Rebel News Podcast - October 27, 2026


ONTARIO ELECTION NIGHT 2026 | Live results with David Menzies and Sue-Ann Levy

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00:00:00.720 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, good evening and welcome to the Rebel News live stream, Ontario Decides, Ontario Municipalities that is, not the province.
00:00:11.700 We already did that less than two years ago when Doug called that snap election in February.
00:00:17.680 I'm David Menzies coming to you from Rebel News World Headquarters somewhere in North Toronto.
00:00:22.960 And I'm absolutely delighted to have as my co-host, she is a legend, ladies and gentlemen.
00:00:30.580 She is the former city columnist for the Chwano Sun. 0.98
00:00:34.660 She was a pit bull. 1.00
00:00:36.580 Everybody feared her.
00:00:38.660 And she is now, well, she writes for our friends over at Juno News.
00:00:43.860 And I'm speaking of the lady to my right, Sue Ann Levy.
00:00:47.940 How are you doing, Sue Ann?
00:00:48.980 I'm doing great.
00:00:49.880 And the only thing, I was happy to come in and co-host with you, but you didn't get me a hat.
00:00:55.840 I needed a hat.
00:00:57.720 What's your head size?
00:00:59.660 Large.
00:01:01.880 Mostly because of ego.
00:01:03.540 It's for all those brains, I should think, you know.
00:01:06.080 And of course, the big kahuna in Ontario, as always, is Hogtown, Toronto. 1.00
00:01:13.160 But we have other stories elsewhere in the province. 0.97
00:01:17.100 You know, there are 444 municipalities in Ontario, if you can imagine.
00:01:24.460 And you know what, Sue Ann?
00:01:26.300 444.
00:01:27.200 Is there a more unlucky number than that in Asian culture? 0.71
00:01:32.000 Four is there as R13. 1.00
00:01:34.280 Eight is the good luck number.
00:01:36.180 So, geez, do you think that might bode badly for the incumbent, Olivia Chow?
00:01:41.360 Oh, I'm praying.
00:01:44.120 Let me tell you.
00:01:45.240 I was saying to you before we went on the air that I've never seen my community and I have
00:01:50.680 Jewed it up for tonight. Oh geez. Yeah my Jewish star that I just got in Israel last week but I've 0.92
00:01:57.700 never seen my community so revved up so pumped up so uh eager to get to the polls and vote
00:02:06.100 they are very disgusted with what become of Toronto. And you know um Sue Ann that's not um
00:02:14.260 conjecture we last week went to bathers and shepherd a very heavily jewish area with a big
00:02:20.620 beautiful billboard truck and we spent a few hours there asking people uh if you made up your mind
00:02:28.160 who you're voting for the consensus by a landslide abc anybody but chow you know only one person
00:02:38.420 said he's voting for chow and he didn't know why um but you know what here's the big question
00:02:45.780 su ann um we know it's kind of funny how three years ago olivia chow became mayor in the by-election
00:02:53.120 yeah also three years ago uh the most horrific single day massacre of jews in one day post the
00:03:00.960 holocaust october 7th 2023 and it's kind of perversely ironic isn't it that we got to see
00:03:09.320 olivia chow's commitment to the jewish community in this horribly dark period which was to say
00:03:17.980 no commitment she was uh awol at the walk with israel and only that i remember one year um lied
00:03:26.660 about it oh i didn't get the invite oh the invite went to spam oh i had a committee no she went on
00:03:33.040 a polar dip at the zoo oh is that what that was your excuse this year and the bike lane uh meeting
00:03:39.340 right yeah and um you know i'm calling bs on that sue m because even if she had forgotten
00:03:45.660 even if she never got the invitation her staff her inner circle would say now mayor chow keep in
00:03:54.740 mind October 7th huge date of importance the Toronto Jewish community is going to be having
00:04:01.020 all kinds of vigils they would have told her that and she snubbed the community here's my question
00:04:05.540 to you is this by design because it's nothing personal it's not being anti-semitic it's the
00:04:13.020 fact that the electoral math Sue Ann shows that there are what five times as many Muslims than
00:04:21.100 Jews and of course I'm not saying all Muslims are terrorist sympathizers absolutely not but I think
00:04:27.900 some politicians play those numbers like insurance actuaries and they go you know what this has
00:04:34.640 nothing to do with being on the right side of history this has everything to do with winning 1.00
00:04:40.000 is this why Olivia Chow for three years continued to snub the Jewish community well today that I 1.00
00:04:46.980 will call BS because she, you know, in the last couple of days kept saying we need to work 1.00
00:04:52.540 together. I'm the mayor of all, all, A-L-L, the people. So even if the demographics have told her
00:05:01.000 that you have to pander more to the Muslim community, if she's mayor of all the people,
00:05:06.680 then you don't snub the Jews. But it got worse, Dave, because as the campaign wore on, and I don't
00:05:14.200 know who she was getting advice from probably progress toronto awful group i agree as the
00:05:21.160 campaign got into its final week she made no um like she wasn't even covering the fact that she 0.95
00:05:30.420 preferred muslims she showed up with shmuttas on her head to different events she's uh cozied up 0.86
00:05:38.540 to Muhammad Fakha. 0.96
00:05:40.160 He was from Mississauga.
00:05:41.960 He's not even living in Toronto.
00:05:44.660 He has all those pyramid fine foods.
00:05:47.160 Yes. 1.00
00:05:47.540 And who said he did not want any Zionists, 0.73
00:05:51.500 meaning Jews,
00:05:52.760 in his restaurants.
00:05:54.560 So she made no secret
00:05:56.560 of the fact that she was... 0.92
00:05:59.560 No, Muhammad Fakha,
00:06:00.840 the last time I saw him indeed,
00:06:02.260 was in Toronto, Nathan Phillips Square.
00:06:04.340 I think it was a cold November day 1.00
00:06:06.100 for the raising of the Palestinian 1.00
00:06:08.300 Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, he got his way with her as well. But the other thing is, if you recall, she went out to, I believe it was Markham or Mississauga, and talked to the Muslim council. And at that point, that she didn't have to do that. But she said that she felt there was a genocide in Gaza, which is absolute crap.
00:06:33.560 Yeah, it's despicable. And one of the big races, of course, Sue Ann, is what's going on in 0.99
00:06:39.140 Mississauga, which turned into a cat fight. Can I say that? I think I just did. But it got very 0.92
00:06:46.600 personal. But you can say dog fight too, because I have dogs. Oh, okay. There you go. But the point
00:06:51.600 I'm making on the anti-Semitism file is there was a representative that asked three of the four
00:06:58.580 candidates running for mayor carolyn parish was awol but i know i know where she stands would you
00:07:04.660 support bds sanctions against apartheid israel as municipalities did decades ago against south
00:07:13.620 africa and they all answered yes it is gross israel is the opposite of an apartheid state i mean you 0.82
00:07:22.660 you have muslim arab members of the knesset can i tell you something i was just there a week ago 0.91
00:07:29.380 and i went on this fabulous hike with terror survivors it was very moving and the first day
00:07:35.700 it was very difficult we were going through boulders and stones i think the guy took us on
00:07:41.540 far too ambitious a trek and the medic who helped me get through the trail was from ethiopia yes a
00:07:51.380 black israeli and and there are all kinds of it's like israelis are not white they're not white
00:07:59.140 supremacists they're of all colors of all origins and i mean the narrative here the ignorance
00:08:08.100 about israel and soon if i can get personal if you don't mind um you have since come out you 0.99
00:08:14.100 are lesbian you forced me out long story sue ann levy once hated me folks i swear to god but 0.96
00:08:21.620 i won her over i'm the adorable one after all but what i'm getting at um you can be openly lesbian 0.98
00:08:29.060 in israel right israel is the only country in the middle east that has not one but two gay pride
00:08:35.460 parades and in jerusalem yet which is a very religious very religious absolutely but the show
00:08:41.700 goes on if sue ann levy you were go to gaza and you're open about your sexuality what happens
00:08:48.980 oh i i think from anything from having my hands cut off to being thrown off the building and it 0.73
00:08:55.220 has happened people have been hung who have been found to be gay so sue ann and i see them all the
00:09:01.620 time to israel by the way yeah to you know be able to express their sexuality openly yeah so so much 0.53
00:09:09.860 for the apartheid argument and by the way how do you react uh given your sexual orientation
00:09:17.300 when you see people as i have for three years at these pro-hammas demonstrations and they're 0.51
00:09:21.940 wearing shirts that say queers for palestine chickens for kfc that's what i say i mean 0.97
00:09:29.140 they're a bunch of kooks you know so i'm a real fan of gadsad who's written this book about suicide 0.81
00:09:37.380 empathy and the only way i can describe it is how he describes it in the book that they have this
00:09:43.780 extreme suicide empathy they side with people who would like to kill them yep and it's like
00:09:50.580 the oppression olympics gone wild i urge you folks to read suicidal empathy uh i think it's the most
00:10:00.900 important book of the year right uh the cover is brilliant it's a sheep holding a sign saying free
00:10:06.260 the wolves yeah and you know what so you know what the most chilling anecdote in that book was
00:10:11.940 it was a woman in a german city who was gang raped and when the police came to do the uh
00:10:21.780 and i can't think of anything worse than that maybe death um when the police came to do the
00:10:27.860 police work who what where when why you know all the questions one of the questions was what
00:10:34.420 language were they speaking and this woman said they were speaking german and later as the
00:10:41.940 investigation went on and they rounded up the guys guess what they spoke arabic and farsi
00:10:48.820 she was so concerned about being culturally insensitive to her rapists that she lied about
00:10:57.060 that listen we have been hearing all kinds of stories and of course we know what's going on
00:11:01.220 in europe but we've been hearing all kinds of stories for example of uh gay men even taking in
00:11:09.540 uh a refugee an african refugee just read one recently where he lived with them stole their
00:11:16.420 money and cut off their heads so this is what i call suicide empathy beyond the pale yeah it is 0.99
00:11:23.700 it's must reading folks and uh you know because basically what the title implies empathy suen 0.99
00:11:31.140 empathy is a good quality but it's not directed in the right way exactly you know you can have
00:11:37.220 empathy for gay people for people like me yes i can have empathy for the homeless in toronto which
00:11:43.220 i do the left would like to think i don't um but this is having empathy for people who want you
00:11:51.620 dead i don't understand it wow well you know what folks we're going to get into uh as many of these
00:11:58.380 elections as the night goes on the polls will be closing in 12 minutes and uh we have
00:12:05.580 who are you voting for you live in toronto yeah i voted for brad bradford okay there you go um
00:12:14.820 And we have all sorts of interesting cities.
00:12:19.000 Well, Karima Saad, our friend, independent journalist,
00:12:22.260 she's running in the Danforth.
00:12:25.780 Finally, the communist, Paula Fletcher, stepped down.
00:12:28.600 And by the way, oh, how dare David Menzies call her a communist?
00:12:32.220 No, she was the president of the Manitoba Communist Party.
00:12:36.320 Somehow that gets you a 20-year career in Toronto as a councillor.
00:12:40.260 Remember in City Hall, way back when they were doing the budget
00:12:43.840 and some guy got up to speak and she said come on down and tell me to my face
00:12:51.120 we also have some um here's a couple of interesting um citizens who are running
00:12:58.400 for city hall because you know the old adage you can't fight city hall we have martin ross in
00:13:03.840 markham he's running for mayor of markham it's an uphill struggle against the incumbent there
00:13:09.760 but the reason is so when the city declared war on his hockey rink they said you take that down
00:13:16.640 or we'll take it down and we'll charge you about a half a million to do so and that got us to
00:13:21.680 interrupt and we also have um uh who else do we have oh rick nichols the former ontario mpp
00:13:30.480 uh he wouldn't get the jab so naturally doug ford uh kicked him out of caucus and he's running as
00:13:37.200 a counselor in chatham uh where there's a real i think scandal we covered it last year of chatham
00:13:44.720 little chatham building this multi-million dollar taj mahal city hall when the one they have is
00:13:52.080 already beautiful this is unneeded there's all kinds of shenanigans there uh rick will fill us
00:13:58.160 in on that um what else do we have oh well your colleague at juno harrison faulkner yeah um we
00:14:05.440 We have John Mutton.
00:14:07.180 If you want to meet somebody who knows who's who in the zoo, it's Mr. Mutton.
00:14:13.760 He'll give us a rundown, especially in the east end of Toronto, Durham region.
00:14:18.900 Some very interesting races there.
00:14:21.200 Speaking of Durham region, Lisa Robinson.
00:14:24.360 Keep an edge, Lisa Robinson.
00:14:25.720 I said a story on her. 1.00
00:14:26.940 Well, I shouldn't laugh because this poor lady has had more than a year salary docked. 1.00
00:14:33.560 No, more than that. 1.00
00:14:34.700 Oh, I know.
00:14:35.020 and and i mean that mayor there who probably will get back in kevin ash yeah he was just terrible
00:14:41.820 to yeah so he's a good friend of doug ford's by the way who is kevin oh well they're all tight
00:14:48.380 am i surprised yeah um and uh oh this is a good one we we have scarlet grace um okay and um of
00:14:58.780 rebel news and uh your old colleague down at the toronto sun joe warmington he's gonna weigh in
00:15:04.620 on the mississauga race because that's where joe uh lives and if he can make sense in that for me
00:15:11.660 uh well there's a donut in it for joe because it's absolutely baffling and uh we also have uh
00:15:19.420 tamara ugolini uh she's the rebel news senior editor i think that means she can fire me i
00:15:24.940 better be on my best behavior with you sue ann okay and and i'll take over and i'll get a hat
00:15:31.740 yeah that's right i'll will you by hand and up first is our good friend at the ccfr the canadian
00:15:43.380 coalition for firearms rights that would be tracy wilson hey tracy what's your take on some of the
00:15:53.260 municipalities going to the polls i know your bailiwick is guns and gun rights and gun freedom
00:16:00.600 where do you weigh in on this race uh good to be with you david i hope you can hear me okay i'm
00:16:07.420 actually in a in the eastern suburb of ottawa orleans where we are at a watch party for our
00:16:14.860 local candidate matt rula he interestingly enough is one of the three people being targeted by
00:16:20.560 horizon ottawa the far left um third party political advertiser um but yeah i i actually
00:16:28.200 love municipal elections because it is the level of government where it can have the most direct
00:16:34.200 impact in your life in your day-to-day life so yeah i'm happy to join you here today i apologize
00:16:40.920 uh i'm not usually i'm usually i'm in my studio but i'm out cheering for matt lula and i'm uh
00:16:47.720 looking forward to the results tonight i'm glad i'm glad you said that that it has the most impact
00:16:53.240 because I spent 25 years covering City Hall in Toronto and I'd get so frustrated because
00:16:59.800 the number of people who came out to vote was always lower than any of the other elections and
00:17:05.480 people don't realize how much it impacts on your life now I'm hoping this election in Toronto and
00:17:11.800 some of the other cities much higher voter turn up and judging from the early early turnout the 0.70
00:17:18.520 early voting i think it's going to be higher yeah and you know tracy that is the question isn't it
00:17:24.440 i agree with you 100 local municipal candidates by the way including school trustees who almost
00:17:32.680 no one votes for and they're affecting education curriculum or education indoctrination as we've
00:17:39.480 seen in recent years but the the water you drink the snow plow services the the garbage pickup
00:17:46.760 you name it they directly affect you the most and planning and planning and what houses can be built
00:17:54.040 where you know that kind of thing and of course tracy you know because the left is
00:18:00.280 fond of saying that it's not the people who are making uh wreaking havoc um with violence in our
00:18:09.480 city and shooting up you know innocent people it's guns the guns are the problem yeah and you
00:18:16.360 You must have to fight this all the time.
00:18:19.740 Oh, I do.
00:18:20.460 I actually, yeah, it brings back a fond memory a few years back.
00:18:24.060 Ottawa City Councillor Ralston King was holding, this was during the Trudeau time,
00:18:29.160 when Trudeau was talking about letting municipalities choose whether or not they could ban handguns within their region.
00:18:38.380 And Ralston King held a rally in Ottawa to support a ban on legal handguns, not crime guns, not criminals' guns,
00:18:45.420 just the legal gun owners in uh in ottawa and of course there's 60 000 people in ottawa who
00:18:51.080 legally own handguns so i go down to city halls and do a counter protest and i can't find it
00:18:56.380 anywhere all there was was a protest against bottled water so we're looking around for this
00:19:03.200 we're looking around for this anti-gun protest and i'm watching the the anti-bottle water people
00:19:09.980 do their protest and when they were done
00:19:12.940 they flipped the sign around
00:19:14.300 and on the other side of the sign
00:19:16.180 was a symbol of a handgun with a line through it
00:19:19.180 so he was literally
00:19:21.040 recycling, not recycling water bottles
00:19:23.260 recycling protesters
00:19:24.720 so we had a good laugh at that
00:19:26.700 they're all professionals protesters
00:19:28.200 and I've seen so many of the same faces
00:19:31.320 at Toronto City Hall
00:19:32.860 forget about the protesters
00:19:34.240 what about the political elites and even the police
00:19:36.800 ladies I've got a story
00:19:38.600 i think tops that one tracy about 20 years ago i was writing for the western standard when ezra
00:19:43.720 published it back then and i did a little story it was a city of toronto program uh that the
00:19:49.640 toronto police i think 52 division was running and you came out to dundas and university and
00:19:56.040 the name of the program was gun play no way and you turn in a firearm and you get a politically
00:20:05.640 correct toy like a nerf ball oh i forgot one detail tracy the guns they were confiscating
00:20:12.840 were toy guns squirt guns you know i'm not kidding so you see the indoctrination the anti-gun bias
00:20:21.240 right to you know from the earliest ages where you're telling kids this is a wicked toy you
00:20:27.400 should turn it into police and they'll give you a foam rubber toy instead your thoughts
00:20:31.720 yeah i mean it is indoctrination i mean my kids will have beautiful memories growing up of spending
00:20:38.760 saturday and sunday afternoons at the range with me um my kids grew up hunting and sports shooting
00:20:44.680 it's a safe uh family activity and of course as you know my youngest daughter actually went
00:20:50.680 on to join the military and she's currently deployed right now oh i'm on a live stream and
00:20:55.960 and I've got Matt Lulock.
00:20:58.840 Hey, hi, how are you?
00:21:01.240 Yeah, that's Matt.
00:21:03.100 So he's ready for re-election here in Orleans, East Cumberland.
00:21:08.820 Hello, Rebel Nation.
00:21:09.880 Hey, how you doing, Matt?
00:21:12.520 Yeah, so he's got his own paparazzi following him around too.
00:21:16.420 So we're having a good time here.
00:21:18.060 Well, hopefully it's going to turn into a victory party for you and Matt.
00:21:21.600 I think it will.
00:21:22.760 You know, there's a couple of watches, races that we'll be really watching tonight.
00:21:28.240 Of course, that's the Ottawa mayor race.
00:21:30.840 I cannot wait to hopefully see Jeff Leifer be unemployed. 0.98
00:21:34.800 And then, of course, in Toronto, I would love nothing more after that big win in BC to see Olivia Chow head off to retirement.
00:21:43.840 Oh, my God.
00:21:44.580 I've been praying for two days. 0.97
00:21:47.400 Your lips to God's ears, Sue Ann. 0.93
00:21:49.740 I'm sorry?
00:21:50.620 Yeah.
00:21:51.400 And Tracy, of course, the frontrunner for Olivia's job is Brad Bradford.
00:21:55.140 Has he stated anything about firearms?
00:21:58.840 I mean, he's got a common sense approach like most normal people would have, right?
00:22:02.780 We all know, and anybody with a working frontal lobe knows that it is criminals and crime guns,
00:22:11.000 smuggled illegal guns from the United States that is the source of violence in this country.
00:22:15.540 Everybody knows it, and he knows it too.
00:22:17.760 So, yeah, I would just love to see a serious person in city council in Toronto instead of the lap dancing mayor.
00:22:25.840 But I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. 1.00
00:22:28.160 I call her the dancing queen. 0.99
00:22:29.380 That's my nickname for her. 0.94
00:22:30.980 She's the dancing queen.
00:22:32.480 And you know, Tracy, I think what affects all citizens, given what's happened to the once beautiful city of my birth,
00:22:39.320 I've lived here with the exception of four years, all of my 64 years, it's not the same Toronto.
00:22:47.040 it's violent there's gun crime there's a record gun uh uh sorry a crime wave going on
00:22:54.440 in your wheelhouse Tracy I think one of the things you would be concerned about and we've
00:23:00.540 seen many stories the last couple years homeowners defending themselves not necessarily with a gun
00:23:07.200 sometimes it's a knife sometimes it's just physical violence to a home invader in the
00:23:13.080 wee hours and they get charged and to me our castle domain laws are a joke i know that's not
00:23:20.360 a municipal issue it's a federal issue pierre poliev is on record god bless him as saying
00:23:26.060 he would change it so that even lethal force would be allowed because right now it's you can use force
00:23:33.260 but it can't be unreasonable well tracy first of all define unreasonable and secondly at three in
00:23:40.820 morning if someone's breaking in to your house armed with a crossbow or whatever are you thinking
00:23:47.620 hmm let's see what can i do to fight back uh the wooden kitchen spoon or is that too excessive 0.96
00:23:54.180 this is gross and the police made an ass out of themselves last year when that sergeant said you 0.81
00:24:00.260 know what put the keys yeah leave the key fob at the door we don't want to deal with that messy 0.98
00:24:04.660 crime scene cleanup just let them take away your six-figure wheels what say you tracy 0.53
00:24:09.700 i mean look it is the most basic uh human right of any canadian regardless of where you live
00:24:16.780 that you should have the ability to defend your life and those in your care so for anybody to
00:24:23.360 say any different is absolutely insane and look i said this the other day on our podcast most
00:24:28.820 people will never experience a violent home armed home invasion most of us will not and that's that's
00:24:34.400 great but for those that have experienced it and we see the videos all the time particularly in the
00:24:40.260 GTA um for those people they thought that too until that moment happened to them so I you know
00:24:46.580 I I don't think it's unreasonable in fact it's entirely reasonable to want to be able to protect
00:24:53.320 your family the people that you love and that are in your care and you know at the end of the day
00:24:58.660 the very best way to avoid getting shot by a homeowner is to stop breaking into their house 1.00
00:25:04.800 great point and you know suen and tracy um people are just like animals in the animal kingdom 0.79
00:25:11.680 when an animal faces a predator there's two options fight or flight and i would argue when
00:25:19.240 you are in your own house you have crossed the finish line there's nowhere to run what are you
00:25:26.160 supposed to do, but fight back with lethal force if necessary.
00:25:31.800 Yeah, 100%. And I mean, it is, you're right, it is the most
00:25:35.880 basic instinct. It has to be a right. It is actually a writing
00:25:40.080 candidates protected under Section 34, the criminal code.
00:25:43.800 But of course, the process is the punishment. And anytime that
00:25:47.460 something like this happens, and somebody defends their life, of
00:25:50.380 course, they are charged. And you know, it ruins your life.
00:25:54.060 Most average people aren't going to have $60,000 laying around in a spare bank account to put towards a defense fund, right?
00:26:03.320 But, I mean, at the end of the day, the most important thing is that you survive it, and the people that you love survive it.
00:26:09.120 So, whatever it takes, you must come out on top of that, 100%.
00:26:13.540 Sue Ann, Tracy, last question goes to you, my friend.
00:26:18.120 Who's going to win in Toronto, Tracy?
00:26:20.020 see i would love to see brad bradford win that's of course what i think we're all hoping for
00:26:26.020 um i don't know the polls are back and forth i don't know if i uh you know i can't say i i believe
00:26:32.560 them when they're good for us and i don't believe them when they're not that would be hypocritical
00:26:36.660 um i am really worried about olivia chow being re-elected but i can tell you right now that
00:26:42.800 everybody i know is cheering hard for brad bradford in toronto yeah yeah i've never seen people so
00:26:49.100 illuminated and so invested in an election yes i agree it's always a pleasure i know lady menzoid
00:26:56.540 is watching at home she's a huge fan of yours she loves her too well she loves your farrah
00:27:01.660 faucet hair she can't she's obsessed with it so uh beauty and brains in one package thank you so
00:27:07.980 much tracy wilson thanks guys enjoyed the rest of the night thank you fantastic and that's tracy 0.68
00:27:13.180 wilson with the ccfr i'm not making that up to it lady menzoid is obsessed with tracy wilson's hair
00:27:19.900 and she's obsessed with sydney sweeney's breasts do you think she's switching teams on me uh i hate 1.00
00:27:26.540 to tell you but you already have i knew it i knew there was something fishy uh but uh that was great
00:27:37.260 I mean, you know, guns aren't really a municipal issue, but given the crime wave, Sue Ann, they kind of are, if you want to protect yourself.
00:27:45.800 They are because our political leaders are always blaming guns, the access to guns, rather than the actual criminals.
00:27:59.000 And instead of tough consequences, they want to give them more basketball courts and get to the root cause of crime.
00:28:05.700 And Olivia was saying this 25 years ago and is still saying the same thing.
00:28:10.540 It makes me nuts.
00:28:12.640 You know something, Sue Ann, sometimes that's where the violence begins, on the basketball court.
00:28:19.260 So I don't know how that's a solution.
00:28:22.120 But folks, we're going to carry on here.
00:28:24.020 By the way, polls just closed four minutes ago.
00:28:26.960 How do you like that?
00:28:28.000 We'll see how fast the results come in.
00:28:29.940 I remember Rob Ford in his first term.
00:28:32.580 By 8.30.
00:28:33.620 Yeah, I think it was earlier.
00:28:35.220 I think it was like 10 minutes.
00:28:36.920 Yeah.
00:28:37.180 Remember George Smitherman on the cover of Toronto Life?
00:28:39.740 Your next mayor, you know.
00:28:41.700 Do you know I was in the CBC studio when that happened? 1.00
00:28:44.740 I've never seen such white faces in all my life. 1.00
00:28:47.840 It was quite amusing. 0.97
00:28:49.460 I enjoyed every minute of it.
00:28:51.320 I wish I was there.
00:28:52.840 Well, folks, our next guest is my beloved colleague, Scarlett Grace. 0.99
00:28:57.780 She's just hitting it out of the ballpark these days.
00:29:00.660 She is somewhere in the Peterborough area.
00:29:04.340 and um scarlet are you there for us oh there you are um scarlet what's happening in your neck of
00:29:12.640 the woods municipality wise audio problems okay can you hear me yes i thought we're going back
00:29:28.400 to the early 70s with party game the charade show that's before your time of course scarlet
00:29:33.320 i don't even know what you're talking about so charlotte what is happening out in your neck 0.97
00:29:39.980 of the woods what's an interesting storyline in the peterborough area yeah i hate to be so ignorant
00:29:46.020 david but i couldn't really tell you um my focus really has been on toronto and this whole thing
00:29:51.680 uh i'm not directly in the peterborough area anymore i'm out in the boonies where it's pretty
00:29:57.140 inconsequential what happens so my focus really has been just on the big one on toronto and
00:30:02.400 And what's going to happen there tonight?
00:30:04.720 Fair enough.
00:30:05.580 And I'll hand it over to Sue Ann after I ask you this question.
00:30:10.400 Who's going to win?
00:30:13.520 I'm putting out good energy tonight.
00:30:15.340 I'm putting out good energy. 1.00
00:30:16.580 So anybody but chow. 1.00
00:30:17.940 Anybody but chow.
00:30:19.700 There you go. 0.87
00:30:20.580 ABC.
00:30:21.400 ABC.
00:30:22.180 Yes.
00:30:22.960 But I don't want one of those 100. 1.00
00:30:24.700 There's a woman who's running.
00:30:26.360 And this just shows you how the Islamists who hate my community have gotten themselves into school board politics and municipal politics.
00:30:40.000 There's a woman who's running. 1.00
00:30:41.480 She's a crazy engineer, Basira. 1.00
00:30:43.960 I can't pronounce her last name. 1.00
00:30:45.800 But she was going around saying if she wins as mayor, she's going to throw all the Jews out of Toronto, make them exit from Toronto. 0.99
00:30:53.900 Oh, yeah. 0.93
00:30:54.180 I missed that one. 1.00
00:30:55.000 Well, you know, nobody's paying much attention to her because she's such a whack job.
00:31:00.380 But I mean, the very fact that she's running and saying this and she feels no, you know, any sense of decorum to keep her mouth shut really shocks me.
00:31:15.720 and scarlett you have done a stellar job covering the pro-hamas demonstrations and the anti-iranian
00:31:23.640 regime demonstrations you have seen the hatred out there from a ringside seat sometimes you're
00:31:30.440 the victim of that hatred what's going on in toronto in the dominion of canada in 2026
00:31:37.960 just pure madness something that you wouldn't believe and something that i think a lot of
00:31:42.920 people who don't experience it and aren't out in the streets like we are probably don't believe
00:31:48.040 because they're in their living rooms at home watching the cbc and if you don't have kind of
00:31:54.580 a front row seat to the actual madness the police bias the chaos in our streets i mean how would you
00:32:01.480 know about it and how would you believe it and people are very much sheltered they're in their
00:32:06.480 own little bubbles it's so true but i'll tell you uh when we were in israel last week they know
00:32:13.320 what's going on they were asking me how i'm coping and how we are coping with the anti-semitism but
00:32:21.440 you're right cbc uh ctv even uh it's gone you know rogue and they don't cover this stuff at all
00:32:31.840 And I keep saying to people, you have no idea what's going on in the streets of Toronto.
00:32:37.240 It really is all thanks to Twitter and the internet that we can share our true experience of being in Toronto.
00:32:44.580 Because otherwise, my neighbours out here, like I said, I'm out in the country, they have no idea what's really going on.
00:32:49.820 Not a clue.
00:32:51.340 And, you know, I think the jump the shark moment for the CBC came last month, didn't it?
00:32:56.940 the grim 25th anniversary of 9-11 and a memo went out by the head honcho in the journalism
00:33:04.740 department do not use the t word terrorism scarlet grace if 9-11 doesn't meet the benchmark
00:33:13.200 of terrorism if october 7th doesn't meet the benchmark of terrorism what does nothing nothing
00:33:21.040 does then we just have to pretend that it doesn't exist well they they have this expression scarlet 0.75
00:33:26.920 and Dave, first they come for the Jews and then they come for the Sunday people and the people
00:33:34.940 who are living in denial and sometimes they think I'm a little crazy, but I'm not. I'm just realistic.
00:33:42.420 You're ahead of the curve.
00:33:43.700 Yeah.
00:33:44.220 Yeah. I am 100% with that, Sue Ann. I believe the Jews historically, that's the canary in the coal
00:33:51.820 mine right and the idea that oh something's happening way over there oh
00:33:58.120 I'm not Jewish whatever the excuses this hatred does catch up to you because when
00:34:05.620 they go through one victim group they need a new one well they're burning
00:34:08.440 church I mean look at all the churches that are being burned down and look
00:34:13.440 what's happening in France and I mean they're not only going after Jews 0.63
00:34:20.620 they're looting stores high-end stores and you know that's a good point Scarlett what's happening
00:34:27.900 in France Ezra has an excellent piece up to date basically Paris is gone and unfortunately I believe
00:34:34.820 he's right but the media narrative if you were to listen to the CBCs of the world this is about
00:34:41.600 student fees and school supply Scarlett what's really going on in France I mean they all just
00:34:49.280 really want new books david of course that's why they're burning everything it makes sense right
00:34:54.600 too bad that book is mine camp but you know that's another well they're awfully old for students and
00:35:01.700 they have you know these bushy beards and they look rather scary i mean i students would be what
00:35:08.780 16 17 18 yeah oh and and you know there's a video too uh scarlet i don't know if you saw it was
00:35:15.280 posted very recently, our beloved she-devil, Alexa Lavoie, getting harassed by migrants
00:35:24.940 for the egregious crime of filming in public. They were saying, you don't have my permission.
00:35:33.420 Guess what? When you're in public, don't need permission. There's no expectation of privacy.
00:35:38.720 And what we're seeing in France, I don't know, ladies, are we maybe five, ten years behind that?
00:35:46.040 Not five. 0.95
00:35:47.160 I have to agree.
00:35:48.800 If Mark Carney keeps cozying up to the European Union, we're not five years behind.
00:35:54.280 And, you know, Scarlett, I want to get your viewpoint on this.
00:35:57.940 Again, you were too young to endure Trudeau I, Pierre Elliott Trudeau as our prime minister.
00:36:04.400 but it was the early 70s that canada brought in official state-sanctioned multiculturalism
00:36:11.040 and the unspoken deal was come from wherever in the world you hail take advantage of the canadian
00:36:18.560 dream take advantage of all our social programs from unemployment insurance to welfare here's
00:36:25.840 the quid pro quo behave yourself obey the law don't import centuries-old hatreds to our dominion
00:36:35.440 and i would say scarlett and i want to get your thoughts on this that what we've seen in the
00:36:40.880 streets of canada and elsewhere these last three years has proven that multiculturalism
00:36:47.680 has been a complete and utter failure i mean i don't know how you can disagree again you all
00:36:55.200 all you have to do is walk downtown you got to go down to dundas square on a on a saturday on
00:37:00.720 the weekend and and hear the cries for antifada there's your proof yeah antifada amazing and
00:37:07.920 sometimes uh wouldn't it be nice to walk downtown and oh i don't know see people
00:37:12.420 displaying a canadian flag but that's too much of an ask scarlet i know you have to go you're
00:37:18.160 working on something uh terrific so thank you so much uh for uh joining us do you have a parting
00:37:25.180 question for scarlet grace i have a parting comment actually i'd like to share if you don't
00:37:30.480 mind um my my boyfriend just went to go vote in toronto he is a new canadian new citizen his first
00:37:37.580 time voting right so he goes there all his papers id everything citizenship prepared to show it
00:37:43.040 and nobody asked for his citizenship his license is enough and when he asked uh don't you guys need
00:37:50.480 proof of citizenship or anything first of all the people there could barely speak english the people
00:37:55.940 who are working at the voting polls he said could barely speak english he spoke it better than they
00:38:00.500 did and he said uh that they said one even said the regulation does not require that now maybe
00:38:07.240 they have their other ways of checking citizenship if they have your name but even the mere fact
00:38:13.260 that the workers there had a hard time communicating with him is cause for concern no
00:38:18.960 unbelievable but again it's like customs at the airport though you come in
00:38:25.380 yep not a caucasian in sight so you know i i my example would be about 10 years ago when rebel
00:38:34.220 news first started scarlett before you're with us uh in york region i went to vote i think it
00:38:39.620 was a federal election i was wearing a full-on burka and um and had a little handbag and the
00:38:50.320 we were pointing out the flaw in the system which was this do you have photo id and i said yes and
00:38:56.480 i showed my driver's license but they did not ask me to unveil i could have been anyone under that
00:39:03.700 fabric you have a card yeah yeah so uh it's just you know i'm not surprised well scarlett um uh
00:39:11.460 thank you so much for weighing in and uh we'll uh we'll see what happens in toronto you're you're
00:39:16.260 picking bradford right fingers crossed okay bradford for you too no i want that basira lady
00:39:25.060 i've already picked her bye scarlett you know i'll tell you i can tell you uh suanne
00:39:32.660 my heart is with bradford by the way he's not mr perfect no no listen i covered him
00:39:37.940 for many many years at city hall i mean he voted uh you know to rename young dundas square for
00:39:44.260 example he voted for a a decrease in the police budget um he's uh a lot of people think he's a
00:39:50.580 conservative he's a liberal yeah um but um i i guess his election slogan could be um vote for me 0.55
00:39:58.180 i suck less than olivia well you know that's exactly it and he has had our backs now i was
00:40:06.740 screamed at by somebody on social media that this isn't a one issue um race that it's not all about 0.99
00:40:14.980 the jewish community but olivia has caused a terrible decline in the quality of life in this
00:40:22.900 city it's not just the pally and the terrorist sympathizers but i've been downtown drug addicts
00:40:30.020 lying in the street homeless people in front of fancy stores it just looks dirty you know and so 0.96
00:40:36.820 let's talk about that um certainly this is not all of olivia chow's fault um no the same uh rubbish
00:40:44.580 happened under the quizzling john tory um but you know you know by the way he started the decline
00:40:52.820 she just exacerbated it a hundred percent and i remember toronto when it was called toronto the
00:41:00.340 good yes people city i remember peter usunoff saying toronto is new york as run by the swiss
00:41:09.060 now it's i guess new york is run by somalia i suppose i don't know um the the dirt on the
00:41:16.500 street i mean it looks like the whole city needs sandblasting and the litter the graffiti needles
00:41:22.580 in the park homeless encampments in baseball diamonds um what record is olivia chow running
00:41:31.220 on and of course a record crime wave and and and the cost of living you know the the saddest thing
00:41:38.080 went up 20 in three years and what do we see for our 20 nothing that's an excellent point uh almost
00:41:45.920 20 in three years in property taxes where'd the money go and you know the saddest thing i can say
00:41:52.140 about Toronto, too expensive to drive a car in, too dangerous to take public transit.
00:41:59.660 I rarely take the TTC because of that reason. Yeah, I have taken the Eglinton LRT. I had to
00:42:09.180 take it because we suffered through 12 years of construction. But yeah, you're right. And then
00:42:15.420 you drive downtown and you got it a lot an extra half hour just to get i mean my wife and i take
00:42:22.540 ubers if we're going to some sort of entertainment because if you have to run around trying to find
00:42:28.060 parking you could make yourself crazy yeah it's um and and remember how the city was originally
00:42:34.300 against uber yeah um and well i guess against progress too um now we're we're going to be test
00:42:42.060 marketing the waymo cars the driverless cars are are you happy with that are you i don't know about
00:42:48.620 that you know what sue and the way some people drive in the city yeah i think a driverless car
00:42:53.980 is a step up well i can speak from experience to having i did not have thought this summer because
00:43:01.020 my bike was not working but i have an e-bike and i bike downtown all the time in the summer
00:43:07.580 because i couldn't stand the idea of driving and i certainly wasn't going on the ttc
00:43:12.140 yeah and isn't that so sad it never ever used to be this the kids don't believe me
00:43:18.140 yeah but it used to be a clean safe city can i tell you something when i was covering city hall
00:43:23.820 in 2018 i did a story on seattle and all the problems there encampments drug issues all kinds
00:43:33.100 of stuff and I said Toronto was a couple of years away from Seattle. What made you think that way?
00:43:40.460 I could just see the decline. I could see successive mayors were not spending money on
00:43:47.820 things that they should have been spending money in like infrastructure and the basics
00:43:55.900 and I have to tell you like despite everything they threw at him Rob Ford actually had the right
00:44:02.140 idea. He was trying to deal with the basics. And then subsequently, John Tory, you know,
00:44:10.360 he didn't deal with, I covered Toronto Community Housing a lot. They had a lot of empty units.
00:44:17.100 And I used to go after him and say, what are you going to do about filling these units? And he'd
00:44:21.180 talk a good game, but it would never happen. You know, John Tory is amazing. You know,
00:44:27.500 finally the guy actually won something he became the mayor of Toronto right and and John Tory is
00:44:35.240 the reason we have Olivia Chow because he resigned he was chasing uh uh don't say it
00:44:42.360 I won't say her name around the cottage his words um and you know what the funny thing is
00:44:48.260 if he just did a mea culpa I think lapses a morality I think the electorate accepts that
00:44:55.620 today right look at bill clinton for example right so he didn't have to step down but it just it's
00:45:03.300 he could have seen his term out i think there was more to it than that oh yeah i think the budget
00:45:08.420 was injured as we say in yiddish it was going you know he he was running these huge deficits
00:45:15.140 during covid he did a lot of stuff spent a lot of money on things when people weren't paying
00:45:21.140 attention like bike lanes on university and you know i would write about that stuff and he'd be
00:45:27.940 perennially mad at me for writing about that stuff mad at you for doing your job yeah wow well and
00:45:34.900 then his mistress gets a cushy job at maple leaf sports and entertainment but it was worth it the
00:45:38.900 leafs keep winning stanley cups yeah not um anyways folks um we have a wonderful individual right now
00:45:47.380 this is a guy when it comes to ontario politics he really knows who's who in the zoo and i'm speaking
00:45:53.700 of john mutton which used to be the mayor of clarington do we have hey john how you doing
00:46:00.980 i'm doing well the last time i saw you it was in an oshawa courthouse somebody was trying to get a
00:46:06.180 restraining order or a piece against you uh built on a complete fabrication um i think that we're
00:46:13.300 back in court in uh december on that is that correct yeah absolutely and i think um it had a
00:46:19.140 a lot to play in this election out here in clarington where we have our final results
00:46:23.380 already oh break the news for us john tom dang wall is the new mayor of the municipality of
00:46:30.980 clarington wow yes that whole manufactured islamophobia victimhood that the incumbent
00:46:41.700 um you know ran on uh and it was all based on a lie i'm speaking of that um uh you know
00:46:48.880 muslim uh farmer hobby farmer he said he was only slaughtering um ducks and geese for his own family
00:46:56.400 just one problem uh the internet is forever and we have facebook ads where he's selling it
00:47:01.460 to the public yeah all the licenses and they doubled down and tripled down uh on his victimhood
00:47:09.600 They had a rally with all these liberals from outside of the region coming in to decry Islamophobia.
00:47:17.440 John, what was your take on that?
00:47:20.400 Was that a huge gamble that just blew up in the mayor's face?
00:47:25.000 Oh, I think it was one of the greatest political backfires of all time. 0.98
00:47:29.640 You know, and levying the claim that Clarington residents are racist is ridiculous.
00:47:38.380 there's there's um flarington residents aren't racist um and the only thing that we had was a
00:47:45.260 case of um political gaslighting out here to pander for votes and um as you know soon um the
00:47:53.060 islamic community out here um didn't even support um the um the goose killer and um they turned
00:48:01.080 their they turned their back on the uh on the mayor as well and as you can see tom got 53.1 0.65
00:48:07.140 percent and um that's a that's a that's a good victory for him it is a good victory it's a solid
00:48:13.780 victory and um that you know out here uh uh foster was mayor for 16 years and um he raised taxes
00:48:24.740 every year and i'll give you an example when i was mayor i was elected for uh for nine years
00:48:30.580 And we decreased taxes for four years in a row. 0.61
00:48:36.220 And so they also gave themselves a 42% increase in salaries over the past term, which is, you know, absolutely ridiculous.
00:48:49.240 So residents couldn't afford this mayor anymore.
00:48:52.220 And, you know, usually with an incumbent, people think about, well, you know, I'm worried about change.
00:48:59.160 I'm worried about change, but not this time around because the residents just said, I don't think I can afford to keep this mayor here any longer.
00:49:07.120 And Tom, former Durham Regional Police Homicide Detective, former Durham Regional Police Professional Standards, he knows his law and order.
00:49:19.660 And he is a he's a great family man. He's going to be one heck of a good mayor for our municipality.
00:49:25.800 Well, that's good to hear, John. And by the way, is he going to do anything? I know one of the issues out there, and we did a story with you, is that festering dangerous eyesore, the former Goodyear plant, which has been abandoned for some 10 years now. What's his take on that?
00:49:45.180 Well, I think you're going to see him do something immediately as soon as he takes office with respect to making sure the court order is carried out on the property.
00:49:56.840 I would even go so far because they continue to have activity on the property, even with the court order.
00:50:02.420 And there's two roads that lead to the property.
00:50:04.360 If I were him, I would declare both those roads half load.
00:50:09.560 So construction trucks can't go up and down their construction material as well.
00:50:14.900 I think he's got a big job in speaking to Todd McCarthy because Todd really hasn't been anywhere with respect to the environment issue.
00:50:26.620 Now, he's the minister of the environment.
00:50:28.920 And we've got one of the largest environmental catastrophes sitting right here in his backyard.
00:50:37.480 And he hasn't been there.
00:50:38.680 so unbelievable so yeah well i heard a lot about you at juno news um from melanie
00:50:47.480 yes she's wonderful yeah yeah she's a great gal she's done very very well um i'm sort of like the
00:50:55.320 senior op-ed writer so yes yes everybody bows to me no i'm kidding um but i i my ears perked up when
00:51:06.920 you said about the increase in salaries and this is what happens when people are in power for too
00:51:12.760 long not everybody but i mean having covered toronto city hall you're they get very full of
00:51:19.560 themselves and they think they're worth do you know how much toronto city councillors are making
00:51:24.100 right now do you have any idea 170 000 i was guessing 160 yeah so um the um out here there
00:51:34.200 There's been some recent stories in the press regarding salaries.
00:51:41.720 And Durham region has ranked some of the highest mayoral and council salaries, which is unheard of.
00:51:48.800 Now, I know over in one of David's favourite municipalities, the town of Whitby.
00:51:56.040 So I remember back when I was mayor, Marcel Brunel was the mayor of Whitby.
00:52:00.860 And no one likes to deal with salaries when you're in public office.
00:52:04.420 You just don't.
00:52:05.380 So a report comes forward.
00:52:07.460 You've got to vote on your own salary.
00:52:09.700 But they made it go away because Marcel put in that we remain the average of the Lakeshore municipalities.
00:52:16.760 And it just be reflected in the bylaw.
00:52:19.300 However, there's been some things like that going on with respect to they get the same increase as the staff.
00:52:27.400 But they also have that you must remain at the 75th percentile, which really increases the salaries.
00:52:35.060 And it comes in a bylaw and the bylaw doesn't have a report with it.
00:52:39.360 So basically, the salary increases go unreported.
00:52:42.960 And that's why they're able to run away with salaries over $300,000 for mares out here.
00:52:49.760 Kevin Ash. 1.00
00:52:50.640 Well, poor Lisa Robertson was being cut off from her salary for God knows.
00:52:55.740 Kevin Ash is making over 300 grand.
00:52:58.920 Wow.
00:52:59.560 Well, I know both of them.
00:53:03.000 I know both of them well.
00:53:05.180 And the integrity commissioner that handled everything has since resigned in many municipalities across Ontario.
00:53:12.680 And my position is that as a member of council elected by the public, they should not have any say in your salary, suspending your salary.
00:53:21.980 That's up to the electorate every four years to say if I want you to be continue or not.
00:53:27.860 And I'm not sure if you folks know, because I know the same balloting procedure was taking place in Oshawa.
00:53:34.240 I haven't seen the results there yet, but we we think that's going to be an interesting race over there with Tito, Dante, Mayor and Pietri likely to take the mayor's position.
00:53:45.380 I don't know if you have those results there or not.
00:53:47.440 or not yet john in fact you know uh durham region which is east of toronto that's your uh
00:53:54.480 your hood if you will so and it did well we've seen the regime change if you will in clarington
00:54:01.200 but what about the other major cities such as uh pickering oshawa ajax whitby any thoughts on
00:54:07.200 what's going to happen yeah i think um i think kevin remains um in the um in the marriage chair
00:54:13.600 in pickering and i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you this is very interesting um because um he's got um
00:54:20.560 there's going to be an anti uh kevin asphalt for sure um and there's going to we're going to get
00:54:26.320 to see a true number in terms of what the i i don't know if you want to call it alt-right or
00:54:33.360 whatever but they're going to be lining up behind lisa robinson and some of the issues that she had
00:54:38.000 We're going to get to see a real true number of what that level of support is in a GTA municipality, which is going to be very interesting for the future, for future elections.
00:54:49.760 And if you did not want to vote for Kevin, if you did not want to vote for Lisa, there were a couple of other alternatives.
00:54:57.860 So the anti-Kevin vote would be split over there.
00:55:01.560 That's why I believe that Kevin's getting back in.
00:55:04.080 In Ajax, Marilyn Crawford versus Ashmed Khan.
00:55:08.440 I believe that Marilyn has had the profile and that she will be getting in as the mayor of Ajax.
00:55:15.100 Over in Whitby, we know that we had a dogfight between Chris Leahy and Liz Roy.
00:55:24.100 My gut feeling is that Liz Roy is going to get back in.
00:55:28.780 And that's not because Chris wasn't a good candidate.
00:55:32.080 Chris brought out all the issues regarding the million-dollar door
00:55:36.500 that they paid for at Durham Region, these refrigerators.
00:55:41.560 But the only reason that I think it didn't resonate as much
00:55:44.820 is that mayors the second time around, after they're elected,
00:55:48.080 their re-election, they usually get an easy go the second time around.
00:55:51.880 The public usually give them another chance at it.
00:55:54.360 It's not usually to your third election where you're really facing problems.
00:55:59.020 So that's going to be interesting.
00:56:01.000 I haven't seen the numbers yet, but obviously, you know, we've got fiscal responsibility and against against, you know, some of the spending issues over in Whitby and that resonated with Durham region and that in the million dollar door.
00:56:16.300 Oshawa, Tito Dante Marampietre.
00:56:20.360 He's been a long term regional councillor.
00:56:22.760 He's been chair of economic development.
00:56:24.560 um i believe that uh tito is going to my guess was that tito was going to get somewhere around
00:56:31.100 50 of the vote he has uh two councillors running against him and a ragtag bunch of others he's got
00:56:37.840 um jim lee a former um uh president of the international firefighters association
00:56:44.920 nationally running against him but jim's about 80 years old and he just had his first term on
00:56:50.660 council um i don't think the the public are going to put their trust in him tito's you know i think
00:56:56.500 tito's in his 40s he's um tito is uh like he ran for the liberals one time but he's one of the
00:57:03.380 most fiscally responsible counselors that i know of so when tito was on council in oshawa a few
00:57:10.100 years ago he brought in an auditor general the auditor general saved so much money reducing
00:57:15.620 duplication finding issues and then when john henry the uh recently fired uh chair of durham
00:57:23.540 region by the premier um when he was mayor um he fired the auditor general because the auditor
00:57:31.460 general found out that they had spent something like 3.7 million dollars on a works depot that
00:57:37.380 wasn't necessary and tito got martyrized over that one so he's he's a voice of fiscal responsibility
00:57:44.900 he came forward with Chris Leahy to bring in an Auditor General at the regional level, which is
00:57:51.540 much needed. And so I think Tito's going to be in over there. He's got the support of building
00:57:58.360 trades. He's got the support of the development community. And everyone knows the Mayor and
00:58:04.280 Pietri's in Oshawa. And his father used to work for the region. So I think he's got a good shot
00:58:09.600 there. I don't think there's going to be any changes in North Durham. Brock have a new mayor,
00:58:14.540 Mike Jubb, because the last mayor, he had resigned midterm.
00:58:18.360 He seems to be doing a good job.
00:58:19.980 So I don't think there's going to be any changes there.
00:58:22.940 Uxbridge, Dave Barton, he's been there for eight years.
00:58:26.480 And I don't think there's going to be any change there,
00:58:28.520 although he has a former member of council, Ted Eng,
00:58:30.940 and somebody else running against him.
00:58:32.860 I see him staying put.
00:58:34.520 And Wilma Watton in Skugog, she has about four challengers,
00:58:38.860 including a regional councillor.
00:58:40.500 But I can't see any change there,
00:58:41.960 just simply from the split of the anti-vote.
00:58:47.560 And that's one of the things that Tom didn't have here.
00:58:49.820 He was just one-on-one with Foster, and he took him out straight on.
00:58:54.080 So I think that's what's going on in Durham region.
00:58:57.780 It's going to be very interesting, if I might add,
00:59:00.260 regarding what's going to be going on, because on November 1st,
00:59:04.060 they're going to be announcing the new regional chair out here.
00:59:07.900 And if you remember, the regional chair used to be elected,
00:59:10.600 and it was john henry and then the province made the regional chair being appointed and
00:59:18.680 henry wasn't allowed to apply as i understand so there's people that have applied for the
00:59:23.480 regional chair's position now i understand the premier said that minister of municipal affairs
00:59:28.840 rob plaque and then associate minister grayden are going to be making decision on the regional chair
00:59:36.520 appointments but this is going to be really interesting and anyone that is on the side of
00:59:42.680 fiscal responsibility is going to stay tuned on this because if the province appoint a regional
00:59:49.080 chair who they've given strong chair powers to that guy better be bringing in a zero budget
00:59:55.480 because john if i may ask what was the ostensible policy reason to appoint a regional chair
01:00:02.120 as opposed to that little messy thing called democracy having voters saying this well i think
01:00:09.440 because um um well back in the day when roger anderson was a regional chairman roger was a
01:00:15.700 good regional chairman i actually ran against him one time but he was a good regional chairman
01:00:19.300 and when he was appointed at first and we all decided to make uh to make him elected because
01:00:24.840 he was always acting like he was elected so we said let's make it an election so um and by roger
01:00:31.120 did a lot for roger left a legacy in durham no question and um so john henry's been in there and
01:00:37.040 john henry's basically been a um ineffectual um perpetual huge property tax increases they just
01:00:46.640 um voted to put in place a 10-year capital budget of 1.2 billion dollars for durham regional police
01:00:54.240 i don't know how you can do that you're tying other other councils to um 1.2 billion dollars
01:01:00.000 it'd be the largest police capital expenditure right across canada so um so i guess they need
01:01:07.040 the money for all those drones they're putting up in the area yeah it could be but so you know
01:01:13.120 i had a lot to do with um with uh writing the um a lot of the um um the policy regarding what's
01:01:20.560 going to happen to the regions so i um i suggested that they go to a weighted vote which they're
01:01:26.480 doing in niagara they adopted it so wait and vote for the mayors and then i think that durham
01:01:31.600 region and the region should change into services boards it's going to save the taxpayers money
01:01:37.200 reduce the duplication between the area municipality and the region and that way any
01:01:43.200 municipality can purchase the level of service that they want from durham region if they want
01:01:48.800 more police presence they purchase it if they want less police presence then they don't have
01:01:53.600 to pay as much same thing with with roads and then uh obviously uh this uh this past four years the
01:02:00.480 province took the regions out of the out of planning and again there's still so much duplication
01:02:06.720 that exists between the regions and the area municipalities i expect them all to change into
01:02:12.160 services boards and niagara is going to be the example over the next four years and i think
01:02:18.640 that is why the regional chairs are being appointed by the province of ontario now if you
01:02:25.120 know we've heard rumors that um of who could possibly be the regional um chair in new york
01:02:31.520 they took uh the last term they took a senior bureaucrat i think it was a former deputy uh
01:02:36.480 chief of police um i can't see it being a former elected person um because that person is still
01:02:43.440 going to have significant ties to the council that's here and it's going to be very difficult
01:02:51.440 for them to um let's just say um to turn the region into a services board and to take um and
01:02:59.360 to stop duplication of services so it's going to be really interesting who they appoint because um
01:03:05.600 it's going to be a make or break appointment and the province are going to wear anything that's
01:03:09.360 going to have a tax increase especially since the new chair is going to bring in the budget so
01:03:14.240 i think that's going to be one of the most super interesting things that happens after the election
01:03:19.840 well john you're truly an insider and one last question before you go um it's the flip side of
01:03:27.280 east of toronto i'm talking west of toronto i'm talking about hamilton andrea horwath the mayor
01:03:32.800 there the woman who would be premier uh i understand that uh position might be in play
01:03:39.600 i think you told me that hamilton has a history of not rewarding mayors with a second term
01:03:45.840 i've heard her campaign has been awful so what what's going to happen in the hammer well i you
01:03:53.200 know i got a feeling that she's going to go back in but what i'm telling you is that um hamilton
01:03:59.680 has always had one-term mayors they had fred eismont and then they threw him out then they
01:04:04.400 had bob pertina then they threw him out and it's a really fickle electorate down there and um i
01:04:09.920 don't know what you oh you don't have any results in there now but um i think that um it's going to
01:04:15.440 be super interesting now i know that um andrea started to work with the province a bit so as
01:04:22.160 As soon as she left her position as as the leader of the NDP, I remember being around provincial cabinet ministers and saying that, well, Andrea is calling down here.
01:04:34.860 Oh, she's really working with us. Well, you know, and there's no mayor in Ontario that works with the province as well as Michael Del Duca.
01:04:46.140 And obviously he ran against the dog. He was the leader of the Liberal Party.
01:04:50.360 Oh, Stephen Del Duca.
01:04:51.720 Stephen Del Duca.
01:04:52.420 Yeah, sorry. Stephen Del Duca. Sorry.
01:04:54.960 But he brought in no tax increase.
01:05:00.420 He decreased development charges.
01:05:03.100 And he's done an unbelievable job down there.
01:05:07.040 You almost think he was a conservative.
01:05:08.780 I agree. You know, I think our role here, Sue Ann, is to be the umpire behind the own plate.
01:05:15.240 I call balls and strikes.
01:05:17.040 Stephen Del Duca is a liberal.
01:05:18.640 you know what uh he's doing a great job in vaughn he always has time for rebel news he doesn't run
01:05:25.020 away he doesn't call the police he doesn't shun us uh so i give him props for that and he's been
01:05:30.480 great with the jewish community you know 100 yeah fabulous he tore up he tore up his party card when
01:05:37.180 he became a mayor and that's what you got to do yeah because fiscal responsibility is not because
01:05:43.220 of the color of card that you carry and i remember having several conservatives that were the worst
01:05:50.340 at their region for spending money on um on social projects that we didn't need and then i remember
01:05:56.900 folks like uh tito who you know at one time ran for the liberal party being more fiscally conservative
01:06:02.580 than anyone else so sorry to interrupt we're up against the clock here we have to go i want to
01:06:08.740 thank you sincerely for all your insight and um i'll see you back in court in december yeah we
01:06:15.540 sure will okay thank you guys take care how do you like that no uh i i mean uh suen he knows his
01:06:25.140 stuff you know a uh a liberal um somebody let's face it he ran a dreadful campaign he kept talking
01:06:33.780 about removing the tax off costco pre-cooked chickens stuff like that and yet in the mayor's
01:06:41.300 chair in vaughn he's been brilliant a great job he has been absolutely brilliant yeah you know
01:06:46.340 um i talked to a few people in my community who live up there and they said he's a shoe-in he's
01:06:52.820 just been a wonderful mayor yeah and and you're right he's very personable whenever i've seen him
01:06:59.860 he's made a point of coming up and saying hello yes he doesn't say doesn't run away from me like
01:07:05.540 many lefties do except karima who's about to come up oh he doesn't run away from me well this is
01:07:12.900 fantastic folks we have independent journalist maybe a newly christened uh politician who knows
01:07:20.420 we have to count the votes and that would be karima said in one of i would say the top six
01:07:28.260 writings to watch in the city of toronto out on the danforth um karima thank you so much for
01:07:34.980 joining us you know what i find really unique there you've had an incumbent i think paula
01:07:39.300 fletcher the former communist was around for over 20 years it was an eternity uh not only
01:07:46.100 is she gone but i find it kind of amazing that diana sacks has left her university rosedale
01:07:54.740 well you know why oh because she couldn't beat mike layton exactly so um but i wonder if her
01:08:01.860 shtick works in the danforth that once worked in university rosedale um tell us karima what are
01:08:09.300 what have you heard these last several weeks out on the hustings well ours is definitely one of the
01:08:15.380 most crowded races um there's 18 people in total who are buying for the spot um and you know you
01:08:24.340 laid out the history of it very well Paula Fletcher was a councillor for 23 years um so that's a very
01:08:32.100 long time and it wasn't until the last week of the nomination period that she entered and then
01:08:39.700 promptly withdrew from the race uh and you know there was um something of a an endorsement that
01:08:46.420 she offered to kind of the next in line former trustee who's now making her way up the pipeline
01:08:53.540 Councillor Hopeful. And then Diane Sachs kind of threw a wrench in things. And then there's also
01:08:59.140 a former councillor for the same area back before they fused the wards together. Mary Fragedakis.
01:09:06.420 That's right. Who herself is in some sort of litigation with the Greektown BIA. So like 0.99
01:09:12.900 everything is a mess. But I love that. You like drama though, don't you?
01:09:18.340 I will say that I am good at finding drama. Drama finds me and you know we're having a
01:09:27.220 I had a blast with this whole campaign and you know you were asking David kind of what
01:09:32.820 are people saying on the ground it's a mix of things but I really get a sense that that people
01:09:38.740 are restless and feeling a bit discontent and you know just ready for some sort of change and now
01:09:47.460 what will that change look like? Is it voting for more of the same? We'll see. When I last checked,
01:09:52.900 I was tied for first place with zero votes. Nothing's come in yet. But it was cool seeing
01:09:58.740 my name on the screen. So, there you go. Well, good for you for throwing your,
01:10:04.340 I would say, your little, you know, scooter into the ring, not your hat.
01:10:10.260 That was one of my platform issues. I am a proponent of sensible micromobility laws,
01:10:15.300 yeah you know and micro mobility i've never heard that word before i love it 0.95
01:10:20.840 but mary fragadakis what the heck was she thinking jumping into the race i mean she's 0.99
01:10:29.820 yesterday's woman talk about you know she's run a strong campaign on the ground um i will say that
01:10:36.660 for kind of all the candidates who you know are taking it seriously you see their flyers you see
01:10:42.960 their signs um so you know whatever the outcome uh there was real effort put into this and there
01:10:49.900 were a couple of debates um which weren't attended by all candidates and were held sort of toward the
01:10:55.620 end of the election period in part i think because the groups that normally would be organizing that
01:11:01.620 kind of stuff just haven't had to for so long um so there was a bit of a scramble um but we did
01:11:06.840 manage to have a few debates there were good ideas thrown around there was a little bit of shade
01:11:11.800 thrown around um and you know it it's uh i couldn't ask for anything different from the process um
01:11:20.200 i would say paula fletcher she was i mean i was at city hall for 25 years she'd already been 1.00
01:11:27.520 there for a while she was the best excuse for term limits 0.97
01:11:31.480 i mean you know there are some people you mean she quit and didn't let leave the building no
01:11:38.820 well we used to know you're not wrong if there is a complacency and as well kind of how do you
01:11:46.400 continue to serve everyone when obviously you know you build relationships and people fall
01:11:53.200 into patterns and grooves right so you know i think that three terms is a lot of terms as it is
01:11:59.780 and that's probably a reasonable place to to put a limit uh you know you have your first term
01:12:06.300 learning the ropes your second term of kind of doing action and then your third term to mentor
01:12:11.480 others um but that's how i see it i completely agree and i had suggested that in stories the
01:12:17.560 other thing was that she was is i would uh assume married to john cartwright who was the head of the
01:12:25.620 york region labor council so i don't think she ever declared conflict when she went to vote on
01:12:32.800 labor issues that is a conflict yeah and that always drove me crazy besides the fact that she
01:12:39.240 was screaming at taxpayers at budget meetings that's news to me and yeah you know it's there's
01:12:46.100 there's um a lot of union support that's been put behind um one of the candidates um and it kind of
01:12:52.780 the whole progress toronto machine um it's operating the ndp machine is operating um but
01:12:59.400 But the candidate herself, like interpersonally, has been nothing but kind and nice.
01:13:04.740 So I really, you know, here I am touting drama and I have none to offer.
01:13:09.280 Well, see, that's the way they get in.
01:13:13.440 The NDP starts with the school board, they move up to council, and I guess the one that
01:13:20.240 Paula's touting was on the school board.
01:13:22.900 Yes, she was.
01:13:23.900 Yes.
01:13:24.900 Is it Sarah?
01:13:25.900 It's a whole pipeline.
01:13:26.900 Yeah.
01:13:27.900 what they do the unions prop them up the union back candidates get whatever they want at school
01:13:34.460 board and then at city hall it makes it very tough for people like you to jump into the race so you
01:13:41.100 are to be congratulated i i you know i this will sound naive completely underestimated the extent
01:13:48.300 to which that was a factor yeah in municipal politics uh because you always hear independent
01:13:53.020 independent independent it's not really not at all i will say this karima i think you had the best
01:14:00.600 slogan in toronto which was um be happy vote sod but seriously you're an independent journalist
01:14:08.780 you do great work in the field you take a lot of heat you're a lioness out there you're a lawyer
01:14:14.300 what in the world motivated you to get into the wacky world of municipal politics in the first
01:14:20.480 place well i mean there was obviously opportunity as we just discussed um and i see this whole
01:14:29.280 election period as a platform for public education uh and and so with my journalism
01:14:36.480 you know i cover things and offer some limited commentary um and now i've had an opportunity
01:14:43.040 to weigh in a little bit more and talk about kind of how what happens in the street
01:14:49.040 really does affect city hall and vice versa um right it's not um it's not happening in a vacuum
01:14:56.880 uh and and so that's been kind of a running theme in a lot of the conversations i've had
01:15:02.240 um public safety open drug use um you know the sort of ideological influence that that appears to be
01:15:12.880 omnipresent at city hall and not everyone is is happy with that and the sense i get is you know
01:15:20.160 we wish that people would be doing their jobs within their mandate and doing their jobs well
01:15:25.200 and that's what i stand for and did you run into progress toronto on the campaign a little bit um
01:15:33.360 i will say in my ward um they did not run sort of the negative campaigns that we've seen in other
01:15:41.360 wards um so that was fortunate um for them um and you know it they definitely um are skilled
01:15:51.860 organizers i will give them that um and kind of good at mobilizing people um but the unfortunate
01:15:59.380 thing is that the tactics aren't always above board or or honest um right there's misrepresentation
01:16:07.540 there's kind of putting people in boxes or applying labels that don't necessarily fit
01:16:13.280 and it's all in service of a type of fear-mongering so I don't think that that is healthy for our
01:16:20.200 political landscape and kind of I didn't have to deal with it formally from them but a lot of that
01:16:27.560 attached itself to my campaign and you know we just it's it's like being out on the street one
01:16:34.340 foot in front of the other and you keep it moving and go through all the
01:16:38.480 processes that you have to but it's it's exhausting on top of actually just
01:16:43.560 being a candidate I found towards the end of the campaign though that people
01:16:49.100 were saying I can't stand them I understand what they're trying to do I
01:16:53.480 think people were catching on to their tactics yeah they went after Anthony
01:17:01.820 fury with a vengeance last two years ago i would find their literature at the door because i helped
01:17:08.540 them canvas but i don't think their can their tactics were as effective this time people are
01:17:16.380 fed up with it people are fed up with this kind of just being told what to think and you know fed
01:17:22.460 certain buzzwords and now you must do this otherwise you too are a bigoted blah blah blah blah blah
01:17:28.460 Like, we're over it. I think everyone's over it. And, you know, we'll see in the actual results. But regardless, I don't think that momentum is going away anytime soon. You know, it has worn its course.
01:17:43.800 And of course, Anthony Fury, a former colleague of yours at the Trons, who I think would have made a superb mayor.
01:17:49.340 I really do. Karima, tell me, I must say, bike lanes have been in the news lately.
01:17:55.180 Premier Ford getting them yanked out over Olivia Chow's opposition in Etobicoke.
01:18:01.540 I know in the Danforth, quite frankly, I think bike lanes there have destroyed that street.
01:18:07.360 I've spoken to restaurateurs, retailers, people that live there.
01:18:10.860 they hate it uh the street has been reduced to a one-lane conga line um i'm gonna put you on the
01:18:17.400 spot where do you stand with that uh can we make danforth avenue great again by ripping those bike
01:18:24.100 lanes out yeah i think that on arterial roads like danforth um and and especially because you know
01:18:31.900 there used to be the taste of the danforth pretty consistently um the pandemic threw a bit of a
01:18:37.540 and then it was sort of space and infrastructure issues and yet they got
01:18:44.360 over it this year but I do see that as a problem there's also a lot of
01:18:50.440 cyclists in Danforth but there's so much green space and that it's not
01:18:54.580 inconceivable to have moved some of this infrastructure over you know the real
01:19:00.760 issue to me on bike lanes is that obviously the province and the
01:19:06.640 municipal level like there's something dysfunctional in that relationship when money is being spent
01:19:11.760 to put infrastructure in and then rip it out and then on top of that police people who are trying
01:19:17.460 to prevent that court order from having effect right so it's just so much wasted resources
01:19:24.480 and the talking of it is a bit weird too and convenient in a sense I would say for the
01:19:32.000 incumbent mayor um because it's been an issue that they've rallied around and they've mobilized
01:19:37.000 around um and you know she generally seems to have a good relationship with the premier
01:19:43.220 um so the fact that for the last couple of weeks of the campaign you had kind of this
01:19:50.060 energy and people coalescing and fighting for an issue that she champions you know the timing of
01:19:58.640 It was just, I would say, convenient for her.
01:20:01.260 And one last thing before we go, we're up against an ad break, Karima.
01:20:05.120 You've documented this.
01:20:06.480 We've documented it.
01:20:07.600 Joe Warmington of the Sun has as well.
01:20:10.040 On Danforth between Dawes and Maine, that's basically a no-go zone now.
01:20:17.380 There are homeless people, drug addicts, drug dealers.
01:20:22.740 They're the real dangerous ones that have taken over that stretch.
01:20:26.780 What can be done about that?
01:20:28.640 Yeah, so that is something that I covered. It's just outside of my ward. It's in Ward 19. And I will say from the time that myself and Joe and Lynn Brooks and a few others were recording the area, there has been an improvement in that the fencing that was kind of keeping everyone corralled and that was being used to affix like the stolen scooters and bicycles and whatever.
01:20:56.360 that fencing has since been removed um so there's been a slight improvement um well actually i would
01:21:03.540 say more than a slight improvement um it's still sort of a a bit of a sketchy walkthrough area um
01:21:11.220 so by no means is the problem resolved um but i i do think that some of the um coverage that
01:21:19.000 you know and people paying attention um prompted um some of that improvement so you know i
01:21:25.300 it's it's that that's just uh what it is on the ground but of course it's not unique to
01:21:32.420 that neighborhood there are lots of um parts in the city that uh are effectively no-go zones and
01:21:39.720 the weirdest thing to me um is sort of the online commentary where people insist no no no this is
01:21:45.880 fine actually i bring my kid here all the time i would walk there as a woman alone at night no
01:21:51.100 problem um and it's just this weird sort of rejection of of reality and it's not just on
01:21:57.180 this issue it's on many issues so kind of that's what's going to be decided at the ballot box today
01:22:03.540 well karima good luck thank you for your time and don't scooter off into the sunset
01:22:10.080 when this is done and lock your scooter how many times is that thing being stolen and it shows up
01:22:15.540 in hamilton all the time right oh my goodness and it's not even from a lack of diligence on my part
01:22:20.720 people will cut the logs um but i have an archive of probably eight or nine videos now of scooter
01:22:27.720 recoveries um so one day you know when i'm out of the politician world and we want to kind of show
01:22:34.640 some racy footage i'll show you uh some self-help videos fantastic thank you so much karima you're
01:22:41.040 always there you go you know kareem assad whenever she refers to me uh she always says david menzies
01:22:47.940 and capitals the hat i think she was originally trying to get under my skin but i like it and
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01:25:17.900 comment before our dear harrison comes on why is it taking so darn long for the results to come in
01:25:23.560 great question electronic balloting they took my ballot put it right in the machine well you know
01:25:29.820 what harrison faulkner at uh juno news he's a very smart young man maybe he has the answer
01:25:36.340 Harrison, thank you for joining us on the Rebel News Live election coverage.
01:25:42.780 To Sue Ann's question, what's the delay?
01:25:48.080 Well, we don't know.
01:25:49.520 And all the broadcasters right now, CP24, CBC News, you guys at Rebel, nobody has any answers.
01:25:59.020 Apparently at CP24, which I was just watching, I'm watching both streams, by the way.
01:26:03.900 I'm not just watching the mainstream media here, but I wanted to just see what they were talking about with regard to this delay.
01:26:10.500 And they said they spoke to people involved in Olivia Chow's campaign.
01:26:14.520 I guess they seem to maybe they have answers.
01:26:16.840 They said that there are just very long lines at a lot of these polling stations.
01:26:20.680 And that's what is contributing to the delay.
01:26:23.520 But Sue Ann, you're right.
01:26:24.760 When I voted this morning, it was an electronic machine.
01:26:27.920 So I don't really know what's going on.
01:26:30.580 They always have problems.
01:26:32.340 They can't get it right.
01:26:33.900 maybe it's that olivia is losing and she doesn't want to the results revealed conspiracy yeah and 0.99
01:26:40.620 and you know what but you're right uh suanne a lot of polling stations opened late and they had to
01:26:46.140 extend some i think by 20 25 minutes so it was 8 20 8 25 uh closing to make up for that lost ground
01:26:53.900 but you know this isn't our first uh rodeo um harrison um why i i well again i am i i guess
01:27:03.900 we're being redundant but um i remember what was uh was rob ford first elected um 2010 yeah and i
01:27:12.700 think we had a result in about 10 minutes 20 20 20 okay i was in that cbc studio okay that's right
01:27:21.900 but not by much so surely we've improved since then that's you know some 16 years ago and yet
01:27:31.100 here we are everyone's wondering what's going on no and and evidently we haven't improved and this
01:27:37.340 just continues to raise questions and it lowers the voters trust in whatever the result may be
01:27:42.780 and i think we're all expecting it to be a close raise tonight yeah and when you have things like
01:27:48.140 this questions that start to arise about why why it is we're not getting any results then that's
01:27:54.060 just that doesn't help really anybody but um one story that i don't think gets that much attention
01:28:01.740 and it's been taking place around ontario and the ontario municipalities is the fact that a lot of
01:28:07.260 these smaller races are being la are fully electronic voting so you vote at home on your
01:28:12.620 computer and you get some code in the mail and that's how they register you as a voter
01:28:18.540 a lot of those races are decided by 10 15 20 votes sometimes those are important jobs um and
01:28:25.820 i think that's a bit strange now granted you probably don't have any excuse for delays like
01:28:30.780 you have in toronto but just on this i've been watching the betting markets closely
01:28:37.020 and there hasn't really been unfortunately any major impact to olivia chow's odds on either of
01:28:44.540 the two large betting market platforms prediction market platforms there's the the the betters all
01:28:51.100 seem to think olivia chow sadly has this in the bag tonight you know um i would being somewhat
01:28:58.220 of an nfl better i would liken this to the game that burned me yesterday harrison which i should
01:29:04.620 have listened to my inner gut and avoided a do not touch and it was lions by three and a half
01:29:11.100 over the green bay packers yes the lions won no they didn't cover the spread they only won by
01:29:16.780 three points so uh i would i have the same feeling for this race i wouldn't touch it with uh real
01:29:24.300 money but i want to talk about your first point i live in richmond hill and i can tell you harrison
01:29:30.380 you could vote online in that election and i hate it hate it hate it listen i am a technological
01:29:39.420 ignoramus but i remember once upon a time i interviewed it was a tech genius he was based
01:29:44.380 out of minneapolis and i'll never forget what he said harrison he said if you can build it 0.88
01:29:50.220 you can break it or hack it right and i'm too stupid to do that full disclosure but i bet 0.51
01:29:56.700 there's some young turk out there that knows how to get into the matrix and carry out some 0.89
01:30:03.020 shenanigans what how do you feel about that because harrison i would say that if you can't 0.99
01:30:08.140 get off your butt once every four years and go down to a polling station and cast a ballot i 0.97
01:30:14.460 mean we're not asking you to go to war in the middle east for god's sakes we're just asking 0.99
01:30:18.460 you to vote we we have to go online don't like it your thoughts well the fact that you feel that way
01:30:26.140 almost guarantees that there are a lot of people in this province who don't like this system
01:30:31.500 yeah none of us are you know super coders and super hackers able to break the voting system but
01:30:38.540 the fact that we don't have trust in it is the problem you have to have faith in the system you
01:30:44.220 have to you have to have a system that um that nobody really should be second guessing and should
01:30:50.940 of confidence in and i think that's a huge issue and and i i don't like it either david i just
01:30:58.000 think i just think it it seems to me that it is possible to probably break knowing the fact
01:31:05.800 having the unfortunate uh having having to unfortunately deal with small town bureaucrats
01:31:12.740 in many instances uh is that on my end okay sorry i thought that audio might have been coming
01:31:19.180 no worries um but not i'm afraid to say the people running ontario municipalities aren't
01:31:26.700 exactly the smartest people in the world so maybe their election systems aren't exactly rock solid
01:31:35.820 so and how do you feel about online voting
01:31:40.540 it's like la what does that mean you know well it's like a mail-in ballot i don't trust any of
01:31:46.780 of that stuff. I think, well, there's some stuff that's gone on at the polls today where people
01:31:53.580 haven't had to present ID, but at least they come in with their ID. I still, I'm maybe old-fashioned,
01:32:01.660 but I think that that assures more trust from in the, between the voter and the polls.
01:32:10.840 yeah but having said that look at these expensive machines yeah that were bought by the city of
01:32:18.120 toronto and they can't get the results i understand that mississauga and that's why you heard
01:32:22.900 mississauga results are already in i don't know what the results are but oh
01:32:27.160 do you have any information on that alvin tedjo has defeated bonnie crombie and carolyn parrish
01:32:34.120 wow he came up the middle didn't he yeah yep and bonnie crombie actually finished third tonight
01:32:40.580 uh alvin tedjo smashed his race and won by i believe uh well i just looked at they're right
01:32:48.180 there on the bottom of the screen actually on your broadcast 58 000 votes carolyn parish 42
01:32:53.260 and bonnie crombie at a 35 so quite a result for alvin tedjo tonight yeah yeah they're i mean
01:33:01.220 they're all pandered to the terrorist element him included it's true harrison i mean they had
01:33:08.500 somebody asked them would you support a um basically a bds movement against israel
01:33:15.220 on the municipal level because you see israel is an apartheid state which is an absolute libelous
01:33:22.260 thing to say in my book and uh they all agreed uh carolyn parish wasn't there but we know where
01:33:27.920 she stands on that oh my gosh she stomps on the israeli flag oh exactly she burns it so as far
01:33:33.620 i'm concerned it's um mississauga the candidates there it's kind of like the tagline for the movie
01:33:40.980 some 20 years ago remember alien versus predator uh no matter which side wins we lose yeah yeah
01:33:50.020 i'm um i live in downtown toronto so i'm not gonna i'm not gonna get on a high horse and look down
01:33:56.820 on on the bad situation in mississauga uh there is i anyway i should be there uh obviously mississauga
01:34:04.340 it's it we've known about we've known about the situation in that city for a long time it's like
01:34:09.780 milton it's like a lot of the the gtha really um is being dominated by foreign issues yeah and so
01:34:17.020 you have politicians that have to pander to the foreign causes interestingly speaking about
01:34:23.400 pandering to foreign causes one of the greatest at that in this country is patrick brown he has
01:34:28.840 also won a third term in brampton tonight so those results are in and it's 9 10 and we have zero
01:34:36.440 results in toronto probably the most important municipal race in the country the most closely
01:34:42.120 watched race in the country we have zero results in toronto i i think i think this is a cause for
01:34:49.800 concern what is the technology are these dominion voting machines harrison uh i i i don't know and
01:34:57.320 uh and i i i don't even really want to mention the words dominion i know why
01:35:04.120 they're very litigious aren't they exactly uh but but uh i voted this morning sue ann mentioned it
01:35:11.640 you fill out your ballot it goes on to a an electric tabulator and then it counts by screen
01:35:18.200 so clearly the number just gets automatically counted it should be automatic i mean people are
01:35:23.000 texting me right now as i speak asking me what's going on with these numbers i put out a tweet
01:35:27.800 saying the numbers have been delayed and people are getting very concerned this is a cause for
01:35:31.800 concern because there is as far as i can tell um and i've been i have a couple of broadcasts going
01:35:37.720 on on either screen beside me here there's no explanation and um speaking of other results we
01:35:46.200 just have ottawa here it looks like the incumbent uh mark sutcliffe uh back in by a handy margin
01:35:53.800 so ottawa's doing it right and uh is there any timeline in which we can you know expect a result
01:36:00.840 i mean to your earlier point everyone expects it to be a close race well that's coming true right
01:36:06.520 now isn't it harrison it's zero zero it's a dead heat it is it really is obviously i think um
01:36:15.000 I think everyone watching should pay close attention to Starborough.
01:36:19.460 That is likely where this race will be called and where it will be decided.
01:36:23.580 Olivia Chow is going to carry downtown Toronto. 0.96
01:36:27.120 I live in the Davenport riding.
01:36:30.200 Obviously, I'm going to be watching some of these council ridings too
01:36:34.220 because I think that's going to be interesting to see, obviously, Kareem Asad,
01:36:39.000 how she performs tonight, how progress Toronto's candidates perform,
01:36:42.860 if we can somehow find a way to see the performance of some of these candidates
01:36:47.080 from last election to this election.
01:36:49.320 I have a sense, I don't know about both of you,
01:36:52.200 but being in a downtown riding and seeing the signs,
01:36:58.420 getting a sense that actually, I think Progress Toronto
01:37:01.860 is not nearly as popular as they were last election.
01:37:05.500 We just talked about that.
01:37:06.540 Sue Ann was just mentioning that.
01:37:07.560 I just mentioned that.
01:37:08.140 Now, I'm in Midtown, which is an entirely different kettle of fish than downtown.
01:37:17.800 But Brad Bradford signs were everywhere.
01:37:21.540 And I sensed in the last couple of weeks that Progress Toronto had lost its mojo or that people were starting to get wise to their antics.
01:37:33.620 Yep, I think so.
01:37:34.760 and my writing is Davenport and it is led by a Progress Toronto councillor Alejandra Bravo right
01:37:42.800 Alejandra Bravo yep and so where I am there are a lot of Olivia Chow signs and where I am in
01:37:49.640 particular is clearly part of the the ward that is dominated by the left however I still I'm still
01:37:57.480 seeing a lot of signs for what I consider to be the center-right leaning candidate Marco Martins
01:38:03.340 I want to see what kind of numbers he puts up tonight because I have a feeling that in the north end of the riding where it's heavily dominated by Italian immigrants and Portuguese immigrants, he's going to do extremely well.
01:38:15.040 And so if he's able to pick up some support where Bravo dominates, that might be very interesting to watch.
01:38:22.740 If there can be any, if it is going to be, as the betting markets predict, and as some of the latest polling was showing, a tight race that Chow ends up just surviving on.
01:38:33.960 I guess one of the good things we could look out for, hopefully, is if any of these Progress Toronto candidates go down and we get some, hopefully, some sanity back into council.
01:38:43.340 Well, I think I wrote about six of them.
01:38:48.800 They called them caressive champions.
01:38:51.120 And I don't think any of them have a hope in how, well, I could be eating my words later.
01:38:55.720 But other than perhaps that Diane Chan McNally, who is running in Gord Perks Ward,
01:39:02.520 and he virtually handed the ward to her, she is quite the activist.
01:39:09.200 Stands for everything I don't stand for.
01:39:11.700 but um i think other than that um so paulo fletcher's gone and gord perks is gone
01:39:20.700 um and i think the composition or i hope the composition of council will be a little bit
01:39:26.620 different yeah unfortunately we can't do anything to get rid of my counselor he's like
01:39:32.080 uh bad cheese let me guess josh matlow yeah okay so matlow it looks like he'll be going on 20 years
01:39:40.500 as a counselor or something close yeah now there was a very competent woman who ran against him
01:39:45.800 but again you know he's he's got a lot of support in the south part of the ward we all hate him 0.81
01:39:51.840 my part of the ward but you know it's the same deal when you had your uh mpp that nut bar jill
01:39:59.500 andrews yes she got elected and re-elected and and it because it's an incredibly um diverse ward
01:40:08.660 is that you have multi-million dollar homes in the north and then social housing down south right
01:40:14.180 forest hill chaplain state sorry to interrupt but there there is some numbers coming in now
01:40:20.980 on on councils um which uh i think you're gonna want to closely look at just one one outside of
01:40:28.700 toronto i know there are likely some people watching tonight or perhaps in the london in
01:40:32.640 the london area uh susan stevenson did not uh looks like she will not be london mayor uh she
01:40:38.940 was a great candidate really great candidate and josh morgan looks like he will hold on quite
01:40:45.120 handily um and be re-elected there but yeah there should be some toronto numbers coming in right now
01:40:50.880 we have it here um brendan chow is a close third yeah too bad we didn't put in a justin chow
01:40:58.680 and uh morgatroy chow you know 53.6 isn't that amazing somehow chris alexander still gets
01:41:07.500 0.5 he's not even 416 votes and and uh wow that let's talk about that um yeah this is this is
01:41:17.820 looking good guys i'm gonna see how this impact i want to just see if this well that could be
01:41:23.000 just one or two polls so you don't even know where it is in toronto that's true yeah 41 and change
01:41:31.160 uh a thousand votes for bradford and 32 000 change for that could flip back and forth yeah but i too
01:41:38.820 bad there wasn't a justin chow and you know michael chow but you know something um seriously
01:41:45.520 though the fact that brayden chow is third albeit a distant third how many people harrison do you
01:41:52.500 think they just looked at the first chow on the ballot yeah and i don't even know how they were
01:41:57.380 ranked i understand it wasn't even alphabetical um can you give us any insight into how they
01:42:03.460 present the names on a ballot well there there must have been i think there must have been it
01:42:08.660 was alphabetical oh i have this information i beg your pardon richmond hill what do you know yeah
01:42:14.100 yeah bradford had bradford had good placement obviously about he was above olivia yeah um
01:42:20.900 and right near the top and brayden chow was above was above olivia chow um that's why she kept saying
01:42:27.060 i'm number nine i'm number exactly i was just gonna say i mean the last week of the campaign
01:42:31.540 she she almost changed her slogan to number nine um and everybody kept saying we hope she comes in
01:42:38.020 ninth yeah yeah yeah so uh let's see what 573 votes for braden chow uh that's that's pretty
01:42:47.780 interesting that's incredible we'll never know of course we can only speculate but by the way
01:42:52.820 harrison to get back to the the swing issue um i i would say um you know it's a very unscientific
01:43:03.300 way to you know pick who's going to win based on signs but i will say this when i do my sign poll
01:43:11.460 the first thing i do any signs on public property i discount that's nothing because the team no one
01:43:19.740 requested those signs but anecdotally driving around toronto albeit mostly north toronto as
01:43:26.120 opposed to downtown toronto right i would say brad bradford signs on private property were
01:43:31.520 outpacing olivia chow maybe two to three to one based on unsigned type of observation so
01:43:37.340 So that's got to be a good sign.
01:43:39.820 And I want to make one other note because having canvassed this past weekend,
01:43:45.920 the Jewish community all over social media all came out to talk to me.
01:43:51.080 They really rallied this time.
01:43:53.860 And, you know, often they don't go out to vote, but they had a mission this time.
01:43:59.400 Whether it makes a difference, I don't know, but I hope it does.
01:44:02.900 Well, Harrison, I'm sorry we have to end it here.
01:44:05.440 We have our next guest.
01:44:07.400 So thank you so much for your insight.
01:44:09.400 At least at the end, we got something to talk about.
01:44:12.060 And like you said, looking good for Brad Bradford.
01:44:15.300 Well, that's not.
01:44:16.520 So far, yeah.
01:44:17.700 I don't want to get spooked.
01:44:20.280 No, no.
01:44:20.820 So far, so good.
01:44:21.980 But there's been no impact on the prediction markets yet.
01:44:25.660 So we'll see.
01:44:26.720 But thanks for having me on.
01:44:27.680 Really appreciate it.
01:44:28.500 Thank you, Harrison.
01:44:29.500 Thank you.
01:44:31.260 It's a great name, Brad Bradford.
01:44:32.960 You know, it's a superhero name. 0.99
01:44:34.480 some of the idiots on social media were going sad sadford bad bad i mean i tell you the left 1.00
01:44:43.840 is so childish he's going to poison the water brad he's going to privatize water oh my god 1.00
01:44:50.880 and the world will come to an end oh my goodness well folks we have our next guest and i'm delighted
01:44:56.240 to introduce noah jarvis the ontario director of the taxpayers federation noah how are you doing
01:45:03.520 there oh i don't think we have audio there noah sorry about that there we go uh nice to see you
01:45:14.240 again looking great you look very professional i'm really impressed so it's been long delayed
01:45:22.480 and we don't know how many polls have been counted but right now uh brad bradford at 53.6 to olivia
01:45:28.720 chow's 41.5 tell me as far as the taxpayers federation uh do you have a dog in the hunt here
01:45:36.800 that you're supporting to be mayor of toronto well as you know the canadian taxpayers federation is
01:45:42.800 a non-partisan organization but what i will say is that voters in toronto should be looking for
01:45:49.600 a mayor who is going to look out for the best interest in taxpayers and that means curtailing
01:45:55.120 the wasteful government spending that we have been seeing from the city council for the past four
01:45:59.200 years and stopping the massive property tax hikes that taxpayers have been seeing. I mean,
01:46:05.040 just in the past three years, property taxes have risen by almost 20%, costing property taxpayers
01:46:12.800 about an extra thousand dollars every year in property taxes, which is real money for people
01:46:18.240 who are struggling with to deal with the rising cost of living. So I think taxpayers went to the
01:46:24.640 polls motivated to elect a mayor and council who will provide that sort of tax relief so noah you're
01:46:31.360 absolutely right uh almost 20 increase in three years in property taxes and yet olivia chow had
01:46:37.600 the chutzpah to run on a platform that she's the best candidate for the cost of living uh issue 1.00
01:46:46.400 well you raise property taxes by almost 20 how can she say that yeah the mayor has to take 1.00
01:46:53.840 responsibility for hiking taxes on Torontonians that high. And I mean, like we're in a politics
01:47:00.860 right now where people are really concerned with the rising cost of living. We see food
01:47:05.600 inflation outpacing the standard rate of inflation. Home prices are still very expensive and
01:47:12.600 unaffordable for a lot of Canadians, especially young Canadians. So hiking those taxes on
01:47:19.180 torontonians making life more expensive just makes absolutely no sense and the reason that they're
01:47:24.900 hiking these taxes is supposedly to spend money on x y and z programs but this the city council
01:47:31.380 has been wasting millions upon millions of taxpayer dollars on software licenses that they are not
01:47:38.300 using on plaques commemorating dead raccoons homeless uh you know the cost of homelessness
01:47:45.600 has just uh gone out of this it's out of this world it's just crazy high uh the last i checked
01:47:53.960 it was almost 200 a night per bed for emergency shelter i mean i could rent a hotel room for that
01:48:02.760 yeah and taxpayers don't feel like they're getting good value for their money so i think one of the
01:48:08.180 top of my concerns for torontonians going to the polls today uh is to elect a mayor and council
01:48:13.980 of who will cut that wasteful government spending
01:48:16.400 and it won't hike their property taxes on them.
01:48:19.040 And Noah, you said something,
01:48:20.680 and maybe a lot of people have no idea
01:48:23.420 what you're talking about.
01:48:24.380 I do.
01:48:25.760 We erected a plaque for a dead raccoon.
01:48:29.400 Now, look, I love raccoons.
01:48:31.480 I think they're the cutest animals on the planet,
01:48:33.600 but they're basically vermin in Toronto.
01:48:36.500 I mean, they overrun the city. 0.98
01:48:38.360 They use our garbage cans 1.00
01:48:40.480 like it's a visit to the Mandarin restaurant.
01:48:42.440 somehow a raccoon died somehow downtown and a plaque conrad the raccoon city hall squandered
01:48:51.640 two thousand dollars on that what's the story behind that noah look david i don't have much
01:48:58.640 love for raccoons some people keep them as pets so you know i i really i i don't judge it's everyone's
01:49:03.460 uh personal taste right but the city of toronto they decided it was a good use of taxpayer money
01:49:10.180 to spend nearly two thousand dollars erecting a plaque commemorating a dead raccoon a raccoon that
01:49:17.840 died 10 years ago mind you so this is just some random street kill and some people in toronto as
01:49:23.240 they normally do take pictures of this dead raccoon and post it online whatever and the city of toronto
01:49:28.440 thought this was such a momentous occasion in uh city of toronto history to spend thousands upon 0.93
01:49:33.820 thousands of taxpayer dollars on this uh ridiculous plaque it's absolutely crazy it's so 0.86
01:49:40.460 irresponsible i guess the point i'm making no it's not like it's an endangered species it's 0.80
01:49:45.100 not like 1934 and the last passenger pigeon dies at the cincinnati zoo it's there's millions of 0.90
01:49:51.980 these damn things so hey but again you know what people would say oh you're getting obsessed about
01:49:57.740 something costing two thousand dollars they always said that yeah but when i was at city hall 0.99
01:50:03.500 mike del grand and i sat down one day this was when david miller and noah probably doesn't
01:50:08.700 remember david miller because he's much too young um 2005 wanted to raise taxes a vehicle registration
01:50:16.780 tax and other taxes and we sat down just over a couple hours and we could cut a hundred million
01:50:25.180 from the budget and i'm you know with my mba my journalism degree and him being an accountant
01:50:31.420 that's what we could do yeah there is so much bloat in that budget you know they i don't know
01:50:37.020 if you've been following the number of employees they have now how much that's increased the budget
01:50:42.140 itself doubled in the last 10 years um and counselors because they've done just such a fine
01:50:49.580 job have given themselves a pay hike to 170 000. yeah toronto city councillors are right now making
01:50:57.660 more than ontario mlas and ontario mlas are some of the most overpaid politicians in north america
01:51:05.180 you know well no how do you feel about this i mean um i know he's very unpopular in certain
01:51:10.220 circles but not with me elon musk was heading up doge uh south of the border a year ago and
01:51:17.340 what they uncovered in wasteful u.s federal expenditures the list is too
01:51:24.940 long to list right here in terms of frivolous spending i bet you noah if you or one of your
01:51:31.100 colleagues of the canadian taxpayers federation went in as an auditor basically and went line by
01:51:37.580 line item you could just save millions on spending that i think is completely unnecessary
01:51:45.420 oh yeah david and uh the bureaucrats definitely don't want that happening so they're gonna keep
01:51:50.860 us far as far away as humanly possible we we try our best to do what we can on the outside
01:51:55.740 uh but this government really needs uh someone to come in and you know clean house you know clean up
01:52:00.860 all the waste because uh just years upon years of increasing spending isn't you know just by
01:52:06.620 happenstance it is because uh bureaucrats and politicians are wasting uh the hard-earned
01:52:12.540 tax dollars of the good people of toronto and you know when they budget they just add to what
01:52:19.180 they had from last year it doesn't matter whether they spend it or not they just add
01:52:25.180 so they never take away they always add and they've added to counselors counselors have
01:52:32.700 600 000 for staff and for all kinds of travel per counselor yep
01:52:38.780 noah what what are your thoughts on that is that needed no look they uh the the perks for
01:52:47.080 toronto city councillors have just been continuing to be uh pile on and pile on uh you know and and
01:52:53.680 toronto about 15 years ago if you recall elected a mayor who wanted to get rid of all those perks
01:53:00.020 but years of just neglect at city hall uh politicians thinking that they can get away
01:53:05.360 with these things scot-free had allowed these politicians to increase uh their office budgets
01:53:11.120 and to increase their salaries so it's important that uh the good people of toronto pay attention
01:53:16.640 to what their councillors and the mayor is doing and make sure that uh the mayor council councilors
01:53:22.400 aren't running amok with their money the problem is you've got you as a watchdog but the mainstream
01:53:28.320 media the legacy media they give they have given counselors and olivia a free pass i was like a
01:53:37.760 pit bull when i was at city hall and you you know you held your feet to the fire but there's nobody
01:53:44.880 doing that now other than some of the watchdog groups like yours yeah absolutely but but then
01:53:51.600 even again in ontario i'm just one man and i have to pay attention to the ontario government all the
01:53:56.320 different municipalities in Ontario. So that's why it's really important that Toronto City
01:54:02.100 Councils be transparent with the public on how they're spending taxpayer money and that
01:54:06.740 they open themselves up to freedom of information requests whenever the public sees fit. I mean,
01:54:12.060 right now, the City of Toronto, they have an arbitrary limit on the amount of FOI requests
01:54:16.080 that you can submit to them. There should be no limits on the public for trying to find
01:54:20.420 how politicians and bureaucrats are wasting their money.
01:54:23.420 that's outrageous and no you mentioned um without naming him but the late great rob ford my god i
01:54:29.580 miss that guy but i remember before he became mayor he used to be on john oakley's morning
01:54:35.080 show on am 640 every thursday after the 8 a.m news and he would come in with these files from
01:54:42.880 city hall so he was not making anything up and he would point he was like a one-man doge before
01:54:48.760 there was such a thing as doge and i'll never forget like as an example he once uncovered
01:54:55.320 a pilot project by the city of toronto for fifty thousand dollars and it was to teach homeless
01:55:02.360 people how to stilt walk now i don't know maybe cirque de soleil is hiring but can you imagine
01:55:10.120 such an outrageous wasteful spending how about teaching the homeless people to acquire a skill
01:55:16.440 that gets them a job as opposed to stilt walking your thoughts i'm blanking some blankets and bread 0.63
01:55:23.160 to stilt walking i guess yeah i mean that's completely ridiculous uh but that is why it is
01:55:29.240 important that uh counselors and politicians in general just find every way possible to keep as
01:55:34.520 much money in the pockets of taxpayers because taxpayers know how they want to spend their money
01:55:39.160 if you want to take a stilt walking class or pay for other people take some walking class that is
01:55:45.160 for you to decide how to spend your money politicians and counselors and bureaucrats
01:55:50.840 shouldn't be making those decisions for you well rob ford also um discovered that
01:55:57.240 there was a 78 000 budget to water counselors plants correct yes and he said that was the first
01:56:03.560 thing to go yeah and he said they could do it on their own yeah well some of my colleagues who
01:56:11.080 shall remain nameless but it was in my book uh they were with the globe mail peed in a plant
01:56:18.580 in the press gallery what said okay this is how we're going to water the plants it's in my book
01:56:23.960 so can a plant live like that i don't know i think you can't i think the plant shriveled up
01:56:29.340 afterwards yeah we gotta start running some more experimentation on that one oh my gosh well you
01:56:35.780 No, well, Noah, is there any other municipality the Canadian Taxpayers Federation has an eye on in terms of being a wasteful spender?
01:56:46.200 For example, I don't know if this landed on your radar.
01:56:51.360 In the town of Whitby, about 107,000 people east of Toronto, they spent, I believe last year, $1 million for a single revolving door.
01:57:04.900 One million.
01:57:05.800 I don't know how you can spend that on one door, even if you tried.
01:57:10.340 Are there any examples like that in municipalities outside of Toronto that you have your eye on? 1.00
01:57:16.900 Well, I'm looking at some of the big races that's happening. 1.00
01:57:21.000 You know, I only have two eyes, so I can only look in as many directions as, you know, the two eyes give me.
01:57:25.480 But, you know, for example, Mississauga is mayoral race.
01:57:29.580 There's a lot of candidates who are making all sorts of different promises on taxes.
01:57:34.040 And it seems as if Alvin Tejo has won.
01:57:37.800 But it remains to be seen how politicians who get elected actually start governing.
01:57:42.620 Because, you know, you can make a promise to not increase property taxes or to do X, Y, and Z with property taxes.
01:57:48.560 But when you get into office, are you actually going to deliver for taxpayers?
01:57:52.680 Not just some taxpayers, but all taxpayers who are looking for relief with the rising cost of living.
01:57:58.060 I'm looking at also Ottawa, you know, the second biggest city in Canada, in Ontario, sorry, and I'm living in Ottawa right now.
01:58:06.360 So I have a little bias there. But, you know, Ottawa voters reelected Mark Sutcliffe, who did keep property tax hikes around 2% annually.
01:58:15.140 But is he going to continue delivering for taxpayers? Is he actually going to continue rooting out government waste?
01:58:20.660 or is he going to follow the example of some of the other big tax-hiking mayors
01:58:26.020 and ratchet up property taxes on people who just can't afford to pay more?
01:58:30.840 And before you go, Noah, I just noticed the most recent results in 47.4% for Brad Bradford,
01:58:39.380 46.7% for Olivia Chow.
01:58:42.340 So now it's narrowed to less than 1%, which is what everybody was saying.
01:58:47.340 It was going to be a photo finish.
01:58:48.820 Your thoughts?
01:58:49.400 Yeah, I know that, for example, Bradford, who is in the lead, he made some promises on taxes, promised to freeze property taxes in his first year in office, also reduced the land transfer tax.
01:59:01.880 And these are some good ideas that is going to save taxpayers money.
01:59:05.800 It's definitely a stark contrast to, say, a 9.5% property tax that Torontonians were hit with in 2024, right?
01:59:13.200 But again, these politicians, they can say one thing in the campaign, but are they actually going to follow through for taxpayers?
01:59:20.720 It's important that Bradford, or Chow for that matter, if she gets elected, deliver for taxpayers.
01:59:25.920 Don't hike property taxes on Toronto taxpayers.
01:59:29.900 Actually, Toronto property taxpayers, they can use a break.
01:59:33.840 Wait a minute, Noah. You're not inferring that politicians don't always tell the truth all the time, are you?
01:59:39.780 Oh, well, David, I've read a book or two in my life.
01:59:43.200 I think I can safely say I know how this game kind of works a little bit.
01:59:49.240 Even at your young age, how do you like that, Sue?
01:59:52.360 Pretty obvious.
01:59:53.400 My 13-year-old sister kind of understands it, too.
01:59:55.940 So it goes to show how transparent politicians can be sometimes.
01:59:58.920 You know what?
02:00:00.080 I'm so happy you gave us that anecdote because you have a 13-year-old sister who is engaged in the process.
02:00:06.920 And I would argue, Noah, there's too much lack of engagement.
02:00:10.420 so many municipalities you're going to see the turnout being around 30 percent what are your
02:00:16.760 thoughts given that the municipal government that's the one that affects you every day with
02:00:23.060 all the services they're responsible for why the apathy noah i i think a lot of canadians are just
02:00:30.600 really focused on their day-to-day and sort of just putting food on the table trying to get to
02:00:36.240 work and do do a good job while they're at it and and bring their kids to soccer practice and they
02:00:41.000 really only have time to pay attention to some headlines here and there and and uh whatever's
02:00:46.000 going on with the federal government catches uh the most headlines faulted by the provincial
02:00:50.240 government right that's where all the political drama is so i think a lot of taxpayers uh get
02:00:55.620 caught up in the headlines but it's important that taxpayers are staying vigilant at all levels of
02:01:00.860 government sure the the federal government they can impose punishing carbon taxes on you
02:01:04.640 but your mayor can also impose a crazy nine and a half percent property tax hike on you that has
02:01:10.260 just as big an impact. So I think voters should be paying attention to what happens in their
02:01:16.040 municipality. It's very important. They waste just as much money as the federal government does.
02:01:21.420 And it's really an area of politics where you can have a much bigger and outsized impact compared
02:01:27.240 to say voting in a federal election. But you know, Noah, I will challenge you on your premise
02:01:31.640 And you're absolutely right. Everyone's got to worry about, you know, their their work, getting the kids to soccer practice, hockey prep, whatever.
02:01:40.060 But you know what? There are so many opportunities with advanced polling to go out on a weekend.
02:01:46.880 Surely you can make 20 minutes to do that. I don't think that's too much of an ask.
02:01:52.840 But here we are. And we'll we'll see what the I'm predicting, however, we might get over 50 percent turnout in Toronto.
02:02:00.600 I think it's going to be much higher than before. 0.88
02:02:04.960 Unfortunately, Olivia has leapt ahead.
02:02:07.480 Yes, I see by more than 5%.
02:02:09.820 I see the grifter vote has been calculated.
02:02:13.500 Well, Noah, it was a pleasure having you on, sir.
02:02:16.480 Your federation does superb work.
02:02:19.740 And thank you for your insight.
02:02:22.280 Thank you very much, guys.
02:02:23.500 And try not to stay up too late.
02:02:25.200 Okay, we'll try.
02:02:26.440 It's past my bedtime now.
02:02:30.600 There you go. You know, I've got to tell you, Sue Ann, I would never go stilt walking in
02:02:37.480 Toronto. And you know why? I think that's about the most dangerous thing possible. We
02:02:41.700 are a city, even though we're in the 21st century, we have 18th century public transit
02:02:46.640 called streetcars. That stilt goes in a streetcar track. You're doing a 20-foot faceplant, lights
02:02:53.600 out, game over.
02:02:54.600 Well, talk about that. What about bike riding? You have to be so careful.
02:02:59.600 oh yeah yeah in toronto you know and you know the irony is that olivia chow has pushed bike lanes 0.99
02:03:07.260 and the biking agenda but if you don't fix the roads yeah it's not just cars in fact the bikes
02:03:15.320 feel it more because i've been in my car and my on my bike and you know flying over all these
02:03:22.140 ruts and potholes but not fun when you're on a bike and so unless anyone thinks i'm anti-bike
02:03:29.120 that's not true cycling is my number one form of exercise i have a gorgeous racing bike and
02:03:37.920 i mean cycling suanne is why i'm fat merely fat as opposed to circus fat okay so i've never heard 0.64
02:03:45.740 that yeah so if i if i don't get my candy ass on that saddle uh you're gonna see the blob part two 0.69
02:03:52.260 the point is i've always gone around town without a segregated bike lane and toronto as you know 0.95
02:04:01.000 suen the worst gridlock in all of north america yeah that beats los angeles that means mexico
02:04:07.540 city we're third in the world after london england and dublin ireland and i'm telling you it's you
02:04:13.880 don't have to be a scholar in mathematics you take two lanes of traffic and reduce it to one
02:04:19.660 you've got double the volume on one lane of traffic of course that adds to the gridlock
02:04:25.360 i'd say we got to get rid of all these um bike lanes i'm sorry they were on a frenzy to put in
02:04:31.320 as many as possible and they've got this very radical left transportation department tory was
02:04:36.760 the worst during covid he snuck in all these lanes on university avenue hospital row yeah
02:04:43.760 Danforth, all those bike lanes. So he was the one who started all of this. There was no thought given to how it would impact on traffic. And Jennifer, do you remember her, Jennifer Kiesmat? She was pushing Eglinton Connects. So I'm not near, so we suffered through 12 years of the LRT build, more than 12 years.
02:05:07.780 then what they do is because the lanes were reduced now they've put in bike lanes along
02:05:14.360 no one uses them correct except the motorized e-bikes yeah that are going to pick up food
02:05:23.880 which the cyclists hate by the way and i almost got run over by one today
02:05:27.980 but by the way probably a leftist i'm gonna respectfully correct you you said the city
02:05:34.300 didn't put any thought into putting in those bike lanes i'm sorry you're dead wrong they put a lot
02:05:39.420 of thought in it there has been a war on the car yeah for over 25 years in this city and they're
02:05:45.900 winning they didn't think how it or care maybe how it would impact but my point is they put them in
02:05:52.460 on eglinton but there's a belt line just south of eglinton where you can ride all the way through
02:05:59.100 there was no need for these bike lanes but sue ann believe me the strategy is for motorists to
02:06:05.740 get so frustrated yeah that's it i'm going to be a cyclist that's it i'm going to be public
02:06:11.020 use public transit no motors just sit in their car steaming with their white knuckles on the
02:06:17.660 steering wheel they ain't moving it's been a failed ideological well they don't care about
02:06:22.940 the demographics either because we're an aging population i don't age but other people do so
02:06:28.940 So I can't take my mother, who's 93, on the back of my bike to Sunnybrook Hospital for a checkup.
02:06:35.700 It just won't work.
02:06:36.600 And Sue Ann, if it's a nice September day, plus 25, a little different than January when it's minus 25.
02:06:43.620 Exactly.
02:06:44.280 And that's the other thing.
02:06:45.680 Four months at least, when only the diehard people are cycling.
02:06:51.680 But I'll have to tell you something.
02:06:53.220 There was a huge snowstorm a couple months ago.
02:06:55.920 And what got plowed first?
02:06:57.480 The bike lanes.
02:06:58.120 tell me the logic there yeah because they're not used and didn't you write a column when you were
02:07:04.420 at the sun it was fascinating when they do the bike lane census how many people are using it
02:07:10.300 they exclude the winter yes and i always asked for those stats and it would take them forever
02:07:16.960 to cough them up and then it would be like 400 people yeah a week 500 people i mean it was
02:07:25.140 outrageous. Unbelievable. I'm sorry, Sue Ann, as much as I love cycling and depend on it for
02:07:30.940 fitness, I ain't cycling in January. I am not going to freeze my ball bearings off. Yeah.
02:07:37.200 There you go. Yeah. Now we're looking at the returns here. Yep. Brad is still trailing.
02:07:44.560 Ooh, it's 51.7% for Olivia.
02:07:49.140 For Ford to 43. 0.98
02:07:50.320 And 43.3.
02:07:53.060 It doesn't say how many, I mean, it gives the percentage and the total votes.
02:07:58.620 How many polls are in.
02:07:59.220 Yeah.
02:08:01.400 Is that beyond their scope?
02:08:03.320 I don't know.
02:08:04.760 We're just lucky to get results.
02:08:08.400 So I think they've counted all downtown Toronto.
02:08:11.800 The activist vote, obviously, is in there.
02:08:13.960 yeah okay well then the further they go north the better it is for Brad Bradford well I'd love to
02:08:19.760 know how they're doing in Scarborough well that is the wild card isn't it they're saying it's
02:08:25.280 swaying Olivia Chow I don't really know why though you know I mean no and and and because she played
02:08:32.160 that she played Scarborough like a finely tuned violin because she'd go out there and put their 1.00
02:08:37.760 costumes on mingle with whatever cultural group she'd put a schmutz on for this group and she
02:08:43.940 put on a a long dress for the other group and she'd dance with them and mingle with them and
02:08:49.860 it's those carabana costumes i can't get oh my god i you can't unsee that can you
02:08:57.060 i mean there's certain there's something called age appropriateness isn't there
02:09:01.540 i mean my goodness by the way i'm just going to double check with um
02:09:05.220 super producer efren and olivia uh do we have martin ross
02:09:09.460 morning shortly now i'll set the table for you um so and as we mentioned in the beginning in case
02:09:19.300 you just tuned in martin ross never a politician a citizen who was bullied intensely by his
02:09:28.500 municipality which is the city of markham north of toronto what did he do he installed a hockey rink
02:09:37.220 his kids the neighborhood kids other kids they loved it uh by the way sneaky patrick brown in
02:09:44.900 brampton has a hockey rink in his backyard that makes martin ross's uh look like child's play
02:09:51.860 that's okay but the city said you get that rink out of there or we'll come in and i think the
02:09:59.220 first estimate was something like 400 000 to demolish a rink that didn't even cost that much
02:10:04.820 it's insane because they have union labor and they charge overtime and all kinds of premiums
02:10:11.300 unbelievable so martin ross as the saying goes you can't fight city hall well guess what tell
02:10:16.980 that to martin ross he's a fighter he decided to buy a new pair of running shoes he went canvassing
02:10:22.180 all over markham which is considerable real estate and um i don't know what the results here are in
02:10:29.700 that race but you've got to admire you know put their money where their mouth is exactly yeah like
02:10:35.220 karima you know it's the same thing you know good for them because it's not easy running a campaign
02:10:40.900 i ran in 2009 it's very tiring it was exhilarating but no and and you get a some terrible pushback
02:10:50.260 yeah um you know so well um so we're just waiting on martin folks and um you know
02:10:59.540 what do you make of this though uh suen because he had his local counselor at the time a guy
02:11:05.620 called mcalpine he basically said i have to admire the honesty uh if anything else he had
02:11:13.300 evidently eight complaints in the writing about his rink and he said so martin i've got eight
02:11:19.620 that say nay one you that say yes so it's eight to one i'm uh siding with the naysayers and but
02:11:27.140 i thought aren't we supposed to be getting kids active get them off the couch get them off their
02:11:32.420 phones their video uh games and yet somebody does that and uh so these were eight complaints
02:11:40.020 for his rink that was in his backyard correct the story is sue ann he is in unionville very tony
02:11:46.900 part of markham yeah if he lives in a heritage property and you are not allowed to alter a
02:11:54.020 heritage property he didn't alter the property the rink is in the backyard you can't see it
02:11:59.940 from the the street meanwhile one of the biggest complainers was his next door neighbor
02:12:05.700 who's put an addition on their heritage property and added a guest house nothing to see here folks
02:12:13.140 because they vote for McAlpine who's not running this year and they're a financial donor isn't it
02:12:19.940 funny how that works yeah well that's how i met my wife unbelievable look at that that to me that is
02:12:26.820 a thing of beauty right yeah a hockey week that that's canada that's canadiana and i wish we had
02:12:34.260 more ross uh to discuss you know when city hall gets a hold of a complaint or complaints like that
02:12:41.060 they're like dogs they do nothing most of the year but they love this sort of stuff they're
02:12:45.940 like dogs with a bone yes and they will not leave you alone yeah they uh i've seen it i did a lot
02:12:52.820 of stories on different people who were you know just harassed non-stop because a neighbor had
02:13:00.260 complained that's how i met denise oh your wife yes well city hall was harassing her over a
02:13:09.220 driveway she had widened with the full permission of the city she went through all the hoops
02:13:15.380 but it i don't think it went through community council they screwed up not denise it was nothing
02:13:20.660 to do with denise her neighbor who we think was homophobic got a hold of the complaint got a hold
02:13:27.620 of found out about it and they started harassing her and they wanted her to rip out the driveway 0.99
02:13:33.540 Pardon my French, but how is that any skin off his ass that you have a widened driveway? 1.00
02:13:39.100 Well, she widened it because she had a grandmother who was in a wheelchair and she wanted to bring her to her house. 0.99
02:13:43.980 Wow.
02:13:44.620 So, I mean, it was terrible how she was treated at City Hall.
02:13:48.100 But again, Sue Ann, how does that affect him and his property and enjoyment of it?
02:13:52.860 It doesn't, but he was, you know, he was harassing her.
02:13:58.380 And how did this story end?
02:13:59.680 uh well i got on the scene i did a story okay and i had to go off the story because we became
02:14:06.360 involved oh but the counselors you know who helped her rob ford rob ford got unbelievable
02:14:12.560 nowhere near rob ford's etobicoke no he she went to see all the counselors and he said he'd help
02:14:19.220 her and he did yeah oh wow fantastic um well oh we have martin ross with us uh the mayoral
02:14:27.420 candidate in uh markham uh martin i'm almost ready to give you uh two minutes for delay of game uh
02:14:35.100 you were due here five minutes ago but never mind i told your story to the folks your hockey rink
02:14:40.620 saga it uh inspired you not just to vent about it not just to go to the media about it but to
02:14:48.700 actually run for mayor tell us amarn what was it like uh in your rookie season running for mayor
02:14:56.380 of markham you know what david it has absolutely been an amazing journey i've met some great people
02:15:03.500 i have learned so much the love and support that i've got from so many residents of of the city of
02:15:09.900 markham i mean even this morning when i was taking my dog for a walk down unionville main street
02:15:14.940 i was stopped by many people saying hey you know what good luck we already voted for you
02:15:21.100 you know we really need change we want you in there and we love everything that you brought
02:15:25.820 to the table with your platform martin do we have any results for markham as of now you know what
02:15:31.340 only one poll has come in and i think that was the advanced polls i'm kind of getting smoked right now
02:15:35.580 in the advanced polls with that one poll but as you saw olivia chow was trailing a little bit there
02:15:40.300 and she's uh she has now surged ahead so i'm hoping maybe the same thing opens here happens here in
02:15:45.020 markham i hope that she doesn't surge ahead no for for me miss levy that's what i can say and you know
02:15:53.580 i mean the odds let's face him um you're a good guy um we did a lot of coverage of your saga
02:16:01.900 uh you did nothing wrong i think it was egregious what the city did the mayor the
02:16:07.420 the councillor who's not running this year um but let's face it going up against an incumbent
02:16:15.340 just based on name recognition that's you know half the game in municipal politics isn't it so
02:16:21.500 So if things don't go your way this year, are you going to be back in 2030?
02:16:27.040 I'll be back in 2030 for sure, 100%, David, because this city is broken.
02:16:33.800 This city here has many, many issues.
02:16:36.420 Forget about my rink issue.
02:16:37.580 That's over and done with.
02:16:38.920 It's never coming back.
02:16:40.400 I took the big loss on that.
02:16:42.440 But I came here for many other reasons.
02:16:44.980 I put my name in the hat to be a mayor because, as I mentioned to you,
02:16:48.820 the city's broken and there's so many things and so many issues that need to be addressed in this
02:16:53.120 city to make Markham a better city. And you know, Martin, I think I've asked you this before,
02:16:59.180 but what I learned from your story being in a so-called heritage property in the Unionville
02:17:05.420 area, what I learned was this, you're not the sole owner of your house, you're a co-owner with the
02:17:11.820 city. And I'm telling you, my friend, I want no part of that. I don't want the government
02:17:17.060 uh being half the deed and not making any of the mortgage payments if you know what i'm saying
02:17:22.820 why not just move go to a community that they would welcome your backyard rink as they should
02:17:29.340 as opposed to putting up against all these belligerent bureaucrats and politicians and mark
02:17:34.660 them well my kids are almost 17 and almost 19 now so the rink issue i mean like that that was put
02:17:42.780 there for for them you know three four years ago when they were much younger and they would have
02:17:46.820 a lot of use out of it um the heritage easement agreement that they put on it yeah i mean you have
02:17:52.820 a point that you're a co-owner but they manipulated it and used it to their advantage it's never been
02:17:58.100 taken to court they were put into place in 1970 and never taken to court until me i was the very
02:18:06.420 first one that they ever took to court and i heard miss levy say that sometimes when the city is on
02:18:11.700 an issue they're like a dog on a bone and they just keep going and going and going which is
02:18:15.620 what they did with me right and you know heritage homes are great they have great character um
02:18:22.260 they're a joy to have there are a lot of upkeep there are a lot of extra work
02:18:26.660 but you have a point that you're the co-owner and if the city chooses to bully you on this
02:18:32.500 they can and they will i mean i think i was a bit of a unique situation because i see how toronto
02:18:39.620 operates with their heritage homes and and they work they work quite well with the the residents
02:18:44.980 that have residence properties it was just me i was the the the unlucky target and martin in the
02:18:51.800 department of the process is the penalty what did you rack up in legal fees because you initially
02:18:57.360 tried to get justice in a court of law didn't you yeah uh david having to pay because i lost twice
02:19:03.620 having to pay their legal fees and and then having to pay legal fees yeah david you don't even want
02:19:08.920 know that number would just yeah i do kind of it would make your it would make your stomach turn
02:19:15.520 david it was in the hundreds of thousands and martin what uh your hockey rink aside which
02:19:21.560 inspired you of course but when you went door knocking and i know you uh put in hundreds of
02:19:27.520 kilometers of uh walking door to door what were you here what is the biggest concern of those
02:19:33.680 people in markham that well they're not living in heritage properties with hockey rinks in the
02:19:38.380 backyard what was the number one concern that kept coming up in Markham you know there were
02:19:43.620 several of them David I mean like there wasn't a door that I knocked on that they said you know
02:19:47.940 what and I went to thousands of thousands of doors Dave I gotta be honest you I was putting in
02:19:52.240 since the the last week of June I was putting in literally 20,000 steps a day I've lost I mean you
02:19:57.820 haven't seen me in a while and you can probably tell I've lost a ton of weight since because
02:20:01.460 I put in 20,000 steps a day every day knocking on doors and a lot of the issues were the same I mean
02:20:08.000 And a lot of them said, not one person said to me in all the doors that I knocked on saying, hey, we're good with Frank.
02:20:12.940 They were upset with the complacency.
02:20:14.680 They feel that he had lost.
02:20:16.360 Frank is the incumbent there who's been here for 20 years for people who don't know.
02:20:20.460 They said they feel that he's lost touch with the residents.
02:20:22.540 He's lost touch with the city.
02:20:24.040 He doesn't care about the city anymore.
02:20:26.540 Overdevelopment has been a huge, huge issue here.
02:20:30.440 There's no lobbyist registry here in Markham.
02:20:36.120 They were very rattled by the bribery scandal that took place with the head of the Planning Commission, Arvind Prasad, who Frank hired.
02:20:46.540 They weren't happy with that.
02:20:48.180 So they're very frustrated with traffic.
02:20:50.620 Traffic here is a nightmare.
02:20:52.760 I can tell you in Markham, David, do you know it takes an hour to get to Markham from Markham?
02:20:58.940 So everybody in jail.
02:21:00.780 So, yeah, I mean, they're really frustrated with the traffic situation here.
02:21:04.280 but the traffic situation is built because of the overdevelopment.
02:21:11.080 So that's why we have the traffic problem
02:21:12.440 because the overdevelopment here is just, you know, over the top
02:21:16.620 and they have eight more towers going up not far down the street from me
02:21:20.360 that are going to be 40 stories each.
02:21:22.400 So I don't know where they're going to get the infrastructure.
02:21:24.680 I don't know where they're going to get the people.
02:21:26.560 And these were things that they were very concerned about.
02:21:29.180 So, Martin, if that is the case, and assuming Mayor Scarpetti wins another term, what does that say about the electorate, that you're hearing almost unanimous complaints about how the city is run, but he's going to be re-elected nevertheless?
02:21:47.400 I can't even answer that one for you, Dave, because like I said, there wasn't a door that I went to that said, you know, thank you, but we don't want your brochure. We're happy. We're happy with Frank.
02:21:57.540 some people i'd get to the door and they would you know say to me and this is many people they
02:22:02.720 would say to me oh you're running for mayor okay well what are you going to do for this city and
02:22:06.420 then before i'm about to tell them and then then they would start going on a rant and i'm like
02:22:10.000 you know what maybe i'll just sit here close my mouth and not risk upsetting you because
02:22:14.540 you're answering your own questions right now some people i'd get hi i'm running for mayor
02:22:19.060 of mark i'm out of my mouth they take the brochure yep i'm voting for you wow you don't
02:22:23.160 my platform so and this is this this is a guy who didn't put up one sign not a t-shirt not a pen
02:22:29.940 not a coffee mug not a brochure he wouldn't he wouldn't debate me i i've called him out on
02:22:35.320 instagram there was no debates whatsoever markham i think we're the only municipality who probably
02:22:40.260 didn't have a have a debate you know whereas toronto had four mississauga had seven we had
02:22:44.980 zero that's so and your take on that well i think he's gotten very comfortable in his job
02:22:51.880 and he thinks he's untouchable and unfortunately the voters you know are always right not that
02:23:00.540 they are always right but they don't take the time they'll complain a lot but they don't take
02:23:07.020 the time to investigate the issues or to find out i mean i was so disheartened when i was at city
02:23:14.320 hall by some of the election results because they x the box or i guess you fill in the circle now
02:23:21.920 uh of the person they the name they recognize there's you got to remember too that if this guy
02:23:28.580 frank scarpetti has been in you know in office for what you said 20 years 20 years he's going
02:23:34.740 for 24 but he's been at city hall for yeah well first of all there should be term limits we talked
02:23:39.120 about that but they'll never vote for their own term limits but the other thing is that he's
02:23:45.300 probably made a lot of promises to a lot of people and they feel they owe them and i'm not
02:23:51.640 going to use the c word which is comfortable comfortable corruption whatever i'll use it and
02:23:59.220 i don't have a problem using it but you know that that's the thing they make a lot of promises
02:24:03.960 and people feel they have to i mean it's like my own counselor in midtown he's been around a long
02:24:11.480 time he's helped the people he thinks will get him ahead he ignores the people he knows don't
02:24:19.000 like him but he has enough of a back you know enough people propping him up to get him back
02:24:25.440 in office and that's the same i mean even more so with the mayor he's probably made
02:24:30.520 deals with developers and you say all these towers are going up i mean i've seen it time
02:24:36.220 and time again all you have to do is look at his 2022 election campaign donations yeah exactly
02:24:43.360 all developers all developers yeah 85 of the donors were from outside of toronto i'm sorry
02:24:50.900 outside of markham yeah right 177 000 i don't even know where the many went because
02:24:55.800 like how much does it cost for a pack of gum and three coffees yeah martin we have to wrap uh but
02:25:01.840 i before we do i think you told me that mayor scarpetti is one of the highest paid mayors in
02:25:09.620 canada the highest the highest what is he earning per year because i thought kevin ash was way up
02:25:15.780 there no he's he was a hovering somewhere it's always varies back and forth but it's between 308
02:25:21.580 and 360 third highest paid america dollar for dollar makes more than the mayor in new york city
02:25:26.400 how is that justified given markham's population because he pretty much dictates his own salary
02:25:33.000 yeah back in gave himself an eight and a half percent raise after raising our taxes three and
02:25:37.620 a half percent and gave all the the councillors a four and a half percent raise and this is right
02:25:43.160 in the middle of you know all of us you know as citizens struggling financially and he goes and
02:25:50.380 Gives himself a $25,000, $30,000 raise.
02:25:53.100 Basically spitting in your resident's face right there, if you ask me.
02:25:56.280 Well, he's very cozy.
02:25:57.880 He's very comfortable.
02:25:58.680 And unfortunately, he has enough people who, you know,
02:26:05.260 I'm not going to use any of the corruption words,
02:26:08.460 but enough people that he's helped along the way.
02:26:11.380 Well, Mark, we got to wrap it here.
02:26:12.800 Assuming he gets back in, as they say in Leaf Land,
02:26:16.580 there's always next year or next term.
02:26:18.860 so yeah i see what you're doing there right here david i see what you're doing there very good
02:26:24.640 you're not on thin ice okay martin uh you you played a great game out there i miss your rink
02:26:31.460 even though i never skated on it i i'm sure it still devastates you to see that you know
02:26:36.980 gaping hole where the rink used to be and uh it was a travesty um but um you know good for you
02:26:43.880 for getting engaged let's leave it at that and i won't stop and i won't let the citizens of mark
02:26:49.680 come down okay good luck my friend thank you both all right yeah it's um you know we don't
02:26:57.540 have the results uh the full results the number of polls um certainly in the city things seem to
02:27:04.220 be city of toronto that is things are definitely swaying olivia's way i mean she's um i think i
02:27:10.280 saw almost are they calling her did i just see olivia wins
02:27:15.280 okay um in any event um what does this say so when we're talking about so many municipalities
02:27:27.900 get about 30 turnout and then you'll get the guys like martin ross uh in markham scott wilson
02:27:35.020 in wainwright um and not only are they voting but they're declaring themselves a candidate kareem
02:27:42.480 assad too and that kind of uber engagement i think when you see these individuals win lose or draw
02:27:51.880 um you know there's no excuse not to vote and speaking of which uh i guess it was too good to
02:27:59.740 be true wasn't it sue and in the early going yeah it looks like with a 54 share uh olivia chow wins
02:28:07.060 it looks like the polls from two weeks ago indicating she had a double digit lead have
02:28:14.600 come to fruition okay i'm moving out of toronto thank you you know what um i'll tell you uh i keep
02:28:22.240 thinking of my exit strategy um you know sue and all i have to say is if you like needles and parks
02:28:29.620 if you like homeless encampments everywhere if you like no-go zones if you like dangerous public 0.84
02:28:36.020 transit if you like somebody who throws the jewish community uh under the bus the bus um 0.99
02:28:43.600 and you like almost 20 property tax in three years well then you endorsed her the people 0.76
02:28:51.400 of toronto at least the majority of you but the problem is that she really really um
02:28:57.540 coat I'm using the word cozy it up again but she really worked those communities who don't know
02:29:04.980 really what she's all about or don't care they identify with her she doesn't speak proper English
02:29:11.460 she wears their costumes it's it's all performative and they don't you know until it hits
02:29:18.680 their pocketbook or until it affects them they you know voters are basically brain dead a lot
02:29:26.480 them don't forget her allies the public sector unions oh tremendously and the other thing the
02:29:33.120 other thing is that we in toronto have a huge population of activists and grifters as i call
02:29:41.600 them and she promised free this free that free ttc free this free that and you know these it's
02:29:50.080 like the mandami effect these people are attracted to whatever they can get for free they don't care
02:29:58.240 that the city is going down the tubes i care because i covered it for so many years and i've
02:30:03.680 seen the decline but i have the luxury of being in you know down south in the winter i have the
02:30:09.360 luxury of not being in toronto in the summer but i feel sorry for people who have jobs here and
02:30:15.360 have to live you know their life so you mentioned uh islamist kami momdani uh of the mayor of new
02:30:21.680 york city his solution is to open state-run or city-run grocery store she did propose that
02:30:28.240 she did she her playbook was pretty much what he proposed like these guys know how to run a 0.94
02:30:35.840 I called her chow dummy. No, but seriously, he hates Jews, grocery stores, free. Well, he never 0.99
02:30:45.920 did deliver the free buses. Yes, taxing the rich. So she, you know, there has been talk that she
02:30:52.460 may increase the vacancy tax, the vacancy tax to 5% from two from three. So, I mean,
02:31:00.760 and then the activists like her because they have jobs because of her uh harm reduction
02:31:08.500 uh the homeless industry she and jack created a homeless industry so i mean the writing was
02:31:14.960 on the wall i secretly hope that it wasn't but it i i honestly thought it was going to be a little
02:31:21.800 like i said it's uh kind of like well virtually any game involving the detroit lines don't touch
02:31:27.700 it no but you know what i i i mourn for toronto um you know as i said i know that i'm not no i'm
02:31:37.840 not as welcome in this city anymore as a jew or being a jew and i know that i'm not welcome in
02:31:45.580 canada as much how you know so and the great tragedy is toronto was one of the best safe
02:31:51.960 havens yeah jews yeah in the world not anymore and i notice you have a star of david yeah
02:31:57.380 and we're at the point right now where we you even have people in law enforcement saying to
02:32:04.960 Jews can you hide your Jewishness oh I wouldn't do that but you know I would tell them I would
02:32:10.280 tell them where to shove it yeah um but you know and the other thing is the police there's been 0.99
02:32:16.140 two-tier policing you mentioned law enforcement you were up at Bathurst and Shepherd many times
02:32:22.020 oh i've been arrested there yeah on occasion how many times have you been addressed well
02:32:26.500 in 2004 alone five times yeah uh and uh i'm of the opinion uh suen i'm i'm i'm this is not
02:32:35.220 tongue-in-chief i i i think hamas runs the toronto police service yeah it's like well
02:32:40.900 they arrest peaceful counter demonstrators they invest arrest members of the independent
02:32:46.020 press what the hell is that myron demku has been such an ineffectual police chief how does he have
02:32:51.300 a job still he blocked me on x early on because i quit after 10 7 because i criticize his 0.69
02:32:58.420 weak approach too so you know so he's got thin skin too oh he has but it's going to be more of
02:33:05.300 the same and yep i think i'm already mourning what toronto will become over the next four years uh
02:33:12.740 i can't see but i don't need to i don't need to spend time here that's the thing yeah i've got
02:33:18.180 the resources to go but well and uh the way things are going for me i i i can't even envision retiring
02:33:26.340 i i think i'm gonna die on the job so you know we in the jewish community have been talking about
02:33:32.260 plan b the exit strategy oh and i know a lot of people talking oh it's definitely real yeah that
02:33:39.700 and uh and again that's on olivia chow's uh file for sure yeah um guys do we have anyone else
02:33:48.180 Okay, then, let's go to my favorite mainstream media reporter.
02:33:59.500 I was teasing Joe Warmington, the squaller of the Toronto Sun.
02:34:04.460 I love him dearly.
02:34:05.800 Yes.
02:34:06.500 You know, over the last couple of weeks, he's been sending me stuff, tweets and stuff.
02:34:12.060 Oh, fantastic.
02:34:12.780 um you know because he knows how much i oh what hey what about you galini can we get her to
02:34:23.500 oh she can't come back oh i'm sorry we we missed my colleague at the beginning
02:34:29.660 and she cannot come oh i think i see joe joe looks like he's uh joe you look like you're in
02:34:36.540 uh a tunnel somewhere
02:34:41.980 oh joe we can't hear you you're on mute
02:34:53.340 how do we first syllable
02:34:57.660 joe you're mute on zoom sorry folks we'll get this right everyone's here
02:35:02.620 he is a print journalist remember we're not all that
02:35:10.020 joe
02:35:12.700 mute
02:35:15.340 do we have yeah hey joe okay we can hear you we were uh almost ready to play uh party game from
02:35:27.640 the old days of ch ch tv and hamilton joe thank you so much for joining us as i said folks this
02:35:33.940 is uh my favorite mainstream media in the whole wide world joe warmington the scrawler of the
02:35:39.620 toronto sun um and joe uh you have skin in the game in terms of the mississauga race because
02:35:46.660 that is actually where you live and we talked off camera the other uh day and your prediction came
02:35:53.740 true uh and a lot of some other people are predicting it of uh tendrils going up the middle
02:36:00.220 can you tell us what the dynamic was in mississauga that led to this well it's affordability
02:36:06.460 you know his campaign was about free raising taxes and the other two they'd raise taxes i
02:36:11.740 mean no matter how you spin it suan knows that uh watching them for years also it's definitely a 0.89
02:36:17.820 change election i mean they definitely split it the two ladies you know served for a long time
02:36:24.220 they did split it up but elvin had a a huge number for mississauga and you know people
02:36:30.780 are just tired they're tired of bonnie crombie and they're tired of carolyn parish so they've
02:36:35.260 gone this this route here um you know it's an interesting thing because he's kind of a mysterious
02:36:43.100 person you know people don't really know you know who he is or you know he's been on council but
02:36:50.700 there's a lot of kind of mystery about him and now that he's in trust in the spotlight it's a
02:36:54.460 really nice guy i just was talking to him i was uh i just left his campaign and you know he he's
02:37:03.500 he's interesting i think he's kind of surprised even though he ran a really good campaign what
02:37:10.060 i was going to say about him is i see him at the rink because his kids are the same age as my son
02:37:15.900 i see him at the baseball diamond and so he's a guy who's living the mississauga life
02:37:22.220 and i think that's why he won and i think he you know i i the jury's out on whether it be a good
02:37:27.740 mayor a lot of the people that support them um you know this kind of thing they have their own
02:37:34.700 agendas and that kind of thing but all three candidates were like that suen knows what i'm
02:37:38.700 talking about. Yeah, I certainly do. He wants to boycott Israel. Yeah, I talked about that, Joe,
02:37:45.980 and that's shameful. And certainly, if Alvin is the big winner, Joe, I think Bonnie Crombie
02:37:50.940 is the biggest loser here. I mean, I think this is her David Eby moment. She was the mayor
02:37:58.060 of Mississauga. She was endorsed, which was huge, by the former mayor that seemed to serve forever,
02:38:03.980 hazel mccallion she left to lead the liberal party of ontario uh that was a disaster she came back
02:38:11.900 and not only does she not win third place joe did you see that coming i did um you know it was one
02:38:20.780 of the scenarios i thought of i mean you know she's kind of like uh you know you said it best
02:38:26.060 i mean she had the golden key and it wasn't good enough for her she got bored not just to run for
02:38:32.300 the liberals but for two years before that they were talking about her doing that that was where
02:38:37.820 her heart was she thought she could come and knock premier ford off and get that easily and become
02:38:44.220 the next liberal premier and that was her ambition and mississauga uh they already sent her that
02:38:49.580 message the first time and i know suanne remembers that too when she got beat by patrick brown's
02:38:56.140 wife's uh mother uh is in um oh his mother-in-law right yeah mother-in-law yeah his wife's mother
02:39:04.860 or his mother-in-law yeah um i forget her name right now i think it's jerry or a name like that 1.00
02:39:10.860 but but um somebody hadn't been in politics she got uh bonnie crumby got her butt kicked there
02:39:17.740 and so i wasn't surprised that it happened here you know carolyn parish an interesting 1.00
02:39:23.740 person she would have been wiser to to just take her two and a half years and you know she got to 1.00
02:39:29.820 be mayor she always wanted to be mayor she didn't do the worst job i mean she made some big mistakes
02:39:34.940 including around the pro-hamas stuff uh and the stuff about the israel flag and all those kinds
02:39:41.100 of things and again sue ann and i go way way back uh with carolyn parish back into the chretien
02:39:47.340 government when she stomped on the canadian flag yeah and she's always been pro-palestine and
02:39:53.660 it's not none of that's new it's not new for her um i i didn't know she stomped on the canadian
02:39:59.260 flag i remember didn't she stomp on a doll of george bush that too yeah she does a lot of stomping
02:40:07.340 first time i ever uh met uh or talked to tucker carlson was when she was on the debate with 0.60
02:40:14.700 tucker carlson he was on cnn in those days and he you know he completely whooped her and that thing
02:40:21.100 but you know she's growing up uh there's a lot of a lot of nice things about carolyn parish too
02:40:25.980 and bonnie crombie and i did give them both uh you know a little bit of a tip of the cap for
02:40:32.220 their their careers they're both retired now alvin tetchel retired them tonight
02:40:35.900 yeah too bad we couldn't retire olivia chow right joe yeah so uh you know what um i'll tell you why
02:40:45.260 i'm not surprised about that one there's a couple of thoughts i just want to say one thing okay
02:40:51.260 i've already said i'm mourning toronto but if chow at 70 soon to be 70 appears
02:40:59.660 in one of those carabana costumes again i am going to call the fashion police please i scare easy
02:41:09.420 you know i i did a column on on her you know being the dress up mayor and all that stuff
02:41:16.580 i call her the dancing queen oh when when we did that column when we're doing the pictures
02:41:22.040 there were so many you couldn't put them all in i mean she's dressed up as everything for for
02:41:27.500 everybody and uh but but i'll tell you something um i knew that bradford was in trouble yesterday
02:41:33.640 because i drove in for mississauga with my family and we went down through the city you know do
02:41:39.260 through the junction and and all that stuff it's always a fun thing to do on the weekend and you
02:41:43.760 get to see all these neighborhoods you know i kind of did it semi-purpose but mostly because
02:41:48.080 thanks to chow not or and and we'll blame doug too the go train was down and a lot of the subway
02:41:54.760 was down so so you know the highway was jammed of course so that's why we went
02:41:59.380 through but i never saw one
02:42:01.340 brad bradford sign
02:42:02.880 anywhere in the west and i was all through northwest
02:42:06.240 and then down south
02:42:07.960 not one and then finally in little italy
02:42:11.000 at the death of the cafe diplomatic all
02:42:13.780 there was a book
02:42:14.460 for excited i was excited to see that i took a picture of that i wait wait a
02:42:17.780 minute 0.63
02:42:18.520 eight feet away there was a olivia chow sign 0.99
02:42:21.280 so diplomatical they don't care who they're serving their pizza and pasta too 1.00
02:42:25.400 uh...
02:42:26.560 there are no dummies over there but uh... so they were there for both but you
02:42:30.400 know i knew he was in trouble then
02:42:32.100 the other thing too is that i'd say was just saying this
02:42:34.820 to ross mcclain a minute ago
02:42:36.900 uh... not a different podcast but uh...
02:42:40.560 the the an interesting thing is that
02:42:43.500 trotter was no place
02:42:45.740 where the
02:42:47.440 the people on the public
02:42:49.840 you know, the public sort of...
02:42:52.160 The public service, yeah.
02:42:54.020 The grant getters, I call them the grifters.
02:42:57.840 That's bigger now than the private sector.
02:43:00.860 Right.
02:43:01.220 And so whether it's universities or all this stuff, welfare, on it goes.
02:43:06.560 I don't know if I've ever heard, maybe you know Sue Ann and David,
02:43:11.740 I don't think I've ever heard of a mayor getting 430,000 votes in Toronto.
02:43:16.960 That might be a record.
02:43:18.040 I don't know.
02:43:18.440 i'm just off the top of my head i don't 490 joe well because there are two only two candidates
02:43:24.520 but if you added up all the votes from 20 was it 2022 2023 yeah so she basically split the vote
02:43:35.120 with anna bio and that would have added up to 450 or whatever um but i said the same thing i did a
02:43:43.600 column i was just going through my columns this afternoon um toronto's become a tale of two cities
02:43:50.800 basically i call it a tale of two cities because you've got um the people who actually make an
02:43:58.520 honest living or you know because there were tons of brad bradford signs in midtown where i live
02:44:05.880 so it depended on the area of the city and there are people in downtown toronto the grifter class
02:44:13.400 I call them the activists the drug industry the homeless industry and yes they are starting to
02:44:20.780 outnumber the people who actually you know make an honest living and you know and are not involved
02:44:30.120 in activism just live their lives and I could see it I could see what he appealed to and I could see
02:44:36.980 what she appealed to with all her free free free we were just talking before you came on she's like
02:44:42.820 chowdami i called her mandami very similar i agree with um sue ann uh we spoke about this earlier uh
02:44:52.340 most of my driving in toronto is around the north toronto and i i estimated on private property
02:44:58.740 bradford signs maybe two or three to one however it's the south of bluer people abbreviated as sob
02:45:06.500 you know what i'm saying yeah uh that's where um the uh big left uh bailiwick is and uh i guess
02:45:15.300 that carried the day for her and i mean east york for example i don't know if that perennial
02:45:22.420 politician nathan nate erskine smith won but there apparently is a lot of islamists in that area now
02:45:31.780 don't discount scarborough i mean i was talking to a friend today who is in my community and he
02:45:38.160 said oh we really rallied we got people out we voted but we can never in numbers outdo the
02:45:46.000 uh immigrants and refugees who've come to toronto not necessarily to make it better i might add
02:45:53.500 well it's a you know what if she's going to be up around 500 000 what does brad's vote count now
02:46:00.120 uh we haven't seen a recent figure joe but um i think when but it's like 350 350 or so so it
02:46:09.520 fits into the scenario 396 almost 400 000 to olivia chow's 522 000 and change you know you
02:46:19.020 know i think suen has hit on something they're very interesting like the you know the people
02:46:24.140 that have come here in the last few years from places like syria and these kinds of things they
02:46:28.900 don't forget all the people who come here yeah and in other places as well there's
02:46:35.940 there's many people from all over the world and they gravitate uh because of you know and i helped
02:46:42.840 bring the interpreters here from afghanistan and there was lots and lots of federal money
02:46:46.640 to help them get started they gravitate over into that mindset but there's another factor i don't
02:46:52.320 know how much of a factor but i i thought it would be a factor tonight you know brad has done very
02:46:57.520 well with over 400 000 votes um but he didn't get we'll see what if it bears out but in his home
02:47:05.120 east york beaches area no he wasn't all that popular because he spent a lot of time trying
02:47:10.680 to get the rest of the city on board and we were hearing that he was in trouble in his own area
02:47:16.420 that's never good when you're running for mayor well that i agree with you on that joe that and
02:47:22.380 also the fact that I have a friend who lives in that area, a Jewish friend, and he said there's
02:47:27.640 a lot of Free Palestine signs around that area. Oh, come on. No, I'm not kidding. East York. So
02:47:35.260 I think there, you know, there are a lot of people who don't necessarily, didn't necessarily
02:47:43.180 agree with his, you know, approach. Gee, I'm surprised I used to live in East York, Sue Ann,
02:47:50.260 in the 90s and I didn't know we have that underclass there shall we say yeah but I think 1.00
02:47:59.120 you know I did a video the other day I don't know if you saw it but if anybody's watching and I know
02:48:07.280 I want to do a shout out to my buddy Del who's watching right now because he's texting me and
02:48:13.340 he said hey I'm just watching you on with Sue Ann and Menzoid my good friend from out at the cottage
02:48:19.100 and you know i did a video on city hall and i showed 20 or 30 people sleeping and i showed
02:48:31.060 several videos of rats right on nathanville square yeah jumping around you could do a really
02:48:38.020 good video manzoid to go there i just said let's go together yeah get effron or lincoln or somebody
02:48:45.880 to you know just to set the camera rolling you know just leave it there for a while because
02:48:52.280 you know that i didn't have it so i just got it on my cell phone but you could really there's
02:48:56.380 hundreds of rats there joe and you know the set well joe i if sorry to interrupt i don't have to
02:49:01.780 go to city hall my friend i i saw that video it sent shivers down my spine for the last year and
02:49:07.600 a bit we have a rat in our garage i have bought every rat trap known to men there's yeah this
02:49:14.720 that's just a regular rat
02:49:17.200 mine's the size of a small beaver
02:49:19.420 and it is a super
02:49:21.500 intelligent rat it knows the traps 0.81
02:49:23.700 I can't get rid of this 0.99
02:49:25.680 rat so the rats are
02:49:27.460 everywhere I guess you know what we have to do guys
02:49:29.280 Alberta Alberta is a rat free province
02:49:31.660 did you know that? Joe
02:49:32.880 you know that makes me very sad because
02:49:35.400 you know I was
02:49:37.500 in City Hall for a long time
02:49:38.980 I was there for a long time
02:49:40.940 and
02:49:42.680 In 2005, there was a huge problem with people sleeping on the square with the same thing.
02:49:50.020 And the, you know, the pressure was applied and they were probably finally removed.
02:49:55.280 So obviously under Ms. Chow, or as I call her, Chowescu, this problem has reemerged.
02:50:04.300 You know what, Joe, I'm going to tell you something. 0.98
02:50:07.320 I said this to Menzoid, I mourn for the city. 1.00
02:50:10.120 and i can escape i can escape escape down south i can escape up north i don't have to be here 1.00
02:50:18.400 but for the people who are working every day i think this it's going to be on life support
02:50:24.140 i really do well i i 100 agree with you that's the the metaphor for the rats i mean i've been
02:50:31.000 all over the world i've never seen rats at a city hall before no and you know the healthiest the
02:50:35.600 healthiest beings in city hall were actually the rats because the people there were high
02:50:41.020 they did that fentanyl fold uh there's all kinds of swearing yelling people are not healthy they're
02:50:47.080 dying there right in our city hall and i saw people from all over the world trying to take
02:50:52.300 pictures of the toronto sign next to a guy that was like humped over with that fentanyl fold
02:50:58.160 yeah you know he's in the pictures and this is our city and now after tonight the toronto wants
02:51:04.380 this they want to be a fentanyl city they want the whole thing to go into the sewer and it will 0.68
02:51:11.100 go into the sewer because chow doesn't run anything she just gets her briefing notes and 0.76
02:51:16.400 she shows up and she does a good job at cheerleading uh at different events and she dresses up like 0.99
02:51:21.900 she's a islamic or she's a seeker whatever it is um you know of course she does she's uh late to 0.89
02:51:29.600 the the aid of the jewish community we saw all that there's other things she doesn't show interest 0.95
02:51:35.420 in whether it's saint patrick's day parade or whatever she's very very uh clear in her
02:51:41.580 she's very selective what she does she's very selective and uh you know joe i you didn't hear
02:51:48.800 me say this to to menzoid but i'd never seen the jewish community rally so much as they did
02:51:55.420 in this election the numbers but the numbers weren't there unfortunately i was out all weekend
02:52:01.260 canvassing putting door knockers on and people were coming out and saying i've got five proxies
02:52:07.020 but we don't have the numbers unfortunately and and joe they're going to leave the city
02:52:17.900 it's already happening joe i've already written stories about people moving down south people
02:52:24.240 making aliyah to israel um i was just there and i heard from some people who have moved there
02:52:30.680 and uh the only thing that stops me is the exit tax which is carney's nice little punishment
02:52:39.700 yeah wanting to live leave canada joe in the department of uh plenty of blame to go around
02:52:46.480 let's not forget why we're in the chow disaster. 0.95
02:52:52.000 And that's because of John Tory stepping down. 1.00
02:52:55.520 I mean, I just find it perversely ironic
02:52:57.460 throughout John Tory's political career. 0.99
02:53:00.160 He was such an uber loser. 0.96
02:53:02.460 He finally wins, becomes mayor of Toronto. 0.99
02:53:06.980 And well, you know what?
02:53:09.080 Wasn't thinking with his big head, shall we say.
02:53:12.140 Gets caught chasing his mistress around the cottage.
02:53:16.440 The funny thing is, Joe, I don't think a lapse in morality is a political death sentence.
02:53:24.540 I think of John Tory, and by the way, not a huge John Tory fan, but compared to Olivia Chow, it's a far better option.
02:53:34.140 I think if he just did a mea culpa, I'll do better.
02:53:37.320 Life would go on.
02:53:38.720 I don't know why he had to do this drama of resigning and then contemplating coming back in.
02:53:45.860 But, so not only did he sentence us to three years of Chow, 0.59
02:53:49.820 now it's going to be seven years of Chow.
02:53:51.420 Well, and I want to, speaking of John Tory and speaking of Doug Ford,
02:53:55.320 I think they're the people who put up Chris Alexander to run.
02:53:59.520 And I think they were working behind the scenes.
02:54:02.000 They did not want Brad Bradford to win.
02:54:05.060 Doug Ford wanted Olivia because she's weak and he thinks she's pliable 0.82
02:54:09.780 and he can, you know, bribe her with money. 0.99
02:54:11.900 Well, he basically endorsed her.
02:54:13.440 Yeah.
02:54:13.740 Remember?
02:54:14.100 Read between the lines.
02:54:15.080 So just don't forget that those people were working behind the scenes.
02:54:18.260 And I heard that Tory was very jealous that, you know, Brad was running and that the city didn't want him again.
02:54:24.800 Wow.
02:54:26.680 Well, when it comes to Tory, I know where David was going with that was, you know,
02:54:33.220 why did he feel that he could have just taken a month off and got his family stuff together?
02:54:38.920 I don't think anyone really cared about the affair all that much.
02:54:41.940 um it was interesting because his scandal was way bigger and you know don't forget if you look at
02:54:48.500 the report i mean they were found he was found guilty of numerous things it's ironic that you
02:54:54.280 know they were tory and his friends were so you know hell-bent on getting rob ford out of office
02:54:59.960 and they did it um you know they didn't do it but they you know they achieved some of success with
02:55:05.300 that and rob certainly helped a little bit but they they really went after him yeah there was
02:55:10.220 really nothing too much on tory scandal which was way bigger and in the report it talked about how
02:55:17.260 he had to use his power to get his mistress who worked in his office a job down at the um
02:55:25.900 scotia yeah and and that's a uh you know you can't use that influence so he would have had to
02:55:33.660 deal with that but the other problem was that with the and i know that you both will remember
02:55:38.780 in the case of tory um we heard about that affair a month or so before it finally came out but
02:55:48.400 nobody was reporting it because nobody had really nailed it down we'd heard it uh it wasn't uh you
02:55:55.800 know verified next thing you know gets verified somebody very close to john tory uh wanted that
02:56:03.160 that story out and that's the reason that he left and because you know you could do your own math
02:56:08.760 on who that would be i think sue ann knows who it was that wanted it wanted that you know they
02:56:14.760 wanted whoever that person was that leaked all that to the toronto star if that had been leaked
02:56:19.640 over to the toronto sun to myself we would have done that story based on who we believe that
02:56:24.920 person was because that's a person in the know and that you know so it was very very tough for him
02:56:31.560 because you know out of that he had a major we have some video footage
02:56:38.840 okay let's hear it okay just one second joe thank you bradford who's conceded she's about to
02:56:51.640 Oh, thank you so much. What a night!
02:57:05.640 Tonight, the people of Toronto have spoken!
02:57:10.640 And you have given me the extraordinary honor of continuing to serve as your mayor.
02:57:27.640 I am grateful, I am humbled, and I am so proud of our city.
02:57:35.640 What an election. It was a hard-fought election.
02:57:47.640 And I want to begin by thanking every candidate who put their name forward, especially Councilor Brad Bradford.
02:57:56.640 We had our differences. We fought hard for what we believed in. Counselor Bradford brought
02:58:13.820 new energy and introduced new ideas that people cared about and made his case for them and
02:58:21.480 And I respect that, and I know we share a love for Toronto and a belief in its future.
02:58:39.000 Now we can disagree on how we get there or what it looks like, but I do not doubt.
02:58:45.460 We both want what is best for our city, right?
02:58:54.280 And tonight, I want to thank everyone who participated in our democracy.
02:59:08.380 Because democracy is something precious, something we must never take for granted.
02:59:15.400 Something, yes, something we have to work to maintain with our votes and with our hard work, always.
02:59:34.400 Now, now that the election is over, the work of coming together begins.
02:59:42.400 I want to say something to every person in Toronto tonight, whether you voted for me or voted for someone else, whether you thought your voice mattered or wondered if anyone was listening.
03:00:00.580 And especially to the many people who call Toronto home, who work here, raise families here, contribute to our city every day, but could not or did not vote.
03:00:15.080 I am your mayor too.
03:00:26.080 I am the mayor of every neighborhood,
03:00:29.080 every community, every person.
03:00:36.080 Every person who calls Toronto home.
03:00:40.080 Whatever your background,
03:00:42.080 whatever you believe whoever you love wherever you live I will listen to you
03:00:54.180 I will stand up for you and I will work every day to earn your trust
03:01:02.260 because that's what being mayor means to me it means serving everyone yes everyone you know
03:01:20.080 you know you know I came to Toronto from Hong Kong when I was 13 years old my mother hosted
03:01:32.140 was a hotel made cleaning rooms she worked hard and on her wages she could
03:01:40.480 afford an apartment in st. Jamestown she could put food on our table and I grew
03:01:47.920 up in a city where an immigrant kid could become a school trustee a
03:01:53.080 counselor a member of parliament
03:02:02.140 And eventually your mayor.
03:02:17.620 I have never forgotten.
03:02:20.600 Well, not exactly the Gettysburg Address, but Joe, my BS detector, the needle went into the red zone when she said she's the mayor of every community,
03:02:31.860 every person um she uh well not every community not every person hey just ask the people who've
03:02:40.700 left toronto jews who have left toronto i will say this um to play a little bit of a devil's
03:02:47.780 advocate on that we have to give it to her 522 000 votes it said i don't think i've ever heard
03:02:54.740 of a canadian politician ever getting that vote count that probably is a record i mean we'll have
03:03:00.320 to check it uh because there's not that many people in you know the writing so that's a hell
03:03:05.980 of an achievement uh as for her speech that's her best speech that she's ever given that i've seen
03:03:11.500 that's the most uh you know uh that doesn't say much you know you know but you have to admit that
03:03:19.000 you know that's a fired up speech uh she won fair and square uh this is what people want
03:03:24.740 They don't want, you know, this is what they want.
03:03:29.660 And so we'll see what she, you know, she does.
03:03:32.820 But I'll tell you, in her own area around Kensington Market,
03:03:35.740 I was there on the weekend.
03:03:37.440 I don't know if you've seen that St. Stephen Church there.
03:03:41.080 There's all these stuff growing out of it,
03:03:43.600 and there's people that are high lying around it.
03:03:46.540 Instead of the tents there,
03:03:48.560 they put all these ugly signs about harm reduction.
03:03:51.780 across the street there's always a lineup at the food bank there um that's her area
03:03:58.420 uh that she represents she lives around in the you know right around the corner from there
03:04:03.060 uh that is what we're going to see uh perhaps i mean hopefully not but because the economies
03:04:10.740 are dead and you can't just do it uh because you can say well look at there's more people
03:04:16.340 there's more welfare there's more programs this kind of thing you've got to grow the economy
03:04:22.580 and you've got to grow it out and they can't just say well we're going to do it
03:04:25.860 okay by getting people free drugs and bring more and more more people here with nowhere for them
03:04:31.620 to live and these kinds of things and when you hear the buzzwords about affordable housing
03:04:36.820 and this kind of stuff um you know that's communism it's socialism it doesn't work every
03:04:42.100 Every time you build this kind of stuff, and even in Toronto we've had experience with
03:04:46.480 this.
03:04:47.480 She mentioned St. Jamestown and different things, there's stabbings and shootings every
03:04:51.940 day.
03:04:52.940 I mean, I've been a reporter in Toronto for 35 years.
03:04:56.720 I know how dangerous some of those buildings are.
03:04:59.920 You know, we had a nine-year-old boy that was killed in the building.
03:05:02.580 We had a police officer this year, Penazoto, that was killed.
03:05:06.800 These kinds of things.
03:05:08.000 And so, you know, this is not to say that it wouldn't have happened under other mayors.
03:05:13.040 It certainly happened under Rob Ford and we had the Egan Center shooting and under John Tory.
03:05:17.920 But, you know, what we're looking for is something different than what the NDP and the left are offering.
03:05:25.480 But that's what people wanted. And I'll leave it with that thought.
03:05:28.620 You know, Joe, very quickly, you mentioned subsidized housing. 0.99
03:05:33.700 um one of my mysteries about how olivia chow comes back from a scandal you remember the late 80s her
03:05:42.820 and her late husband jack layton living in subsidized housing they were making well over
03:05:48.060 100 000 co-op and christie batchard the late christie blatchford broke that story and you
03:05:56.400 know they moved out and they moved in with once they were exposed yeah with mommy they were making
03:06:01.400 well over a hundred thousand one third of it by the way tax-free yeah and these are 80s dollars
03:06:06.840 when a hundred thousand dollars meant something not so much today so um you know that kind of
03:06:13.000 hypocrisy um taking away a unit for people that were really down on their luck and deserving it
03:06:20.600 is shameful and really i don't know how you come back for i think that's a worse scandal than what
03:06:25.400 happened to john tory quite frankly well and the other thing is that people aren't aware but she
03:06:29.800 She lives on four pensions plus her mayor's salary.
03:06:33.420 She has Jack Layton's...
03:06:34.140 She sort of admitted that.
03:06:38.400 She mentioned about she was a trustee.
03:06:40.920 Yeah, trustee, councillor, MP, Jack Layton's widow's benefits.
03:06:47.340 So she is not hurting whatsoever.
03:06:50.980 And I'll say one thing about Kensington, Joe,
03:06:53.940 because I was down there this past summer,
03:06:56.480 and I met our old colleague, Zen, and his wife for dinner.
03:07:02.640 We came out, we were at a pretty fancy restaurant and came out
03:07:06.560 and a woman, two women, drugged out women, were walking down the street 1.00
03:07:11.040 screaming at the top of their lungs right near where we had parked.
03:07:16.400 And can you imagine a tourist coming from Toronto and being exposed to this?
03:07:23.120 I would love to know what the tourism numbers are.
03:07:26.480 uh in toronto now i would love to know how people i've heard all kinds of stories that people will
03:07:32.420 not come back because it's just you know full of addicts and all kinds of crazies yeah i and joe
03:07:42.100 you're old enough to remember we spoke about this earlier peter ustinov's famous quote toronto is
03:07:47.400 new york is run by the swiss uh maybe toronto is new york is run by somalia right now as far as i
03:07:54.120 can tell. It's a mess. Run by Hamas. We got the Hamas window canceled. Or Hamas. And I think,
03:08:00.340 as Sue Ann said, I echo it. I don't care if she's won fair and square, which she did. I give you
03:08:07.580 that point, Joe. But we're on the wrong trajectory. And I think we might be looking back at 2026 as
03:08:15.480 the good old days, the way this city is going come 2030. Well, yes, I feel... You know, I think
03:08:23.700 you're going to see more of an exodus of jews as well wealthy jews i was just going to say that
03:08:29.180 the the park i can't think of the name of the park but it's in north toronto and there was a guy that
03:08:36.220 was um it's a jewish fella and he was walking his dog and a former a former police officer
03:08:43.020 came in and shot him six times oh joe wenderly park when i was that's the park of my childhood
03:08:50.620 that I lived within walking distance on Lawrence Avenue.
03:08:54.860 All you need to know about Toronto is that.
03:08:58.160 You don't know anything about that.
03:08:59.740 We just know a Jewish guy was shot.
03:09:01.500 They never said why. 0.99
03:09:03.560 And, you know, it has that same look as the kind of murders
03:09:07.960 that were, you know, similar anti-Semitic murders in Europe
03:09:11.240 and other places. 0.90
03:09:12.360 It felt like that.
03:09:13.700 Yeah.
03:09:14.180 And what I fear is that with her back in office, 0.98
03:09:18.340 they the pally we call them the pally tards um the terrorist sympathizers will feel it's open 0.95
03:09:27.060 season now and you know the police aren't that's what i'm worried about and you know what guys um
03:09:32.880 my beloved colleague is there right now paris france how many years away are we from paris
03:09:38.920 i wouldn't say years i would not say years at all wow
03:09:43.080 well joe um welcome to the happy hour with sue ann levy and david no i'm just a realist
03:09:52.740 we gotta we gotta wrap things up soon i'm gonna give you the last word my friend
03:09:56.560 joe will say leave now sue ann leave now leave now 0.95
03:10:01.860 keep keep fighting um look at you know yes she won an election but bradford also pulled in 400
03:10:10.420 thousand votes and uh there's a lot of people that that don't like the direction as well and so you
03:10:17.060 know just keep on doing it we'll expose all these different things the other day i did a story uh 0.79
03:10:23.460 that was over there in allen gardens and when you go down gardens i've seen menzies get roughed up
03:10:28.580 in there uh i've seen lots of people with the you know the fentanyl and all that stuff and yet the 0.79
03:10:34.820 people that they kicked out this is olivia chow's people were these uh they were actually sikhs or
03:10:40.420 punjabis that were feeding the homeless in there and they didn't have a permit and they you know
03:10:46.020 they give them tickets and you know i've seen this kind of thing where it's only about the public
03:10:52.420 service about the unionized people making lots of money we have a you know obviously uh the project
03:10:58.180 south the corruption and the police service they end up giving the chief of four chow gave him a
03:11:03.540 four-year extension she knew about project south we didn't know about it so she gave him the extension
03:11:10.100 knowing that that story was going to break so so you know now to sue ann's point and this is my
03:11:17.140 my final thing is the message has been sent people want this they want them to act like this so
03:11:23.620 they're going to act like this it's going to become a city where the powerful are going to
03:11:29.780 be able to dominate the people that don't have the same numbers and what we've gone through since
03:11:35.380 october 7th 2023 is it's we're gonna see a lot more of that joe i'll just add i'll add something
03:11:42.740 i hate to be negative but that's it i'll add something to that um we say when you bring in
03:11:48.500 the third world you become the third world and i think a lot of people moneyed people people who
03:11:56.660 just can't take it anymore are going to leave and you're going to have all these people who just are
03:12:01.860 waiting for their handouts who are living off you know public dole or whatever and that's what's
03:12:08.900 going to happen to this city and i feel very bad about that and you know what joe i wrote about
03:12:15.060 that in 2018 i said toronto is going to become like seattle before long cassandra oh joe thank
03:12:24.580 you so much for making time i know it's been joe it's nice to see you again i wish we had a better
03:12:30.580 result it's nice to see you and you know what you've done a great job covering all the stuff
03:12:34.820 since 10 7. you have so joe you you get home and get some much needed rest okay all right all the
03:12:41.300 best thank you okay thank you joe love that guys yeah and um i i'll just check with super producer
03:12:48.100 olivia do we have anyone else on deck i guess we're done in more ways than one oh boy am i ever done
03:12:56.500 sue ann i want to thank you so much oh i had fun i had fun i'm not i'm not happy with the result
03:13:02.960 either am i but uh i had a great time i hope our viewers had a great time too um and i wish we had
03:13:10.520 results earlier but um i thought we had some great guests oh yeah and um you know so uh there's
03:13:17.720 always next year or next four years but uh and i hope you're wrong about that i'll be in the
03:13:22.620 florida bureau for a couple months please don't rub it in oh to be in the free state of florida
03:13:28.020 um but uh anyone who voted for chow in the next four years in this city that complains about
03:13:36.140 homeless encampments needles in the park litter graffiti crime uh anti-semitism in the streets
03:13:44.580 going unchecked and i'm talking about chanting genocide displaying swastikas cosplaying as
03:13:50.900 terrorists camming around fake grenades at least we hope they're fake uh well you can't complain
03:13:57.380 you you voted for more of the same you got a preview you got a three-year preview of what
03:14:01.920 you're getting for the next four years and um that's it so uh did toronto learn its lesson
03:14:08.440 no um but torontonians never do that's the thing not i'm telling you the grifter class has taken
03:14:15.300 over the city and they the far left and they never do learn and they don't care and so 0.90
03:14:24.720 good luck to them and you know what seattle has also elected a loony mayor
03:14:31.340 uh katie wilson whose people have discovered very quickly is driving the city in further into decay
03:14:39.220 so look at some of the blue cities in the states and you'll see where we're headed the seattle
03:14:45.500 mariners and the toronto blue jays both came into the american league in 1977 little did we know
03:14:51.040 we both devolve into hellhole seattle used to be a beautiful city and same with toronto um and uh
03:14:58.980 I don't know.
03:15:00.320 You know, and they elected somebody in San Francisco
03:15:03.580 who's actually done a good job of cleaning it up.
03:15:07.080 L.A. is not the...
03:15:08.500 Because I follow all these cities.
03:15:10.020 Yes.
03:15:10.380 And look where New York is headed.
03:15:12.200 Well, if I'm an American,
03:15:14.400 I'm going to a red state and a red city.
03:15:17.560 Yeah.
03:15:17.740 100%.
03:15:18.180 Yeah.
03:15:19.200 But we are a version of a left-wing Democrat city.
03:15:26.980 We are.
03:15:27.340 And moving that way as a country, too, I'm afraid.
03:15:30.060 Yeah, and Vancouver.
03:15:31.200 Yes, we are.
03:15:31.980 We are.
03:15:32.620 So I wish we had something rosier to say, folks, but the results came in.
03:15:37.620 Anyways, thank you to everyone that tuned in.
03:15:40.660 We appreciate it.
03:15:41.760 Thank you to my beloved co-host.
03:15:43.900 Yes, and you're giving me a hat.
03:15:45.860 Yes, to Ed Levy.
03:15:48.060 We'll see you back here in four years.
03:15:50.140 Maybe then we'll get the result we want.
03:15:51.960 In the meantime, folks, as always, stay safe and stay sane.
03:15:57.340 Thank you.