Rebel News Podcast - Rebel Roundup： Guests Ezra Levant, Keean Bexte, & Ben Davies!

00:00:00.560 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.

00:00:03.700 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you,

00:00:07.040 in which we look back at some of the very best commentaries of the week

00:00:10.260 by your favourite Rebels. I'm your host, David Menzies.

00:00:14.380 Just how bad is lav scam getting for Justin Trudeau?

00:00:18.000 Well, would you believe that dozens of young women who would have given him

00:00:22.700 a standing ovation in the House of Commons just a few months ago

00:00:26.760 are now literally turning their backs on the PM?

00:00:30.620 Rebel Commander Ezra Levent has the latest on the ongoing SNC-Lavalin dumpster fire.

00:00:37.080 So, Kenan Bextie was in the riding of Calgary Varsity the other day

00:00:41.500 doing what all reporters do, asking questions.

00:00:45.740 But current NDP candidate, former communist Anne McGrath,

00:00:51.020 she didn't care for his questions, so guess what?

00:00:53.800 She called the cops. Just while you hear the details. 0.98

00:00:58.800 And our Tinseltown Rebel recently attended a showing of the entire Dark Knight trilogy,

00:01:04.100 an event hosted by director Christopher Nolan himself.

00:01:08.060 While many on the left loathe the right-of-centre narrative these films embody,

00:01:13.260 Ben Davies is going to explain why these leftists are really a bunch of jokers.

00:01:17.960 And finally, letters. We get your letters. We get your letters every minute of every day.

00:01:23.320 And I'll share some of your responses regarding the removal of a high-risk transgendered pedophile 1.00

00:01:30.240 who had been placed in a female halfway house in Brampton, Ontario. 1.00

00:01:35.040 Yeah, apparently he violated his parole conditions in less than a week.

00:01:39.000 Gee, who saw that coming?

00:01:41.100 Those are your rebels. Now let's round them up.

00:01:43.260 Let me show you a bizarre TV clip of Trudeau speaking to a group of young women

00:01:55.000 who visited Parliament yesterday.

00:01:57.340 Remember, almost 50 of these young women, when Trudeau spoke,

00:02:00.920 as you can see here, they stood up and turned their backs on him.

00:02:04.560 He was speaking. They stood up with their backs to him.

00:02:08.000 And it's sort of incredible, given how much he's sold himself as a male feminist.

00:02:13.020 I think he's destroyed that reputation these past two months.

00:02:16.040 These young women are his core demographic. 0.98

00:02:18.940 They all think he's just like a Gian Gomeschi character now, a groper,

00:02:23.320 which, of course, we know he is.

00:02:26.080 Anyways, to the young women who didn't turn their backs on him,

00:02:29.760 here's what he said. Now listen to this. It's so weird. Listen.

00:02:32.800 I know nobody in here wants to have to pick who to believe

00:02:37.320 between Jody Wilson-Raybould and Chrystia Freeland.

00:02:41.500 Nobody wants to know that one person has to be right

00:02:44.440 and another person has to be wrong

00:02:45.860 between Jane Philpott or Maryam Mosef. 0.71

00:02:54.660 There are always going to be a range of perspectives

00:02:57.660 that we need to listen to.

00:02:59.000 First of all, he actually forgot Jane Philpott's name, which is weird.

00:03:06.060 Look what he did. He reframed this whole crisis

00:03:08.340 as just something between quarreling women. 0.92

00:03:11.520 Jody Wilson-Raybould versus Chrystia Freeland?

00:03:15.600 What?

00:03:17.320 Jane Philpott versus Catherine McKenna?

00:03:19.140 What? What? What? What? What? What? 0.99

00:03:21.500 So this whole problem these past two months hasn't been about him.

00:03:25.480 He's not the problem here.

00:03:26.600 The problem is between a couple of quarrelsome women, 1.00

00:03:29.380 Jody Wilson-Raybould and Chrystia Freeland.

00:03:30.700 It's between Philpott and McKenna.

00:03:32.120 It's between some arguing, gossipy women. 1.00

00:03:36.800 He's the calm father figure above it all.

00:03:41.280 You know his role.

00:03:43.200 He's the great giver.

00:03:46.140 He gives to these women.

00:03:48.520 His role is to give them a chance.

00:03:51.640 He's their father figure.

00:03:53.080 He's their, what, boyfriend?

00:03:55.580 I don't know anyone else who would get that close to some of these women 1.00

00:03:58.200 other than their maritable spouse.

00:04:01.360 I mean, why are you hugging?

00:04:03.680 Why are you coming nose to nose with these women? 0.99

00:04:06.480 It's so, look at that hug.

00:04:07.820 What is with that?

00:04:09.000 That's a chest-to-chest hug.

00:04:11.200 What is that?

00:04:14.560 Trudeau is playing a weird sociopathic political game here. 0.98

00:04:17.720 He's gaslighting these women. 0.99

00:04:19.180 You know what gaslighting means, right?

00:04:20.280 He's changing the historical facts with a straight face, daring you, telling you not 0.91

00:04:27.760 to believe your lying eyes.

00:04:29.700 This wasn't about him trying to bully Jody Wilson-Raybould. 1.00

00:04:32.380 What are you crazy?

00:04:33.480 This is about Jody Wilson-Raybould fighting with Chrystia Freeland. 0.96

00:04:36.540 This isn't about him doing something that Jane Philpott disapproved of.

00:04:39.740 This is about Jane Philpott quitting.

00:04:42.120 Well, not because of Trudeau's misconduct.

00:04:43.580 It's because she was fighting with Catherine McKenna.

00:04:46.040 Don't you see that?

00:04:48.320 What?

00:04:49.400 It's so weird.

00:04:50.920 He blames other women.

00:04:52.000 He pits women in hypothetical battles. 0.63

00:04:54.760 McKenna and Freeland had nothing to do with this.

00:04:57.120 It's so weird what he did, so manipulative.

00:04:59.800 But it served to exonerate himself psychologically, so he doesn't have to take any responsibility

00:05:04.880 for his screw-ups.

00:05:06.240 Well, the SNC-Lavalin affair is kind of like a Yoko Ono concert, isn't it?

00:05:11.500 It started out badly and then proceeds to get horrid.

00:05:15.800 And tragically, if you're a card-carrying liberal, that is, it didn't have to be this

00:05:20.680 way.

00:05:20.980 If Prime Minister Justin Trudeau simply manned up when the Globe and Mail article originally

00:05:25.720 broke this story and told the truth and apologized to Jody Wilson-Raybould, well, it would have

00:05:31.780 pledged that there would be no deferred prosecution agreement for SNC-Lavalin, well, this story would

00:05:37.560 likely have been dead and buried by now.

00:05:39.840 But instead, the scandal continues to fester like some ghastly soap opera script.

00:05:45.360 And far from manning up, now Trudeau is metaphorically hiding behind the skirts of Freeland and

00:05:51.760 McKenna. 1.00

00:05:52.820 Pathetic. 1.00

00:05:53.900 Joining me now to weigh in on a scandal that will surely dog Trudeau all the way to Election 0.99

00:05:59.740 Day is our very own Rebel Commander Ezra Levant.

00:06:02.500 Welcome to Ezra, welcome to Rebel Roundup, Ezra.

00:06:06.100 My pleasure.

00:06:07.040 You know, I think back, I was listening to you there, and I might have told you this anecdote

00:06:12.120 before, Ralph Klein in Alberta had a pretty good sense of the province, pretty good feeling

00:06:18.360 for the mood.

00:06:19.080 Yes.

00:06:19.400 But he, no, it's perfect, especially when you're making decisions every day.

00:06:22.900 So, but once a year, he would get something really, really wrong.

00:06:26.900 Okay.

00:06:27.280 And every politician's instinct is to dig your heels in, which is probably the right instinct

00:06:31.920 because you get it pushed around so much, if you caved in at the first breeze, you would

00:06:36.840 be flip-flopping every day.

00:06:37.840 But when it was clear that he just got something really wrong, Ralph would just, in his own

00:06:44.960 Ralph-y way, just go and say, you know what, folks?

00:06:48.080 I screwed up.

00:06:49.600 Yeah.

00:06:50.240 I'm sorry.

00:06:52.700 And look, and it was like a 30-second press conference because when you say, I screwed

00:06:57.980 up, I got it wrong, sorry, I'll undo it.

00:06:59.780 There's really not much more you need to say because you've said it all.

00:07:02.400 And the public is very forgiving.

00:07:03.800 Yeah, well, that was the miracle, is that his popularity would always grow up because

00:07:09.100 people would say, holy moly, he's normal and he's not a liar. 0.79

00:07:16.020 And yeah, we all knew he screwed up.

00:07:19.720 That's not the news here.

00:07:20.960 The news is that a politician admitted it and fixed it and no one ever expected anyone

00:07:26.300 to be 100% perfect, especially not Ralph Klein.

00:07:28.760 Now, here's the thing, Justin Trudeau makes apologies every month, but they're not genuine.

00:07:35.760 They're not for his own misconduct.

00:07:38.240 He's an expert at apologizing for things other people did, often decades or even a century

00:07:44.300 ago.

00:07:44.800 And the reason that's a fake apology is because when you apologize for what someone else did,

00:07:49.900 especially if it was long ago, you're not actually saying sorry because you have nothing

00:07:53.160 to say sorry for.

00:07:54.000 What you're actually doing is a psychological trick.

00:07:57.840 You're saying, because I'm the only one who would apologize for him, I'm better than him.

00:08:03.800 And I'm going to get the kudos for apologizing for him.

00:08:09.800 Everyone knows I didn't do it.

00:08:11.360 And I've posited myself as the better example.

00:08:14.780 So his fake apologies are less than meaningful.

00:08:17.600 They're actually proof that he's a bit of a scammer, because you don't apologize for

00:08:22.920 something that you didn't do.

00:08:24.160 You have no authority to apologize for it.

00:08:26.820 Had he done...

00:08:27.700 Jody Wilson-Raybould, I looked at the five...

00:08:29.460 She made five demands. 1.00

00:08:31.460 They weren't even demands.

00:08:32.320 It was more advice.

00:08:33.180 Here's how you fix it.

00:08:34.420 Get rid of the people trying to corrupt the system.

00:08:36.500 Well, Gerald Butts, gone.

00:08:37.520 Michael Wernick, gone.

00:08:38.700 There was one other PMO staffer gone.

00:08:40.960 That's good advice.

00:08:41.660 Matthew Boucher.

00:08:42.060 And then promise not to interfere.

00:08:47.640 Yeah, that's good advice.

00:08:49.180 And then admit what your office did was wrong.

00:08:52.200 Yeah, that's...

00:08:52.920 And the reason that last part is so important.

00:08:55.300 Why would you want the prime minister to admit his office was wrong?

00:08:58.360 Why is that necessary?

00:08:59.840 Because if he won't admit it's wrong, that means he doesn't think it's wrong.

00:09:03.580 He doesn't get it that he was doing something wrong.

00:09:05.660 And he'll probably keep trying.

00:09:07.520 So it wasn't...

00:09:08.700 By the way, none of those things, as you'll see,

00:09:10.540 make Jody Wilson-Raybould more rich, more powerful, more influential,

00:09:15.600 give her a promotion, give her a... 1.00

00:09:16.580 None of those things are what you would traditionally negotiate for in some...

00:09:21.280 Like, normally, if you're lobbying or negotiating,

00:09:23.380 you're trying to improve your own position.

00:09:25.400 These weren't even conditions for her own benefit.

00:09:28.560 This was how to fix the real problem.

00:09:30.320 Had Trudeau...

00:09:32.000 Look, he said goodbye to Butts and Wernick anyways.

00:09:34.740 Yes.

00:09:35.320 So say goodbye to this last guy who was trying to corrupt the system.

00:09:38.460 Say you're not going to do it again.

00:09:40.540 And don't do it again.

00:09:42.180 And you're done.

00:09:43.300 Imagine if he would have done that two months ago.

00:09:45.680 This thing would have been a blip and it would have been done with.

00:09:48.220 And Jody Wilson-Raybould would be able to say in honesty,

00:09:52.020 yeah, Trudeau got it wrong.

00:09:53.660 But in his defense, he's not a lawyer.

00:09:55.880 And I am.

00:09:56.980 And I told him how to fix it.

00:09:58.180 And he did.

00:09:59.100 So we're good.

00:09:59.920 No, he is clearly an author of his own misfortune, Ezra, 0.62

00:10:03.740 in the fact that he cannot apologize for something that he has screwed up.

00:10:08.480 But I think that was a watershed moment on Wednesday when you had the daughters of the vote in the House of Commons,

00:10:13.400 almost 50 of them turned their backs on Justin Trudeau.

00:10:18.260 And yet, you know, talk about not being accountable for your actions and for what you've done.

00:10:24.040 Trudeau had that speech where he was talking about, you know, you can't be a team player, you know,

00:10:30.040 trying to ensure diversity if it's Freeland versus you, if it's McKenna versus you.

00:10:35.820 Here's my question to you.

00:10:37.280 It wasn't me, the guy, you know, Trudeau was saying.

00:10:40.960 It was these female. 1.00

00:10:41.880 He turned it into a she said, she said event instead of he said, she said.

00:10:45.860 I'm wondering if Trudeau even went to Freeland and McKenna said,

00:10:48.880 by the way, I'm going to be using your names in this speech I'm giving to the daughters of the vote.

00:10:53.540 No, of course not.

00:10:54.280 But of course he knew in advance they would be fine with it because they have agreed to do anything for him.

00:11:00.040 In return for power.

00:11:01.340 Yeah.

00:11:01.620 Which is exactly the opposite of Jodie Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott.

00:11:04.620 Two professional women of accomplishment who had accomplished careers outside of politics before they got in. 0.98

00:11:11.440 Chrystia Freeland was a pop journalist who wrote some sort of tabloid style books 1.00

00:11:18.640 and wrecked a little new media initiative in New York for Thomson Reuters.

00:11:25.000 She was not particularly accomplished.

00:11:30.040 And Catherine McKenna is some social justice warrior activist.

00:11:35.000 Compare those extremely lean, or in the case of Chrystia Freeland, negative resumes with Jodie Wilson-Raybould,

00:11:41.800 an aboriginal woman who became a top prosecutor, or Jane Philpott, who was a doctor who led, you know, aid missions abroad.

00:11:50.620 So Chrystia Freeland and Catherine McKenna are absolutely grateful to the great white giver, Justin Trudeau.

00:11:59.240 Here, I'll make you cabin.

00:12:00.500 You think Chrystia Freeland, on her own merits, should be the foreign minister? 0.90

00:12:06.660 She's screwed every single file up.

00:12:08.460 Now, Trudeau gets a lot of blame for that, too.

00:12:10.080 I mean, the fact that they put her in charge of the NAFTA renegotiations, she's never negotiated anything before other than a failed deal with, like, the Belgians or something.

00:12:19.400 And she cried in that negotiation.

00:12:21.540 So it's such a contrast between these two women of character. 0.91

00:12:25.260 And by the way, I disagree ideologically with Jodie Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott.

00:12:29.100 They're leftists, and I'm a right winger.

00:12:30.560 But that doesn't speak to character or...

00:12:33.900 But this is about the integrity of the system, right?

00:12:36.280 And that's why I'm so impressed with Jodie Wilson-Raybould that I don't even think for a moment about our ideological differences.

00:12:42.480 It's because when was the last time anyone left or right showed the kind of moral care and conscientiousness that they would actually quit cabinet on a point of principle?

00:12:53.240 And then Jane Philpott to quit cabinet also, even though she wasn't directly in the file, those are astonishing acts of self-sacrifice that...

00:13:06.460 I mean, when I started by mentioning how Ralph Klein would occasionally just say, guys, I screwed up.

00:13:10.740 I was wrong.

00:13:11.260 Sorry.

00:13:11.820 That's not even a big self-sacrifice.

00:13:13.420 That's just embarrassing yourself for 30 seconds and saying what everyone already knew.

00:13:17.960 You were wrong.

00:13:18.860 So everyone was wowed when Ralph Klein would say, I got it wrong.

00:13:21.740 Here are two women who actually ended their political careers, at least temporarily, maybe forever, over a point of morality. 0.94

00:13:32.120 That's impressive.

00:13:32.860 And Trudeau looks so tone deaf.

00:13:34.460 There is one more thing I want to point out.

00:13:36.860 Trudeau screws up quite a bit, also because he's led a life of luxury and unseriousness.

00:13:42.320 And it was only in the last 5, 10 years that he's decided to be a grownup.

00:13:45.760 So he doesn't have a lifetime of experience.

00:13:48.280 You can imagine the lifetime of experience that Jody Wilson-Raybould had, especially as a prosecutor.

00:13:54.400 Yes.

00:13:54.720 Dealing with right and wrong, making tough ethical calls.

00:13:57.840 Tough gig.

00:13:58.780 Well, being a prosecutor, I wouldn't want that job.

00:14:00.900 Yeah.

00:14:01.040 But if you succeeded that, you'd probably care about the law, I'm guessing.

00:14:06.560 I don't know.

00:14:08.900 So Trudeau screws up more than average.

00:14:11.320 But it's so funny when he talks about it, he has this psychological trick.

00:14:16.160 And watch for it, because once you know it, you can't unsee it.

00:14:19.340 If he does something really bad, like let's say when he groped Rose Knight, the young reporter

00:14:25.780 in Creston, B.C., and when he's dead to rights, when everyone knows he's, he comes out and he

00:14:32.800 repositions himself out of the fray as an observer above it.

00:14:38.340 So he says, ah, this was a good learning experience for us, for the country, and I'm happy to

00:14:47.080 participate in this dialogue.

00:14:48.720 And she had her point of view, and there's another point of view, and I'm the great giver

00:14:52.500 above it.

00:14:53.700 And so he's not an antagonist.

00:14:57.040 He's not the problem.

00:14:58.500 He takes himself out, and he posits that, oh, I'm the observer.

00:15:01.760 I'm the pundit.

00:15:02.640 I'm hovering above everything like some cosmic priest, and I say, you, this is not about me

00:15:09.200 and Jody Wilson-Raybould.

00:15:10.160 This is about Jody Wilson-Raybould versus Chrystia Freeland.

00:15:13.300 What?

00:15:14.140 But Ezra, isn't there some perverse irony, and you addressed this in a superb commentary

00:15:19.020 earlier this week, that here is a prime minister who professes to be a feminist, and yet when 1.00

00:15:24.980 he perceives his female cabinet ministers screwing up, you're demoted, you're out of caucus,

00:15:31.760 but as you mentioned, the likes of that dinosaur, John McCallum, Ranar Sarkar, when there's

00:15:37.820 a screw-up there, they get plum diplomatic posts. 0.99

00:15:41.380 So, you know, not really true to the street cred of being a feminist, it would seem.

00:15:46.600 Or Seamus O'Regan.

00:15:47.880 Yeah.

00:15:48.040 I mean, why was he, you know, I mean, probably the worst cabinet, I mean, I think Mary Amonsef

00:15:54.700 is the worst cabinet minister, so I'm not going to say Seamus O'Regan's worse than her,

00:15:58.060 but he's so bad, and of course he had to take a leave of absence because of his alcoholism,

00:16:05.120 and I'm not going to be particularly mean to him about that, but he gets promoted?

00:16:08.860 Yeah.

00:16:09.360 And what did the aboriginal people of this country ever do to deserve being punished with 1.00

00:16:13.360 him? 0.99

00:16:13.600 So there's an example, Seamus O'Regan is a clown, is a drunk, I'm sorry, he is. 0.98

00:16:19.080 His former colleague, Bob Fyfe, calls him Seamus O'Regan. 0.98

00:16:22.680 I mean, oh my God, he was hated there.

00:16:25.420 So he fails upward.

00:16:28.840 John McCallum fails upward, and he goes to China as our ambassador and screws that up.

00:16:33.720 Screwed that up too, yeah.

00:16:34.840 All these men fail upward in the Liberal Party.

00:16:38.340 I guess that's Trudeau's own trajectory, but these women get offside. 1.00

00:16:41.900 And I say, I mean, Selina Cesar Chavannes, I have my disagreements with her, I think she's

00:16:46.460 a race huckster.

00:16:47.260 But, oh my God, does Trudeau not know how to handle women who disagree with him?

00:16:52.880 And it's four women in a row. 1.00

00:16:54.620 Jody Wilson-Raybould, Jane Philpott, Selina Cesar Chavannes, of course, Leona Alislev,

00:17:01.280 the MP who defected to the Conservatives a few months ago.

00:17:04.900 It is so unusual to defect from a governing party to an opposition party, especially in

00:17:10.120 the first term.

00:17:11.180 Things have had to be better.

00:17:12.060 So you have four women in a row, all in their own way. 1.00

00:17:16.500 Again, I really disagree with Selina Cesar Chavannes on issues of ideology, and I think

00:17:22.200 she's a cultural Marxist.

00:17:23.960 But she too, I mean, I think she's an MBA.

00:17:26.600 She actually had a successful career. 0.98

00:17:28.720 And Leona Alislev, I think she's a military vet.

00:17:30.880 So these are women of substance. 1.00

00:17:32.880 I'm not talking about the weird Miriam Monsefs and Christy Duncans and even Catherine

00:17:38.980 McKinnis and, like, the women who actually built something with their life, Trudeau can't

00:17:46.800 abide them.

00:17:47.520 He only likes the pure window dressing, say-anything doormats.

00:17:52.420 Wow. 0.98

00:17:52.920 A truly a fraudulent feminist. 1.00

00:17:54.740 Yeah, he's a male feminist. 1.00

00:17:55.760 He's really a pickup artist.

00:17:56.940 Yeah.

00:17:57.140 And he does that physical move.

00:17:59.240 He's like Joe Biden in that way.

00:18:00.800 When he sees a woman, he comes right in. 0.98

00:18:02.660 He touches them.

00:18:03.320 He gropes them.

00:18:04.480 He takes liberties with them that normally you don't do with any woman who's not your

00:18:10.820 wife.

00:18:11.460 Yeah.

00:18:11.960 And those women in that, here's the trick that both Joe Biden and Justin Trudeau have 0.71

00:18:18.600 discovered.

00:18:19.200 And it's a really gross trick.

00:18:20.640 And other men can detect it.

00:18:22.680 But women are confused by it. 1.00

00:18:24.180 And that's, it works, unfortunately, more on women than on men. 1.00

00:18:27.000 Is when Justin Trudeau or Joe Biden see a powerful woman who's achieved things, that's a bit

00:18:34.560 of a threat to them.

00:18:35.680 So what do Justin Trudeau and Joe Biden do?

00:18:37.700 They go up to them and they physically dominate them by invading their personal space in a manner

00:18:42.960 that no other man ought to do other than a man who, frankly, they're married to.

00:18:48.100 And I'm not talking about having sex with them. 0.74

00:18:50.180 I'm talking about full body hugs, getting really right in their face.

00:18:53.400 And to do so, and why do both Joe Biden and Justin Trudeau do that in a public moment?

00:19:00.900 I'm not talking about a private affair.

00:19:03.480 Why do they do that in public?

00:19:05.020 Because then they force that woman to make an instant choice. 0.97

00:19:09.560 And of course, if she has a problem with it, that's her truth.

00:19:12.040 Well, but the thing is, in that moment, if it was in private, I bet you most of those

00:19:18.140 women would push away Joe Biden and Justin Trudeau and say, what are you doing? 1.00

00:19:22.720 But because both men force it into an extremely public place, they make the woman choose.

00:19:30.800 Do you want to continue with your swearing-in ceremony as cabinet minister?

00:19:34.620 Do you want to continue with this greatest moment in your life, you're being sworn in

00:19:38.720 the cabinet?

00:19:39.400 If so, just know that you have to be dominated by me.

00:19:43.380 So you have an instant choice to make.

00:19:45.680 Push me away and cause a scene or submit to my dominance physically, morally, emotionally,

00:19:52.380 temporally, spatially.

00:19:54.720 And most of them fail.

00:19:57.320 Most of them fail because they're so shocked by it.

00:20:00.640 But it is an absolute psychosexual emotional dominance move.

00:20:05.720 It's really a pickup artist.

00:20:07.060 And Trudeau's been doing it his whole life.

00:20:08.580 I think you're right.

00:20:09.260 I think it's very disturbing.

00:20:10.500 As we're almost out of time, one quick question.

00:20:12.460 We've talked a lot about the past.

00:20:14.600 Give me your thoughts.

00:20:15.900 What can Justin Trudeau possibly do at this stage to fix this mess?

00:20:22.680 Well, I think, as Shakespeare said, he's waded into blood so deep, I'm not quoting verbatim,

00:20:30.040 that it's quicker to go all the way through than to turn back.

00:20:34.100 I'm sorry, I don't have the exact quote.

00:20:37.180 It's beautiful.

00:20:37.880 I think it's from Macbeth.

00:20:39.840 Basically, you're in so deep, it's faster to go through than to turn back.

00:20:44.660 So I believe that he will not only increasingly badmouth Jody Wilson-Raybould

00:20:52.240 and Jane Philpott, but I believe he will actually grant a deferred prosecution agreement

00:20:58.040 to SNC-Lavalin because he's all the way in, so far in, why not go all the way through?

00:21:05.440 And I, as I posited in my monologue yesterday, there's two possibilities.

00:21:10.380 One is, he just can't ever say he's wrong.

00:21:13.380 Yeah.

00:21:13.780 So he's just got to do it out of stubbornness.

00:21:15.420 The other is, look, SNC-Lavalin is a corrupt company in its DNA.

00:21:22.220 It's like Bombardier that way.

00:21:23.400 Bombardier has corruption and bribery scandals in countries all over the world.

00:21:28.640 It's how they operate.

00:21:29.580 Same thing with SNC-Lavalin.

00:21:31.520 And I don't just mean dramatic corruption in Africa, in Libya, but in Montreal.

00:21:38.000 Corruption with the hospital, corruption with the bridge, corruption, corruption, corruption.

00:21:43.580 If they're granted a deferred prosecution agreement and don't have to go through trial,

00:21:46.940 we will never know what we don't know.

00:21:48.980 Yeah.

00:21:50.120 If they go to trial, what will we learn about corruption?

00:21:53.400 Is there some donation they've made to a liberal?

00:21:57.980 We saw how they lavished Muammar Gaddafi's son with gifts and prostitutes and sports events

00:22:05.000 and hotel rooms.

00:22:07.800 Well, we know for a fact that Justin Trudeau loves to take illegal gifts, like he took those

00:22:13.240 vacations on Billionaire Island from the Aga Khan.

00:22:15.860 Did SNC-Lavalin, just even something as small as let Justin Trudeau fly on their private jet?

00:22:21.740 Right.

00:22:22.620 Because that's a hell of a perk to give someone.

00:22:25.580 I would say it would be utterly unsurprising for Justin Trudeau to have taken a flight

00:22:31.020 on SNC-Lavalin's private jet.

00:22:33.100 Do you think he took a vacation from them?

00:22:35.780 Do you think someone in his family did?

00:22:37.440 His wife, the grasping, gold-digging Sophie Grigoir Trudeau, did you know that she phoned

00:22:43.000 up the daughter of the Aga Khan and said, we sure had a good time at your island.

00:22:47.940 Can I come back just with my girlfriends?

00:22:49.780 I learned that from you.

00:22:50.760 Yeah.

00:22:51.340 And the princess, the Aga Khan's daughter, said, well, we're not going to be there. 0.99

00:22:56.000 And Sophie Grigoir Trudeau said, oh, no, no, that's, yeah, I know that.

00:22:59.540 Oh, my God.

00:22:59.960 That's not, yeah, I just want the place.

00:23:02.480 I want to meet you.

00:23:03.400 And I know you're thinking, I'm making this up, but if you, this is in the Ethics

00:23:07.820 Commission's report.

00:23:08.920 Yes.

00:23:09.480 So you don't think the grasping, gold-digging, social-climbing Sophie Grigoir Trudeau would

00:23:17.140 take any gift from SNC-Lavalin?

00:23:19.700 Now, I'm just speculating here.

00:23:20.700 I have no evidence of this.

00:23:21.880 And if there's a deal struck with SNC-Lavalin, none of us will have any evidence of this.

00:23:26.780 I think that Justin Trudeau is going to blaze all the way through.

00:23:29.840 Incredible.

00:23:30.620 Well, Ezra, we're going to have to wrap it here.

00:23:31.880 Certainly, this is not the end of this story.

00:23:34.120 And, you know, folks, it's fascinating.

00:23:35.960 I don't think this is a fixable problem anymore.

00:23:38.620 And it's going to be very interesting when the election campaign does kick off.

00:23:43.120 What are these liberals going to run on?

00:23:44.800 In 2015, it was the Trudeau brand.

00:23:47.380 Remember, Team Trudeau.

00:23:49.040 How do you run on the Trudeau brand, given what we've seen in the last two months in 2019?

00:23:54.280 It's going to be fascinating.

00:23:55.740 Keep it here.

00:23:56.400 More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.

00:24:01.880 You're calling the police because I'm asking you why you're a communist.

00:24:09.360 You're harassing me on the sidewalk.

00:24:11.320 You can go to your car.

00:24:13.040 You can leave.

00:24:16.280 Police, please.

00:24:22.020 Are you guys comfortable volunteering for a communist?

00:24:24.740 Is Rachel Notley happy that you are a communist?

00:24:41.580 Do you know how many people communism has killed?

00:24:43.580 Can you hear him?

00:24:49.120 He's got a baseball cap, dark sunglasses, brown leather coat, jeans.

00:24:54.940 He's carrying a microphone and a video camera.

00:24:59.460 And he is...

00:25:01.580 I'm going to stay here.

00:25:02.760 There's no threat to you.

00:25:03.840 There's no threat to you at all.

00:25:04.980 I'm standing here on this sidewalk.

00:25:06.200 It's a public...

00:25:06.900 There's a public space.

00:25:08.240 You're a public figure.

00:25:09.860 You're a public figure and you can leave if you like.

00:25:12.860 I'm not planning on following you.

00:25:14.480 I just want some answers.

00:25:15.660 I think that it's reasonable for the media to ask you since...

00:25:18.160 Well, since the CBC has refused to actually publish the fact that you are a communist

00:25:23.220 who ran during the Cold War.

00:25:26.940 If you would like to leave, you can.

00:25:28.400 It's totally within your rights.

00:25:30.220 I just want to know if you regret being a communist.

00:25:32.860 And if Rachel Notley has forgiven you for that.

00:25:35.220 She's telling the police I'm white.

00:25:41.060 I'm like 5'10".

00:25:42.500 Yeah, I'm 5'10".

00:25:45.200 Wow.

00:25:46.780 Meet Anne McGrath currently running in the riding of Calgary Varsity for the NDP.

00:25:52.200 But McGrath has a somewhat checkered history, formerly running as a Communist Party candidate.

00:25:58.220 And she also once stated that she'd like to see capitalists burn.

00:26:04.760 But as you just saw, she doesn't like discussing the nitty-gritty details pertaining to her sordid past these days.

00:26:12.480 And if you happen to be a reporter who has the utter temerity to ask impolite questions,

00:26:18.400 well, she'll call the police to have you taken away. 1.00

00:26:22.460 Gee, maybe she thinks Alberta is already a communist regime. 0.55

00:26:26.840 And with more on this remarkable interview is our Calgary-based rebel, Kian Bextie.

00:26:33.180 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, Kian. 0.99

00:26:35.220 Thanks for having me again, David.

00:26:37.240 Always a pleasure.

00:26:38.140 Kian, that might be a law enforcement first that we all just witnessed.

00:26:43.180 The alleged victim, Ms. McGrath, is being assisted with pertinent information about the alleged aggressor,

00:26:50.840 that being you, of course.

00:26:51.840 I was howling when you were passing along info to her, such as your height, your race, the fact that you weren't weaponized, etc.

00:27:00.120 But, Kian, does this woman not understand that as a public figure in a public space, she's fair game for questions?

00:27:09.940 She clearly doesn't.

00:27:13.700 She did not.

00:27:15.400 And I don't know how to report on this because it's so unbelievable that she thought it was appropriate to call the cops on a journalist.

00:27:26.880 I was on a – and sorry for the noise.

00:27:28.640 If there's noise, I'm in a mall right now.

00:27:30.120 I just pulled over for this interview because I'm on the campaign trail right now trying to find a few NDP MLAs.

00:27:36.460 But the fact that Rachel Notley's star candidate, someone who has been running the McDougal Center,

00:27:44.020 which is the government operations center in Calgary for southern Alberta, she's the executive director of the McDougal Center.

00:27:50.000 She's a well-read, she's an educated individual, but she doesn't understand that public sidewalks are by definition public.

00:27:58.440 And in public spaces, anyone can record anything, anyone can ask whatever questions they want of people,

00:28:04.620 especially when they're an influential, powerful public figure.

00:28:08.520 Anne McGrath is running a swing riding in Calgary Varsity.

00:28:13.540 There's a lot of university students and there's a lot of uncertainty whether or not she's going to win or the United Conservative Party candidate is going to win.

00:28:22.640 If she does win, she will be one of the few NDP MLAs who win in Calgary,

00:28:27.820 which means that she has a high chance of being in the NDP leadership following the orange crush that we're going to see on April 16th.

00:28:37.220 So the fact that such an incompetent public figure has a high likelihood of running the NDP in the next, within a few weeks, honestly, is surprising to me.

00:28:46.700 That is amazing. And, you know, what I'm curious about, Kian, I find it personally fascinating that anyone growing up in the West

00:28:56.340 could develop a liking for communism, an ideology that I think on the low side of estimates has killed 100 million people.

00:29:07.000 I'm curious, Kian, why do you think the media is giving her a pass on this?

00:29:13.140 As you mentioned in your commentary, she's rarely, if ever, questioned about her past.

00:29:18.580 And it's not just that. That statement, too, about wanting to see capitalists burn.

00:29:23.500 I mean, whatever happened to the loving, inclusive left?

00:29:28.000 Well, she's certainly not loving and inclusive by any means.

00:29:32.100 And you're right about journalists not wanting to highlight her communist past, her red record.

00:29:39.820 She was a communist candidate during the Cold War.

00:29:43.140 During the Cold War at a time when any hour of the day of the entire decade, the entire world could have been enveloped in a nuclear holocaust.

00:29:52.940 And she was cheering for the Ruskies.

00:29:55.540 She was on the Russian team at a time when everyone was terrified.

00:29:59.660 There was drills sending students under their desks in case there was a nuclear holocaust.

00:30:04.060 And she thought that the Russians, they were the model ideology to follow, the USSR.

00:30:10.160 I think it's crazy.

00:30:11.300 And the CBC, they even went as far to outline her entire electoral history because she's ran a few times in Calgary for less radical parties like the NDP.

00:30:20.460 She's ran a few times.

00:30:21.700 But they neglect to mention that she ran for the communists in 1984.

00:30:27.960 It's unbelievable.

00:30:30.240 I just don't understand why.

00:30:31.700 Talk about ignoring the elephant in the room.

00:30:34.600 But, you know, Kian, the way she handled herself on camera, she did an entire disservice to herself.

00:30:41.380 And so there's two things I got out of that interview.

00:30:44.180 First of all, how she could have turned that into a PR win is that if she actually granted you a brief interview and said,

00:30:51.080 you know what, I was younger then, I didn't have a worldview that I have now, I renounce communism,

00:30:57.760 she could have come clean and, you know, maybe a lot of people would give her a pass for that. 1.00

00:31:02.500 But she didn't.

00:31:03.440 And that suggests to me that maybe, I don't know, I can't read minds,

00:31:08.060 but maybe she still has a soft spot in her heart for communism.

00:31:12.860 But, you know, running as a communist party candidate in Canada, that's a no-hoper.

00:31:16.980 So she'll go, I don't know, commie light and run as an NDP candidate. 0.88

00:31:20.320 How do you see things?

00:31:22.860 Well, we've seen, Rachel Notley has talked about Anne McGrath.

00:31:26.900 She sent Anne McGrath to Calgary as sort of a message of hope to Calgarians back about two years ago,

00:31:35.180 halfway through their mandate.

00:31:36.860 Because remember, and for the viewers who don't know this,

00:31:40.320 the McDougal Centre was left empty for the first couple of years of the NDP mandate,

00:31:45.100 which was seen as a slight against Calgarians.

00:31:47.760 Calgarians saw that the government was operating out of Edmonton.

00:31:51.580 They didn't care about Calgary as much as Edmonton.

00:31:54.180 And this was just an NDP government that would put the Edmonton agenda above the rest of the province.

00:32:00.900 And finally, two years into their mandate, they send commie McGrath to run the McDougal Centre.

00:32:06.540 And that's what they thought was hope for Calgarians?

00:32:10.680 I don't believe it.

00:32:11.580 I don't buy it.

00:32:12.520 And I don't think Calgarians would buy it if they knew that she was a communist.

00:32:17.000 But the mainstream media isn't telling Calgarians.

00:32:19.160 I could talk to any of these folks here at this coffee shop with me and say,

00:32:22.780 do you know who Anne McGrath is?

00:32:23.540 We're in Anne McGrath's riding right now, actually.

00:32:25.460 I could say, do you know who Anne McGrath is?

00:32:26.960 And they might say, yeah, she's the NDP candidate. 1.00

00:32:29.700 But right when you ask them, did you know she's a commie,

00:32:32.000 as I did with a cyclist who was riding by as I was talking to Anne McGrath,

00:32:36.880 once you tell them that she was a communist, she's unelectable.

00:32:41.340 Nobody would vote for a communist.

00:32:42.360 And that's why the NDP has done such a good job at whipping the media

00:32:45.720 to make sure that they don't talk about this horrendous record of Anne McGrath's.

00:32:50.520 She's gone as far to censor us on Reddit. 1.00

00:32:53.180 Sorry if I'm carrying on here, but Anne McGrath has censored the rebel, 0.98

00:32:55.860 not just by calling the police on me a few days ago.

00:32:59.160 She has gone as far to make sure that nobody can post anything about her 0.56

00:33:03.380 on the link-sharing website Reddit.

00:33:06.620 She's gone as far, allegedly, to take signs off of people's lawns,

00:33:11.760 UCP signs off of people's lawns, and replace them with NDP signs.

00:33:15.260 I just interviewed a lady here in Calgary Varsity saying the exact same thing happened this morning.

00:33:20.220 She woke up, her son went out to her car, and saw an NDP sign on their lawn,

00:33:25.360 and they didn't know where their UCP sign went.

00:33:27.780 The Anne McGrath is only going to win this if her censorship wins. 1.00

00:33:31.120 Something has to change her. I don't know what it is.

00:33:33.340 I don't know what we can do to make sure that we get our message out.

00:33:35.740 I just, I'm at a loss.

00:33:37.480 But, Kian, that's fascinating what you just said.

00:33:39.920 I mean, I know in politics of all stripes, when it comes to vacant lots,

00:33:45.680 there's always one candidate ripping out somebody else's sign and putting their sign in.

00:33:50.080 But, like I said, it's a vacant lot or public property.

00:33:53.720 Are you telling me this candidate or her minions are running around this Calgary riding

00:33:58.960 and actually removing somebody's sign on private property and replacing it with one of her own?

00:34:06.340 Well, that's what this resident says.

00:34:07.900 I mean, I don't have any video evidence to prove it.

00:34:10.640 But a resident was very upset.

00:34:12.480 She showed me the NDP sign as evidence that it was on her lawn, and her UCP sign was gone.

00:34:18.360 She called the local UCP campaign asking for a new sign as a replacement.

00:34:23.100 She called the NDP campaign to complain, and the NDP said nothing.

00:34:27.700 And the UCP said that this is a reoccurring theme, that they had done this before.

00:34:31.700 Sure. It's all unverified.

00:34:33.300 I just got to say that for the lawyers that are probably listening from the NDP.

00:34:37.900 But it's unverified for now, other than the resident who has said it to me.

00:34:43.400 And there's a video out.

00:34:45.080 This will air on Friday.

00:34:46.620 We're filming it on Thursday.

00:34:47.540 But there's a video that will show up here on the Rebel website,

00:34:51.900 I think probably tonight or tomorrow morning, of my interview with her.

00:34:55.240 Viewers should definitely check that out.

00:34:56.840 We'll put it under www.annmcgrath.ca.

00:35:01.320 There you can see every video that I've done about Anne McGrath and with Anne McGrath.

00:35:06.520 We have to do something to expose her past because the mainstream media is not doing it.

00:35:11.920 And she's trying at every turn to censor us from doing our job.

00:35:16.480 Absolutely.

00:35:16.920 We've got to wrap it here.

00:35:18.260 One last exit question.

00:35:20.180 And that is, what did she hope to accomplish by calling the police?

00:35:24.400 I mean, there was nothing to charge you on.

00:35:27.480 To me, what it speaks of is a feeling of entitlement.

00:35:31.240 She's used to the media not reporting on her sordid past.

00:35:35.160 To me, it suggests she's still beholden to the idea of communism,

00:35:38.120 which tends to go hand in hand with authoritarianism,

00:35:42.100 that she can get the secret police, if you will, out,

00:35:46.020 and get rid of this pesky reporter. 1.00

00:35:48.120 Am I reading too much into this?

00:35:49.620 Or what was your interpretation?

00:35:51.800 I think it is straight-faced intimidation.

00:35:54.960 I think that Anne McGrath thought that dialing 9-0,

00:35:58.360 that if she dialed 9-1-1, that the Stasi would pick up.

00:36:01.480 I think that she thinks that the secret police are on speed dial.

00:36:05.980 That's what that's there for to her.

00:36:07.780 And I really think that she thought that when she flashed her,

00:36:11.760 I'm going to call the cops on you line, that I was just going to leave,

00:36:15.580 that I didn't have the commitment to follow through and make sure that she answered those questions.

00:36:20.540 Of course, she still failed to answer the majority of my questions,

00:36:23.820 but I think that she thought it was going to intimidate me away from asking questions.

00:36:28.740 That's what this is.

00:36:29.940 And if it happened to the CBC,

00:36:33.380 if a United Conservative Party candidate called the cops on a CBC,

00:36:38.100 like, all hell would break loose.

00:36:40.220 It's disgusting what Anne McGrath has done here to this writing, 0.95

00:36:45.140 and is going to do to this province if she gets elected. 1.00

00:36:47.340 Well, Kian, I guess in the final analysis, KGB does rhyme with NDP. 0.60

00:36:52.460 I know, that was a cheap shot, but we're going to have to wrap it there.

00:36:55.560 And Kian, thank you again for another excellent report, my friend.

00:36:59.740 Thanks for having me.

00:37:00.720 You got it.

00:37:01.620 And that was Kian Bexty in Calgary.

00:37:04.680 Stay with us, folks.

00:37:05.580 More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.

00:37:07.560 Basically, what this means is when stories are told truthfully with no agenda,

00:37:18.960 they're more likely to be conservative.

00:37:20.420 Think of any classic, I mean real classic movies.

00:37:23.100 How many of those movies are politically correct fad stories 0.99

00:37:26.360 in an attempt to score brownie points with the Academy?

00:37:28.600 Uh, none of them.

00:37:29.740 Now, this isn't exclusive to Christopher Nolan.

00:37:31.600 There are other directors in movies that are criticized for being conservative,

00:37:34.900 for not being properly woke enough.

00:37:36.960 But recently in Los Angeles, I attended the Dark Knight Trilogy event.

00:37:40.440 All three of the Dark Knight movies shown back to back to back

00:37:43.040 in unbelievable 70mm IMAX format.

00:37:46.500 And the nearly 11-hour event was freaking awesome.

00:37:49.400 But the best part of the event was Christopher Nolan actually attended

00:37:52.160 and spoke on these movies.

00:37:53.840 I recorded the interview and in response to the moderator,

00:37:56.560 specifically asking if his Batman movies were influenced after 9-11.

00:37:59.760 Now, I can only assume the moderator was asking such a bizarre question

00:38:03.060 to try to explain why conservatives always praise and beloved Nolan films.

00:38:08.020 And how the left often, uh, not so much.

00:38:10.620 From not casting diverse enough in the historical film Dunkirk,

00:38:14.260 to Salon even saying that The Dark Knight Rises was a fascist evil film.

00:38:18.700 Holy hysterical hyperbole, Batman.

00:38:21.780 The Dark Knight Rises is fascist?

00:38:24.820 And evil?

00:38:25.440 Gee, I thought The Dark Knight Rises was anti-fascist

00:38:29.360 given that the titular hero was going up against a villain

00:38:32.320 holding the entire city hostage.

00:38:35.400 Then again, given the antics of the leftist loons

00:38:38.140 who comprise the rank and file of Antifa,

00:38:41.120 maybe through their distorted lens,

00:38:43.040 it is Batman, rather than Bane, who is the bad guy.

00:38:47.260 And joining me now is our Tinseltown rebel, Ben Davies,

00:38:50.540 who recently took in a marathon screening of Christopher Nolan's superb Dark Knight trilogy.

00:38:57.180 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, Ben.

00:38:59.160 Hey, good to be here. How are you doing?

00:39:01.140 Oh, well, I'm kind of jealous,

00:39:02.700 because I would have loved them being where you were last week.

00:39:05.240 But, Ben, you know, once again,

00:39:07.940 we must talk about that double standard in Hollywood,

00:39:11.800 which is to say, if one is to inject a political narrative into a film,

00:39:16.220 it had better be a left-wing narrative,

00:39:19.240 because if it veers to the right,

00:39:22.060 then the likes of Salon are going to label the film as being evil.

00:39:27.640 What gives, boy wonder?

00:39:30.160 Right. I mean, it's basically like you're getting bonus points

00:39:32.900 for having a specific agenda,

00:39:34.560 and they'll forego or ignore problems with the film to say,

00:39:38.180 it's okay, this film wasn't what we thought it was,

00:39:40.120 but the message was so important.

00:39:42.780 You have to go watch it.

00:39:43.920 You see that all the time.

00:39:44.980 It's like it's what they tried to do that was important.

00:39:47.940 Then you have a great piece of work,

00:39:49.380 like some of these more conservative films,

00:39:50.860 and they get doxed and hit in every possible category,

00:39:53.460 and it's only because of that ideology,

00:39:55.600 and it's something that every moviegoer should go look out for,

00:39:58.660 which is why you've got to critique kind of your own movies,

00:40:00.360 or watch my reviews.

00:40:01.580 I feel like I'm pretty honest.

00:40:02.780 No, that's true, and I love them.

00:40:04.700 But, Ben, you know, tell me this.

00:40:06.380 Why is it, I mean, I find it downright perverse

00:40:09.120 that a movie that has a right-of-center narrative,

00:40:12.380 or to be more fair to Christopher Nolan,

00:40:15.480 something perceived by the audience to be right-of-center is labeled as evil.

00:40:22.100 Evil.

00:40:22.540 I mean, that's an incredibly strong, powerful, demeaning word

00:40:26.020 by those writing in the left-wing media.

00:40:30.380 How is that?

00:40:32.180 How can they even make that case to begin with?

00:40:34.540 It's shocking to me.

00:40:37.540 When I read that Salon review of The Dark Knight Rises,

00:40:39.980 it was horrible, the things they were saying.

00:40:42.100 The New York Times was a little bit more fair,

00:40:44.140 and they get around this because,

00:40:45.960 if you're anything, it's like your truth.

00:40:48.380 If you believe that this is the way the world is,

00:40:51.160 and this is like that power dynamics,

00:40:52.760 this is the patriarchy,

00:40:53.700 this is that oppressive, heteronormative stuff going on,

00:40:56.880 and then you speak kind of against that,

00:40:58.700 you're attacking that person,

00:40:59.920 and they'll call you evil.

00:41:01.260 And that's the thing with Christopher Nolan and his films,

00:41:03.380 specifically him, there's other directors that do this,

00:41:05.580 but I think when you try to make an honest film,

00:41:08.240 and the people behave the way normal people would,

00:41:10.640 in real situations, and their dialogue is not forced,

00:41:13.460 you know, where you're like,

00:41:13.920 why did that person say that makes no sense?

00:41:16.000 Not that kind of stuff.

00:41:17.200 Then it's going to be more in line with conservative values

00:41:20.140 by default, I believe,

00:41:21.680 because it's not so much based on the ideology,

00:41:23.620 it's based on the way that you perceive the world.

00:41:25.980 Yeah.

00:41:26.420 And, you know, Ben, I gotta tell you,

00:41:28.400 even though Christopher Nolan says

00:41:30.080 he was definitely not making a political statement,

00:41:32.120 my opinion, and I did a commentary on this a few years ago,

00:41:35.800 is that in the superhero genre,

00:41:38.280 The Dark Knight Rises is the most right-of-center film

00:41:41.920 you're going to get.

00:41:42.980 And I think, really, it's about redemption,

00:41:46.240 and it's about the choices people make,

00:41:48.800 i.e., when you're dealt a bad hand.

00:41:51.560 So, in the case of Bruce Wayne,

00:41:53.300 he takes that grief and becomes a superhero out of it.

00:41:56.240 In the case of Bane,

00:41:57.500 he becomes a villain and he wants to make others suffer

00:42:01.240 the way he did.

00:42:03.960 In a way, that's a lot of conservative ideology there.

00:42:08.420 So, you know, again,

00:42:10.200 if anyone hasn't seen this movie through that lens,

00:42:14.500 I suggest they should.

00:42:15.660 But it's just so telling

00:42:17.820 not to, you know, 0.62

00:42:19.620 hit a dead pony over the head 0.93

00:42:21.980 so many times

00:42:22.780 that a conservative value movie

00:42:24.940 or something right-of-center

00:42:26.080 would be deemed to be evil

00:42:28.300 by the usual suspects.

00:42:30.540 It is incredibly annoying.

00:42:32.300 And if anyone has not seen this trilogy,

00:42:34.020 you've got to go see it.

00:42:34.720 And you're right.

00:42:35.140 There are so many great values throughout it.

00:42:36.960 And it's a perfect book.

00:42:37.860 And the first movie is literally about somebody

00:42:39.740 taking personal responsibility

00:42:41.260 and living for something greater than themselves,

00:42:43.400 living for their community,

00:42:44.160 putting it all on them.

00:42:45.680 They're going to be that conduit.

00:42:46.620 And the second movie is a warning basically

00:42:48.220 against that battle between

00:42:49.180 if you're going to do that justice and order

00:42:51.040 and evil chaos, which is the Joker.

00:42:52.720 And it's mirrored perfectly with these two characters.

00:42:54.640 And we're kind of stuck in the city

00:42:55.940 with everyone else on these ferries

00:42:57.460 being like, okay,

00:42:58.080 what are we going to do about it?

00:42:59.100 And the third movie is a great example

00:43:00.420 of when good people decide to let slip

00:43:02.780 and we get comfortable in our castles

00:43:04.400 and they're not in wartime,

00:43:06.060 they're in peacetime, you know?

00:43:06.980 And that's when evil starts to rise

00:43:08.400 and you get complacent and say,

00:43:09.540 you know what?

00:43:10.000 We don't need these laws anymore.

00:43:11.580 We don't need these conservative values,

00:43:13.180 these principles.

00:43:13.720 We can just live the way we want to.

00:43:15.440 You know what?

00:43:15.640 This person has more money than me.

00:43:17.040 It's not fair.

00:43:18.040 We should tear it down

00:43:19.020 and we'll give everything back to the people, you.

00:43:21.880 And it ends up in chaos, tyranny, and genocide.

00:43:24.400 It's like that every single time.

00:43:25.700 And it's just a great bookend story

00:43:27.400 of the way Nolan told this whole little trilogy.

00:43:31.080 Yeah, indeed.

00:43:31.820 And let's not forget that

00:43:33.020 the time in which this was shot,

00:43:34.660 this was during the same time

00:43:36.820 in which Occupy Wall Street

00:43:39.260 and the Occupy movement around North America sprung up.

00:43:42.120 And I thought this was a rebuttal to that.

00:43:45.840 But tell me, you know, Ben,

00:43:46.820 I will argue with anyone

00:43:48.840 that the gold standard of superhero films

00:43:52.920 is the Dark Knight trilogy.

00:43:55.040 And I want to ask you something

00:43:57.640 as somebody who's a movie industry insider.

00:44:00.360 Will we ever see something like that again?

00:44:02.420 Right now, we're in the era

00:44:03.920 of the Disney superhero formula,

00:44:05.840 which seems to be every second line

00:44:08.400 uttered by a character is a punchline.

00:44:10.940 And then copious quantities of CGI special effects

00:44:15.020 to the point where I feel like I'm in a video game.

00:44:18.120 Do you think we'll ever see

00:44:19.840 any more superhero genre films

00:44:21.780 that are more rooted in realism

00:44:24.120 as the Dark Knight trilogy films were?

00:44:28.660 No.

00:44:29.540 And there's a few reasons for that.

00:44:31.220 The thing you mentioned with the jokes

00:44:32.840 and the explosions, the punchlines,

00:44:34.180 there's actually a formula that Disney...

00:44:36.360 That's why Josh Whedon stepped away from the Avengers

00:44:38.740 because he didn't like the restrictions

00:44:40.400 and the shackles of having to put a joke on this page

00:44:42.820 and then four more lines,

00:44:43.640 you need an explosion here, that kind of thing.

00:44:45.220 Like, literally, that was his beef

00:44:46.380 with the Avengers Age of Ultron.

00:44:48.020 What happened with the Dark Knight

00:44:49.120 was, I think, kind of a perfect storm

00:44:51.240 where you had a character

00:44:52.500 that is very rudimentary to all of us.

00:44:55.820 Like, the Batman story is such a hero's journey tale,

00:44:59.140 like losing everything

00:44:59.920 and then becoming something great of themselves.

00:45:01.280 It's just like a perfect conduit

00:45:02.400 to tell that kind of story.

00:45:03.160 And Nolan was the perfect director

00:45:05.440 to tell that story

00:45:06.700 and ground it in a way that works so well

00:45:09.140 for the world and how we see it.

00:45:11.440 Like, the way that we interact in the world itself.

00:45:13.000 Like, he studied so much psychology.

00:45:14.940 He quotes Carl Jung in the first movie.

00:45:18.680 And about a study,

00:45:20.000 he talked about this during that seminar I went to,

00:45:21.860 how much study he went into

00:45:23.320 trying to make these archetypal characters work

00:45:25.420 in the real world.

00:45:26.660 And I don't know if you'd get that again.

00:45:28.300 I think he had a lot of freedom

00:45:29.820 given that time when they started.

00:45:31.400 And I don't know if you'll see a director

00:45:33.500 have that kind of freedom again

00:45:34.520 with a big budget movie.

00:45:35.900 You know, that's so sad.

00:45:37.100 And I mean, and it speaks volumes

00:45:38.480 that years and years later

00:45:40.040 after these three films were released,

00:45:42.340 they can run them back to back to back.

00:45:45.360 And it's the hottest ticket to get in Los Angeles.

00:45:49.460 So, you know, that speaks about-

00:45:50.340 Sold out in five minutes.

00:45:51.420 Yeah.

00:45:52.240 And I guess we have to wrap it here, Ben.

00:45:54.700 But I will say, though,

00:45:55.620 that two days ago,

00:45:56.760 I saw the debut online of the Joker trailer.

00:46:00.420 And I know it's very dangerous

00:46:03.540 to judge what a movie can be from the trailer.

00:46:06.120 But you know what?

00:46:07.320 It seemed to resonate

00:46:08.880 that Christopher Nolan feel to it.

00:46:13.080 It's not coming out till October,

00:46:14.840 but does hope abound for this particular film?

00:46:18.660 I worry in the same way that I say

00:46:21.300 that we won't have the Dark Knight again

00:46:22.780 because of the way the central character is.

00:46:24.880 You're going to try to tell a story like that

00:46:26.680 and have this central person 0.96

00:46:27.940 be a maniacal maniac 0.97

00:46:30.100 who's just draped in malevolence. 0.72

00:46:33.060 I mean, I don't know how you would make

00:46:34.680 a compelling story like that.

00:46:35.980 I think it could be really entertaining

00:46:37.100 and I think it could be interesting

00:46:38.340 because you're right,

00:46:39.020 they did shoot at that kind of dark tone

00:46:40.820 and the mon-sensei feels very Nolan-esque.

00:46:43.080 But I just don't know

00:46:43.720 if you're going to get the same experience

00:46:44.960 because a hero is only as good as the villain

00:46:47.280 and the villain is only as good

00:46:48.400 as the hero you pick them up against.

00:46:49.460 It's like that balance of the Dark Knight,

00:46:51.240 for instance.

00:46:51.960 And I don't know how you're going to do that

00:46:53.060 with this

00:46:53.440 and then try to root for the Joker,

00:46:55.040 I guess,

00:46:55.520 if he's going to be the central character.

00:46:56.640 I don't know.

00:46:57.220 I think it could be interesting

00:46:58.540 but I'm not holding my breath.

00:47:00.660 Well, it could be interesting

00:47:01.480 and I know it is,

00:47:02.300 the film is based on the 1988 graphic novel

00:47:06.140 The Killing Joke

00:47:07.320 which was absolutely superb

00:47:08.860 and Al Moore written a tome.

00:47:11.660 So we'll keep our fingers crossed

00:47:13.500 and let's hope the dark side,

00:47:18.060 the intelligent side,

00:47:19.140 the moody side,

00:47:20.380 the spiritual side of superhero films

00:47:22.660 come back in the days ahead.

00:47:24.940 Ben, thank you so much

00:47:25.900 for that wonderful commentary.

00:47:28.540 For sure, man.

00:47:29.100 Thanks for having me.

00:47:29.900 You got it.

00:47:30.860 And that was Ben Davies in Hollywood.

00:47:33.180 Keep it here, folks.

00:47:33.900 More of Rebel Roundup to come

00:47:35.000 right after this.

00:47:43.320 Yet in the aftermath of the Hark's fiasco,

00:47:46.180 two gargantuan questions must be answered.

00:47:48.660 Number one,

00:47:49.100 how did such a monster qualify for release

00:47:52.380 in the first place?

00:47:53.700 Look at his crimes.

00:47:54.840 Look at his lack of remorse.

00:47:56.620 Look at the expectation for him to re-offend.

00:48:00.020 And still, he was set free?

00:48:02.900 And number two,

00:48:03.720 I steadfast refuse to use the she pronoun

00:48:06.920 in describing Matthew Hart,

00:48:09.220 who now looks like a young John Candy in drag.

00:48:12.780 Please don't give me any transphobia lecture here. 1.00

00:48:15.980 Not only does this woman have a functioning penis, 1.00

00:48:20.420 he has also refused to take estrogen shots, 0.99

00:48:23.680 which is part of the typical process in transitioning.

00:48:28.400 Remember, his victims were little girls,

00:48:30.720 and he undoubtedly still lusts after little girls.

00:48:34.140 And he was looking for female dates online.

00:48:37.840 And yet we're all supposed to pretend he is a she 1.00

00:48:40.740 and put the community at risk,

00:48:43.060 all to save some trans snowflake from getting offended. 0.63

00:48:47.660 And we're all supposed to buy into the fact that 0.95

00:48:49.980 the word of a pedophile should carry the day.

00:48:54.540 Did anyone at Correctional Services Canada

00:48:57.300 perhaps think Hark's was pretending to be a female?

00:49:02.160 I mean, what better way to finagle himself

00:49:04.940 into areas where little girls might be

00:49:07.700 from change rooms to washrooms?

00:49:10.300 Well, that didn't take long now, did it?

00:49:13.240 Barely a week after being inexplicably relocated

00:49:17.020 to a Brampton, Ontario halfway house, 0.89

00:49:19.660 child rapist Matthew Harkes, 0.75

00:49:21.920 who now goes by the name Madeline Harkes,

00:49:25.060 apparently violated the terms of his parole conditions.

00:49:28.680 As such, Mr. Slash Mrs. Harkes

00:49:31.660 has been removed from the female halfway house 1.00

00:49:33.940 he was residing in.

00:49:34.960 That's right, a woman's halfway house 1.00

00:49:37.640 that just happened to be located

00:49:39.320 near schools, daycare facilities,

00:49:42.320 and community centres.

00:49:43.800 Amazing.

00:49:45.000 Thankfully, he's now back in the Crowbar Motel.

00:49:48.880 Hope he rots there, but I wouldn't bet on it.

00:49:51.940 And in the event, here's what some of you had to say

00:49:54.300 about the folks at Correctional Services Canada

00:49:56.940 putting yet another community at risk

00:49:59.840 so that an unapologetic monster

00:50:02.480 might somehow be rehabilitated.

00:50:06.700 Jedgar writes,

00:50:07.700 First off, if the crimes were committed as a male,

00:50:11.320 he should be jailed as a male. 1.00

00:50:13.400 Secondly, now he can be declared a dangerous offender

00:50:16.420 and never, ever see the outside again.

00:50:19.700 As plain as the nose on your face,

00:50:21.960 if he is jailed with females,

00:50:23.880 you will be having a heyday in the showers.

00:50:26.180 Well, you know, you raise many good points, Jedgar.

00:50:28.920 Alas, I somehow doubt

00:50:30.620 he'll be declared a dangerous offender

00:50:32.880 even though I would designate him as such

00:50:35.740 in a heartbeat.

00:50:37.200 And yes, what about the born female inmates

00:50:40.460 at female halfway houses and female prisons? 1.00

00:50:43.620 Don't they have the right to a safe space?

00:50:46.360 Well, thanks to political correctness run amok,

00:50:49.440 apparently the answer is no, they do not.

00:50:52.360 Michelle Weiss writes,

00:50:55.120 I live in Brampton,

00:50:56.080 about 10 minutes away from where he was placed.

00:50:58.660 I lost my mind when I heard

00:51:00.580 where he was going to be.

00:51:02.080 That halfway house is minutes 1.00

00:51:03.620 from a major park and wading pool,

00:51:06.340 schools.

00:51:07.220 It was just unbelievable.

00:51:09.600 So glad he's gone.

00:51:10.620 Now I'm not nauseated by the thought

00:51:12.780 of taking my nine-year-old daughter downtown.

00:51:15.020 Well, any more than usual.

00:51:17.620 Indeed, Michelle,

00:51:18.400 it boggles the mind

00:51:19.520 that Correctional Services Canada

00:51:21.080 thought this was a good idea.

00:51:23.020 But then again,

00:51:23.720 if Hark's re-offended

00:51:24.840 by victimizing yet another little girl,

00:51:28.600 do you think any heads would roll

00:51:30.020 at Correctional Services Canada?

00:51:32.200 Not a chance.

00:51:33.180 They would just chalk it up to a bad call

00:51:35.160 and continue releasing dangerous offenders

00:51:38.500 into the community.

00:51:40.240 It's nauseating.

00:51:41.900 Trevor Trevor writes, 0.96

00:51:43.520 you are pedophobic. 0.76

00:51:45.700 Well, I'm guessing this is sarcasm,

00:51:47.760 Trevor Trevor, but then again,

00:51:49.720 perhaps it's only a matter of time

00:51:51.240 before the so-called pedophile community

00:51:53.820 makes a case for acceptance.

00:51:56.480 I point to NAMBLA, 1.00

00:51:57.620 the North American Man-Boy Love Association.

00:52:00.840 They've rebranded pedophilia

00:52:02.220 as intergenerational love.

00:52:04.800 I think the vast majority

00:52:06.120 of reasonable people

00:52:07.220 have a profound problem

00:52:09.060 with those who champion

00:52:10.620 intergenerational love.

00:52:12.320 And if we are branded

00:52:14.520 as pedophobic, 0.55

00:52:16.340 then so be it.

00:52:18.480 Alan Anderson writes,

00:52:20.640 is it hard to understand?

00:52:22.400 He is a she-lesbian. 0.99

00:52:24.240 Well, how odd.

00:52:25.280 Hark's was indeed born male

00:52:26.840 and has always lusted

00:52:28.160 after young girls.

00:52:29.740 Now he claims to be a she, 0.99

00:52:32.760 but still lussed

00:52:34.480 after young girls.

00:52:35.500 So I guess he went 0.95

00:52:37.280 from a heterosexual pedophile 1.00

00:52:39.320 to a lesbian pedophile 1.00

00:52:41.520 once he started identifying 1.00

00:52:43.060 as a female.

00:52:45.000 Man, I am more confused than ever.

00:52:48.820 And Bike Cycle writes,

00:52:50.460 pedophiles cannot be cured at all.

00:52:52.720 They really have lost their right 0.88

00:52:53.960 to be among regular people

00:52:55.260 in society permanently.

00:52:57.460 This was a disaster

00:52:58.560 waiting to happen,

00:52:59.640 but they don't care

00:53:00.620 because it's someone else's child

00:53:02.340 who will suffer.

00:53:03.380 You know, you're right, Bike Cycle.

00:53:05.380 I mean, can you imagine

00:53:06.820 being a mature adult 0.96

00:53:08.540 who sexually lusts 0.81

00:53:10.500 after children? 0.95

00:53:11.840 I think that's a fate

00:53:13.060 worse than death,

00:53:13.880 to be quite frank.

00:53:14.640 And since this condition

00:53:16.020 is not curable,

00:53:18.120 surely the only answer

00:53:19.480 is locking up pedophiles 0.66

00:53:20.980 indefinitely,

00:53:21.860 both for our protection

00:53:23.200 and theirs.

00:53:24.860 Yet to release such a predator

00:53:26.660 into society

00:53:27.780 who is flagged at a high risk

00:53:30.100 to re-offend again

00:53:31.800 and then to pretend

00:53:33.400 that he is a she?

00:53:36.200 Wow.

00:53:37.260 Talk about a recipe

00:53:38.300 for disaster.

00:53:39.860 Well, that wraps up

00:53:40.960 another edition

00:53:41.520 of Rebel Roundup.

00:53:42.380 Thanks so much

00:53:42.880 for joining us.

00:53:43.620 See you next week.

00:53:44.400 And hey, folks,

00:53:45.040 never forget,

00:53:46.200 without risk,

00:53:46.900 there can be no glory.

00:53:48.200 Good night.

00:53:48.620 We'll see you next week.

Rebel News Podcast - April 06, 2019

Rebel Roundup： Guests Ezra Levant, Keean Bexte, & Ben Davies!

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