Rebel News Podcast - Parts of Australia and all of New Zealand are under martial law. If Trudeau tried that, would anyone stop him？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. What would happen if Justin Trudeau said vaccines are mandatory and if you

00:00:05.540 don't take him, you go to jail? I know that sounds crazy, right? Well, it sounded crazy in

00:00:11.180 New Zealand and Australia, but I think that's sort of the point they're at.

00:00:18.320 If that comes to Canada, is anyone going to even speak against it? I look into that question today.

00:00:24.260 I also talked to our friend Andrew Lawton about the documents that were released in Parliament

00:00:30.060 about the WE Charity. I hope you enjoy the show today. And let me encourage you to become a

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00:00:40.220 this podcast. Go to rebelnews.com and click subscribe. All right, here's today's show.

00:00:54.260 Tonight, parts of Australia and all of New Zealand are under martial law. If Trudeau tried that,

00:01:06.780 would anyone here stop him? It's August 20th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:12.840 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:16.320 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I have to say to the

00:01:22.160 government of a wire publisher is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:31.280 You know, I criticize left-wing civil liberties groups, but I sometimes feel a burst of optimism

00:01:35.800 and I join them and I even donate to them. Maybe because I hope they'll get better

00:01:40.020 or maybe because if I'm a member, maybe they'll listen to me more than if I weren't.

00:01:44.040 It hasn't always worked. I joined the Canadian Civil Liberties Association

00:01:47.760 and I think I make a monthly gift to them. Nothing huge, but enough that I actually got a

00:01:52.680 phone call by one of their donor development people. I don't know if I told you this happened

00:01:56.860 a few months ago. Let me tell you the story of this briefly. This was in the early days of the

00:02:01.320 pandemic. I'm guessing it was in April and the economy was absolutely locked down, just devastated

00:02:06.600 and all the fundraiser, the Canadian Civil Liberties fundraiser on the phone wanted to talk

00:02:12.300 about, though, was Black Lives Matter. Now, it was a white leftist fundraiser, I think.

00:02:19.280 So I listened patiently and politely. I'm a member, you know, and he just wouldn't want to talk about

00:02:23.560 anything else. You know, you would think that Civil Liberties, being the middle name of that

00:02:31.380 organization, would be what he wanted to talk about, but he wanted to talk about Black Lives Matter,

00:02:34.660 which is more of an American thing. Now, we had launched the fightthefines.com campaign. You know

00:02:40.660 what I'm talking about? We've taken 11 cases in the public interest, civil liberties, citizens who

00:02:45.440 have been bullied under inappropriate pandemic fines and rules. So we were out there fighting

00:02:49.060 the good fight, but bizarrely, the Canadian Civil Liberties Association wasn't, and I get the phone

00:02:54.600 call from them. Now, I think this should have been their shining moment. It really was, you know,

00:03:00.500 touching on martial law, like the October crisis, locked in your home, locked out of your business,

00:03:05.140 maybe like the G20 crisis in Toronto, and the civil liberties group was literally doing nothing

00:03:10.300 no lawsuits for freedom, no pushing back of the government. All they wanted to talk about on the

00:03:15.960 phone was Black Lives Matter, an American movement, an American concept, so weird and alien here in 0.98

00:03:21.700 Canada. In Ontario, the place that abolished the slave trade in 1793. So, being my famously polite

00:03:29.760 self, I told this guy on the phone that if he really wanted a donation from me, and if he really

00:03:35.360 insisted it be a black thing, all right, fine. I told him about this street that I know in Toronto, 0.99

00:03:41.020 it's called Eglinton Avenue West, and there's a two or three block strip that has got to have a dozen

00:03:47.640 barbershops on it. It is quite something. I love pointing that out to the kids when I drive by.

00:03:53.100 Have you ever heard of such a thing? Just a couple of blocks? Barber, barber, barber, barber, barber. I

00:03:57.080 should add one more important point. They're black barbershops. It's a Jamaican neighborhood, 0.78

00:04:01.580 other Caribbean folks too. So, there's lots of specialty barbershops, and they're always full.

00:04:06.540 Not just because their customers like to get haircuts and hairstyles, but because, at least as far as I

00:04:11.220 can tell, barbershops there are sort of like pubs in another community. They're a place where people

00:04:16.220 come by and say hi and chat and catch up on the latest news and gossip and sports and whatever,

00:04:22.380 and people might hang out there for half the day, almost like a little community hall or like a

00:04:27.220 legion hall or something. I mean, it's like the haircut is just an excuse to get together as a

00:04:31.920 community. It's quite a thing, this strip of a couple of blocks. I like driving by. I haven't got

00:04:37.120 a haircut there. I don't know if they would do hair like mine. Anyways, I love that a few blocks.

00:04:43.760 And of course, that was all shut down because of the pandemic. And I don't know if you remember,

00:04:49.440 but our David Menzies went out there and spoke to these heartbroken barbers whose businesses,

00:04:55.980 and indeed, much of their lives just got banned from the government. Did you ever see this clip?

00:05:01.160 Sir, why aren't the barbershops opened in this province in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, British

00:05:07.480 Columbia? They're open there now, so why not in Ontario? The people have to talk to Doug Ford

00:05:13.040 to do something for the barbers all over in Toronto. And we need help.

00:05:19.740 Everything just cut off. Everybody praying that one day we'll be up again.

00:05:25.640 We just don't want to sit down and have business and the business them closed, like barbershop.

00:05:31.820 Everybody wants a nice haircut to look fresh, to take out the ladies or go somewhere. 1.00

00:05:37.560 All the places them locked. They're over there, everywhere locked to the corner.

00:05:43.620 Oh, I feel your pain. And I would imagine the barbershops here, sir, it's more than just a

00:05:49.240 place to get your hair cut. It's a place to come in, socialize.

00:05:53.580 Socialize with each other, talk about things, how you feel about what's happened.

00:06:00.820 And what can we do to make things better?

00:06:04.220 Are you looking forward to the barbershops reopening?

00:06:06.300 Yeah. Yeah, every day.

00:06:08.760 We need hair cut. And barbers need to take care of their family, too. 1.00

00:06:13.640 They must be suffering.

00:06:15.280 They're suffering a lot, as they can't come out here to do no work. People are suffering.

00:06:20.660 So we want the Premier to do something for the barbers and the citizens of Canada.

00:06:26.240 Now, I knew that, and I like those guys. I like that they're hardworking. And I got to tell you,

00:06:33.040 being a barber is hard work. It's like being a restaurant owner or a waiter. You're on your

00:06:37.940 feet all day. It's not high-paying work. You're hoping for tips. You have to pay everybody else

00:06:43.380 first, the landlord taxes, whatever. It's tough. And these guys don't want to be on welfare. They

00:06:47.900 just want to be able to work. And they were banned by the government. So I said to this fundraiser from

00:06:52.500 the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, all he wanted to do was talk about black things. He's 0.79

00:06:56.060 a white guy. And, well, I got to tell you, I just got caught up in the moment. I was trying to think

00:07:00.120 positively. I got caught up in the moment. And I said to this fundraiser, I said, tell your boss,

00:07:06.000 Michael Bryant, he's a former liberal politician who now runs this place. I said, tell Michael Bryant

00:07:10.860 that if he wants to fight for black people, I'm with him. And I really said this. I just got carried

00:07:18.760 away. I said, I would personally donate $5,000 to the Canadian Civil Liberties Association to go

00:07:26.020 to court for these black barbers of Eglinton Avenue West. By the way, the Civil Liberties Office is on

00:07:32.420 Eglinton Avenue East, not far away. So, I mean, look, Michael Bryant and the CCLA, they don't even need

00:07:38.160 the money. They have in-house lawyers. They have pro bono lawyers. But if they're so obsessed with race,

00:07:42.820 which I think is weird because they're so white and so liberal, but fine. Okay, I'm in. Here's five large 0.76

00:07:49.660 to help fight for civil liberties of hardworking black Canadians. I can get into that.

00:07:54.200 So imagine you're this young telemarketer and you're expecting maybe I'll give you a hundred

00:07:59.320 bucks on the call and you get an offer of 5,000 bucks. Well, that will make your day. You're

00:08:05.100 probably on commission. Maybe you're going to get 500 bucks or a thousand bucks for that donation.

00:08:09.640 I don't know how they work there. I said, tell Michael Bryant I'm good for 5K if he helps one of

00:08:14.660 those black barbers. Black barbers' lives matter. How's that? Well, it won't surprise you to learn 1.00

00:08:20.520 that I never heard back from them. They still take my monthly donation, but they didn't get the

00:08:24.540 five large. I think they should have taken those cases for free as part of their mission, right?

00:08:31.180 Civil liberties. So if they're not going to take it for free, they're not going to take it for five

00:08:34.520 grand because they just don't want to take those cases. They don't want to fight this pandemic lockdown.

00:08:38.980 They still don't. Seriously, scroll down their website here. Kids in class, but

00:08:43.900 but the civil liberties group isn't suing to stop the weird unscientific rules that kids are now

00:08:48.460 subjected to with masks and shields and weird plastic cages. That photo is not even accurate.

00:08:54.400 Not a peep from them about that. Scroll down. Coronavirus. Okay, you've got my attention,

00:08:58.880 but read the fine print. We're monitoring the response to COVID-19 to ensure it's based on

00:09:03.720 science and it's not unnecessarily intrusive to our civil liberties. Okay, so you're monitoring the

00:09:08.740 situation. You're not actually going to do anything. You just got to monitor things.

00:09:12.360 If they get really, really bad, they'll let us know. And maybe someone else will do something.

00:09:18.820 Thanks, guys. Scroll down their website some more. There's something Islamic. I don't know what that

00:09:23.020 is. Maybe it's about the hijab. Obviously, they're for the hijab. And then scroll down something about

00:09:28.680 gay rights, which Canada has, by the way. I'm for rights of gay people, Muslim people, kids, blacks,

00:09:35.320 whatever, to have civil liberties. I don't care what color you are. How about civil liberties? 0.92

00:09:39.720 So that's your Canadian Civil Liberties Association. The CCLA is AWOL, absent without leave.

00:09:46.380 What's even the point? Now, I tell you all that because other than a few noble efforts by our

00:09:52.040 friend John Carpe and his team at the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, I just don't

00:09:56.880 see a lot of people fighting back against the encroachment of our civil liberties in Canada. Do you?

00:10:00.200 Where are all the opposition parties? Federally? Provincially? I think they're all too afraid to

00:10:06.540 oppose, even though that's their job. There's one or two aldermen here or there who have opposed

00:10:11.060 mandatory mask bylaws, but they seem to be few in number and obviously ineffective. Where's the

00:10:16.140 opposition anywhere? Left or right? In politics, in the media, or the legal profession, academics?

00:10:23.480 There are a handful. The Sick Kids Hospital, Toronto's excellent children's hospital, they published a

00:10:28.780 statement that kids should be able to go back to school, normalize things, saying that we're

00:10:32.060 overdoing it on kids. They were ripped to shreds by political shriekers who won't accept any deviation

00:10:37.860 from the official fear policy, panic-demic. There's that young doctor from Brampton, Ontario,

00:10:44.620 who normally would be a national hero. She's a woman of color, excellent, articulate physician,

00:10:50.720 politically involved for a long time. She should be a rock star on the CBC, but she says, hey,

00:10:55.480 maybe we're overdoing it with the fear. Maybe there's something to hydroxychloroquine and

00:10:59.640 azithromycin. It seems to be having a huge positive effect in other parts of the world, including

00:11:04.640 those she knows something about. She's talked about Kerala in India. Well, now she's literally

00:11:10.280 being investigated by the College of Physicians and Surgeons for having a non-standard opinion,

00:11:14.700 but she's a doctor. The social distancing fines that we went to bat for a couple months ago,

00:11:20.720 they're being replaced with mask fines now. And do you doubt that'll be replaced by vaccine

00:11:26.660 fines? I know I've told you this before. Trudeau's ordering 37 million syringes, the contract with a

00:11:33.340 Chinese vaccine company affiliated with the People's Liberation Army in China. But now we see the

00:11:38.480 template, not in some strange country, but in Australia and New Zealand, two countries quite

00:11:44.380 similar to our own, culturally, legally, in temperament. Look at this. Breaking. Victoria

00:11:50.160 police has issued 168 lockdown fines in the past 24 hours. 24 weren't wearing masks and 48 were

00:11:56.720 breaching curfews. Here are some examples. People thinking the virus is not that serious seems to be

00:12:02.780 a trend. All right. Here's a one-day compilation of what's going on in the Australian state of

00:12:07.420 Victoria, where the great city Melbourne is. It's a city like Toronto, same size and importance,

00:12:12.680 and it's under martial law. More strict than we saw in Canada in the FLQ crisis. Look at this. Are

00:12:18.240 you looking? Someone just driving. That's the crime. Someone just walking alone. That's the crime.

00:12:25.160 Did not have a valid reason for being out. Was more than 15 kilometers from home. Are any of those

00:12:32.940 crimes now? You bet they are. Is there any medical science behind that? No. As I told you yesterday,

00:12:39.700 more Australians under age 50 die from kangaroos than from this virus. This one's particularly 0.97

00:12:45.600 telling. A family was given a fine because they told police they didn't think the pandemic was

00:12:50.840 serious. I think that's pretty clearly the meaning here. Maybe if they had the right attitude,

00:12:56.220 they wouldn't have been fined. So you see, this really isn't about science. It's about obedience.

00:13:00.940 These people were skeptics, so they were fined. Here's New Zealand, led by the ghoulish and ghastly

00:13:06.500 Jacinda Ardern, the former head of the Socialist International Youth. She's got quarantines and 0.91

00:13:12.080 it's a life sentence. I think. What does this mean? What does this mean?

00:13:17.560 It's to, um, I've got a number of questions about people, um, refuse, you know, what do we do if

00:13:24.040 someone refuses to be tested? Well, they can't now. If someone refuses in our facilities to be tested,

00:13:31.440 they have to keep staying. So they won't be able to leave after 14 days. They have to stay on for

00:13:37.460 another 14 days. So it's a pretty good incentive. You either get your tests done and make sure you're

00:13:43.040 cleared or we will keep you in a facility longer. So I think people, most people will look at that

00:13:47.740 and say, I'll take the, I'll take the test. Oh really? So indefinite jail time. She would never

00:13:54.180 call for that for an actual criminal. And now the elections are being delayed over there. Seriously,

00:14:00.620 Jacinda Ardern will not give up power as constitutionally required. As you can see,

00:14:06.800 the virus stats in New Zealand went from five people in the hospital yesterday to six people

00:14:13.720 in the hospital today. I'm serious. That is it, people. Enough to shred the constitution. So back

00:14:19.280 to Canada, where we have a weak opposition that I fear is about to get even weaker.

00:14:25.720 Where most of our media is bought off by Trudeau's bailout. A civil liberties group that won't do

00:14:31.600 anything other than virtue signal about Black Lives Matter. Just, just nothing. If vaccines become 0.70

00:14:39.740 mandatory, untested, untrustworthy vaccines made in China to cure a disease that has a 99.9% recovery rate, 0.99

00:14:47.120 who would fight back against martial law in this country? What happens if Trudeau sets up jails

00:14:54.300 like Jacinda Ardern has done? If there are people who are non-compliant, there are definitely laws and

00:15:01.740 public health powers that can quarantine people in mandatory settings. It's potential. You could track

00:15:11.540 people who put bracelets on their arms, have police and other setups to ensure quarantine is undertaken.

00:15:19.720 Look, I'm not into conspiracy theories. I'm just asking a question. Is there a single force,

00:15:24.920 a counterweight in Canada that is stopping our country from descending further here? Or,

00:15:32.220 I don't know, apropos or nothing, are you the kind of person who thinks that if you had been around

00:15:36.060 in Germany in the 1930s, that you would have fought or even spoken against the currents and stood on

00:15:43.540 principle? I'm not comparing the two. I'm just saying, at what point do you start to speak out?

00:15:53.240 Stay with us for more.

00:15:54.280 Ladies and gentlemen, we now know why Justin Trudeau shut down those parliamentary investigations

00:16:13.180 yesterday. We have the documents right here. Let me start with an email from Michelle Kavokovic,

00:16:18.340 one of the top Finance Canada officials. She, to start out with, says the Canada Student Service

00:16:25.600 Grant is, quote, a bit of a shit show. And I'm quoting, excuse the language, but it's right there 0.99

00:16:32.560 in the bureaucratic document. That's not how bureaucrats normally communicate in their official

00:16:39.180 emails and memos back and forth. But apparently, this highly respected public servant felt it was

00:16:46.420 an appropriate characterization. That was April 20th, exactly when the Kielbergers were in the 0.95

00:16:52.000 process of negotiating to get this half-billion-dollar program set up. The same public servant writes

00:17:01.140 another email to one of her colleagues in which she says that we is connecting with my minister's

00:17:08.320 office. They are all besties. Besties. The finance minister's office is besties with the we organization

00:17:18.680 that they're attempting to give a half a billion dollars.

00:17:23.380 Just incredible. That's Pierre Polyev, the man who I wish was running for the leadership of the

00:17:29.800 Conservative Party. The only Conservative MP I can think of who has distinguished himself in the public

00:17:36.760 sphere in the last six months. Can you name me another Conservative MP or senator who has done

00:17:42.020 anything of note, fighting against this government and anything important? I cannot. Doing another

00:17:47.740 outstanding job. He was effective when there was a grilling of Justin Trudeau and Katie Telford,

00:17:55.640 a very brief grilling a few weeks ago. But as Pierre Polyev points out, all those investigations,

00:18:03.320 all those parliamentary committees, and remember, in a minority government, the opposition actually

00:18:07.700 has a majority of seats on these committees so they can hold hearings and call witnesses that the

00:18:12.620 Liberals can no longer block. Well, guess what? Justin Trudeau has prorogued Parliament and dissolved all

00:18:18.500 those committees. They cannot work. They do not have the power to subpoena or summon people.

00:18:24.300 Justin Trudeau, with the snap of his fingers,

00:18:27.060 destroys any investigations into him. Joining us now via Skype to talk about this is our friend

00:18:34.160 from True North. His name is Andrew Lawton, and here he is. Andrew, great to see you again.

00:18:39.940 Hey, likewise. Thanks for having me on.

00:18:41.440 It's my pleasure. I have in front of me a number of other emails, LinkedIn messages, little hellos

00:18:49.020 questions amongst bureaucrats, and between politicians and we. Boy, they sure were chummy. 0.60

00:18:56.240 You heard, you know, Pierre Polyev quoting one of them saying that the Kielburgers were besties

00:19:03.240 with Bill Morneau. They were all part of the same family, really. Political family, cultural family,

00:19:11.700 and they sure treated each other that way lavishly, didn't they?

00:19:15.280 Yeah, and there was another email directly from Craig Kielburger to Bill Morneau, not dear minister,

00:19:23.380 hello Minister Morneau, just hi Bill. And that is not something you do when you're talking to a

00:19:28.760 minister unless you have a really familial or personal or more than collegial relationship. So

00:19:35.020 I think the besties description is probably a pretty fair one here.

00:19:38.820 Yeah. I have in my hands a note sent from Craig Kielburger to Ben Chin, the former left-wing

00:19:46.960 broadcaster who's now a senior advisor to Trudeau. And Kielburger said, hello Ben, thank you for your

00:19:53.340 kindness in helping shape our latest program with the government. Warmly, Craig. And Chin responds,

00:20:00.120 great to hear from you, Craig. Let's get our young working. I mean, these, you know, Craig, Ben,

00:20:05.080 besties. I mean, these, these were friends. And of course, listen, Kielburger gave Bill Morneau,

00:20:11.020 who's a gazillionaire, gave him a $41,000 vacation for free. I can't even imagine what a $41,000

00:20:19.480 vacation is like, but it's enough to leave a memory on a finance minister who says, oh yeah,

00:20:25.300 how many hundreds of millions do you want steered your way? Yeah, we're besties.

00:20:28.740 This is the Libranos as we always feared it would be. 0.83

00:20:35.680 Yeah. And one of the things that really jumps out here is that it completely undercuts and

00:20:40.940 undermines what the liberal Trudeau Morneau narrative has been, which is that, oh, you know,

00:20:46.600 the public service was the only one involved in this and the government only just stepped in at the

00:20:50.780 very 11th hour. And, and Justin Trudeau actually tried to slow things down. You know, he didn't

00:20:56.000 just accept the recommendation. He actually said, I need to see more of this. And when you look

00:21:00.420 through these documents, and I admit, I haven't gone through all 5,000 pages just yet, but when

00:21:05.260 you look through the documents, Ezra, the one thing that becomes apparent is that there was never a

00:21:10.400 point in which this program and we and government ministers, Trudeau ministers were not all involved

00:21:17.400 in the discussion. Yeah. You know, one of the things that comes out, I mean, Craig Kielburger and his

00:21:23.460 brother, they're very much creatures of Toronto and Ontario and that circle, but they're really

00:21:29.380 nowhere in French Quebec. They're not bilingual. The organization is not bilingual. It's never been

00:21:34.760 a thing. I think that's important for two reasons. First of all, it's a reason why the Bloc Quebecois

00:21:39.860 is happy to stick the knives in. When it was SNC Lavalin, well, that was a Quebec company,

00:21:46.420 pride of Quebec. Yeah, Quebec jobs are in a different class in Canadian politics.

00:21:49.860 Well, yeah. And, you know, it really is a flagship Quebec company, SNC Lavalin. I do not excuse or

00:21:55.880 tolerate their corruption, but it's the leading engineering firm that's really Quebec built. I 0.77

00:22:01.900 know why the Bloc would be defensive of them, even though they're corrupt. We, they don't even,

00:22:06.760 you know, we is the word yes. And for we, we, may we, monsieur, they don't know what this we

00:22:11.580 charity is all about in Quebec. It's just a bunch of Anglo Toronto, I'll scratch your back if you 1.00

00:22:18.060 scratch mine. So that's why the Bloc is sticking the daggers in. But there's one more thing here. 0.93

00:22:22.620 It goes to the point, why would the government pretend that an Anglo-only celebrity charity for

00:22:31.660 basically political insiders, why would anyone think they could implement this national program

00:22:37.900 in both official languages in all 10 provinces and three territories? And that's an issue that

00:22:44.620 comes out in some of these internal memos. People in government saying, hey, how come

00:22:49.060 everything's only in English? How come the website's only in English? Have you forgotten

00:22:53.580 that there's a world outside of Toronto? And I think they did forget.

00:22:58.860 Yes. And in one of them, there, there's actually an email where someone in the civil service at some

00:23:03.960 point is trying to say that they're not actually concerned or convinced that we does have the

00:23:08.620 capacity to deal with this. So this idea that it was a sure thing that we could be handed the

00:23:13.080 keys to this national program and the millions and millions and hundreds of millions of dollars

00:23:17.160 that went along with it, which has always been what Trudeau has said about this, isn't actually

00:23:21.720 aligning with what people in the government were actually saying about it as this was working its

00:23:26.800 way through the channels. However, improperly, that process might have been manipulated.

00:23:31.200 Yeah, there's so many things in these emails. And it is sort of spectacular to hear Pierre-Paul

00:23:36.460 you have, quote, bureaucrats calling in a shit show. You know, the Canada Student Service grant, 0.99

00:23:42.880 bit of a shit show. And the way it's positioned right now is not exactly how we will go forward. 0.92

00:23:48.740 It's just like this was a mess. And you know, one more thing these memos show is that the

00:23:55.980 politicians, especially Bartish Chagher, they were lying about their communications with we. I mean,

00:24:02.840 I think we is worried, the Kielburgers should be worried of a criminal prosecution. I understand 1.00

00:24:08.760 that the slumbering lifeguard, the RCMP that's been dozing for the last five years is maybe waking

00:24:16.620 up and they might poke around here. If I were a Kielburger, I would be very scared, not just by this 1.00

00:24:24.160 whole scheme to illegally lobby dozens of times to steer nearly a billion dollars their way. Huge

00:24:32.040 commissions and overheads, but also the way they were handling so-called charitable funds in ways

00:24:39.500 that do not look like charity to me. Very interesting. These documents don't lie, but the

00:24:46.500 politicians who claim they didn't know, oh, I didn't talk to them, oh, I wasn't lobbied by them, 0.69

00:24:51.780 this proves they're liars.

00:24:53.080 Yes, that's, I mean, to go back to where I started off in this segment, Ezra, the one thing that's the

00:24:59.600 most, I think, smoking gun-ish of this all is that all of the liberal government officials' positions

00:25:05.320 have really just been completely shredded through this, that they weren't involved and that the

00:25:10.440 public service was just working on this and knew that only we could do it. And then at the last minute,

00:25:14.540 handed it to Trudeau and said, hey, we need your sign off. That didn't happen. The government was

00:25:18.540 involved in this. And as that one email you read earlier on indicated between Mr. Kielberger and

00:25:24.520 Mr. Chin, the liberals were actually helping this along. They were actually ramming this through the

00:25:30.920 process, not just being passengers for the civil service's little dalliance.

00:25:36.580 Yeah. Well, I got a question for you, and it's a heartbreaking question that I ask far too often.

00:25:41.620 And it's, do Canadians care? I mean, the first step is, do they understand the nature of these

00:25:50.380 scandals? Maybe it's too technical, too obscure. Maybe it sounds like bureaucratic gobbledygook.

00:25:59.120 And if they do understand, or even if they don't, do they care? Do they care enough to

00:26:04.340 withhold their love from Canada's national boyfriend, Justin Trudeau?

00:26:09.440 It's a tough question. I think when we saw the SNC-Lavalin scandal break a year and a half ago,

00:26:17.020 a lot of conservatives were saying, oh, this is going to be the end of Justin Trudeau.

00:26:20.960 And, you know, I was among the more pessimistic types saying, no, no, no, we think he's going to

00:26:25.600 skate here. I do anyway. And he did because people get over it. Now, the WE scandal is a lot more clear

00:26:31.800 cut than SNC-Lavalin. You're not talking about things that people haven't heard of. So I think it's

00:26:36.980 easily digestible in a way that past scandals haven't been. But at the same time, we also can

00:26:42.800 look at what the Justin Trudeau government is trying to do now to get away from this, halting

00:26:47.600 the committee's investigations, which means that the conservatives are going to be spinning their

00:26:51.600 wheels, looking over 5,000 pages of documents over the next month in the really the summer break

00:26:57.440 is kind of just happening now. And then when Justin Trudeau comes back and puts forward a new budget and

00:27:03.020 a new throne speech, it's going to be full of shiny things. It's going to be full of giveaways. It's

00:27:07.160 going to be full of all the things that government is doing to buy your vote. And I do think that will

00:27:12.680 distract, especially if the mainstream media decides that it wants to focus more on the American election

00:27:17.820 than on Canadian politics, which we know is a possibility and certainly one even in the last

00:27:23.140 couple of weeks we've seen. So I don't say that to just be the complete pessimist, but there needs

00:27:28.120 to be a level of caution here, which is that all of what's happened in the last few days is serving

00:27:33.480 and is quite effectively setting up a distraction from talking about this, which is what the liberals

00:27:38.860 are desperately trying to avoid. Yeah. You know, I think back to the other scandals, and I think

00:27:44.500 the reason this is powerful is it dents one of Trudeau's brands. It shows he's a bit of a phony. For 0.74

00:27:50.520 example, he claimed to be a feminist. Then we heard about his groping that reporter Rose Knight,

00:27:55.880 and he said, oh, she experienced it differently. And that sort of took the bloom off the rose. He's a

00:28:00.720 male feminist. Then with minorities, he sacked Jody Wilson-Raybould. He sacked Selena Cesar Chavannes.

00:28:08.380 He did the blackface. And all of a sudden, he's not the darling to minorities and to indigenous people.

00:28:15.440 Shows he was a bit of a phony on that. Well, youth, the youthful, these loving rock concert style

00:28:22.300 wee gatherings. Yeah, he sort of liked them, but he was lining his pockets and those of his brother

00:28:28.740 and his mother and his wife. I think what this does is one of his favorite things to do, go and give a

00:28:35.520 blathery, Hallmark card style, shallow, feel-good speech to a bunch of kids. I think if he does that

00:28:43.140 anymore, it's going to look just like a money grab or a conflict of interest. So one at a time,

00:28:47.980 his sizzle, he's for the youth, he's for minorities, he's for aboriginal people. He, you know, he's a

00:28:54.720 feminist. I think every one of those now looks like a fake or a con, and you're left with just this 1.00

00:29:01.380 cool guy who's not that cool, this young guy who's not that young anymore, this hip guy who's not that

00:29:06.940 hip, this woke guy who's not that woke. All the things that made him so shiny are scuffed now. I don't

00:29:15.340 know if that's enough to kill him politically, but that's enough to make a lot of enthusiasm drain

00:29:21.180 away from all those four groups I mentioned. I don't disagree with the premises, but the problem

00:29:27.460 is, is that he won election after a lot of those things that happened, and after a lot of those

00:29:32.360 things that have been chipped away. So it certainly exacerbates what has become a pretty significant

00:29:37.220 trend, and I think the whole not-at-advertised narrative is one that the Conservatives have tried

00:29:41.980 to pin on him. We are looking at a media double standard here. I mean, Ezra, like you know better

00:29:47.480 than anyone, Bev Oda famously gets ousted on a $16 glass of orange juice. Well, we're talking about,

00:29:53.640 you know, I think about, you know, how many millions of glasses of orange juice. I don't know. I can't do

00:29:58.280 the math, but we're talking about millions of glasses of orange juice here, and the Liberals are still

00:30:03.400 getting a pass in many respects in the media, and I think the real test will be how much does the

00:30:09.360 press focus on what's in these documents? How much is the press going to fight for unredacted

00:30:14.520 versions of them? How much is the media going to cover? And not just forget, when the parliamentary

00:30:19.440 process resumes, when Trudeau's back, how many are they going to put to him and say, well, what about

00:30:25.200 this, what about this, and what about this? Yeah, I think you're right, and I think the CBC's already

00:30:29.940 in full launder and rinse mode for him, focusing on other shiny objects. If it's for love, it's how

00:30:37.100 Chrystia Freeland is so amazing. If it's for hate, it's for how the governor general is so terrible.

00:30:42.420 I think the CBC is in full spin mode, which is to be expected. Andrew Lawton, great to catch up with

00:30:47.320 you. Thanks for your insights. As always, thank you. All right, there you have it, our friend Andrew

00:30:51.220 Lawton. He is with True North. Our good friends over there, you can see everything they have to offer

00:30:56.100 at tnc.news. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:31:11.900 Hey, welcome back to my interview with a former Facebook censor. Landrieu writes,

00:31:16.480 Silicon Valley and the MSM have completely undermined democracy, free speech and free thought.

00:31:20.520 Yeah, you know, what I keep finding amazing is that this story is out there. I'm not the only

00:31:27.900 media who's talking to this guy. American media are too, but I haven't seen this reported anywhere

00:31:33.340 in Canada, and he's not keeping it a secret, is he? MS writes, according to Facebook, Google, YouTube,

00:31:39.540 and all these left-wing platforms, everything is hate speech if they disagree with it. Yeah, oh,

00:31:44.180 yeah, you know what? Again, we talked about some examples. You can't criticize Greta Thunberg. You

00:31:51.340 can criticize Nicholas Sandman, that kid in the MAGA hat who was shouted at at the Lincoln Memorial

00:31:58.280 last year. There's such a double standard. You can call a right-winger a Nazi. That's fine. You can't

00:32:04.480 call a left-wing feminist a feminazi. That's hate speech. Yeah. Susan writes, that's why I deleted 1.00

00:32:10.860 Facebook. Yeah, well, you can't delete technology. You cannot live in the 21st century integrated into

00:32:18.920 your community if you are offline. You can't go full Ted Kaczynski log cabin in the woods. It is

00:32:25.260 impossible to do that, unless I suppose you were like some backcountry guide. But even then,

00:32:31.800 you would probably use GPS and a satellite phone, and you'd probably take your bookings of your

00:32:37.140 customers via web. It's impossible to live in 2020 as a modern person without connecting to the

00:32:44.540 internet. And that is why we have to treat the internet like the public square and assure that

00:32:49.820 it's not taken over. Like, you know, those corporate towns, like a corporate mining town where every house

00:32:54.940 and every street was owned by the mining company. A lot of room for abuse there. That's exactly what

00:32:59.280 Facebook, Google, YouTube, and the others alike. That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of

00:33:04.920 all, let's hear a rebel world headquarters, that you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - August 21, 2020

Parts of Australia and all of New Zealand are under martial law. If Trudeau tried that, would anyone stop him？

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