Rebel News Podcast - Policeman Derek Chauvin was convicted of murder for the death of George Floyd. What does that mean？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I try to talk about the case of George Floyd, the black man who was killed

00:00:23.080 by a white cop named Derek Chobin. Was race a factor? Were drugs a factor? Was it a murder,

00:00:29.720 a jury says so? I'll do my best to walk through that political and racial minefield. I'll give

00:00:35.320 you some of my thoughts on the whole thing in the state of policing these days. I guess my main

00:00:39.120 question is, who would want to be a cop? Before I get to that, let me invite you to become a

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00:01:02.300 money, you know. All right, here's today's podcast. Tonight, policeman Derek Chobin was

00:01:08.620 convicted of murder for the death of George Floyd. What does that mean? It's April 21st,

00:01:13.900 and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:17.600 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:21.000 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:25.300 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my

00:01:29.920 bloody right to do so.

00:01:36.480 I'm going to show you some tough video to look at, so turn away if you don't want to see it.

00:01:42.520 It's a takedown of George Floyd by Derek Chobin and other police in Minneapolis.

00:01:47.040 Floyd was a serial criminal. He resisted arrest. He was on drugs. Chobin was a cop trying to 0.98

00:01:53.840 arrest him. But did Floyd deserve to die? But did the cop use excessive force? Is Floyd

00:02:02.060 a global hero? Is Chobin a racist? And really, who on earth would want to be a cop these days? 0.70

00:02:09.280 Take Baltimore, a largely black city where a young man with a knife called Freddie Gray was killed in

00:02:17.720 police custody. Freddie Gray was black, so racism, right? Here are the six cops who were charged in

00:02:27.320 relation to his death. Three of them are black. Racism is confusing these days, so it could be.

00:02:33.400 What I do know is that the riots just kept going after Freddie Gray, and so police, black and white,

00:02:42.640 they got the message. Here's a tweet six years later, just the other day, after defund the police

00:02:49.960 and anti-police riots. This is from the police union in Baltimore. Word is police commissioner

00:02:57.200 Harrison will need to close two police districts. As of today, patrol has fallen below 700 sworn

00:03:04.760 officers. 500 cops short, city in crisis, Baltimore police. Here's another tweet by the same folks.

00:03:12.680 81 officers have fled Baltimore police this year. We're only in April. Outpacing last year,

00:03:21.460 pay, working conditions, and the anti-policing climate are the primary reasons. Baltimore Police

00:03:27.060 Department leadership must begin to treat our officers as the professionals they are. 500 cops

00:03:32.900 short, city in crisis. So basically, they're missing half their cops. Would he want that job? If you were

00:03:43.220 white? If you were black? If you were anyone? I don't know much about Freddie Gray, or even Baltimore,

00:03:52.820 even though I took a tour through its poorest parts. I think they really do need police there.

00:03:58.520 The black people do. The poor people do. They need them. Rich, white neighborhoods, 0.99

00:04:02.720 they usually have police or private security. I didn't see a lot of white people in those run-down

00:04:09.100 neighborhoods. Victims of crime there. I don't know what happened to Freddie Gray. I think I know

00:04:15.540 what happened to George Floyd, the cop who kneeled on his neck and back, was charged with murder.

00:04:20.140 Was it murder or self-defense? Was it murder or reacting to a big man resisting arrest? Well,

00:04:26.440 there was a trial about that, a jury trial. Would you have wanted to be on that jury? I wouldn't.

00:04:32.580 There was an expert who gave opinion in the court. He had a dead pig's head left at his house. Yeah,

00:04:40.520 would you want to say not guilty if you thought the cop was not guilty? Or would you be afraid of

00:04:47.260 violence against you and your family, or even riots in general? Here's a senior Democrat named Maxine

00:04:54.600 Waters. We're looking for a guilty verdict. We're looking for a guilty verdict, and we're looking

00:05:02.420 to see if all of the talk that took place and has been taking place after they saw what happened

00:05:09.380 to George Floyd. If nothing does not happen, then we know that we've got to not only stay in the street,

00:05:17.280 but we've got to fight for justice. But I am very hopeful, and I hope that we're going to get a verdict

00:05:26.340 that says guilty, guilty, guilty. And if we don't, we cannot go away. That's pretty clear. She said that

00:05:33.440 before the trial verdict. Convict him or there's going to be riots. Even President Joe Biden thought he would

00:05:40.620 weigh in on the trial during the trial. Is that how you do it? They're a good family, and

00:05:47.260 they're calling for peace and tranquility, no matter what that verdict is. I'm praying the

00:05:54.240 verdict is the right verdict, which is, I think it's overwhelming in my view. Powerful politicians

00:06:00.060 telling judges and juries what they must do in contentious cases. Is that how it works in America?

00:06:08.880 Chauvin was indeed convicted. But some people just want to watch things burn no matter what.

00:06:14.280 I don't know if this truck driver here was black or white. I know he's a truck driver,

00:06:18.820 so he's probably not that rich. I know he didn't do anything wrong to anyone. Take a look.

00:06:23.960 Cheauvinsequen.

00:06:29.620 Don't do this.

00:06:38.940 Get her. 0.58

00:06:42.940 Yeah.

00:06:45.040 Yeah.

00:06:46.700 WAS CHAVIN GILTI? WELL, THE JURY SAYS SO.

00:06:47.420 Was Chauvin guilty? Well, the jury says so.

00:06:49.840 Some experts said no, he died from drugs, he died of other things,

00:06:53.620 but you saw what happens to experts who are politically inconvenient.

00:06:58.760 So there were no massive riots.

00:07:01.540 You know there would have been had Chauvin been acquitted,

00:07:03.660 but still, did you want to be a cop in Minneapolis?

00:07:07.080 Would you want to be a cop anywhere, really,

00:07:08.780 in this age of ubiquitous cell phones filming your every move?

00:07:13.160 Danielle Outlaw is the unusual name for a cop. 1.00

00:07:18.000 She's a black woman who was the chief of police in Portland. 0.99

00:07:21.580 First black woman to hold that job, you'd think she'd be politically bulletproof, 1.00

00:07:25.440 especially in Portland, one of the whitest cities in America.

00:07:28.520 No, you're wrong.

00:07:30.100 A black woman, sure, but the police chief part, well, that sunk her. 0.93

00:07:35.060 That's the part that undid her.

00:07:36.560 Portland is Antifa Central, as you may know.

00:07:39.080 It's one of the worst places in the world to be a cop.

00:07:41.460 They literally cut her pay and cut her budget to punish the police, defund police,

00:07:46.580 so she quit.

00:07:48.140 Imagine that.

00:07:49.940 But wouldn't you quit, too?

00:07:52.340 But all these anti-cop politicians,

00:07:54.740 they want special protection for their own lives and families.

00:07:58.020 Maxine Waters actually demanded special police protection for herself. 0.99

00:08:01.580 Of course she got it.

00:08:03.320 Rich people always do.

00:08:04.480 Powerful people always do.

00:08:05.720 They're not rich and powerful in the poor parts of these Democrat cities.

00:08:10.800 The parts of Baltimore and Minneapolis that riot and burn things to the ground.

00:08:16.780 How's burning a mom-and-pop store, corner store to the ground?

00:08:20.140 How's that sticking into the man?

00:08:22.240 Isn't that just burning down your own neighborhood?

00:08:24.160 It's Democrat cities almost always.

00:08:28.420 You can't not notice that.

00:08:30.740 Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis.

00:08:33.180 The more woke, the worse.

00:08:36.100 What a contrast to Florida, a Republican state.

00:08:38.520 Look at this press conference the other day about the difference between rioting and protesting.

00:08:42.880 I think it's really remarkable if you look at the breadth of this particular piece of legislation.

00:08:49.460 It is the strongest anti-rioting, pro-law enforcement piece of legislation in the country.

00:08:55.520 And there's just nothing even close.

00:08:57.500 The bill does a number of things.

00:09:00.040 One, it tackles head-on this idea that we've seen last summer and then we still see today

00:09:06.860 that there should be a movement to defund law enforcement.

00:09:11.040 Now, obviously, the state of Florida, we're not going to do that under my leadership.

00:09:15.400 But if a local government were to do that, that would be catastrophic and have terrible

00:09:20.740 consequences for their citizens.

00:09:23.340 And so this bill actually prevents against local governments defunding law enforcement.

00:09:28.780 We'll be able to stop it at the state level.

00:09:31.460 And if you look at some of these places that have done this, they've already seen crime go

00:09:36.820 up, even just diverting some of the funding to this.

00:09:40.280 And so it's an insane theory.

00:09:42.940 It's not going to be allowed to ever carry the day in the state of Florida.

00:09:47.460 Yeah, we need more policing like that, but more politicians to back up police like that. 1.00

00:09:52.660 Kneeling on a guy's neck is bad.

00:09:56.200 We've had a little bit of police violence against our own reporters.

00:09:59.420 Nothing as extreme has happened in these U.S. cases.

00:10:03.560 Our people don't fight back.

00:10:05.180 The police only go so far.

00:10:07.000 It's just bullying, really.

00:10:08.100 We're suing the police in Toronto because we're alive.

00:10:11.320 You can't sue if you're dead.

00:10:13.080 Oh, no!

00:10:14.800 Oh, no!

00:10:16.220 Oh, no!

00:10:16.980 I know!

00:10:19.320 I know!

00:10:20.060 I can't!

00:10:20.560 We're going to sue the police in Montreal too.

00:10:44.840 Are you pushing me?

00:10:45.840 Why are you pushing me?

00:10:46.840 I'm not pushing you.

00:10:47.840 Go sir.

00:10:50.840 Go sir, please.

00:10:51.840 Don't touch me.

00:10:52.840 Don't touch your feet.

00:10:54.840 Take your distance.

00:10:55.840 Hey, hey, hey, hey.

00:10:58.840 Change, change, change, change.

00:11:01.840 They will taser you.

00:11:03.840 They have already arrested one of our reporters

00:11:06.840 after physically assaulting him.

00:11:09.840 This is the police brutality.

00:11:12.840 We have come here to observe.

00:11:14.840 And here they come.

00:11:16.840 Crooked cops.

00:11:17.840 Corrupt cops.

00:11:18.840 You're cursing me with a bicycle.

00:11:20.840 What's your fucking bike name?

00:11:21.840 Are you kidding me?

00:11:22.840 What's your fucking bike name?

00:11:23.840 Hey, hey, hey.

00:11:24.840 What's your fucking bike?

00:11:26.840 Bullshit.

00:11:27.840 But the media really is a culprit in these American cases,

00:11:31.840 especially, look at this one, just even after the Chauvin case.

00:11:35.840 One young black girl, a teenager, attacking another young black girl with a knife.

00:11:42.840 A cop shot the attacker.

00:11:44.840 Is that racist?

00:11:46.840 If the one black girl had murdered the other black girl and the cop did nothing, 0.57

00:11:51.840 would that have been racist?

00:11:54.840 Or was that even about race at all?

00:11:56.840 The cops stopped a would-be killer.

00:11:58.840 Isn't that the right thing to do?

00:12:00.840 It would have been better if no one had died.

00:12:02.840 But it doesn't always work that way in real life, does it?

00:12:05.840 The media is insane, though.

00:12:07.840 Look at how they covered this.

00:12:08.840 A knife fight as if the victim was an equal aggressor.

00:12:11.840 She was an unarmed victim, the one who would have been stabbed.

00:12:16.840 Noting the race of the attacker, but not the race of the saved victim,

00:12:20.840 who was also black.

00:12:21.840 Insane, insane, insane.

00:12:22.840 The media want a race riot.

00:12:25.840 Look, I didn't follow the trial of George Floyd.

00:12:27.840 I'm really glad I didn't.

00:12:28.840 I don't want to know more than I know.

00:12:30.840 I don't want an opinion on whether or not he was murdered.

00:12:34.840 The whole thing is awful.

00:12:35.840 It's not our experience in Canada in the main.

00:12:39.840 But I can still see that the worst people in the world here

00:12:42.840 are the politicians and the media.

00:12:43.840 Here's Nancy Pelosi thanking him for being killed.

00:12:47.840 So again, thank you, George Floyd, for sacrificing your life for justice.

00:12:54.840 She's using him as a political talking point, as a political weapon. 0.52

00:12:57.840 Al Sharpton, well, he's a special kind of bloodhound.

00:13:00.840 He can smell money and death miles away.

00:13:04.840 Look at this.

00:13:05.840 Yeah.

00:13:06.840 In the past year, I have become more keenly aware of police brutality.

00:13:16.840 Luckily, none of my observations have involved murder.

00:13:20.840 I mean, this boy here, he was pushed, but he'll live.

00:13:23.840 That was abusive bullying, but nothing more than that.

00:13:41.840 But what is the mentality behind it?

00:13:44.840 Incredibly, CTV said that boy fell, and they didn't even call him a boy.

00:13:50.840 They called him a man.

00:13:51.840 He's 12.

00:13:52.840 He's 12.

00:13:53.840 CTV is outraged about police brutality in the United States.

00:13:56.840 I wonder if their opinion about that 12-year-old being pushed by the cop in Gravenhurst, Ontario,

00:14:01.840 I wonder if their opinion would have been a little fiercer if the kid were black.

00:14:06.840 Here's Calgary's police telling you how much they care about George Floyd.

00:14:11.840 You know they do.

00:14:13.840 Thanks for virtue signaling from 1,000 miles away, lads.

00:14:16.840 But do you have anything to say about your own police who swore at, attacked, assaulted, tasered a young man just for skating outdoors on an ice rink?

00:14:27.840 Anything to say about that, guys?

00:14:29.840 Do you have anything to say about sending your cops into a church during Easter weekend?

00:14:34.840 Anything to say about that?

00:14:36.840 Or just things to say in a different country?

00:14:40.840 Policing is broken.

00:14:42.840 Police are too often being used as political errand boys by politicians, especially during the lockdown.

00:14:48.840 And they're demonized for fighting criminals when that's what we hire them to do, we need them to do.

00:14:53.840 I know they sometimes go too far, but in this day and age, would you even take the chance as a cop?

00:14:59.840 And would you get a fair trial if you made a mistake?

00:15:02.840 Would you just stay out of certain parts of town?

00:15:05.840 Just turn a blind eye to certain criminals.

00:15:07.840 Just look away.

00:15:08.840 Don't get involved.

00:15:10.840 Wokeness is killing police in two ways. 0.97

00:15:13.840 Too bad it's poor people and minorities that'll hurt the most because of it. 0.79

00:15:18.840 Stay with us for more.

00:15:23.840 We're also having local volunteer groups.

00:15:37.840 We're delivering postcards to people, it's called Facts vs. Fears, to help inform people of the facts.

00:15:46.840 And not just the fears that we hear every day from our media and from our politicians.

00:15:52.840 Well, that's some video footage from a recent anti-lockdown gathering in Ontario.

00:15:58.200 These gatherings have been picking up steam.

00:16:00.400 About 200 people there in West Zwick's Park in Belleville.

00:16:04.780 We've seen anti-lockdown rallies across the country,

00:16:08.020 especially as the lockdown politicians have become more and more brutal in their enforcement.

00:16:14.220 I think that Premier Doug Ford of Ontario jumped the shark

00:16:18.320 when he ordered all police in the province to stop people on site

00:16:23.600 without any probable cause to demand where they're going and why.

00:16:27.960 Over 40 police departments in Ontario said they would not participate

00:16:31.580 in such an unconstitutional and illegal search.

00:16:35.460 However, while I appreciate those virtue signaling sentiments,

00:16:39.560 it appears that the police are indeed engaging in constitutional violations.

00:16:44.900 And I point you to this story in the Quinty News,

00:16:47.780 where Chief Mike Callahan of the Belleville Police has boasted that he is investigating

00:16:56.480 an elected member of the provincial parliament, Randy Hillier.

00:17:01.100 Normally, you don't even announce an investigation until it's concluded and charges are laid.

00:17:06.220 But this police chief is getting into the spirit of a police state,

00:17:10.600 and he's announcing through the media who he's hunting.

00:17:13.900 And it just so happens to be he's hunting the elected member of provincial parliament.

00:17:19.080 Who joins us now?

00:17:21.200 Randy Hillier is with us via Skype.

00:17:23.460 Randy.

00:17:24.500 Great to be with you, Ezra.

00:17:25.780 It's nice to see you.

00:17:27.100 Thank you for being here.

00:17:28.940 We use the word police state from time to time, and I don't want to overuse it.

00:17:33.060 I don't want to be overly dramatic because police states are terrifying things,

00:17:39.660 and we don't want to casually throw those words around.

00:17:42.020 But when a police chief announces he's investigating an elected official

00:17:47.980 for engaging in constitutionally protected political protest,

00:17:52.800 I think we might be meeting the definition of a police state.

00:17:56.540 Listen, Ezra, we need to call a spade a spade.

00:18:00.680 We have not had honest discussions in this country for a year now.

00:18:05.920 We have our borders are sealed up.

00:18:08.500 We have armed police officers at our borders with Manitoba and Quebec.

00:18:13.620 We have enforcement officials at our borders with the American states.

00:18:20.540 We, to use the term lockdown, is disingenuous.

00:18:27.680 We are in a martial law situation in Ontario.

00:18:33.400 I know people don't want to recognize and don't want to realize and speak about this,

00:18:39.620 but let's be truthful here.

00:18:40.900 We have police chiefs out boasting that they're coming after elected representatives

00:18:49.920 who disagree with the political course and political policies of this province,

00:18:57.380 and we have our borders sealed up.

00:19:00.680 I do appreciate that quite a number of police services across the province

00:19:05.960 finally, after 13 months, gave some pushback to Ford last Saturday,

00:19:14.720 but it is very little, and we have seen, although there are public pronouncements

00:19:20.000 that they're not going to engage in those activities,

00:19:23.780 in practice we are seeing that a great many police services

00:19:27.440 are still engaged in police state activities.

00:19:31.660 Yeah, I find it very frustrating, you know, it's been 80 years since the Second World War,

00:19:41.480 and we always criticized German police, German soldiers for, quote,

00:19:49.320 just following orders as they did terrible things.

00:19:52.000 And again, I don't want to lightly make a comparison between what's going on here

00:19:57.080 and, God forbid, the Holocaust, but we always said just following orders is not an excuse. 0.71

00:20:03.600 If you're doing something deeply unethical, deeply immoral,

00:20:07.460 the people who wear uniforms, who take an oath to uphold the law and the Constitution,

00:20:12.480 there is a point where they have to say, I'm just not going to do this.

00:20:16.420 And you're right, we see armed guards at borders.

00:20:19.960 Even British Columbia is having internal highways, different regions.

00:20:27.780 I mean, that's clearly a violation of our constitutional right to mobility,

00:20:32.820 Section 6 of the Charter, your right to freedom of association,

00:20:36.580 freedom of assembly, freedom of expression, freedom of speech.

00:20:39.080 That's Section 2 of our Constitution.

00:20:41.580 These things are just being thrown out the window,

00:20:43.440 and I don't think it's enough for police just to shrug and say,

00:20:47.740 well, I'm just following orders.

00:20:49.720 Oh, it absolutely isn't, and neither is it for the great many of their population.

00:20:56.020 You know, you bring up that analogy of the Second World War.

00:20:59.140 It wasn't just the people in uniform who were conforming to these immoral

00:21:06.420 and outrageous obedience of orders.

00:21:11.200 It was also the population, and we're seeing a great many people here in Canada

00:21:16.920 embracing a totalitarian perspective, a totalitarian war.

00:21:26.000 And I use that term purposely.

00:21:29.980 This has turned out to be a war against what Canada is

00:21:38.140 and what Canada has always stood for.

00:21:40.580 It's a war against freedom.

00:21:43.120 It's a war against the individual.

00:21:45.640 It's a war against personal responsibility.

00:21:48.780 And, you know, of course, there are no bombs or bullets being thrown,

00:21:52.960 but the coercion, the intimidation,

00:21:58.360 and the relentless barrage of fear that governments

00:22:03.020 and public health bureaucrats are bombarding people with, you know,

00:22:09.500 and the complete, not one elected government in our country

00:22:16.020 is upholding the rule of law and our constitution.

00:22:21.160 And we are, in essence, in a lawless state at the moment where an utterance by an elected premier or prime minister

00:22:34.280 or an utterance by a police chief becomes the de facto rule or a public health bureau.

00:22:42.720 Well, that's the thing.

00:22:43.560 It's not just police chiefs and politicians.

00:22:46.840 You have bureaucrats with an MD, like a public health officer.

00:22:52.700 I hate that they're called top doctors.

00:22:55.680 Most of them haven't had a patient in years, let alone decades.

00:22:59.400 They're not the top doctors in terms of they're the best.

00:23:03.080 They have the best patient care.

00:23:05.260 They have the best outcomes.

00:23:07.120 They're, you know, they get the best ratings from the best recovery rate.

00:23:10.860 They're not the top doctor.

00:23:12.380 They're politicians with an MD.

00:23:13.700 And what's so incredible to me is quite often when a politician wants to liberalize the lockdown,

00:23:21.720 you see these public health tyrants who were nobodies 14 months ago say,

00:23:27.220 I will issue the directive even if the politicians don't.

00:23:30.920 I will shut down these stores, these schools.

00:23:35.100 I mean, we saw that incredible moment in Ontario where the education minister said,

00:23:38.920 yeah, schools are open.

00:23:39.920 And then moments later, the health tyrant said, no, we're shutting it down.

00:23:46.520 Well, we saw that.

00:23:47.740 Go ahead.

00:23:48.980 We saw that with Doug Ford himself, the premier of the province, where he said,

00:23:52.660 if I disagree, if anybody disagrees with a public health bureaucrat and let's that's what they are.

00:23:58.960 They are not doctors.

00:24:00.220 They are not medical professionals.

00:24:02.300 These guys are have never held a stethoscope.

00:24:06.940 They have never seen a patient.

00:24:08.560 They're bureaucrats.

00:24:10.520 And and Doug Ford said, if I disagree with them or anybody disagree with them,

00:24:15.880 it would be akin to putting a rope around your neck and throwing yourself off the bridge.

00:24:21.760 That that's what we have in this country.

00:24:26.300 Recognize it.

00:24:27.120 Believe it or not.

00:24:27.820 That's our politicians have become serfs and and subjects of.

00:24:38.280 Unaccountable, unaccountable, unelected bureaucrats who are destroying our lovely country and destroying our way of life and destroying all our foundational principles that made Canada so,

00:24:54.780 so wonderful, so wonderful that they've just they're destroying our faith, our freedom, our responsibility and and they have to be reined in.

00:25:04.960 It's incredible.

00:25:07.880 Look, I just was jotting down a list here.

00:25:11.940 You were elected as a conservative, but you were booted from the caucus for being too independent minded.

00:25:17.780 Roman Baber also elected as a conservative.

00:25:20.900 When he dared to criticize the lockdowns, he was given the boot.

00:25:24.800 Belinda Karahelios elected as a conservative, given the boot.

00:25:29.020 Christina Midas, another conservative MPP.

00:25:31.880 She registered her opposition to these lockdowns.

00:25:35.240 As far as I know, she hasn't been kicked out yet unless something's happened in the last little while.

00:25:40.180 So right there, there's four people elected as conservatives who say, I just can't go along with this anymore.

00:25:47.300 To me, there's got to be more.

00:25:50.780 Why aren't they speaking out?

00:25:53.300 I mean, there's got to be people who hear the pain of businesses shut down, the pain of delayed or postponed cancer care, depression, suicide.

00:26:04.500 There's got to be more.

00:26:06.500 And yet they're silent.

00:26:08.180 Why? Why are they so quiet?

00:26:11.180 Well, there's two parts.

00:26:13.080 You know, I think the best way to describe this, what is happening, it's an older term, but it's a term that I think most adequately describes.

00:26:25.900 And it's the phrase is social murder.

00:26:29.100 We are engaged in social murder by our political elites.

00:26:34.840 What do you mean by that?

00:26:35.620 Well, that our elites, our public health bureaucrats, our politicians are enacting policies that they know will lead to the premature and unnatural death of a great many people.

00:26:52.040 We're seeing this with suicides, with overdoses.

00:26:54.680 We're seeing it with delayed medical attention and cancer screenings.

00:27:01.420 I've heard the phrase statistical murder.

00:27:03.880 I heard that from John Stossel.

00:27:05.260 He's saying the decision will cause all these deaths.

00:27:08.340 So, obviously, there's not that criminal culpability, but we're making choices that we know will have a disastrous effect on lives and health.

00:27:17.540 I think I think I think and what frustrates me is every day we get the case count of people who many of whom don't even have symptoms.

00:27:25.820 What we don't get every day, the countervailing statistics of how many people died from suicide, from cancer that should have and could have been caught, but wasn't.

00:27:35.920 It's a kind of propaganda to only hear about the coronavirus when 90 percent of deaths in Ontario are from other things.

00:27:44.860 More more more akin to 99 percent of deaths or from things.

00:27:50.940 But but what I would say back to the that question as well is we have seen we're not permitted to have an honest discussion in this country.

00:28:02.640 When Roman Baber or myself or Belinda speak out and counter the narrative, there is a great there is a consequence.

00:28:11.920 And for those for all of us, there's been the removal from caucus.

00:28:17.640 So we're demanding conformity.

00:28:22.120 That's what is at play here.

00:28:24.040 We are rejecting a foundational premise of Western liberal democracy.

00:28:29.460 That open, honest, healthy debate will lead us to good outcomes.

00:28:34.640 And just like the march towards Nazism, there was conformity. 0.64

00:28:42.560 Everybody must conform or you will face consequences.

00:28:48.040 And I know there's a great many people in the Ford administration who understand that they are and their policies are tantamount to social murder.

00:29:01.820 And and and they're fearful of speaking out and and I can and they're fearful of public health and they're fearful of the social media backlash.

00:29:11.540 There's and social stigma.

00:29:13.940 And and we have a bunch of cowards running our province.

00:29:18.420 We have a bunch of cowards running our country.

00:29:22.000 We don't have statesmen.

00:29:23.760 We have lemmings.

00:29:25.860 Let me ask you this.

00:29:28.260 We started off by pointing out that the police chief in Belleville, Mike Callahan, has publicly announced that he's investigating you.

00:29:36.160 And again, I say that's quite odd because normally an investigation is not announced.

00:29:41.760 It's only charges that are announced.

00:29:43.340 And in fact, we often don't make those announces to the person has formally appeared in court.

00:29:48.600 So this is highly unusual.

00:29:50.740 It's a kind of intimidation, I would think.

00:29:53.000 But let's say he does issue some charges against you.

00:29:57.620 And I would imagine they would just be tickets with a very high dollar amount because what you have done is obviously not a crime.

00:30:04.340 What what do you intend to do?

00:30:06.160 Would you file a charter challenge to those tickets?

00:30:09.380 I mean, I in some ways, I think they'd be foolish to ticket you because you, unlike most people, would relish such a fight and you would probably give better than you got.

00:30:20.720 So if I think they're coming for you, I mean, well, listen, I want them to come for me.

00:30:26.760 I want them.

00:30:28.160 And I've said to Chief Caton, come on, let's see if you've got the backbone to come in and charge me.

00:30:35.360 I want to have my day in court with you, Chief Callahan.

00:30:39.760 What if they were handcuffed?

00:30:41.160 Have you been handcuffed?

00:30:42.540 I know police have ticketed you.

00:30:44.520 Have you been handcuffed during this lockdown?

00:30:46.860 No, I haven't.

00:30:48.260 That would be a shocking symbol of unelected, unaccountable health tyrants handcuffing an opposition politician who opposes the lockdown. 0.95

00:30:56.560 I don't want that to happen to you, just like I don't want you to be ticketed.

00:31:00.660 But frankly, if it did happen to you, it might be a moment that crystallizes what's going on.

00:31:06.140 I don't want that to happen, but it would not surprise me at all if it did happen.

00:31:10.280 Hey, let me ask you this.

00:31:11.320 I see behind you a number of interesting things on the wall.

00:31:15.220 One of them is a lawn sign or a poster for nomorelockdowns.ca.

00:31:22.260 I know that's an organization that you started a few months back.

00:31:25.500 I think our viewers might have encountered it here or there.

00:31:28.100 Can you give me a bit of an update on nomorelockdowns.ca?

00:31:33.600 What is it?

00:31:34.600 What do you guys do?

00:31:36.920 Just tell us what that means.

00:31:39.440 Well, we've mobilized a great many people.

00:31:42.900 We recognized a long time ago that the greatest problem here is people self-censoring.

00:31:50.800 There's a great many people who oppose these lockdowns, but they don't have a way to express their opposition.

00:31:57.240 So we started the group nomorelockdowns.ca that we're distributing lawn signs, like you see on my wall, throughout Ontario.

00:32:06.140 We have distributed about 25,000 so far.

00:32:09.280 We also have local volunteer groups throughout the province, and we're delivering postcards, our facts versus fears postcards, to help inform people of the facts, not just the barrage of fear that they hear every day.

00:32:25.320 We're also engaged in many rallies.

00:32:28.360 This weekend, Ezra, I'll be – I have an event in Ottawa on Friday.

00:32:33.660 I'll be in Peterborough.

00:32:35.440 Maxine Bernier is joining me in Peterborough at the No More Lockdowns rally there.

00:32:41.160 We're – Derek Sloan is joining with me in Stratford and in Elmer on Sunday.

00:32:48.760 We also have another rally in Chatham-Leamington on Monday.

00:32:54.320 Derek is also going to be up at the Barry rally on Saturday.

00:32:58.420 So we're doing everything to show people that – and explain to people that we are marching and embracing a totalitarian state.

00:33:12.900 And if we're not willing to stand up and speak out and defend and assert our freedoms, we will not have any.

00:33:22.580 Let me ask you a question.

00:33:24.160 I mean, I'm fairly new to Ontario.

00:33:26.840 I've been out here about a decade.

00:33:28.320 So I guess I'm an Ontarian now, even though in many ways I still feel like an Albertan.

00:33:32.700 I know that a couple months ago, more than a dozen sitting Alberta MLAs – that's the Alberta version of MPPs in Ontario – signed a No More Lockdowns pledge.

00:33:44.300 And it actually included some people who had some positions within the government.

00:33:48.640 I think there was a deputy speaker in there, for example.

00:33:51.740 Have you had – so you just listed a bunch of Ontario activities.

00:33:55.200 Do you have anything you can tell us about the Alberta front?

00:33:59.800 Because there has been some real division out there, arresting a pastor, throwing him in jail for 35 days, police expropriating a church and turning it into an armed, you know, garrison.

00:34:14.220 There's just some insane things in Alberta, which I always thought used to be the freest province.

00:34:20.000 Do you have any news from out there, or are you just more focused on Ontario for now?

00:34:23.260 Well, I'm focused on Ontario, even though I speak with many of the Conservative caucus members, and also quite a number of municipal representatives in Alberta as well.

00:34:36.120 And indeed, across the country, we have about 60 members in our End the Lockdown caucus.

00:34:41.760 But here's my view, Ezra.

00:34:45.300 Ontario is key.

00:34:47.000 Ontario is a trigger to this totalitarian state that we seem in a headlong rush to embrace.

00:34:55.640 And whatever Ontario does, the rest of the province, we're the largest population centre.

00:35:03.360 We have the largest economy.

00:35:04.980 And it doesn't matter if PEI or New Brunswick or Manitoba gets out of this lockdown.

00:35:14.600 They are sort of beholden and must be on the coattails of the largest province.

00:35:20.300 And that's why I'm focusing all my attention, singularly, to get the people of Ontario to understand the gravity and the danger that we're on at the moment.

00:35:33.620 And I believe if we can turn Ontario, then we can turn the rest of the country.

00:35:40.400 Well, I hope you're right.

00:35:41.940 Randy Hilliard, MPP for Atlantic, Frontenac, Lennox and Addington, one of the nicest places in the country.

00:35:48.220 I'm so glad to have you on the show.

00:35:49.520 I wish you good luck.

00:35:50.460 And if that Chief Mike Callahan does, in fact, come for you, make sure to let us know.

00:35:55.320 We'll cover that story.

00:35:56.560 And boy, I think he'll be messing with the wrong guy if he does.

00:36:00.340 Good luck, my friend.

00:36:00.940 It will be a pleasure to see Mr. Chief Callahan come and bring me a ticket.

00:36:07.680 And I'll make sure that we get some video footage if it happens.

00:36:11.700 Yeah, I know you will.

00:36:12.820 All right.

00:36:13.120 You take care, my friend.

00:36:14.100 Thanks for fighting for freedom.

00:36:16.100 My pleasure.

00:36:16.700 All right.

00:36:17.020 There you have it, Randy Hilliard.

00:36:18.140 Stay with us.

00:36:18.680 More ahead.

00:36:19.040 Welcome back.

00:36:32.300 Wendy Lynn says, if I was caught on video shoving my own child to the ground like that OPP officer did, that 12-year-old boy,

00:36:39.860 social services would be at my door collecting my child.

00:36:42.880 However, we do have to be mindful of coming to conclusions when viewing a short segment of video.

00:36:47.520 You know, you're right on both cases.

00:36:50.780 However, I just can't even imagine a lad on a scooter being pushed to the ground.

00:36:56.820 Like, it sure didn't look like the kid was attacking from what other kids said.

00:37:02.560 And we sent our own Lincoln Jay to that same skateboard park and he talked to a witness.

00:37:06.100 It's just that the kid didn't have his mask and didn't have his ID.

00:37:09.960 What 12-year-old kid has ID?

00:37:12.560 Doris Reid says, this was not a budget.

00:37:15.960 That would contain a means of paying for promises.

00:37:18.660 It's a blatant vote-buying election platform.

00:37:21.660 You're exactly right.

00:37:22.800 And alas, who's there to stop it in the media or in politics?

00:37:26.780 Rick LaLiberde says, he's still there, Trudeau, after all the corruption.

00:37:33.380 Yeah, and you know, after a certain point, even though Trudeau only wins with 30-something

00:37:41.620 percent of the vote, after a certain point, you have to say, well, you know what?

00:37:46.140 As awful and corrupt and leftist and unethical and senseless and irrational that he is, maybe

00:37:55.900 Canadians want him.

00:37:59.380 That's the show for today.

00:38:00.540 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:38:04.120 good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:38:16.140 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - April 22, 2021

Policeman Derek Chauvin was convicted of murder for the death of George Floyd. What does that mean？

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