Rebel News Podcast - March 13, 2025


REBEL ROUNDUP ｜ Canadian leaders head to US, Carney's cabinet shuffle, G7 ministers in Quebec


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Trump tweets a new 25% tariff on Canadian steel and aluminum, and Ontario Premier Doug Ford responds with a 25% hike on U.S. What does that mean for Canada and the rest of the country? What does it mean for the economy? And is this a good or bad thing? Today's co-hosts Sheila Gunn-Reed and Tamara Ugolini discuss it all.

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00:00:30.000 Hey, good morning, good afternoon, everybody.
00:00:40.420 No, I think it's afternoon everywhere now.
00:00:42.180 No, it's still morning in BC.
00:00:44.440 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and I'm the host of our news and opinion live show, Rebel Roundup.
00:00:50.980 I'm joined by a rotating cast of co-hosts.
00:00:54.180 Today is my friend and colleague, Tamara Ugolini.
00:00:56.740 Tamara, how's it going?
00:00:58.460 Hey, Sheila.
00:00:59.000 Pretty good, thanks.
00:00:59.700 How are you?
00:01:01.580 We're getting hit with a big snowstorm today, like delayed flights kind of snowstorm.
00:01:07.580 So we had like a taste of spring, just enough to make this snowstorm really hurt right now.
00:01:13.760 The fake spring that we have in Canada.
00:01:15.600 Yeah.
00:01:15.980 Yeah.
00:01:16.480 Yeah, we always have a fake spring.
00:01:18.060 It's one that just makes your hopes get up, and then they get dashed right back into oblivion.
00:01:26.660 We've got a ton of things to talk about today.
00:01:29.540 Anyway, tariff mania is unpredictable.
00:01:33.800 Things change oftentimes while we're on the show.
00:01:36.960 Like Doug Ford's going to cut off electricity to the United States, and then by the end of the show, it's like, no, Doug's not.
00:01:42.960 He had a mean phone call, so now he's not.
00:01:45.760 So why don't you tell us, Tamara, I'll let you do that.
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00:02:44.940 And as Sheila mentioned, we have a ton of things to talk about today, including this never-ending, I'm calling it a political ping pong, a tariff ping pong,
00:02:55.060 where it's like, I'm going to serve you with this 25% hike on whatever, and then retaliatory measures are taken.
00:03:02.240 And as we've seen with Ontario Premier Doug Ford in recent days, as soon as Trump so much as posts on social media, in this particular instance,
00:03:12.440 he posted on Truth Social with an even more aggressive retaliatory measure onto Canadian, I think it was steel and iron, was it?
00:03:23.700 Aluminum.
00:03:24.940 And so, immediately, it wasn't even that phone call yet by the time that Ford already had backpedaled on his tariff threat on U.S. electricity heading into the United States.
00:03:36.900 And so, we have Trump really doubling down here.
00:03:40.920 And Ford, unfortunately, looking pretty weak, I would say.
00:03:46.380 It took less than a day to get him to flip-flop, as he's been so notoriously coined now, flip-flop Ford.
00:03:53.700 And so, there we were just showing the post where, I think that was the post where Trump threatened more aggressive measures onto Ontario and Canada tariffs.
00:04:05.200 And then, of course, Ford immediately backpedaled and flip-flopped.
00:04:08.760 And we'll get into some of the more kind of, like, detailed rigmarole that's happened in the last few days.
00:04:15.940 And, I mean, we've discussed this on the other live streams.
00:04:19.760 But Trump is really coming out and he's saying here, we have this post here from Truth Social,
00:04:26.100 where he says that Canada needs America.
00:04:30.760 America does not need Canada.
00:04:33.940 And so, this is really, I mean, I don't know why anyone is really surprised.
00:04:38.660 Because Trump campaigned on an America-first model.
00:04:43.180 And so, he's quite literally just following through on his campaign promises.
00:04:47.620 He wants to bring everything back into the U.S. for manufacturing and otherwise.
00:04:51.380 And he's taking pretty aggressive steps to try to do that.
00:04:57.200 Well, and it shows how the Liberal government, and I will include Doug Ford in that, are just reactive.
00:05:04.940 They don't have a plan to deal with this.
00:05:06.520 They have no strategy to deal with Trump.
00:05:09.960 They're just like, okay, he did something, we have to do something now.
00:05:12.840 And then by three hours later, 90 minutes later, it can quickly change.
00:05:18.260 And Canadians are caught in the middle.
00:05:20.380 Like, Canadians who have any sort of money invested in stocks don't know what they're supposed to do from day to day.
00:05:27.480 If you're in one of these affected industries, by which I mean almost all of them,
00:05:32.800 you don't know what's going to happen with your job from day to day.
00:05:36.200 And there are certain industries Team Canada seems to care about in these trade and tariff wars.
00:05:42.860 And certain industries Team Canada thinks are just perfectly sacrificial.
00:05:46.940 I'll point out canola.
00:05:50.120 Nobody is talking about banning the dollar store right now and not buying Chinese-made products.
00:05:57.260 But China just slapped 100% tariff on Canadian canola.
00:06:02.020 And canola, whatever you think about seed oils, and boy, I sure think a few things about it.
00:06:06.200 It's a major Canadian export.
00:06:08.080 It is actually Canada's largest agricultural export.
00:06:11.880 The largest producing provinces, as we talked yesterday on the show, Alberta and Saskatchewan.
00:06:16.380 I think Saskatchewan produces 50% of the nation's canola.
00:06:20.100 Alberta produces a little over 30%.
00:06:23.220 It's billions and billions, I think over $20 billion into the Canadian GDP.
00:06:29.380 That's all going to evaporate.
00:06:31.680 Why?
00:06:31.900 Because Justin Trudeau slapped a tariff on Chinese-made electric vehicles because he was trying to protect the foreign-owned electric vehicle plants that he had heavily subsidized in Ontario and Quebec.
00:06:47.660 And Team Canada is not talking about that.
00:06:49.200 They're only talking about the steel workers right now.
00:06:51.300 And I've done some digging on that, too, which we'll talk about in a little bit.
00:06:56.920 But as Tamara said, Trump said he would do this.
00:07:01.720 And the Canadian government is just only reacting in a frenzy.
00:07:05.220 They have no plan whatsoever.
00:07:06.480 And you can see that every single day.
00:07:08.600 Yeah, and I mean, the other thing, too, is that we don't even have a functioning federal government.
00:07:15.140 This is a federal government issue, first and foremost.
00:07:17.520 Like, these negotiations should be happening on the federal level.
00:07:22.560 You know, the provinces obviously have a say, and they should be incorporated and included in these negotiations.
00:07:27.920 But ultimately, it's up to the federal government to undertake this work.
00:07:33.100 And we don't have one right now.
00:07:34.660 No.
00:07:35.060 We have a completely prorogued parliament.
00:07:37.480 We have a selected by a very few Liberal Party member prime minister being inaugurated tomorrow, Mark Carney.
00:07:45.320 And we have no one here to represent Canadians that they've actually voted for en masse to do this very important negotiation work.
00:07:55.160 So this is pretty much a political dumpster fire in Canada.
00:08:00.580 And you have Doug Ford trying to kind of, like, puff up his chest and seem like he has leverage.
00:08:06.720 And then embarrassingly have to backpedal within a day.
00:08:09.500 Not even a day.
00:08:10.380 I think it was, like, 12 hours.
00:08:11.560 But we, I'm learning, and I think a lot of Canadians, maybe even Americans as well, are learning as this process unfolds and as it continues and the ping pong happens back and forth, is that the U.S. has actually faced very aggressive tariffs from Canada for a long time.
00:08:31.620 And Trump is really trying to highlight that.
00:08:33.640 And we have a clip here to share where Trump says basically that the U.S. has been ripped off for years with tariffs on various goods.
00:08:43.040 No, I'm not.
00:08:43.960 Look, we've been ripped off for years and we're not going to be ripped off anymore.
00:08:47.360 No, I'm not going to bend at all.
00:08:48.980 Aluminum or steel or cars.
00:08:52.260 We're not going to bend.
00:08:53.220 We've been ripped off as a country for many, many years.
00:08:55.840 We've been subjected to costs that we shouldn't be subjected to.
00:09:02.000 In the case of Canada, we're spending $200 billion a year to subsidize Canada.
00:09:06.780 I love Canada.
00:09:07.660 I love the people of Canada.
00:09:08.960 I love, I have many friends in Canada.
00:09:11.840 The great one, Wayne Gretzky, the great, how good is Wayne Gretzky?
00:09:15.740 He's the great one.
00:09:16.900 But we have, I know many people from Canada that are good friends of mine.
00:09:21.700 But, you know, the United States can't subsidize a country for $200 billion a year.
00:09:28.840 We don't need their cars.
00:09:31.040 We don't need their energy.
00:09:32.220 We don't need their lumber.
00:09:34.160 We don't need anything that they, that they give.
00:09:38.060 We do it because we want to be helpful.
00:09:39.920 But it comes a point when you just can't do that.
00:09:42.740 You have to run your own country.
00:09:44.860 And to be honest with you, Canada only works as a state.
00:09:47.880 It doesn't, we don't need anything they have.
00:09:50.000 And as a state, it would be one of the great states anyway.
00:09:53.700 This would be the most incredible country visually.
00:09:56.960 If you look at a map, they do an artificial line right through it.
00:10:00.120 I want to just share that they don't need anything we have.
00:10:04.780 Meanwhile, we do export a substantial amount of electricity into three different-
00:10:09.140 Oil and gas.
00:10:09.900 Oil and gas as well, yes.
00:10:11.220 But if Ford were to follow through with his threat, and then the U.S. has to outsource
00:10:17.560 somewhere or else or become more energy independent, which I think is the end goal anyway, but this
00:10:23.280 could definitely expedite that process and give us less time to kind of figure it out and
00:10:28.340 sort out what we're going to do thereafter, then if the U.S. gets cut off and Ford follows
00:10:34.760 through with this really aggressive and egregious threat, then that just ends up hurting us in the
00:10:41.880 long term because now we've lost a major energy consumer and customer from our financial back
00:10:50.580 pocket.
00:10:52.300 You know, this is also a customer relationship.
00:10:55.460 And yes, it's, you know, larger economies at play, and I'm certainly not an economist.
00:11:00.380 But I think that, you know, I was always, whenever I worked in the service industry or in any sort of
00:11:05.980 job industry, you know, you're taught the customer is always right.
00:11:10.260 And, you know, maybe there's room for that not to be the case, but you certainly want to keep
00:11:14.300 your customers happy.
00:11:15.920 And what you're seeing here happening is that that, well, that certainly just isn't happening.
00:11:20.880 And I think you and Lees probably discussed it on previous live streams over the last few days,
00:11:26.440 but the White House press secretary, I think we posted it on March, I think it was from the
00:11:32.160 March 11th presser that they did.
00:11:33.880 I was actually shocked at how many tariffs, the percentage of tariffs that are placed on,
00:11:39.640 I was just going to say, American cheese and butter face a 300% tariff, you know, and there's
00:11:46.560 other tariffs from India, and Japan imposes a 700% tariff on rice, which to the US, which I thought
00:11:54.000 was also crazy.
00:11:55.520 Yeah, I wrote this up yesterday.
00:11:57.480 And there's a clip in there that we posted on YouTube of the press secretary going through,
00:12:02.420 she had a little chart, a tariff chart that she was sharing.
00:12:05.740 And so this is really just Trump holding true to his America first campaign platform,
00:12:11.180 in my view.
00:12:12.680 Yeah, I mean, a lot of that trade deficit, by the way, with the United States is oil and
00:12:17.300 gas.
00:12:17.620 Now, I think it's like $100 billion of the $200 billion trade deficit is oil and gas imports
00:12:24.900 from Canada, like 80% of that oil coming from Alberta.
00:12:29.100 Now, it is not a trade deficit.
00:12:30.680 If we are selling something to you at a substantially reduced market price, because we're forced into
00:12:37.900 what's called a monopoly, only having one customer for our product, thanks to Justin Trudeau.
00:12:43.620 So, you know, I get the strife with ag products, I get the strife with steel, but I don't understand
00:12:56.300 the oil and gas problem, because, I mean, they're getting it to us on the cheap.
00:13:03.160 And, you know, the second we get an export pipeline, that changes, because now all of a
00:13:08.180 sudden we have two customers, and we don't have to sell at a reduced market rate to the
00:13:12.800 Americans.
00:13:13.520 So I don't know, I think Trump should be careful what he wishes for there.
00:13:17.140 But again, he did.
00:13:19.280 He's not the prime minister of Canada.
00:13:21.380 He has no obligation to be nice to us.
00:13:23.620 Like, everybody seems to forget that.
00:13:25.660 His job is to make America better for the people who voted for him, and not just the
00:13:31.820 people who voted for him.
00:13:32.780 That's the liberal way of thinking.
00:13:34.080 We only, I'm only the governor of the people that voted for me.
00:13:39.880 His job is to make life better for all Americans, and his vision is to repatriate manufacturing 0.99
00:13:46.460 and industries to the United States.
00:13:48.900 Full stop.
00:13:50.020 Everybody knew what he was going to do.
00:13:51.600 Canada should have been ready, but we had our government cheering for Kamala Harris. 1.00
00:13:56.580 So here we are.
00:13:58.220 Well, and what it's really highlighting, for me at least, is how weak our leadership is
00:14:03.680 across the board in Canada.
00:14:06.200 You mean, we had Premier Danielle Smith from Alberta down there trying to take on the country's 1.00
00:14:12.600 negotiations because we don't have a federal government who's functioning and capable and
00:14:17.880 competent right now.
00:14:19.420 And so really, we need strong leadership here in Canada, similar to what you're seeing with
00:14:25.220 Donald Trump.
00:14:26.100 And we sadly just don't have that.
00:14:28.920 And that's paving the way for us to be bullied and have things done to Canada and the Canadian
00:14:36.060 people that maybe aren't justified or are unjust.
00:14:40.460 And so weak men create hard times.
00:14:44.880 And that's what Canada is in at this moment.
00:14:48.260 Exactly.
00:14:49.220 And I saw the Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnik, complain about this, saying, like, look, I would
00:14:54.640 much rather negotiate with a fully functioning Canadian government chosen by the people as
00:15:01.680 opposed to all the premiers negotiating individually.
00:15:07.180 Like, what a schizophrenic response we're having to this.
00:15:10.440 It's bizarre.
00:15:12.280 It's like negotiating with all these little tiny countries.
00:15:15.840 And if we are going to be forced to negotiate that way, then why are we a confederation at all?
00:15:21.000 Well, and as we have Mark Carney being implemented into the prime minister position, never elected, not even he's never been elected by anybody or voted by any and by any Canadian to hold a seat in the House or be a parliamentarian.
00:15:38.420 And here he is being inaugurated as of tomorrow to the highest position, political position in Canada.
00:15:46.720 So hopefully there's an election called immediately as soon as parliament resumes at the end of this month, because I think this is a complete affront to democracy and clearly shows that the Liberal Party of Canada just has no respect for the Canadian voters.
00:16:01.100 I mean, as we've seen the last few years, as they have maintained this coalition with the two fringe minority parties, the NDP and the Liberals, and now they've selected the next leader of the country who has never been elected by any actual Canadian resident.
00:16:18.960 Yeah, it's a, you know, it's a quirk of our parliamentary system that allows the party leader of the party that has the most seats in the House of Commons, regardless of whether or not the party leader holds a seat,
00:16:29.960 to be the prime minister, and we had this like for a very short time in Alberta, we had an unelected premier named Jim Prentice.
00:16:40.140 But very quickly after he became the leader of the party, he called an election.
00:16:44.880 Also, we weren't currently in an existential crisis.
00:16:48.300 So that makes the things a little bit different.
00:16:50.660 You know, parliament is so prorogued that it's dysfunctional.
00:16:54.400 And the Americans are threatening to annex us economically.
00:16:58.940 And we don't even have an elected prime minister right now.
00:17:03.360 It's crazy.
00:17:04.140 Political dumpster fire, as I said.
00:17:05.960 Completely.
00:17:06.880 And meanwhile, we're being threatened with these increasing tariffs.
00:17:11.600 Mark Carney has taken to X to say that he has a message for steel and aluminum workers.
00:17:18.280 They have his full support now and for the future.
00:17:24.180 We are going to build big things in Canada, he says.
00:17:27.040 And we need every one of you.
00:17:30.180 And it's funny because in the comments there, I see Desi Media and others are throwing to a clip of him from CTV News.
00:17:38.320 This is exactly the one.
00:17:39.980 Yeah.
00:17:40.320 Yeah.
00:17:40.660 Where he says that people aren't buying steel.
00:17:44.140 Yeah, he's like, what even is steel?
00:17:46.680 The skeleton of society.
00:17:48.680 But that's okay.
00:17:49.520 He doesn't think people want steel.
00:17:53.140 He doesn't know what people use it for.
00:17:54.780 Does he think we just go to the store, the grocery store, and buy steel?
00:17:58.320 Like, this is how out of touch he is.
00:18:01.700 But we'll show this full clip because he says he's against tariffs on steel, right?
00:18:07.620 Like, oh, I'm against Trump's tariffs on steel.
00:18:09.540 But he's talking about his own climate tariff on steel here.
00:18:11.920 Because what the big companies are producing, by and large, are not products that we are consuming.
00:18:20.900 There's some element of that.
00:18:22.380 But by and large, you know, a steel company, how much steel are you using these days, Todd?
00:18:27.020 I mean, not as much.
00:18:28.160 Not as much.
00:18:28.740 How much steel are you using up there?
00:18:34.660 A lot.
00:18:34.880 We have no idea.
00:18:35.500 He just has no idea.
00:18:38.260 I think Trump beat him to the tariffs and the taxes that he wanted to implement.
00:18:44.780 Oh, and he's gonna.
00:18:45.960 That's his solution for hiding the carbon tax is just move it upstream.
00:18:49.740 So when you're like, why the heck are housing prices going up?
00:18:52.800 Why are vehicle prices going up?
00:18:54.880 Why are my appliances too expensive?
00:18:56.840 It's because of the carbon tax that Carney wants to move off your power bill so you can't see it.
00:19:05.380 And then you won't be mad about it.
00:19:07.180 It'll just be like, why the heck is everything so expensive?
00:19:09.820 Because he's moving it upstream.
00:19:11.220 So then they just pass it along to the consumer along the way.
00:19:13.940 And then don't worry, the liberals will sell it back to you as though you get it all back every three to six months in a rebate, which we find out later.
00:19:24.480 And I mean, for anybody who has some ounce of critical thought knows that that isn't actually representative of the truth.
00:19:31.580 Meanwhile, so I guess Lutnick then, the Commerce Secretary, reached out to Ford to try to de-escalate this tension.
00:19:42.300 Ford referred to it as being given an olive branch.
00:19:46.640 And so they're headed down there.
00:19:48.720 He got swatted across his butt with an olive branch from Lutnick earlier this week.
00:19:55.520 Like, wasn't an olive branch?
00:19:57.260 It was more like a switch across his butt cheeks.
00:20:00.220 Let's watch this.
00:20:01.580 Sorry, go ahead.
00:20:02.080 Before we get into that, if all it takes is for Trump to post on Truth Social that he's going to up the tariffs and issue immediate aggressive retaliatory measures, if that's all it takes to get Ford to flip-flop, then how absolutely weak is your leadership?
00:20:19.560 I think that just highlights how weak Ford is and the fact that there's no plan.
00:20:25.300 Is this Lutnick talking about what he did to Trump?
00:20:28.400 I think it is.
00:20:29.080 Let's watch.
00:20:29.580 It is not chaotic.
00:20:33.080 And the only one who thinks it's chaotic is someone who's being silly.
00:20:36.760 He said reciprocal tariffs.
00:20:38.340 Nobody expected him to announce 50% tariffs this morning.
00:20:41.780 He needed to break some guy in Ontario who said he was going to tax American energy 25%.
00:20:49.480 The president of the United States in the White House says, oh, no, you won't, and breaks him.
00:20:56.660 Breaks him in what?
00:20:58.140 By a tweet and a truth.
00:21:00.620 And you think that's chaotic?
00:21:02.480 You know what I think that is?
00:21:03.740 I think that is the thank God we have a president who's taking care of us.
00:21:07.500 Because if you were in one of those states and you thought your energy prices were going to go up 25% and you said, where's the president?
00:21:13.960 And all of a sudden he came down like thunder to make that end?
00:21:18.780 You'd say, cool.
00:21:21.520 I'm glad that's the guy in the White House.
00:21:23.420 And that's what we've got.
00:21:25.540 Exactly.
00:21:26.500 Yeah.
00:21:27.020 And that's holding true to his campaign promise of putting America first.
00:21:32.260 And all it took was for Trump to post on Truth Social saying, nope, we're going to hit you back immediately.
00:21:37.780 And Ford backpedaled.
00:21:39.760 And he sounded, I think we have a clip here of, yeah, we have a clip.
00:21:43.980 Just before we move on, yeah, we've got Trump saying like, oh, he got an olive branch.
00:21:47.840 No, that didn't sound like you got an olive branch at all.
00:21:51.600 And they don't even respect Doug Ford enough to call him by his name.
00:21:55.720 The premier of Ontario, some guy in Ontario, that's how much they respect you, Doug Ford.
00:22:04.040 And you know what?
00:22:05.060 Wouldn't it be great?
00:22:06.060 Like, yes, as a Canadian, I don't like these tariffs.
00:22:09.140 I don't like tariffs.
00:22:10.160 I'm a free trade kind of person.
00:22:11.920 I think it is a real disaster that the largest trading partnership to ever exist on the face of the earth between two friends, that it has fallen apart this way.
00:22:29.280 I think it is just an absolute scandal and it falls squarely around Justin Trudeau's neck.
00:22:34.580 It really does.
00:22:35.880 I hate that it is this way.
00:22:37.700 I hope the Conservatives will be able to fix this.
00:22:41.020 I hope they temper their rhetoric so that they don't go in there poisoned in negotiations.
00:22:48.160 But, and as, like I said, as a Canadian, I don't, I don't like what Trump is doing to our economy.
00:22:54.220 Wouldn't it be great if we had leadership who cared about us the same way Trump seems to care about his people, that he'll do anything to help them?
00:23:01.760 And I love how Trump talks about us Canadians.
00:23:03.980 He says he cherishes us.
00:23:05.520 He says we're beautiful.
00:23:07.860 Trudeau calls us genocidal crazy people and fringe radicals and people with unacceptable viewpoints and opinions if we don't agree with him.
00:23:16.900 I feel a lot of love from Trump towards us.
00:23:19.360 I would really like it if our government had talked about us that way once.
00:23:24.180 Colonizers with no national identity. 1.00
00:23:26.480 Great.
00:23:26.880 Genocide errors.
00:23:28.360 Yeah.
00:23:28.720 And so, anyway, Premier Ford said that this, he calls this an olive branch and, you know, take that for what you will after hearing Lutnik speak yesterday.
00:23:38.000 But, I don't know, ahead of this clip here, Ford just sounds so deflated and defeated to me.
00:23:46.220 Let's have a listen.
00:23:47.500 Yeah.
00:23:47.820 There were some quotes from the inner circle of Trump, more or less declaring this a win yesterday.
00:23:53.920 So, what are your thoughts?
00:23:55.440 Is this a win for Trump or how do you back from that?
00:23:58.660 You know, they want to call it a win.
00:24:00.820 Whatever.
00:24:02.120 They're playing politics.
00:24:03.120 But, here and there, what happened yesterday, very clearly, Secretary Lutnik called me.
00:24:09.380 I didn't call him.
00:24:10.760 Put an olive branch up.
00:24:12.600 And only a foolish person would decline or hang up on someone and say, I'm not listening.
00:24:18.220 We said, well, that's fine.
00:24:20.280 We need a meeting and we need it right away.
00:24:23.300 He agreed.
00:24:23.900 He said, fly down tonight, fly down tomorrow or the next day.
00:24:26.240 We're bringing Minister LeBlanc with us and the ambassador to have that conversation, to sit down and see what their requirements are, what their needs are.
00:24:37.260 I always say, when you have your largest customer, you listen to your largest customer in business.
00:24:41.880 And we'll sit there and listen and make sure that we bring that information back and sit around the table.
00:24:50.080 It's the federal government that's leading this, not myself.
00:24:52.880 They're going to lead the negotiations.
00:24:56.080 We'll have a very loud voice in that conversation, along with all the other premiers.
00:25:02.660 So, you're managing expectations at this point.
00:25:05.640 At what point do you potentially bring it back to more surcharges and the other tools in your toolbox, as you say?
00:25:13.800 Well, we're seeing what's going to happen.
00:25:15.980 I know Dominic LeBlanc is out right now talking about the $29, $30 billion of retaliatory tariffs.
00:25:24.440 Our message down there tomorrow is, let's stop this.
00:25:28.120 It's going to hurt both economies.
00:25:30.700 It's American people that are going to get hurt. 0.99
00:25:32.940 Canadians are going to get hurt.
00:25:34.860 Yeah.
00:25:35.420 He says the feds are leading this, but who and where and how, because we don't have effective leadership on the federal level.
00:25:45.980 And then Ford is almost like kind of saying that it's a good thing that Lutnick called him.
00:25:51.840 I didn't call him, he says.
00:25:54.380 He called me.
00:25:55.140 But it's like, why wouldn't you call him, you know?
00:25:59.640 Why are you taking to these presser events and rhetoric online and escalating tensions and he posted this, so I'm going to post that.
00:26:08.760 This is so high school drama when you have real economies and lives at stake with how you are negotiating on this front.
00:26:17.980 And you're not just calling them up and saying, hey, can we have a conversation?
00:26:21.920 You're waiting for the other guy to reach out to you.
00:26:23.980 Like, this is such petty, dramatic nonsense that where are the adults in the room to say, you know what, let's go, let's face this, let's go head on and let's go toe to toe about how we're going to find some reasonable, tangible solutions on how we address this tariff war.
00:26:40.020 Because it's obviously not benefiting either of us, just hitting people back on social media and speaking to the media who then, you know, inflate and conflate the issue and make it even worse.
00:26:50.700 So the fact that Ford didn't take that first step to reach out to Lutnik or Trump and say, hey, what's going on here?
00:26:57.440 Can we have a meeting and try to negotiate a fair deal?
00:27:00.160 Right.
00:27:00.400 Instead, he's just sitting back and spewing rhetoric and threats out of his yin yang and then waits for them to reach out to him.
00:27:07.180 That, in addition to everything else we've already discussed, is textbook weak leadership and irresponsible leadership.
00:27:14.960 Yeah, he just admitted to an act now, think later strategy, which I don't think is the best strategy when dealing with the world's largest economy.
00:27:23.660 He seems like a man who has been absolutely tone checked, okay?
00:27:29.100 Like he is a man who just got in a world of trouble and I think they threatened him with something much worse than, okay, than whatever we know about.
00:27:42.860 I think Howard Lutnik basically told him, drop these tariffs or we will drop the hammer on you.
00:27:49.520 So, um, he says that the feds are leaving.
00:27:55.340 Well, for the last little bit, Doug Ford has been trying to lead and look what just happened to him.
00:28:01.940 Howard Lutnik does not respect him.
00:28:03.900 He calls him some guy from Ontario who needed to be broken and it looks like he did get broken.
00:28:09.680 That is not, uh, the aggressive swagger that we saw from Captain Canada, Doug Ford, earlier in the week.
00:28:18.780 This is a man who is, uh, shell-shocked.
00:28:22.480 Like his eyes look like he's a man who stared into the heart of darkness and saw what it meant for him.
00:28:29.340 Um, he's, I mean, but what's, what's the alternative?
00:28:33.740 Now we've got Dominic LeBlanc and Melanie Jolie headed down there.
00:28:36.680 God help us all.
00:28:38.220 Exactly.
00:28:38.920 Yeah.
00:28:39.160 And, uh, and really no mandate for either of them to be conducting this work.
00:28:44.460 We, Parliament is prorogued, uh, right.
00:28:46.880 As it stands right now.
00:28:48.120 And there's an elect, as you know, I suspect that there will be an election called as soon as Parliament is back in to functional business.
00:28:55.640 And, um, I guess they're there representing the Canadian people.
00:29:00.160 So God help us all.
00:29:02.180 Yeah.
00:29:02.720 I think that was a good time.
00:29:04.020 I think that was a good time to hit a rebel ad break.
00:29:07.860 Uh, I think we're halfway through the show and I think we're moving into new topics.
00:29:11.900 Um, we've got one chat here.
00:29:16.760 Uh, Olivia, let me know if we have an ad read before we move on, but we've got one chat here and it's from J Toma 8318, 10 bucks.
00:29:25.940 Any update on the mass shooting up there last week?
00:29:29.400 There was never suspect descriptions originally.
00:29:32.260 Were they not identified or were they an inconvenient identity?
00:29:35.600 Any arrests?
00:29:36.320 Um, the sad thing about the state of affairs in Canada is your comment leaves me scratching my head.
00:29:43.160 Which one?
00:29:45.440 Which one?
00:29:47.220 Um, I'm not even aware of, of the mass shooting, whether is it the one, um, that happened?
00:29:53.820 In Pickering?
00:29:54.160 There was a Pickering one. 0.53
00:29:55.900 There was a Scarborough pub one March 11th.
00:29:59.900 Uh, the other one I think was the same day or the day before.
00:30:03.500 Or, uh, or was there actually another one last week?
00:30:08.360 Um, yeah.
00:30:09.740 So.
00:30:10.020 That's okay.
00:30:10.540 Which one?
00:30:11.240 Because they're taking my duck hunting guns away.
00:30:13.540 You guys are going to be fine and safe.
00:30:15.320 They're taking my duck hunting guns away.
00:30:17.360 So whatever.
00:30:18.440 You guys are going to be good.
00:30:19.680 But yeah, this is a headline from Trudeau's Canada.
00:30:22.600 One day after a mass shooting took place inside a pub in Scarborough, Toronto police arrested and charged two men who were allegedly plotting a murder in Pickering.
00:30:31.380 Uh, between this and the meth labs, drug labs, fentanyl labs blowing up in suburbia, this is what it's like to live in a major city in Trudeau's Canada.
00:30:41.260 If you take out certain cities in the United States, our crime rate is actually higher per capita than the United States.
00:30:49.800 But the, uh, liberal gun grabbers, they won't tell you that stuff.
00:30:54.840 Yeah.
00:30:55.320 So there's two people who have at least been arrested and, um, maybe we'll find out more.
00:31:00.360 Maybe, maybe not.
00:31:02.000 But, you know, unfortunately, um, shootings are just becoming a common place.
00:31:09.220 And, uh, again, as Sheila mentioned, it's the legal gun owners who are the problem.
00:31:13.980 Don't you know?
00:31:14.660 The ones that are vetted and run through the RCMP system every single day.
00:31:19.160 Those guys, you have to go after them because the, uh, illegal crime, uh, the crime and illegal drug smuggling.
00:31:26.700 Well, you know, that's just kind of all par for the course.
00:31:30.840 Yep.
00:31:30.980 I go and get my hunting license and then, uh, it's the same people as me who then go spray bullets into a crowded pub in Scarborough.
00:31:38.940 That's what the liberals would have you believe.
00:31:41.920 Um, speaking of which, I think we have a message from our friends at the National Firearms Association.
00:31:46.940 We can get to right now.
00:31:48.500 Why should you join Canada's National Firearms Association?
00:31:58.160 We currently have one of the most aggressively anti-firearm governments in our nation's history, promoting fear and placing blame like never before.
00:32:07.620 Our rights, freedoms, culture, and heritage.
00:32:10.900 It's all on the line.
00:32:12.900 But we are fighting back.
00:32:14.980 And there is strength in numbers.
00:32:16.320 We work within the law to change the law, to defend competitors, hunters, collectors, and other law-abiding firearms owners.
00:32:24.680 We can get through this.
00:32:26.520 We've done it before.
00:32:27.960 And we'll do it again.
00:32:29.500 If you are with us.
00:32:33.540 Canada's National Firearms Association.
00:32:36.600 Freedom, safety, responsibility.
00:32:42.260 Canadians know the national anthem.
00:32:44.580 They stand in silence to remember those who died for this country.
00:32:49.140 But not every Canadian knows their rights and freedoms.
00:32:52.680 The Freedom Passport will change that.
00:32:55.120 It looks and feels like a Canadian passport, but contains the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms in a portable, easy-to-read format.
00:33:04.540 The Freedom Passport.
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00:33:14.580 All right.
00:33:17.360 Next up.
00:33:18.920 Justin Trudeau.
00:33:20.260 I didn't watch this.
00:33:21.640 I wanted to react cold to this.
00:33:24.460 I didn't watch it.
00:33:25.540 I just saw him, like, at his desk.
00:33:27.960 I think his sleeves were rolled up.
00:33:29.600 Yep.
00:33:30.000 So he's pretending to work.
00:33:31.200 That's how you know.
00:33:32.200 I haven't watched this.
00:33:33.900 Let's react together.
00:33:35.260 I am so proud of Canadians.
00:33:38.880 I'm proud to have served a country full of people who stand up for what's right, rise to every occasion, and always have each other's backs when it matters most.
00:33:49.160 This may be my last day here in this office, but I will always be boldly and unapologetically Canadian.
00:33:59.160 My only ask is that no matter what the world throws at us, you always be the same.
00:34:05.340 Oh, my gosh.
00:34:08.280 I can't.
00:34:09.760 I, like, it's, yeah, I had to keep, keep it in.
00:34:14.400 You know that saying, when you puke in your mouth?
00:34:16.800 That's how I feel.
00:34:18.820 Listening.
00:34:19.180 When he talks, yeah, like, I don't like listening with an earpiece to him talk because it feels like the inside of my ear is being licked by a hobo. 0.99
00:34:28.620 Like, I don't, it's so gross.
00:34:30.680 I just hate it so much.
00:34:32.740 There's something, but the tone and tenor of his voice that just grosses me right out.
00:34:39.220 He's really good at speaking moistly.
00:34:40.980 I remember when there was that compilation of Trudeau during the mask mandates when he was telling people not to speak moistly, and that is quite literally how he speaks.
00:34:57.340 This is just more, and I posted this to X, just such paternalistic weirdness.
00:35:04.400 On his way out the door, just has to reiterate from, as though he's some sort of, like, fatherly figure, I am just so proud of you.
00:35:14.300 As he's literally destroyed the basis of Canada, left us in economic turmoil, has morale at an all-time low across various sectors, including just the everyday general Canadian,
00:35:29.260 and has taxed us more than any other previous administration, where our taxes now comprise of more than our basic living necessities, like food, shelter, and clothing combined.
00:35:46.840 And so Trudeau is leaving Canadians with a message that he's so proud of them.
00:35:51.720 Yeah, because we've persevered through your horrible governance.
00:35:55.660 Yeah, I guess we can really get through anything.
00:35:57.540 But also, is he really proud of us?
00:35:59.980 Because I feel like he crap-talked us for, like, 10 straight years.
00:36:03.200 Our oil industry was dirty.
00:36:05.220 We were climate criminals.
00:36:06.920 And then we were unacceptable fringe radicals with bad viewpoints or whatever it was.
00:36:12.380 We were genocide heirs.
00:36:13.980 We committed a genocide, he'll have you know.
00:36:16.500 I don't feel like he actually is proud of us at all.
00:36:19.800 I feel like he spent the last 10 years trying his best to browbeat most of us into submission.
00:36:25.080 Mm-hmm.
00:36:26.080 To break Canadians. 0.96
00:36:27.760 Yeah.
00:36:28.040 And he was not successful in that.
00:36:30.640 And perhaps that he's, through some strange inversion of introspection, he's seeing that he wasn't able to break us.
00:36:37.760 And so now Trudeau is so proud and having each other's backs.
00:36:42.100 And I'm like, didn't you freeze Canadians' bank accounts when they opposed you politically and took to the nation's capital to protest how your government was acting?
00:36:51.460 Like, how was that having anybody's back?
00:36:53.960 Ask a Westerner how Trudeau has had our back these last 10 years, blocking our industry, getting tariffs stuck on our agricultural sector.
00:37:04.480 And I'm not just talking about the most recent canola ones.
00:37:07.340 When he pranced his way through India, we came home with a pulse tariff. 0.89
00:37:10.860 Like, it just is nonstop with Trudeau.
00:37:15.080 And now he says, we've got your back.
00:37:16.920 Yeah, you put a knife in it, maybe.
00:37:18.560 Like, I just, what is he talking about?
00:37:22.220 Just go away. 0.98
00:37:24.120 We have your back by selecting the next prime minister that nobody actually voted for.
00:37:28.920 So good luck, I guess.
00:37:30.520 And don't let the door hit you on the way out, Trudeau.
00:37:33.940 Now let's talk about how serious Trump is with his American expansionism.
00:37:39.600 I think there will be America and then greater America, which may include Panama and quite possibly Greenland.
00:37:46.980 And Canada economically.
00:37:50.160 The Trump White House has asked the U.S. military to develop options for the Panama Canal.
00:37:56.600 Potential plans range from partnering more closely with Panamanian security forces to a less likely option of U.S. troops seizing the canal by force.
00:38:05.560 Again, I don't think anybody has to do anything by force because the United States is such an economic behemoth that they can bring you to your knees in many, many other ways.
00:38:16.620 As well as Doug Ford just learned with one phone call the other day in a tweet.
00:38:20.820 So, yeah, it says the U.S. Southern Command is developing potential plans that vary from, okay, I read that part.
00:38:28.620 Whether military force is used, the officials added, this is quite the statement.
00:38:33.880 Whether military force is used, the officials added, depends on how much Panamanian security forces agree to partner with the United States.
00:38:43.060 And it's all to diminish China's presence there. 0.94
00:38:47.680 Well, and the Panama Canal is also a massive source of illegal human trafficking.
00:38:53.060 And so I think regaining control and doing away with some of these, the radical rebel groups that have control of those, that space is going to obviously ripple into increasing the border security of the United States.
00:39:15.580 And that is the other thing that Trump has campaigned on, is America first, tightening up the border, getting rid of the illegal aliens and illegal immigration that is resulting in crime, violence, and drugs on the street. 0.82
00:39:35.060 And the Panama Canal is a major source of that.
00:39:39.660 Well, and there's another added layer in all of this.
00:39:41.800 Guess who paid for the construction of the Panama Canal?
00:39:43.720 Now, the Americans.
00:39:46.580 So they've got a financial investment in it, you know, like it's over 100 and some years old.
00:39:52.220 But you know who should be paying close attention to this and checking himself before he wrecks himself?
00:39:56.700 David Eby in British Columbia, because he is proposing tariffs, not just proposing, bringing forward legislation to enact tariffs, tolls, I guess, essentially,
00:40:10.320 on American goods that are traveling through British Columbia to Alaska.
00:40:15.340 Now, guess what the trade route is for that?
00:40:17.560 The Alaska Highway.
00:40:19.060 It goes from the United States to Alaska through British Columbia.
00:40:23.540 Guess who paid for that?
00:40:24.780 Also the Americans.
00:40:25.860 So David Eby should be watching this with great trepidation because he's trying to pull this.
00:40:31.980 He's going one step further than Panama is. 1.00
00:40:35.200 Panama is just saying, like, look, we're not going to crack down on China doing whatever China does here.
00:40:40.300 David Eby is going one step further and tariffing American goods on a highway they built.
00:40:45.900 Oh, and, you know, I'm jumping ahead a little bit here, but is this, this is the same premier that wasted $118,000 on a party for bureaucrats.
00:40:59.440 Premier David Eby wasted this, had an outlandish party.
00:41:05.320 I mean, I don't know, I had a wedding for under, for a fraction of that cost.
00:41:11.560 But he decided to spend at least $117,841 hosting the premier's Innovation and Excellence Award in Victoria on November 26th, 2024.
00:41:25.980 And this is according to documents obtained by the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
00:41:30.360 The event invoice includes charges for French 75 cocktails costing $21 each, a three-course dinner, $99 per person, bottles of flavored sparkling water costing $7.50.
00:41:46.940 Do you know what, my good sir, let me introduce you to the Ninja Thirsty.
00:41:50.840 It bubbles the water for you.
00:41:53.860 I wouldn't suggest the SodaStream because I realized that David Eby is in the NDP and SodaStream products are made with Palestinians and Israelis working side by side in peace and harmony.
00:42:05.960 And he can't have that.
00:42:07.520 So, yeah, that's outrageous.
00:42:09.520 $7.50 for sparkling water, like water with bubbles in it.
00:42:14.060 And room rentals, of course, costing $14,000.
00:42:18.120 The list goes on here.
00:42:19.360 But it's funny, I think this is the Canadian Taxpayer Federation, Binda, said that the province could have saved, thank you, the province could have saved $14,000 by hosting the reception five minutes away at the legislature or down the road at government house.
00:42:39.700 And this came just three weeks after British Columbia Premier David Eby announced or published, rather, his fall economic statement that showed projected deficits up by $1.5 billion.
00:42:54.660 So, yeah, thanks, David Eby.
00:42:57.020 I'm sure you're really into how to be fiscally responsible and respect taxpayer dollars.
00:43:04.740 Yeah, it's typical.
00:43:06.780 I saw some pictures the other day of his liquor store shelves because they pulled the American booze off.
00:43:15.760 They'll sure show those Americans you won't get the booze you want to drink as a B.C. consumer in some sort of bizarre care for.
00:43:26.180 I think the only people being punished are British Columbians.
00:43:28.600 But this is, again, the schizophrenic response of the Canadian officials to this.
00:43:33.140 It just doesn't make any sense.
00:43:34.860 You know what gets me with those photos of the plastic tape, like all the booze taped off and it's all being wrapped in saran wrap.
00:43:42.060 And then it's very reminiscent of the COVID era when all non-essential goods were quarantined off and saran wrapped, like birthday cards and kids' shoes.
00:43:55.360 I remember I couldn't buy shoes or clothes for my kids because it was deemed non-essential.
00:44:00.060 And I'm like, do you realize that they grow an inch every month?
00:44:02.720 But I'm like, why can't we get plastic straws?
00:44:07.620 We can cordon everything off in the store and in grocery stores with saran wrap, which is not recyclable, by the way.
00:44:16.040 But we can't get some recyclable plastic straws up in here.
00:44:19.180 What is even going on?
00:44:20.340 Where is Stephen Gilbeau when you need him to denounce radical plastic usage?
00:44:25.160 My goodness.
00:44:27.680 Now, our next chat, I'll get to our next super chat in a second because it's relevant to the thing we're going to talk about right now.
00:44:37.500 This is Melanie Jolie, the first minister.
00:44:40.340 No, sorry, not the first ministers.
00:44:41.760 The first ministers are premiers.
00:44:43.180 The foreign ministers of the G7 are meeting right now in Quebec and down the road, the G7 leaders will meet in Alberta in June.
00:44:57.960 Beautiful Kananaskis, which will, of course, inspire Trump to want to take us over more because what a gem that part of Alberta is.
00:45:06.560 So Rubio is standing right beside Melanie Jolie in this.
00:45:14.220 And I know Rubio tweeted yesterday that he was on his way and basically there's a new sheriff in town.
00:45:23.220 I also imagine that a lot of things are going to change between the foreign ministers meeting now and a couple of months down the road in Kananaskis in Alberta.
00:45:35.760 I think because that'll be Trump coming to Alberta and quite likely, more than likely, from my lips to God's ears, Pierre Polyev will be the prime minister of the country.
00:45:47.420 But our chat here, I want to get to this because it's relevant because it discusses the G7.
00:45:54.060 Granite man gives us two bucks and says, Rubio going to hammer all these idiots and Jolie. 0.69
00:45:57.960 I think Rubio is the right guy to be there doing this.
00:46:03.740 I think he's going to have all the pressure from the other six to say, like, what are you guys doing with the tariffs?
00:46:10.240 And I think we'll be lucky.
00:46:12.500 We'll be lucky if we get away by the end of tomorrow without more tariffs because Jolie is not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, if you know what I mean.
00:46:23.540 And yet we have leaks from the media that Carney's new cabinet, who was never elected or voted in to do this work by any normal Canadian, but rather by the few of the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:46:38.800 His new cabinet will keep her in this position. 0.91
00:46:42.940 And so I suppose we'll see how this unfolds.
00:46:47.360 But you'd think it's a great opportunity if Mark Carney wanted to show some strong leadership to place someone a little bit stronger in such a position in order to negotiate.
00:47:03.520 I mean, who got us into this mess?
00:47:04.900 So you're going to continue to lean on them to continue on with those negotiations when how did we end up here exactly?
00:47:13.640 He'll shuffle, I guess, Stephen Gilbeau from the environment file.
00:47:18.040 And apparently, Immigration Minister Mark Miller will be out of cabinet entirely.
00:47:24.240 That's what the Star is reporting anyway.
00:47:26.800 He's going to, I guess he's indicated or his team has indicated that they will have a much smaller cabinet than Prime Minister Trudeau's current 36-member team, with seven of them indicating they're not running again.
00:47:42.800 So Jolie will remain in her post.
00:47:46.100 Parody?
00:47:47.080 Well, they have gender parity, because I'm reliably informed by the Liberals themselves.
00:47:52.400 This is a really important thing that you have to have, regardless of who is elected or the talent pool, you're supposed to have equal parts men and women serving on the cabinet.
00:48:02.540 So I look forward to see if Mark Carney continues that unhinged and irresponsible tradition of putting people in positions they neither deserve nor are capable of fulfilling.
00:48:15.520 But yeah, I'm happy to see it.
00:48:18.080 Exactly.
00:48:19.120 A DEI cabinet.
00:48:21.080 However, I'm very happy to see the absolutely toxic loser, Stephen Gilbeau, being shuffled out of environment.
00:48:30.080 He is the climate radical, so that was the ministry for him.
00:48:34.720 But he continues to lose in court against Alberta, and he is a flake and a crazy person.
00:48:41.060 And he was terrible on the Jasper file, terrible on the emissions cap.
00:48:47.800 And Carney is doing the one thing that Alberta has asked Justin Trudeau to do for a very long time, and that was to fire Stephen Gilbeau.
00:48:56.120 So I guess in that regard, that's like a wink at Daniel Smith that maybe things will be different.
00:49:02.840 However, I'm not sure.
00:49:03.900 I think that is just like a little bit of sleight of hand.
00:49:06.100 Well, and meanwhile, the parliamentary budget officer came out with a, as Danielle Smith puts it, a scathing analysis showing that the oil and gas cap will, as we have already been saying and sounding the alarm on, hurt Canadians.
00:49:23.800 It will cut oil and gas production by 5%, which she says will result in over 245,000 barrels a day.
00:49:33.640 It will eliminate 45,400 jobs from Canada's economy.
00:49:39.460 And cut 24,000 jobs from Canada's economy and cut 20 billion from our GDP by 2032.
00:49:52.680 All while global emissions increase at the same time, and the largest offenders, like China, run away all the way to the bank. 0.98
00:50:02.420 Yeah, it's not a cap on emissions.
00:50:04.800 They say it's a cap on emissions.
00:50:06.420 But Daniel Smith has always rightly called it a cap on production, because once you get to a certain emissions target, you can't produce over that.
00:50:13.620 Well, that only stops Alberta from producing. 0.99
00:50:15.880 But it sure as heck doesn't stop North Dakota from producing, and they share a common oil field with Saskatchewan.
00:50:23.540 So Saskatchewan can't produce, but right across the border in North Dakota, they can fill the gap. 0.53
00:50:29.360 And West Texas can fill the gap.
00:50:31.280 And Venezuela can fill the gap, especially with regard to heavy oil, which the American refineries need, because they are fitted to deal with Alberta's heavy oil.
00:50:41.700 So, and this is what we've been saying all along.
00:50:46.420 You can't say you can only produce up to a certain amount, but also say, no, no, it won't affect jobs.
00:50:51.020 Do you understand how jobs work?
00:50:53.820 You know, like if you only give people so much work to do, and that's the amount of work that they can do, they don't continue to get paid.
00:51:01.200 They get laid off.
00:51:02.420 They have to go home.
00:51:03.540 They don't work for the government.
00:51:04.800 It's like, it's like people who have never seen a car making the rules of the road when you're dealing with government bureaucrats trying to understand what it's like to work in the private sector.
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00:52:40.380 And I think we are running up against the clock, but maybe we can get to a few of these extra little tidbits that we had pulled aside here.
00:52:49.200 We got to the EB1, which is really fun.
00:52:51.820 What about this one out of UBC?
00:52:54.640 It's their Okanagan campus.
00:52:57.260 Yeah, this is wild.
00:52:58.460 Yeah, and I peeked into it a little bit further, too, because I thought, anyway, this comes from Jonathan Kay, who posted to X that the student union at Okanagan's UBC campus denied an application for a student conservative party club.
00:53:17.500 And amazingly, the students union VP internal flat out admitted that the decision was made on the basis of partisan political considerations.
00:53:26.560 And so he posted the email there.
00:53:29.920 And, of course, it's a he, him, his student union vice president.
00:53:36.160 But basically, you know, it's clarifying the board's decision.
00:53:39.500 There were differing opinions among the directors.
00:53:42.620 Some were in favor of ratifying the club, considering Kelowna's conservative presence, right?
00:53:47.620 So they acknowledge that there is one and the opportunity for political debates featuring various perspectives.
00:53:53.740 However, of course, concerns were raised and some directors were concerned that certain views associated with the party,
00:54:00.940 particularly those regarding the Black and LGBTQ plus communities, could make students from these groups feel excluded or unwelcome.
00:54:12.820 So that's that was their response.
00:54:15.320 And, of course, then Jonathan Kaye posts here that they have a Young Liberals of Canada group.
00:54:21.880 And let me just pull up the web page that I found because I thought it was really interesting that they have a whole pride resource center on at the Okanagan campus.
00:54:36.620 And so in the pride resource center, which was established in 2003.
00:54:42.100 So this is like a, you know, a longstanding thing.
00:54:44.700 It's not new.
00:54:46.440 And this wasn't the proper link.
00:54:48.820 Anyway, in there, and I don't have the link handy, but they have a pride resource center, a sex positivity center, and a lesbians for livable futures community. 0.54
00:55:04.220 And so I posed the question, I said, because the UBC actually has an equity and inclusion office.
00:55:11.160 And so I wonder what their response would be to this very exclusionary stance taken by the Okanagan campus.
00:55:18.080 But maybe I think they might just be nervous that a conservative member, a conservative party club may actually outnumber their pride resource center, their sex positivity center, and their lesbians for livable futures community combined.
00:55:38.660 Combined, I think that a conservative party club would outnumber those.
00:55:42.720 And, I mean, hey, if that's the case, then why not?
00:55:46.620 Let it just speak for itself.
00:55:48.140 Like, why do you have to take these weird stances and deny people the ability to have a club if that's what they so desire?
00:55:55.960 Well, that's the thing.
00:55:57.160 You have the freedom of association, don't you?
00:56:00.440 So why can't you have one?
00:56:02.020 Apparently, everybody else has one.
00:56:03.520 And, you know, it's interesting that it's happening on this particular campus because the Okanagan is one of the most conservative places in all of British Columbia.
00:56:12.440 Dan Albus is the MP there.
00:56:14.880 He's about as conservative as you can get.
00:56:17.580 They've got Norm Letnick.
00:56:19.180 He's one of the MLAs.
00:56:20.380 The other one is Tara Armstrong, who's so conservative she left the conservative party of British Columbia because they weren't conservative enough this past week. 0.51
00:56:27.800 But here's the real problem, and it goes directly to your point, Tamara.
00:56:33.640 Canadian youths, which is like voting age youth, now support the conservatives more than any other party, a development not seen in decades.
00:56:43.480 This is from the Fraser Institute.
00:56:45.280 According to an abacus poll, 36% of Canadians between 18 to 29 years would support the conservatives versus 27% for the NDP, which holds the power in British Columbia, and a paltry 19% for the liberals.
00:56:57.800 Nor is support for Polioff's conservatives just a backlash from the failing futures of youths under the Trudeau regime.
00:57:07.200 An Environyx poll found that young people in Canada would vote for Trump more than any other group.
00:57:11.320 28% of Canadians between 18 to 34 preferred Trump versus 13% for those 55 and over, and 27% between 35 and 54.
00:57:21.240 And then it goes through the reasons why young people are conservative.
00:57:25.420 And so, yes, it goes to your point.
00:57:27.140 They don't want this club to be full of young conservatives.
00:57:32.540 And young conservatives are not just like yokels like me and my kids.
00:57:36.540 It's not rural shooting prepper types like me.
00:57:40.300 It's young people who just want to own a house, have a health care system that they might want to use one day. 0.65
00:57:48.760 People who want to be able to access a health care system that won't offer them made.
00:57:54.760 Kids that don't want to step over a drug addict on the way to play soccer.
00:57:58.900 Like, it's not extremists, as the left would call me.
00:58:04.620 It's just severely normal people who want a little bit of what it used to mean to be a Canadian in their life.
00:58:11.180 Yeah, and I mean, if we want to talk about extremists, you can go and you can view for yourself the lesbians for livable futures. 1.00
00:58:24.380 Oh, it looks like they're actually scrubbing their pages.
00:58:26.520 So, I posted this on X and it's already, that's why I couldn't find the link.
00:58:32.180 It looks like they're scrubbing some of these pages.
00:58:35.220 So, for anybody who wants to quickly try to archive some of this stuff.
00:58:40.520 But, yeah, they have a sex positivity center where they de-stigmatize and celebrate sex, sexuality and sexual health.
00:58:47.740 Offering a safe space?
00:58:49.820 Like, no.
00:58:50.700 This is, yeah, this, and these are young, like, these are young teens heading off, you know, for the first time away from their parents, first time away from their house, exercising some independence.
00:59:02.020 And they really need to be part of a sex positivity center club. 1.00
00:59:05.640 And yet, they can't have a conservative party member club.
00:59:08.380 This is just so bizarre.
00:59:10.420 And clearly not inclusive or tolerant.
00:59:15.360 Okay, I just got a quick message from HQ that they need the studio for something else.
00:59:22.160 And we have met our one-hour obligations to our viewers.
00:59:28.420 Thank you for sticking with us as we ran late and started late today.
00:59:33.440 Olivia, Efron, everybody behind the board who makes sure the show is there for you to see it whenever you want to see it.
00:59:39.160 Tamara, thanks so much for being my co-host today and helping us stay on time and on topic.
00:59:48.200 And as my friend David Menzies always says, stay safe and stay sane.
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