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One of Trudeau’s Syrian migrants is charged with murdering a B.C. girl


Summary

A 13-year-old girl named Marissa Shen was found murdered in a park in Burnaby, B.C., just across from her family home. Her body was found the next day, and a suspect has been charged with first-degree murder.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Tonight, one of Trudeau's Syrian migrants is charged with the murder of a B.C. girl.
00:00:05.560 But look what the C.B.C. says.
00:00:08.580 It's September 12th, and you're watching The Ezra LeVance Show.
00:00:16.780 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:20.580 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:24.280 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
00:00:27.280 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:38.220 It's a horrific crime.
00:00:40.640 A beautiful 13-year-old girl named Marissa Shen was found murdered in a park in Burnaby, B.C., just across from her family home.
00:00:49.700 Her parents reported her missing late that night, and her body was found the next day.
00:00:54.720 This was back in July of 2017.
00:00:57.280 The police investigation was massive, truly an enormous undertaking.
00:01:01.860 Police watched more than 1,000 hours of video footage.
00:01:06.500 They identified 2,000 persons of interest.
00:01:09.960 They interviewed 600 people.
00:01:13.380 I've literally never heard of a larger police investigation in my life.
00:01:17.280 Have you?
00:01:17.560 And they charged Ibrahim Ali, 28 years old, with first-degree murder.
00:01:25.780 Now, I should tell you, that's a different Ibrahim Ali than the 27-year-old gang member who was convicted of killing another beautiful young girl named Emily Sheen a couple of years ago in the greater Vancouver area.
00:01:39.100 By the way, the 27-year-old Ibrahim Ali, who migrated to Vancouver from Turkey, he was sentenced to just four and a half years for that killing.
00:01:48.820 That's what the CBC headline says, but that's sort of fake news because he was given credit for almost half a year for time service, so he's out of jail already.
00:01:59.120 Oh, and I didn't mention he had been sentenced just a few years before that for participating in a home invasion robbery.
00:02:08.500 He got a sentence for that, too, but because we live in Trudeau's Canada, he was let out early for that, too.
00:02:14.300 And then, of course, he went on to kill while he was let out early.
00:02:17.000 So, that's the Ibrahim Ali who came from Turkey to kill in Vancouver, but the news this week is about the Ibrahim Ali who came from Syria to kill in Vancouver, at least if the police accusation is upheld by a court.
00:02:34.440 But Ibrahim Ali, this week's accused killer, he's not just from Syria.
00:02:39.340 He was recruited and brought to Canada from Syria as one of Trudeau's Syrian refugees.
00:02:44.400 In fact, he arrived in Canada only a few months before he allegedly murdered Marissa Shen.
00:02:50.900 Now, stop right there.
00:02:51.980 Of course, Ibrahim Ali is not truly a Syrian refugee, as you know.
00:02:56.240 Canada actually didn't take refugees from Syria.
00:02:59.180 We took them from three neighboring countries, Lebanon, Turkey, and Jordan.
00:03:03.520 So, the people we took were no longer in jeopardy.
00:03:05.720 They were no longer at high risk or any risk, actually.
00:03:09.500 They no longer met the UN definition of a refugee because refugees must make a refugee application in the first safe country they moved to.
00:03:16.860 They can't shop around.
00:03:19.280 And as you may know, most of the people taken by Canada already lived in apartments, had jobs.
00:03:25.020 They were doing well enough in Beirut or Amman until Justin Trudeau positively recruited them, brought them here as part of his campaign political photo op.
00:03:34.580 Trudeau literally recruited this alleged murderer.
00:03:38.580 But the second thing is, why?
00:03:40.920 Trudeau promised that he would bring in no single military-aged Muslim men from Syria.
00:03:48.660 He said that.
00:03:50.400 He said only families, as in people who meet our Canadian norms of refugees, women and children, or the men at least have to be leading families.
00:03:59.900 This image of a young military-aged Muslim men by the thousand marching across Europe towards Germany, yeah, no one really thinks they're genuine refugees.
00:04:09.940 At best, they're economic migrants shopping around for the most generous welfare system.
00:04:15.200 Of course, they're leaving Turkey for Germany.
00:04:17.020 At worst, some of them are terrorists sneaking in.
00:04:20.720 So many of Europe's recent terrorist attacks have, in fact, been perpetrated by people coming into Europe claiming to be refugees.
00:04:30.220 Trudeau promised he wouldn't do that.
00:04:31.460 He promised no single men.
00:04:33.820 But he did.
00:04:34.660 This 28-year-old single man named Ibrahim Ali was allowed to come to Canada from the murder and rape culture of Syria.
00:04:42.060 He came to Canada, excuse me.
00:04:43.180 He brought with him, though, if the allegations by police are true, the terrorist culture, the Civil War culture, and he was a single male, no family.
00:04:52.840 So he was allowed to come in.
00:04:54.900 Why?
00:04:55.200 Because one of his siblings came, too.
00:04:56.920 So Trudeau lied to you.
00:04:59.760 I mean, a family is a nuclear family.
00:05:01.480 Your husband, wife, kids.
00:05:03.240 An adult brother isn't part of the family.
00:05:06.160 Can't tag along.
00:05:06.860 But Trudeau let him.
00:05:08.640 And now Ibrahim Ali is accused of murder.
00:05:10.720 That's on Trudeau's hands.
00:05:14.740 How many more single military-aged Muslim migrants sneaked into Canada from violent Syria because Trudeau lied about no single military-aged men?
00:05:22.320 We don't know.
00:05:23.560 And our media is incurious at best.
00:05:26.600 Not incurious.
00:05:27.400 They're on the side of the accused murderer.
00:05:29.120 Look at the CBC headline.
00:05:32.180 Man charged with murder of Marissa Shen, 13, had no criminal record and was new to Canada.
00:05:39.620 He had no criminal record.
00:05:41.400 In Canada, he was only here a few months.
00:05:44.300 Do we know what his criminal record was back in Syria?
00:05:47.720 Do you think there are records in that blown-up country?
00:05:52.880 Do you think there are reliable police databases?
00:05:55.400 Do you think there actually are police governing Syria with the rule of law?
00:06:00.920 And, of course, Ali didn't come here from Syria.
00:06:03.080 Who knows anything about him?
00:06:05.320 Certainly not our own government.
00:06:06.580 They only knew that they wanted 50,000 migrants brought here within a month or two to show how woke they are.
00:06:12.460 But let's accept that he had no criminal record.
00:06:15.220 Look at this headline also on the CBC.
00:06:16.900 Look at this one.
00:06:18.900 Tragedy shakes communities that help bring murder suspect to Canada.
00:06:23.700 Oh, so it's just a tragedy.
00:06:26.720 A 13-year-old girl is murdered.
00:06:29.700 What, a tragedy?
00:06:30.600 No, a tragedy is an earthquake or something that's sad but not morally evil.
00:06:35.980 It's tragic to get cancer.
00:06:38.420 A murder, first-degree murder.
00:06:39.940 Of course, it has tragic elements.
00:06:41.220 A young girl's life is cut short.
00:06:42.400 But that part's tragic.
00:06:44.400 But the cause of the tragedy is pure evil, a crime, the capital crime, a murder.
00:06:48.800 But the CBC is spinning this.
00:06:50.100 I mean, consider the entire article.
00:06:52.240 It's about the real victims here, the communities who brought this Syrian migrant to Canada.
00:06:57.380 They're really the ones suffering the most.
00:06:59.000 Forget about the dead 13-year-old girl and her grieving family.
00:07:01.760 This is really about the accused Syrian killer and the poor, poor immigration industry that's embarrassed now.
00:07:08.640 I tweeted about that grotesque CBC headline.
00:07:11.880 And to my surprise, they later changed it.
00:07:14.120 I guess they have a drop of shame left in them.
00:07:17.160 But not the local Burnaby newspaper.
00:07:19.100 They changed their headline the opposite way.
00:07:22.420 At first, they reported the actual news.
00:07:24.240 Here's their first headline.
00:07:25.180 I'm breaking Syrian refugee charged with murder of 13-year-old Marissa Shen.
00:07:30.780 That's the truth, right?
00:07:33.160 But then they changed it.
00:07:34.500 They changed it without explanation or an editor's note.
00:07:37.080 Here's what it looks like now.
00:07:38.220 It says, breaking 28-year-old man charged with murder of Marissa Shen.
00:07:43.760 Why did they make that change?
00:07:46.740 Why did they take out the fact that he was a Syrian migrant?
00:07:49.840 Isn't that an interesting fact?
00:07:51.300 I mean, a foreigner, a non-citizen, someone Trudeau swore would be safe if he brought him here.
00:07:56.780 Someone Trudeau actually said wouldn't even be allowed in.
00:07:59.520 A single military-aged Muslim man from Syria.
00:08:02.300 He's charged with murder months after he set foot here.
00:08:06.020 A Syrian migrant.
00:08:07.500 Why was that considered newsworthy for a moment, but then not the next moment?
00:08:11.700 Who told that newspaper to change that headline?
00:08:14.500 And who told them to delete all the reader comments, too?
00:08:18.520 The CBC State Broadcaster was just as creepy.
00:08:20.880 Back to their story.
00:08:21.940 Look at this sub-headline.
00:08:24.880 This is, again, the headline that they later changed when I tweeted about it.
00:08:28.120 But the sub-headline says, police caution against tarnishing community whose Canadian story has largely been one of hard work and success.
00:08:36.700 Hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:08:37.480 Someone was just arrested for murder, and police are cautioning about tarnishing a story about a community.
00:08:44.560 Yet, hasn't the accused murderer done enough tarnishing of his own community?
00:08:49.940 Should the police be worried about, you know, policing?
00:08:53.200 There's a lot of Ibrahim Ali's running around Vancouver these days, getting into tangles with the law.
00:08:59.380 I think they're tarnishing anything that's tarnished.
00:09:03.640 Isn't the community that needs our support right now, you know, moms and dads with kids?
00:09:07.800 Marissa Shen is Chinese.
00:09:09.180 I don't know if this was an anti-Chinese hate crime.
00:09:12.320 I'm guessing it was not.
00:09:13.940 But why doesn't that community get a shout-out from the police?
00:09:17.560 Why don't they get the CBC sympathy?
00:09:19.380 But let me read some more from this weird CBC story.
00:09:22.180 Let me read.
00:09:24.160 The Vancouver Church, which assisted with the private refugee sponsorship of the man accused of killing 13-year-old Marissa Shen,
00:09:30.760 will cooperate with police as their investigation into Ibrahim Ali continues.
00:09:35.180 St. Andrews Wesley United Church lead minister Dan Chambers issued a brief statement Tuesday
00:09:39.760 in response to questions about Ali, a Syrian national who came to Canada with other members of his family in March 2017.
00:09:47.720 Okay, dumb question here.
00:09:49.040 Why was the Vancouver Christian Church sponsoring a single military-aged Muslim man to come over?
00:09:55.420 I was in Iraq last year myself, and there are thousands of Christians living in refugee camps.
00:10:02.520 Now, they're not United Nations refugee camps because the Muslims in there kill Christians in the U.N. refugee camps.
00:10:09.320 But these special Christians-only refugee camps, there's some Yazidis in there, too.
00:10:13.360 They have to go to these special camps because they're being ethnically cleansed by ISIS terrorists.
00:10:19.580 Why didn't the Christian Church in Canada take a Christian refugee?
00:10:22.780 They're being targeted for genocide by ISIS.
00:10:26.580 Why didn't they take a Muslim refugee who wasn't actually in Syria, wasn't actually a refugee, wasn't actually in danger?
00:10:32.580 And more to the point, I mean, if a Muslim country wanted to take him, well, he could have stayed in the region.
00:10:39.220 Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, where he actually was.
00:10:42.180 There's something broken with modern Christian churches that won't lift a finger to help their own brethren, the target of Muslim genocide against Christians.
00:10:50.620 But they'll take their own church money to bring over a single military-aged Muslim migrant who then allegedly kills a Chinese girl who herself was probably Christian.
00:10:58.720 This is so weird.
00:11:00.300 But let me read some more.
00:11:01.260 They're talking about some B.C. leftists from super-hip Bowen Island.
00:11:05.460 And they say this in the CBC, they also partnered with St. Andrews Wesley, which has a refugee task force as part of its commitment to justice and social action.
00:11:15.300 In March 2017, their efforts came to fruition with the arrival of Ali and two of his brothers, one of whom was accompanied by his wife and three young children.
00:11:29.240 Okay, so there's one family there, but it wasn't Ali who was single.
00:11:33.760 And there's another single male Muslim migrant from Syria who just tagged along because he's a brother.
00:11:42.260 Just how many people are there that broke Trudeau's promise of no single men?
00:11:49.340 And what's that brother up to?
00:11:52.300 Okay, here's some more from the CBC story.
00:11:54.040 The Facebook page that once celebrated the sponsorship project is no longer available.
00:11:59.620 And church members were asked to refrain from speaking to the media.
00:12:02.320 Questions have been raised on social media about the screening process for privately sponsored refugees.
00:12:09.060 I love that touch.
00:12:10.360 Questions have been raised on social media.
00:12:12.380 That's the CBC's way of saying, we're not allowed to ask questions and we certainly wouldn't ask tough questions.
00:12:17.880 I mean, we're part of Trudeau's state broadcaster.
00:12:20.020 Same thing at Burnaby Now.
00:12:21.240 Change that mean headline that was too truthy.
00:12:24.400 Delete the comments to it.
00:12:25.620 Only the deplorable people, only the bad people on social media or at the rebel would dare to ask,
00:12:31.400 why are we doing this to ourselves as a country who is on guard for us from Syria?
00:12:39.140 Anyways, after that allusion to other questions that the CBC itself doesn't have the courage to ask,
00:12:46.480 they quote a Muslim immigration lawyer because he'll tell us what the hard, cold facts here are.
00:12:51.940 No bias here.
00:12:52.920 Immigration lawyer Zul Suleiman told the CBC's early edition,
00:12:56.880 the screening process is very thorough.
00:12:59.940 You got to believe me, guys.
00:13:01.520 It's very unusual for someone with a significant criminal record to enter Canada as an immigrant, he said.
00:13:07.160 There are very robust checks in place to keep an eye on this dimension of all immigrants who come here to be permanent residents.
00:13:15.160 Zuliman, like police, warned against people using an unpredictable individual tragedy.
00:13:20.220 Tragedy, that word again.
00:13:21.340 To tarnish a community whose Canadian experience has generally been one of hard work and success.
00:13:28.500 So he said there's very robust checks in place.
00:13:31.540 Do you think that's true?
00:13:33.820 Do you think we had very robust checks on Ibrahim Ali before he was scooped up and brought over here?
00:13:40.600 Remember, 50,000 Syrians were jammed through immigration in, what, a couple months?
00:13:45.320 How robust could those checks have been?
00:13:47.980 And how many Canadian immigration staff even speak Arabic?
00:13:51.720 How many of these so-called refugees even had ID?
00:13:56.180 I don't believe it.
00:13:56.900 Trudeau's CBC is convinced, though.
00:13:58.320 I don't think anyone else is.
00:13:59.480 As usual, if we want accurate news about something controversial in Canada,
00:14:03.960 whether it's about how poorly the NAFTA negotiations are going,
00:14:06.880 or about Trudeau groping that journalist in B.C. a few years back,
00:14:11.000 or I don't know how disastrous the India trip was,
00:14:14.060 we have to go to foreign media.
00:14:16.160 So let me close by showing you what the South China Morning Post says.
00:14:20.760 They're a very reputable newspaper based in Hong Kong.
00:14:23.960 They've been there for decades, long before China took Hong Kong over.
00:14:27.020 It's like the Wall Street Journal of Hong Kong, really.
00:14:29.980 And they have a reporter in Vancouver, it won't surprise you to learn.
00:14:33.220 So they're actually a very quality newspaper,
00:14:35.420 and they don't share the CBC's pro-Trudeau obsessions.
00:14:38.580 So here's their headline from the South China Morning Post.
00:14:43.020 Syrian refugee Ibrahim Ali is charged with murder of Vancouver schoolgirl Marissa Shen, 13,
00:14:49.680 a case that stunned Canada.
00:14:53.500 Yeah, isn't that the truth, eh?
00:14:55.680 And I have to read it in a Chinese newspaper.
00:14:57.540 Here's their sub-headline.
00:14:58.600 Now, can I read a bit more?
00:15:08.960 Just a little more.
00:15:09.700 Canadian police have arrested a Syrian refugee
00:15:13.340 and charged him with the killing of Marissa Shen, 13,
00:15:16.780 whose death horrified Vancouver when her body was found in a local park 14 months ago.
00:15:22.480 Now, just scroll through the story a bit.
00:15:23.980 It's very detailed.
00:15:25.480 It's very long.
00:15:26.340 It quotes Marissa Shen's family.
00:15:28.540 It gives detail about her whereabouts hour by hour before her death
00:15:33.500 that police put together.
00:15:35.180 It's meticulous.
00:15:36.500 There's a map of the park.
00:15:39.960 This is far better journalism about Canada than you get at the CBC.
00:15:47.220 It's good reporting.
00:15:48.900 And look what they reported the police boss from Vancouver saying.
00:15:52.340 Get a load of this.
00:15:54.040 Ibrahim Ali, 28, is accused of first-degree murder.
00:15:57.480 The integrated homicide investigation team announced on Monday.
00:16:01.880 Superintendent Donna Richardson, the officer in charge of IHIT,
00:16:05.960 called for the public to remain calm
00:16:07.640 and not make generalizations about the revelation that Ali was a refugee.
00:16:13.640 Quote,
00:16:14.140 By and large, our refugees that come to the country are hardworking citizens
00:16:17.540 who are very happy to be in Canada.
00:16:19.520 I hope that we look at this incident for what it is,
00:16:21.400 a one-off situation, she said at a press conference on Monday.
00:16:26.380 Hang on a second.
00:16:28.000 So he's a hardworking citizen?
00:16:30.560 These Syrians are hardworking citizens?
00:16:32.100 Well, actually, they're not citizens.
00:16:35.420 When you come to Canada as a refugee, you're not granted citizenship.
00:16:38.900 You're a permanent resident.
00:16:40.800 You can later on apply for citizenship, but you're not a citizen.
00:16:44.940 Ibrahim Ali was not a citizen.
00:16:47.120 He allegedly committed this murder three months after he got here.
00:16:49.680 Citizen sounds great, though.
00:16:51.600 Sounds like a taxpayer.
00:16:53.060 Sounds like a contributing member of society
00:16:55.480 who follows our rules and lives up to our culture.
00:16:59.220 Ali was not a citizen.
00:17:00.500 Why would the police lie?
00:17:02.700 Hardworking citizens, no less.
00:17:04.980 Do we know if that's true?
00:17:06.920 Do we know if Ibrahim Ali was hardworking?
00:17:09.300 You know, even the CBC acknowledges that Syrians who came here from Trudeau,
00:17:14.780 they just don't work at all.
00:17:19.000 They don't speak English or French.
00:17:21.840 They don't even have a high school equivalent on average.
00:17:24.520 They have no job skills.
00:17:26.420 Ninety percent of Justin Trudeau's Syrian migrants are unemployed.
00:17:32.060 Ninety percent are unemployed.
00:17:34.300 And according to other government statistics,
00:17:37.360 even five years after all refugees come to Canada,
00:17:41.400 half of them are still on welfare.
00:17:42.480 And that's not even talking about the Syrians.
00:17:45.500 Why would the police lie?
00:17:47.840 They're not citizens.
00:17:48.700 They're not hardworking.
00:17:51.280 And since when are police experts on economics and jobs
00:17:54.140 and what we should feel or not?
00:17:57.720 These Syrian refugees aren't really from Syria.
00:17:59.660 They're from Lebanon, from Turkey, from Jordan.
00:18:01.360 They're not really refugees.
00:18:02.360 They were safe in those countries.
00:18:03.380 Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan.
00:18:06.080 Many of them don't really want to be here,
00:18:09.380 especially since the civil war in Syria is pretty much over.
00:18:11.860 Look at all these stories.
00:18:13.520 Since Trump and Putin crushed ISIS,
00:18:16.160 tens of thousands of Syrian refugees are going home.
00:18:24.540 Going home.
00:18:25.580 I wish Ibrahim Ali went home 17 months ago before he allegedly committed the murder.
00:18:34.260 I wish both Ibrahim Ali's went home.
00:18:37.920 I wish all the other Syrian migrants committing crimes or being accused of crimes.
00:18:41.420 I wish they just went home now.
00:18:45.060 You know that thug who came to New Brunswick?
00:18:46.940 He was the star of an Australian documentary.
00:18:51.120 Such a hero.
00:18:52.300 He was later convicted of beating his wife for half an hour with a hockey stick.
00:18:55.240 Remember him?
00:18:56.120 He said he didn't know beating your wife with a hockey stick wasn't allowed in Canada.
00:18:59.720 That's a nice Canadian touch, eh?
00:19:01.620 Beat your wife with a hockey stick.
00:19:03.200 So Canadian.
00:19:05.080 Hey, good news.
00:19:06.160 It's safe for him to go back to Syria now.
00:19:09.420 95% of Syria is under government control now.
00:19:13.040 ISIS is on the run.
00:19:14.860 Hey, Ibrahim, your country needs you.
00:19:18.620 You need to rebuild it.
00:19:20.560 All you young military-age single Muslim men who should not have come here, your country needs you to join the army or the militia to guard against ISIS returning.
00:19:32.040 Maybe you can find a nice Syrian girl and get married and you can live in your customary ways and hopefully not beat too many women with hockey sticks, but do it over there.
00:19:42.660 The war is over.
00:19:45.480 Go home.
00:19:46.300 You're not a refugee now.
00:19:47.460 The war is over.
00:19:50.560 And to my fellow Canadians, just a tip.
00:19:52.600 If you want to know what's really happening in Canada, you can't trust the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation or any newspaper like Burnaby now.
00:19:59.360 You can trust the rebel, I think.
00:20:01.780 And in this case, may I recommend the South China Morning Post?
00:20:07.440 It's based in Hong Kong, which is now part of Communist China.
00:20:11.300 Yeah, but you'll get a more accurate, honest, independent report from men than from our own media party.
00:20:20.560 Stay with us for more.
00:20:39.240 Welcome back.
00:20:40.160 Well, one of the interesting things about running an internet-based TV station is that you get lots of statistics and analytics on the different shows.
00:20:49.280 And our next guest is by far our most popular guest for two months running.
00:20:56.120 And I think it's because he's the only person in Canada telling the other side of the story on Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland's disastrous NAFTA negotiations.
00:21:06.620 I'm talking, of course, about my friend Manny Montenegrino, who is a former lawyer to Stephen Harper, and he's with ThinkSharp.
00:21:15.800 Manny, great to welcome you back to the program.
00:21:17.920 Nice to have you again.
00:21:19.080 Thank you for having me, Ezra.
00:21:22.120 I want to start off by showing you a stunning video.
00:21:25.100 We've got a lot to talk about, about NAFTA.
00:21:26.880 But I want to show you a clip, and I know you've seen this.
00:21:31.840 Chrystia Freeland, our foreign minister, flew back from NAFTA negotiations to attend a feminist conference and to speak on a panel called Taking on the Tyrant.
00:21:43.660 And I want to play a video clip for you from that panel.
00:21:48.020 It takes three full minutes, Manny, but I think you've got to see it to believe it.
00:21:53.700 Can I play that clip?
00:21:55.200 And then we'll come back and talk about that clip, and then we'll talk about the NAFTA negotiations.
00:21:59.560 Okay, so let me just set it up for one more second.
00:22:02.140 This is in Toronto.
00:22:03.640 This is at a feminist conference hosted by Heather Reisman, who's a feminist entrepreneur in Canada.
00:22:10.300 This video clip was the introduction to the panel.
00:22:14.100 The panel was called Taking on the Tyrant, and Chrystia Freeland was one of the two-star guests.
00:22:19.200 Without further ado, let me show you the event Chrystia Freeland spoke at.
00:22:44.100 There's a name for Victor Orbán's system of government.
00:22:56.360 He calls it illiberal democracy.
00:22:58.320 It's basically the primacy of populist nationalism over individual freedoms.
00:23:03.360 On the campaign trail, Italy's new interior minister used hardline rhetoric to fire up the voters.
00:23:08.760 Fake, fake, disgusting news.
00:23:22.580 This was a direct act by the Russian state against our country.
00:23:34.480 Thank you.
00:24:04.480 She's loved.
00:24:15.580 We love her, right?
00:24:18.100 We love her.
00:24:20.720 That was wonderful.
00:24:22.360 Did you bask in that moment?
00:24:24.020 That's lovely.
00:24:25.420 Welcome, everybody.
00:24:27.000 I'm Canada's minister of foreign affairs.
00:24:29.080 My name is Chrystia Freeland.
00:24:30.100 And I'm also the member of parliament for University Rosedale.
00:24:34.520 So we are now in my riding.
00:24:37.180 And isn't it a great riding?
00:24:38.960 And yeah.
00:24:39.340 We are on the traditional lands of the Mississaugas of the New Credit First Nation.
00:24:45.960 And I think it's important to acknowledge that.
00:24:47.680 And in the end, it's a great pleasure to be here with you, especially with the Canadian women.
00:24:56.500 And your support is very, very important for me.
00:25:02.300 Thank you very much.
00:25:02.980 Well, it could go on, but it gets only worse.
00:25:07.960 Manny Monadino, that was a Trump bashing video.
00:25:12.580 And I don't know if she would have seen the whole video before she got to the event, but
00:25:18.140 she would have known the event was called Taking on the Tyrant.
00:25:21.940 She would have been briefed about what the panel would require from her because she was
00:25:26.760 one of only two guests there.
00:25:28.440 And even after she saw the video, and let's give her the benefit of the doubt and say she
00:25:32.040 didn't know it was going to be a vicious attack on Donald Trump as some fascist.
00:25:36.580 She applauded it.
00:25:38.220 She basked in it.
00:25:39.940 And she said, yeah, this is my moment.
00:25:42.080 And then she did a little virtue signaling.
00:25:44.260 That's insane for anyone in a Canadian cabinet.
00:25:50.240 For someone who's doing a NAFTA negotiation.
00:25:52.680 Manny, what do you make of that?
00:25:54.300 Well, it just supports my premise.
00:25:57.000 I've been saying, as you know, for months and perhaps almost a year.
00:26:01.940 No, I have tweeted it a year ago.
00:26:04.480 But that is its main purpose.
00:26:06.100 The purpose of this government is to win the next election.
00:26:11.120 And they see the best way to do it is to create a battle between Trump and this government
00:26:19.000 and to prove that Canadians will now vote for this government.
00:26:23.060 And this is just more evidence.
00:26:24.540 It's alarming.
00:26:25.440 I mean, you wouldn't see Mexico, who worked very hard some 20, 30 days in a row to craft
00:26:32.660 a deal, to agree to a deal.
00:26:33.860 They didn't break up and go and do these videos that are insulting to their negotiating partner,
00:26:41.580 their biggest trade partner.
00:26:44.000 So it's just more evidence.
00:26:45.340 And I think, Ezra, if you see it from that point of view, it's very clear that the purpose
00:26:51.080 is to create this, what I'll call a division between Canada and America, or Trump more particularly,
00:27:01.560 and this prime minister.
00:27:03.040 And that's why it works.
00:27:04.720 And that's why there was great applause.
00:27:06.420 But it's not about trade, because if it was about trade, any reasonable person would not
00:27:11.960 have done or gone to that in the middle of a NAFTA negotiation.
00:27:16.880 So it just supports my premise.
00:27:18.900 And it's alarming.
00:27:20.780 I mean, I was very sad when I saw that.
00:27:23.460 I couldn't believe it.
00:27:24.580 But it supports my premise.
00:27:27.120 And there's more.
00:27:28.480 Yeah.
00:27:28.920 You know, when you're a senior cabinet minister, I mean, foreign minister is a very senior position.
00:27:33.580 You have a lot of staff.
00:27:34.840 You have people called advanced people.
00:27:37.060 They would go to the event in advance.
00:27:38.880 They would check out who's the introducer.
00:27:41.300 They would check where's the seat.
00:27:43.160 Where's the glass of water?
00:27:44.340 Like, down to every detail.
00:27:45.960 And they would have known absolutely the nature of the event.
00:27:51.060 They probably would have seen that video.
00:27:53.140 But let's just say, for the benefit of the doubt, they didn't.
00:27:55.780 She knew she was going to an anti-Trump event.
00:27:58.600 But, Manny, what gets me is it wasn't a substantive disagreement with Trump.
00:28:03.440 It wasn't, we're going to defend this industry.
00:28:06.200 Or it wasn't even saying we want Chapter 19, the dispute resolution mechanism,
00:28:10.940 or we want the dairy cartel.
00:28:12.400 You can agree or disagree with that, but that's substantive.
00:28:14.640 This was pure Trump derangement, pure demonizing Trump.
00:28:19.860 It was all personal.
00:28:21.660 And that's what's so alarming here.
00:28:24.560 Mexico surely has substantive differences with Trump,
00:28:28.060 but they're not twisting a knife in him in the middle of a negotiation.
00:28:31.420 Well, they want a deal.
00:28:32.920 I mean, before this video came out, Ezra,
00:28:35.640 there were more alarming signs that supports my premise
00:28:40.100 that really this government does not want a NAFTA deal.
00:28:44.340 What this government does want is to create a division,
00:28:49.340 a Trump hate narrative, to get Trump hate votes in Canada.
00:28:52.900 And it's that simple.
00:28:54.140 I mean, let's go, you might recall there were two points
00:28:58.400 that were not negotiable six months ago, four or five months ago.
00:29:03.520 The prime minister stood up and said, these are not negotiable.
00:29:07.780 We will not have an NAFTA deal.
00:29:09.980 And they were the five-year sunset clause and no deal without Mexico.
00:29:14.280 I mean, the president of the United States offered a bilateral deal almost a year ago.
00:29:19.740 And they said, absolutely not.
00:29:21.660 We will not do a deal without Mexico.
00:29:23.700 And we will not have this five-year sunset clause.
00:29:26.580 But those are both gone.
00:29:28.020 Those were the only impediments to a deal.
00:29:30.140 Now they're gone.
00:29:31.460 And what are they substituted with?
00:29:33.240 They substituted with two new, that we've never heard of, the cultural.
00:29:37.620 Now we're here defending cultural issues.
00:29:39.920 That's now the line in the sand.
00:29:42.000 That's the red line.
00:29:43.660 And that wasn't said a year ago.
00:29:45.640 So it's disingenuous to bring it up now.
00:29:47.860 As well, as you mentioned, Chapter 19.
00:29:51.440 Chapter 19 is a dispute resolution system that's in NAFTA.
00:29:55.980 And it hasn't been used for the last 10 years or so.
00:30:00.780 It basically is a clause that really has no useful effect anymore.
00:30:06.220 What they want to do is they simply, the negotiators want to move it from a panel where people select who's on the panel to the court.
00:30:17.860 Now, most people trust and rely on the courts.
00:30:21.460 And what has our prime minister said about Chapter 19?
00:30:25.320 And you might recall this.
00:30:26.660 And it's in my 59th tweet, if you will, because now I have a series of tweet of evidence.
00:30:33.460 But the prime minister said, we know we have a president that doesn't always follow the rules.
00:30:39.700 And that's why he's not supportive of Chapter 19 changes.
00:30:43.560 Now, Ezra, no one in the media, no one, no lawyer, no one has asked, what do you mean by that, Mr. Prime Minister?
00:30:52.560 We know we have a president that doesn't follow the rules.
00:30:56.280 Well, Chapter 19 is a resolution that goes to the courts.
00:31:00.460 No president, not this president or any president, could pick up the phone and talk to a judge.
00:31:05.700 It is insulting to the to the judiciary of America or Canada.
00:31:11.000 It's insulting to this president.
00:31:13.300 It's insulting to future president.
00:31:15.380 And when President Trump is gone and there's a new president, no president will pick up the phone and start interfering with a court on a on a dispute mechanism under Chapter 19.
00:31:28.900 That tells me that there is really it's insincere and no lawyer has even questioned it.
00:31:36.500 Yeah. I mean, by nature, whenever you're negotiating with someone, you have a difference of opinion.
00:31:42.420 You know, I think it was Shimon Peres, the late Israeli leader who said you make peace with your enemies.
00:31:48.380 That's the most dramatic example of that.
00:31:50.540 If you're ever in a negotiation, it's with someone you have a disagreement with.
00:31:53.840 Fine, fine.
00:31:54.640 But you have to have some good faith.
00:31:57.720 And what I find here is you've just raised some excellent points that maybe substantively Canada is not even negotiating in good faith.
00:32:06.980 If we're coming up with last minute objections that we are negotiators haven't even mentioned before.
00:32:12.680 But I think you don't even need to, you know, detect bad faith in the substance when you see the I can't even I don't even know how to describe what Christia Freeland was doing there.
00:32:24.620 It was like she was leading a rally for the Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wing of the Democrats.
00:32:35.180 And the weird virtue signaling, the selfie style, let me say something in English and French, let me boast about my riding, let me give a shout out to Aboriginal issues.
00:32:46.160 It was a level of insincerity and virtue signaling.
00:32:50.120 I just don't even understand how that can be accepted in the first rank of international relations.
00:32:57.380 Manny, I think you're right. I think we're doomed.
00:32:59.160 Well, I mean, if you look at it, if you start with the premise, do they want a NAFTA deal?
00:33:04.360 Now, as you know, businesses set up companies every month, every day.
00:33:11.040 And uncertainty tells businesses where to go.
00:33:14.600 Canada has been under a cloud of uncertainty.
00:33:18.620 The NAFTA deal is not done.
00:33:19.900 Mexico understood this.
00:33:20.900 That's why they wanted the deal quickly.
00:33:22.380 In case this new business wants to set up in Mexico, we are on board.
00:33:26.060 Come here.
00:33:26.560 But now, as we delay, there are billions of dollars that are not invested in Canada.
00:33:32.400 We've had that pipeline fiasco that basically says to the world, if you're in oil and pipelines, don't come to Canada.
00:33:39.860 Now, with NAFTA, if you're setting up any business, well, we're not sure we're going to do this deal.
00:33:44.660 We're going to continue to poke the president.
00:33:48.640 And God knows how long that will take.
00:33:50.280 So they'll set up.
00:33:51.180 These are billions of dollars in jobs that are not seen today, but will be seen in the future, lost to Canada.
00:33:57.520 So it is clearly intentional.
00:33:59.320 I mean, I continue to find evidence.
00:34:02.300 And as you say, Ezra, that little speech in Toronto by the foreign minister who's negotiating this trade deal is the last piece of evidence you ever need to know.
00:34:13.240 But this government really doesn't have its primary goal is not NAFTA.
00:34:18.280 Its primary goal is to win the next election, and it's to win it by getting Trump hate votes.
00:34:24.200 And if that means NAFTA fails or if that means NAFTA gets delayed and the economy suffers, it really doesn't matter.
00:34:31.880 I mean, the prime minister is already, as you may have seen, the prime minister is already warned that there may be potential disastrous effect to the auto sector.
00:34:42.940 He's already warned that.
00:34:44.580 Now, why would a prime minister warn that?
00:34:46.940 That is something that you could not possibly have happen.
00:34:51.180 But he's already warned it, and it's already been publicized.
00:34:54.980 Well, that's what I am having trouble coming to terms with.
00:34:58.500 And I remember when you first put your thesis to me a few weeks ago that Trudeau wants this to fail and Trump wants it to fail so Trump can pull those factories from southern Ontario.
00:35:09.460 And I think there's a small car industry in Quebec, too.
00:35:12.740 Pull those into battleground states like Ohio and Michigan and maybe Pennsylvania and Indiana because Trump would win.
00:35:20.880 He'd bring the jobs home, the factories home.
00:35:22.760 He doesn't care about votes in Ontario and Quebec.
00:35:25.880 And Trudeau would win in that he could get all the anti-Trump.
00:35:28.920 So in a weird way, they both win.
00:35:31.020 But here's what I don't get about this.
00:35:32.500 And answer me this, if you can.
00:35:34.880 You talked about the pipelines that won't get built.
00:35:37.840 Those are jobs that don't exist now that we won't get.
00:35:41.800 And that's a crying shame.
00:35:43.700 But we won't feel it as much as a job that does exist that's taken away.
00:35:48.280 So let's say we've given up thousands of jobs in pipelines that will never be built and oil sands projects that will never be built.
00:35:56.800 It's we won't sense that loss because it didn't exist to begin with.
00:36:01.400 Whereas if you actually shut down an existing factory, there will be real people who really do lose their jobs.
00:36:08.940 And it will be tangible and visible and painful to families.
00:36:13.720 How can Trudeau think that that enormous body blow to Ontario and partially to Quebec of shutting down those factories won't be a disaster economically and also politically?
00:36:26.020 Is running against Trump really a stronger asset than creating 100,000, 160,000 unemployed new families?
00:36:35.100 Well, I can only conclude that their answer, the Liberals' answer is yes, or we wouldn't be here at the brink of a disaster.
00:36:43.180 It may only be two or three ridings.
00:36:45.620 But how many more votes that are across Canada, and it's 24-7 media on everything that Trump's done wrong, and it's now starting to happen with Ford.
00:36:57.460 It's just, it's amazing.
00:36:59.200 But so, yes, it might affect one or two ridings.
00:37:02.620 But the number of people that will blame Trump, it would be, we will all kind of be on that side.
00:37:11.780 So they've done the metrics, and yes, 100,000 jobs, a few ridings is not as big as the big picture.
00:37:19.540 That's my estimation.
00:37:20.920 I haven't found any evidence to disprove what my theory is.
00:37:25.300 And I'm not, listen, every day I wake up, I hope that I will.
00:37:28.980 I'd hope that I'd find it.
00:37:30.340 But when the prime minister just one or two days ago said, in getting the people ready, saying,
00:37:36.000 be careful, there may be an impact, a disruption to the auto sector, that's already saying, hey, we like where we're going, and we don't mind if Trump does this.
00:37:46.740 You know, part of me thinks, well, maybe this is brinksmanship.
00:37:51.560 Maybe this is banter.
00:37:53.280 This is people taking positions in a negotiation, and it's just high drama, but it'll all be resolved.
00:38:01.320 But I want to believe that, but I don't sense that.
00:38:06.060 And I mean, I don't understand why Chrystia Freeland, and I understand that Gerald Butts, the principal secretary to Trudeau,
00:38:14.280 and Katie Telfer, the chief of staff to Trudeau, they were down in Washington too.
00:38:18.420 But they're not professional negotiators.
00:38:20.260 They're political activists.
00:38:21.680 They're speechwriters.
00:38:22.780 They're political managers.
00:38:24.260 They have talents, that's for sure.
00:38:25.740 But I don't understand why we don't have professional negotiators doing the negotiation.
00:38:31.920 Well, you know, we have negotiators that are negotiating for what they want.
00:38:36.500 I mean, you keep going back to the point that there are professional negotiators, and they're all doing the NAFTA deal.
00:38:42.020 We, Canada, probably have some great negotiators.
00:38:44.420 But they've been giving the marching orders from the government.
00:38:48.380 And, you know, so, and their premise or their hope is something else.
00:38:53.300 So it is happening as it's played out.
00:38:56.060 I mean, Ezra, you started with the clip, and I will go with that.
00:38:59.440 Under no circumstance would anyone ever attend a forum that says Trump is a tyrant in the last days of a NAFTA deal.
00:39:12.560 Especially, I mean, we're not even talking about an MP.
00:39:16.560 We're not talking about, we had an MP that was removed by the Liberal government, a cabinet minister, that when she spoke poorly against George Bush, she was removed.
00:39:31.180 Now, that's a sensitivity that we once had.
00:39:33.680 That's not the case.
00:39:34.460 We have the most senior cabinet minister who is in the last days of negotiating, going to this seminar, calling Trump a tyrant.
00:39:42.680 That has to tell Canadians a lot.
00:39:46.240 It speaks great volumes that NAFTA is secondary to another cause, and the other cause is political.
00:39:52.300 Plain and simple.
00:39:53.080 And I would love anyone to give me any evidence that I'm wrong.
00:39:57.380 Because it is, everywhere I go, and as you know, Ezra, I now have a tweet thread that's up to about 60 tweets that simply point to facts.
00:40:07.720 And this last one is just another one that leads me to the conclusion that the primary goal is not NAFTA.
00:40:16.200 Manny, you've been very generous with your time, and we spent a few minutes watching that clip.
00:40:20.580 I have just one last question for you, because I just want to know your thoughts on it.
00:40:25.800 So, if one day comes when Trump announces that 20% tariff on our autos, and he said that would likely be the figure,
00:40:34.640 what kind of domino effect would that have on our dollar, on our interest rates, on consumer confidence?
00:40:44.080 What would happen the day he announces those tariffs?
00:40:47.900 You know, Ezra, I have no idea what would happen to the stock market, our dollar.
00:40:51.720 It would be devastating, but, you know, it is, you know, the fact that we're this close,
00:40:59.860 and we're only fighting for Chapter 19 and culture.
00:41:04.360 And if you look at the issue of culture in Canada, I mean, you turn on CBC and catch your news,
00:41:10.200 the first 50% of it is American.
00:41:12.740 It's always American.
00:41:13.660 I mean, so to sit there and say that we are going to come to the brink of disaster,
00:41:19.040 our stock market, our jobs, our auto industry, for Chapter 19, where a judge gets to decide a dispute,
00:41:26.360 where liberals normally want judges to decide disputes, they're very happy about that.
00:41:31.660 And the issue of culture, it doesn't make sense to me at all.
00:41:36.200 Well, Manny, as usual, you leave me more informed, but less happy.
00:41:40.820 Yeah, well, listen, I'm not a happy guy.
00:41:44.660 I love this country.
00:41:46.820 I have fought for this country, as you know, Ezra, for almost 30 years.
00:41:50.520 I've taken a lot of risks for this country, and I am a very, very unhappy guy.
00:41:56.840 The last video that you started this broadcast with just deepened my sadness.
00:42:03.540 Yeah.
00:42:03.740 Well, Manny, I'm glad you're fighting for Canada by speaking the truth to our government.
00:42:11.120 And I think the fact that your videos are so popular is a reflection of the fact
00:42:15.060 people just can't find thoughtful criticism elsewhere in the media.
00:42:19.260 So I thank you for being here today, and I hope we can keep in touch with you in the weeks ahead
00:42:22.760 until this issue is resolved.
00:42:25.320 All right.
00:42:25.520 Thank you, Ezra.
00:42:26.220 Thanks very much.
00:42:26.820 Take care.
00:42:27.520 Manny Montenegreno, a former lawyer to Stephen Harper and the CEO of ThinkSharp.
00:42:32.940 Stay with us.
00:42:34.320 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:42:46.300 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about the anniversary of 9-11, how we're forgetting
00:42:50.760 all the lessons learned that day.
00:42:52.120 Space Moose writes, 17 years later, and we are afraid of being called Islamophobic.
00:42:58.220 Isn't that the truth?
00:42:58.940 I mean, look at what I talked about earlier in the show.
00:43:01.280 So Burnaby now changed the headline to delete reference to Syrian migrants.
00:43:06.260 Why?
00:43:06.560 That is an interesting fact.
00:43:08.340 Why so afraid?
00:43:09.800 Why did the police, instead of showing affection and care for the Chinese community, why are
00:43:17.080 they talking about hardworking Syrian citizens who aren't citizens?
00:43:22.020 And by the way, 90% of them are unemployed, according to the government.
00:43:24.340 Why is the police not even granting some comfort to the murdered family?
00:43:30.960 Why are they talking about the alleged murderers community?
00:43:34.880 Yeah, it's worse than you think.
00:43:38.040 Paul writes, 9-11 was used as an excuse for government to take away rights and freedoms
00:43:42.440 of their people for safety reasons.
00:43:44.460 Since then, every terrorist attack has been used to undermine our rights and freedoms bit
00:43:47.880 by bit.
00:43:48.720 Oh, there is a lot of truth here.
00:43:50.020 I have a question for you.
00:43:51.000 I mean, I fly too much, it's part of my job, but I think many Canadians fly at least a few
00:43:56.060 times a year.
00:43:57.380 The more you fly, the more the security theater grates on you.
00:44:01.940 The more you start to resent being groped.
00:44:05.100 You start to resent having to take off your belt and your shoes and things of that sort
00:44:09.900 and being exposed to whatever the radiation is and the long lines and the dehumanization
00:44:14.720 and being treated like cattle.
00:44:16.740 I think if you travel once a year, it's probably not that bad.
00:44:19.120 Oh, they're groping me.
00:44:20.280 It's different.
00:44:21.620 You travel once a month, it's more odious.
00:44:24.240 You travel once a week, you start to hate it.
00:44:26.380 Can I ask you a question about all that groping?
00:44:28.300 Well, in the 17 years since 9-11, has it ever caught a terrorist?
00:44:34.760 I don't think so.
00:44:36.380 I don't think so.
00:44:37.900 That's a perfect example.
00:44:39.480 And we've been conditioned, we've become obedient to accept these little infringements
00:44:42.820 in the name of security.
00:44:44.300 It's not security, that's security theater.
00:44:47.860 Don writes, speak for others, Ezra, if you wish, but not for me.
00:44:51.680 I have forgotten nothing.
00:44:53.200 If anything, since 9-11, I have learned much more about the religion of pieces and can forget
00:44:57.360 even less.
00:44:58.740 Well, of course, Don, that's what I'm talking about.
00:45:00.760 When I say we have forgotten, I'm not saying me.
00:45:03.360 I think I'm quite woke on the subject and you too.
00:45:06.480 And I think that there are others who care a lot.
00:45:09.080 But I think the establishment, or as Daniel Pipe says, the 5P professionals, the press,
00:45:15.400 the politicians, the police, the prosecutors, the professors, and sometimes he adds in a few
00:45:19.840 more Ps.
00:45:20.980 I think they've forgotten.
00:45:22.660 Or no, they haven't forgotten.
00:45:24.600 They say they've forgotten.
00:45:25.900 And they're terrified, just like you and I, but they are more terrified of being called
00:45:30.460 Islamophobic.
00:45:32.900 On my interview with ousted, Professor Rick Maeda, Harold writes,
00:45:37.480 Regarding outspoken Professor Rick Maeda, he's just another victim of progressive fascism.
00:45:41.720 Yeah, I mean, I had never talked to him before and he doesn't have quite the same forceful
00:45:49.520 personality as Jordan Peterson.
00:45:51.480 And so I think part of Jordan Peterson's success was that he had been thinking about these kind
00:45:58.860 of fights for years.
00:45:59.940 And he had also developed some amateur skills in YouTube and social media.
00:46:05.900 So I think he was sort of like a boxer who had been training.
00:46:09.800 Little did he know.
00:46:10.880 So when the big fight came, he was ready.
00:46:13.640 He had built up fans.
00:46:15.540 He had a bit of a cult following.
00:46:17.500 And he had that great moment of courage as you, I don't know if you remember when, when
00:46:23.340 he, when there was a denunciation of him by these radical leftist students and he walked
00:46:28.360 out there and he said, I know what happened in communist China.
00:46:31.260 And he sort of, he had this great moment.
00:46:32.940 I sense with Rick Maeda is that he may have similar claims or even stronger claims than Jordan
00:46:40.100 Peterson did, but I sense that he is not ready for the primetime fight that Jordan Peterson
00:46:46.880 was.
00:46:47.400 And I'm worried he will be devoured.
00:46:50.020 I hope he gets a good lawyer and I hope they fight back strategically.
00:46:52.900 But as you heard him say in our interview yesterday, he still didn't have a lawyer and
00:46:57.740 you need one if that's the field you're going to fight in.
00:47:02.380 Well, that's the show for today.
00:47:04.520 By the way, on YouTube today, we uploaded a 90 minute interview I did with Tommy Robinson.
00:47:11.440 I don't know if you remember, I was out of town a week or so ago.
00:47:15.000 I went to London just for the day to interview Tommy.
00:47:17.720 And I know some folks here, why are you always talking about Tommy?
00:47:19.800 Tommy this, Tommy that.
00:47:21.100 Well, because I see him as a canary in the coal mine.
00:47:23.340 What happens in the United Kingdom today will happen in Canada in five years and in the
00:47:28.920 United States in 10 years.
00:47:31.240 And so there's lessons there.
00:47:32.920 It's also a very interesting story.
00:47:34.520 What he went through in prison, how he was treated, how he was abused in prison in a
00:47:40.700 way that any other prisoner would have a human rights case immediately in a way as he, as
00:47:44.860 we talked about it, if he was starved for a week, not a morsel of food, he lost 40 pounds
00:47:51.160 in prison over two months.
00:47:52.500 You wouldn't treat a dog that way.
00:47:54.000 You wouldn't keep a dog in a small cage, no exercise, letting him out for only half an
00:47:58.000 hour to be screamed at.
00:47:59.240 You wouldn't treat a dog that way.
00:48:01.260 But he was treated that way.
00:48:02.320 If you haven't seen it yet, you can find it elsewhere on our website, various places,
00:48:06.940 our YouTube page.
00:48:07.960 I think we have it on Zype for our premium members and you can find it just on the rebel.media.
00:48:11.880 So I encourage you to watch that.
00:48:13.940 I mean, you know, pour yourself a drink of coffee or whatever, because it's a 90-minute
00:48:18.620 video.
00:48:19.780 And there's actually a longer two-hour version if you want every last bit that we cut out
00:48:24.560 for the shorter version.
00:48:25.420 But that's my interview with Tommy.
00:48:27.280 I think a lot of people will find it shocking.
00:48:29.400 I've heard these stories along the way and I've communicated with Tommy, obviously, a fair
00:48:32.640 bit in the last month.
00:48:33.860 So I'm no longer shocked by them, or I'm still shocked.
00:48:36.820 I'm no longer surprised by them.
00:48:38.060 I think you'll find them both.
00:48:39.860 That's our show for today.
00:48:41.080 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night and keep
00:48:45.720 fighting for free.
00:48:46.420 We'll be right back.