Rebel News Podcast - PROOF： Canada is actually trying to destroy the NAFTA negotiations

00:00:00.000 Tonight, it's obvious. Canada is actually trying to destroy the NAFTA negotiations.

00:00:05.440 I'll show you my evidence. It's September 20th, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:15.460 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:19.280 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:23.000 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:25.960 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:36.560 I've got some new videotape clips for you today.

00:00:39.780 They're silly clips, childish even.

00:00:42.500 And childish clips on the internet are fun if it's children doing it,

00:00:46.660 but it's a lot less fun when it's grown-ups like our foreign minister, Christia Freeland,

00:00:52.320 back in Washington, D.C., making a fool of herself in the NAFTA negotiations.

00:00:56.900 I'll show you the new vids in a moment, but let me remind you of the trouble we're in.

00:01:02.140 It's been almost a month since the United States and Mexico announced their bilateral trade deal.

00:01:07.120 Bilateral just means two sides, the U.S. and Mexico, as in no more three amigos. 0.98

00:01:12.980 Canada was invited to be part of the negotiations,

00:01:15.440 and we were for a while, but Trudeau just wouldn't shut up about weird stuff like feminism in NAFTA

00:01:24.200 and global warming in NAFTA.

00:01:27.100 And even if you don't think that's weird stuff,

00:01:30.380 you've got to acknowledge it's weird stuff to put into a trade deal.

00:01:33.400 Trade deals are about, you know, trade tariffs and taxes and things like that.

00:01:38.080 Why are you banging on about gender this and that?

00:01:41.340 So Mexico and the U.S. just started meeting on their own, 55 times, in fact.

00:01:47.260 That's pretty intimate.

00:01:49.740 I mean, you probably proposed marriage after fewer dates than that in your own personal life, I'm getting.

00:01:56.800 55 dates?

00:01:59.020 So they got hitched.

00:02:00.980 Mexico and the U.S. got the trade deal.

00:02:03.000 And this is the letter that Donald Trump submitted to Congress

00:02:05.820 to let them know for their approval.

00:02:07.740 And right in that letter, Trump said Canada can join if it wants,

00:02:12.320 but pretty much Trump's fine if we don't.

00:02:15.880 As Manny Montenegrino told us, Trump actually wins if NAFTA fails

00:02:20.380 because he can repatriate our auto industry

00:02:23.060 back down to those rust belt states that he needs to win re-election in 2020.

00:02:28.240 Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana, places like that.

00:02:30.500 Anyone who thinks Trump is bluffing

00:02:32.200 seems to have forgotten that no one in Ontario can vote for Trump,

00:02:35.520 but people in those U.S. states can't move the factory there.

00:02:39.300 I mean, why wouldn't he please them by doing that?

00:02:42.840 Canada will start negotiations shortly.

00:02:45.680 I'll be calling the prime minister very soon,

00:02:50.440 and we'll start negotiation.

00:02:52.280 And if they'd like to negotiate fairly, we'll do that.

00:02:55.940 You know, they have tariffs of almost 300% on some of our dairy products,

00:03:00.540 so we can't have that.

00:03:01.580 We're not going to stand for that.

00:03:02.600 I think with Canada, frankly, the easiest thing we can do

00:03:06.400 is to tariff their cars coming in.

00:03:08.800 It's a tremendous amount of money, and it's a very simple negotiation.

00:03:12.240 It could end in one day, and we've taken a lot of money the following day.

00:03:16.700 But I think we'll give them a chance to probably have a separate deal.

00:03:20.440 We could have a separate deal, or we could put it into this deal.

00:03:22.820 So that's the background, and it's been rough going.

00:03:28.540 Trudeau arguing in public with Trump.

00:03:30.720 And that's the thing about Trump.

00:03:31.800 He's all about massive retaliation, isn't he?

00:03:34.760 He's not into tit-for-tat.

00:03:36.700 He's into 10-to-1 tit-for-tat.

00:03:38.980 So he's been bashing and warning Canada all the time on Twitter,

00:03:42.340 not in a mean or personal way, but in a tough way.

00:03:44.820 He actually has only criticized Trudeau by name twice than I can recall.

00:03:49.320 And he's never even mentioned Chrystia Freeland.

00:03:52.140 He's too busy, by the way, with bigger things.

00:03:55.060 It's a particularly Canadian inferiority complex that causes us to obsess. 1.00

00:04:00.020 We obsess over Americans who mention us.

00:04:02.740 But instead of getting serious, we've gotten a bit silly on our side.

00:04:07.820 In the last few weeks, as you know, Chrystia Freeland

00:04:09.780 attended that anti-Trump rally in Toronto that labeled Trump a tyrant.

00:04:16.260 That's what they called him.

00:04:17.320 According to media reports today,

00:04:20.520 that insanely poor decision has not gone unnoticed in the White House.

00:04:28.200 Why would you do that?

00:04:30.780 And Freeland just keeps getting weird.

00:04:32.360 She's weird.

00:04:33.920 She appeared in Washington last night wearing a weird homemade T-shirt.

00:04:37.500 On the front it said, Mama isn't chopped liver, 1.00

00:04:40.040 as in she's not going to be pushed around.

00:04:41.880 I think that's the meaning of I'm not chopped liver.

00:04:43.420 And in the back says, keep calm and negotiate NAFTA.

00:04:48.760 So I think that means that she won't be pushed around.

00:04:54.020 Or to phrase it another way, she won't make compromises.

00:04:57.720 Either way, why the weirdness?

00:05:00.340 Why the T-shirts with messages on it?

00:05:03.540 Is it even conceivable that her U.S. negotiation counterpart,

00:05:09.380 Robert Lighthizer in the middle there,

00:05:12.300 would wear a goofy T-shirt with messages about NAFTA negotiations?

00:05:16.540 Or the impeccable Jared Kushner, there's Mike Pence there also.

00:05:20.360 I'm not saying that Chrystia Freeland shouldn't be able to wear a T-shirt 0.99

00:05:23.700 on a night flight to Washington, D.C.

00:05:25.900 I'm not picking on her fashion sense, though.

00:05:28.400 I really think she should take advice on her fashion.

00:05:31.080 But wearing a shirt, shouting weird, cryptic messages

00:05:36.340 about a NAFTA negotiation,

00:05:38.480 when you're going to the NAFTA negotiation,

00:05:42.180 isn't that a little touched?

00:05:45.240 Like her emoji negotiation weirdness.

00:05:47.760 Remember that?

00:05:48.160 The European Trade Commissioner, Cecilia Malmstrom,

00:05:51.240 and I call each other sisters in trade.

00:05:54.800 We sign our emails, hugs.

00:05:57.460 Really? You actually do that?

00:05:58.760 Yes, we do.

00:05:59.380 We sometimes send each other smiley faces

00:06:01.620 in particularly difficult moments.

00:06:04.160 I'm embarrassed by that.

00:06:05.960 I'm not even kidding about this goofiness.

00:06:08.040 Freeland left the negotiations in Washington

00:06:10.080 for something far more important.

00:06:12.920 A feminist meeting of feminist ministers

00:06:16.020 from around the feminist world.

00:06:17.800 So basically leaving it for a feminist photo op. 1.00

00:06:20.440 Feminism power! 1.00

00:06:22.000 I mean, if you're a feminist, have at her. 1.00

00:06:23.620 But is that really a good reason to leave

00:06:25.560 the negotiations on NAFTA

00:06:27.600 when we're down to the final days?

00:06:30.820 It's not just Trump that's moving on

00:06:33.000 without Canada.

00:06:34.680 U.S. congressional leaders

00:06:35.940 say they're running out of patience, too.

00:06:38.600 They want a deal.

00:06:39.540 They want the Mexican deal.

00:06:40.820 And they're starting to feel like Canada

00:06:42.420 is playing games with them,

00:06:43.740 which, of course, Canada is.

00:06:46.040 Now, the other day I showed you this beautiful moment

00:06:50.060 of how a CBC reporter named Reshmi Nair

00:06:52.460 was rendered temporarily speechless

00:06:54.640 when an American professor dared to say

00:06:56.620 that maybe Christia Freeland isn't as beloved

00:06:59.940 in America as she is in Canada.

00:07:02.220 And they sent down Christia Freeland

00:07:04.980 to negotiate,

00:07:06.360 and she went out of her way 1.00

00:07:07.480 to convey her contempt for Trump.

00:07:10.040 And that just struck me as

00:07:11.300 about the stupidest thing you could do.

00:07:13.800 Unless, of course,

00:07:14.640 you would be just as happy

00:07:16.020 to see the whole thing fail.

00:07:19.360 Convey her...

00:07:20.760 Sorry, can you give that to me again?

00:07:22.280 What example do you have

00:07:23.360 of the minister expressing her views

00:07:25.220 on Donald Trump?

00:07:25.940 You don't love her?

00:07:29.900 She was like a deer in the headlights.

00:07:31.160 She couldn't believe it.

00:07:32.140 She's a fangirl,

00:07:33.140 just like all those liberals were

00:07:34.620 at the Trump-as-a-tyrant rally.

00:07:36.420 But I think the worst things get for Freeland

00:07:38.300 and for our NAFTA negotiators,

00:07:40.060 the more our palace guard media

00:07:41.800 delude themselves.

00:07:43.440 It's like Baghdad Bob 0.87

00:07:44.640 when Iraq was about to fall to the Americans.

00:07:46.700 Oh, we've got the great devil on the run.

00:07:49.180 So here's the new video

00:07:50.440 I wanted to show you today.

00:07:51.500 This is a video of Freeland landing

00:07:53.580 in Washington, D.C.

00:07:55.020 Now, see, before she got on the plane,

00:07:57.480 someone snapped this picture of Freeland.

00:08:00.500 That's her. 0.88

00:08:00.920 You can see her white shirt.

00:08:02.640 And Gerald Butts,

00:08:03.440 that's him with the beard.

00:08:04.800 They were in the airport in Ottawa.

00:08:07.580 You can see Freeland in her weird shirt 1.00

00:08:09.960 drinking a nice glass of red wine.

00:08:13.320 So that photo got the media super excited

00:08:15.840 about the shirt.

00:08:18.180 So the media,

00:08:19.120 the CBC's camped out in Washington.

00:08:21.480 There's like half a dozen of them.

00:08:22.780 They actually,

00:08:23.380 and other media too,

00:08:24.420 they actually drove to the airport

00:08:26.440 in Washington

00:08:27.180 to meet Chrystia Freeland

00:08:29.940 when she landed at the airport.

00:08:33.040 And watch.

00:08:33.700 Now, watch this movie.

00:08:35.040 It's like the journalists are,

00:08:37.780 you know,

00:08:38.160 teenage girls at an Ariana Grande concert.

00:08:41.500 Take a look.

00:08:41.920 I hear you have a great shirt.

00:08:44.540 Can you see what the back of it is?

00:08:46.580 You can certainly see the back of my shirt.

00:08:48.380 She'll be bailing tomorrow.

00:08:49.760 Okay, that's great.

00:08:51.060 What's the meaning behind your shirt,

00:08:52.280 Minister Fran?

00:08:53.100 The shirt is a Christmas gift

00:08:54.780 my children gave to me.

00:08:56.340 Oh.

00:08:56.900 So they had it made for me, yeah.

00:08:59.580 You think it'll be good luck for tomorrow?

00:09:01.620 I hope so.

00:09:03.220 What are you hoping to come out of tomorrow?

00:09:04.580 Well, we'll be talking to reporters tomorrow.

00:09:07.540 Okay.

00:09:07.940 Oh, we'll see you there.

00:09:11.300 That's not a reporter, is it?

00:09:12.620 That's a fangirl.

00:09:14.100 That's...

00:09:15.400 That actually wasn't the state broadcaster.

00:09:17.360 That was CTV.

00:09:18.380 Let me read to you just a tiny sampling

00:09:20.600 of the Canadian media reaction.

00:09:23.080 Here's Josh Wingrove.

00:09:24.440 He used to be with the Globe and Mail,

00:09:25.780 and now he works for Bloomberg in Ottawa.

00:09:27.280 He tweeted,

00:09:28.460 Classic Freeland.

00:09:30.240 The front of this shirt says,

00:09:32.380 Mama don't equal chopped liver. 1.00

00:09:33.960 Her kids had it made for her for Christmas,

00:09:35.660 and she wore it, leaving the G7 too.

00:09:37.740 Oh, that's so classic.

00:09:40.700 She's the best.

00:09:43.020 Here's Rosa Huang of CTV, who says,

00:09:45.760 Our camera was there.

00:09:46.780 We were there, guys.

00:09:47.660 I saw Ariana Grande.

00:09:48.900 Our camera was there

00:09:50.000 when Foreign Affairs Minister

00:09:50.780 Christy Freeland arrived in Washington tonight.

00:09:52.380 We're wearing the following message.

00:09:54.040 Mama don't equal chopped liver. 1.00

00:09:56.020 Keep calm and negotiate.

00:09:56.880 Hey, NAFTA, I was there.

00:09:58.540 Hey, everybody, I was,

00:09:59.480 I touched her.

00:10:00.380 I touched her.

00:10:02.380 She said the shirt was a gift from her children.

00:10:05.100 Here's a CTV,

00:10:06.500 which did a whole new story on it,

00:10:08.760 but look at how they described it,

00:10:09.920 and ain't it the truth?

00:10:10.840 Foreign Affairs Minister Christy Freeland

00:10:12.380 is in Washington for more NAFTA negotiations

00:10:14.280 and generated buzz.

00:10:16.780 Hey, guys, it was really buzzy.

00:10:18.360 With a T-shirt that references negotiations.

00:10:21.080 Yeah, I don't, I don't think that's,

00:10:23.200 I don't think a couple of fangirl reporters 0.99

00:10:24.840 making fools of themselves

00:10:26.780 I don't think you can call that

00:10:28.320 making buzz in Washington.

00:10:30.120 I think that's just some Canadians 1.00

00:10:32.220 just bored out of their minds

00:10:34.160 and maybe they're drinking red wine

00:10:35.680 and I don't, I don't know.

00:10:37.980 But is that really the kind of buzz

00:10:39.800 you want your foreign minister to generate?

00:10:41.220 I don't believe it was buzzy.

00:10:43.520 But is that what you want?

00:10:44.340 She has a weird shirt

00:10:45.660 about ongoing negotiations.

00:10:49.580 Negotiations she pops into

00:10:50.880 and pops out of

00:10:51.880 in between anti-Trump rallies

00:10:53.620 and feminist rallies. 1.00

00:10:55.120 But look at the CBC.

00:10:56.460 So I was CTV and I showed you

00:10:57.680 Bloomberg and whatnot,

00:10:59.020 but look at the CBC

00:10:59.660 just in full fangirl mode.

00:11:03.880 Here's a tweet from CBC Power and Politics.

00:11:08.160 Christy Freeland got some encouragement

00:11:09.560 from bike riding Canadians in Washington today.

00:11:12.260 CBC Katie explains.

00:11:14.320 Take a look.

00:11:15.460 Something very funny actually just happened,

00:11:17.540 Vashie.

00:11:18.040 A couple of Canadians on rental bikes

00:11:20.220 just drove, walked by with their bikes

00:11:22.820 and said, go Freeland, go.

00:11:25.580 So they knew exactly what's going on here

00:11:27.980 at the Red Bricks in front of the U.S.

00:11:29.520 Trade Representative's office.

00:11:31.280 And they walked and I said,

00:11:33.120 obviously you're clearly Canadian.

00:11:34.800 They go, yay.

00:11:35.960 And then kept on going.

00:11:39.040 Hey, you lonely hearts out there.

00:11:41.680 You got to find yourself someone

00:11:43.240 who looks at you

00:11:44.200 the way a CBC reporter

00:11:46.540 looks at Christy Freeland.

00:11:48.060 You find someone in love like that,

00:11:49.860 you hold on and you never let go, okay?

00:11:54.120 That was the CBC's Kate Simpson

00:11:55.440 who just stands around down there

00:11:57.640 and watched it.

00:11:58.140 And sometimes she badgers the Americans. 0.66

00:11:59.960 Let me show you

00:12:00.720 the American of interest,

00:12:02.820 the American of the day here,

00:12:04.240 Ambassador Lighthizer,

00:12:06.060 the U.S. trade rep,

00:12:07.780 professional trade negotiator.

00:12:09.340 That is all he does.

00:12:11.420 Now, I'm sorry,

00:12:12.100 he's not wearing a ratty old T-shirt.

00:12:13.540 He's not wearing anything goofy

00:12:16.080 or cool or buzzy.

00:12:17.600 He's wearing a nondescript

00:12:19.520 blue business suit.

00:12:21.420 And listen to him rant about Trudeau.

00:12:24.680 And I'm kidding.

00:12:25.840 He doesn't rant.

00:12:26.780 This is how a professional

00:12:28.340 trade negotiator acts

00:12:30.400 when accosted on the street.

00:12:32.300 Is it going to...

00:12:33.060 Can you tell us whether

00:12:33.560 this week is a deadline, sir?

00:12:36.900 Is Canada being cooperative?

00:12:46.360 Are you close to a deal, sir?

00:12:47.920 Yes.

00:12:48.000 Are the Canadians 0.82

00:12:59.380 being cooperative, Ambassador?

00:13:02.560 Did the auto tariffs come off

00:13:04.340 if there's an after deal?

00:13:06.340 Now, he wasn't being rude.

00:13:08.080 In case you think he's being rude,

00:13:10.200 don't take that as rudeness.

00:13:12.000 Take that as professionalism

00:13:13.480 because any word he said at all

00:13:16.100 could be interpreted

00:13:18.160 as substantive

00:13:20.100 in the negotiation.

00:13:22.640 When it's all over,

00:13:23.940 I'm sure he'll have a lot to say.

00:13:25.840 But not while he's in

00:13:27.820 a tense negotiation.

00:13:30.100 He's not the kind of guy

00:13:31.120 who blabs 0.65

00:13:31.840 or puts messages

00:13:33.580 on his shirt.

00:13:35.180 He's a professional.

00:13:37.260 Just a couple more points.

00:13:38.440 The head

00:13:38.980 of a major Canadian union

00:13:40.680 called Unifor

00:13:41.740 is actually part

00:13:42.720 of the Canadian advisory board

00:13:44.040 on these NAFTA negotiations.

00:13:45.900 Okay, fine.

00:13:47.480 You'd think he'd be working hard

00:13:48.680 to protect the auto sector

00:13:49.840 because Unifor

00:13:50.580 represents auto workers.

00:13:51.960 But I haven't seen that yet.

00:13:53.400 I have seen a lot of bluster

00:13:54.800 and shoutiness.

00:13:57.100 I don't know.

00:13:57.660 Maybe that works

00:13:58.180 in union negotiations.

00:13:59.200 I don't know.

00:14:00.540 But I'm not sure

00:14:01.260 if it works on

00:14:01.940 foreign trade deals

00:14:03.120 with that Robert Lighthizer

00:14:04.760 we just saw.

00:14:06.840 Anyways,

00:14:07.280 the head of the Unifor

00:14:09.080 union is in Washington too.

00:14:11.920 And he recorded this rant

00:14:13.480 from the roof

00:14:15.020 of the Canadian embassy.

00:14:16.820 Hi, it's Jerry Dias.

00:14:18.100 I'm at the Canadian embassy.

00:14:19.740 I just left a meeting

00:14:20.780 with representatives

00:14:21.820 from the prime minister's office.

00:14:23.840 Ambassador McNaughton,

00:14:25.460 Minister Chrystia Freeland.

00:14:26.760 We had a good discussion

00:14:27.660 about how things unfolded

00:14:29.020 last night and this morning.

00:14:30.680 The facts are

00:14:31.260 the federal conservatives

00:14:32.160 are not helping at all.

00:14:33.800 When Andrew Scheer

00:14:34.640 makes statements

00:14:35.320 that we should be

00:14:36.400 capitulating basically.

00:14:37.880 This should have been done

00:14:38.500 a long time ago.

00:14:39.500 He really doesn't know

00:14:40.340 what he's talking about.

00:14:41.640 So what does Andrew Scheer

00:14:43.160 suggest we should capitulate on?

00:14:45.260 Should we walk away

00:14:46.220 from supply management?

00:14:47.880 Should we throw the dairy farmers 0.81

00:14:49.340 in Ontario and Quebec

00:14:50.260 under the bus?

00:14:51.640 Should we be saying,

00:14:52.600 listen, we don't care

00:14:53.360 about our cultural exemption?

00:14:55.260 We should be saying that

00:14:56.380 to Quebec that we don't care 0.94

00:14:57.600 about your culture.

00:14:58.680 I think that's ridiculous.

00:15:00.180 Should we be allowing

00:15:01.260 Fox TV to buy the CBC?

00:15:03.740 Should we be getting rid

00:15:04.640 of Canadian content?

00:15:06.360 And then, of course,

00:15:07.120 there's the whole issue.

00:15:08.120 Does Andrew Scheer believe

00:15:09.420 that all disputes in NAFTA

00:15:11.060 should be handled

00:15:12.000 in U.S. courts?

00:15:13.340 So, Andrew,

00:15:14.100 what exactly do you want us

00:15:15.420 to capitulate on here?

00:15:16.960 You should be ashamed

00:15:17.800 of yourself.

00:15:18.860 So that's Jerry Diaz.

00:15:21.240 Now, maybe he's right.

00:15:24.160 I don't know.

00:15:25.600 But if he is,

00:15:26.440 why is he giving

00:15:26.960 his comments in public?

00:15:28.220 Why is he negotiating

00:15:29.120 in public?

00:15:30.020 Has Robert Lighthizer

00:15:31.100 done that?

00:15:33.040 Why the fuss?

00:15:34.200 Why the noise?

00:15:34.760 Why the bluster?

00:15:35.500 But he's bashing Andrew Scheer

00:15:36.680 for wanting a deal

00:15:37.840 and implying that

00:15:39.140 any concession

00:15:39.880 to get a deal

00:15:40.860 is un-Canadian.

00:15:41.740 So is that the official

00:15:42.900 Canadian negotiating position?

00:15:45.380 If so,

00:15:45.920 why is it a labor union boss

00:15:47.680 saying the position

00:15:48.620 in public?

00:15:49.680 Why is someone

00:15:50.680 on the official team

00:15:51.760 mouthing off?

00:15:52.680 Is this part

00:15:53.320 of the negotiation?

00:15:54.100 Does he speak

00:15:54.600 for the negotiators?

00:15:56.340 Now, I don't know.

00:15:57.220 Either the Canadians 0.98

00:15:58.100 are being really bad

00:15:59.240 at negotiating.

00:16:00.140 I mean really bad.

00:16:01.420 Tone deaf. 1.00

00:16:02.500 No social grace

00:16:03.600 is kind of bad.

00:16:05.920 Either they have no skill

00:16:06.940 or they have skill

00:16:07.620 but just want this thing

00:16:08.680 to fail.

00:16:09.360 Tough to tell.

00:16:10.280 I think some of them

00:16:11.200 want it to fail

00:16:11.780 and others,

00:16:12.480 especially in our

00:16:13.580 state-run media

00:16:14.380 like the CBC,

00:16:15.100 they just don't have

00:16:15.600 the ability

00:16:16.080 to think outside

00:16:17.000 the official narrative.

00:16:17.900 The fact that anyone

00:16:18.860 could be critical

00:16:20.060 of Chrystia Freeland

00:16:20.960 or Justin Trudeau

00:16:22.000 is just,

00:16:22.700 they haven't been able

00:16:23.560 to think that thought.

00:16:24.340 But Doug Ford,

00:16:26.520 the new conservative

00:16:27.440 premier of Ontario,

00:16:28.540 he's worried

00:16:29.180 as well he should be.

00:16:30.920 Ontario is the province

00:16:31.900 that will be hit the worst

00:16:32.860 by a failure

00:16:34.000 to renew NAFTA.

00:16:34.900 That's where most

00:16:35.620 of the auto industry

00:16:36.320 is in Canada.

00:16:37.020 So Doug Ford

00:16:37.980 is actually heading down

00:16:39.220 to Washington

00:16:41.640 to see if he can help.

00:16:42.580 Now, I haven't seen him

00:16:43.420 rant and rave

00:16:44.400 against Donald Trump

00:16:45.440 or the Americans.

00:16:46.120 I haven't seen him

00:16:46.780 wear an anti-Trump shirt

00:16:48.500 or attend an anti-Trump rally.

00:16:51.360 I just hear he's going

00:16:52.140 to go down

00:16:52.580 to see if he can help

00:16:53.260 in negotiations.

00:16:53.840 And the left-wing media

00:16:55.320 are roaring

00:16:56.100 their disapproval.

00:16:57.580 Here are the government

00:16:58.420 comedians

00:16:59.160 from Trudeau's

00:17:00.020 state broadcaster

00:17:00.780 at the CBC.

00:17:01.520 This is the comedy

00:17:02.200 account called

00:17:02.960 22 Minutes.

00:17:03.860 Doug Ford is heading

00:17:04.740 to Washington

00:17:05.280 for the NAFTA negotiations.

00:17:06.680 Ha ha! 0.86

00:17:07.180 How do you think

00:17:07.800 this is going to go?

00:17:08.440 Ha ha! 0.86

00:17:09.580 Well, guys,

00:17:10.760 hey,

00:17:12.080 how could it go

00:17:13.040 any worse

00:17:13.620 than it is now?

00:17:16.520 But I think

00:17:17.120 it could go better.

00:17:17.940 I mean,

00:17:18.200 Doug Ford has actually

00:17:19.280 run a business

00:17:20.160 in his life.

00:17:20.700 He's done some

00:17:21.200 real negotiations before.

00:17:22.380 He's done something

00:17:23.500 in real life before

00:17:24.520 other than just

00:17:25.400 giving pious speeches.

00:17:26.740 I think he probably

00:17:27.480 has more of a natural

00:17:28.360 rapport,

00:17:29.240 just guy to guy

00:17:30.200 with Donald Trump

00:17:31.980 than Chrystia Freeland

00:17:33.100 and Justin Trudeau

00:17:34.620 do to politically

00:17:36.100 correct scolds.

00:17:38.100 I saw this story

00:17:39.300 in the Toronto Star

00:17:40.120 Lethwin paper.

00:17:41.740 Doug Ford dines

00:17:42.800 at Trump Hotel

00:17:43.600 on his NAFTA visit

00:17:44.960 to Washington.

00:17:46.220 That was in the paper

00:17:47.040 yesterday.

00:17:48.700 This is written

00:17:49.600 as if it's a scandal.

00:17:52.380 You think so?

00:17:54.820 Don't you think

00:17:55.200 that's actually

00:17:55.680 a small but smart

00:17:57.660 symbolic thing to do?

00:17:59.460 If you're in a negotiation

00:18:00.340 to get a deal,

00:18:01.380 like if that's your goal,

00:18:03.020 you can stay at any hotel

00:18:04.080 you want in Washington, D.C.

00:18:05.580 There's a ton of hotels

00:18:06.380 and they're all

00:18:07.080 pretty expensive,

00:18:07.960 let me tell you.

00:18:09.340 But if you stay

00:18:10.460 at Trump's Hotel,

00:18:11.440 which is a new hotel

00:18:12.100 I hear it's very nice.

00:18:12.880 I haven't been.

00:18:14.160 If you choose

00:18:15.100 to stay at Trump's Hotel

00:18:16.220 and the word gets out,

00:18:18.380 you let the word

00:18:18.940 get out,

00:18:19.340 you're at Trump's Hotel,

00:18:21.140 even if you just

00:18:21.700 eat a meal there,

00:18:22.480 which I guess

00:18:22.980 is all he did,

00:18:23.440 I don't think

00:18:23.740 he stayed there.

00:18:25.340 Trump will hear

00:18:26.240 that you stayed there

00:18:27.340 or his people

00:18:28.000 will hear that

00:18:28.520 you stayed there

00:18:29.220 and they'll say,

00:18:30.200 oh,

00:18:30.800 this guy isn't

00:18:32.740 a Trump hater.

00:18:34.720 The left will say,

00:18:35.600 oh,

00:18:36.260 Trump is counting

00:18:37.120 his money,

00:18:37.680 he'll like the fact

00:18:38.680 he's getting rich off it.

00:18:39.640 What,

00:18:39.820 did Trump personally

00:18:40.780 make one dollar

00:18:41.560 from that?

00:18:42.220 He's a billionaire,

00:18:42.820 did he make one dollar

00:18:43.460 from that?

00:18:43.660 No,

00:18:44.320 it's a signal

00:18:45.360 that you're not

00:18:46.260 a Trump hater.

00:18:48.260 Do you think

00:18:48.720 Justin Trudeau

00:18:49.500 or Christian Freeland

00:18:50.200 would be caught dead

00:18:51.120 at a Trump hotel?

00:18:53.100 The Toronto Star

00:18:53.760 would mock them about it.

00:18:55.180 But Doug Ford knows

00:18:56.080 you do that.

00:18:56.860 It just sets the table

00:18:58.100 a little bit

00:18:58.580 for your meeting.

00:18:59.340 It sets the mood

00:18:59.880 a little bit.

00:19:00.280 It builds a tiny rapport,

00:19:02.860 a tiny piece of trust

00:19:04.440 or friendship.

00:19:06.640 I mean,

00:19:06.940 let's say

00:19:07.560 if Justin Trudeau

00:19:08.760 had an ounce

00:19:09.480 of entrepreneurial skill

00:19:10.560 in his body

00:19:11.460 and let's say

00:19:11.920 he had a restaurant

00:19:12.800 in Ottawa,

00:19:15.200 Trudeau's,

00:19:16.640 you know,

00:19:17.600 a lot of cheese.

00:19:19.820 Wouldn't every diplomat

00:19:21.280 go to Trudeau's

00:19:23.640 and make sure

00:19:24.860 they were seen

00:19:25.560 to be there

00:19:26.340 just to signal,

00:19:28.260 yeah,

00:19:28.440 I like you,

00:19:28.940 man.

00:19:29.520 When I come

00:19:30.120 and negotiate

00:19:31.140 for something,

00:19:31.920 I'm on here

00:19:32.260 just to curry favor.

00:19:33.600 I'm not,

00:19:34.360 I'm just talking

00:19:35.160 about human nature,

00:19:36.400 common sense.

00:19:37.200 the fact that

00:19:39.120 the left-wing

00:19:39.600 Canadian media

00:19:40.440 ridiculed Doug Ford

00:19:41.560 for even trying

00:19:42.860 to get a deal

00:19:43.380 and for behaving himself

00:19:44.900 and maybe even

00:19:45.520 ingratiating himself

00:19:46.480 by eating lunch

00:19:47.600 at the Trump Hotel,

00:19:48.440 oh my God.

00:19:50.300 Well,

00:19:50.580 I think Doug Ford's

00:19:51.380 probably already

00:19:52.060 doing better

00:19:52.640 than Chrystia Freeland

00:19:53.340 just by having lunch there

00:19:54.620 and not being mean

00:19:55.940 to the other side

00:19:57.100 of the negotiation.

00:19:58.340 But hey,

00:19:59.740 if this whole

00:20:00.560 NAFTA thing fails, 0.69

00:20:03.020 at least Chrystia Freeland

00:20:04.260 will have her shirt

00:20:05.300 while 160,000

00:20:08.960 Ontario auto workers

00:20:10.340 lose theirs.

00:20:12.520 Stay with us for more.

00:20:29.640 We need to be able

00:20:30.840 to build resource projects

00:20:32.520 of all different types

00:20:33.660 with the appropriate

00:20:34.840 social license

00:20:35.760 and Canada

00:20:36.460 is doing that

00:20:38.600 in a way

00:20:38.960 that is laying it out

00:20:40.400 in a clear path.

00:20:42.320 This is the way

00:20:42.960 the world is going

00:20:43.780 and if we can

00:20:44.840 demonstrate

00:20:45.780 clarity

00:20:46.980 and certainty

00:20:47.760 for business

00:20:48.420 through the processes

00:20:49.260 through the investors,

00:20:50.440 we will be able

00:20:51.440 to get more built.

00:20:52.440 But it's thinking

00:20:53.080 about

00:20:53.460 the longer term

00:20:56.500 and not just

00:20:58.500 this project

00:20:59.600 right now

00:21:00.340 that has to be

00:21:01.660 front of mind.

00:21:02.440 It's not just

00:21:03.020 this project

00:21:03.660 that matters.

00:21:04.140 It's the future

00:21:05.240 of resource development

00:21:07.060 in Canada

00:21:07.660 that is on my mind.

00:21:10.060 I wonder if Justin Trudeau

00:21:11.620 actually thinks

00:21:12.600 about what he says

00:21:13.520 and actually believes

00:21:15.020 what he says.

00:21:15.700 He says

00:21:16.120 that there's now

00:21:17.040 clarity and certainty

00:21:18.140 in Canada.

00:21:18.960 Has that ever been

00:21:19.720 less true,

00:21:20.880 especially in the wake

00:21:21.700 of the court case

00:21:23.260 smashing the

00:21:24.480 Trans Mountain pipeline

00:21:25.360 expansion?

00:21:26.320 He says

00:21:26.760 that we are building

00:21:28.060 in accord with

00:21:28.980 social license.

00:21:30.940 I can't think of

00:21:31.860 any major project

00:21:32.780 that has been built

00:21:34.400 let alone approved

00:21:35.300 under Trudeau.

00:21:37.800 Now the Northern

00:21:38.620 Gateway Pipeline

00:21:39.220 Trudeau himself killed.

00:21:40.560 Energy East

00:21:41.060 Trudeau himself killed.

00:21:42.180 Kinder Morgan

00:21:42.700 they just panicked

00:21:46.120 and sold

00:21:46.700 to the government.

00:21:47.560 I wonder if he

00:21:50.100 believes that.

00:21:51.440 That video calls to

00:21:52.660 mind an excellent

00:21:53.300 column in the

00:21:53.920 Edmonton Sun

00:21:54.600 and I'd like to

00:21:55.800 now introduce you

00:21:56.960 to the author of

00:21:57.860 that, my friend

00:21:58.560 Lorne Gunter

00:21:59.320 who joins us

00:21:59.780 now via Skype.

00:22:00.360 Lorne, great to

00:22:00.840 see you.

00:22:01.840 Good to see you.

00:22:02.440 I'm just boggled

00:22:03.220 by it.

00:22:03.540 I'm still running

00:22:05.260 through my mind

00:22:06.020 what Trudeau just

00:22:07.040 said there.

00:22:07.460 I'm sorry I'm

00:22:07.980 distracted by how

00:22:09.140 oblivious he is

00:22:11.200 but let me just

00:22:12.000 mention your

00:22:12.600 headline and

00:22:13.720 then I'd like you

00:22:14.200 because you wrote

00:22:14.820 a great column

00:22:15.320 about this.

00:22:15.880 Your column is

00:22:17.540 called Canada is

00:22:18.300 quickly losing

00:22:18.980 its economic

00:22:20.240 advantages and

00:22:22.360 you mentioned that

00:22:23.420 Canada has 0.52

00:22:23.900 traditionally had

00:22:24.760 a highly educated

00:22:26.380 workforce, abundant

00:22:28.020 natural resources

00:22:28.900 and access to the

00:22:30.160 U.S. market.

00:22:31.700 Frankly two out of

00:22:32.660 three of those

00:22:33.260 have, one is

00:22:34.740 being killed,

00:22:35.540 the energy

00:22:35.860 industry, NAFTA

00:22:37.280 is about to make

00:22:38.840 our access to the

00:22:39.460 U.S. market

00:22:39.960 tougher and you

00:22:41.340 mentioned that

00:22:41.800 Stephen Harper

00:22:42.340 brought in low

00:22:42.980 taxes and that's

00:22:43.760 being undone too.

00:22:44.460 Tell me, expand on

00:22:46.860 your argument.

00:22:48.440 Well, you know, we

00:22:49.340 have had, as I

00:22:51.100 said, three

00:22:51.540 traditional underpinnings

00:22:54.380 for our economic

00:22:55.240 success.

00:22:55.660 We have a lot of

00:22:56.620 resources, not just

00:22:58.420 oil and gas but we

00:22:59.620 have mining and

00:23:00.500 timber and other

00:23:01.740 sorts of natural

00:23:04.520 abundance and that's

00:23:06.800 always been, you

00:23:07.620 know, for years and

00:23:09.540 years and years the

00:23:10.360 trendy thinkers have

00:23:11.400 said, oh, we don't

00:23:12.180 want to be hewers of 0.98

00:23:13.520 wood and drawers of

00:23:14.520 water.

00:23:14.760 Well, actually, there's

00:23:15.620 a lot of money to be

00:23:16.340 made in that and

00:23:17.100 there's some really

00:23:17.560 good jobs in it.

00:23:18.740 It's not easy to do

00:23:20.480 any of that stuff.

00:23:21.440 You need to have

00:23:21.880 very sophisticated

00:23:22.560 workforces with

00:23:24.260 high minds in

00:23:25.320 finance and law and

00:23:27.020 all sorts of other

00:23:28.060 areas.

00:23:28.640 It's not just people

00:23:30.560 with shovels digging

00:23:31.540 rocks.

00:23:32.760 And so that's

00:23:34.340 number one.

00:23:35.220 We have abundant

00:23:35.880 natural resources.

00:23:36.800 We do have the

00:23:37.820 skilled laborers and

00:23:39.280 the mental

00:23:40.540 intellectual

00:23:41.540 intellect to

00:23:42.160 deal with all

00:23:43.860 that very

00:23:44.300 effectively and

00:23:45.720 we've had great

00:23:46.460 access to the U.S.

00:23:47.660 market in one way

00:23:49.160 or another and

00:23:49.740 particularly since the

00:23:50.980 North American free

00:23:51.740 trade agreement or

00:23:52.640 even in 88 the free

00:23:54.280 trade agreement just

00:23:54.940 between Canada and

00:23:55.720 the U.S.

00:23:57.080 Since 88 we've had

00:23:58.740 really good access to

00:24:00.260 the American market

00:24:01.280 and because of a

00:24:03.140 bunch of virtue

00:24:04.340 signaling by the

00:24:05.640 prime minister,

00:24:06.820 we're going to lose

00:24:07.980 all of those.

00:24:09.300 We've lost our

00:24:11.500 abundant, at least

00:24:12.700 the advantage of

00:24:13.940 our abundant natural

00:24:14.800 resources.

00:24:15.460 Thankfully they're all

00:24:16.160 still there in case

00:24:17.140 someone comes along

00:24:17.940 in the future who's

00:24:19.080 a better economic

00:24:19.980 manager than this

00:24:21.080 prime minister in

00:24:21.800 this government.

00:24:22.840 They're still there

00:24:23.880 for us to take

00:24:25.740 advantage of.

00:24:27.500 But on the

00:24:29.280 resource side,

00:24:30.560 they brought in a

00:24:31.600 carbon tax which

00:24:32.300 has scared off a

00:24:33.060 lot of investment.

00:24:33.860 We're looking at

00:24:34.800 according to

00:24:36.300 provincial budget

00:24:38.120 numbers and

00:24:39.240 stats can numbers

00:24:40.360 somewhere in the

00:24:41.300 neighborhood of 60

00:24:42.200 to 100 billion

00:24:43.280 dollars in lost

00:24:44.580 investment.

00:24:45.880 Some of that is of

00:24:46.740 course because of

00:24:47.680 the worldwide price

00:24:49.380 decline in oil.

00:24:50.620 But a lot of it has

00:24:51.820 come back to other

00:24:52.900 countries.

00:24:54.700 Kazakhstan for

00:24:55.540 instance has an oil

00:24:56.740 boom going on.

00:24:57.460 The United States has

00:24:58.320 an oil boom going on.

00:24:59.400 Egypt has an oil

00:25:00.780 boom going on.

00:25:01.560 And despite its

00:25:02.480 location in the world

00:25:03.260 it's not been known

00:25:04.200 as an oil country

00:25:05.440 before.

00:25:06.360 Lots of countries

00:25:07.360 are seeing tens and

00:25:09.100 hundreds of millions

00:25:09.940 of dollars of

00:25:10.840 spending and

00:25:13.160 investment and

00:25:13.880 planned investment.

00:25:15.460 But we are not.

00:25:17.100 There's a company

00:25:17.740 called Woods McKenzie

00:25:18.780 which follows

00:25:19.640 energy investments

00:25:21.840 around the world.

00:25:22.680 It estimates that

00:25:23.320 over the next three

00:25:24.140 to five years there

00:25:25.000 will be in excess

00:25:26.160 of 300 billion

00:25:27.740 dollars of energy

00:25:29.680 investment by major

00:25:31.280 companies around the

00:25:32.040 world.

00:25:32.220 And we're going to

00:25:32.640 get a tiny fraction

00:25:33.900 of that if we get

00:25:35.500 any of it simply

00:25:36.760 because oil

00:25:38.200 companies, energy

00:25:39.220 companies around the

00:25:40.020 world look at the

00:25:41.460 fact that Trudeau

00:25:42.820 the same time he

00:25:43.500 talked about well

00:25:44.140 we're trying to set

00:25:45.160 up a stable market

00:25:46.540 or a stable regime

00:25:48.200 for approving

00:25:49.700 energy projects.

00:25:51.100 He's expanded the

00:25:52.600 amount of time it

00:25:53.280 takes and the

00:25:54.400 huge cost it's

00:25:55.900 going to take to

00:25:57.480 get any kind of

00:25:58.340 market access

00:25:59.720 approved, any kind

00:26:01.240 pipeline, any kind

00:26:02.560 of oil sands

00:26:04.020 project.

00:26:05.600 And very same

00:26:06.840 week he said all

00:26:07.580 of those things.

00:26:08.200 He said, well we

00:26:09.160 have a real problem

00:26:10.220 in our energy

00:26:10.900 sector because we

00:26:13.020 don't have gender 0.99

00:26:13.800 equity.

00:26:14.880 Only 23% of the

00:26:16.620 jobs in the energy

00:26:17.740 sector are held

00:26:19.300 by women. 0.78

00:26:20.300 What in heaven's

00:26:21.400 name does that have

00:26:22.440 to do with anything?

00:26:23.480 Are there legal

00:26:24.800 barriers to women 1.00

00:26:25.900 taking jobs in the

00:26:27.040 energy sector?

00:26:28.200 Our CEOs constantly

00:26:30.400 standing up in front

00:26:31.260 of their tall

00:26:31.800 towers in Calgary

00:26:32.760 and saying, oh

00:26:33.560 women, hey you 1.00

00:26:35.120 babes, don't come 1.00

00:26:36.180 here, we're not

00:26:36.720 hiring any of you.

00:26:37.860 Maybe young women 1.00

00:26:39.860 don't want to go up

00:26:40.880 and work in the

00:26:41.720 boonies in a field 0.73

00:26:43.420 camp 20 days on,

00:26:45.820 10 days off.

00:26:46.460 Maybe it's a choice

00:26:47.200 thing, but what's

00:26:48.300 his alternative to

00:26:49.100 buy OPEC conflict

00:26:50.160 oil with 0% women? 1.00

00:26:52.280 Exactly.

00:26:52.560 I mean in Iran and

00:26:53.420 Saudi Arabia they

00:26:54.020 don't even allow

00:26:54.640 women out of the 1.00

00:26:55.720 house.

00:26:56.080 So he's created

00:26:58.800 all of these

00:26:59.720 barriers to

00:27:01.100 investment, new

00:27:02.960 taxes, new

00:27:04.120 environmental

00:27:04.700 regulations, and

00:27:05.700 most importantly

00:27:06.760 these add-ons that

00:27:09.040 he's put in the

00:27:09.840 way of approval of

00:27:11.360 new projects, add-ons

00:27:12.960 that have very

00:27:13.920 little if anything

00:27:14.780 to do with the

00:27:15.980 environment or with

00:27:17.120 energy, but they're

00:27:18.300 all part of his

00:27:19.280 virtue signaling social

00:27:20.620 agenda.

00:27:21.660 And so companies all

00:27:22.860 around the world

00:27:23.360 are looking at

00:27:23.980 Canada, they used to 1.00

00:27:24.860 look and they say,

00:27:25.380 hey, stable

00:27:26.440 government, well

00:27:27.860 trained workforce,

00:27:29.280 smart financial

00:27:30.080 people, great access

00:27:31.920 to the U.S.

00:27:32.660 market, pretty good,

00:27:34.140 you know, fairly

00:27:34.620 competitive taxes

00:27:35.580 compared to a lot of

00:27:36.740 European countries,

00:27:38.160 and hey, let's put

00:27:39.580 some money in there.

00:27:40.880 There's a good chance

00:27:41.760 we'll get our money

00:27:42.300 out.

00:27:42.520 Now they're looking

00:27:43.100 and they're saying,

00:27:43.560 it's just so

00:27:44.460 complicated, and you

00:27:46.040 can't get anything

00:27:46.720 into a pipeline.

00:27:47.680 We had, you know,

00:27:48.320 the major oil sands

00:27:49.740 companies the other

00:27:50.760 couple weeks ago say

00:27:52.080 they're not going to

00:27:53.220 expand after that

00:27:54.480 federal court of

00:27:55.280 appeal decision that

00:27:56.620 killed Trans Mountain.

00:27:57.620 They're not going to

00:27:58.080 expand their projects

00:27:59.300 because they don't

00:28:00.520 know whether or not

00:28:01.540 they can get what

00:28:02.220 they produce to a

00:28:03.420 market.

00:28:04.260 So these are all the

00:28:06.640 things Trudeau has

00:28:07.400 done.

00:28:07.880 And look at the way

00:28:08.740 he punished, he and

00:28:10.420 Bill Moreno, his

00:28:11.180 finance minister,

00:28:12.280 punished small business

00:28:13.460 owners by increasing

00:28:15.000 the taxes considerably

00:28:16.700 on small business.

00:28:17.940 This is a very

00:28:19.140 anti-business

00:28:21.000 government.

00:28:21.740 You know, you

00:28:22.940 mentioned oil prices.

00:28:24.680 They're artificially low

00:28:26.040 in Canada because of

00:28:27.060 the pipeline restrictions.

00:28:28.880 I saw just the other

00:28:29.560 day Rick Perry, the U.S.

00:28:31.220 energy secretary, talking

00:28:32.820 about a strategic plan to

00:28:35.200 have American oil exports

00:28:37.080 displace conflict oil.

00:28:39.540 I think he was referring

00:28:40.340 in particular to Russian

00:28:42.120 energy.

00:28:42.820 So America isn't just

00:28:44.720 producing more than ever.

00:28:47.040 It's now exporting it,

00:28:48.640 and it's competing with

00:28:50.380 Russia and other

00:28:51.640 conflict oil.

00:28:52.480 That should have been us,

00:28:53.800 Lorne.

00:28:54.260 That should have been us

00:28:55.080 five years ago.

00:28:56.000 That should have been us

00:28:57.000 saying, hey, India, take 0.99

00:28:59.260 our oil instead of Iran's.

00:29:00.640 Hey, China, take our oil 1.00

00:29:02.040 instead of Iran's and

00:29:03.080 Saudi Arabia's.

00:29:04.820 I want to ask you a

00:29:05.740 question about that clip

00:29:06.440 that we played of Trudeau,

00:29:07.440 which I'm sorry, I was

00:29:09.800 stunned by it.

00:29:11.160 I want to show you an

00:29:12.240 equally stunning clip.

00:29:13.320 It really is.

00:29:14.100 Go ahead.

00:29:15.520 No, no, go ahead.

00:29:16.160 I said it's absolutely

00:29:16.780 shocking.

00:29:17.160 I mean, the complete

00:29:18.540 economic cluelessness that

00:29:20.480 the prime minister had.

00:29:21.480 Well, that's the thing.

00:29:22.080 I feel like he's still

00:29:23.080 using his campaign slogans

00:29:24.660 from 2015, and here we

00:29:26.540 are three years later,

00:29:27.320 and they're not working.

00:29:28.400 And when he said, we're

00:29:29.640 building with social

00:29:30.680 license, he ain't build a

00:29:32.100 thing.

00:29:33.140 And it's like when he

00:29:33.760 says energy and the

00:29:35.620 environment and the

00:29:36.820 economy, you need both.

00:29:38.300 Well, we don't have the

00:29:39.480 economy part.

00:29:40.320 Let me play another clip

00:29:41.260 for you.

00:29:42.040 It's sort of similar, and

00:29:43.360 it goes to obliviousness.

00:29:45.340 Do these guys know that

00:29:48.640 their cliche-o-matic 0.99

00:29:50.140 message tracks that maybe

00:29:52.520 worked for a bit in 2015

00:29:54.320 in the election, they sound

00:29:55.940 crazy now.

00:29:57.100 Here's Bill Morneau right

00:29:59.420 after that Trans Mountain

00:30:00.420 Pipeline court case.

00:30:03.640 Well, here, let's just let

00:30:04.820 him do the talking.

00:30:05.460 Take a look.

00:30:05.800 Taken together, today's

00:30:07.740 decisions from the Federal

00:30:08.820 Court of Appeal and from

00:30:10.380 Kinder Morgan shareholders

00:30:11.520 are important next steps in

00:30:14.020 getting this project built in

00:30:15.880 the right way for the benefit

00:30:17.320 of all Canadians.

00:30:19.260 Lorne, that was a scripted

00:30:20.220 comment where he said that

00:30:21.240 this court case stopping the

00:30:23.980 pipeline is an important

00:30:26.920 next step.

00:30:28.860 And by the way, the company

00:30:30.260 that owned that, washing its

00:30:32.540 hands of it, is an important

00:30:34.500 next step in getting it

00:30:36.180 built, Lorne.

00:30:36.700 You know, earlier on you

00:30:38.380 said that Kinder Morgan got

00:30:39.840 spooked and ran off.

00:30:42.000 Kinder Morgan didn't get 0.79

00:30:42.960 spooked.

00:30:43.760 They saw the fans coming.

00:30:45.640 They knew what a dog they

00:30:46.880 had.

00:30:47.280 And they said, oh, you'd like

00:30:48.660 to buy a dead dog for a

00:30:49.840 billion dollars over the

00:30:50.820 asking price?

00:30:51.620 Oh, by all means, go ahead.

00:30:53.700 That's an ex-parrot.

00:30:55.000 That parrot is deceased.

00:30:56.060 Yeah, that parrot has ceased

00:30:57.280 to be.

00:30:58.380 Exactly.

00:30:59.380 And, you know, I remember

00:31:01.060 when Donald Trump was fresh

00:31:02.980 in office and scrapping

00:31:05.360 global warming meetings was

00:31:08.260 high on his agenda.

00:31:08.940 I remember after he announced,

00:31:10.280 I remember his saying, he

00:31:11.520 said, I was elected by

00:31:12.260 Pittsburgh, not Paris.

00:31:13.820 I just love that.

00:31:15.620 It was just such a, that

00:31:17.900 exactly summed it up.

00:31:19.100 And I remember watching

00:31:19.820 Catherine McKenna, the

00:31:21.520 environment minister, go on

00:31:22.680 Evan Solomon's show.

00:31:23.880 And I respect Evan.

00:31:24.940 I don't agree with him on

00:31:25.660 everything, but I think he's

00:31:26.940 one of the few reporters in

00:31:27.940 Ottawa that asks firm

00:31:29.060 questions of these liberals.

00:31:31.560 And he said, aren't you

00:31:32.940 worried about getting out of

00:31:34.100 sync with America on energy

00:31:36.820 and carbon taxes?

00:31:37.940 She said, oh, no, the

00:31:39.400 carbon tax train is taking,

00:31:41.160 we're on the train.

00:31:42.660 And even Evan Solomon back

00:31:45.080 then said, are you sure?

00:31:46.460 I mean, Trump's going in this

00:31:47.440 direction, and now you add

00:31:48.740 Trump's tax cuts.

00:31:49.920 I think these folks thought

00:31:53.380 that Hillary Clinton would win

00:31:54.620 and they would harmoniously

00:31:56.300 be global warming, carbon

00:31:58.620 taxing, you know, eco

00:32:01.100 extremists.

00:32:02.180 Instead, they're still on that

00:32:03.880 path as if Hillary Clinton

00:32:05.160 won.

00:32:06.400 And Donald Trump doesn't even

00:32:08.200 have to try.

00:32:09.340 He's just sucking all the money

00:32:10.580 and investment back down to

00:32:12.280 him.

00:32:12.420 And if we're not careful, he's

00:32:13.660 going to take our factories

00:32:14.500 too.

00:32:15.580 Well, and I think it's worse

00:32:18.460 than that, though, with the

00:32:19.600 liberals.

00:32:19.900 And that is that they really

00:32:22.440 it's not as though they're

00:32:24.320 pretending that what they

00:32:26.180 promised in 2015 is still

00:32:29.580 happening, even though they

00:32:30.640 know it's not.

00:32:32.000 They don't know it's not like

00:32:33.340 they they still believe their

00:32:34.880 bump.

00:32:35.320 They still believe their

00:32:36.440 campaign slogans.

00:32:37.580 They still think that there's a

00:32:39.280 magic wand out there that they

00:32:41.300 can wave with provided they use

00:32:43.760 enough taxpayer dollars.

00:32:45.040 And suddenly this carbon free

00:32:47.900 economy will spring into

00:32:49.840 existence and we won't

00:32:51.360 anymore need jobs as welders

00:32:54.020 on pipelines because we'll

00:32:55.640 have great jobs installing

00:32:57.480 solar panels on on all the

00:32:59.940 playground equipment or

00:33:01.260 something.

00:33:01.680 You know, they just have these

00:33:03.560 fanciful ideas because you

00:33:05.020 could see that in Ontario.

00:33:06.200 Right.

00:33:06.340 A lot of the people you and I

00:33:07.500 have talked about this before.

00:33:08.500 A lot of the people who run the

00:33:10.300 federal liberal government now

00:33:11.560 used to run the Ontario

00:33:12.980 provincial government.

00:33:14.200 government, the liberal

00:33:15.060 provincial government, and

00:33:16.680 they ran that economy into

00:33:18.700 the ground.

00:33:19.900 They spent a decade and

00:33:21.160 somewhere close to 60

00:33:22.620 billion dollars trying to

00:33:24.460 force this alternate energy

00:33:26.540 economy into existence.

00:33:28.180 Never even came close.

00:33:30.620 Ran up the largest non

00:33:32.340 national debt of any

00:33:34.140 government in the world and

00:33:36.880 did nothing.

00:33:37.720 But this none of this really

00:33:40.000 surprises me with the prime

00:33:41.140 minister.

00:33:41.580 When I take a step back and I

00:33:44.180 think about what he did before

00:33:45.420 he became an MP and for a

00:33:47.220 long time after he became an

00:33:48.500 MP, his job was to be a

00:33:50.500 motivational speaker.

00:33:51.680 Yeah.

00:33:52.140 Yeah.

00:33:52.500 You know, he would jump into

00:33:54.560 usually a public sector

00:33:56.640 union convention, deliver a

00:34:00.040 speech for 10 or 20 or

00:34:01.420 $30,000, you know, telling

00:34:03.920 what marvelous people they were

00:34:05.940 and how essential they were to

00:34:07.340 the kind of Canadian community

00:34:08.920 that we should all be trying to

00:34:10.500 build.

00:34:10.740 It was all very touchy feely,

00:34:12.560 all very amorphous.

00:34:14.960 And then then he would leave.

00:34:17.160 And that's really the depth of

00:34:19.000 his intellect.

00:34:19.620 Yeah.

00:34:20.060 Well, you know, and that's a

00:34:21.380 great observation.

00:34:22.040 And he himself admits it.

00:34:23.480 I think you and I have talked

00:34:24.360 about this before when he was

00:34:25.800 convicted of breaking the

00:34:27.240 conflict of interest law four

00:34:28.420 times.

00:34:29.340 The ethics commissioner in her

00:34:31.000 report called the Trudeau

00:34:32.180 report, if you want to find

00:34:33.040 it, noted that Trudeau's

00:34:36.080 defense for taking this

00:34:37.980 hundred thousand dollar free

00:34:39.100 vacation on this billionaire's

00:34:40.540 island was, oh, sure, he

00:34:42.380 might have that billionaire

00:34:44.360 might have been lobbying for

00:34:45.560 huge government grants at the

00:34:46.920 same time he was giving me a

00:34:47.960 gift.

00:34:48.220 But I didn't know what he was

00:34:49.480 talking about because I never

00:34:50.520 get into the details of any

00:34:52.240 file.

00:34:52.660 I'm just there for relational

00:34:53.840 reasons, back slapping, make

00:34:55.780 sure you OK.

00:34:56.620 Hey, how you doing?

00:34:57.480 You OK?

00:34:58.140 OK, you guys do.

00:34:59.240 He basically his excuse for

00:35:01.600 breaking the law that the

00:35:02.820 commissioner did not accept

00:35:04.140 was, I don't know what

00:35:05.840 anybody's talking about.

00:35:07.200 I just spelt the cliches and

00:35:08.880 then I go do a photo op.

00:35:10.540 I don't even, you know, I'm

00:35:12.900 an unfrozen caveman lawyer.

00:35:14.600 I don't know about what is

00:35:16.460 this cell phone.

00:35:17.220 You know, it's pitiful.

00:35:19.120 But I actually think I've

00:35:20.780 always said he should have

00:35:23.120 been the governor general

00:35:24.580 because he loves the photo

00:35:25.880 ops.

00:35:26.300 He's handsome.

00:35:27.320 He speaks English and

00:35:28.160 French.

00:35:29.820 He actually has in his bones

00:35:31.800 a love for Canada.

00:35:32.920 Let's acknowledge that.

00:35:34.160 Oh, absolutely.

00:35:34.800 He should have been the

00:35:35.780 governor general.

00:35:36.440 He gets all the perks and

00:35:38.060 none of the possibilities.

00:35:38.660 He's taken in different

00:35:40.120 places in Canada than any

00:35:41.460 other individual in our

00:35:42.700 history.

00:35:43.120 So he's the shirtless

00:35:44.720 selfie champion of all of

00:35:47.460 Canadian history.

00:35:48.180 So clearly he loves the

00:35:49.220 country.

00:35:49.720 I don't doubt that for a

00:35:51.200 second.

00:35:51.380 He should have been

00:35:51.920 governor general.

00:35:52.980 And, you know, who's the

00:35:54.460 former astronaut?

00:35:55.280 Mark Garneau should have

00:35:56.380 been the liberal leader.

00:35:57.580 And, you know, he had a

00:35:58.780 little respect for the

00:35:59.540 military.

00:35:59.840 He's a former Air Force

00:36:00.680 man himself, if I'm not

00:36:01.540 mistaken.

00:36:02.320 An astronaut, in fact.

00:36:03.600 Obviously a smart dude.

00:36:06.060 That's how history should

00:36:07.160 unfold, Lorne.

00:36:08.560 But instead, we've got the

00:36:09.520 selfie boy running us into

00:36:11.160 the ground.

00:36:11.480 Last question to you.

00:36:14.700 Sorry, what did you used to

00:36:15.880 call him?

00:36:16.340 The shiny pony?

00:36:17.220 The shiny pony.

00:36:17.880 The shiny pony.

00:36:19.040 The shiny pony.

00:36:21.400 Because he's got that

00:36:22.240 beautiful hair.

00:36:23.000 Hey, Lorne, I got a

00:36:23.840 question for you.

00:36:24.760 One of the things that has

00:36:25.680 depressed me over the last

00:36:27.040 few years was the feeling

00:36:29.220 that I and others like me,

00:36:32.600 and I put you in this

00:36:33.360 category, we're Cassandras. 0.57

00:36:34.760 That is someone making an

00:36:36.380 awful prediction about the

00:36:37.380 future, but no one would

00:36:38.340 listen to us.

00:36:39.400 And are we mad?

00:36:41.400 People think we're crazy.

00:36:43.240 Is everyone else crazy and

00:36:44.900 we're saying, like, are we

00:36:46.060 the only people that see

00:36:47.180 this?

00:36:47.940 And I'm starting to detect

00:36:49.240 some chips in the armor

00:36:52.040 that maybe not everyone is

00:36:54.380 going along with this.

00:36:55.360 Doug Ford's election win in

00:36:57.340 Ontario was a major symbol

00:37:00.680 and sign that maybe not

00:37:02.680 everyone's going along with

00:37:03.800 this left-wing gobbledygook.

00:37:05.620 And do you have hope?

00:37:08.540 Is there reason to hope?

00:37:09.900 Because I didn't have a lot

00:37:11.240 of hope until Doug Ford won.

00:37:12.720 I thought we were fighting a

00:37:13.740 retreating battle.

00:37:14.520 What do you think?

00:37:15.380 Yeah, and I still think we

00:37:17.200 are.

00:37:18.980 The latest polling that I

00:37:20.900 saw, in fact, I think it

00:37:21.920 came out in the middle of the

00:37:23.580 night last night from

00:37:24.860 Abacus Data, is that the

00:37:27.000 Liberals are the only party

00:37:28.920 that still has a positive

00:37:31.440 approval rating.

00:37:33.140 And the Prime Minister is the

00:37:34.800 only political leader who has

00:37:36.880 a positive approval rating,

00:37:38.160 meaning more people think he's

00:37:39.600 doing a good job than think

00:37:40.700 he's doing a poor job.

00:37:42.380 So, you know, if you can

00:37:44.300 capture Montreal, Toronto,

00:37:47.660 Ottawa and Vancouver in a

00:37:49.800 federal election, and I think

00:37:50.920 the Liberals will, you are well

00:37:53.920 on your way to a victory.

00:37:55.560 You add in Atlantic Canada,

00:37:57.520 where they're still very, very

00:37:58.600 strong, and you don't need

00:37:59.980 Toronto outside of the GTA,

00:38:03.940 plus the Prairie West.

00:38:06.340 You don't need them, and you'll

00:38:09.200 still win a majority.

00:38:10.440 And so, unfortunately, I'm still

00:38:12.220 very pessimistic about the 2019

00:38:13.800 election.

00:38:14.800 But in the longer term, no, I

00:38:17.520 think we'll see a return to some

00:38:19.460 sanity.

00:38:19.900 Yeah, well, I hope so.

00:38:21.480 I hate to recall the fact that

00:38:23.280 Pierre Trudeau was the Prime

00:38:25.600 Minister for almost 16

00:38:27.600 contiguous years.

00:38:28.780 There was that Joe Clark...

00:38:30.060 Yeah, the son is not as big an

00:38:32.060 acorn as the father, so I think

00:38:34.820 that he will fall more lightly

00:38:36.880 from the tree.

00:38:37.680 He'll be gone sooner.

00:38:39.900 Lauren Gunter, great to talk to

00:38:40.820 you.

00:38:40.940 Thanks for letting me keep you,

00:38:42.100 and thanks for chewing over these

00:38:44.140 crazy subjects with us.

00:38:45.260 Great to see you again.

00:38:46.580 Good to see you.

00:38:47.340 All right, there you have it.

00:38:48.040 Lauren Gunter, his article.

00:38:48.980 By the way, if you haven't read

00:38:50.300 it yet, it's in the Edmonton

00:38:51.240 Sun.

00:38:51.900 It's called Canada is Quickly

00:38:53.440 Losing Its Economic Advantages,

00:38:56.460 and I hate to say it, he's dead

00:38:57.780 right.

00:38:58.420 It makes me sad.

00:38:59.700 Stay with us.

00:39:00.380 More Ahead on the Rebel.

00:39:12.980 Hey, welcome back.

00:39:13.860 On my monologue yesterday about

00:39:15.200 CBC launching a new propaganda

00:39:17.540 channel at your kids called CBC Kids

00:39:19.500 News, Bill writes, the CBC is the

00:39:22.640 conduit for liberal government

00:39:23.680 funded child exploitation.

00:39:26.420 Now, you know, the world child

00:39:27.980 exploitation implies a sexual

00:39:30.780 molestation, so I'm not going to use

00:39:32.240 that word because I think it has a

00:39:33.600 special meaning.

00:39:35.340 But targeting children for political

00:39:37.900 brainwashing, that is gross, and that

00:39:40.600 is a tactic of the authoritarians in

00:39:45.040 history.

00:39:47.920 You know, many authoritarians, I don't

00:39:50.980 want to misquote Hitler, but he said

00:39:53.200 something like, give me a child at age

00:39:55.460 eight.

00:39:56.300 I mean, there was the Hitlerjugend, the 0.88

00:39:58.980 Hitler Youth.

00:39:59.680 In the Soviet Union, they had the young 0.98

00:40:01.180 pioneers.

00:40:01.700 I told you about Pavlik Morozov.

00:40:04.380 If you can make a child's first loyalty to

00:40:06.800 the state and turn the child against the

00:40:09.240 parents, you've destroyed the family as an

00:40:11.840 alternative source of power and trust to the

00:40:14.280 state.

00:40:16.020 Forgive my digression for a moment, but I knew

00:40:20.160 some Soviet emigres who came over from the

00:40:22.860 former Soviet Union in the late 70s to Calgary, to

00:40:25.720 many cities in Canada.

00:40:27.460 And one of them told me that he, maybe I told

00:40:30.460 you this story before, but just give me a

00:40:31.560 minute.

00:40:32.020 He told me that he joined the Boy Scouts, which

00:40:35.500 was the young pioneers.

00:40:37.800 And, you know, I joined the Cub Scouts and the

00:40:39.960 Scouts in Canada, and you have your sash and you

00:40:42.040 have your different, you know, pins and

00:40:44.140 badges.

00:40:45.560 And they all wore a little lapel pin, and on

00:40:49.640 the lapel pin was the face of that boy we

00:40:53.880 showed yesterday, Pavlik Morozov, who was

00:40:56.640 given the title informant number one for turning

00:41:00.340 in his parents to Stalin's KGB because they

00:41:05.080 criticized Stalin's forced collectivization of

00:41:07.560 farms.

00:41:07.860 So understand what that does.

00:41:09.960 You tell the child the highest honor, the highest

00:41:14.020 level of service, the highest ideal is to love the

00:41:17.400 Communist Party so much that you'll actually turn in

00:41:20.140 your parents if they speak ill of the party.

00:41:23.660 And could you imagine being a parent and dropping,

00:41:26.060 like dropping your kids off at Girl Guides or Cub

00:41:28.000 Scouts?

00:41:28.360 That's a great pleasure.

00:41:29.380 They're learning things.

00:41:30.140 You're excited.

00:41:30.960 They're learning skills, some outdoorsy stuff.

00:41:32.980 Imagine you're dropping your kids off.

00:41:35.260 And yeah, I bet you the young communist pioneers learn

00:41:38.120 those fun Cub Scout skills too.

00:41:40.240 But the whole thing had a political purpose, drive a

00:41:44.540 wedge between the child and the parent.

00:41:45.920 Now, I'm not saying that CBC Kids News is quite as

00:41:49.100 diabolical or as extreme as that.

00:41:52.860 But when you are having child actors read grown-up propaganda

00:41:57.260 in childlike language designed to speak to children around

00:42:03.380 their parents about extreme issues like marijuana use and

00:42:06.960 six-gender sex ed and criticizing American refugee policies, I'm

00:42:12.580 sorry, that is not news, that's propaganda, and it is in the

00:42:15.820 style of the young pioneers.

00:42:18.120 All right, let me move on.

00:42:19.300 Deb writes, they are so open about this indoctrination, even in

00:42:22.620 our schools.

00:42:23.340 They really want generation after generation of new liberals.

00:42:25.980 How dare they go after our children?

00:42:28.280 Well, yeah, you know, we just did a video.

00:42:29.960 It wasn't on my show, but you can find it elsewhere on the

00:42:32.720 website about Sephora Berman, the hardcore left-wing

00:42:37.000 anti-oil extremist, used to work for Greenpeace, works for a

00:42:40.240 U.S. lobby group called Stand Earth right now.

00:42:43.080 She was invited by the Alberta Teachers Association to speak

00:42:45.780 at a teachers' conference.

00:42:47.680 What are you doing?

00:42:49.020 Well, of course, I know exactly what she's doing.

00:42:51.200 She's trying to turn the teachers of Alberta into anti-oil 1.00

00:42:55.380 activists to propagate her message into their classrooms.

00:42:59.400 Not that they need a lot of encouragement, the Alberta

00:43:01.440 Teachers Association is far left-wing.

00:43:03.120 So, yeah, it's the move.

00:43:05.480 On my interview with James O'Keefe about Project Veritas' new

00:43:08.480 videos exposing the deep state in America, Paul writes,

00:43:11.520 this couldn't have come out at a better time.

00:43:13.600 While the Democrats are pushing the deep state to help them

00:43:15.840 influence the election.

00:43:18.340 Yeah, and of course, Donald Trump has ordered the unredacted

00:43:23.100 release of an enormous number of deep state memos on the

00:43:27.360 national security side of things.

00:43:28.940 We're touching the FBI and all those, that whole Russiagate

00:43:31.780 business.

00:43:32.340 It'll be fascinating.

00:43:33.400 It's interesting to me how many liberal journalists are

00:43:36.100 against this, they love getting selective leaks from their CIA

00:43:39.960 or NSA sources.

00:43:41.500 But when Donald Trump says, you know what?

00:43:43.260 Forget the leaks.

00:43:43.980 I'm going to release every single thing.

00:43:45.560 Let the chips fall where they may.

00:43:46.920 They're panicking.

00:43:47.760 Why is that?

00:43:48.740 I've never seen journalists reject more documents and more

00:43:52.320 information before.

00:43:53.280 I wonder why.

00:43:55.260 Peter writes, there is a deep state in Canada too, but it is

00:43:58.720 not called that.

00:43:59.780 Much of the federal bureaucracy is liberal and actively worked

00:44:02.240 against Harper when he was in office.

00:44:03.620 Oh, you are so true.

00:44:05.380 I don't know if you remember, there was a song in the last

00:44:07.760 election by a bunch of civil servants in Ottawa called

00:44:10.460 Harper Man.

00:44:12.180 And it was an anti-Harper song.

00:44:13.940 It was all these civil servants, they're singing Harper Man 0.90

00:44:16.300 while going to work for Harper the Man.

00:44:18.580 You know that they were slow walking everything and foiling

00:44:21.480 everything they could.

00:44:22.800 As you know, we put out a shirt called I'm a Harper Man.

00:44:26.060 We said, you know what?

00:44:27.040 I'm a Harper Man.

00:44:27.940 So we turned it into a positive.

00:44:29.300 But absolutely, and the coalition and the coalescence between

00:44:35.020 bureaucrats and diplomats and lawyers and law professors and

00:44:41.160 judges and the media and even pop culture, it's just, it's one

00:44:45.840 big, the Japanese had a word for a karitsu.

00:44:48.460 It's like a, it's an oligarchy.

00:44:50.360 It's a permanent class.

00:44:51.900 Yeah.

00:44:52.280 We got it in Canada bad. 0.96

00:44:53.760 Well, folks, that's my show of the day.

00:44:57.080 And you know what?

00:44:57.760 I got, I thought it was an interesting monologue myself and I

00:45:01.540 got some positive feedback about it.

00:45:03.200 People were shocked about that CBC Kids News thing.

00:45:05.520 So we put that monologue on YouTube.

00:45:08.060 The whole thing, we do that, as you know, about once a month or

00:45:10.980 so.

00:45:11.540 We put about a couple of interviews a month on YouTube.

00:45:17.200 And this, we put the CBC Kids News World one on YouTube.

00:45:20.500 I love doing it because I love to get these things watched by

00:45:23.980 tens of thousands more people and just subscribe every month.

00:45:27.120 But I want to keep the good stuff for you, the folks who pay

00:45:30.140 eight bucks a month to be premium members, because it is your

00:45:33.220 payment of that $8 a month that keeps us strong.

00:45:35.760 So I want to keep the good stuff for you.

00:45:37.440 But once a month, we'll put something outside the paywall.

00:45:39.640 And we did that with that one.

00:45:41.560 All right, folks, until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here

00:45:44.480 at Rebel World Headquarters, see you at home.

00:45:46.580 Good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:45:50.500 Good night.

00:45:52.100 Good night.

00:45:53.140 Good night.

00:46:02.020 Good night.

00:46:05.760 Good night.

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Rebel News Podcast - September 21, 2018

PROOF： Canada is actually trying to destroy the NAFTA negotiations

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