Parts of Australia and all of New Zealand are under martial law. If Trudeau tried that, would anyone stop him？
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What would happen if Justin Trudeau said vaccines are mandatory and if you don t take them, you go to jail? If that comes to Canada, is anyone going to speak against it? I look into that question today. I also talk to our friend Andrew Lawton about the documents that were released in Parliament about the WE Charity charity.
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Hello, my friends. What would happen if Justin Trudeau said vaccines are mandatory and if you
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don't take him, you go to jail? I know that sounds crazy, right? Well, it sounded crazy in
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New Zealand and Australia, but I think that's sort of the point they're at.
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If that comes to Canada, is anyone going to even speak against it? I look into that question today.
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I also talked to our friend Andrew Lawton about the documents that were released in Parliament
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about the WE Charity. I hope you enjoy the show today. And let me encourage you to become a
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this podcast. Go to rebelnews.com and click subscribe. All right, here's today's show.
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Tonight, parts of Australia and all of New Zealand are under martial law. If Trudeau tried that,
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would anyone here stop him? It's August 20th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I have to say to the
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government of a wire publisher is because it's my bloody right to do so.
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You know, I criticize left-wing civil liberties groups, but I sometimes feel a burst of optimism
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and I join them and I even donate to them. Maybe because I hope they'll get better
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or maybe because if I'm a member, maybe they'll listen to me more than if I weren't.
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It hasn't always worked. I joined the Canadian Civil Liberties Association
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and I think I make a monthly gift to them. Nothing huge, but enough that I actually got a
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phone call by one of their donor development people. I don't know if I told you this happened
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a few months ago. Let me tell you the story of this briefly. This was in the early days of the
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pandemic. I'm guessing it was in April and the economy was absolutely locked down, just devastated
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and all the fundraiser, the Canadian Civil Liberties fundraiser on the phone wanted to talk
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about, though, was Black Lives Matter. Now, it was a white leftist fundraiser, I think.
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So I listened patiently and politely. I'm a member, you know, and he just wouldn't want to talk about
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anything else. You know, you would think that Civil Liberties, being the middle name of that
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organization, would be what he wanted to talk about, but he wanted to talk about Black Lives Matter,
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which is more of an American thing. Now, we had launched the fightthefines.com campaign. You know
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what I'm talking about? We've taken 11 cases in the public interest, civil liberties, citizens who
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have been bullied under inappropriate pandemic fines and rules. So we were out there fighting
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the good fight, but bizarrely, the Canadian Civil Liberties Association wasn't, and I get the phone
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call from them. Now, I think this should have been their shining moment. It really was, you know,
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touching on martial law, like the October crisis, locked in your home, locked out of your business,
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maybe like the G20 crisis in Toronto, and the civil liberties group was literally doing nothing
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no lawsuits for freedom, no pushing back of the government. All they wanted to talk about on the
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phone was Black Lives Matter, an American movement, an American concept, so weird and alien here in
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Canada. In Ontario, the place that abolished the slave trade in 1793. So, being my famously polite
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self, I told this guy on the phone that if he really wanted a donation from me, and if he really
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insisted it be a black thing, all right, fine. I told him about this street that I know in Toronto,
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it's called Eglinton Avenue West, and there's a two or three block strip that has got to have a dozen
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barbershops on it. It is quite something. I love pointing that out to the kids when I drive by.
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Have you ever heard of such a thing? Just a couple of blocks? Barber, barber, barber, barber, barber. I
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should add one more important point. They're black barbershops. It's a Jamaican neighborhood,
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other Caribbean folks too. So, there's lots of specialty barbershops, and they're always full.
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Not just because their customers like to get haircuts and hairstyles, but because, at least as far as I
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can tell, barbershops there are sort of like pubs in another community. They're a place where people
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come by and say hi and chat and catch up on the latest news and gossip and sports and whatever,
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and people might hang out there for half the day, almost like a little community hall or like a
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legion hall or something. I mean, it's like the haircut is just an excuse to get together as a
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community. It's quite a thing, this strip of a couple of blocks. I like driving by. I haven't got
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a haircut there. I don't know if they would do hair like mine. Anyways, I love that a few blocks.
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And of course, that was all shut down because of the pandemic. And I don't know if you remember,
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but our David Menzies went out there and spoke to these heartbroken barbers whose businesses,
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and indeed, much of their lives just got banned from the government. Did you ever see this clip?
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Sir, why aren't the barbershops opened in this province in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, British
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Columbia? They're open there now, so why not in Ontario? The people have to talk to Doug Ford
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to do something for the barbers all over in Toronto. And we need help.
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Everything just cut off. Everybody praying that one day we'll be up again.
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We just don't want to sit down and have business and the business them closed, like barbershop.
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Everybody wants a nice haircut to look fresh, to take out the ladies or go somewhere.
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All the places them locked. They're over there, everywhere locked to the corner.
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Oh, I feel your pain. And I would imagine the barbershops here, sir, it's more than just a
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place to get your hair cut. It's a place to come in, socialize.
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Socialize with each other, talk about things, how you feel about what's happened.
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Are you looking forward to the barbershops reopening?
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We need hair cut. And barbers need to take care of their family, too.
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They're suffering a lot, as they can't come out here to do no work. People are suffering.
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So we want the Premier to do something for the barbers and the citizens of Canada.
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Now, I knew that, and I like those guys. I like that they're hardworking. And I got to tell you,
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being a barber is hard work. It's like being a restaurant owner or a waiter. You're on your
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feet all day. It's not high-paying work. You're hoping for tips. You have to pay everybody else
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first, the landlord taxes, whatever. It's tough. And these guys don't want to be on welfare. They
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just want to be able to work. And they were banned by the government. So I said to this fundraiser from
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the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, all he wanted to do was talk about black things. He's
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a white guy. And, well, I got to tell you, I just got caught up in the moment. I was trying to think
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positively. I got caught up in the moment. And I said to this fundraiser, I said, tell your boss,
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Michael Bryant, he's a former liberal politician who now runs this place. I said, tell Michael Bryant
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that if he wants to fight for black people, I'm with him. And I really said this. I just got carried
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away. I said, I would personally donate $5,000 to the Canadian Civil Liberties Association to go
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to court for these black barbers of Eglinton Avenue West. By the way, the Civil Liberties Office is on
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Eglinton Avenue East, not far away. So, I mean, look, Michael Bryant and the CCLA, they don't even need
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the money. They have in-house lawyers. They have pro bono lawyers. But if they're so obsessed with race,
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which I think is weird because they're so white and so liberal, but fine. Okay, I'm in. Here's five large
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to help fight for civil liberties of hardworking black Canadians. I can get into that.
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So imagine you're this young telemarketer and you're expecting maybe I'll give you a hundred
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bucks on the call and you get an offer of 5,000 bucks. Well, that will make your day. You're
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probably on commission. Maybe you're going to get 500 bucks or a thousand bucks for that donation.
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I don't know how they work there. I said, tell Michael Bryant I'm good for 5K if he helps one of
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those black barbers. Black barbers' lives matter. How's that? Well, it won't surprise you to learn
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that I never heard back from them. They still take my monthly donation, but they didn't get the
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five large. I think they should have taken those cases for free as part of their mission, right?
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Civil liberties. So if they're not going to take it for free, they're not going to take it for five
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grand because they just don't want to take those cases. They don't want to fight this pandemic lockdown.
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They still don't. Seriously, scroll down their website here. Kids in class, but
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but the civil liberties group isn't suing to stop the weird unscientific rules that kids are now
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subjected to with masks and shields and weird plastic cages. That photo is not even accurate.
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Not a peep from them about that. Scroll down. Coronavirus. Okay, you've got my attention,
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but read the fine print. We're monitoring the response to COVID-19 to ensure it's based on
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science and it's not unnecessarily intrusive to our civil liberties. Okay, so you're monitoring the
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situation. You're not actually going to do anything. You just got to monitor things.
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If they get really, really bad, they'll let us know. And maybe someone else will do something.
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Thanks, guys. Scroll down their website some more. There's something Islamic. I don't know what that
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is. Maybe it's about the hijab. Obviously, they're for the hijab. And then scroll down something about
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gay rights, which Canada has, by the way. I'm for rights of gay people, Muslim people, kids, blacks,
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whatever, to have civil liberties. I don't care what color you are. How about civil liberties?
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So that's your Canadian Civil Liberties Association. The CCLA is AWOL, absent without leave.
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What's even the point? Now, I tell you all that because other than a few noble efforts by our
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friend John Carpe and his team at the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, I just don't
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see a lot of people fighting back against the encroachment of our civil liberties in Canada. Do you?
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Where are all the opposition parties? Federally? Provincially? I think they're all too afraid to
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oppose, even though that's their job. There's one or two aldermen here or there who have opposed
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mandatory mask bylaws, but they seem to be few in number and obviously ineffective. Where's the
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opposition anywhere? Left or right? In politics, in the media, or the legal profession, academics?
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There are a handful. The Sick Kids Hospital, Toronto's excellent children's hospital, they published a
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statement that kids should be able to go back to school, normalize things, saying that we're
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overdoing it on kids. They were ripped to shreds by political shriekers who won't accept any deviation
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from the official fear policy, panic-demic. There's that young doctor from Brampton, Ontario,
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who normally would be a national hero. She's a woman of color, excellent, articulate physician,
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politically involved for a long time. She should be a rock star on the CBC, but she says, hey,
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maybe we're overdoing it with the fear. Maybe there's something to hydroxychloroquine and
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azithromycin. It seems to be having a huge positive effect in other parts of the world, including
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those she knows something about. She's talked about Kerala in India. Well, now she's literally
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being investigated by the College of Physicians and Surgeons for having a non-standard opinion,
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but she's a doctor. The social distancing fines that we went to bat for a couple months ago,
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they're being replaced with mask fines now. And do you doubt that'll be replaced by vaccine
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fines? I know I've told you this before. Trudeau's ordering 37 million syringes, the contract with a
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Chinese vaccine company affiliated with the People's Liberation Army in China. But now we see the
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template, not in some strange country, but in Australia and New Zealand, two countries quite
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similar to our own, culturally, legally, in temperament. Look at this. Breaking. Victoria
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police has issued 168 lockdown fines in the past 24 hours. 24 weren't wearing masks and 48 were
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breaching curfews. Here are some examples. People thinking the virus is not that serious seems to be
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a trend. All right. Here's a one-day compilation of what's going on in the Australian state of
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Victoria, where the great city Melbourne is. It's a city like Toronto, same size and importance,
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and it's under martial law. More strict than we saw in Canada in the FLQ crisis. Look at this. Are
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you looking? Someone just driving. That's the crime. Someone just walking alone. That's the crime.
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Did not have a valid reason for being out. Was more than 15 kilometers from home. Are any of those
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crimes now? You bet they are. Is there any medical science behind that? No. As I told you yesterday,
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more Australians under age 50 die from kangaroos than from this virus. This one's particularly
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telling. A family was given a fine because they told police they didn't think the pandemic was
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serious. I think that's pretty clearly the meaning here. Maybe if they had the right attitude,
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they wouldn't have been fined. So you see, this really isn't about science. It's about obedience.
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These people were skeptics, so they were fined. Here's New Zealand, led by the ghoulish and ghastly
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Jacinda Ardern, the former head of the Socialist International Youth. She's got quarantines and
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it's a life sentence. I think. What does this mean? What does this mean?
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It's to, um, I've got a number of questions about people, um, refuse, you know, what do we do if
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someone refuses to be tested? Well, they can't now. If someone refuses in our facilities to be tested,
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they have to keep staying. So they won't be able to leave after 14 days. They have to stay on for
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another 14 days. So it's a pretty good incentive. You either get your tests done and make sure you're
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cleared or we will keep you in a facility longer. So I think people, most people will look at that
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and say, I'll take the, I'll take the test. Oh really? So indefinite jail time. She would never
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call for that for an actual criminal. And now the elections are being delayed over there. Seriously,
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Jacinda Ardern will not give up power as constitutionally required. As you can see,
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the virus stats in New Zealand went from five people in the hospital yesterday to six people
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in the hospital today. I'm serious. That is it, people. Enough to shred the constitution. So back
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to Canada, where we have a weak opposition that I fear is about to get even weaker.
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Where most of our media is bought off by Trudeau's bailout. A civil liberties group that won't do
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anything other than virtue signal about Black Lives Matter. Just, just nothing. If vaccines become
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mandatory, untested, untrustworthy vaccines made in China to cure a disease that has a 99.9% recovery rate,
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who would fight back against martial law in this country? What happens if Trudeau sets up jails
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like Jacinda Ardern has done? If there are people who are non-compliant, there are definitely laws and
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public health powers that can quarantine people in mandatory settings. It's potential. You could track
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people who put bracelets on their arms, have police and other setups to ensure quarantine is undertaken.
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Look, I'm not into conspiracy theories. I'm just asking a question. Is there a single force,
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a counterweight in Canada that is stopping our country from descending further here? Or,
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I don't know, apropos or nothing, are you the kind of person who thinks that if you had been around
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in Germany in the 1930s, that you would have fought or even spoken against the currents and stood on
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principle? I'm not comparing the two. I'm just saying, at what point do you start to speak out?
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Ladies and gentlemen, we now know why Justin Trudeau shut down those parliamentary investigations
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yesterday. We have the documents right here. Let me start with an email from Michelle Kavokovic,
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one of the top Finance Canada officials. She, to start out with, says the Canada Student Service
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Grant is, quote, a bit of a shit show. And I'm quoting, excuse the language, but it's right there
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in the bureaucratic document. That's not how bureaucrats normally communicate in their official
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emails and memos back and forth. But apparently, this highly respected public servant felt it was
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an appropriate characterization. That was April 20th, exactly when the Kielbergers were in the
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process of negotiating to get this half-billion-dollar program set up. The same public servant writes
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another email to one of her colleagues in which she says that we is connecting with my minister's
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office. They are all besties. Besties. The finance minister's office is besties with the we organization
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that they're attempting to give a half a billion dollars.
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Just incredible. That's Pierre Polyev, the man who I wish was running for the leadership of the
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Conservative Party. The only Conservative MP I can think of who has distinguished himself in the public
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sphere in the last six months. Can you name me another Conservative MP or senator who has done
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anything of note, fighting against this government and anything important? I cannot. Doing another
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outstanding job. He was effective when there was a grilling of Justin Trudeau and Katie Telford,
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a very brief grilling a few weeks ago. But as Pierre Polyev points out, all those investigations,
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all those parliamentary committees, and remember, in a minority government, the opposition actually
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has a majority of seats on these committees so they can hold hearings and call witnesses that the
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Liberals can no longer block. Well, guess what? Justin Trudeau has prorogued Parliament and dissolved all
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those committees. They cannot work. They do not have the power to subpoena or summon people.
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destroys any investigations into him. Joining us now via Skype to talk about this is our friend
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from True North. His name is Andrew Lawton, and here he is. Andrew, great to see you again.
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It's my pleasure. I have in front of me a number of other emails, LinkedIn messages, little hellos
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questions amongst bureaucrats, and between politicians and we. Boy, they sure were chummy.
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You heard, you know, Pierre Polyev quoting one of them saying that the Kielburgers were besties
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with Bill Morneau. They were all part of the same family, really. Political family, cultural family,
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and they sure treated each other that way lavishly, didn't they?
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Yeah, and there was another email directly from Craig Kielburger to Bill Morneau, not dear minister,
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hello Minister Morneau, just hi Bill. And that is not something you do when you're talking to a
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minister unless you have a really familial or personal or more than collegial relationship. So
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I think the besties description is probably a pretty fair one here.
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Yeah. I have in my hands a note sent from Craig Kielburger to Ben Chin, the former left-wing
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broadcaster who's now a senior advisor to Trudeau. And Kielburger said, hello Ben, thank you for your
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kindness in helping shape our latest program with the government. Warmly, Craig. And Chin responds,
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great to hear from you, Craig. Let's get our young working. I mean, these, you know, Craig, Ben,
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besties. I mean, these, these were friends. And of course, listen, Kielburger gave Bill Morneau,
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who's a gazillionaire, gave him a $41,000 vacation for free. I can't even imagine what a $41,000
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vacation is like, but it's enough to leave a memory on a finance minister who says, oh yeah,
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how many hundreds of millions do you want steered your way? Yeah, we're besties.
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This is the Libranos as we always feared it would be.
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Yeah. And one of the things that really jumps out here is that it completely undercuts and
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undermines what the liberal Trudeau Morneau narrative has been, which is that, oh, you know,
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the public service was the only one involved in this and the government only just stepped in at the
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very 11th hour. And, and Justin Trudeau actually tried to slow things down. You know, he didn't
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just accept the recommendation. He actually said, I need to see more of this. And when you look
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through these documents, and I admit, I haven't gone through all 5,000 pages just yet, but when
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you look through the documents, Ezra, the one thing that becomes apparent is that there was never a
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point in which this program and we and government ministers, Trudeau ministers were not all involved
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in the discussion. Yeah. You know, one of the things that comes out, I mean, Craig Kielburger and his
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brother, they're very much creatures of Toronto and Ontario and that circle, but they're really
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nowhere in French Quebec. They're not bilingual. The organization is not bilingual. It's never been
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a thing. I think that's important for two reasons. First of all, it's a reason why the Bloc Quebecois
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is happy to stick the knives in. When it was SNC Lavalin, well, that was a Quebec company,
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pride of Quebec. Yeah, Quebec jobs are in a different class in Canadian politics.
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Well, yeah. And, you know, it really is a flagship Quebec company, SNC Lavalin. I do not excuse or
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tolerate their corruption, but it's the leading engineering firm that's really Quebec built. I
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know why the Bloc would be defensive of them, even though they're corrupt. We, they don't even,
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you know, we is the word yes. And for we, we, may we, monsieur, they don't know what this we
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charity is all about in Quebec. It's just a bunch of Anglo Toronto, I'll scratch your back if you
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scratch mine. So that's why the Bloc is sticking the daggers in. But there's one more thing here.
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It goes to the point, why would the government pretend that an Anglo-only celebrity charity for
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basically political insiders, why would anyone think they could implement this national program
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in both official languages in all 10 provinces and three territories? And that's an issue that
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comes out in some of these internal memos. People in government saying, hey, how come
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everything's only in English? How come the website's only in English? Have you forgotten
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that there's a world outside of Toronto? And I think they did forget.
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Yes. And in one of them, there, there's actually an email where someone in the civil service at some
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point is trying to say that they're not actually concerned or convinced that we does have the
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capacity to deal with this. So this idea that it was a sure thing that we could be handed the
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keys to this national program and the millions and millions and hundreds of millions of dollars
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that went along with it, which has always been what Trudeau has said about this, isn't actually
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aligning with what people in the government were actually saying about it as this was working its
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way through the channels. However, improperly, that process might have been manipulated.
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Yeah, there's so many things in these emails. And it is sort of spectacular to hear Pierre-Paul
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you have, quote, bureaucrats calling in a shit show. You know, the Canada Student Service grant,
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bit of a shit show. And the way it's positioned right now is not exactly how we will go forward.
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It's just like this was a mess. And you know, one more thing these memos show is that the
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politicians, especially Bartish Chagher, they were lying about their communications with we. I mean,
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I think we is worried, the Kielburgers should be worried of a criminal prosecution. I understand
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that the slumbering lifeguard, the RCMP that's been dozing for the last five years is maybe waking
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up and they might poke around here. If I were a Kielburger, I would be very scared, not just by this
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whole scheme to illegally lobby dozens of times to steer nearly a billion dollars their way. Huge
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commissions and overheads, but also the way they were handling so-called charitable funds in ways
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that do not look like charity to me. Very interesting. These documents don't lie, but the
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politicians who claim they didn't know, oh, I didn't talk to them, oh, I wasn't lobbied by them,
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Yes, that's, I mean, to go back to where I started off in this segment, Ezra, the one thing that's the
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most, I think, smoking gun-ish of this all is that all of the liberal government officials' positions
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have really just been completely shredded through this, that they weren't involved and that the
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public service was just working on this and knew that only we could do it. And then at the last minute,
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handed it to Trudeau and said, hey, we need your sign off. That didn't happen. The government was
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involved in this. And as that one email you read earlier on indicated between Mr. Kielberger and
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Mr. Chin, the liberals were actually helping this along. They were actually ramming this through the
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process, not just being passengers for the civil service's little dalliance.
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Yeah. Well, I got a question for you, and it's a heartbreaking question that I ask far too often.
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And it's, do Canadians care? I mean, the first step is, do they understand the nature of these
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scandals? Maybe it's too technical, too obscure. Maybe it sounds like bureaucratic gobbledygook.
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And if they do understand, or even if they don't, do they care? Do they care enough to
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withhold their love from Canada's national boyfriend, Justin Trudeau?
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It's a tough question. I think when we saw the SNC-Lavalin scandal break a year and a half ago,
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a lot of conservatives were saying, oh, this is going to be the end of Justin Trudeau.
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And, you know, I was among the more pessimistic types saying, no, no, no, we think he's going to
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skate here. I do anyway. And he did because people get over it. Now, the WE scandal is a lot more clear
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cut than SNC-Lavalin. You're not talking about things that people haven't heard of. So I think it's
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easily digestible in a way that past scandals haven't been. But at the same time, we also can
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look at what the Justin Trudeau government is trying to do now to get away from this, halting
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the committee's investigations, which means that the conservatives are going to be spinning their
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wheels, looking over 5,000 pages of documents over the next month in the really the summer break
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is kind of just happening now. And then when Justin Trudeau comes back and puts forward a new budget and
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a new throne speech, it's going to be full of shiny things. It's going to be full of giveaways. It's
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going to be full of all the things that government is doing to buy your vote. And I do think that will
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distract, especially if the mainstream media decides that it wants to focus more on the American election
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than on Canadian politics, which we know is a possibility and certainly one even in the last
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couple of weeks we've seen. So I don't say that to just be the complete pessimist, but there needs
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to be a level of caution here, which is that all of what's happened in the last few days is serving
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and is quite effectively setting up a distraction from talking about this, which is what the liberals
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are desperately trying to avoid. Yeah. You know, I think back to the other scandals, and I think
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the reason this is powerful is it dents one of Trudeau's brands. It shows he's a bit of a phony. For
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example, he claimed to be a feminist. Then we heard about his groping that reporter Rose Knight,
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and he said, oh, she experienced it differently. And that sort of took the bloom off the rose. He's a
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male feminist. Then with minorities, he sacked Jody Wilson-Raybould. He sacked Selena Cesar Chavannes.
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He did the blackface. And all of a sudden, he's not the darling to minorities and to indigenous people.
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Shows he was a bit of a phony on that. Well, youth, the youthful, these loving rock concert style
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wee gatherings. Yeah, he sort of liked them, but he was lining his pockets and those of his brother
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and his mother and his wife. I think what this does is one of his favorite things to do, go and give a
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blathery, Hallmark card style, shallow, feel-good speech to a bunch of kids. I think if he does that
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anymore, it's going to look just like a money grab or a conflict of interest. So one at a time,
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his sizzle, he's for the youth, he's for minorities, he's for aboriginal people. He, you know, he's a
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feminist. I think every one of those now looks like a fake or a con, and you're left with just this
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cool guy who's not that cool, this young guy who's not that young anymore, this hip guy who's not that
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hip, this woke guy who's not that woke. All the things that made him so shiny are scuffed now. I don't
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know if that's enough to kill him politically, but that's enough to make a lot of enthusiasm drain
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away from all those four groups I mentioned. I don't disagree with the premises, but the problem
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is, is that he won election after a lot of those things that happened, and after a lot of those
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things that have been chipped away. So it certainly exacerbates what has become a pretty significant
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trend, and I think the whole not-at-advertised narrative is one that the Conservatives have tried
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to pin on him. We are looking at a media double standard here. I mean, Ezra, like you know better
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than anyone, Bev Oda famously gets ousted on a $16 glass of orange juice. Well, we're talking about,
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you know, I think about, you know, how many millions of glasses of orange juice. I don't know. I can't do
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the math, but we're talking about millions of glasses of orange juice here, and the Liberals are still
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getting a pass in many respects in the media, and I think the real test will be how much does the
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press focus on what's in these documents? How much is the press going to fight for unredacted
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versions of them? How much is the media going to cover? And not just forget, when the parliamentary
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process resumes, when Trudeau's back, how many are they going to put to him and say, well, what about
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this, what about this, and what about this? Yeah, I think you're right, and I think the CBC's already
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in full launder and rinse mode for him, focusing on other shiny objects. If it's for love, it's how
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Chrystia Freeland is so amazing. If it's for hate, it's for how the governor general is so terrible.
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I think the CBC is in full spin mode, which is to be expected. Andrew Lawton, great to catch up with
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you. Thanks for your insights. As always, thank you. All right, there you have it, our friend Andrew
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Lawton. He is with True North. Our good friends over there, you can see everything they have to offer
00:31:11.900
Hey, welcome back to my interview with a former Facebook censor. Landrieu writes,
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Silicon Valley and the MSM have completely undermined democracy, free speech and free thought.
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Yeah, you know, what I keep finding amazing is that this story is out there. I'm not the only
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media who's talking to this guy. American media are too, but I haven't seen this reported anywhere
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in Canada, and he's not keeping it a secret, is he? MS writes, according to Facebook, Google, YouTube,
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and all these left-wing platforms, everything is hate speech if they disagree with it. Yeah, oh,
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yeah, you know what? Again, we talked about some examples. You can't criticize Greta Thunberg. You
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can criticize Nicholas Sandman, that kid in the MAGA hat who was shouted at at the Lincoln Memorial
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last year. There's such a double standard. You can call a right-winger a Nazi. That's fine. You can't
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call a left-wing feminist a feminazi. That's hate speech. Yeah. Susan writes, that's why I deleted
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Facebook. Yeah, well, you can't delete technology. You cannot live in the 21st century integrated into
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your community if you are offline. You can't go full Ted Kaczynski log cabin in the woods. It is
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impossible to do that, unless I suppose you were like some backcountry guide. But even then,
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you would probably use GPS and a satellite phone, and you'd probably take your bookings of your
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customers via web. It's impossible to live in 2020 as a modern person without connecting to the
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internet. And that is why we have to treat the internet like the public square and assure that
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it's not taken over. Like, you know, those corporate towns, like a corporate mining town where every house
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and every street was owned by the mining company. A lot of room for abuse there. That's exactly what
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Facebook, Google, YouTube, and the others alike. That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of
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all, let's hear a rebel world headquarters, that you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.