REBEL ROUNDUP ｜ 'Foreigners' stare at pool, Violent far-left protester, Trump defends women's sports
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Summary
Alexa Lavoie, a freelance journalist in the streets of Montreal, Canada, joins host Tamara Ugolini to discuss her experience covering the massive protests that took place over the weekend in the heart of the city, in front of Notre-Dame Basilica.
Transcript
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All right. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Rebel Roundup, our daily live stream where we bring
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you the news of the day, completely unscripted and sometimes painfully live. It's Thursday,
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July the 10th. I am your host, Tamara Ugolini, and I'm joined today by my co-host and colleague
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and friend, Alexa Lavoie out of Quebec. Alexa, how are you doing over there?
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Good. Doing well. Thank you. Enjoying this summer weather that we're having. Nice warm spurt after
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a couple of days of it being cold. We, as always, have a ton of topics to bring you today. We'll be
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chatting about foreigners staring at women and children in the pool, some violent far left
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protester happenings, and an update with a special guest today. I think they're joining about 1.30
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and we might get some other headlines such as Trump defending women's sports. And here in Canada,
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we're defending women in the pools. So we'll showcase and highlight some of Alexa's exclusive
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independent reporting out in the field, in the wild, as we like to say. First and foremost,
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though, we have an update right off the top from the Independent Press Gallery that has condemned the
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Montreal Police's treatment of you, Alexa, in the field over the weekend. You were threatened
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with arrest. You were physically obstructed from doing your job, which was reporting on and recording
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public demonstration in front of the Notre Dame Basilica. So I'll just highlight a couple of points
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from this press release, if my computer will let me zoom in closer on it, which of course it won't.
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But anyway, the gist of it, I already stated, you know, that the police were trying to restrict
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and prohibit you from recording. And this is obviously a topic that is in the public interest
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and has great political significance, these gatherings. And so about the third paragraph,
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I just want to highlight this. Ms. Lavoie was ordered to leave the area by the SVPM officers told
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to stop creating an event and threatened with arrest for obstruction while simply filming.
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Meanwhile, demonstrators were allowed to block her camera with signs and flags and engage in hostile
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behavior, completely unchallenged by law enforcement. Alexa, I think we have a clip of this report,
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which will be coming out later today. But the crazy part to me is that not only did you have to deal
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with such hostility from the actual protesters in the event that you were covering, but then you had
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to have, it was like a double whammy, where the police were then being hostile and trying to further
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obstruct you from doing your job? What was even happening there? And I actually, I was really
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surprised because at one point they say, oh, let them pray, let them pray. I was not there for stopping
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them of praying. I was there to record their prayer. And at one point, one police say like,
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I do not even understand why she's filming this. First of all, it's not you to decide what I'm filming
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or not. I'm doing my journalism. I'm doing this because this is a newsworthy, especially with
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the public prayer ban that Francois Legault wants to put in place. And at one point, who was obstructing
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me the most was the police officers. It was not even like, okay, the protesters were violent,
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but the police were literally pulling me out of the place physically at multiple occasions.
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And at one point, one of the police that was the other side of the street ran to the other
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side to pull my backpack and to pull me out. And it was like, I was just filming on top of
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the car because they were filming. Obviously, they use a truck to hide themselves. So I was just trying
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to pull my camera on in the air for being able to film because obviously they are using signs and flags
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in front of my camera to obstruct my vision. And I was not doing anything. I was just close to the car,
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a rental car, by the way. And this was a problem. But I was not interacting with anybody. I was not
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provoking anybody. I was just filming and doing my job.
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Well, and I just received word that the video has now been published in its entirety. So if you want
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to check out that full report from Alexa, what happened over the weekend between these protesters
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and the Montreal police, you can do that at standwithalexa.com. There will be legal fees and
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there are existing legal fees mounting with the Montreal police. It looks like there will be more.
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And so if you want to support Alexa in her endeavors to simply be out in the streets and
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report and film things in public spaces that are of great public interest, you can do that at
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standwithalexa.com. Make sure that you check out the full report there as well to see all of the
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nitty gritty, what exactly is happening in the streets of Montreal. And again, like this is a Catholic
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church. This isn't a mosque. This is a sign of, I would say, domination and showing to the public,
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we can do whatever we want with indemnity. And you can't even be here to film any of it. Because
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the police will have our backs. And they will accost you just as we the protesters are similarly doing.
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And by the way, because if it's not at the cenotaph, sometimes they are going to go in front of the
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cenotaph. But if it's not the basilica, it would be the cenotaph that represent the veteran who die
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for our democracy, for our country. Or they will go in front of different consulates to show again their
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domination over not only Canada, but the US and Israel and the religion that is Christianism.
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And it really, I tried to reach out to the DRCs of Montreal, to ask them a couple of questions.
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I didn't receive any reply from them. Obviously, they will probably not comment on another religion,
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just for avoiding any backlash or anything like that. But imagine if
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if a lot of Christians decide to go and pray in front of a mosque. I'm really, really, really, really,
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you know, interested to know how everything turns out and how they would portray this peaceful,
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you know, like praying in front. We know that Christians have been under attack
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this recently and over the past few years. So, of course, like nobody would do that because it's
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Yeah, the disrespect and also the hypocrisy, like what, as you rightfully point out, what would happen
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if the tables were turned? And hey, maybe that's where we're at, that we need to see it play out
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in real time. What would the response be like and what would happen? But I don't think that Catholics
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have, they don't care enough to engage in that kind of disrespectful, dominating behavior. You know,
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they're just wanting to practice their religion in peace and live in harmony. They're not looking to
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ruffle any feathers or rile anybody up. And that, sadly, is the difference that you see there.
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But the reaction from the police is like a whole other issue in and of itself. And that's why
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there will be some legal endeavors moving forward as you continue to fight with the Montreal police
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simply to uphold the ability and that is simply the freedom of the press, right? Why can these people
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are out in public? They're in the public square. This is a public interest topic. And we're going to
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report on it. And I think the police are not, or have not, in previous years, been able to testify
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to their reasoning behind telling someone, like a journalist, to move along or you can't film here.
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They're so used to people just kowtowing, caving, saying, oh, okay, yeah, sure, no, no,
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and moving along. They're not used to having that pushback to say, no, I know my rights. I have
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the responsibility to bring the public this story and I'm going to continue filming it. And they're
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And I'm pretty surprised because the chief of police, his name is new. I think he's been in place
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since 2022, 2023. I don't really recall when he got in place, but it was mainly by Mayor Valéry Blanc.
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But his name is Fadi Daguerre. He's a Lebanese-Canadian, but I've been told that he's a Christian.
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So I'm really surprised that he's letting all this going forward, knowing that how Christians have
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been persecuted, how Muslim, not Muslim, but like radical Islam have actually invaded some places,
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like in the Middle East and et cetera. I'm pretty surprised to see that there is no, no,
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no action being taken at all. Like they are letting them doing whatever they want.
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They don't have any repercussion. If they hit someone, they are not going to stop them
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because you will see in the video, Guillaume had been attacked. His camera almost like being
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thrown into the ground in front of the police and the police did actually nothing again and again.
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So it seems like they, it's not seen. There is a two-tier policing and there is a double standard of
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how we are treating alternative media and how we are treating those protesters.
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A hundred percent. And it keeps becoming more and more clear. And so before we move on from
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this topic, let's just throw to a quick teaser of this full report. And of course,
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if you want to support Alexa's work and see the full interaction, you can go to standwithalexa.com.
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Vous n'avez pas le droit de me toucher! Vous n'avez pas le droit de me toucher!
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it's so angering to see that play out um and the way that you're treated alexa but thanks for your
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bravery and continuing to bring us this kind of footage because i think without your work some
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of these other round tables and conference discussions on extremism in canada well they
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wouldn't have anything to source back to so thank you for your original independent reporting on this
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topic it um certainly doesn't go unnoticed by us um so we also have more independent original reporting
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from you alexa where the community has spoken out against i mean you call them alleged foreigners
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but i think the visuals are pretty clear staring at females and children at the local swimming pool
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uh maybe let's just play the cold open of this report and then i'll get you to expand a little
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bit more on what's happening did you see an increase of this new it's not really new but
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this phenomenon increasing with the fact that we receive a massive uh new immigrants here in
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quebec and in canada i wouldn't say so i don't think there's a correlation between race and like
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that movement now but i think in europe it's been for decades that it exists this problem
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there it's important to say no uh le québec and canada are a very open culture but there are
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things that need to say no it's not racist to say no to certain things and then i would
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like to say that the feminists the feminists they say enough to say that they have a double standard
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where they would say that it's like oh no we don't want to talk about that because it's racist
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to not have a fear to denouncement i think that people have been a lot retened by the
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part and the part of being treated as racist or intolerant but it's not a question of racism or
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intolerance c'est tolérance zéro pour tout le monde d'agir la sorte avec mass immigration has brought many
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challenges and what i'm about to show you is one of the most concerning women and children no longer
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feel safe incidents of staring groping and inappropriate behavior have been reported
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multiple times right here in montreal's public swimming pools
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yeah that the fact that everybody gets called racist for as that woman points out rightfully
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points out calling out inappropriate behavior is the absolute bananas upside down world that we're
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living in i think no matter across cultural race lines if you are here in canada and there is
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inappropriate behavior taking place it needs to be called out every single time we need to stop being
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fearful of these ridiculous labels that just get thrown around and tossed around as though they don't
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mean anything anymore like these people are obviously not racist they're just trying to protect the
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the pool public swimming space so that women and girls and children can be comfortable to swim at them
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this is this is not racism at all and we need to make a difference in between race and culture
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it's completely different we it's not the same thing and the we are talking to a specific type of culture
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of a voyeurism of staring at of groping and there is older uh women who have reported to receive
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um balls like you know balls in the face at the pool because i know which kind of behavior it's like an
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extension of themselves so if the ball is actually touching a woman it's kind of like the same kind of
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feeling as if you touch the woman yourself so there is multiple incidents and it's growing it's not new um
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it's been years that some women have refused to go to that uh public school uh public pool
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and it's not just women it's children also so imagine being a a mother you go to a public pool
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with your children and your children is being stared at and how they were describing me uh how they
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are acting sometimes they are sitting in the grass they are splitting to things like they are not in
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group and sometimes they will go to the fence and they will grab the fence and just look inside of the
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fence like that and not move at all and sometimes they are going inside of the public pool and sometimes
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it's happening in the water that they are grouping and they are like kind of doing inappropriate
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behavior and sometimes it's also like invading um the private space like sitting on the towel of the
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woman trying to engage with them they cannot take a no for as an answer they will just continue again
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and again and again and harass some women have been reported with their children where they're i don't
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know how you call it like a puss puss like a for for pushing like the baby the the strainer
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and they had to scream no get away from me imagine like now this park is not it's not safe anymore
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but it's not just that park it's everywhere in all public spaces that is happening it's just now there
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is a lot of complaint in one specific area but it's happening in other provinces in other public
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spaces and uh you actually share and i'm sorry for what happened to you but i i saw your uh testimony
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online and i'm sorry and i would love like people to know what happened yeah so this actually happened to
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me last year at my local beach the coburg beach um and at first i i was kind of
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second guessing myself like am i reading too much into what's happening but as i looked into it
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further as i see more reports this textbook happened to at the time my nine year old daughter at the
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beach and so a group of guys and immediately my alarm bell started going off because there was four men
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that approached on the beach and they were fully clothed in running shoes they didn't have towels they
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didn't have sandals on like they were obviously sticking out like a sore thumb at the beach where
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you're generally in your bathing suits um and ready to you know head into the water so they obviously
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were not dressed appropriately for the beach right off the bat and my husband was probably about 50 feet
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away throwing around a football with our sons and um i had my at the time nine year old and she was
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digging in the sand building sand castles and then i also had my toddler who you know i was obviously
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keeping a close eye on both of them and so i saw this group of of men come onto the beach and
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immediately i'm watching because they stick out like a sore thumb so i'm like this is really weird
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what's going on here so they sit down and again they don't have towels or anything so they're just
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sitting in the sand fully clothed about i would say probably 20 feet away from us so i'm keeping
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an eye on my daughter my other toddler who's kind of closer to the water's edge and then i'm
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out of the corner of my eye keeping an eye on my other kids playing football with my husband and
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these guys are snickering they're jeering they're staring the staring was the so unsettling because it
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was relentless they did not let up the staring so i'm staring them back and generally speaking when
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you stare people down they become uncomfortable they move away you know there would be some sort
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of response their response to my staring them down was to continue laughing sneering jeering and then
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they get a phone out and they start photographing or perhaps videoing and at that point my daughter
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kind of noticed that i was acting a little bit unusual and she's like why are you staring at that group
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of men and i said because they're staring at us and when people stare at you in public and if they're
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making you feel uncomfortable then you stare right back at them and usually they would feel similarly
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uncomfortable but these guys were not and so this went on probably for about five minutes or so and
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again i'm keeping it on my toddler as well so um i couldn't just leave him and go approach them but my
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mama bear was firing and so finally i said to my daughter go get dad ask him just to come back over
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here and um this is really making me feel unsettled and and creepy and i'm not comfortable anymore and
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as soon as my husband walked over and i pointed them out and he looked over they got up and scurried off
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and like it was almost instant that they picked up and left the beach completely and so i we both
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stared them down as they left the beach and then as we were leaving i was just kind of keeping an eye
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out to see you know where they had went to or if we could find them again or warn other parents perhaps
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but we didn't see them again so this is happening everywhere and it happened to me and it is extremely
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creepy it is very unsettling and now seeing more and more reports of this i regret not approaching
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them or calling it out more kind of vigorously but um you know when you're wrangling a few kids
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at a beach it can be hard and you and you kind of want to be careful how you approach or confront
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those situations but i think that absolutely we need to call this out warn others every single time
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because this is not okay what is happening and you know like um the the person who actually organized
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like the citizen movement was organized by the farland and they arrived there and when i questioned
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them about you know the problem of culture and immigration that are not being adequately integrated
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in the society because we receive too much they say oh no it's not a problem of race it's not
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a problem of culture it's a problem of patriarchy and i was like no it's not a problem of patriarchy
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and the thing is it was the only one with that line of thinking like uh the other people who actually
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arrived afterwards they they actually agree with my question about it and you see i saw afterwards on
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reddit that they say that we came with our racist agenda um and that same the media the mainstream
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media didn't report at all that that it was actually a problem of mass immigration not well integrated
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that they feel that they can do the same behavior that at home for a woman that i've been traveling for
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three months and a half in india and other country in south asia myself i was victim of sexually
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um attacked um attacked like uh touching everywhere uh i've been stared at i've been followed i've been
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arrested um and i had to also bring the security to stop a man to enter to my hostel at one point
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uh so if we are continuing to bring people in that are not integrated who feel that they can do whatever they want
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without any repercussion this problem is going to be worse and i'm so sorry for what happened to you
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and your daughter and i hope your daughter i didn't actually notice that and i hope that she's not
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traumatized by it oh she did she fully noticed and she as soon as she noticed and we started feeling
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uncomfortable that's when i said you know go get dad because i need another adult so i can keep an eye on
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the toddler and we can continue kind of like unabatedly playing in the sand and the i wasn't
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expecting it to them to get up and leave immediately when they saw my husband come over immediately their
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phones went away they got up and they left and i thought because i thought if one of us needs to go
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and confront these individuals and i can't leave my toddler to go do that so um but they left i mean
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and it just shows the the glaring disrespect and disregard for women when they're treated with
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such disdain and like objects because as soon as a man came over they got up and left and i had been
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staring these guys down like and i'm and i have a pretty good uh good death stare and they knew i knew
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what they were doing and they were completely unfazed and also seemed eerily uh provoked by it like they they
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liked that i knew what they were doing and i was and i couldn't necessarily do anything about it
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and so that was really disturbing and unsettling and that's why i say we need to call this out every
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single time and warn others because it's not in your imagination you're not uh you don't need to
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double think this if you see somebody staring down your young child and potentially taking photos or videos
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of them you call that out every single time um i just wanted to get to a one quick rumble rant
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because i know we may have our guests joining in a few minutes this was back uh when we were discussing
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about your reporting at the cathedral and again if you want to see that report you can head to
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stand with alexa.com um peace pisco pisco field 10 pc p s co 10 gives five dollars these cops in front of
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the cathedral are a disgrace if this were 1940 and france they would have been supporters of pittin and
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the vichy government yeah it's the the lack of historical reference or context that people seem to have these
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days um it's astounding to me like people you know the covid response really shone a light on that
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people are still cheering on like oh you disregarded lockdown orders and gathering restrictions well good
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shame on you for disregarding the government's edicts and public health diktats because they were
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that's the law and you should just unquestion unquestionably abide by it people i don't know what
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it is that separates one from the other where where someone can see through the nonsense and another
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person says please govern me harder um you see it still playing out in the streets and i don't know
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what psychologically that is that makes one person question and another person adhere um but let's
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all right hey everyone welcome back and joining us we have karima sad she's a toronto-based lawyer
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political cartoonist and i suppose in a way accidental journalist who's been covering the um protest mania
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as you put it unfolding on the streets of canada throughout the last few years and it's really
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come to a head and shone a light on some of the aggressive tactics that have been deployed by
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those you know who we would traditionally say are the far the left or in certain cases the far left
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and um recently one of these individuals deanna sheriff sheriff i think is the pronunciation of her last
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name um she has been engaged in extremely aggressive behavior and intimidation tactics throughout kind of
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the protest circuit um in ottawa and she was just found guilty of causing a disturbance with what the
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mainstream media and this one here comes from this headline is from cbc news the media says used a
00:31:00.680
squeaky toy to cause this disturbance cream as someone who's been subjected to these tactics and the
00:31:09.800
aggressive sound violence i would i would even say deployed by these individuals how do you respond
00:31:17.480
to the claim that this was just merely a squeaky toy it's technically correct her instrument of choice
00:31:23.880
that day was a squeaky toy um what is important for audience or readers to understand that they
00:31:31.400
wouldn't necessarily glean from that headline is at the time of this incident um dina was already on
00:31:38.840
bail for other serious charges related to protest behavior uh including the alleged use of um a sound
00:31:49.880
weapon um and that one would have been an electronic sound weapon so the one of her bail conditions was
00:31:56.520
specifically not to use for the sole purpose of emitting or projecting sound um that kind of an
00:32:05.480
instrument and so this trial centered on well was a squeaky toy an instrument contemplated by
00:32:14.360
those bail conditions and separate apart from just squeaking a toy um there is 22 minutes or so of
00:32:23.320
footage that comes from her own live stream that depicts the uh the events that unfolded um on the
00:32:31.000
day in question while again she was already on bail and so causing a disturbance partly related to the
00:32:37.560
squeaky toy but also had to do with very aggressive um intimidating language um you know following
00:32:46.440
getting in people's faces um that had you know goes beyond just um this little uh dog toy
00:32:55.880
because me oh because me um she actually used that uh electronic uh noise weapon and i can say that it is
00:33:06.840
really painful and it can actually make someone deaf um just by the sound it's really powerful it's not
00:33:13.880
something like really light to use and especially in in front of his own children
00:33:21.720
not just in front of her child but she's also used her child to use that device um and that's been
00:33:29.960
against adult strangers against police and bylaw um and we haven't seen any enforcement um her initial
00:33:38.520
set of charges came about um in part i believe because um some of the alleged victims were a police
00:33:46.840
officer and a politician but the same behavior that was um observed or alleged on that day has been
00:33:54.680
documented countless times prior to that um and of course there was a brief period between um
00:34:03.400
initially being in jail on that first set of charges and then released on a bail review and then put back
00:34:09.400
in jail um for uh now we can say violating those bail conditions um where there was still ongoing
00:34:17.960
questionable behavior um so we really do see that um law enforcement on the ground um can be selective
00:34:28.840
about what they consider to be problematic behavior at protests um and it leads to an uneven unfair
00:34:38.760
enforcement it puts people at risk um in this particular case it was heard before a judge um you
00:34:45.400
know the evidence was presented and he came to the conclusion that uh she was guilty on two of the three
00:34:52.440
charges yeah here it says also in this article in april of 2024 she was arrested charged with eight
00:35:00.280
offenses including obstruct police two counts of assault with a weapon possession of a weapon dangerous
00:35:05.000
to the public intimidation and two counts of hate motivated harassment do you have an update or do you
00:35:11.240
know of any of the outcomes is that still before the courts yes that is set to be heard in january of
00:35:19.720
2026 um the crown is proceeding by indictment on those charges so that is you know the most serious way in
00:35:27.560
which um a charge can be dealt with um there was at one point indication that um it would be a trial by jury
00:35:36.520
um she's changed counsel since then so i don't know if that will still be the case or if they've re-elected
00:35:43.000
um but that's the meat and potatoes of uh of the charges she's she's facing um this most recent trial dealt
00:35:50.760
with the breach and um disturbance while she was out on bail yeah and i think just to give the viewers a
00:35:59.400
little bit more context i see that there's a but we i mean there is no shortage of clips of dina
00:36:04.840
acting this way in the public space and being aggressive um i think i'll pick this one from
00:36:12.760
the x handle mitch whose video depicts uh dina using a squeaky toy to disrupt a cbc interview
00:36:20.760
and then of course ignoring an officer when she's asked to stop let's just show a quick
00:36:37.560
and how do you spell it i just want to like have the name of the organization
00:36:52.120
not so tough anymore now that the cameras are on you hey carl hey oh what are you sick of me yet carl
00:37:06.760
you're fucking sick of me yet carl okay i think that's enough i'm sick of it already and i'm not
00:37:12.520
even there in person and that was the incident in question so this is what the trial was about and
00:37:19.720
that was one snippet of the 22 minutes of just total belligerent um you know ungovernable behavior where
00:37:27.720
cops um in my view did try several times to de-escalate to get her out of there without
00:37:34.600
outlaying charges um and uh faced a a resistance in in the colloquial sense
00:37:44.360
as someone who obviously has is trained and practices law and has been on the ground reporting
00:37:49.640
on these subjects and says yourself you know you can see the two-tier policing that happens on the
00:37:54.280
streets does this recent um report of the guilty of dina being found guilty does that restore any
00:38:02.680
confidence that you have that maybe the tides are turning or that gap of two-tier policing is starting
00:38:08.120
to close um well so there are different kind of phases of enforcement right there's police
00:38:16.520
on the ground and then there's what happens in a prosecution and then ultimately
00:38:21.080
in a courtroom and so human error means that things can go wrong at anyone or all of those phases
00:38:28.440
um i don't know that this will have a direct impact on what police choose to do on the ground one can
00:38:35.880
hope um that it sends a signal that this type of behavior goes far beyond the parameters of simply
00:38:43.720
voicing dissent or expressing oneself and into the realm of criminal conduct um but what i will say here
00:38:50.760
is that there was a judge who sat through the evidence parsed through it and then came to a conclusion
00:38:58.040
that um you know in my view is quite very sensible um and reflects the the evidence that was put before him
00:39:09.880
has this kind of treatment deterred you at all from continuing to head out into the streets and cover
00:39:15.640
these kinds of uh cultural and political protests i i certainly that's the intent um i don't see any way
00:39:25.720
around that um i'll echo what alexa said earlier that um some of those noise devices are physically
00:39:32.760
painful um and can cause permanent damage um and you know aren't treated with the seriousness or haven't
00:39:40.680
been uh up till this point um that that is deserved um knowing that the intention is to try and intimidate me and
00:39:50.280
others from covering public events in public spaces um i'm perhaps a stubborn person and so you know it
00:39:58.920
hasn't deterred me in the way that um perhaps they would expect i have had to modify um certain things and
00:40:08.120
you know protective ear wear for example things like that that shouldn't be necessary we're not in a war zone
00:40:15.480
um it ought to be possible just to do one's job um and you know in the face of people not wanting
00:40:23.160
me to do my job um that makes me all the more committed to getting that work done and by the way
00:40:30.280
do you think uh if she finally she's found guilty and she will actually have like a harsh sentence or i don't
00:40:39.400
know what uh will happen but do you think that will deter other far-left activists to maybe not
00:40:47.000
engage in the same kind of behavior or do you think it will not change anything
00:40:52.200
deterrence is one of the goals of sentencing so um one would hope that it does um from some of the
00:41:00.600
comments i've read from people who are aligned with dina um they seem to be considering her kind of a
00:41:08.200
martyr um for the cause and you know that she was unjustly prosecuted and this was all unfair and
00:41:15.960
it's state suppression or repression um which i don't think is really a fair or accurate characterization
00:41:22.280
but um that's one way in which this could not have the intended effect um but for anyone who wants to
00:41:31.720
avoid a criminal record and all of the complications that that brings right as far as travel or family
00:41:40.200
law issues or you know a whole host of employment um hopefully they see this this and don't want to
00:41:48.680
emulate these behaviors and you know protests um that don't involve causing physical
00:42:01.720
or emotional harm to others and so that's the more constructive way to go about it and this this
00:42:09.160
is consequences this is real consequences um is it going to have a deterring effect on dina herself so
00:42:15.480
that's that's true remains to be seen as well because i'm where i'm actually concerned is about the
00:42:22.440
child and i'm pretty surprised that the youth protection didn't act and do something about it because
00:42:28.600
the child is being exposed to violence and to this kind of really extremist behavior and extremist
00:42:34.840
ideology that is behind all this um i i can't speak to that um i know that um when there is an arrest
00:42:46.440
made and certainly in this latest case um it happened in front of the daughter um so i i believe just
00:42:55.240
uh as a matter of course um certain agencies would be involved or brought into that conversation um
00:43:04.680
you know i i i don't know any custody i i can't speak to it um but i agree with the overall or general
00:43:11.800
sentiment um that you know this is it's disturbing to see a parent put their child in these sorts of
00:43:31.720
equip the child with that could bring on others um you know does this consent in a meaningful way i don't
00:43:42.920
know mm-hmm yeah i really when you mentioned physical and emotional harm of others that's
00:43:49.800
where my mind immediately went to what about the child that's being subjected to this kind of behavior
00:43:55.640
and i just i also wanted to throw to your one of your ex posts crema um this is from august of last year
00:44:04.520
where dina says don't worry about my daughter in response to ezra asking just that very same question
00:44:20.440
i feel bad for your daughter oh don't worry about my daughter i feel bad for every everybody that's in
00:44:28.520
in your life and i think walking away is probably one of the most
00:44:36.440
conductive things you can do when someone is engaging in such aggressive behavior um out in
00:44:56.360
public and she was on released on bail at the time of this encounter yes and this was happening just
00:45:04.680
outside of the courthouse just to be perfectly clear that is the ottawa courthouse that this
00:45:10.600
encounter took place yeah kareem is there anything that we haven't quite touched on that you'd like to
00:45:15.320
get across to the public as you um continue to follow the protest circuit um i would say that um dina is not
00:45:23.720
alone in the tactics employed she's maybe an extreme example um but there are many others out there who
00:45:32.600
follow um similar tactics or patterns of behavior and who justify this amongst themselves um through
00:45:42.840
sort of convoluted logic i would say um and you know i would connect this to groups like the canadian
00:45:49.480
anti-hate network um that put targets on certain groups of individuals um almost as though it would
00:45:59.320
then be appropriate to take this kind of action and even if the anti-hate network falls short of giving
00:46:07.320
those explicit directives from its own official channels um some of the anonymous accounts that orbit
00:46:15.720
this group um and certainly the people who um support its messaging uh do seem to draw that conclusion
00:46:22.840
and so the extent to which our taxpayer dollars are in fact um propelling or subsidizing um this type of
00:46:34.680
really anti-social behavior that that only leads to more polarization um you know that that is a cause for
00:46:42.280
concern for all canadians and appreciate and just for finishing uh for the people who don't know you
00:46:49.160
uh where they can follow your work yeah um so my name is karima sad um i am primarily on twitter um
00:46:57.480
at the handle karima rules c-a-r-y-m-a-r-u-l-e-s um but if you google sad lawyer toronto um you'll find me
00:47:06.520
great thanks so much karima and stay safe out there yeah thank you take care thank you
00:47:14.200
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being inappropriate at pools beaches public spaces and um staring jeering uh and taking photographs
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and or videos of women and young girls in you know things like their bathing suits so i shared a story
00:54:29.480
where we had that happen to us on the beach um and this klagen says that the best way
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and this was in response to me saying like i was pointing them out and staring them down but i had
00:54:42.600
my toddler also trying to wrangle some kids didn't want to be super confrontational um especially with
00:54:48.680
my kids in tow so they say the best way is to loudly warn your children about dangerous predators in
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hearing distance of the offenders and as many people as possible so i actually was doing this so when my
00:55:02.120
daughter recognized that i was staring at those other people she had said why are you staring at
00:55:07.960
them i said because they're staring at us and i made sure i was saying all of this really loudly
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and i told her if someone is staring at you in public or they're making you feel uncomfortable in
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public you do whatever you can to make them feel equally as uncomfortable back and i was saying
00:55:23.880
all of these things i mean they were about 20 feet away so i don't know if they could hear me there
00:55:27.400
weren't a lot of people at the beach it was in the evening so it wasn't like a packed house down there
00:55:32.760
which it normally is throughout the throughout the day um so i don't know if anyone necessarily was in
00:55:39.240
earshot but i was certainly not being timid like i that is not who i am as a person i am very much
00:55:46.360
a um you know a cordial polite individual but when something is unjust or disturbing or deserves to be
00:55:55.560
called out i do not hesitate to do that so um i was very much like puffing out my chest you know
00:56:03.560
if i was a predator a predatory bird i would have been fluffing up my feathers um i was making it very
00:56:09.880
clear that i could see what they were doing that i was was not okay with what they were doing and it
00:56:15.240
was not deterring them at all which is what made me feel increasingly disturbed and uncomfortable
00:56:21.400
because normally out in a public space you're staring someone down they're going to say like
00:56:27.000
like what is your problem or what's going on here or you know they'll leave or turn the other way that
00:56:33.320
was not happening here these these guys seemed to be emboldened by the fact that i knew what they were
00:56:40.280
doing and was staring them down um so that is definitely when when i started to get increasingly
00:56:46.760
concerned and called and flagged my husband uh over so yeah absolutely i agree loudly um get your get
00:56:55.640
your back up absolutely out in public and keep your head on a swivel like our our we come from a high
00:57:01.800
trust society and i was raised you know we didn't have to worry about these kinds of things out in public
00:57:07.000
and now we do and we also have to teach our children and warn them to be aware of their surroundings
00:57:12.120
and to keep their head on a swivel um and so that's sad but it's also a really important life lesson
00:57:19.000
and so we definitely had a more robust conversation thereafter with the kids about those sorts of things
00:57:25.000
and what to keep your eye out for when you're out in public and yeah normal people would become
00:57:30.760
unsettled or uncomfortable if you were staring them down the way that i was staring these guys down
00:57:35.480
and they were not deterred at all so uh that being said we're about a minute left and was there anything
00:57:44.280
else in the headlines alexa that you wanted to chat about or touch on before we wrap this up
00:57:50.360
i would say um i really like um andrew layton uh bill c 218 but also i liked uh about what is
00:58:03.480
is going on at our border so i let you judge what what you want to address well i also think that we
00:58:11.320
we um hit quickly in the opening that trump was backing female sports and trying to preserve female
00:58:19.560
sports so let's maybe just get to that one since we did mention it in the beginning uh this comes from
00:58:24.120
ctv news the trump administration has decided to in uh sue california over transgender athlete policies
00:58:36.280
and so he sued the department of education yesterday on wednesday for allowing transgender girls to compete
00:58:44.040
on girls sports team and in court he will be alleging that the policy violates federal law and so um
00:58:53.480
this lawsuit was filed obviously by the u.s department the justice department um it says that these
00:58:59.720
policies violate title i think it's title six um i'm terrible with roman numerals um that's the
00:59:06.520
i think it's title nine thank you yes i had my nine and six reversed um title nine that's the federal law
00:59:14.280
that bans discrimination in education based on sex and of course that was one of the earliest things that
00:59:21.320
trump did when he regained office in january um they say that the california's rules are not only illegal
00:59:28.760
and unfair but also demeaning signaling to girls that their opportunities and achievements are secondary
00:59:35.560
to accommodating boys i i mean and i think that really nails it that's the heart of having sex segregated
00:59:45.000
sports is that males have an innate biological advantage against female athletes because of biological
00:59:53.960
differences like bone density um and so we have these rules and these these clearly defined segregated
01:00:04.920
teams for a reason and allowing men into women's sports and to beat them out at you know things like their
01:00:14.600
speed or the the top the top whatever that that is going to mark a um what's the word that i'm looking for
01:00:28.520
uh a new record that a girl or a woman will never be able to properly and appropriately challenge because
01:00:35.080
we just don't have that strength to ever meet that threshold again and so you hear all the time of
01:00:41.560
these men making new world records or records for women swimming or or jumping or late weightlifting
01:00:49.160
and those are categories now that a woman a biological woman will never surpass despite training you know her entire
01:00:57.800
life or relentlessly and it's so unjust and it's so unfair and it's actually refreshing to me to see a leader
01:01:07.000
actually lead on this file for once rather than cower and kowtow um out of fear of being called you know
01:01:13.080
like a transphobe or a bigot because women that i speak to who are being beat out in these categories
01:01:20.520
they want fairness to be restored and they don't want their sport taken over by men pretending to be women
01:01:26.680
and you're totally right because it would just kill the uh woman's sport no woman would want to practice
01:01:37.480
any sport anymore they would just say how how can i reach and beat the record it's impossible so why i'm
01:01:46.520
doing this why i would spend all my money my education to go further in something that i'm going to fail anyway
01:01:54.040
yeah exactly exactly and um hopefully we'll start to see some of these these changes happen closer to
01:02:02.440
home here in canada and i mean i think there's a very realistic and logical way to get around all
01:02:07.640
this make its own category if you want to be transgender you want to identify as whatever you
01:02:13.320
have your own category keep women's sports women keep men's sports men and if you want to have your own
01:02:19.560
transgendered category where you compete in and amongst yourselves and i don't know what kind of
01:02:24.280
criteria like to me it would be a complete clown show but regardless you can have your own category
01:02:30.680
whatever you want to identify as have at it but let's let's keep these sports as they should be
01:02:38.040
defined by biology and that's male and female exactly all right moving on our last topic uh
01:02:49.000
is our daily dose of cringe and um we have this 46 second clip from our new prime minister mark
01:02:59.960
carney where he wants to spend less to invest more let's have a look at this i have a simple rule
01:03:09.720
spend less invest more let's say you buy a home the down payment and the mortgage cost a lot up front
01:03:15.160
but your home builds value over time that's an investment now you still have other bills like
01:03:19.880
heat and electricity you need them but they don't make you better off in the long run those are
01:03:25.080
operational expenses i will balance our operational budget in three years we'll spend what we need to
01:03:31.720
with the money we already have and we'll do things that encourage the big investments that create jobs
01:03:37.560
and grow our economy like building millions of homes making canada a clean energy superpower and creating
01:03:44.360
new trade routes so we're not dependent on the united states spend less invest more
01:03:52.280
i'm actually a little bit like i it's something i don't understand because it's not him that he
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is actually spending more than trudeau currently yeah well that's what i i was just going to say
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where's the budget mark carney we don't have a budget like his government has not tabled a budget
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um and instead of saying you know what parliament's been prorogued for and not even sitting for that
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vast majority of the last year ish six months for sure um so we're going to delay our summer recess so
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that we can table canadians a budget because in these tumultuous times these economic times canadians
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deserve to have a budget instead of doing that mark carney was like yeah i think we're gonna get to it
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in the fall um so stay tuned but i'm gonna head on to vacation now so you know see ya and then you know
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he says things like we it's time we're going to spend less so we can invest more and again i just keep
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coming back to where is the budget and i loved that chris stacy pointed out in the comments we're running
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a 92 billion dollar deficit which is higher than the trudeau government projected by the way um how is
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that spending less yeah i mean the the proof is quite literally in the pudding um so we're not actually
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spending any less we're spending record amounts on interest only on that deficit so we're none of
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this makes sense i we're not spending any less we're spending way more on interest we don't have a
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budget the budget has been balanced in over i mean since trudeau's reign of terror and arguably
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um for the last i think it was 12 ish years you'd have to source back to the canadian taxpayers
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federation which follows all of that so closely but um he also says in there the sneaky little bit
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at the end create new trade routes so we are less dependent on the us that is how we would spend less
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and make more is to further strengthen those trade routes with the us they are quite literally
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our bordering neighbor how is anything going to be less expensive than just strengthening
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the trade routes that we already have with our southern border strongest ally historically and
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biggest trade partner um we're undoubtedly going to need to spend more if we're creating new trade routes
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abroad with europe who carney is attempting to align canada more with the european union than he is to
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the united states so this is full of orwellian doublespeak and um i see in the comments that
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a lot of people are seeing through it so i love to see that but i don't know how much it's going to
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actually change anything with this government i think uh economically it's not going to go well
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but we all know we all see it it's all coming we see how it goes yeah well everyone was like elbows up
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canada we have a former central banker and he's going to get us out of this mess yay carney and this is
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the additional mess that he is creating so once again i think that canadians will not wake up and
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start to pay attention until it hits them where it really hurts which is their pocketbooks and that
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is increasingly happening um many canadians were hoping or or misled rather by our compromised
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mainstream media the carney would be the guy that would turn that ship around and now they're seeing
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that that isn't actually coming to fruition so elbows are really down um these days and with that
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our stream concludes so thanks everybody for joining us today i think it will be sheila back again
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tomorrow same time and place 1 to 2 p.m eastern for rebel roundup our daily live stream thank you to
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everybody behind the scenes who make sure that the links and the stream runs seamlessly and smoothly
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thanks alexa for hopping on today so sheila could tend to some business and um for everyone out there
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who's watching this stream thank you for your support uh who's watching our governments like mark carney
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with his double speak please just hang on to your critical thinking caps because we increasingly
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are going to need them stay tuned for more next time yeah