Dalhousie University.

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00:00:21.720 Okay, here's the podcast.

00:00:30.000 Tonight, a day after my encounter with Omar Cotter, what's changed? It's February 11th,

00:00:45.040 and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

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00:01:01.560 bloody right to do so.

00:01:07.880 Welcome back. I am back in Toronto. I was in Halifax for less than 24 hours. I went there,

00:01:14.960 as you know, last night to see Omar Cotter give his first college speech. I'm terrified

00:01:21.560 of the prospect of an Al-Qaeda terrorist. And again, that's not my opinion. He's a confessed, 0.79

00:01:27.240 convicted member of Al-Qaeda, a war criminal, a murderer, giving a campus speaking tour. He was at

00:01:35.260 a prestigious university. Dalhousie, he was the honored guest of the Alumni Association and

00:01:42.800 Romeo Dallaire's foundation. Dallaire, a former liberal senator and Canadian general, actually

00:01:48.540 introduced Omar Cotter as a magnificent man. It was grotesque, especially that young college

00:01:56.380 students, and there were actually high school students as well, in the audience being told

00:02:01.720 that Omar Cotter was some sort of hero. I flew there, and as I told you yesterday,

00:02:07.620 I was startled to see Omar Cotter himself on the airplane, just a few rows in front of me. I

00:02:14.380 didn't see him as I came in because he ducked, but I saw him as we all left to go out. And I

00:02:20.220 accosted him in the airport. It's a video that's had almost 150,000 views in the 24 hours since I

00:02:27.780 uploaded it. Here, just refresh your memory.

00:02:32.540 Can I have a word? Can I talk to you for a minute?

00:02:37.420 Can you take a selfie together?

00:02:39.380 If you want.

00:02:41.020 Yeah.

00:02:41.660 Can I ask you a couple questions?

00:02:44.260 Can I ask, how did you get on the plane? I thought you were on the no-fly list.

00:02:47.820 This is exactly what we figured would happen. Why don't we go ahead and walk away from

00:02:51.180 But why don't you, why don't you, but how, but aren't you on the no-fly list?

00:02:57.220 Is there security?

00:02:58.820 For me or for him?

00:03:00.060 For filming a person when, when that's really not an okay thing to do.

00:03:03.280 Can I ask you why you won't let the, the widow have access to some of the money you got?

00:03:13.480 Excuse me, officer, he's harassing us.

00:03:15.040 He's not harassing anybody.

00:03:16.740 That's a convicted al-Qaeda terrorist right there who just flew on an airplane.

00:03:21.180 Okay, sir, well, he's entitled to do what?

00:03:24.980 He's entitled to leave the airport.

00:03:26.920 Yeah.

00:03:27.200 That's good, thanks.

00:03:29.440 Excuse me, sir.

00:03:30.820 Well, it's assault. Get your hands off me. 1.00

00:03:40.020 Why have you never renounced your father's terrorism?

00:03:42.900 I don't understand why this is allowed.

00:03:43.540 Why have you never renounced your father's terrorism?

00:03:45.280 Okay, just walk.

00:03:46.140 We need to go.

00:03:46.840 Because we're not under Sharia law.

00:03:48.740 Let's just walk to the park.

00:03:50.560 Come on.

00:03:51.180 Where have you stashed the rest of the money?

00:03:56.040 Why don't you feel an obligation to pay money to the widow whose husband you murdered and the two children?

00:04:02.040 This is an airport.

00:04:03.000 There's a public, public place.

00:04:04.760 Exactly.

00:04:04.900 That's why I'm filming.

00:04:05.680 Sir, I'm working for a move.

00:04:08.500 Sir.

00:04:11.380 What are you doing?

00:04:11.740 You're proximate.

00:04:12.340 She's touching me.

00:04:13.080 That's battery.

00:04:14.000 No, it's not.

00:04:14.860 Yes, it is, actually.

00:04:15.600 Sir, you go ahead.

00:04:16.240 My hands are...

00:04:17.060 That's a terrorist.

00:04:17.980 That's an al-Qaeda terrorist right there.

00:04:19.880 Sir.

00:04:20.140 Al-Qaeda terrorist.

00:04:21.760 It's an al-Qaeda terrorist right there.

00:04:24.100 Okay.

00:04:24.520 Al-Qaeda terrorist right there.

00:04:25.960 Okay.

00:04:26.460 Go ahead.

00:04:26.940 Just go on.

00:04:28.700 Okay, sir.

00:04:29.580 Yeah.

00:04:29.780 Sir?

00:04:30.140 Yeah.

00:04:30.640 Sir?

00:04:31.160 Yes.

00:04:32.700 Yes?

00:04:33.880 Why are you touching me?

00:04:34.560 You're impeding someone from leaving the building.

00:04:36.240 No, I'm not.

00:04:36.600 You're impeding me from leaving the building.

00:04:38.180 What's your name and badge number?

00:04:39.220 I'll give you my card, sir.

00:04:40.160 Okay?

00:04:40.280 Give it to me.

00:04:40.980 I will give it to you, sir.

00:04:59.580 You're very close to being arrested.

00:05:01.300 You understand me?

00:05:01.840 And you're very close to getting a civil lawsuit.

00:05:03.900 for assault and battery.

00:05:08.340 Don't jaywalk, sir.

00:05:12.900 Last walk back there, okay?

00:05:15.660 Am I clear?

00:05:20.760 Don't jaywalk. 0.99

00:05:23.220 What are you stepping on me for?

00:05:27.180 Doing your job, sir.

00:05:28.220 Doing your job.

00:05:28.860 And what job is that?

00:05:30.180 Keeping the public safe.

00:05:31.280 Whose safety was in breach there?

00:05:34.700 Everyone's safety, sir.

00:05:35.520 You're a goddamn liar, and you know it.

00:05:37.900 You're a disgrace to that badge, and you're a disgrace.

00:05:40.720 I'm proud of what I do, sir.

00:05:41.440 You're proud of defending a terrorist?

00:05:43.300 I'm proud of keeping people safe, sir.

00:05:45.160 Safe from whom?

00:05:46.020 I thought that was incredible, not just that Cotter was so brazen.

00:05:54.180 I mean, smiling, standing there, not a care in the world.

00:05:57.260 What did he care if I was asking him a few questions?

00:06:00.440 The guy's worth $10.5 million.

00:06:02.580 He's being invited to speak at university campuses, an honored guest, being called a magnificent man.

00:06:09.160 I'm the one being hustled away by police and threatened with arrest.

00:06:14.380 Wouldn't you be smiling from ear to ear if you were him?

00:06:17.700 The irony that I was threatened with a jaywalking arrest while someone who had just murdered an American was the guest of honor, given the key to the city.

00:06:28.420 I found that quite startling.

00:06:30.840 But again, my main purpose lay ahead.

00:06:33.620 I wanted to see what Omar Cotter would say.

00:06:35.960 I went to the event at Dalhousie, and I had paid in advance for the ticket.

00:06:42.560 I had received confirmation just really hours earlier that I was indeed admitted.

00:06:48.620 I paid my money.

00:06:49.520 Of course, I paid money to fly to Halifax to buy a hotel room for the night because of the hour of the event.

00:06:54.800 And when I approached, I was immediately targeted by a whack of campus security and Halifax police who said I couldn't come in.

00:07:07.200 I had a ticket.

00:07:07.900 I had flown in.

00:07:08.640 I was banned.

00:07:10.380 No reason at all other than, I suppose, I had the wrong opinions.

00:07:15.620 I argued with them for about 15 minutes.

00:07:19.140 Here's some lowlights of how that went.

00:07:21.440 Okay, I bought a ticket.

00:07:24.000 Not a problem.

00:07:24.720 Just wait and see.

00:07:25.740 Just wait one second.

00:07:26.720 We'll come in.

00:07:27.240 So there is a problem?

00:07:28.300 It's not a problem.

00:07:29.060 It's okay.

00:07:29.520 We'll just wait one second.

00:07:30.640 We'll just wait.

00:07:31.260 We'll have some people here come speak to you.

00:07:33.700 Well, I don't want to speak to them.

00:07:35.180 I want to go in.

00:07:36.320 Sure.

00:07:36.640 Not a problem.

00:07:37.160 Okay.

00:07:37.540 We've been asked to inform you that you're not welcome here tonight.

00:07:42.160 By whom?

00:07:42.740 I know the terrorist doesn't want me, but I'm not going to leave because I've done nothing

00:07:46.780 wrong.

00:07:47.160 I've paid for the ticket and I have not caused a disturbance.

00:07:51.300 I've not broken any rules.

00:07:53.080 And the fact that a terrorist might not want me here is not of interest to me.

00:07:58.360 Sir, are you going to ask him to leave?

00:08:00.100 I'm not leaving.

00:08:01.260 Are you refusing to leave?

00:08:03.480 Yeah.

00:08:03.880 What do you mean the university is not welcoming him?

00:08:10.440 I got an email from you as recently as yesterday saying it was fine.

00:08:13.920 Yes.

00:08:14.500 I understand that.

00:08:16.280 I think you're lying.

00:08:17.380 Who told you?

00:08:18.300 You're making this up.

00:08:19.660 No, I'm not making this up.

00:08:20.380 Well, show me your authority.

00:08:22.300 You don't speak for this event.

00:08:24.100 I want your names.

00:08:24.920 What's your name?

00:08:26.140 Why won't you tell me your name?

00:08:27.200 It's a little cowardly.

00:08:29.100 Are you running this event here today?

00:08:30.860 Yes.

00:08:31.200 So these guys say I'm kicked out and I say I have a written confirmation that I'm not

00:08:36.160 and I say I've done nothing wrong.

00:08:38.380 I'm well behaved as everyone knows.

00:08:40.460 I'm extremely polite as everyone knows.

00:08:42.620 And I even had a shower so I'm smelling fresh.

00:08:44.680 So why are you kicking me out?

00:08:45.800 Are you recording?

00:08:46.940 Yes, I am.

00:08:47.440 No, you shouldn't.

00:08:48.660 I'm recording a breach of contract.

00:08:50.160 You shouldn't.

00:08:50.340 So this is evidence.

00:08:51.660 I'm not going to record in there.

00:08:53.020 We may have to hand you over to the security to do that.

00:08:55.400 I'm right here.

00:08:56.040 I couldn't be closer if he was touching me.

00:08:58.200 I mean, we're practically bosom buddies.

00:08:59.520 He's about four inches taller than me, but now we're a spitting image.

00:09:03.980 I'm sort of embarrassed you're wearing those medals at an event with a guy who murdered allies.

00:09:09.700 I respect the fact that you earned those medals.

00:09:12.040 I find it bizarre that you would stand on guard for a terrorist war criminal al-Qaeda murderer.

00:09:18.140 I'm interested in getting in.

00:09:19.400 I'm happy to follow the rules.

00:09:21.760 But you've put me through ten minutes of embarrassment.

00:09:23.900 Sir, what do you want?

00:09:27.060 Would you like to go in, sir?

00:09:28.160 I would.

00:09:28.700 All right.

00:09:29.020 And will you let me in?

00:09:29.940 Yes.

00:09:30.400 All right.

00:09:30.720 Thank you.

00:09:32.320 I was intransigent.

00:09:33.760 I mean, really, at that point, I thought, if they're really going to arrest me and handcuff me, let that happen.

00:09:40.280 Let that be the message from Dalhousie, a place that literally arrests journalists, citizens with no criminal record at all.

00:09:50.380 I hadn't done it.

00:09:51.220 I had just walked in.

00:09:52.760 I hadn't caused a disturbance or anything.

00:09:54.980 And imagine if they had actually arrested me that night while giving an evening of honors to an al-Qaeda terrorist.

00:10:05.160 I presume that's what made them change at the last minute.

00:10:08.700 They really were counting on me to be submissive and walk myself out.

00:10:13.960 But I've decided I've had it with that.

00:10:16.920 I'd say I don't like butting heads with police.

00:10:19.080 I'd say I grew up in a family.

00:10:20.520 The police were regarded at the absolute top of the heap in terms of people you should respect, even people you should obey.

00:10:29.360 These days, I find both of those hard to do as police become increasingly political.

00:10:35.340 I want to say that when I was on the airplane, as I told you yesterday,

00:10:40.040 I talked to both the flight attendant and the co-pilot who genuinely seemed completely surprised by what I had revealed to them.

00:10:48.460 I was reached out to by Air Canada on Twitter who asked for more details and never got back to me once I sent them a quick note.

00:10:57.740 I think that Air Canada was a victim here, certainly not a perpetrator.

00:11:02.960 My theory, after talking to some others with some experience in government,

00:11:07.400 is that Justin Trudeau most likely took Omar Khadr off the no-fly list as part of a secret package of gifts to him,

00:11:18.440 in addition to the public ones we know about.

00:11:21.020 As you recall, a couple of years ago, Justin Trudeau gave Omar Khadr a $10.5 million check, a public apology.

00:11:28.540 He arranged the check to evade the family of Christopher Speer, the U.S. Army medic murdered by Khadr.

00:11:36.000 However, obviously there were other things that the public didn't learn about.

00:11:40.600 I suspect that taking Khadr off the no-fly list was one of them,

00:11:44.200 something that I'm not sure how Air Canada feels about,

00:11:47.220 either as a corporation or from a customer service point of view,

00:11:52.160 or even from the safety of their own staff, pilots and flight attendants.

00:11:56.860 Would you feel comfortable being a flight attendant knowing that an Al-Qaeda member,

00:12:01.000 not just a timid member, but someone who actually murdered, is flying on a plane?

00:12:07.280 And we were flying from Toronto to Halifax,

00:12:09.400 but I happen to know that Air Canada flies daily from Toronto to Tel Aviv.

00:12:14.420 That's a big airplane full of Jews. 1.00

00:12:17.020 That's a juicy target for an Al-Qaeda terrorist.

00:12:20.780 Would Omar Khadr simply be allowed to board that flight?

00:12:23.020 Of course, in Israel, he would be turned around and sent back.

00:12:27.460 But who led him on the plane?

00:12:29.840 Justin Trudeau, that's who.

00:12:31.780 I find it troubling that that would be the case.

00:12:34.840 And I hope that Air Canada takes steps.

00:12:37.140 I can tell you that in the last day, I've been in touch with some friends that I made

00:12:41.080 when I wrote my book about Omar Khadr called

00:12:42.980 The Enemy Within, Terror Lies and the Whitewashing of Omar Khadr.

00:12:46.700 And I made some friends in the Pentagon and in the United States,

00:12:49.540 and in fact, a friend close to the White House,

00:12:52.260 who were very interested in counterterrorism.

00:12:54.820 They were startled by the story.

00:12:57.840 And I can tell you that both the counterterrorism desk at the White House,

00:13:01.780 as well as the Pentagon, are now aware that Omar Khadr flew over U.S. airspace.

00:13:08.440 Here's a map of the route of Flight 608 that I was on with Omar Khadr yesterday.

00:13:14.040 As you can see, the geography of the border, the United States juts up.

00:13:19.680 I think that's the state of Vermont.

00:13:21.000 We flew across U.S. airspace for about an hour, by my estimate.

00:13:26.440 Not only is that against Omar Khadr's plea deal,

00:13:30.200 but again, what does al-Qaeda do on airplanes in New England?

00:13:35.480 I mean, God forbid, may it never happen.

00:13:37.380 I hate to even say the words.

00:13:38.580 But al-Qaeda especially, their horrific, macabre reputation and specialty, 0.99

00:13:44.600 is taking airplanes in New England and flying them into targets.

00:13:49.580 Why would Canada, and I'm not blaming Air Canada,

00:13:52.740 why would Canada, the country, Justin Trudeau, the prime minister,

00:13:55.980 permit Khadr to fly over U.S. airspace?

00:13:58.960 And how many times has he done so?

00:14:01.460 I mean, this is the first time I detected it,

00:14:04.460 but surely it's not the first time Khadr has flown.

00:14:07.380 He's been to Toronto before.

00:14:09.300 He's been around the country before.

00:14:12.220 How many times has he flown?

00:14:14.320 I find it deeply troubling.

00:14:16.760 I want to talk a little bit about

00:14:18.520 the reaction from other media to yesterday's events.

00:14:24.340 And by yesterday's events,

00:14:25.260 I mean my own accosting of Khadr in the airport

00:14:28.180 and the gala evening for Khadr itself.

00:14:32.500 First, in terms of the reaction by the public

00:14:35.500 that Omar Khadr is flying,

00:14:38.260 to me that's shocking news.

00:14:41.000 Would you like to get on a plane

00:14:42.180 and sit down next to a convicted, confessed al-Qaeda terrorist?

00:14:45.360 Would you feel comfortable?

00:14:46.940 I mean, forget about just him hijacking or blowing up the plane.

00:14:50.240 Would you feel comfortable to him being on the plane at all?

00:14:53.120 Well, Justin Trudeau doesn't have to fly

00:14:55.320 with a terrorist on his plane.

00:14:56.900 He flies on private jets.

00:14:59.060 Would you feel comfortable sitting down next to Omar Khadr?

00:15:02.760 Other than a few people chirping at me on Twitter,

00:15:05.800 I haven't seen a single news story

00:15:08.840 in the entire Canadian media party,

00:15:11.740 the entire legacy media,

00:15:13.660 about the fact that Omar Khadr is now flying on commercial planes.

00:15:17.960 Have you?

00:15:18.680 Maybe I missed it,

00:15:19.400 but I keep a pretty close eye on these things.

00:15:21.360 Not only do they not care,

00:15:23.920 if they care, they're thrilled about it.

00:15:27.300 They know they just better not mention it

00:15:28.780 because ordinary Canadians despise Omar Khadr, the murderer.

00:15:32.920 I should tell you that I've had a fair amount of interest

00:15:35.080 in the United States.

00:15:36.840 Today, for example,

00:15:37.640 I appeared on Glenn Beck's Blaze TV channel to talk about it,

00:15:41.180 and I have another media invitation later on.

00:15:43.840 The United States is more interested about this.

00:15:46.080 I saw a story in an Israeli newspaper

00:15:48.140 about a terrorist flying planes.

00:15:50.560 They find that madness in Israel and Canada. 0.85

00:15:53.980 Well, that's life under Trudeau.

00:15:56.520 There's one more thing I want to mention about the media.

00:15:59.380 Last night, Andrew Lawton from True North was at the same event,

00:16:03.320 and it was great to have an ally there.

00:16:05.600 I sat in the mass of the audience as a regular ticket holder.

00:16:10.920 Andrew Lawton came in as a journalist,

00:16:12.720 so he was in a media room.

00:16:14.440 I did not go into the media room.

00:16:16.840 He told me afterwards that there were several reporters there

00:16:20.280 who said, I ought to be arrested.

00:16:25.440 Andrew Lawton overheard them.

00:16:26.580 They were all in the little media room together.

00:16:28.040 He said there's about a half dozen reporters there.

00:16:29.600 I was just in the main crowd.

00:16:31.520 He didn't recognize them.

00:16:32.680 I later asked him, well, who were they?

00:16:33.880 He didn't know.

00:16:34.420 I suppose they were local Halifax journalists.

00:16:36.640 They didn't say that the terrorists,

00:16:38.500 oh, Mark Khadr should be arrested or imprisoned

00:16:40.520 or banned from flying.

00:16:42.620 Simply the fact that I was asking challenging questions,

00:16:47.720 that was worthy of being arrested.

00:16:50.080 That's what Andrew Lawton told me.

00:16:52.120 So I sat in the crowd, and there was a no-filming rule.

00:16:56.600 And there was nothing so dramatic.

00:16:58.740 There was nothing hidden there that I wanted to film

00:17:01.260 in contravention of the no-filming rule.

00:17:03.500 And they did announce at the top of the event

00:17:06.360 that they would be recording it and publishing it.

00:17:09.100 And it'll be interesting to see if they keep their word.

00:17:11.340 I must tell you that listening to the whole event,

00:17:15.440 really nothing was said of interest by Omar Khadr.

00:17:19.380 His answers were vague, sometimes cryptic,

00:17:22.500 always self-serving.

00:17:24.980 But he really says very little.

00:17:27.340 And I think it's a clever tactic,

00:17:29.220 because anyone who asks him a loving, gushing, loaded question,

00:17:34.100 loaded in a good way for him,

00:17:35.480 he sort of answers in a fog

00:17:38.400 that the question asker can project onto Omar Khadr

00:17:43.040 whatever they want.

00:17:44.200 In fact, thinking about it,

00:17:45.360 since Khadr has been out of prison,

00:17:47.760 we actually haven't heard that many meaningful things

00:17:50.500 from his own mouth.

00:17:52.220 One of the ways he's been rehabilitated

00:17:54.120 in the court of media opinion,

00:17:56.400 not public opinion,

00:17:57.680 the public still hates him,

00:17:58.740 but the media party,

00:17:59.700 the court party,

00:18:01.260 fancy society like Dalhousa University's elite,

00:18:05.420 is that all these do-gooders,

00:18:07.560 these social workers,

00:18:08.800 these noble people,

00:18:10.540 noble in their own mind,

00:18:11.480 ask a question to Omar Khadr.

00:18:13.780 He gives sort of a foggy answer,

00:18:15.440 and they say,

00:18:15.920 ah, yes, he agrees with me.

00:18:18.400 And so it's all these do-gooders

00:18:19.980 projecting themselves upon Khadr,

00:18:22.260 and Khadr is saying very little.

00:18:23.860 He said,

00:18:24.460 really nothing of note last night.

00:18:26.580 I probably would have broken their no-videoing ban

00:18:30.240 had he said something spicy,

00:18:32.300 but he didn't really.

00:18:34.640 The real performance art

00:18:35.960 was the other people running the event

00:18:40.720 who were emoting.

00:18:43.140 I want to tell you an observation

00:18:44.240 I made about the crowd.

00:18:46.680 I didn't quite understand it at first,

00:18:48.640 but I felt like I was on the set of The View

00:18:52.600 or another daytime TV show,

00:18:55.400 even though it was nighttime.

00:18:57.400 I estimate that about three-quarters

00:18:59.480 of the people in the room

00:19:01.120 were women, 0.89

00:19:04.140 white liberal women, 0.85

00:19:05.360 between the ages of 35 and 55.

00:19:08.260 It was quite pronounced.

00:19:10.420 I mean, you would think

00:19:11.020 that the subjects of terrorism

00:19:12.380 and war and crime,

00:19:14.980 justice and foreign relations

00:19:16.720 in Afghanistan,

00:19:18.540 you would think that would be

00:19:19.540 a masculine thing,

00:19:20.520 and indeed there were men there,

00:19:21.660 and I saw some men,

00:19:22.880 Halifax being a military city,

00:19:24.280 wearing their ribbons.

00:19:25.940 But most of the people there

00:19:27.300 were sort of moms,

00:19:30.100 wine, aunts maybe,

00:19:32.160 but it was quite gripping

00:19:34.900 to watch them watch Cotter.

00:19:38.920 I know this sounds odd,

00:19:40.180 but there were hundreds of people there,

00:19:41.920 and so it wasn't just one or two.

00:19:43.300 There were dozens of these moms 1.00

00:19:46.360 who I have to say

00:19:48.640 they reminded me

00:19:49.760 of women who fall in love

00:19:52.280 with serial killers,

00:19:54.960 become their pen pals,

00:19:56.560 meet them in prison,

00:19:57.780 and literally marry serial killers 1.00

00:20:00.420 who are in prison.

00:20:01.880 It's a psychological phenomenon.

00:20:03.340 You can look it up

00:20:03.960 in any psychological journal.

00:20:07.500 Partly it's these women 1.00

00:20:09.180 believing that they can heal

00:20:11.060 a broken soul.

00:20:13.080 Oh, Charles Manson,

00:20:14.080 he's just broken.

00:20:14.860 He just needs someone

00:20:15.560 to love him and fix him.

00:20:16.960 Oh, Omar Cotter,

00:20:17.760 he's been broken.

00:20:18.640 I can love him and fix it.

00:20:20.280 So some of it

00:20:20.900 is that maternal instinct

00:20:22.020 to heal and protect and fix.

00:20:24.220 I have to say with others

00:20:25.780 it clearly was a sort of romantic lust.

00:20:29.160 It was a strange,

00:20:30.560 strange room to be in,

00:20:32.500 and the woman who epitomized this 0.99

00:20:35.020 was the emcee of the whole event

00:20:36.860 who was having an emotional moment

00:20:38.680 on the stage and said so.

00:20:40.700 Said it was one of the most

00:20:41.720 remarkable evenings of her life.

00:20:44.580 It was not.

00:20:45.660 But for her, it was everything.

00:20:47.280 It was her moral satisfaction.

00:20:49.620 It was pretty gross to me.

00:20:52.900 I thought it was interesting

00:20:55.800 that Omar Cotter knew how to work it.

00:20:59.820 Let me close on this.

00:21:01.720 The event was officially styled

00:21:04.120 as a talk about child soldiers.

00:21:07.300 That's why Romeo Dallaire started off.

00:21:09.360 And I acknowledge

00:21:10.040 that there is a phenomenon

00:21:11.180 of child soldiers.

00:21:12.900 I'm talking about kids

00:21:13.800 eight or nine years old

00:21:15.340 who are sometimes put on

00:21:17.980 mind-altering drugs,

00:21:20.120 sent out with a rifle

00:21:21.200 and told to shoot,

00:21:22.680 and do so with no capacity at all.

00:21:26.280 Complete puppets of adults

00:21:28.780 who send them into war.

00:21:29.660 I acknowledge that

00:21:31.160 that phenomenon exists.

00:21:32.700 And there was one other guest

00:21:33.800 last night, Ishmael Beah,

00:21:35.380 who probably fits that definition.

00:21:38.140 And I understand that

00:21:39.340 that is a particular problem,

00:21:40.660 especially in places like Africa.

00:21:43.240 Child soldiers.

00:21:44.360 And it's a particular phenomenon.

00:21:45.780 And if a child is of 10 years,

00:21:48.420 eight, nine, 10 years old,

00:21:49.960 if they're hepped up on drugs

00:21:51.960 and they're sent in

00:21:52.540 almost like suicide killers,

00:21:54.320 I understand that that child

00:21:56.080 is a victim as well as a murderer.

00:21:58.880 Omar Cotter was not

00:22:00.040 eight, nine, 10 years old.

00:22:01.940 He was a few weeks shy

00:22:03.280 of his 16th birthday.

00:22:05.980 He was completely mature

00:22:07.420 and knew what he was doing.

00:22:08.580 I should remind you

00:22:09.380 that when Omar Cotter

00:22:11.180 was finally captured,

00:22:13.080 he was in a bunker

00:22:14.280 in Afghanistan.

00:22:16.180 And the Americans

00:22:17.560 and their Afghan translators

00:22:19.060 and their local allies

00:22:20.160 called to the bunker

00:22:21.520 and said,

00:22:21.960 we are going to attack

00:22:23.100 the bunker now.

00:22:24.380 All women and children

00:22:25.540 can go free.

00:22:27.560 And indeed,

00:22:28.120 the women and children

00:22:28.820 fled the bunker.

00:22:31.680 Not Omar Cotter.

00:22:33.160 He chose to stay

00:22:34.380 with the men

00:22:35.100 because he was a man.

00:22:37.420 A few weeks shy of 16

00:22:38.660 is a man

00:22:39.160 by any and every

00:22:40.380 legal definition.

00:22:42.120 Omar Cotter

00:22:42.820 has gained the system.

00:22:45.300 There was so much love

00:22:46.320 and affection

00:22:46.880 and healing femininity 1.00

00:22:49.020 in that room.

00:22:50.640 Properly targeted

00:22:51.840 at genuine child soldiers

00:22:53.440 like Ishmael Beah

00:22:54.540 that Omar Cotter

00:22:56.140 has simply conned

00:22:57.300 and gamed.

00:22:59.120 The same way 0.72

00:22:59.800 he has gamed

00:23:00.540 the legal system,

00:23:02.740 gamed Trudeau's

00:23:03.820 naivete

00:23:04.520 and Islamophilia

00:23:05.820 and pocketed

00:23:06.840 $10.5 million

00:23:07.760 and even gamed

00:23:09.660 the system

00:23:10.200 at the airport.

00:23:10.880 I'm being harassed.

00:23:12.100 Officer,

00:23:12.780 he's harassing me.

00:23:14.460 He knew what buttons

00:23:15.180 to push.

00:23:16.740 What I saw yesterday

00:23:18.220 troubled me deeply.

00:23:21.000 The reaction to it

00:23:22.440 troubled me even more.

00:23:24.600 The fact that the media

00:23:25.500 wanted me arrested, 0.61

00:23:26.700 not Cotter.

00:23:27.660 The fact that the entire

00:23:28.860 media party

00:23:29.500 is silent on the fact

00:23:30.460 that Cotter

00:23:30.880 is flying passenger planes.

00:23:32.780 And as usual,

00:23:33.660 if anything's going to stop it,

00:23:35.280 it'll probably be

00:23:35.940 our American allies.

00:23:37.620 I know why Omar Cotter

00:23:39.120 was smiling

00:23:39.860 from ear to ear yesterday.

00:23:42.420 Don't you?

00:23:43.880 Stay with us for more.

00:23:57.140 Welcome back.

00:23:58.500 Well, Justin Trudeau

00:23:59.580 is already on his

00:24:01.020 third trip

00:24:02.320 or vacation

00:24:03.440 for 2020.

00:24:05.420 That's quite a feat.

00:24:06.780 He's in Africa 1.00

00:24:07.960 hanging out

00:24:09.040 with the president

00:24:09.840 of the Toronto Raptors

00:24:11.960 and Ahmed Hassan,

00:24:14.320 his Somali-Canadian

00:24:15.760 cabinet minister.

00:24:17.540 He's making no bones

00:24:19.120 about it.

00:24:19.640 He's on a bribery tour

00:24:21.280 giving millions

00:24:22.180 of dollars

00:24:22.780 in foreign aid

00:24:24.320 to some of the most

00:24:25.340 corrupt dictators

00:24:26.120 in the world

00:24:26.560 in return

00:24:27.220 for their vote

00:24:28.500 at the United Nations.

00:24:30.180 Canada is running

00:24:31.100 for a seat

00:24:32.040 on the United Nations

00:24:33.300 Security Council.

00:24:34.600 This is very important

00:24:35.720 to a narcissist

00:24:36.440 like Justin Trudeau.

00:24:37.640 Less important

00:24:38.920 to Trudeau

00:24:39.420 are things like,

00:24:40.120 oh,

00:24:40.540 managing the

00:24:41.400 coronavirus outbreak

00:24:42.880 or dealing

00:24:44.460 with real issues

00:24:45.780 like pipeline

00:24:46.700 construction.

00:24:47.740 And in Alberta,

00:24:49.500 the Tech Oil Sands

00:24:51.620 Mine,

00:24:52.120 a $21 billion

00:24:54.480 project

00:24:55.520 of private sector

00:24:57.140 money

00:24:57.380 that has already

00:24:58.100 received every

00:24:59.220 environmental

00:24:59.860 and Aboriginal

00:25:00.980 approval necessary,

00:25:02.560 it's just waiting

00:25:03.380 for his own pen.

00:25:04.100 And let me connect

00:25:05.420 the two.

00:25:06.680 Scroll for a second

00:25:07.700 through Justin Trudeau's

00:25:09.020 Twitter feed.

00:25:10.900 There he meets

00:25:11.560 with the head

00:25:12.560 of Somalia.

00:25:13.520 There with the head

00:25:14.380 of Cabo Verde.

00:25:15.840 Have you ever heard

00:25:16.780 of Cape Verde,

00:25:17.700 it's also called?

00:25:18.820 I looked it up.

00:25:19.760 Canada and Cape Verde

00:25:21.540 have annual

00:25:23.160 bilateral trade

00:25:24.720 of $2.5 million.

00:25:28.140 That's it.

00:25:29.280 For the whole year.

00:25:30.400 Trudeau's trip there

00:25:31.220 alone probably

00:25:32.640 boosted that

00:25:33.600 by 20%.

00:25:34.540 Imagine spending

00:25:36.420 time and effort

00:25:37.440 trying to grow

00:25:38.620 a $2.5 million

00:25:40.100 a year trade

00:25:40.980 relationship

00:25:41.540 to what?

00:25:42.840 $2.6 million.

00:25:44.140 That would be

00:25:44.460 a success.

00:25:45.580 Instead of

00:25:46.160 saying yes

00:25:47.260 to a $21 billion

00:25:48.920 private sector

00:25:49.940 jobs project.

00:25:50.700 And more than that,

00:25:51.560 look at his

00:25:52.160 absolute warm

00:25:54.320 smiles and

00:25:55.520 handshakes

00:25:56.140 with every

00:25:57.300 tin pot

00:25:58.020 dictator

00:25:58.600 in Africa.

00:26:00.120 When was

00:26:00.680 the last time

00:26:01.420 you saw

00:26:02.080 Justin Trudeau

00:26:03.000 express such

00:26:03.860 genuine affection

00:26:05.400 towards the

00:26:06.680 premiers of

00:26:07.620 Alberta

00:26:08.120 or Saskatchewan?

00:26:09.800 He won't even

00:26:10.380 meet with them

00:26:11.000 and shake a hand

00:26:11.740 in a photo

00:26:12.300 like that,

00:26:13.320 let alone say

00:26:14.080 we must increase

00:26:14.940 trade.

00:26:15.320 I show you

00:26:15.980 all that

00:26:16.440 because it's

00:26:17.800 a good way

00:26:18.220 to introduce

00:26:18.720 our next guest,

00:26:20.160 our friend

00:26:20.460 Lauren Gunter,

00:26:21.140 senior columnist

00:26:22.020 with the Edmonton Sun

00:26:22.980 who has a new

00:26:23.580 column out,

00:26:24.680 and I recommend

00:26:25.180 that you read it.

00:26:25.940 It's called

00:26:26.260 Ottawa Faction,

00:26:27.960 appears to be

00:26:28.600 readying

00:26:29.160 green jobs

00:26:30.720 retraining

00:26:31.380 rather than

00:26:31.860 approved

00:26:32.180 Frontier mine.

00:26:33.080 And Lauren Gunter

00:26:33.760 joins us now.

00:26:35.660 Lauren Trudeau's

00:26:36.540 celebrating an

00:26:37.840 extra $100,000

00:26:39.520 worth of trade

00:26:40.540 here and there

00:26:41.180 on a trip

00:26:42.200 that costs

00:26:42.760 more than that

00:26:43.480 while he looks

00:26:44.820 ready to kill

00:26:45.620 the Tech Frontier

00:26:46.740 oil sands mine.

00:26:49.380 Well,

00:26:49.700 I'm not sure

00:26:50.920 they're ready yet,

00:26:51.620 but they would

00:26:52.040 really like to

00:26:53.060 if they think

00:26:54.120 they could.

00:26:54.560 There are,

00:26:55.860 I'm told,

00:26:56.460 two factions

00:26:57.100 within the

00:26:57.620 cabinet.

00:26:58.700 About two-thirds

00:27:00.000 of the cabinet,

00:27:00.820 most of them

00:27:01.380 coming from

00:27:01.940 Ontario and

00:27:02.800 some from

00:27:03.540 Quebec,

00:27:04.420 would like to

00:27:05.080 kill Tech. 0.97

00:27:06.520 Others realize

00:27:07.920 that, A,

00:27:08.920 the federal

00:27:09.340 government needs

00:27:09.920 the money

00:27:10.340 that's going

00:27:10.740 to come out

00:27:11.320 of the taxes

00:27:12.680 on Tech,

00:27:13.840 but also,

00:27:15.020 if they reject

00:27:16.120 Tech,

00:27:17.040 there's no

00:27:17.720 predicting what

00:27:18.980 Albertan's reaction

00:27:20.340 is going to be.

00:27:20.980 I mean,

00:27:21.160 my prediction

00:27:21.680 is that

00:27:22.320 separatist

00:27:23.220 sentiment in the

00:27:23.840 province will

00:27:24.300 skyrocket.

00:27:26.060 Tech is,

00:27:27.100 Tech's frontier

00:27:27.800 mine is,

00:27:29.260 as you said,

00:27:29.700 $21 billion.

00:27:31.080 It's 7,000

00:27:32.780 jobs.

00:27:34.000 It's $12

00:27:34.660 billion a year

00:27:36.560 to the

00:27:37.360 Alberta economy.

00:27:38.460 It's $8 billion,

00:27:40.060 $8 billion

00:27:40.760 with a B,

00:27:42.000 to private

00:27:44.220 incomes,

00:27:45.460 to family

00:27:46.560 incomes in

00:27:47.400 Alberta.

00:27:48.900 And then

00:27:49.420 there's this

00:27:49.840 huge ripple

00:27:50.540 effect,

00:27:51.080 about 20%

00:27:52.420 of the amount

00:27:53.700 that will be

00:27:54.200 generated in

00:27:54.960 jobs and

00:27:55.580 income,

00:27:56.240 will be

00:27:56.720 outside of

00:27:57.440 Alberta.

00:27:57.880 And it's

00:27:58.160 long-lasting.

00:27:59.000 It's a 40-year

00:27:59.560 project,

00:28:00.200 and those

00:28:00.540 jobs in

00:28:01.560 Ontario making

00:28:02.540 pipe,

00:28:03.280 and in

00:28:04.260 BC supplying

00:28:05.960 electronics,

00:28:09.560 those will all

00:28:10.880 last for the

00:28:11.940 duration that the

00:28:12.800 mine is open.

00:28:13.660 So it's a good

00:28:15.240 deal for the

00:28:15.860 entire country.

00:28:17.560 Not only that,

00:28:18.480 I mean,

00:28:18.620 the entire country

00:28:19.200 should be worried

00:28:19.920 if the liberals

00:28:20.660 turn it down,

00:28:21.280 because people

00:28:22.700 outside the

00:28:23.480 energy sector,

00:28:25.020 international

00:28:25.520 investors in

00:28:26.560 other sectors

00:28:27.480 are going to

00:28:27.880 say,

00:28:28.560 gee,

00:28:28.780 I don't know

00:28:29.240 if I really

00:28:29.640 want to put

00:28:30.020 my money

00:28:30.520 into Quebec,

00:28:32.120 into New

00:28:32.520 Brunswick,

00:28:33.000 into Nova Scotia,

00:28:34.100 when the

00:28:34.980 federal government

00:28:35.780 in Canada

00:28:37.240 is prepared

00:28:38.240 to ignore

00:28:39.660 all of the

00:28:40.360 expert advice,

00:28:41.260 ignore all

00:28:41.760 of its

00:28:41.980 regulators' 0.84

00:28:43.100 decisions on

00:28:43.900 whether or not

00:28:44.460 to license

00:28:45.660 developments like

00:28:46.780 this,

00:28:47.200 and just go

00:28:48.020 based solely

00:28:48.920 on its own

00:28:49.960 political benefits

00:28:53.260 to whether or

00:28:54.260 not they will

00:28:54.700 license this.

00:28:55.380 It's just so

00:28:56.260 capricious.

00:28:58.000 It's so

00:28:59.340 transient that

00:29:01.280 a lot of

00:29:02.700 international

00:29:03.540 investors outside

00:29:04.680 the energy sector

00:29:05.560 are simply going

00:29:06.180 to say,

00:29:07.060 it's not worth

00:29:07.840 risking it in

00:29:08.560 Canada.

00:29:09.280 Yeah.

00:29:09.600 I mean,

00:29:10.080 this is $21

00:29:10.920 billion of

00:29:12.200 private sector

00:29:12.960 money.

00:29:13.420 It's not from

00:29:14.780 the government.

00:29:15.600 A lot of it

00:29:16.140 will actually

00:29:16.520 flow to

00:29:17.240 the government.

00:29:18.380 So it's not

00:29:19.200 even Trudeau's

00:29:20.240 money.

00:29:21.680 And as I

00:29:22.860 mentioned at

00:29:23.400 the outset,

00:29:23.840 it's already

00:29:24.200 met every

00:29:25.140 possible

00:29:25.760 environmental

00:29:26.360 safety,

00:29:27.320 aboriginal 0.61

00:29:27.760 approval to

00:29:29.400 kill it out

00:29:30.360 of pure

00:29:30.940 political

00:29:31.540 spite.

00:29:32.320 I noticed

00:29:32.740 that the

00:29:33.080 new heritage

00:29:34.020 minister,

00:29:34.460 the guy who's

00:29:34.820 talking about

00:29:35.320 licensing and

00:29:36.060 registering

00:29:36.460 websites,

00:29:37.560 he said to

00:29:38.180 reporters today

00:29:38.920 that he's so

00:29:39.960 embarrassed that

00:29:41.000 they're even

00:29:41.380 considering Tech

00:29:42.880 Frontier,

00:29:43.360 he's not even

00:29:43.820 going to talk

00:29:44.280 about it in

00:29:44.740 public.

00:29:45.040 Obviously he's

00:29:46.260 one of the

00:29:46.680 ones fomenting

00:29:47.540 against it.

00:29:48.680 It's just

00:29:49.240 incredible the

00:29:50.240 lengths that

00:29:50.780 Justin Trudeau

00:29:51.540 would go to

00:29:52.020 break the

00:29:52.420 law.

00:29:52.680 Remember he

00:29:53.060 was convicted

00:29:53.700 of breaking

00:29:54.140 the law,

00:29:55.160 the Conflict

00:29:56.080 of Interest

00:29:56.420 Act,

00:29:56.860 over SNC

00:29:58.460 Lavalin,

00:29:59.100 which nominally

00:29:59.940 was to save

00:30:00.760 some engineering

00:30:01.360 jobs in

00:30:02.020 Quebec.

00:30:02.560 Those jobs 0.65

00:30:03.040 haven't gone

00:30:03.420 away,

00:30:03.700 by the way,

00:30:04.000 the whole

00:30:04.180 thing was a

00:30:04.560 fib.

00:30:05.340 But he

00:30:05.880 would go to

00:30:06.480 great lengths

00:30:07.360 for 9,000

00:30:08.440 jobs in Quebec

00:30:09.280 that were not

00:30:09.860 in jeopardy,

00:30:10.580 but he would

00:30:11.520 whimsically and

00:30:12.400 capriciously kill

00:30:13.740 7,000 direct

00:30:15.780 jobs,

00:30:17.200 countless

00:30:17.600 indirect jobs

00:30:18.640 just to be

00:30:20.700 cool with

00:30:21.400 Gerald Butts

00:30:22.060 and the rest

00:30:22.460 of his

00:30:22.680 environmental

00:30:23.100 experience.

00:30:23.840 And to get

00:30:24.300 Greta to

00:30:24.940 send him a

00:30:26.560 nice card

00:30:27.260 at Christmas

00:30:27.740 time or

00:30:28.260 something.

00:30:30.120 I've come to

00:30:31.180 call the

00:30:31.660 Liberal Cabinet

00:30:32.460 the Greta cult

00:30:33.620 because they

00:30:35.600 seem to pay

00:30:37.540 far more

00:30:38.080 attention to

00:30:38.620 what a

00:30:38.860 16-year-old

00:30:39.680 Swedish

00:30:40.740 activist

00:30:41.220 thinks than

00:30:42.020 what Canadians

00:30:42.700 think.

00:30:44.600 They're so

00:30:45.460 caught up in

00:30:46.200 what they

00:30:46.900 call the

00:30:47.360 settled

00:30:47.720 science of

00:30:49.320 climate change

00:30:50.680 that they

00:30:50.940 don't look at

00:30:51.440 any other

00:30:52.040 alternative.

00:30:53.120 And we

00:30:53.460 have become,

00:30:54.300 I think,

00:30:54.880 the only

00:30:55.500 country in

00:30:56.100 the world

00:30:56.580 that is

00:30:57.640 really trying

00:30:59.020 hard to

00:31:00.660 beggar its

00:31:01.220 own economy,

00:31:02.080 to slow

00:31:02.860 its own

00:31:03.260 economy in

00:31:04.480 the name

00:31:04.860 of meeting

00:31:05.340 our Paris

00:31:06.400 Climate Accord

00:31:07.520 emissions

00:31:08.480 targets.

00:31:09.500 The Norwegians

00:31:10.600 aren't doing

00:31:11.120 that with

00:31:11.620 their North

00:31:12.080 Sea oil.

00:31:13.160 The Danes

00:31:14.020 who have

00:31:14.480 wind turbines

00:31:15.940 everywhere on

00:31:16.740 their west

00:31:17.540 coast, they're

00:31:18.560 not doing

00:31:19.140 that.

00:31:19.900 Nobody's

00:31:20.320 trying to

00:31:20.700 shut down

00:31:21.420 parts of

00:31:22.000 their economy

00:31:22.720 just to

00:31:23.720 make Greta 0.99

00:31:24.280 happy or

00:31:25.000 to make

00:31:25.740 the activists

00:31:26.400 happy.

00:31:28.400 And we

00:31:29.120 are.

00:31:30.240 And this

00:31:30.680 is the sort

00:31:31.060 of thing

00:31:31.300 that we did

00:31:31.700 with Kyoto

00:31:32.240 too.

00:31:32.540 When the

00:31:33.380 Kyoto Accord

00:31:33.880 was signed

00:31:34.340 in 1997,

00:31:35.280 the first

00:31:35.580 really big

00:31:36.100 international

00:31:36.680 climate change

00:31:37.540 accord,

00:31:38.540 there were

00:31:38.840 38 countries

00:31:39.900 that were

00:31:40.640 signatories to

00:31:41.760 the emissions

00:31:42.460 controls.

00:31:43.660 Most of the

00:31:44.180 developing world

00:31:44.940 was exempted.

00:31:46.360 Of those

00:31:46.920 38 countries,

00:31:48.280 it ended up

00:31:48.880 we were the

00:31:49.660 only country

00:31:51.300 that was

00:31:52.500 prepared to

00:31:53.100 submit itself

00:31:54.120 to legal

00:31:55.500 challenges of

00:31:56.420 its emissions

00:31:57.080 laws by

00:31:59.200 its own

00:31:59.560 citizens and

00:32:00.200 by foreign

00:32:00.780 citizens.

00:32:01.260 we have

00:32:02.460 done this

00:32:02.900 Boy Scout

00:32:03.460 Act again

00:32:04.140 and again

00:32:04.620 and again

00:32:05.060 and it's

00:32:05.540 beginning to

00:32:06.280 really hurt

00:32:07.420 economically in

00:32:09.060 Canada.

00:32:09.300 And I think

00:32:09.820 the tech

00:32:10.200 resources

00:32:11.360 rejection,

00:32:12.640 if it comes,

00:32:13.860 will be

00:32:14.360 probably the

00:32:16.500 final straw.

00:32:17.160 I have to

00:32:18.340 give Jean 0.99

00:32:18.760 Chrétien credit.

00:32:20.120 He signed

00:32:21.160 an insane

00:32:21.920 reduction

00:32:23.560 number at

00:32:24.660 the Kyoto

00:32:25.000 Protocol,

00:32:25.660 but he

00:32:26.240 actually never

00:32:26.980 really acted

00:32:27.920 on that.

00:32:28.420 In fact,

00:32:28.940 I think it's

00:32:29.640 fair to say

00:32:30.280 that his

00:32:30.780 government

00:32:31.260 helped put

00:32:32.520 the regulatory

00:32:33.260 regime in

00:32:34.180 place to

00:32:35.260 allow the

00:32:37.260 growth and

00:32:38.540 acceleration of

00:32:39.640 the oil sands.

00:32:40.200 it's very

00:32:41.640 unlike me to

00:32:43.000 praise a

00:32:43.540 liberal,

00:32:44.340 especially at

00:32:44.880 the time I

00:32:45.440 was working

00:32:45.780 with Preston

00:32:46.280 Manning,

00:32:46.540 we were

00:32:46.740 fighting against

00:32:47.640 Jean Chrétien

00:32:48.540 every day,

00:32:49.160 but if I

00:32:50.520 look back at

00:32:51.180 it, how

00:32:51.500 can I say

00:32:52.160 anything other

00:32:52.740 than far

00:32:53.840 from opposing

00:32:54.540 the oil

00:32:54.980 sands?

00:32:56.060 Chrétien,

00:32:56.860 I'd almost

00:32:57.860 say encouraged

00:32:58.620 them.

00:32:59.300 I mean, I

00:32:59.560 don't want to

00:33:00.120 go too far

00:33:00.660 on that,

00:33:01.380 but he

00:33:01.580 didn't stop

00:33:02.400 a carbon

00:33:02.780 tax on

00:33:03.280 them,

00:33:03.460 he didn't

00:33:03.820 badmouth

00:33:04.440 them,

00:33:04.620 he didn't

00:33:04.960 demonize

00:33:05.600 them.

00:33:06.420 No, and

00:33:06.900 the thing

00:33:07.140 about Chrétien

00:33:07.720 and the

00:33:08.600 economic

00:33:09.200 ministers,

00:33:09.900 like the

00:33:10.180 finance

00:33:10.560 minister,

00:33:11.000 industry

00:33:11.260 minister,

00:33:11.800 natural

00:33:12.040 resources

00:33:12.420 minister,

00:33:13.080 in his

00:33:13.460 cabinet,

00:33:13.860 they were

00:33:14.160 grown-ups.

00:33:15.620 And what

00:33:16.580 a grown-up's

00:33:17.220 attitude would

00:33:18.120 be towards

00:33:18.940 Canadian

00:33:19.520 energy is

00:33:21.140 that we

00:33:22.020 produce energy

00:33:23.060 more

00:33:23.900 environmentally

00:33:24.940 efficiently

00:33:25.800 than any

00:33:27.040 other large

00:33:27.600 producer.

00:33:28.080 There's a

00:33:28.400 group at

00:33:29.240 Yale University

00:33:30.260 that looks

00:33:30.840 at the

00:33:31.480 environmental

00:33:31.940 records of

00:33:32.700 all the

00:33:33.120 countries in

00:33:33.580 the world,

00:33:33.920 and of the

00:33:34.320 top 10

00:33:35.080 oil producers,

00:33:36.660 Canada has 0.52

00:33:37.240 the number

00:33:37.980 one

00:33:38.420 environmental

00:33:38.920 record.

00:33:40.100 So we

00:33:40.960 are good

00:33:41.700 at producing

00:33:43.540 oil and

00:33:44.300 gas in

00:33:45.280 environmentally

00:33:46.140 intelligent

00:33:47.160 ways.

00:33:48.860 And that

00:33:49.880 means then

00:33:50.480 that when

00:33:50.840 we sell

00:33:51.420 our oil

00:33:51.840 or gas

00:33:52.360 to other

00:33:53.040 countries,

00:33:53.580 we're probably

00:33:54.860 bringing down

00:33:55.700 emissions,

00:33:56.260 because we

00:33:56.700 produce fewer

00:33:57.540 emissions to

00:33:58.160 get that

00:33:58.580 energy out

00:33:59.120 of the

00:33:59.360 ground and

00:33:59.860 down pipelines

00:34:01.080 and across

00:34:01.620 the ocean

00:34:02.120 than any

00:34:03.220 other major

00:34:03.880 producer.

00:34:05.140 And that's

00:34:05.600 just on the

00:34:05.980 environmental

00:34:06.360 side.

00:34:06.800 I remember

00:34:07.640 when I wrote

00:34:08.120 my book

00:34:08.480 Ethical

00:34:08.840 Oil, I

00:34:10.000 did the

00:34:10.300 math, it

00:34:10.660 was a

00:34:10.960 really

00:34:11.180 grotesque

00:34:11.940 calculation,

00:34:12.700 but I

00:34:12.860 wanted to

00:34:13.200 make the

00:34:13.480 point.

00:34:14.100 I don't

00:34:14.280 know if

00:34:14.880 you know,

00:34:16.380 but Sudan

00:34:16.900 is quite

00:34:18.240 an oil

00:34:18.560 producer.

00:34:19.500 In fact,

00:34:20.960 it's pretty

00:34:22.440 much all

00:34:22.880 run by

00:34:23.440 state oil

00:34:25.200 companies now

00:34:25.960 because of

00:34:26.460 sanctions and

00:34:27.100 whatnot.

00:34:27.700 But there

00:34:28.040 was a

00:34:28.300 point in

00:34:28.640 time when

00:34:28.900 a Canadian

00:34:29.260 company called

00:34:29.820 Talisman

00:34:30.580 Energy had

00:34:31.800 a big stake

00:34:32.420 in there.

00:34:32.760 They were

00:34:32.920 sort of

00:34:33.180 driven out

00:34:33.880 by boycotts

00:34:35.880 and funny

00:34:36.780 enough, the

00:34:37.080 boycotts

00:34:37.520 stopped once

00:34:38.200 the only

00:34:38.720 Western company

00:34:39.860 left.

00:34:41.340 One of the

00:34:41.860 reasons Sudan

00:34:42.600 is under

00:34:44.240 sanctions and

00:34:44.980 whatnot is they

00:34:45.820 had a genocide

00:34:46.580 in a region

00:34:47.800 called Darfur.

00:34:48.840 So here's what

00:34:49.620 I did, and I

00:34:50.140 don't mean to be

00:34:50.800 gross, Lorne,

00:34:51.800 but you talked

00:34:52.540 about carbon

00:34:53.020 dioxide and

00:34:53.960 environment.

00:34:55.300 What about

00:34:55.820 blood oil?

00:34:56.920 There really is

00:34:57.880 blood oil out

00:34:59.180 there, blood for

00:34:59.780 oil.

00:35:00.000 What I did

00:35:00.860 is I took

00:35:01.180 the number

00:35:01.500 of people

00:35:01.900 murdered in

00:35:03.220 the genocide

00:35:04.000 of Darfur.

00:35:05.240 I know that's

00:35:05.760 gross.

00:35:07.020 Calculated the

00:35:07.640 amount of

00:35:08.060 blood per

00:35:09.280 human body

00:35:09.940 times, I

00:35:10.600 think it was

00:35:10.820 400,000 people

00:35:11.800 killed, divided

00:35:14.300 into the number

00:35:16.400 of barrels of

00:35:17.180 oil produced

00:35:18.080 by Sudan over

00:35:19.180 that period of

00:35:19.840 time, and you

00:35:20.800 could get a

00:35:21.220 measurement, and

00:35:21.740 I know this is

00:35:22.300 gross, of human

00:35:24.400 blood per barrel

00:35:25.340 of oil, and it

00:35:25.940 worked out to

00:35:26.440 about a lipstick

00:35:28.100 tube full of

00:35:29.200 human oil

00:35:29.900 per barrel if

00:35:30.860 you were into

00:35:31.300 gross math, and

00:35:32.520 my point about

00:35:33.680 saying that gross

00:35:34.820 calculation, which

00:35:36.420 is unthinkable and

00:35:37.640 grotesque, is

00:35:39.240 that's how it is

00:35:40.400 in the oil

00:35:42.980 dictatorships of

00:35:43.800 the world, and

00:35:44.820 so, yeah, our

00:35:46.140 oil has a few

00:35:46.880 puffs of CO2

00:35:48.540 less than

00:35:49.780 Venezuelan oil,

00:35:50.780 let's say, but

00:35:51.800 we also have less

00:35:52.680 blood in our

00:35:54.500 oil, and less

00:35:55.680 terrorism, and

00:35:59.080 less stoning of

00:36:00.320 gays, and

00:36:01.020 things, that's the

00:36:01.640 whole thesis of

00:36:02.260 ethical oil, but

00:36:04.240 I don't think, I

00:36:06.220 don't think the

00:36:06.680 liberals actually

00:36:07.200 care about that, as

00:36:08.240 my point is, here's

00:36:09.020 Justin Trudeau

00:36:09.700 traipsing through

00:36:10.580 the dictatorships of

00:36:11.480 Africa, he's not 1.00

00:36:12.540 wagging his finger

00:36:13.180 at them.

00:36:14.420 No, no, but the

00:36:15.900 point I was, I was

00:36:17.400 making is that, you

00:36:18.540 know, say, say 10

00:36:20.000 units of whatever

00:36:21.100 per barrel of our

00:36:23.120 oil, and the

00:36:24.580 worldwide average is

00:36:25.680 14 units.

00:36:27.440 If you shutter, if

00:36:29.100 you keep in the

00:36:29.880 ground a barrel of

00:36:31.900 Canadian oil, it's

00:36:32.780 going to be sold to

00:36:34.140 another country by

00:36:36.340 yet a different

00:36:37.480 producer.

00:36:38.660 So, instead of 10

00:36:40.040 units of emissions,

00:36:41.640 now that other

00:36:42.740 country is buying

00:36:43.860 oil that had 14

00:36:45.160 units of emissions,

00:36:46.220 and if your whole

00:36:47.080 purpose, as the

00:36:48.660 liberals say, is to

00:36:49.960 reduce greenhouse

00:36:51.300 gas emissions, by

00:36:53.320 shuttering Canadian 0.98

00:36:54.540 oil, you're

00:36:55.480 actually increasing

00:36:56.760 the number of

00:36:57.620 emissions, because

00:36:58.780 the oil in other

00:37:00.400 countries is going to

00:37:01.200 come from less

00:37:02.400 environmentally efficient

00:37:03.740 sources.

00:37:04.860 It is such

00:37:05.960 preposterously

00:37:06.960 juvenile.

00:37:07.740 The federal

00:37:09.480 cabinet must be an

00:37:10.520 awful lot like a

00:37:11.980 sophomore political

00:37:12.900 science seminar, where

00:37:14.460 you sit around a

00:37:15.420 table, and you

00:37:16.340 discuss the high-minded

00:37:18.120 ideological ideas that

00:37:19.860 you've been reading

00:37:20.480 about in your

00:37:21.080 textbooks, and you

00:37:22.520 just sigh a lot, and

00:37:23.920 you put your hand to

00:37:25.500 the back of your

00:37:26.160 forehead, and you

00:37:28.680 swoon and tweet, and

00:37:30.500 it's just such a

00:37:32.620 juvenile mentality.

00:37:33.960 You know, I can

00:37:34.500 imagine it being like a

00:37:35.520 meeting full of

00:37:36.340 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's.

00:37:39.340 Everyone's saying,

00:37:40.440 well, I remember I read

00:37:41.740 an article once in Vox

00:37:43.400 about this, or as a

00:37:46.060 woman of color, my

00:37:48.220 view is this.

00:37:49.080 Like, it's just a

00:37:49.840 woke Olympics, and

00:37:51.960 no one's ever had a

00:37:53.280 job, never, no one's

00:37:54.540 ever done anything.

00:37:56.560 I think, I mean, I get

00:37:58.400 your point absolutely.

00:37:59.700 Every barrel of ethical

00:38:00.920 oil produced displaces

00:38:02.980 one barrel of conflict

00:38:04.180 oil.

00:38:04.400 That's exactly, I think

00:38:05.420 we were making the same

00:38:06.080 point.

00:38:06.660 But the bigger point is

00:38:08.220 Northern Gateway also

00:38:11.300 had Aboriginal

00:38:12.020 environmental approval.

00:38:13.060 Trudeau killed it.

00:38:14.500 Energy East, he rigged

00:38:16.300 the rules, and he killed

00:38:17.340 it.

00:38:17.600 Trans Mountain, he 0.99

00:38:19.640 killed it.

00:38:20.160 He claims it's alive,

00:38:21.840 but it's on life

00:38:22.420 support.

00:38:22.920 It's not being built.

00:38:23.880 I don't think it ever

00:38:24.600 will be.

00:38:26.600 You throw in one more

00:38:28.200 thing that's already

00:38:29.840 approved, and no one's

00:38:30.880 going to believe you

00:38:31.400 anymore, and then I

00:38:33.100 think you're going to

00:38:33.860 see a capital flight,

00:38:35.960 and I think politically

00:38:37.340 people are saying,

00:38:38.160 well, we're done.

00:38:40.000 I think you're exactly

00:38:41.320 right.

00:38:41.600 The only question is,

00:38:42.380 will Jason Kenney

00:38:43.240 still keep writing his

00:38:45.460 letters to Justin

00:38:47.880 Trudeau saying,

00:38:48.520 please stop being so

00:38:50.540 mean to us.

00:38:51.220 There has to be an

00:38:51.860 or else, or those

00:38:52.800 letters don't go

00:38:53.980 anywhere.

00:38:54.720 Well, and as I said

00:38:55.820 in the column that

00:38:56.480 you prefaced at the

00:38:57.380 beginning, we are

00:39:01.360 being thrown crumbs

00:39:02.700 in Alberta.

00:39:04.160 There was a story last

00:39:05.380 week came out from

00:39:06.340 Reuters, and there

00:39:07.500 have been follow-up

00:39:08.340 stories in other

00:39:09.660 outlets where it's

00:39:12.080 clear the Liberals are

00:39:13.260 raising a couple of

00:39:14.520 flags to see if we

00:39:16.400 will salute them.

00:39:17.200 We in Alberta will

00:39:18.040 salute them.

00:39:19.200 The idea is that,

00:39:20.440 well, you know, if we

00:39:21.500 were to reject

00:39:22.800 tech's frontier

00:39:26.000 mind, but we

00:39:27.660 were going to give

00:39:28.320 you a billion

00:39:29.600 dollars a year

00:39:31.520 for equalization,

00:39:33.800 job training,

00:39:35.040 and business

00:39:36.240 startups, green

00:39:37.400 business startups,

00:39:39.380 would that

00:39:39.880 satisfy you?

00:39:40.680 And I'm just

00:39:42.620 absolutely, I

00:39:43.680 think, I hope, I'm

00:39:45.780 fairly typical of

00:39:46.700 Albertans, I'm

00:39:47.560 absolutely enraged

00:39:49.520 and insulted by

00:39:50.720 that.

00:39:51.380 Just get out of

00:39:53.960 the way.

00:39:54.740 Just let us do what

00:39:56.580 we do well.

00:39:57.420 We will do it as

00:39:58.160 environmentally friendly

00:39:59.440 as possible, and we

00:40:01.900 will bring in a lot of

00:40:03.580 money for the entire

00:40:04.680 country.

00:40:05.900 This is not rocket

00:40:08.020 surgery.

00:40:08.500 You do not have to

00:40:10.120 have several degrees

00:40:11.280 in order to figure

00:40:12.160 this out.

00:40:13.060 It's quite

00:40:13.800 straightforward.

00:40:15.000 We don't want

00:40:16.120 bribes, we don't 1.00

00:40:17.300 want buyouts, we

00:40:18.380 don't want payoffs.

00:40:19.800 We simply want the

00:40:21.260 federal government to

00:40:22.200 do what makes sense,

00:40:24.000 and what makes sense

00:40:25.180 is to allow Tech

00:40:26.700 Frontier and

00:40:27.660 Trans Mountain and

00:40:28.780 Energy East and a lot

00:40:30.140 of those others to go

00:40:30.980 ahead.

00:40:31.280 You know, there's got

00:40:35.000 to be some grown-up

00:40:36.400 somewhere in the

00:40:38.340 government.

00:40:38.840 I mean, whoever had

00:40:39.780 the wisdom to move

00:40:40.680 Catherine McKenna out

00:40:41.600 of the environment,

00:40:42.460 that's a sign of some

00:40:43.500 maturity somewhere.

00:40:45.800 Jonathan Wilkinson,

00:40:46.880 the new environment

00:40:47.420 minister, is less

00:40:48.560 rhetorically crazy, but

00:40:50.320 he is equally

00:40:51.300 intellectually bad. 0.58

00:40:53.480 I was researching him

00:40:55.100 a bit today, and at

00:40:55.780 least he has some

00:40:56.900 business experience.

00:40:58.520 Rhodes Scholar, so

00:41:00.200 he's not as stupid

00:41:01.100 as Catherine McKenna.

00:41:02.420 Ran a business for

00:41:03.480 some years, so he's

00:41:04.260 not as inexperienced.

00:41:06.320 I have a flicker of

00:41:07.540 hope with him, but I've

00:41:08.840 got to think that there

00:41:09.980 is a grown-up, and the

00:41:11.700 grown-ups, I don't know

00:41:12.860 who it is.

00:41:13.300 It's certainly not

00:41:13.820 Justin Trudeau.

00:41:14.520 It's not Gerald Butts,

00:41:15.340 who despises Alberta.

00:41:16.680 I don't know who this

00:41:17.580 mystery grown-up is.

00:41:18.500 Maybe I'm just wishing

00:41:20.300 that such a person

00:41:21.100 existed.

00:41:22.720 But I think one of two

00:41:23.860 things is going to

00:41:24.480 happen.

00:41:25.020 Either they're going to

00:41:26.420 approve this

00:41:28.340 mine, and do the

00:41:30.420 right thing, and it'll

00:41:31.180 be a tremendous

00:41:31.900 relief to Alberta

00:41:33.560 and the markets.

00:41:35.000 Or they're going to

00:41:36.140 deliberately kill it, 0.78

00:41:38.140 and not just for

00:41:40.540 Greta reasons, but

00:41:42.420 because they want an

00:41:44.760 angry separatist

00:41:46.460 Alberta as a

00:41:47.600 political foil.

00:41:49.120 Justin Trudeau almost

00:41:50.460 lost the last

00:41:52.080 election.

00:41:53.220 The conservatives

00:41:53.840 were sort of a

00:41:54.700 disgruntled Western

00:41:56.180 rump.

00:41:56.900 They got some seats

00:41:57.560 in Ontario, but

00:41:58.320 not that many.

00:41:59.600 Wouldn't Trudeau like

00:42:00.780 to run in the year

00:42:02.840 2023 against angry

00:42:06.180 separatists in the

00:42:07.620 West, who he would

00:42:08.320 never get their votes

00:42:09.080 anyways, and he could

00:42:10.960 be the green savior

00:42:12.280 saying, I reject their

00:42:13.780 extremism and their

00:42:15.480 separatism, sort of

00:42:16.920 like Pierre Trudeau

00:42:18.620 loved fighting with

00:42:20.740 Quebec separatists and

00:42:21.860 stoked the separatism

00:42:23.020 that he then presented

00:42:24.360 himself as a solution

00:42:25.360 to.

00:42:25.680 Maybe the diabolical

00:42:27.820 strategy by the

00:42:28.900 grown-up here,

00:42:30.060 Lorne, is to

00:42:31.440 demonize and bait 0.89

00:42:34.460 the Alberta bear on

00:42:35.980 purpose.

00:42:37.180 So maybe it's not just

00:42:38.200 a goofy Greta, oh, 0.95

00:42:39.600 teehee, this is good

00:42:40.760 for the environment.

00:42:41.420 Maybe it's diabolical

00:42:42.620 that they want an

00:42:43.860 Alberta separatist

00:42:44.720 movement to run

00:42:46.520 against in 2023.

00:42:47.520 Yeah, I'm not sure

00:42:50.660 that they're that

00:42:51.280 clever, but I think

00:42:53.640 that doesn't bother

00:42:54.520 them.

00:42:54.860 I mean, I'm sure

00:42:55.540 that that scenario

00:42:57.880 has been put to

00:42:58.980 them by some of

00:43:01.160 their strategists, by

00:43:01.940 some of the cabinet

00:43:02.620 ministers, and the

00:43:04.000 response has been,

00:43:05.160 yeah, so, you know,

00:43:07.040 I think they would be

00:43:08.860 quite happy to have

00:43:10.740 that happen.

00:43:11.420 I'm not quite sure

00:43:12.720 that they're clever

00:43:14.060 enough to make that

00:43:15.400 their goal, but

00:43:17.640 that's certainly

00:43:18.840 him.

00:43:19.060 I think we're

00:43:20.120 getting set up for

00:43:21.160 an announcement

00:43:22.100 sometime, maybe not

00:43:24.220 soon, but maybe this

00:43:25.200 year sometime, that

00:43:26.500 Trans Mountain won't 1.00

00:43:27.200 go ahead.

00:43:27.660 You notice that the

00:43:28.820 feds let it be known

00:43:31.140 that the price of the

00:43:32.480 pipeline has almost

00:43:33.460 doubled since they

00:43:34.520 bought it, largely

00:43:36.080 because of all of the

00:43:37.500 delays that they have

00:43:38.800 allowed to happen.

00:43:40.340 And I think they're

00:43:41.720 going to, you know,

00:43:43.020 they're going to say

00:43:43.600 to voters in the

00:43:45.260 Lower Mainland and

00:43:46.040 BC, Quebec, and

00:43:47.100 Ontario, where they

00:43:47.820 don't really care

00:43:48.960 about pipelines anyway.

00:43:50.640 Well, we don't want

00:43:52.140 you as taxpayers to be

00:43:53.500 on the hook for this

00:43:54.300 very expensive project.

00:43:56.480 And so, to save you,

00:43:58.460 we're going to kill it.

00:44:00.320 At which point, you

00:44:01.620 know, you're going to

00:44:02.960 have to redraw the

00:44:03.680 map of Canada.

00:44:04.440 I really do think

00:44:05.560 that that's a serious,

00:44:07.820 serious possibility.

00:44:09.900 Well, these are

00:44:10.920 dangerous days, that's

00:44:11.880 for sure.

00:44:12.320 Lauren Gunter, it's

00:44:12.860 great to have you,

00:44:13.720 as always, on the

00:44:15.240 show.

00:44:15.480 Thanks very much

00:44:16.020 for your time.

00:44:17.400 You bet.

00:44:18.060 All right, there you

00:44:18.600 have it.

00:44:18.940 Lauren's column in the 0.51

00:44:20.200 Edmonton Sun is called

00:44:21.340 Ottawa Faction, appears

00:44:23.920 to be readying green

00:44:25.120 jobs retraining rather

00:44:26.380 than approved frontier

00:44:27.500 mine.

00:44:28.240 A terrifying lead.

00:44:29.720 Stay with us, more

00:44:30.460 ahead on the level.

00:44:31.320 Well, tomorrow I'll get

00:44:41.860 back to regular shows.

00:44:43.540 I just, my head is still

00:44:44.780 reeling by the absurd and

00:44:46.980 bizarre encounter I had

00:44:48.540 yesterday.

00:44:49.040 I was flying to Halifax,

00:44:51.120 thinking I would see

00:44:52.600 Omar Khadr on the stage

00:44:53.680 only.

00:44:54.380 Not thinking he would be

00:44:55.340 on the same plane as me,

00:44:56.400 just a few rows ahead.

00:44:57.400 I probably could have

00:44:59.240 predicted that the media

00:45:00.280 party would completely

00:45:01.240 ignore it.

00:45:01.840 They love the fact that

00:45:02.820 Khadr's flying around.

00:45:04.580 They would like to sit

00:45:05.480 next to him.

00:45:07.500 Until next time, on behalf

00:45:09.120 of all of us here at

00:45:09.960 Rebel World Headquarters,

00:45:10.900 to you at home, good

00:45:11.880 night, and keep fighting

00:45:13.480 for freedom.

00:45:13.960 and keep fighting for

00:45:14.620 fire.

00:45:25.740 Check out.

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Rebel News Podcast - February 12, 2020

Omar Khadr： What happened after confronting this confessed, convicted Al-Qaida terrorist？

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