Rebel News Podcast - REBEL ROUNDUP ｜ 'Foreigners' stare at pool, Violent far-left protester, Trump defends women's sports

00:00:00.000 All right. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Rebel Roundup, our daily live stream where we bring

00:00:10.860 you the news of the day, completely unscripted and sometimes painfully live. It's Thursday,

00:00:17.100 July the 10th. I am your host, Tamara Ugolini, and I'm joined today by my co-host and colleague

00:00:24.860 and friend, Alexa Lavoie out of Quebec. Alexa, how are you doing over there?

00:00:30.000 I'm pretty good. And you?

00:00:32.380 Good. Doing well. Thank you. Enjoying this summer weather that we're having. Nice warm spurt after

00:00:37.940 a couple of days of it being cold. We, as always, have a ton of topics to bring you today. We'll be

00:00:45.000 chatting about foreigners staring at women and children in the pool, some violent far left

00:00:53.000 protester happenings, and an update with a special guest today. I think they're joining about 1.30

00:00:58.340 and we might get some other headlines such as Trump defending women's sports. And here in Canada,

00:01:04.700 we're defending women in the pools. So we'll showcase and highlight some of Alexa's exclusive 0.52

00:01:11.100 independent reporting out in the field, in the wild, as we like to say. First and foremost,

00:01:18.560 though, we have an update right off the top from the Independent Press Gallery that has condemned the

00:01:25.600 Montreal Police's treatment of you, Alexa, in the field over the weekend. You were threatened

00:01:32.440 with arrest. You were physically obstructed from doing your job, which was reporting on and recording

00:01:39.700 public demonstration in front of the Notre Dame Basilica. So I'll just highlight a couple of points

00:01:47.180 from this press release, if my computer will let me zoom in closer on it, which of course it won't.

00:01:55.860 But anyway, the gist of it, I already stated, you know, that the police were trying to restrict

00:02:03.400 and prohibit you from recording. And this is obviously a topic that is in the public interest

00:02:11.780 and has great political significance, these gatherings. And so about the third paragraph,

00:02:17.520 I just want to highlight this. Ms. Lavoie was ordered to leave the area by the SVPM officers told 0.79

00:02:24.040 to stop creating an event and threatened with arrest for obstruction while simply filming.

00:02:31.720 Meanwhile, demonstrators were allowed to block her camera with signs and flags and engage in hostile

00:02:36.760 behavior, completely unchallenged by law enforcement. Alexa, I think we have a clip of this report,

00:02:45.600 which will be coming out later today. But the crazy part to me is that not only did you have to deal

00:02:51.120 with such hostility from the actual protesters in the event that you were covering, but then you had

00:02:57.300 to have, it was like a double whammy, where the police were then being hostile and trying to further

00:03:02.180 obstruct you from doing your job? What was even happening there? And I actually, I was really

00:03:08.460 surprised because at one point they say, oh, let them pray, let them pray. I was not there for stopping

00:03:14.220 them of praying. I was there to record their prayer. And at one point, one police say like,

00:03:21.160 I do not even understand why she's filming this. First of all, it's not you to decide what I'm filming

00:03:28.280 or not. I'm doing my journalism. I'm doing this because this is a newsworthy, especially with

00:03:35.280 the public prayer ban that Francois Legault wants to put in place. And at one point, who was obstructing

00:03:46.240 me the most was the police officers. It was not even like, okay, the protesters were violent,

00:03:54.880 but the police were literally pulling me out of the place physically at multiple occasions.

00:04:01.880 And at one point, one of the police that was the other side of the street ran to the other

00:04:09.880 side to pull my backpack and to pull me out. And it was like, I was just filming on top of

00:04:16.880 the car because they were filming. Obviously, they use a truck to hide themselves. So I was just trying

00:04:23.880 to pull my camera on in the air for being able to film because obviously they are using signs and flags

00:04:31.880 in front of my camera to obstruct my vision. And I was not doing anything. I was just close to the car,

00:04:39.880 a rental car, by the way. And this was a problem. But I was not interacting with anybody. I was not

00:04:47.880 provoking anybody. I was just filming and doing my job.

00:04:50.880 Well, and I just received word that the video has now been published in its entirety. So if you want

00:04:59.240 to check out that full report from Alexa, what happened over the weekend between these protesters

00:05:05.120 and the Montreal police, you can do that at standwithalexa.com. There will be legal fees and

00:05:13.380 there are existing legal fees mounting with the Montreal police. It looks like there will be more.

00:05:20.120 And so if you want to support Alexa in her endeavors to simply be out in the streets and

00:05:26.420 report and film things in public spaces that are of great public interest, you can do that at

00:05:32.400 standwithalexa.com. Make sure that you check out the full report there as well to see all of the

00:05:39.020 nitty gritty, what exactly is happening in the streets of Montreal. And again, like this is a Catholic 1.00

00:05:45.300 church. This isn't a mosque. This is a sign of, I would say, domination and showing to the public, 1.00

00:05:54.600 we can do whatever we want with indemnity. And you can't even be here to film any of it. Because

00:06:02.640 the police will have our backs. And they will accost you just as we the protesters are similarly doing.

00:06:09.940 And by the way, because if it's not at the cenotaph, sometimes they are going to go in front of the

00:06:18.360 cenotaph. But if it's not the basilica, it would be the cenotaph that represent the veteran who die

00:06:23.920 for our democracy, for our country. Or they will go in front of different consulates to show again their

00:06:32.340 domination over not only Canada, but the US and Israel and the religion that is Christianism.

00:06:40.420 And it really, I tried to reach out to the DRCs of Montreal, to ask them a couple of questions.

00:06:49.940 I didn't receive any reply from them. Obviously, they will probably not comment on another religion,

00:06:55.700 just for avoiding any backlash or anything like that. But imagine if

00:07:02.340 if a lot of Christians decide to go and pray in front of a mosque. I'm really, really, really, really,

00:07:11.460 you know, interested to know how everything turns out and how they would portray this peaceful,

00:07:20.740 you know, like praying in front. We know that Christians have been under attack

00:07:26.500 this recently and over the past few years. So, of course, like nobody would do that because it's

00:07:35.300 respectful, point, period.

00:07:37.620 Yeah, the disrespect and also the hypocrisy, like what, as you rightfully point out, what would happen

00:07:45.060 if the tables were turned? And hey, maybe that's where we're at, that we need to see it play out

00:07:51.620 in real time. What would the response be like and what would happen? But I don't think that Catholics 1.00

00:07:57.860 have, they don't care enough to engage in that kind of disrespectful, dominating behavior. You know,

00:08:07.460 they're just wanting to practice their religion in peace and live in harmony. They're not looking to

00:08:14.020 ruffle any feathers or rile anybody up. And that, sadly, is the difference that you see there.

00:08:20.420 But the reaction from the police is like a whole other issue in and of itself. And that's why

00:08:28.740 there will be some legal endeavors moving forward as you continue to fight with the Montreal police

00:08:36.420 simply to uphold the ability and that is simply the freedom of the press, right? Why can these people

00:08:44.340 are out in public? They're in the public square. This is a public interest topic. And we're going to

00:08:50.100 report on it. And I think the police are not, or have not, in previous years, been able to testify

00:08:59.620 to their reasoning behind telling someone, like a journalist, to move along or you can't film here.

00:09:05.300 They're so used to people just kowtowing, caving, saying, oh, okay, yeah, sure, no, no,

00:09:10.180 and moving along. They're not used to having that pushback to say, no, I know my rights. I have

00:09:17.300 the responsibility to bring the public this story and I'm going to continue filming it. And they're

00:09:24.020 not used to that pushback.

00:09:25.860 And I'm pretty surprised because the chief of police, his name is new. I think he's been in place

00:09:32.100 since 2022, 2023. I don't really recall when he got in place, but it was mainly by Mayor Valéry Blanc.

00:09:41.780 But his name is Fadi Daguerre. He's a Lebanese-Canadian, but I've been told that he's a Christian.

00:09:48.820 So I'm really surprised that he's letting all this going forward, knowing that how Christians have 1.00

00:09:57.060 been persecuted, how Muslim, not Muslim, but like radical Islam have actually invaded some places, 0.68

00:10:05.620 like in the Middle East and et cetera. I'm pretty surprised to see that there is no, no,

00:10:14.580 no action being taken at all. Like they are letting them doing whatever they want.

00:10:20.260 They don't have any repercussion. If they hit someone, they are not going to stop them

00:10:25.860 because you will see in the video, Guillaume had been attacked. His camera almost like being

00:10:33.940 thrown into the ground in front of the police and the police did actually nothing again and again.

00:10:41.060 So it seems like they, it's not seen. There is a two-tier policing and there is a double standard of

00:10:48.900 how we are treating alternative media and how we are treating those protesters.

00:10:53.700 A hundred percent. And it keeps becoming more and more clear. And so before we move on from

00:11:00.260 this topic, let's just throw to a quick teaser of this full report. And of course,

00:11:04.900 if you want to support Alexa's work and see the full interaction, you can go to standwithalexa.com.

00:11:10.340 But here's the teaser.

00:11:15.140 Hey! 0.99

00:11:21.700 Hey! 0.99

00:11:23.700 Don't touch your camera.

00:11:24.740 Hey! 0.99

00:11:26.740 Don't. Donnez-moi une seconde.

00:11:30.340 Non, ne me touchez pas. Non!

00:11:32.740 Vous n'avez pas le droit de me toucher! Vous n'avez pas le droit de me toucher!

00:11:36.740 Hey! T'as pas le droit de me toucher!

00:11:40.900 OK, je te celle là.

00:11:47.900 OK!

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00:11:59.900 it's so angering to see that play out um and the way that you're treated alexa but thanks for your

00:12:13.700 bravery and continuing to bring us this kind of footage because i think without your work some

00:12:19.120 of these other round tables and conference discussions on extremism in canada well they

00:12:24.640 wouldn't have anything to source back to so thank you for your original independent reporting on this

00:12:31.760 topic it um certainly doesn't go unnoticed by us um so we also have more independent original reporting

00:12:41.140 from you alexa where the community has spoken out against i mean you call them alleged foreigners

00:12:48.040 but i think the visuals are pretty clear staring at females and children at the local swimming pool

00:12:57.660 uh maybe let's just play the cold open of this report and then i'll get you to expand a little

00:13:03.020 bit more on what's happening did you see an increase of this new it's not really new but

00:13:13.480 this phenomenon increasing with the fact that we receive a massive uh new immigrants here in

00:13:20.600 quebec and in canada i wouldn't say so i don't think there's a correlation between race and like

00:13:27.400 that movement now but i think in europe it's been for decades that it exists this problem

00:13:31.480 there it's important to say no uh le québec and canada are a very open culture but there are

00:13:37.960 things that need to say no it's not racist to say no to certain things and then i would

00:13:43.960 like to say that the feminists the feminists they say enough to say that they have a double standard 1.00

00:13:49.080 where they would say that it's like oh no we don't want to talk about that because it's racist

00:13:53.240 to not have a fear to denouncement i think that people have been a lot retened by the

00:13:58.200 part and the part of being treated as racist or intolerant but it's not a question of racism or

00:14:05.960 intolerance c'est tolérance zéro pour tout le monde d'agir la sorte avec mass immigration has brought many

00:14:15.800 challenges and what i'm about to show you is one of the most concerning women and children no longer

00:14:23.880 feel safe incidents of staring groping and inappropriate behavior have been reported

00:14:31.320 multiple times right here in montreal's public swimming pools

00:14:39.560 yeah that the fact that everybody gets called racist for as that woman points out rightfully 1.00

00:14:45.000 points out calling out inappropriate behavior is the absolute bananas upside down world that we're

00:14:52.200 living in i think no matter across cultural race lines if you are here in canada and there is

00:14:59.560 inappropriate behavior taking place it needs to be called out every single time we need to stop being

00:15:07.160 fearful of these ridiculous labels that just get thrown around and tossed around as though they don't

00:15:11.960 mean anything anymore like these people are obviously not racist they're just trying to protect the

00:15:17.400 the pool public swimming space so that women and girls and children can be comfortable to swim at them

00:15:23.800 this is this is not racism at all and we need to make a difference in between race and culture

00:15:31.960 it's completely different we it's not the same thing and the we are talking to a specific type of culture

00:15:40.840 of a voyeurism of staring at of groping and there is older uh women who have reported to receive

00:15:50.680 um balls like you know balls in the face at the pool because i know which kind of behavior it's like an

00:15:59.160 extension of themselves so if the ball is actually touching a woman it's kind of like the same kind of 0.96

00:16:05.160 feeling as if you touch the woman yourself so there is multiple incidents and it's growing it's not new um

00:16:15.240 it's been years that some women have refused to go to that uh public school uh public pool 1.00

00:16:23.320 and it's not just women it's children also so imagine being a a mother you go to a public pool 0.98

00:16:33.000 with your children and your children is being stared at and how they were describing me uh how they

00:16:39.800 are acting sometimes they are sitting in the grass they are splitting to things like they are not in

00:16:45.320 group and sometimes they will go to the fence and they will grab the fence and just look inside of the

00:16:51.240 fence like that and not move at all and sometimes they are going inside of the public pool and sometimes

00:16:58.600 it's happening in the water that they are grouping and they are like kind of doing inappropriate

00:17:05.480 behavior and sometimes it's also like invading um the private space like sitting on the towel of the

00:17:11.960 woman trying to engage with them they cannot take a no for as an answer they will just continue again

00:17:18.680 and again and again and harass some women have been reported with their children where they're i don't 1.00

00:17:24.440 know how you call it like a puss puss like a for for pushing like the baby the the strainer 0.99

00:17:32.920 and they had to scream no get away from me imagine like now this park is not it's not safe anymore 0.86

00:17:43.400 but it's not just that park it's everywhere in all public spaces that is happening it's just now there

00:17:51.080 is a lot of complaint in one specific area but it's happening in other provinces in other public

00:17:58.520 spaces and uh you actually share and i'm sorry for what happened to you but i i saw your uh testimony

00:18:07.160 online and i'm sorry and i would love like people to know what happened yeah so this actually happened to

00:18:13.400 me last year at my local beach the coburg beach um and at first i i was kind of

00:18:21.080 second guessing myself like am i reading too much into what's happening but as i looked into it

00:18:26.760 further as i see more reports this textbook happened to at the time my nine year old daughter at the

00:18:34.600 beach and so a group of guys and immediately my alarm bell started going off because there was four men

00:18:40.760 that approached on the beach and they were fully clothed in running shoes they didn't have towels they

00:18:45.480 didn't have sandals on like they were obviously sticking out like a sore thumb at the beach where

00:18:50.760 you're generally in your bathing suits um and ready to you know head into the water so they obviously

00:18:59.880 were not dressed appropriately for the beach right off the bat and my husband was probably about 50 feet

00:19:05.320 away throwing around a football with our sons and um i had my at the time nine year old and she was

00:19:11.880 digging in the sand building sand castles and then i also had my toddler who you know i was obviously

00:19:16.840 keeping a close eye on both of them and so i saw this group of of men come onto the beach and

00:19:23.400 immediately i'm watching because they stick out like a sore thumb so i'm like this is really weird

00:19:28.280 what's going on here so they sit down and again they don't have towels or anything so they're just

00:19:31.800 sitting in the sand fully clothed about i would say probably 20 feet away from us so i'm keeping

00:19:36.840 an eye on my daughter my other toddler who's kind of closer to the water's edge and then i'm

00:19:41.480 out of the corner of my eye keeping an eye on my other kids playing football with my husband and

00:19:46.200 these guys are snickering they're jeering they're staring the staring was the so unsettling because it

00:19:54.440 was relentless they did not let up the staring so i'm staring them back and generally speaking when

00:20:01.480 you stare people down they become uncomfortable they move away you know there would be some sort

00:20:07.880 of response their response to my staring them down was to continue laughing sneering jeering and then

00:20:17.240 they get a phone out and they start photographing or perhaps videoing and at that point my daughter

00:20:23.160 kind of noticed that i was acting a little bit unusual and she's like why are you staring at that group

00:20:29.880 of men and i said because they're staring at us and when people stare at you in public and if they're

00:20:34.600 making you feel uncomfortable then you stare right back at them and usually they would feel similarly

00:20:42.280 uncomfortable but these guys were not and so this went on probably for about five minutes or so and

00:20:48.360 again i'm keeping it on my toddler as well so um i couldn't just leave him and go approach them but my

00:20:54.200 mama bear was firing and so finally i said to my daughter go get dad ask him just to come back over 1.00

00:21:01.640 here and um this is really making me feel unsettled and and creepy and i'm not comfortable anymore and

00:21:08.760 as soon as my husband walked over and i pointed them out and he looked over they got up and scurried off

00:21:17.160 and like it was almost instant that they picked up and left the beach completely and so i we both

00:21:25.000 stared them down as they left the beach and then as we were leaving i was just kind of keeping an eye

00:21:29.880 out to see you know where they had went to or if we could find them again or warn other parents perhaps

00:21:35.320 but we didn't see them again so this is happening everywhere and it happened to me and it is extremely

00:21:42.680 creepy it is very unsettling and now seeing more and more reports of this i regret not approaching

00:21:48.920 them or calling it out more kind of vigorously but um you know when you're wrangling a few kids

00:21:55.240 at a beach it can be hard and you and you kind of want to be careful how you approach or confront

00:22:00.600 those situations but i think that absolutely we need to call this out warn others every single time

00:22:07.320 because this is not okay what is happening and you know like um the the person who actually organized

00:22:14.440 like the citizen movement was organized by the farland and they arrived there and when i questioned

00:22:21.880 them about you know the problem of culture and immigration that are not being adequately integrated

00:22:30.200 in the society because we receive too much they say oh no it's not a problem of race it's not

00:22:36.200 a problem of culture it's a problem of patriarchy and i was like no it's not a problem of patriarchy

00:22:42.440 and the thing is it was the only one with that line of thinking like uh the other people who actually

00:22:49.640 arrived afterwards they they actually agree with my question about it and you see i saw afterwards on

00:22:57.000 reddit that they say that we came with our racist agenda um and that same the media the mainstream

00:23:05.640 media didn't report at all that that it was actually a problem of mass immigration not well integrated

00:23:14.120 that they feel that they can do the same behavior that at home for a woman that i've been traveling for

00:23:20.200 three months and a half in india and other country in south asia myself i was victim of sexually

00:23:30.120 um attacked um attacked like uh touching everywhere uh i've been stared at i've been followed i've been

00:23:38.440 arrested um and i had to also bring the security to stop a man to enter to my hostel at one point

00:23:46.600 uh so if we are continuing to bring people in that are not integrated who feel that they can do whatever they want

00:23:58.120 without any repercussion this problem is going to be worse and i'm so sorry for what happened to you

00:24:05.720 and your daughter and i hope your daughter i didn't actually notice that and i hope that she's not

00:24:11.160 traumatized by it oh she did she fully noticed and she as soon as she noticed and we started feeling

00:24:19.960 uncomfortable that's when i said you know go get dad because i need another adult so i can keep an eye on

00:24:24.840 the toddler and we can continue kind of like unabatedly playing in the sand and the i wasn't

00:24:32.360 expecting it to them to get up and leave immediately when they saw my husband come over immediately their

00:24:38.120 phones went away they got up and they left and i thought because i thought if one of us needs to go

00:24:43.240 and confront these individuals and i can't leave my toddler to go do that so um but they left i mean

00:24:51.320 and it just shows the the glaring disrespect and disregard for women when they're treated with

00:24:56.680 such disdain and like objects because as soon as a man came over they got up and left and i had been

00:25:02.280 staring these guys down like and i'm and i have a pretty good uh good death stare and they knew i knew

00:25:09.880 what they were doing and they were completely unfazed and also seemed eerily uh provoked by it like they they

00:25:19.720 liked that i knew what they were doing and i was and i couldn't necessarily do anything about it

00:25:26.440 and so that was really disturbing and unsettling and that's why i say we need to call this out every

00:25:32.920 single time and warn others because it's not in your imagination you're not uh you don't need to

00:25:38.200 double think this if you see somebody staring down your young child and potentially taking photos or videos

00:25:44.120 of them you call that out every single time um i just wanted to get to a one quick rumble rant

00:25:50.840 because i know we may have our guests joining in a few minutes this was back uh when we were discussing

00:25:55.800 about your reporting at the cathedral and again if you want to see that report you can head to

00:26:00.760 stand with alexa.com um peace pisco pisco field 10 pc p s co 10 gives five dollars these cops in front of 0.98

00:26:10.760 the cathedral are a disgrace if this were 1940 and france they would have been supporters of pittin and 0.60

00:26:19.240 the vichy government yeah it's the the lack of historical reference or context that people seem to have these

00:26:29.480 days um it's astounding to me like people you know the covid response really shone a light on that

00:26:36.920 people are still cheering on like oh you disregarded lockdown orders and gathering restrictions well good

00:26:45.720 shame on you for disregarding the government's edicts and public health diktats because they were

00:26:52.360 that's the law and you should just unquestion unquestionably abide by it people i don't know what

00:26:59.160 it is that separates one from the other where where someone can see through the nonsense and another

00:27:03.960 person says please govern me harder um you see it still playing out in the streets and i don't know

00:27:11.480 what psychologically that is that makes one person question and another person adhere um but let's

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00:29:44.600 all right hey everyone welcome back and joining us we have karima sad she's a toronto-based lawyer 0.98

00:30:00.680 political cartoonist and i suppose in a way accidental journalist who's been covering the um protest mania

00:30:08.920 as you put it unfolding on the streets of canada throughout the last few years and it's really

00:30:16.360 come to a head and shone a light on some of the aggressive tactics that have been deployed by

00:30:23.240 those you know who we would traditionally say are the far the left or in certain cases the far left

00:30:29.320 and um recently one of these individuals deanna sheriff sheriff i think is the pronunciation of her last

00:30:37.480 name um she has been engaged in extremely aggressive behavior and intimidation tactics throughout kind of 1.00

00:30:45.320 the protest circuit um in ottawa and she was just found guilty of causing a disturbance with what the

00:30:54.120 mainstream media and this one here comes from this headline is from cbc news the media says used a

00:31:00.680 squeaky toy to cause this disturbance cream as someone who's been subjected to these tactics and the

00:31:09.800 aggressive sound violence i would i would even say deployed by these individuals how do you respond

00:31:17.480 to the claim that this was just merely a squeaky toy it's technically correct her instrument of choice

00:31:23.880 that day was a squeaky toy um what is important for audience or readers to understand that they

00:31:31.400 wouldn't necessarily glean from that headline is at the time of this incident um dina was already on

00:31:38.840 bail for other serious charges related to protest behavior uh including the alleged use of um a sound

00:31:49.880 weapon um and that one would have been an electronic sound weapon so the one of her bail conditions was

00:31:56.520 specifically not to use for the sole purpose of emitting or projecting sound um that kind of an

00:32:05.480 instrument and so this trial centered on well was a squeaky toy an instrument contemplated by

00:32:14.360 those bail conditions and separate apart from just squeaking a toy um there is 22 minutes or so of

00:32:23.320 footage that comes from her own live stream that depicts the uh the events that unfolded um on the

00:32:31.000 day in question while again she was already on bail and so causing a disturbance partly related to the

00:32:37.560 squeaky toy but also had to do with very aggressive um intimidating language um you know following

00:32:46.440 getting in people's faces um that had you know goes beyond just um this little uh dog toy

00:32:55.880 because me oh because me um she actually used that uh electronic uh noise weapon and i can say that it is 0.89

00:33:06.840 really painful and it can actually make someone deaf um just by the sound it's really powerful it's not

00:33:13.880 something like really light to use and especially in in front of his own children

00:33:21.720 not just in front of her child but she's also used her child to use that device um and that's been

00:33:29.960 against adult strangers against police and bylaw um and we haven't seen any enforcement um her initial

00:33:38.520 set of charges came about um in part i believe because um some of the alleged victims were a police

00:33:46.840 officer and a politician but the same behavior that was um observed or alleged on that day has been

00:33:54.680 documented countless times prior to that um and of course there was a brief period between um

00:34:03.400 initially being in jail on that first set of charges and then released on a bail review and then put back

00:34:09.400 in jail um for uh now we can say violating those bail conditions um where there was still ongoing

00:34:17.960 questionable behavior um so we really do see that um law enforcement on the ground um can be selective

00:34:28.840 about what they consider to be problematic behavior at protests um and it leads to an uneven unfair

00:34:38.760 enforcement it puts people at risk um in this particular case it was heard before a judge um you

00:34:45.400 know the evidence was presented and he came to the conclusion that uh she was guilty on two of the three

00:34:52.440 charges yeah here it says also in this article in april of 2024 she was arrested charged with eight

00:35:00.280 offenses including obstruct police two counts of assault with a weapon possession of a weapon dangerous

00:35:05.000 to the public intimidation and two counts of hate motivated harassment do you have an update or do you

00:35:11.240 know of any of the outcomes is that still before the courts yes that is set to be heard in january of

00:35:19.720 2026 um the crown is proceeding by indictment on those charges so that is you know the most serious way in

00:35:27.560 which um a charge can be dealt with um there was at one point indication that um it would be a trial by jury

00:35:36.520 um she's changed counsel since then so i don't know if that will still be the case or if they've re-elected

00:35:43.000 um but that's the meat and potatoes of uh of the charges she's she's facing um this most recent trial dealt

00:35:50.760 with the breach and um disturbance while she was out on bail yeah and i think just to give the viewers a

00:35:59.400 little bit more context i see that there's a but we i mean there is no shortage of clips of dina

00:36:04.840 acting this way in the public space and being aggressive um i think i'll pick this one from

00:36:12.760 the x handle mitch whose video depicts uh dina using a squeaky toy to disrupt a cbc interview

00:36:20.760 and then of course ignoring an officer when she's asked to stop let's just show a quick

00:36:27.640 peek at the kind of tactics deployed by dina 0.90

00:36:37.560 and how do you spell it i just want to like have the name of the organization

00:36:50.280 all eyes are on you carl

00:36:52.120 not so tough anymore now that the cameras are on you hey carl hey oh what are you sick of me yet carl 0.98

00:37:06.760 you're fucking sick of me yet carl okay i think that's enough i'm sick of it already and i'm not 0.99

00:37:12.520 even there in person and that was the incident in question so this is what the trial was about and 0.99

00:37:19.720 that was one snippet of the 22 minutes of just total belligerent um you know ungovernable behavior where

00:37:27.720 cops um in my view did try several times to de-escalate to get her out of there without 1.00

00:37:34.600 outlaying charges um and uh faced a a resistance in in the colloquial sense

00:37:44.360 as someone who obviously has is trained and practices law and has been on the ground reporting

00:37:49.640 on these subjects and says yourself you know you can see the two-tier policing that happens on the

00:37:54.280 streets does this recent um report of the guilty of dina being found guilty does that restore any

00:38:02.680 confidence that you have that maybe the tides are turning or that gap of two-tier policing is starting

00:38:08.120 to close um well so there are different kind of phases of enforcement right there's police

00:38:16.520 on the ground and then there's what happens in a prosecution and then ultimately

00:38:21.080 in a courtroom and so human error means that things can go wrong at anyone or all of those phases

00:38:28.440 um i don't know that this will have a direct impact on what police choose to do on the ground one can

00:38:35.880 hope um that it sends a signal that this type of behavior goes far beyond the parameters of simply

00:38:43.720 voicing dissent or expressing oneself and into the realm of criminal conduct um but what i will say here

00:38:50.760 is that there was a judge who sat through the evidence parsed through it and then came to a conclusion

00:38:58.040 that um you know in my view is quite very sensible um and reflects the the evidence that was put before him

00:39:09.880 has this kind of treatment deterred you at all from continuing to head out into the streets and cover

00:39:15.640 these kinds of uh cultural and political protests i i certainly that's the intent um i don't see any way

00:39:25.720 around that um i'll echo what alexa said earlier that um some of those noise devices are physically

00:39:32.760 painful um and can cause permanent damage um and you know aren't treated with the seriousness or haven't

00:39:40.680 been uh up till this point um that that is deserved um knowing that the intention is to try and intimidate me and

00:39:50.280 others from covering public events in public spaces um i'm perhaps a stubborn person and so you know it

00:39:58.920 hasn't deterred me in the way that um perhaps they would expect i have had to modify um certain things and

00:40:08.120 you know protective ear wear for example things like that that shouldn't be necessary we're not in a war zone

00:40:15.480 um it ought to be possible just to do one's job um and you know in the face of people not wanting

00:40:23.160 me to do my job um that makes me all the more committed to getting that work done and by the way

00:40:30.280 do you think uh if she finally she's found guilty and she will actually have like a harsh sentence or i don't 0.93

00:40:39.400 know what uh will happen but do you think that will deter other far-left activists to maybe not

00:40:47.000 engage in the same kind of behavior or do you think it will not change anything

00:40:52.200 deterrence is one of the goals of sentencing so um one would hope that it does um from some of the

00:41:00.600 comments i've read from people who are aligned with dina um they seem to be considering her kind of a

00:41:08.200 martyr um for the cause and you know that she was unjustly prosecuted and this was all unfair and

00:41:15.960 it's state suppression or repression um which i don't think is really a fair or accurate characterization

00:41:22.280 but um that's one way in which this could not have the intended effect um but for anyone who wants to

00:41:31.720 avoid a criminal record and all of the complications that that brings right as far as travel or family

00:41:40.200 law issues or you know a whole host of employment um hopefully they see this this and don't want to

00:41:48.680 emulate these behaviors and you know protests um that don't involve causing physical

00:42:01.720 or emotional harm to others and so that's the more constructive way to go about it and this this

00:42:09.160 is consequences this is real consequences um is it going to have a deterring effect on dina herself so

00:42:15.480 that's that's true remains to be seen as well because i'm where i'm actually concerned is about the

00:42:22.440 child and i'm pretty surprised that the youth protection didn't act and do something about it because

00:42:28.600 the child is being exposed to violence and to this kind of really extremist behavior and extremist

00:42:34.840 ideology that is behind all this um i i can't speak to that um i know that um when there is an arrest

00:42:46.440 made and certainly in this latest case um it happened in front of the daughter um so i i believe just

00:42:55.240 uh as a matter of course um certain agencies would be involved or brought into that conversation um

00:43:04.680 you know i i i don't know any custody i i can't speak to it um but i agree with the overall or general

00:43:11.800 sentiment um that you know this is it's disturbing to see a parent put their child in these sorts of

00:43:20.040 volatile sometimes violent um landscapes and

00:43:31.720 equip the child with that could bring on others um you know does this consent in a meaningful way i don't

00:43:42.920 know mm-hmm yeah i really when you mentioned physical and emotional harm of others that's

00:43:49.800 where my mind immediately went to what about the child that's being subjected to this kind of behavior

00:43:55.640 and i just i also wanted to throw to your one of your ex posts crema um this is from august of last year

00:44:04.520 where dina says don't worry about my daughter in response to ezra asking just that very same question

00:44:12.520 we can just throw to this quick clip

00:44:20.440 i feel bad for your daughter oh don't worry about my daughter i feel bad for every everybody that's in

00:44:28.520 in your life and i think walking away is probably one of the most

00:44:36.440 conductive things you can do when someone is engaging in such aggressive behavior um out in

00:44:56.360 public and she was on released on bail at the time of this encounter yes and this was happening just

00:45:04.680 outside of the courthouse just to be perfectly clear that is the ottawa courthouse that this

00:45:10.600 encounter took place yeah kareem is there anything that we haven't quite touched on that you'd like to

00:45:15.320 get across to the public as you um continue to follow the protest circuit um i would say that um dina is not

00:45:23.720 alone in the tactics employed she's maybe an extreme example um but there are many others out there who

00:45:32.600 follow um similar tactics or patterns of behavior and who justify this amongst themselves um through

00:45:42.840 sort of convoluted logic i would say um and you know i would connect this to groups like the canadian

00:45:49.480 anti-hate network um that put targets on certain groups of individuals um almost as though it would

00:45:59.320 then be appropriate to take this kind of action and even if the anti-hate network falls short of giving

00:46:07.320 those explicit directives from its own official channels um some of the anonymous accounts that orbit

00:46:15.720 this group um and certainly the people who um support its messaging uh do seem to draw that conclusion

00:46:22.840 and so the extent to which our taxpayer dollars are in fact um propelling or subsidizing um this type of

00:46:34.680 really anti-social behavior that that only leads to more polarization um you know that that is a cause for

00:46:42.280 concern for all canadians and appreciate and just for finishing uh for the people who don't know you

00:46:49.160 uh where they can follow your work yeah um so my name is karima sad um i am primarily on twitter um

00:46:57.480 at the handle karima rules c-a-r-y-m-a-r-u-l-e-s um but if you google sad lawyer toronto um you'll find me

00:47:06.520 great thanks so much karima and stay safe out there yeah thank you take care thank you

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00:53:53.400 support our work keep our journalism afloat and so we can hopefully can also celebrate rebel's 20th

00:53:59.240 birthday in another 10 years but this one comes from rumble it's from klagen 81 gives five dollars

00:54:06.840 and it's in response to the topic that we hit before crema came on which was um foreigners

00:54:13.080 being inappropriate at pools beaches public spaces and um staring jeering uh and taking photographs

00:54:22.600 and or videos of women and young girls in you know things like their bathing suits so i shared a story

00:54:29.480 where we had that happen to us on the beach um and this klagen says that the best way

00:54:37.480 and this was in response to me saying like i was pointing them out and staring them down but i had

00:54:42.600 my toddler also trying to wrangle some kids didn't want to be super confrontational um especially with

00:54:48.680 my kids in tow so they say the best way is to loudly warn your children about dangerous predators in

00:54:56.040 hearing distance of the offenders and as many people as possible so i actually was doing this so when my

00:55:02.120 daughter recognized that i was staring at those other people she had said why are you staring at

00:55:07.960 them i said because they're staring at us and i made sure i was saying all of this really loudly

00:55:12.920 and i told her if someone is staring at you in public or they're making you feel uncomfortable in

00:55:17.400 public you do whatever you can to make them feel equally as uncomfortable back and i was saying

00:55:23.880 all of these things i mean they were about 20 feet away so i don't know if they could hear me there

00:55:27.400 weren't a lot of people at the beach it was in the evening so it wasn't like a packed house down there

00:55:32.760 which it normally is throughout the throughout the day um so i don't know if anyone necessarily was in

00:55:39.240 earshot but i was certainly not being timid like i that is not who i am as a person i am very much

00:55:46.360 a um you know a cordial polite individual but when something is unjust or disturbing or deserves to be

00:55:55.560 called out i do not hesitate to do that so um i was very much like puffing out my chest you know

00:56:03.560 if i was a predator a predatory bird i would have been fluffing up my feathers um i was making it very

00:56:09.880 clear that i could see what they were doing that i was was not okay with what they were doing and it

00:56:15.240 was not deterring them at all which is what made me feel increasingly disturbed and uncomfortable

00:56:21.400 because normally out in a public space you're staring someone down they're going to say like

00:56:27.000 like what is your problem or what's going on here or you know they'll leave or turn the other way that

00:56:33.320 was not happening here these these guys seemed to be emboldened by the fact that i knew what they were

00:56:40.280 doing and was staring them down um so that is definitely when when i started to get increasingly

00:56:46.760 concerned and called and flagged my husband uh over so yeah absolutely i agree loudly um get your get

00:56:55.640 your back up absolutely out in public and keep your head on a swivel like our our we come from a high

00:57:01.800 trust society and i was raised you know we didn't have to worry about these kinds of things out in public

00:57:07.000 and now we do and we also have to teach our children and warn them to be aware of their surroundings

00:57:12.120 and to keep their head on a swivel um and so that's sad but it's also a really important life lesson

00:57:19.000 and so we definitely had a more robust conversation thereafter with the kids about those sorts of things

00:57:25.000 and what to keep your eye out for when you're out in public and yeah normal people would become

00:57:30.760 unsettled or uncomfortable if you were staring them down the way that i was staring these guys down

00:57:35.480 and they were not deterred at all so uh that being said we're about a minute left and was there anything

00:57:44.280 else in the headlines alexa that you wanted to chat about or touch on before we wrap this up

00:57:50.360 i would say um i really like um andrew layton uh bill c 218 but also i liked uh about what is

00:58:03.480 is going on at our border so i let you judge what what you want to address well i also think that we

00:58:11.320 we um hit quickly in the opening that trump was backing female sports and trying to preserve female

00:58:19.560 sports so let's maybe just get to that one since we did mention it in the beginning uh this comes from

00:58:24.120 ctv news the trump administration has decided to in uh sue california over transgender athlete policies

00:58:36.280 and so he sued the department of education yesterday on wednesday for allowing transgender girls to compete

00:58:44.040 on girls sports team and in court he will be alleging that the policy violates federal law and so um

00:58:53.480 this lawsuit was filed obviously by the u.s department the justice department um it says that these

00:58:59.720 policies violate title i think it's title six um i'm terrible with roman numerals um that's the

00:59:06.520 i think it's title nine thank you yes i had my nine and six reversed um title nine that's the federal law

00:59:14.280 that bans discrimination in education based on sex and of course that was one of the earliest things that

00:59:21.320 trump did when he regained office in january um they say that the california's rules are not only illegal

00:59:28.760 and unfair but also demeaning signaling to girls that their opportunities and achievements are secondary

00:59:35.560 to accommodating boys i i mean and i think that really nails it that's the heart of having sex segregated

00:59:45.000 sports is that males have an innate biological advantage against female athletes because of biological 1.00

00:59:53.960 differences like bone density um and so we have these rules and these these clearly defined segregated

01:00:04.920 teams for a reason and allowing men into women's sports and to beat them out at you know things like their 1.00

01:00:14.600 speed or the the top the top whatever that that is going to mark a um what's the word that i'm looking for

01:00:28.520 uh a new record that a girl or a woman will never be able to properly and appropriately challenge because

01:00:35.080 we just don't have that strength to ever meet that threshold again and so you hear all the time of

01:00:41.560 these men making new world records or records for women swimming or or jumping or late weightlifting

01:00:49.160 and those are categories now that a woman a biological woman will never surpass despite training you know her entire

01:00:57.800 life or relentlessly and it's so unjust and it's so unfair and it's actually refreshing to me to see a leader

01:01:07.000 actually lead on this file for once rather than cower and kowtow um out of fear of being called you know

01:01:13.080 like a transphobe or a bigot because women that i speak to who are being beat out in these categories 0.90

01:01:20.520 they want fairness to be restored and they don't want their sport taken over by men pretending to be women

01:01:26.680 and you're totally right because it would just kill the uh woman's sport no woman would want to practice 1.00

01:01:37.480 any sport anymore they would just say how how can i reach and beat the record it's impossible so why i'm

01:01:46.520 doing this why i would spend all my money my education to go further in something that i'm going to fail anyway

01:01:54.040 yeah exactly exactly and um hopefully we'll start to see some of these these changes happen closer to

01:02:02.440 home here in canada and i mean i think there's a very realistic and logical way to get around all

01:02:07.640 this make its own category if you want to be transgender you want to identify as whatever you

01:02:13.320 have your own category keep women's sports women keep men's sports men and if you want to have your own 0.59

01:02:19.560 transgendered category where you compete in and amongst yourselves and i don't know what kind of

01:02:24.280 criteria like to me it would be a complete clown show but regardless you can have your own category

01:02:30.680 whatever you want to identify as have at it but let's let's keep these sports as they should be

01:02:38.040 defined by biology and that's male and female exactly all right moving on our last topic uh

01:02:49.000 is our daily dose of cringe and um we have this 46 second clip from our new prime minister mark

01:02:59.960 carney where he wants to spend less to invest more let's have a look at this i have a simple rule

01:03:09.720 spend less invest more let's say you buy a home the down payment and the mortgage cost a lot up front

01:03:15.160 but your home builds value over time that's an investment now you still have other bills like

01:03:19.880 heat and electricity you need them but they don't make you better off in the long run those are

01:03:25.080 operational expenses i will balance our operational budget in three years we'll spend what we need to

01:03:31.720 with the money we already have and we'll do things that encourage the big investments that create jobs

01:03:37.560 and grow our economy like building millions of homes making canada a clean energy superpower and creating

01:03:44.360 new trade routes so we're not dependent on the united states spend less invest more

01:03:52.280 i'm actually a little bit like i it's something i don't understand because it's not him that he

01:03:57.960 is actually spending more than trudeau currently yeah well that's what i i was just going to say

01:04:03.080 where's the budget mark carney we don't have a budget like his government has not tabled a budget

01:04:10.280 um and instead of saying you know what parliament's been prorogued for and not even sitting for that

01:04:18.200 vast majority of the last year ish six months for sure um so we're going to delay our summer recess so

01:04:25.800 that we can table canadians a budget because in these tumultuous times these economic times canadians

01:04:31.480 deserve to have a budget instead of doing that mark carney was like yeah i think we're gonna get to it

01:04:36.520 in the fall um so stay tuned but i'm gonna head on to vacation now so you know see ya and then you know

01:04:44.120 he says things like we it's time we're going to spend less so we can invest more and again i just keep

01:04:48.840 coming back to where is the budget and i loved that chris stacy pointed out in the comments we're running

01:04:58.600 a 92 billion dollar deficit which is higher than the trudeau government projected by the way um how is

01:05:06.520 that spending less yeah i mean the the proof is quite literally in the pudding um so we're not actually

01:05:14.040 spending any less we're spending record amounts on interest only on that deficit so we're none of

01:05:23.880 this makes sense i we're not spending any less we're spending way more on interest we don't have a

01:05:30.840 budget the budget has been balanced in over i mean since trudeau's reign of terror and arguably

01:05:37.320 um for the last i think it was 12 ish years you'd have to source back to the canadian taxpayers

01:05:43.720 federation which follows all of that so closely but um he also says in there the sneaky little bit

01:05:50.920 at the end create new trade routes so we are less dependent on the us that is how we would spend less

01:06:00.520 and make more is to further strengthen those trade routes with the us they are quite literally

01:06:10.680 our bordering neighbor how is anything going to be less expensive than just strengthening

01:06:16.760 the trade routes that we already have with our southern border strongest ally historically and

01:06:22.680 biggest trade partner um we're undoubtedly going to need to spend more if we're creating new trade routes

01:06:30.440 abroad with europe who carney is attempting to align canada more with the european union than he is to

01:06:39.080 the united states so this is full of orwellian doublespeak and um i see in the comments that

01:06:48.120 a lot of people are seeing through it so i love to see that but i don't know how much it's going to

01:06:53.880 actually change anything with this government i think uh economically it's not going to go well

01:07:00.600 but we all know we all see it it's all coming we see how it goes yeah well everyone was like elbows up

01:07:09.720 canada we have a former central banker and he's going to get us out of this mess yay carney and this is

01:07:18.200 the additional mess that he is creating so once again i think that canadians will not wake up and

01:07:25.880 start to pay attention until it hits them where it really hurts which is their pocketbooks and that

01:07:30.120 is increasingly happening um many canadians were hoping or or misled rather by our compromised

01:07:36.680 mainstream media the carney would be the guy that would turn that ship around and now they're seeing

01:07:41.240 that that isn't actually coming to fruition so elbows are really down um these days and with that

01:07:49.800 our stream concludes so thanks everybody for joining us today i think it will be sheila back again

01:07:57.400 tomorrow same time and place 1 to 2 p.m eastern for rebel roundup our daily live stream thank you to

01:08:05.240 everybody behind the scenes who make sure that the links and the stream runs seamlessly and smoothly

01:08:12.280 thanks alexa for hopping on today so sheila could tend to some business and um for everyone out there

01:08:21.160 who's watching this stream thank you for your support uh who's watching our governments like mark carney

01:08:26.920 with his double speak please just hang on to your critical thinking caps because we increasingly

01:08:33.880 are going to need them stay tuned for more next time yeah

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Rebel News Podcast - July 10, 2025

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