Rebel News Podcast - Rebel Roundup： Guest Ezra Levant, Sheila Gunn Reid

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00:00:49.480 Welcome to Rebel Roundup ladies and gentlemen and the rest of you in which we look back at

00:00:54.340 some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favorite Rebels. I'm your host David Menzies.

00:01:00.620 Alberta's election bureaucracy is going to war with our own Sheila Gunn-Reed investigating her for 1.00

00:01:07.920 practicing freedom of expression. Oh yeah. Sheila will explain why wild rose country is suddenly 0.99

00:01:15.600 looking like a tin pot dictatorship and if you think we're exaggerating just will you hear the

00:01:22.420 nitty-gritty details. Ezra Levent is back from the UK where he recently met up with Tommy Robinson

00:01:28.640 who is residing in solitary confinement at a maximum security prison until mid-September.

00:01:36.240 Ezra will give us the good, the bad and the ugly regarding Tommy's current incarceration

00:01:41.160 and you won't want to miss that. And finally letters, we get your letters. We get your letters

00:01:46.640 every minute of every day and I'll share some of your responses regarding Kathy Zhu aka the former Miss

00:01:53.460 Michigan who was recently stripped of her crown. Her crime? Well she likes to espouse conservative 1.00

00:02:01.700 viewpoints. Those are your rebels, now let's round them up. Back in April we received a letter from

00:02:15.820 Alberta's elections commissioner. That entire bureaucracy is a recent creation of the NDP and

00:02:21.600 it was weaponized against not least conservative critics. They have come after us about billboards

00:02:27.080 critical of the NDP on two separate occasions in the past and they lost. This new threat letter in

00:02:35.020 April came from the elections commissioner, Lauren Gibson, and it was addressed to me but it was sent to

00:02:40.840 our Toronto office. So the Alberta election was over, Jason Kenney was the new premier, but Notley's

00:02:47.000 hand-picked enforcer was still on the job and he still is today. He said he was opening an investigation

00:02:54.760 after complaints about lawn signs promoting my best-selling book. Here's part of his letter.

00:03:01.240 We will be seeking your answers to a number of questions including the following. What was the

00:03:06.820 basis upon which you determined the selling price of the Stop Notley book? What was the date you began

00:03:13.360 to make this book available to the public? Was the availability of the Stop Notley book to the public

00:03:20.020 time to occur with the 2019 provincial election campaign or was the book planned to be made

00:03:25.620 available to the public regardless of whether there was an election or not? What is the estimated

00:03:31.260 cost of the Stop Notley advertising book promotion campaign? What is the contact information for the

00:03:37.420 company that published the Stop Notley book and the company that designed, produced, and distributed

00:03:42.760 the Stop Notley signs? Gibson said he would be contacting me for an interview or to put it another

00:03:50.260 way, I'd be interrogated by the government about a book I wrote about the government. Now his letter

00:03:57.440 didn't even tell me who's under investigation or for what? Is it me or the publisher of my book?

00:04:03.280 Who's in trouble here? Is it for the book or the lawn signs promoting the book? And really it doesn't

00:04:09.580 matter anyway or it shouldn't because we have a free press in Canada and here is the elections law

00:04:16.460 that specifically exempts books. Section 44 D2 reads, elections advertising does not include

00:04:23.720 the distribution of a book or the promotion of the sale of a book for no less than its commercial value

00:04:30.040 if the book was planned to be made available to the public regardless of whether there was to be an

00:04:36.860 election. Well I'm sure Sheila Gunn-Reed is feeling somewhat confused these days in terms of where

00:04:42.640 she's residing. Oh sure officially she lives in the province of Alberta but given the outrageous and 0.99

00:04:49.580 egregious actions of Alberta's election commissioner, Wildrose country certainly resembles the Democratic

00:04:57.960 People's Republic of Korea. And with more on Alberta's journalistic jihad against one reporter 0.97

00:05:05.180 is our very own Sheila herself. Welcome to Rebel Roundup Sheila. Hey David thanks for having me on.

00:05:11.960 It's such a pleasure and this is such an important story and I urge all our viewers to watch your full

00:05:18.880 video because the overreach here by the Alberta bureaucracy is downright chilling. But Sheila the

00:05:26.040 key question remains what exactly are you being investigated for in the first place?

00:05:33.320 I still don't really know. The initial information and the initial contact we had from

00:05:41.600 the elections commissioner is that they were opening an investigation due to complaints about

00:05:47.620 the stopnotly.com lawn signs. Those were beautiful lawn signs, a very successful guerrilla marketing campaign,

00:05:54.680 5,000 of them blanketed the province. But as it turns out that really, they really weren't asking

00:06:03.340 questions about the lawn signs. The lawn signs were a marketing campaign by my publisher. But all their

00:06:11.400 questions seemed to be focused about the book. When we started planning the book and they wanted the

00:06:20.920 internal emails and all my documents about when we were planning to publish the book and when I started

00:06:27.440 writing the book, which like you point out is not something that governments should be doing in free

00:06:34.680 countries where there is a free press and free speech. It's a complete government overreach that this

00:06:43.260 bureaucracy that was created by Rachel Notley is weaponized against her conservative critics, not just us, but

00:06:51.920 also, you know, our friends at Alberta can't wait. They've this bureaucracy has had a sole focus since its

00:07:01.260 inception on targeting conservatives who spoke truth to power about Rachel Notley. And even though the

00:07:08.860 conservatives are in power now, Rachel Notley's appointees, her swamp is still deeply entrenched 0.96

00:07:15.180 in government and still doing her bidding. You know, and we got to point out here, Sheila, yes, we do have

00:07:20.620 freedom of expression and freedom of the press. But you can publish a book and people can come after

00:07:26.680 you legally for things like libel, defamation. But as far as I know, those benchmarks aren't met with this

00:07:34.600 case, this is a government, a former government, really, I think this is the unspoken story here,

00:07:42.300 coming after you not for legitimate claims of libel or defamation, but because Rachel Notley had her

00:07:49.320 feelings hurt. She was embarrassed by you, rightly so, on so many occasions. But I'm sorry, that's no

00:07:57.160 reason to have her sick her attack dogs on you. And I think this falls under abuse of process, Sheila. 0.99

00:08:06.740 Well, it absolutely does. I mean, the actions of the elections commissioner really are unconstitutional.

00:08:13.380 Imagine demanding internal emails from a journalist and author about why they published a book that is critical

00:08:21.980 of the government of the day, as Ezra would say, because it's my bloody well right to do so.

00:08:28.060 It really is an abuse of power. It's an overreach and a wholly inappropriate how this investigation has been

00:08:35.080 conducted so far. The investigator, who I don't know if he realized that I was recording our conversations, but

00:08:42.820 I'm a journalist. And so I record a lot of conversations. I guess it just goes to prove that I actually am a

00:08:50.940 journalist and not some third party advertiser. But he knows I have a lawyer. He knows my lawyer's name, my lawyer's

00:08:59.780 contact information. But he insists on contacting me directly. And he insists on doing much of our communication

00:09:06.720 informally through phone calls, despite the fact that I first reached out to the investigator in an email with a series

00:09:13.720 of questions that I wanted answers. Now, those were never really answered. Everything is very vague.

00:09:20.500 But again, it's very inappropriate for the investigator to continue to contact me, despite the fact that he knows full well

00:09:28.060 I have a lawyer, except for the fact that, you know, he maybe he thinks I'm stupid and he's trying to trip me up. But I think

00:09:35.100 he just found out the hard way that I'm not.

00:09:37.580 Well, you know, you're absolutely right, Sheila. The fact that he's not putting these questions to you in writing, the fact that he's not

00:09:45.280 going through legal channels, because this is a legal matter right now, this smacks of unprofessionalism.

00:09:52.120 Now, of course, you recorded the calls. I'm I'm wondering, I'm pretty sure he was probably recording the calls. And that is

00:09:57.820 probably the method to his madness. He's coming across as, you know, very casual, like he's having a, you know, a chat at a Tim

00:10:05.220 Hortons with you. And he's hoping you are going to say something to trip yourself up. So far, you haven't given him

00:10:13.480 such a gift. But this guy, Ken Brander, Sheila, he is an ex cop who literally has blood on his hands, who is now acting

00:10:24.000 as the moral authority of Alberta. What can you tell our viewers here about Mr. Brander's career when he was a police

00:10:33.300 officer in Edmonton? Well, you know, Ezra has done some pretty deep digging into Ken Brander. It's been a little

00:10:42.260 difficult for me to do much of that deep digging, because I'm just so consumed with, you know, the free

00:10:46.580 speech issues at hand. But Ken Brander in the early 2000s, he was involved in a high speed crash in his

00:10:53.720 police car. It was an unmarked police car. He did not have his sirens and lights on. And he hit a civilian

00:11:02.200 vehicle, a family. The instantly killing from what it sounds like one young little boy. And when the

00:11:12.040 car burst into flames, because the gas tank exploded, the little boy's brother lost his hands in the fire.

00:11:21.000 And his mother was very severely injured. The judge in the criminal negligence hearing for Ken Brander,

00:11:29.360 he wasn't found guilty of criminal negligence. But the judge did say that he was negligent

00:11:34.740 for the way he was involved in that high speed chase that day. And ultimately, it sounds like

00:11:41.260 the city of Edmonton paid $5 million to clean up the catastrophe that Ken Brander made that day.

00:11:48.820 And yet, this is the man who's out there deciding what constitutional rights I have as a journalist in

00:11:55.240 Canada. It's absolutely despicable. And I think Ezra on his show last night said, you'd think

00:12:02.060 somebody would walk away almost to become a monk and to reflect on. And by the way, that's just one

00:12:09.220 incident. We don't have time to get into other shooting incidents and killings. But my goodness,

00:12:16.260 like you said, for the chutzpah here that this guy who literally has blood on his hands is suddenly

00:12:22.300 Alberta's electoral moral authority is absolutely appalling, Sheila. And Sheila, I wanted to say

00:12:29.560 something else. Anyone that I've spoken to about this case, they can't believe how egregious it is.

00:12:36.900 They can't believe the fishing expedition that this individual and this office is going on. And

00:12:45.340 everyone is confident that we're going to win, as am I. But here's the thing, Sheila, we're already up to

00:12:51.900 $48,000 in legal fees. And it's one of these situations, Sheila, where the process is indeed

00:13:02.060 the penalty. So for these guys, win, lose or draw, they really don't care. It's the fact that they are

00:13:08.560 trying to drain us of cash. That's their victory. I think this is appalling. And this is what makes me

00:13:16.800 even question the system to begin with. You know, I was talking to a friend this morning

00:13:21.820 about this. And she told me that the elections commissioner has nine different investigators

00:13:28.420 working constantly to censor Albertans with regard to their political opinions during the elections

00:13:36.080 period. But I mean, I don't know what would become of me if I didn't have the rebel standing behind me

00:13:45.180 during this. There's no way that I would ever ask my family to foot a $48,000 bill while I fight for

00:13:53.600 free speech. And Ezra has said that, you know, if they find me, the rebel will indemnify me. But as

00:14:00.240 Ezra also rightly points out, it isn't really the rebel. It's all of our supporters at home. And,

00:14:05.800 you know, over the last, I guess it's 24 hours now, just the sheer outpouring of support and

00:14:17.260 encouragement that I've received online and, you know, in personal messages, it's been overwhelming.

00:14:26.280 It's actually made me a little emotional. And just hearing how the work that we do here at the rebel

00:14:31.960 has affected people's lives. I received a message from someone who said, two days before Christmas,

00:14:39.720 there was a truck convoy rally up in Bonneville, Alberta, so two hours northeast of where I live.

00:14:48.920 And it was minus 20. Nobody came from the mainstream media, but I drove up. And, you know,

00:14:56.340 he said that, you know, we fight for these people every single day. For me, I'm doing my job. But

00:15:04.560 there is some level of self-interest too. Look, my husband's in the oil patch. He's in oil field

00:15:09.020 transportation. I'm a farmer. So I'm, you know, I'm advocating for my family. But you don't really

00:15:15.120 realize how the stories you do matter to the people who are at home hearing them when they are alone.

00:15:21.280 We're out there fighting for them. And, you know, I've heard from a lot of people say now it's their

00:15:26.800 time to help me out. And I'm just so unbelievably grateful for all of that. And I'm happy to hear

00:15:32.400 that from the grassroots. But two things you said there, Sheila, the support and the mainstream media.

00:15:38.520 Where is the mainstream media support for you, for us in this fight? Now, I granted,

00:15:45.260 many are indifferent to us. Some actually hate us. That's not the point. The point here is the

00:15:50.980 principle of freedom of speech, of freedom of expression, of having a free press and a

00:15:56.040 Western democracy that is being violated by these election commission thugs that are going after

00:16:02.620 you. You would think that there would be a scintilla of morality and ethics in terms of the craft of

00:16:12.040 journalism, in terms of standing up for this cornerstone of a Western democracy. If you don't

00:16:19.160 have free speech, you've got nothing. Has anyone come forward, Sheila, anyone at the Edmonton

00:16:27.000 Journal, which back in the 1930s won a Pulitzer Prize, of course, for going after the Eberhardt

00:16:32.460 government on a free speech issue? Where are our allies, or at least friendly enemies, if you want

00:16:40.040 to call them that, in terms of going to bat for you on this issue?

00:16:43.580 You know, I'm not seeing a lot of it. I'm seeing support from conservative activists,

00:16:49.420 conservative journalists like Mark Milky. I've had some outlets reach out to me for an interview

00:16:57.380 in the mainstream media. But, you know, I'm a little skeptical of those outlets, considering how

00:17:03.600 they've covered the issue of our billboards and our signs in the past. But they're, you know, they're

00:17:12.980 wanting to cover the story, not from, you know, a free speech battle perspective, not from a journalism

00:17:21.220 freedom perspective. They want to do it as, oh, you're the rebels in trouble again. Look at those bad

00:17:26.840 guys. I'm not seeing really any support from anybody on the left in the mainstream media. And

00:17:34.080 I'm probably repeating myself there because the left and the mainstream media are so intertwined. But

00:17:39.660 I'm not really seeing it. And it's pretty evident, at least in the last 24 hours, that a lot of

00:17:44.900 journalists out there hate me, hate my boss, hate the work we do here at The Rebel more than they like

00:17:52.360 the principles that protect the craft they do. And it's a sad state of affairs.

00:17:58.500 Well, Sheila, I think you're absolutely right. And, you know, they're coming for us today.

00:18:02.540 What these self-serving journalists, these increasingly Trudeau-paid state stenographers

00:18:09.240 should realize, how long will it be before they slip up and the state comes for them? And of course,

00:18:15.180 we know across the pond, Tommy Robinson currently doing 66 days for practicing the craft of citizen

00:18:22.120 journalism. This is an all out war on freedom. And I hope that there are people out there that based

00:18:30.760 on principle, not just because it's a rebel, but just on the principle of the craft, they're going to

00:18:35.980 come to your defense and our defense on this. Anyways, we're going to fight this, Sheila. And you are one

00:18:42.660 of the bravest ladies I know out there. I know you'll get through this 100%. And thank you so much

00:18:49.180 for joining me on Rebel Roundup today. Thanks, David. And if anybody wants to help support me

00:18:55.260 in my legal battle, like you pointed out, we've already accrued nearly $50,000 in legal fees. And

00:19:01.040 we're just in the beginning of this fight. And I'm sure I've got fines coming my way now that I've

00:19:06.440 gone public. They can do that at SaveSheila.com. And there they can see my full 20 minute video where

00:19:12.000 I lay out all my evidence. Fantastic. Thank you so much, Sheila. And please, folks, if you have

00:19:16.540 anything to spare, go to SaveSheila.com. More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.

00:19:22.140 I would like to take this car ride to tell you about my prison visit with Tommy Robinson. He,

00:19:37.820 as you know, was sentenced for contempt of court to a nine month prison term. And this is on top

00:19:43.580 of the time he's already served. Now, some of that time served will be deducted from this sentence. So

00:19:48.780 he'll wind up being freed from prison in mid-September. But he has been put

00:19:52.840 in the harshest, most maximum security in London for a non-criminal offense of contempt of court.

00:20:01.860 By the way, no British journalist has been in prison for contempt of court in nearly a century.

00:20:06.900 So the reason I came to visit Tommy is not just because it's a good thing to do to visit someone

00:20:11.960 in prison, but because I was deeply concerned that the prison authorities would abuse Tommy

00:20:18.100 in the same manner that they had abused him at the prison he was in last year, HMP only.

00:20:26.400 Elements of that abuse include putting him in a small box, solitary confinement,

00:20:31.980 with no human contact for 23 and a half hours a day, no television. And then the half hour a day

00:20:37.180 he was let out, he was screamed at by some of the Muslim prison gangs that were wishing him death.

00:20:42.100 He actually had death threats hand delivered to his cell door, very specific death threats.

00:20:47.720 It was not just physical abuse, but the psychological abuse, abuse of 10 weeks in solitary confinement,

00:20:53.580 which is illegal, by the way. And finally, there was the starvation element because Tommy's

00:20:58.940 food was marked Stephen Yaxley-Lennon and hand delivered to his cell. The Muslim prison 1.00

00:21:05.940 gangs that prepared it could tamper with his food in a way they couldn't tamper with food in the 0.81

00:21:11.440 cafeteria style line. So there were various elements of his torture last time. And I use that word

00:21:16.280 on purpose because it is psychological and physical torture.

00:21:21.400 Well, when it comes to Tommy Robinson's current incarceration, first the good news. Unlike his

00:21:27.020 last prison stay, Tommy doesn't believe his food is being tampered with. So he is indeed eating and

00:21:34.160 won't be losing those 40 pounds this time around, I should think. And although he's in solitary

00:21:40.400 confinement, at least he does have a TV. As well, Tommy has access to a gym and he gets to wear his own

00:21:47.080 clothing as opposed to prison stripes. Now the bad news, he's in a maximum security prison. And even worse,

00:21:55.800 he's in prison for committing no real crime. And with more on the Tommy Robinson saga is our very

00:22:02.680 own rebel commander, Ezra Levent, who recently visited Mr. Robinson in the UK simply to see if

00:22:08.840 Tommy was being treated well and also to remind the prison authorities that they too are being watched.

00:22:16.120 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, Ezra. So first of all, Ezra, let's get that ridiculous piece of fake news out of

00:22:25.000 the way that was reported in the Daily Star, where allegedly a 70-year-old prisoner had slugged

00:22:32.920 Tommy Robinson while in the showers. And this was picked up by other media. And it seems to be

00:22:38.600 a fantasy. Yeah, I saw that news that Tommy Robinson was pummeled in the shower by a 70-year-old 0.84

00:22:45.480 guy. They really emphasized that. And they also said he came into prison strutting like a peacock

00:22:49.940 and people of all races insulted him. And I thought, this is a really weird story. It's

00:22:56.100 too perfect. It's too on the nose. Tommy's not as tough as he thinks. Tommy was taken down by a 70-year-old

00:23:01.780 in the shower. How embarrassing. People of all races unite in condemning. I just thought, 0.98

00:23:07.380 that's too on the nose. But more than that, I thought, I heard, I saw that before I visited Tommy in

00:23:13.220 prison. I thought, I'm skeptical because I don't, you know, I heard that Tommy was in some sort of

00:23:20.820 special handling or seclusion. And it just didn't ring true. But I held my skepticism until I met the

00:23:26.180 lad on Tuesday. And it is a complete fabrication and complete literal definition of fake news.

00:23:34.300 Tommy Robinson is in a special prison within a prison. Belmarsh Prison is one of the most serious

00:23:39.960 prisons in the UK. It was their Guantanamo Bay where they held non-enemy illegal combatants. 0.59

00:23:50.360 Unlawful enemy combatants is that's the special phrase for terrorists. That was really the ISIS

00:23:54.120 prison in London. So it was ultra high security. And they have a special unit. It's like a prison

00:23:59.600 within a prison where there are only three prisoners in the whole place. Tommy Robinson,

00:24:04.620 Julian Assange, and then some murderer that I don't know anything about. And these three men

00:24:12.420 do not see each other ever. No other prisoner sees them. They see no other prisoner. Tommy is

00:24:18.700 completely alone there other than his interactions with the guards. So it is a form of solitary

00:24:24.960 confinement in that he sees no, he's not allowed to see any of the prisoners. Now he could holler up

00:24:30.020 to a window and Julian Assange hollers back down. He told me that's the only communication he's had.

00:24:34.960 When he was brought into prison, he was not brought through the general population.

00:24:39.520 He's under enormous observation. The prison warden himself visits him once a day.

00:24:44.320 That's incredible. A doctor or nurse visits him once a day. When they move him from his cell where

00:24:50.700 he's got a TV and a kettle and things like that, to the exercise bike, to the gym, to the showers,

00:24:58.960 to the yard, two guards are there for every move. Like it's so, it's such an unusual place. They're

00:25:05.320 used to handling, I don't know, like a Saddam Hussein or something. He has not seen a single

00:25:11.720 other person other than the guards since arriving there. So the idea that he would be in a shower

00:25:16.180 with other prisoners without guards, it's just lie upon lie upon lie. And that was the front page of a

00:25:23.560 newspaper called the Daily Star and the mirror picked it up and everyone picked it up. 100% false.

00:25:29.760 It would be as false as saying Queen Elizabeth secretly visited Tommy Robinson in prison. That's

00:25:35.020 actually more possible than the Tommy Robinson was beat up by a 70-year-old pensioner in the shower.

00:25:42.800 And I have yet to see a correction, clarification, retraction, let alone an apology. And I should

00:25:48.140 tell you that if you think the Canadian media is bad, the British media is worse. It's astounding. And I can't

00:25:54.100 believe, you know, I'd love to know how that news item got generated in the first place. But that's kind of a

00:25:59.900 sidebar issue. This maximum security prison, Ezra, what I don't understand is that even if you despise Tommy

00:26:07.120 Robinson, the idea that he is being kept there, he's not a dangerous offender. He's not an enemy of the state.

00:26:14.000 He's not some kind of a homicidal maniac. Why in the world? I mean, if anyone would really qualify

00:26:20.200 for some, you know, minimal security prison, kind of like the townhouse prisons that we have in

00:26:25.840 Canada for, you know, white collar offenders, it would be Tommy Robinson. Why is he even there in

00:26:31.100 the first place? Well, that's what's so crazy. No journalist since the 1940s has been sent to prison

00:26:36.360 for contempt of court. I've read probably 100 British contempt of court cases. There's actually a great

00:26:40.900 government of the UK website just with contempt of court cases. It's quite easy to read them all.

00:26:48.180 Typically, in a contempt of court case with a journalist, there's just a warning, don't do it,

00:26:53.140 stop doing it. And at most, the media company pays a fine, maybe 20,000 pounds.

00:27:00.180 They just don't imprison journalists for contempt of court. It's just not done. But of course,

00:27:05.140 there's not a rule of law in the UK anymore. Some people are above the law. Some people are below

00:27:11.060 the law. Tommy Robinson is below the law. He doesn't have access to the law. I was in his court

00:27:17.260 for his sentencing hearing. And it is a fact that the trial outside of which he was giving his political

00:27:25.140 commentary, that trial successfully concluded. All the men were convicted. No appeals were upheld.

00:27:30.500 So we know for a fact, it's not a matter of speculation or opinion, Tommy Robinson did not

00:27:34.660 disrupt a trial. He didn't. So where's the contempt of court? Why would they prosecute him 14 months

00:27:40.340 later? Well, according to the Attorney General, by asking the accused rapists as they walked into

00:27:46.340 court on Judgment Day, by asking them, quote, how do you feel about your verdict today? Unquote.

00:27:52.340 By saying those words, that prejudiced and impeded the course of justice and is deserving of a nine

00:28:00.900 month sentence. Not only did it not, but it's absurd. And one of the things Tommy's lawyers did

00:28:07.060 in court was play a video of Tommy walking into that courthouse and journalists asking him those

00:28:13.140 precise questions or more. So why are they locked up? Well, and that's my point. Just as no other

00:28:18.020 journalist has been imprisoned in the UK for contempt of nearly a century. No other journalist

00:28:23.220 today in the UK is being imprisoned for doing the same thing that Tommy did. It's very unfortunate,

00:28:29.860 and I've said this a hundred times, and I'll probably keep saying it until it's not true anymore.

00:28:34.580 When I go to the United Kingdom, I feel like I'm in a dystopian time machine. I see a dark future

00:28:39.780 of what we will become if we don't change our course. And sometimes people in Canada say,

00:28:43.220 why are you going over there? Why are you wasting time? Well, I don't think it's a waste in time.

00:28:47.380 I think it's very interesting, not just for our British viewers, but for people around the world

00:28:51.380 who want to see the way censorship is going. If you had a crystal ball or a time machine,

00:28:56.660 if you had the powers of prophecy to see what's coming down the road in five years, would you not

00:29:02.020 at least contemplate them? I believe that observing the UK, which is very similar to us in law and

00:29:07.380 politics and history, more than any other country, perhaps other than the United States, it's similar

00:29:11.700 to us. Would you not want to have the cautionary lessons from there? And that's what I take back

00:29:17.780 from my observations of Tommy Robinson. I have a personal friendship with him, but that is not what

00:29:23.700 drives me. It's not even the injustice that he suffers that drives me. It's seeing our future and

00:29:32.180 trying to stop it. And you know, and it's worth fighting for as I mean, I was at the PPC event

00:29:38.740 earlier this week and Dr. Salim Mansour said words to the effect that freedom of speech is the very

00:29:45.940 bedrock of a Western free society. Once that is lost, you don't have that society anymore. And that is

00:29:56.100 what we're seeing in the UK, what you've personally seen over there. And you've said, I think previously

00:30:01.300 that maybe we're what, five to 10 years behind that curve here in Canada, that it's coming here

00:30:06.340 and you can see it coming here with things like, you know, M103 with trying to get Section 13 put

00:30:13.460 back into the Canadian Human Rights Act. There are attacks on our freedom of speech and expression

00:30:19.060 almost on a monthly basis. Oh yeah. And because there is so little coverage of it,

00:30:26.820 you have to be really attentive to it to see it happening. An ordinary person who doesn't follow

00:30:32.180 politics closely would never know about it. You have to be extremely online to detect it.

00:30:38.580 You have to be really looking hard for, I mean, for example, to bring back Section 13 of the Canadian 0.93

00:30:45.700 Human Rights Act, that's the internet censorship provision, the Liberals are completely for it.

00:30:51.060 The Conservative Party of Canada, led by Andrew Scheer, they say they're against it,

00:30:55.300 but I had to dig to find that. They filed a piece of paper with the Parliamentary Committee.

00:31:00.500 In that piece of paper, they said they're against it, but they have not given a speech about it,

00:31:04.420 a press release about it, a tweet about it, a public comment about it.

00:31:07.860 So there is no opposition to it, nothing vocal. And I believe that we will slip unwittingly,

00:31:17.860 accidentally, inertially towards censorship, and that therefore it's our job to raise the alarm.

00:31:24.580 And the mythical character, Cassandra, who was cursed with the double-edged sword, the power of

00:31:31.860 prophecy, but the curse that no one would believe her. That is a terrible, I think that's Cassandra,

00:31:36.900 I think that's who that was in mythology. What a terrible, terrible place to be to know the future.

00:31:42.420 It's like you see a car crash coming in slow motion and you shout to people, put on the brakes,

00:31:47.140 put on the brakes, put on the brakes. But no one believes you, no one believes you, no one believes you.

00:31:51.300 What a terrible place to be. It is my hope that either my prophecy comes to be disproven,

00:31:57.460 that we don't go that way or that someone hears us. But right now I am worried and I see in Canada

00:32:04.020 many streams of censorship that are now confluent. And these little streams are turning into a river.

00:32:11.380 And I think in the next 90 days, as we head into the Canadian federal election,

00:32:15.460 we will see this censorship come and it will be as powerful as the Amazon.

00:32:19.860 Chilling times indeed, Ezra. Thank you so much for going over there and giving

00:32:25.060 Tommy Robinson some moral support and also sending that message to the prison authorities that they

00:32:29.380 are being watched. You know, folks, I know Ezra, he won't be able to resist going back there before

00:32:34.980 mid-September when Tommy is released. So keep it tuned here for further updates.

00:32:40.340 More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.

00:32:49.860 According to the Detroit Free Press, Zhu, who is a University of Michigan student,

00:32:55.060 was dismissed last Thursday as a Miss World America pageant participant when that organization

00:33:02.100 described the content of old social media postings as being, quote,

00:33:08.020 offensive, insensitive, and inappropriate, end quote.

00:33:13.860 Gracious. That sounds serious. What did this 20-year-old do? Champion the manifesto of the Ku Klux Klan?

00:33:21.300 Well, hardly. One of her supposedly shocking social media postings, which dates back more than a year

00:33:28.420 ago, by the way, pertained to an encounter she had on campus. The Muslim Student Association had a booth

00:33:34.660 celebrating World Hijab Day, and when Zhu was asked to don a hijab, she declined. She later tweeted, quote,

00:33:42.580 There is a try-a-hijab-on booth at my college campus, so you're telling me that it's now just

00:33:48.740 a fashion accessory and not a religious thing? Or are you just trying to get women used to being oppressed

00:33:55.620 under Islam? End quote. Zhu told the Free Press that, quote,

00:34:00.020 I said that it, the hijab, was getting women used to being oppressed because there are so many women

00:34:06.180 in Middle Eastern countries that are being punished and stoned for refusing to wear a hijab.

00:34:12.820 Nobody is talking about that in the West. End quote. And she's right. But apparently refusing to wear

00:34:19.460 a hijab on World Hijab Day is downright Islamophobic. Well, the spineless cowards running the Miss World 1.00

00:34:26.640 America competition recently dethroned Kathy Zhu, aka Miss Michigan, for speaking honestly and openly

00:34:34.880 about World Hijab Day. That's apparently not allowed, especially if the thoughts being espoused

00:34:42.640 are conservative in nature. In any event, here's what you had to say about Zhu being dethroned for

00:34:49.840 a thought crime. Jack Ralph writes, remind me who created World Hijab Day? I think I missed the vote.

00:34:58.400 Well, World Hijab Day was created by Nazma Khan in 2013. I don't think there was a vote. Voting isn't 0.95

00:35:06.880 a big deal when it comes to living under Sharia law, after all. But you gotta wonder, in the department

00:35:12.400 of in for a penny, in for a pound, why didn't Miss Khan go all in and proclaim February 1st as World 0.69

00:35:21.440 Birka Day? 0.98

00:35:24.240 Khan! Khan!

00:35:29.360 Watch my videos, writes. Facts are racist. Welcome to 2019. Hey, wait a minute, what do you mean 2019?

00:35:39.040 That time period is such a Christian concept. Please be more inclusive and culturally sensitive when

00:35:46.400 you state the date next time, okay? What year is it?

00:35:51.200 B. Henry writes, she did absolutely nothing wrong. In fact, she should be applauded for telling the truth.

00:35:57.760 No, no, no, no, B. Henry. Didn't you get the memo? Applauding is now considered politically incorrect

00:36:04.460 at an increasing number of institutions, given that hand clapping might trigger anxiety amongst

00:36:11.900 those who comprise the ranks of Generation Snowflake.

00:36:15.820 Students instead are encouraged to use jazz hands.

00:36:19.820 Jazz?

00:36:20.220 You know what jazz hands are.

00:36:21.260 I know what jazz hands are.

00:36:21.900 You looked it up, didn't you?

00:36:22.780 I didn't look it up. I've known about jazz hands for a long, long time.

00:36:26.460 Jazz hands, it goes back to the time of Al Jolson. That's jazz hands. Your hands above the head,

00:36:30.060 sparkling, sparkling, sparkling, okay?

00:36:32.140 You know, isn't this the head of the political correctness snake eating its tail?

00:36:37.820 No more clapping, so let's use hand gestures most associated with a guy who made a career

00:36:44.140 out of donning blackface. Oh, mammy. 1.00

00:36:48.300 Me now writes, she's too good looking and smart to be a leftist. 1.00

00:36:53.340 Hey, and for that matter, me now, she's presumably too smart to be a beauty pageant 1.00

00:36:59.260 contestant as well. I think the beauty biz likes some gorgeous on the outside but dim-witted on the 1.00

00:37:05.820 inside, lest someone say something politically incorrect. So it is that Kathy Zhu is beauty

00:37:12.620 contestant non grata. But Miss Teen South Carolina 2007? Oh, she's perfect.

00:37:19.980 Okay. Recent polls have shown a fifth of Americans can't locate the U.S. on a world map.

00:37:27.420 Why do you think this is?

00:37:30.700 I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation

00:37:41.020 don't have maps and I believe that our education, like such as in South Africa and the Iraq,

00:37:48.700 everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should

00:37:56.300 help the U.S. or should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries. So we

00:38:02.940 will be able to build up our future for our children. Thank you very much, South Carolina.

00:38:08.060 By the way, why were the U.S. Americans in the audience actually applauding her? Such as?

00:38:14.300 Well, that wraps up another edition of Rebel Roundup. Thanks so much for joining us. See

00:38:18.380 you next week. And hey folks, never forget, without risk, there can be no glory. Good night.

00:38:27.500 We'll see you next week.

00:38:43.820 Bye.

00:38:45.820 Bye.

00:38:47.820 Bye.

00:38:49.820 Bye.

00:38:53.820 Bye.

Rebel News Podcast - June 01, 2019

Rebel Roundup： Guest Ezra Levant, Sheila Gunn Reid

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