Rebel News Podcast - Rebel News vs Trudeau at Leaders Debate

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. It's been a day since we won in federal court and busted down the door of

00:00:07.800 censorship that Justin Trudeau's Liberal Debates Commission had erected to stop us.

00:00:12.960 Today, I review the day, not only in court, but later that night when our reporters went to the

00:00:18.640 debate and asked questions, not one, not two, three, four, or five, not even six or seven,

00:00:23.520 but we had eight questions that we got in between us, six of them asked by us, and two by

00:00:30.180 Andrew Lawton of True North. I'm very, very proud of yesterday, and if you're the one of those who

00:00:34.400 helped us pay for our legal fees, thank you very much, and I hope you feel proud too.

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00:01:00.880 Tonight, yesterday was one of the best days in the history of Rebel News, and one of the worst

00:01:22.380 for Justin Trudeau. It's October 8th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:26.220 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:32.080 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:36.140 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody

00:01:41.000 right to do so.

00:01:47.200 If you saw yesterday's show, you know that we had an amazing day, almost a miracle. At least it felt

00:01:53.360 that way. It started very early in the morning when I went downtown here in Toronto to the Federal

00:01:58.560 Court of Canada. That's the particular court that oversees certain matters of a national scope,

00:02:04.760 like the National Debates Commission, which had been created by Justin Trudeau just a year ago.

00:02:10.140 It was an atrocious idea. The National Debates Commission, it was Trudeau nationalizing,

00:02:16.420 governmentizing, a private sector media institution. But of course, I mean, he's renting most journalists

00:02:23.700 these days. Anyhow, why not just buy them? Now, the website of the Debates Commission swears on a

00:02:30.260 stack of Bibles that they're all about independence from government, which is how you can tell that it's

00:02:36.060 absolutely not independent from government. First of all, Trudeau's hand, he handpicked the members of

00:02:42.120 the Debate Commission, so they're like fingers on a hand. But second of all, the Debate Commission just

00:02:47.280 delegated back to the Trudeau government the decisions, including which journalists to let in.

00:02:55.100 Just to be clear, I'm not even talking about the five liberal feminists who were put in charge of 1.00

00:03:00.520 moderating the debate. I mean, of course, Trudeau liked having his old fangirl, Rosemary Barton,

00:03:06.420 on the moderating panel and her rival for Trudeau's affection, Althea Raj. We never did get a good

00:03:14.600 explanation for why Althea Raj had a private meeting with Gerald Butts, Justin Trudeau's

00:03:19.200 Rasputin figure. Oh, well, I'm sure it's nothing. Trudeau's right-hand man having a private tete-a-tete

00:03:24.940 with one of the debate moderators, who he happens to pay right before the debate. I'm sure it's nothing.

00:03:30.800 I'm sure she met with all the campaign different staff, Maxime Bernier's staff, Andrew Scheer's

00:03:36.420 staff one-on-one like that, right? Anyway, back to my point. Not only did Trudeau choose everyone

00:03:42.600 actually moderating the debates and running the debates, they chose who was even allowed into

00:03:48.500 the building, and that's where we came in. Here is a list of all the officially accredited journalists.

00:03:54.520 Look at that. CBC, CBC, CBC, CBC, CNN, CTV, CTV. Look at that. CTV, CTV, CTV, CTV, CTV,

00:04:01.800 global, global, global, global, global, global. La Presse, McLean's. There's more than 200 names

00:04:07.920 here. More than 85 of them are CBC or the French equivalent, Radio Canada, if you can believe it.

00:04:14.260 In fact, about two-thirds of these names are from CBC or CTV or the other hand-picked organizations

00:04:20.540 that officially ran the debate. It was an inside job. I note that the Globe and Mail was shut out

00:04:26.060 from the moderators' panel, so was Postmedia. Those are huge companies, of course. Bob Fyfe of

00:04:31.140 the Globe and Mail has been the most effective journalist in the year, but he was shut out.

00:04:35.580 Just the selfie girls were allowed in. But of those 200 journalists who were allowed into the building,

00:04:41.960 again, I'm not talking about the five moderators, of those 200, there were many foreigners,

00:04:45.640 including three from Al Jazeera, the state broadcaster of the dictatorship of Qatar,

00:04:51.960 for example. So now all of this was approved by the government of Canada.

00:04:56.360 That's what we learned in court yesterday, that this so-called independent debate commission

00:05:02.380 didn't even vet the journalists themselves. I don't know why you would vet the journalists,

00:05:07.440 but they delegated that right back to Trudeau. In fact, you can see in the rejection letter

00:05:13.640 that both David and Kian got. The email came from the government of Canada. I don't know if you can

00:05:20.680 see his email at the address at the top. Paral.gc.ca, that's the parliament, and it was from Trudeau's

00:05:27.400 press gallery chief. That's the Trudeau way, isn't it? Pretend something is independent,

00:05:32.500 but actually control it like he does with the so-called independent senators.

00:05:37.040 Oh, and then have them delegate back to Trudeau any thinking or deciding, in this case,

00:05:41.440 which journalists even get into the building. That's a control freak. What a sham this whole

00:05:46.320 thing was. Well, Justice Russell Zinn of the Federal Court of Canada wasn't having any of it.

00:05:53.760 He fired a rocket at this debates commission, ordering it to accredit Kian and David, and off

00:06:01.120 they went. In fact, they had to leave Toronto for Ottawa even before the hearing began because they

00:06:07.780 wanted to make sure they were at the debate in time. Now, I stuck around. Of course, our lawyers

00:06:11.980 did too. I was so happy when we went. I could barely believe it, really, just because we're so used to

00:06:17.580 fighting uphill battles, fighting impossible fights. And the whole establishment seemed to be

00:06:22.220 deciding that the new way was to de-platform and marginalize people outside. A very narrow

00:06:27.800 bandwidth of elite opinion. Not Justice Zinn, apparently. He let us right in. He ordered us in.

00:06:34.760 And in we went, in the front door, not standing outside, being harassed by cops like last time.

00:06:42.260 I'm documenting everything.

00:06:44.680 Why?

00:06:44.920 What do you mean, why?

00:06:48.700 Because I'm a journalist.

00:06:50.040 Yeah, we're police.

00:06:51.220 Cool.

00:06:51.840 Okay, show me your idea of journalist. You said you're journalist, but it's just bullshit, or? 0.99

00:06:58.460 No, it's not just bullshit, and I have no obligation to show you anything. 0.99

00:07:02.300 We received a complaint. 0.99

00:07:04.140 You received a complaint?

00:07:05.660 Yeah.

00:07:06.100 From who?

00:07:06.580 From whom?

00:07:07.420 I don't know.

00:07:08.000 I have the right to tell you to stay away, like 300 meters from here, if you don't show

00:07:16.540 me what's in your bag. Show me, you tell me you're a journalist, but you don't have an

00:07:21.260 ID that shows me you're a journalist? I'm not going to show you what's in my bag.

00:07:26.840 Okay, so you go out.

00:07:28.660 To where? Where's the line?

00:07:29.880 Okay. Next corner.

00:07:32.520 Do you mind if I call my lawyer quickly?

00:07:35.020 Yeah, we got ID'd that he's a journalist now, don't we?

00:07:38.000 It's in the form of a court order, buddy.

00:07:40.580 Anyways, in went David and Kean.

00:07:43.200 Now, for the most of the debate, it wasn't really that interesting.

00:07:46.900 Kean and David really just saw what anyone watching on TV at home would see.

00:07:51.540 A strange mishmash of a debate.

00:07:53.440 People talking over each other.

00:07:54.860 Way too much talk time for the vain journalists themselves.

00:07:58.600 Weird format.

00:07:59.280 For example, no closing statements from the candidates.

00:08:03.100 It was as lame as you'd imagine a government-run anything would be.

00:08:06.300 And it started so early in the day, too.

00:08:09.540 No one in British Columbia who had a job or was picking kids up from school would even

00:08:13.800 be home to watch it.

00:08:16.340 Funny about that, all of those quirks are to Trudeau's benefit.

00:08:20.160 He doesn't want to debate at all.

00:08:21.660 He's not good at them.

00:08:22.720 He only agreed to do just the one in English.

00:08:25.040 And he certainly didn't want to be seen in British Columbia where he sacked Jody Wilson-Raybould.

00:08:30.440 And surprise, the Independent Debate Commission agreed with him on all of these points.

00:08:35.000 But the fun started after the official debate was over.

00:08:38.900 That's when the politicians came to the scrum to answer questions from journalists, including

00:08:44.720 the ruffians of the 200 on that list.

00:08:47.100 Now, in court yesterday, Justice Zinn said, and he was right, that being accredited to

00:08:53.140 last night's debate really didn't mean much of anything at all other than access to this

00:08:59.340 scrum.

00:09:00.060 And he said yesterday in court, it was very interesting, he said with the 200-plus journalists

00:09:03.960 in the room, you saw the list, what was the odds that Kian Bexte or David Menzies or

00:09:09.120 Andrew Lawton of True North would even get a question?

00:09:11.840 He compared it to winning a lottery, not a lottery where you have a one in 200 chance,

00:09:17.920 it's a pretty good lottery.

00:09:19.280 Now, Andrew Lawton's lawyer had a good reply in court.

00:09:22.840 She said, judge, you can't win a lottery if you're not even allowed to buy a ticket.

00:09:28.940 But actually, not all 200 journalists in the room were reporters.

00:09:31.720 Like I say, there were about 85 or so from the CBC alone, but many were just junior assistants,

00:09:37.360 junior producers, coffee getters, people whispering in the ear of the talent.

00:09:41.840 You look beautiful.

00:09:43.020 You're really great.

00:09:44.000 I think you're great.

00:09:45.540 So of the actual practicing journalists in the CBC, maybe there were only 10.

00:09:50.400 So maybe there were only 50 journalists total trying to ask questions, so that's a better

00:09:54.420 lottery, right?

00:09:55.340 But Kian made sure he got to the microphone first.

00:10:01.280 And his questions were really good.

00:10:03.320 He asked a question of the Bloc Québécois leader who refused to answer Kian because, well, 0.50

00:10:08.680 who knows, I doubt that one in 100 French-speaking Quebecers has even heard of Rebel News or Kian

00:10:14.940 Bextie.

00:10:16.240 They have no opinion about us, so the Bloc Québécois virtue signaling would be lost on

00:10:20.880 his base of French Quebecers.

00:10:22.540 But he knows that the Ottawa mean girls, well, they hate the rebels.

00:10:26.580 So the Bloc Québécois knew he could avoid answering a question by just saying, I don't

00:10:30.600 talk to the rebel.

00:10:31.120 But Kian asked anyways, because the judge let him, and I'm glad he did.

00:10:36.200 Here, take a look.

00:10:37.540 Kian, Rebel News.

00:10:38.820 My question is...

00:10:39.900 I won't answer Rebel News.

00:10:41.380 Okay, well, I'll keep asking the question because the judge said that we could be here

00:10:43.740 and ask questions, so I'll continue to ask the question.

00:10:45.840 Western separatism is on the rise.

00:10:47.600 And if TMX is canceled by a May-Singh-Trudeau coalition, that intention will inevitably spike

00:10:56.600 even more, what's your advice to Albertans who think that Confederation is broken?

00:11:02.240 My answer is that I won't answer you.

00:11:07.200 He won't answer Kian, who's an Alberta boy asking about Alberta.

00:11:11.020 Boy, the Bloc will take Alberta money, won't they?

00:11:14.080 All right, so the Bloc leader didn't answer Kian, and he's pretty brave.

00:11:17.060 Hey, mate, if you can't answer questions from a 24-year-old reporter asking you a pretty

00:11:22.140 friendly question, actually, maybe you're not quite tough enough to, you know, negotiate

00:11:28.780 with your public sector unions or, in his Bloc-Cibiquot fantasy, negotiate the separation

00:11:34.820 from Canada.

00:11:36.900 Yeah, I've never heard of that Bloc leader either.

00:11:39.420 Kian wasn't done, though.

00:11:40.440 He had a lot more questions.

00:11:42.420 If Justice Zinn said he needed to win the lottery to ask, well, Kian won three lotteries 0.99

00:11:49.380 last night.

00:11:50.180 Here he is asking a question of Justin Trudeau himself.

00:11:54.660 Hi, Mr. Trudeau.

00:11:55.520 Since your multiple use of blackface became an international scandal, Canada's international

00:12:00.780 reputation has been irreparably harmed.

00:12:04.520 Have you reached out to any African leaders or any leaders from the Middle East to apologize

00:12:08.800 for your conduct?

00:12:10.140 Canada will continue to engage in a positive, constructive way around the world, standing

00:12:14.960 up for human rights, engaging with leaders right around the world.

00:12:19.360 Because we know that promoting our values and prosperity for everyone around the world

00:12:25.620 is good for Canadians and creates better opportunities for everyone.

00:12:29.640 So that didn't answer the question at all.

00:12:31.460 Have you spoken to any African leaders or leaders from the Middle East to apologize for

00:12:35.860 your personal conduct?

00:12:37.060 I have continued to engage with leaders around the world in a responsible way during an election

00:12:43.280 campaign.

00:12:43.320 My focus is connecting with Canadians, as I was able to tonight.

00:12:47.280 And I was very pleased to see so many of the questions turned to the environment.

00:12:51.400 In all sections, there was a clear contrast between those on stage who don't think we should

00:12:56.340 be fighting climate change, and those of us who do.

00:12:59.560 And again, we are the only party with a clear plan to fight climate change.

00:13:04.600 Oh, that's embarrassing.

00:13:06.560 That was a huge moment.

00:13:08.500 Last I checked, that's received half a million views on Twitter alone, that little video clip.

00:13:14.140 It was the most gripping exchange of the night.

00:13:16.180 Trudeau looked evasive.

00:13:17.100 He looked guilty as hell. 1.00

00:13:18.380 He looked sort of stupid, I think. 1.00

00:13:20.480 The fact that there was a supplementary question really pointed out how evasive he was. 1.00

00:13:24.500 Now, other journalists around Kean were clicking and clucking.

00:13:27.700 Oh, oh, oh.

00:13:28.580 You know that sound.

00:13:29.580 Oh, ah.

00:13:30.860 They had more important questions for Trudeau.

00:13:33.520 I mean, come on.

00:13:35.060 Before Kean was ordered in there by some judge, it was a little bit more like this.

00:13:41.260 The one that the entire country wants to know.

00:13:44.640 What shampoo do you use?

00:13:47.480 What a disappointing answer this is going to be.

00:13:50.040 Whatever happens to be hanging around at the time.

00:13:54.500 Yeah.

00:13:55.400 That was in 2015.

00:13:57.280 But what's the excuse for Rosemary Barton's famous list of first date questions? 0.99

00:14:04.060 Last book you've read or the book you're reading?

00:14:07.980 The just finished The Patch, which was Chris Turner's history of the oil patch.

00:14:17.980 Um, but I'm also about to start the new, uh, Ken Follett with, uh, the third, third book

00:14:25.360 that is, uh, the sequel to, um, Pillars of the Earth.

00:14:29.480 That's your, your nerdy side.

00:14:30.660 That, no, that's, that's my, uh.

00:14:33.360 Your sci-fi nerdy side.

00:14:34.500 No, no, it's not, it's not sci-fi.

00:14:35.560 Uh, it's, it's just a, a, a sweeping historical epic, I'm sure, but I haven't started it yet,

00:14:39.940 so, uh.

00:14:40.360 What, uh, kind of music are you listening to right now?

00:14:43.560 If you have time.

00:14:44.380 Or podcasts.

00:14:45.340 Podcasts?

00:14:45.800 No, I don't, I, I've tried, I, I run regularly and I've tried to, uh, uh, tried to do the

00:14:51.060 podcast thing, but it hasn't really, uh, it doesn't really say, I don't like people talking

00:14:54.780 in my ears when I'm trying to run.

00:14:56.100 I like to, like to sort of vibe out.

00:14:58.060 Um, he's not going to date you, Rosemary.

00:15:02.920 Actually, I shouldn't say that, should I?

00:15:04.640 I don't know that for a fact.

00:15:06.060 There's a lot of, there's a lot of rumors and gossip out there, no.

00:15:09.340 Actually, I take that back completely.

00:15:10.840 Rosemary, you're on the right track, but I don't think he's the small talk type.

00:15:15.300 Just, just a guess.

00:15:17.220 Um, yeah, so Kian, why are you asking tough questions and why are you being so mean?

00:15:22.840 Um, that video by Kian was picked up across the United States because Trudeau is such 0.98

00:15:27.720 a fool in the eyes of the world these days. 1.00

00:15:30.460 And that, the fact that foreigners were seeing how stupid Trudeau was, that made Gerald Butts 1.00

00:15:36.440 mad. 1.00

00:15:38.120 He went into some weird conspiracy theory saying that we're part of some global conspiracy.

00:15:45.580 He called us alt-right, which is pretty weird to say about a Jew like me.

00:15:48.520 Alt-right is, um, it typically means anti-Semitic.

00:15:52.200 I'm obviously not, but sometimes Jews are accused of being globalists, you know, not

00:15:56.700 loyal to their countries, part of an international conspiracy.

00:16:00.320 Maybe that's the insult Butts was going for there. 1.00

00:16:02.180 I'm not quite sure that I'm a disloyal Jew, part of some international thing.

00:16:06.120 I don't know.

00:16:06.980 He sounded a little unhinged, I think.

00:16:08.960 I think anyone who knows me knows I'm very pro-Canada.

00:16:12.320 We are, all of us here at the Rebel, whether you're Jewish or Gentile, whatever religion.

00:16:16.980 Um, we're very Canada first.

00:16:18.160 We're very anti-UN, very anti-globalist.

00:16:19.800 We're very pro-borders.

00:16:21.880 It's weird for Gerald Butts to imply that we're somehow not Canadian.

00:16:25.100 My family homesteaded in Alberta in 1903.

00:16:28.660 I think it was an anti-Jewish jibe.

00:16:31.020 Butts does that a lot. 1.00

00:16:32.360 But I think it's proof that that question by Kian really, really stung.

00:16:38.620 Anyways, who cares about Gerald Butts?

00:16:40.880 Kian had one more set of questions, this time for Maxime Bernier.

00:16:44.880 Hi, Kian Bextie, Rebel News, right here.

00:16:49.520 My question revolves around journalism in Canada.

00:16:52.940 Three journalists came to this debate tonight, but they weren't going to be let in, myself included.

00:16:58.440 We had to apply for an emergency court injunction to be allowed to cover the one English debate that our prime minister took part in.

00:17:05.460 What does that say about the state of journalism in Canada and the contempt that the prime minister currently has for journalists?

00:17:12.360 It's a shame, you know, we're a free democracy.

00:17:16.180 We believe in freedom.

00:17:17.900 And it's too bad that what happened right now, it's the same thing for me on the stage.

00:17:24.380 You know, Mr. Sink said that I didn't have my place over there because of what I'm saying about immigration.

00:17:31.260 But actually, you know, I'm a voice for the big majority of Canadians that want fewer immigrants.

00:17:37.460 And the fact that some people doesn't want us to debate and some people don't want you also to be here, it's not a Canadian way.

00:17:48.360 And I hope that you'll be able to be treated like a journalist.

00:17:53.420 Thank you. I appreciate that.

00:17:55.540 And my follow-up revolves around what you were saying.

00:17:57.680 Six percent of Canadians want higher immigration.

00:18:00.760 That's what the data says.

00:18:01.880 Yeah.

00:18:02.180 Do you think that the other leaders just think that Canadians need to take some tough medicine or do they just not believe the data?

00:18:09.720 Well, first of all, I think that they don't want to agree with Canadians. 0.99

00:18:13.180 I think they don't want to do that debate.

00:18:15.240 You saw that on stage.

00:18:16.480 You know, they were all against me on that.

00:18:20.640 But actually, that's a position that it is in line with Canadians.

00:18:25.780 But the most important also, if you want to preserve that country, if you want that country to be like that in 25 years, that's the time to have the discussion.

00:18:34.860 And I'm very proud that I was able to have the discussion.

00:18:37.740 I don't know if you're counting, but I think that's a total of six questions for Keehan, six lottery wins, as the judge might say.

00:18:46.600 And here's our friend Andrew Lawton, who was also there with us in court, too.

00:18:50.880 He got a question off to Justin Trudeau also.

00:18:54.460 Good evening, Prime Minister.

00:18:55.760 Andrew Lawton from True North.

00:18:57.320 This afternoon, a federal court judge ruled that I had a right to be here to cover this debate as a journalist, despite opposition from your attorney general.

00:19:05.620 Well, this comes after two weeks of me being kicked out of or not allowed into your campaign rallies.

00:19:11.240 The Conservatives have criticized you for being not as advertised.

00:19:14.980 You've advertised yourself as a champion of a press freedom.

00:19:17.900 Will you take a stand right now, sir, as the leader of the Liberal Party and allow me to cover your campaign like every other journalist?

00:19:23.220 We are a party and we are a country that respects journalistic rights and respects the freedom of the press.

00:19:28.840 We will continue to.

00:19:29.900 So is that a yes, sir?

00:19:31.000 We are a party and a country that respects the hard work and the freedom of the press.

00:19:35.040 We will continue to.

00:19:36.140 Then what time is your plane leaving tomorrow, sir?

00:19:40.040 I don't think Trudeau looks good there. 0.96

00:19:42.480 I mean, he's very disciplined in that he's not answering, but I think he looks sort of weird and cowardly.

00:19:48.240 I love the fact that Andrew, just like Keane, was allowed a follow-up.

00:19:53.220 Now, as you know, Trudeau has done interviews with Andrew before.

00:19:59.080 And we had a radio show.

00:20:00.340 I don't know why Trudeau is so scared now.

00:20:02.740 Andrew's a sort of price on carbon pollution.

00:20:04.020 Andrew's a pretty friendly guy.

00:20:05.520 I don't think Trudeau's looking good here.

00:20:07.840 So if you're counting, that's eight questions now from Andrew and Keane, two journalists who had just hours earlier been banned by this Liberal Debate Commission.

00:20:18.740 That's pretty cool.

00:20:20.060 Well, that's quite a turnaround in just a few hours.

00:20:21.760 Now, I loved the freakout online by all the left-wingers who were shocked that the rebel was even allowed in.

00:20:30.880 So I'm not talking about people who just didn't like Keane and Andrew, but by those who didn't want them to be in at all.

00:20:37.120 I like this one.

00:20:37.920 Look at this.

00:20:38.340 This is a hardcore left-wing group called North 99.

00:20:40.800 When you realize True North and Rebel Media asked eight questions, rawr, they're steaming mad.

00:20:47.020 That made me feel pretty good.

00:20:48.760 And really, there were three kinds of journalists there last night.

00:20:53.320 There were the bought-and-paid-for journalists, like my former colleague, David Aiken, who said that, look, Andrew Lawton was making too much of a fuss,

00:21:00.080 and it was all symbolic, and really, what a weird hill to die on.

00:21:04.080 Why not ask a real question, Andrew?

00:21:07.840 Huh.

00:21:08.980 Seriously, a journalist was saying free speech and not letting the government determine who gets to come to national debates?

00:21:15.860 David Aiken was saying that's all a waste of time.

00:21:18.060 That's not a real question.

00:21:19.680 I think that's embarrassing on David Aiken.

00:21:21.420 But then again, he's a proud, paid-up member of Unifor, the union that's campaigning against the conservatives right now.

00:21:28.540 So that's the first kind of journalist who was there last night, the rented-out kind,

00:21:32.280 and the kind that Trudeau was more than happy to accredit.

00:21:36.420 Then there were a small handful of journalists who were forbidden entry.

00:21:39.680 I learned in federal court yesterday that I think there were three others who were banned.

00:21:44.540 Now, we didn't hear their names yesterday, but besides Kean Bexley, David Menzies, and Andrew Lawton,

00:21:49.800 there were three more who were banned.

00:21:51.420 I wonder who and if they were on Trudeau's enemies list, too.

00:21:54.240 I bet they were.

00:21:56.220 So there were about 250 journalists that Trudeau personally approved, most of them on Trudeau's payroll.

00:22:00.980 There were three journalists who were banned and who would be kept out by police like we were last time if they tried to present.

00:22:09.740 And then there were three journalists who were so accredited that, as you can see here,

00:22:15.900 a judge of the federal court himself signed their names, that they were allowed to report because, well,

00:22:25.960 they were free men, and Canada is still a free country.

00:22:30.660 All in all, a huge night for Rebel News and for our viewers and for Canada and for freedom.

00:22:37.440 Say, I got the final bill from our lawyers today.

00:22:40.260 They worked on Friday when I retained them.

00:22:42.920 They worked all weekend.

00:22:44.100 And then, of course, they were in court with me all day on Monday.

00:22:47.280 There were two lawyers and their assistants.

00:22:48.740 I sent them a $10,000 deposit on Friday when I hired them, a retainer.

00:22:55.020 I got the rest of their bill today, another $8,000 on top of the $10,000.

00:22:58.960 If you can help us out with that, please do.

00:23:01.060 Please go to letusreport.com.

00:23:04.140 We could use the help.

00:23:05.800 But I have to tell you, if it's only $18,000 to fight for freedom, that's pretty cheap.

00:23:10.720 One last thing, and we'll interview Kean in a moment.

00:23:13.280 We won the battle, the one that led us in last night and into the French language debate

00:23:18.000 on Thursday night, too.

00:23:19.500 But there's a bigger war coming.

00:23:21.080 We have applied for a judge to review the decision made by the Debates Commission, as

00:23:25.860 in to go through it meticulously, not just to give us a quick emergency injunction to

00:23:30.160 get us into the debates, because that moment would be lost.

00:23:33.120 That's all yesterday was.

00:23:35.080 Did we have enough of a case for a judicial review of this entire decision that a judge

00:23:39.800 could make a hasty, temporary decision to let us in the debates, because if we missed

00:23:45.360 them, we'd never get that moment back?

00:23:46.640 That judge yesterday said yes to the emergency injunction.

00:23:51.220 But the actual hearing of our appeal is still to come.

00:23:55.200 That is the big fight.

00:23:57.780 That's the fight where we'll get all the disclosure, where we'll see all the collusion between Trudeau

00:24:03.180 and his rented journalists, where we'll see the collusion between Trudeau's independent

00:24:08.260 debates commission, and his own campaign.

00:24:11.720 That's the fight that's still looming.

00:24:13.320 It's going to cost a lot more than $10,000 or $18,000, but it's going to be an even bigger

00:24:18.760 and more revealing victory.

00:24:22.080 Don't you think?

00:24:23.960 Stay with us.

00:24:24.940 Ian is Nick.

00:24:25.600 And joining us now live from Pearson International Airport as he runs to the next campaign event

00:24:45.340 is the man of the hour, Kian Bexte.

00:24:48.160 Kian, great to see you.

00:24:49.380 Congratulations on a great day and a great night.

00:24:51.760 Thank you so much, Ezra.

00:24:54.040 It was a spectacular night last night.

00:24:56.860 I have never had so much more fun than I did when I was able to ask Trudeau a question.

00:25:02.060 His response was a bit predictable.

00:25:04.420 It wasn't really a response.

00:25:05.860 But, I mean, I've been flying across this country dozens of flights.

00:25:09.780 We fought a court case.

00:25:11.560 And finally, we were able to ask Trudeau one question.

00:25:14.280 That's all we wanted to do.

00:25:15.640 It doesn't seem like in a first-world country we should have to pull so many strings to be able

00:25:21.040 to ask the leader of our nation just a simple question.

00:25:23.700 But here we are.

00:25:25.660 Yesterday morning, you were with me at the federal court.

00:25:28.380 You had to then fly to Ottawa in the hopes that the judge would let you in.

00:25:33.340 I was in the courtroom for the whole hearing.

00:25:36.380 The judge said, even if you get in, it's like a lottery.

00:25:40.340 Would you get a chance to ask a question?

00:25:41.980 He was skeptical, but I guess you won the lottery, and so did Andrew Lawton of True North.

00:25:48.460 You both had questions.

00:25:50.480 Here, let me just play my favorite question of the night, where you put yours to Trudeau.

00:25:56.040 By the way, last I checked on Twitter, this had almost half a million views.

00:26:01.100 By the time this goes to air tonight, it'll probably be close to a million.

00:26:04.180 I actually think this was the most viewed moment in the entire debate.

00:26:11.660 Here, let's take a look.

00:26:13.360 Hi, Mr. Trudeau.

00:26:14.200 Since your multiple use of blackface became an international scandal,

00:26:18.560 Canada's international reputation has been irreparably harmed.

00:26:23.160 Have you reached out to any African leaders or any leaders from the Middle East to apologize for your conduct?

00:26:28.280 Canada will continue to engage in a positive, constructive way around the world,

00:26:33.400 standing up for human rights, engaging with leaders right around the world,

00:26:38.140 because we know that promoting our values and prosperity for everyone around the world

00:26:44.320 is good for Canadians and creates better opportunities for everyone.

00:26:48.260 So that didn't answer the question at all.

00:26:50.020 Have you spoken to any African leaders or leaders from the Middle East to apologize for your personal conduct?

00:26:56.440 I have continued to engage with leaders around the world in a responsible way during an election campaign.

00:27:02.580 My focus is connecting with Canadians, as I was able to tonight.

00:27:06.040 And I was very pleased to see so many of the questions turned to the environment.

00:27:10.120 In all sections, there was a clear contrast between those on stage who don't think we should be fighting climate change

00:27:16.140 and those of us who do. And again, we are the only party with a clear plan to fight climate change.

00:27:22.740 You know, you're so right. He said nothing. In fact, it was a weird segue to global warming or whatever.

00:27:29.680 But I think the fact that you had a follow-up question just really drove in the point

00:27:33.520 that he doesn't have an answer, he can't answer, he won't answer, and it's pitiful.

00:27:37.580 Yeah, we wanted to ask more follow-ups, and it was a little bit unfair.

00:27:43.000 The debate commission was selecting who they would favor.

00:27:46.900 I'll give you an example. There was a CBC journalist that was ahead of us talking to Elizabeth May,

00:27:52.580 and they allowed actual back and forth.

00:27:55.320 They said they were only allowing a question and a follow-up, but in reality,

00:27:58.580 they allowed a question and a follow-up and then some banter if you were a pre-approved journalist.

00:28:04.500 For Andrew Lawton and myself, we were immediately cut off, not just by the debate commission,

00:28:10.180 but by our colleagues, the other reporters at the other microphone.

00:28:14.300 For example, with Andrew Lawton, when he finished his question with Justin Trudeau,

00:28:18.400 he asked a follow-up. Justin Trudeau brushed him off.

00:28:21.100 Justin Ling, none other than him, butted in and started speaking over him frantically,

00:28:27.860 trying to make sure that Andrew Lawton was cut off. It was quite pathetic. 0.98

00:28:31.100 It is pathetic. You know, there were so many things I learned in the court hearing. 0.99

00:28:35.840 You were making your way to Ottawa. I stayed in the court in Toronto.

00:28:38.900 Three Al Jazeera journalists, for example, close to a dozen foreign nationals from Germany,

00:28:45.560 Switzerland, France, Vietnam. I got no beef with those people. 1.00

00:28:48.900 I got no beef with them being in the room.

00:28:50.660 It's just a little bit of chutzpah that they would try and keep you, a Canadian, out of the way.

00:28:55.780 You had the biggest accreditation of all.

00:29:00.180 No one less than a justice of the Federal Court of Canada gave you your press credentials last night.

00:29:05.960 How were you received by the media party journalists, the bailout journalists,

00:29:10.420 the uniform journalists who surely didn't want you in?

00:29:13.700 A lot of snide looks. Mercedes from Global News, she said that we weren't accredited,

00:29:22.600 we didn't even fight a court battle, and we were controversial.

00:29:26.420 That was her takeaway from it.

00:29:28.400 She since has apologized because now she recognizes that she was wrong.

00:29:32.140 But in the table of journalists that were there, well, it was actually a huge room.

00:29:37.620 Andrew Lawton did get some friendly hugs from some conservative staffers.

00:29:43.140 But overall, we were not welcome there, and that was abundantly clear.

00:29:47.800 Isn't that interesting?

00:29:49.020 I saw some snippy comments even by my former colleague, David Akin, who said,

00:29:53.220 oh, this was just a symbolic victory.

00:29:55.180 Why would you even do that?

00:29:56.780 I don't think it was symbolic at all.

00:29:59.120 The police who were barring you from these events, that was not a symbolic act on their part.

00:30:03.920 It was a brutal act of politicized policing that took a federal court judge to push back on.

00:30:11.840 I have to say it was great.

00:30:13.600 Go ahead.

00:30:14.620 Go ahead.

00:30:15.120 That's spoken like a journalist who has never been shut out of his trade by police officers and political elites.

00:30:22.460 Yeah.

00:30:22.740 That's my take on it.

00:30:23.820 And I know David pretty well.

00:30:25.280 And at Sun News Network, he was always the most reasonable, the most modern.

00:30:28.960 That's fine.

00:30:29.540 Someone's got to be, I suppose.

00:30:30.680 But you're never going to be locked out in an event by asking a conventional question that doesn't get anyone's hackles up.

00:30:39.020 You'll be everyone's best friend, but that's a different job description than being an effective journalist.

00:30:44.380 I noticed that your question of Trudeau got some pickup by U.S. media.

00:30:49.720 Why do you think that is?

00:30:50.840 I mean, I think a lot of conservatives in the U.S. are a little bit sick of Trudeau's moral preening.

00:30:54.700 I also think that blackface has a special meaning in the U.S. where they have the legacy of slavery, Jim Crow and the minstrel shows. 0.61

00:31:02.580 But why do you think it got so much coverage in the U.S.?

00:31:06.800 Your question.

00:31:08.400 You're right about that.

00:31:09.740 And that's what I was going to say.

00:31:10.720 There is that history of blackface in the United States. 0.98

00:31:12.920 And as I like to say, Justin Trudeau, in doing what he did, putting on black and brownface, black knees, black arms, black hands, black tongue, he joined members of the KKK and other racists in the United States who do this as a pastime, as a joke, to belittle people of a different background and ethnicity.

00:31:32.460 Justin Trudeau joined members of the KKK and that line really resonates with Americans.

00:31:38.200 This, like you said, it was picked up by American media.

00:31:41.180 None other than Breitbart actually just shared the transcript.

00:31:45.420 They just directly took the words and translated them to text and posted it.

00:31:50.880 That's my favorite.

00:31:51.800 That's my favorite because every Canadian outlet that has bothered to talk about us just sort of paraphrases what we said and then comments and says, oh, but this was a controversial outlet.

00:32:03.740 The rebels controversial.

00:32:05.320 We shouldn't pay much attention to them.

00:32:07.580 Canada land is just in like tying themselves into pretzels, trying to figure out how we got in.

00:32:12.540 It's I'm just going to I'm just going to enjoy the victory for now.

00:32:16.740 I'm very excited for Thursday when we'll be at the French debate and we can do this all over.

00:32:22.080 Yeah, that's great.

00:32:22.900 Well, I see you're in the airport.

00:32:24.000 I think that your flight is boarding.

00:32:26.000 If you're not tipping anyone off and giving anything away, like we don't want to remove the element of surprise.

00:32:31.140 Can you give in fact, maybe I shouldn't ask you where you're going on the air because we don't want any MPs or candidates to know.

00:32:37.660 So we'll just look forward to your next video and that'll tell the tale.

00:32:42.100 Have a safe journey, Kian.

00:32:43.200 Keep up the fight.

00:32:43.860 There's, I guess, just less than two weeks to go.

00:32:46.440 Keep up on sprinting.

00:32:47.840 When we're done, you can take a break on October 22nd.

00:32:51.160 Until then, keep running.

00:32:52.160 OK, thanks, Ezra.

00:32:54.020 Take care.

00:32:54.460 All right.

00:32:54.800 There you have a key in Bextie who went from being banned in the morning persona non grata, as they would say,

00:33:02.520 to being commanded into the event by a judge all in the course of one day and asking the question of the night, at least judging by viewer response.

00:33:14.300 Stay with us.

00:33:15.240 More ahead on the rebel.

00:33:15.860 Hey, welcome back on my show yesterday that I sort of cobbled together from downtown about our court battle.

00:33:31.520 Jan writes, a great day for Rebel News and True North and for Canada.

00:33:35.840 When the judge said he didn't usually watch the debates, but was going to watch the debate tonight, I knew you had won.

00:33:40.820 Yeah, that's right.

00:33:42.460 And won't that judge have been surprised because he said, oh, getting a question in the scrum is like winning a lottery.

00:33:48.660 Well, guess what?

00:33:49.200 Well, I guess we struck gold eight times because Kian asked three couples of questions and Andrew had one couple of questions.

00:34:00.120 I'll take it all together.

00:34:02.040 The victory was winning the court case and it saved us from a dangerous precedent being set.

00:34:07.160 The fact that Rebel News and True North had to get a court injunction to attend is outrageous.

00:34:11.700 Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.

00:34:13.380 We were alone in there, too.

00:34:14.840 I mean, there was actually a few smarmy anti-rebel journalists who were there to sort of laugh if we lost.

00:34:20.460 It was so weird that we were considered weird.

00:34:23.720 It used to be normal to go to court for free speech.

00:34:27.480 In the past, that place would have been packed with every media outlet in town in solidarity because they would say we'd better, you know, as my old friend John O'Sullivan used to say,

00:34:38.500 better to fight in the first ditch than the last.

00:34:41.020 So it used to be until about five, ten years ago that whenever one media company had its liberties at risk, no matter the case, no matter the outlet, all the others attended because they knew we'd better stop this right now.

00:34:54.580 Because if a precedent is set for the globe, it'll affect us at the star.

00:34:58.400 If a precedent is set at CTV, it'll affect us at CBC.

00:35:02.200 So they took a fight every battle approach.

00:35:04.680 There was no one with us in court yesterday.

00:35:08.600 That's the sad part.

00:35:11.020 Maynard writes, congratulations for standing up for freedom in the Canadian press.

00:35:16.360 Shameful to the mainstream media and the civil liberties groups for ignoring the important case against the federal government.

00:35:20.840 This win is beneficial to the preservation of Canadian democracy.

00:35:24.860 Yeah, well, I mean, listen, I remember it wasn't that long ago.

00:35:28.760 It was just on Friday when I hired our lawyer.

00:35:30.920 And he said, Ezra, I want to tell you we're probably going to lose.

00:35:33.400 I just want to lower your expectations.

00:35:35.400 That'll be ten grand up front.

00:35:37.320 Oh, I mean, it's almost like you didn't want me to hire him.

00:35:39.360 He said, ten grand retainer, you're going to lose.

00:35:42.320 Well, you know how to win a guy's heart, don't you?

00:35:44.700 I said, sign me up.

00:35:46.160 And wouldn't you know it, we won.

00:35:47.540 But it was an uphill battle because it's tough to get an injunction on no notice.

00:35:52.460 I mean, remember, the judge didn't even know we were suing until, I guess, he showed up at work that morning because the whole thing happened over the weekend.

00:36:00.600 So, judge number one, the deputy chief judge, had to find a judge that was free.

00:36:07.180 That judge had to be found.

00:36:08.580 Can you do this case on an emergency basis?

00:36:10.400 Okay.

00:36:11.060 Then he had to sit down and read both sides.

00:36:15.100 I mean, we filed maybe 50 pages.

00:36:19.360 And the government, remember, they had five government lawyers for the debates commission and the attorney general himself.

00:36:25.480 I think they filed two or three hundred pages.

00:36:28.500 So, the judge hears about this for the first time in the morning, has to sit down, read through everything, and then he has the hearing from 3 to 4.30.

00:36:36.740 That was a busy day.

00:36:38.340 That was an exciting day for the judge, too, if I may say.

00:36:40.540 And he said he was interested enough to watch the debate.

00:36:43.140 I bet he chuckled when he saw Kian and Andrew on TV, don't you?

00:36:49.260 Anyways, you know, I said to the law, I'll tell you this, let me close on this.

00:36:52.520 I said to all our lawyers, there was the lawyer for True North.

00:36:56.260 She was great.

00:36:57.380 We had two lawyers there.

00:36:58.460 They were great.

00:36:59.820 And I just, I was overcome.

00:37:01.600 And Candace Malcolm was there.

00:37:02.760 And I said to them, that when I look back on my life, that win for freedom to fight back against the cartel will be one of the highlights of my public life.

00:37:18.700 And I know that sounds a little dramatic, and maybe with the passage of time, I won't feel that way.

00:37:23.840 I've done a lot of things in my life.

00:37:25.420 Some of them were important in the moment, but flashed in the pan.

00:37:28.740 Others were more symbolic, like publishing the Danish cartoons of Mohammed, things like that.

00:37:33.680 But actually going to court, fighting an uphill battle, taking it to the man, being there alone other than True North,

00:37:40.360 and winning and breaking down the walls of censorship and pushing for freedom and then getting our journalists in and asking the questions,

00:37:48.560 I do believe that that is one of the best things I have ever done in my public life.

00:37:56.140 And I guess I would say to you, our viewers who paid for the bills, and I need your help to pay the new $8,000 invoice,

00:38:05.520 I would say to you, thank you.

00:38:07.660 And if you chipped in, maybe you too can feel how I feel.

00:38:13.100 If you have some paternity in this lawsuit, if you chip in $50 or $100 or $5, whatever,

00:38:18.660 that you too were part of a moment that was so important,

00:38:22.140 a counter-strike against the censors and the deplatformers.

00:38:25.800 That's how I feel.

00:38:26.640 I still feel great 24 hours later.

00:38:29.560 All right, folks, that's the show.

00:38:30.940 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night.

00:38:35.400 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:38:36.340 You know, thank you.

00:38:50.120 And we've we've got a lot of reactionary things.

00:38:50.140 And we'll see you soon.

00:38:51.940 I'm glad you guys.

00:38:52.380 Thank you.

00:38:52.640 I'm glad you guys are watching.

Rebel News Podcast - October 09, 2019

Rebel News vs Trudeau at Leaders Debate

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