Rebel News Podcast - Rebel Roundup： Guests Kurt Schlichter, Ben Davies & Ezra Levant

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you, in which we look back at

00:00:04.720 some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favourite Rebels. I'm your host, David Menzies.

00:00:10.720 Well, it's official. GM's Oshawa Assembly Plant is shutting down. And worse yet, you can expect

00:00:17.720 more misery for the Canadian auto sector should Justin Trudeau get his way with a carbon tax.

00:00:24.240 Ezra Levent will serve up all the gruesome details.

00:00:27.040 And the migrant caravan has made it all the way to the U.S. border, and now the street

00:00:32.640 theatre begins for the media. But are these Central American refugees fleeing oppression,

00:00:38.740 or are they opportunists simply hoping to game the system? Kurt Schlichter will offer his take.

00:00:46.580 And perhaps the late missionary John Alan Chow was foolhardy by deciding to spread the gospel

00:00:53.040 in a very dangerous place. Still, it is disturbing to see how his death is being covered by the media

00:01:00.760 in certain quarters. Ben Davies shall explain all.

00:01:04.720 And finally, we get your letters every minute of every day, and I'll share some of the letters we

00:01:10.300 received regarding my Q&A session with attendees who were going to a speaking event in Toronto,

00:01:17.220 featuring Bill and Hillary Clinton. Let's just say this, most didn't appreciate my so-called

00:01:24.980 inappropriate questions. Those are your rebels, now let's round them up.

00:01:30.040 Let me read from the Wall Street Journal, because these days, if you want honest reporting about

00:01:41.320 something in Canada, you can't really trust Canadian media, because they're all in on the

00:01:45.420 payroll of Justin Trudeau, or are about to be with his $595 million slush fund.

00:01:51.300 So this was printed on the Yahoo Finance website, but as you can see, it was written by the Wall Street

00:01:57.060 Journal. Headline, General Motors expected to shut down operations in Oshawa, Ontario.

00:02:02.340 Now, the story says that GM is cutting costs in a lot of places, including in the U.S.,

00:02:06.420 but let me read to you a line that I haven't seen in the CBC or CTV or any other Trudeau media outlet.

00:02:14.640 Canada's auto industry, which is concentrated in southern Ontario, has shrunk over the past decade

00:02:19.480 as more factories move to the southern U.S. and Mexico, where labor costs are cheaper.

00:02:23.640 However, Canadian policymakers had hoped the United States-Mexico-Canada agreement, reached

00:02:30.080 in late September with provisions requiring more work be done by higher wage workers, would

00:02:34.360 help the domestic industry. Today, Canada is among the most expensive countries in the world

00:02:42.300 to build cars, and the highest cost market for car assembly in the North American free trade zone.

00:02:48.280 Huh. Here's what Buzz Hargrove, a past president of the Canadian auto workers, had to say. He lived and

00:02:55.780 breathed auto workers for years. He didn't hang out quite as much flying around on Justin Trudeau's

00:03:02.400 private jets in his day, in the prime minister of his day. Here's what Buzz Hargrove said in the Sun

00:03:08.200 today. He said former Canadian auto workers head Buzz Hargrove told the Sun news of the closure left

00:03:14.720 him reeling. I'm shocked, he said. It seems like Trump's strategy is working beyond belief.

00:03:21.880 Exactly. And who do you think is going to get better? Do you think it's going to get better or worse

00:03:26.360 when Justin Trudeau's national carbon tax kit kicks in? We're talking about costs of production here,

00:03:31.660 aren't we? Whereas Donald Trump is actually cutting taxes. And he says, if anything, he's going to cut

00:03:38.000 taxes more and reduce red tape more for the auto industry. Remember, he's been talking about getting

00:03:42.020 rid of the extremely expensive fuel efficiency standards that's forced on Detroit. Now, this is

00:03:48.460 happening on Justin Trudeau's watch. It seems to happen a lot with him. Well, from General Motors to

00:03:53.920 Government Motors to Goodbye Motors, GM is rolling out of Oshawa after a century of making cars and

00:04:02.180 trucks here. Nothing can be done to save this assembly plant, as well as other GM plants located in

00:04:08.680 Michigan, Ohio and Maryland that are also being mothballed. Yet looking ahead to the future, if you

00:04:14.960 were an auto executive looking to put a plant in North America, where would you go? To the U.S. where

00:04:20.860 Donald Trump is cutting taxes and red tape, or to Canada, where Justin Trudeau seems hell-bent

00:04:27.260 on establishing a carbon tax, regardless of the economic consequences. Joining me now with more

00:04:33.880 on this story is Rebel Commander Ezra Levant. Welcome to Rebel Roundup, Ezra. And you know,

00:04:38.280 Ezra, there are so many angles to this story, but I think this is an important one. Moving forward,

00:04:45.820 Ontario is a manufacturing province, or at least what's a manufacturing province.

00:04:49.920 A carbon tax is cancer to the manufacturing process. We saw this tragic announcement on

00:04:57.900 Monday, and yet Justin Trudeau, he's not backing down from this, is he?

00:05:01.700 Yeah. Well, there's a few things going on. First of all, you have taxes in general in Canada,

00:05:06.720 and business taxes are now higher here than they are in the United States. That's a big deal.

00:05:12.460 Donald Trump made huge tax cuts in January. Second of all, electricity prices, power prices in Ontario

00:05:18.400 are amongst the highest in North America, whereas they're actually falling in the United States

00:05:23.220 because fracking has so much cheap natural gas that's really cut the prices of power, gas, etc.

00:05:29.220 And then the carbon tax hits everything. It also hits car users themselves. I mean,

00:05:37.840 so there's about three or four ways. Canada is now the highest cost place to build a car in North

00:05:44.920 America. It's obviously more expensive than Mexico, but now it's more expensive than even,

00:05:50.660 you know, Michigan, Ohio, whatever. And then finally, what I've just said is a snapshot of today.

00:05:56.760 But in two or three or four years, do you think things will be easier or harder in Canada? Because

00:06:04.340 if you're going to invest a billion dollars or make a decision to produce a certain

00:06:09.000 product line, like the new Jeep truck, for example, if you're going to commit to five or ten years of

00:06:16.760 producing that, you're not just looking at taxes today, you're looking at things in five,

00:06:20.980 ten years. Do you think that it will be easier or harder to do business in Canada in five years

00:06:27.380 versus in Donald Trump's America? And everyone knows the answer to that. I want to disagree with

00:06:34.120 one small thing you said. Sure.

00:06:36.300 I actually don't think it's a certainty that that plant is closing. And the reason I say that is

00:06:42.320 because I think GM has learned a little bit from Bombardier. And if they can manage to wring out

00:06:51.880 half a billion dollars from Trudeau, maybe a quarter billion from Doug Ford, all of a sudden that

00:06:59.040 changes the math we've just been talking about. But haven't they already wrung out from us,

00:07:04.900 the taxpayer, billions of dollars as well? I mean- And that's proof that they know they can do it.

00:07:09.260 Yeah. That's a precedent. And they'll just go back for round two, three, four, five, six, seven.

00:07:13.060 And you know, I had a commentary. I was looking at the big picture. I would argue that the rot

00:07:17.740 actually set in in the early 70s. There were seismic things happening in the auto industry.

00:07:22.800 You had the establishment of OPEC. So cheap gasoline is over. You had the Environmental Protection

00:07:27.980 Agency established circa 1973. That brought an end to the American muscle car. And then you had a

00:07:34.360 corporate culture at GM, Ezra, union entitlement, cowardly management, a complete lack of vision

00:07:41.980 by senior executives in terms of grasping the trends where the auto industry was going,

00:07:47.500 all the while under the knowledge that we are, quote, too big to fail, that if we skid off the road,

00:07:55.240 there is a taxpayer-funded safety net. So my argument to you, Ezra, is that as a company,

00:08:00.120 what is the incentive to get it right if you know you're going to be bailed out?

00:08:04.640 Well, and that's the thing that Ford, sorry, Ford didn't take the bailout. Chrysler and GM

00:08:09.180 took a huge bailout a decade ago. And frankly, Stephen Harper was part of that, along with Dalton

00:08:15.880 McGinty. Now, you can understand why, because Barack Obama was bailing out on such a massive scale.

00:08:20.140 And if Canada didn't bail out proportionately, Obama would have just said, look, I'm giving you guys

00:08:24.580 50 billion or whatever it is. You're shutting down everything in Canada because they're not chipping 1.00

00:08:28.280 in pro rata. So that, I think Harper had to do that or the entire auto industry would have been

00:08:33.840 shut down in Canada. I'm not making excuses for him. I'm just trying to understand why Harper would

00:08:38.300 do something so luxurious. But wait a minute, can I challenge you on that, Ezra? Because you have

00:08:43.500 very successful, very productive, very profitable non-union plants here in Ontario, a Honda, Toyota,

00:08:50.580 the only Lexus plant outside of Japan in the world is here in southern Ontario.

00:08:54.380 Those were the next words out of my mouth. I was going to point out that the companies,

00:08:58.400 I mean, Ford didn't take the bailout, but note that I didn't mention those automakers that have

00:09:04.160 factories in North America. I didn't know the fact you just said about Lexus, but I know that in the

00:09:09.200 United States, especially in lower cost, less unionized jurisdictions, they have profitable,

00:09:15.600 modern, rewarding, successful automakers that are not stuck in that old mindset. There used to be a

00:09:23.400 saying in the 50s, what's good for GM is good for America. And it was, there was a lot of truth

00:09:28.420 to it because GM was big enough that it would be sensitive to any problems in the economy, taxes,

00:09:34.340 regulations, whatever. And everything was going, all the arrows were in the right direction.

00:09:38.300 But then it became bombardierized and unionified. And yeah, a lot of things went wrong.

00:09:45.600 I think that the GM, if I looked into the details a little bit, they have some obligations in that

00:09:56.300 plant that lasts for another year. I think in that year, you will see negotiations, probably not as

00:10:03.120 much publicly as privately. And look, GM's not dumb. They saw what Bombardier got away with. They saw what

00:10:10.140 Maple Leaf Foods just got away with in Ontario. They know that the Liberals are stupid. Liberals 1.00

00:10:17.400 just overpaid a billion dollars for a 70-year-old pipeline called the Trans Mountain Pipeline.

00:10:23.580 If you were the CEO of GM, wouldn't you say, well, before we shut down, let's have a private meeting

00:10:31.760 with Trudeau and Bill Morneau and just say, look, it's just another billion. You've already got a huge,

00:10:36.860 just throw it on the fire. Throw another bale of hundreds on fire. 0.95

00:10:39.480 But if I'm the CEO of Canada, i.e. the Prime Minister, and by the way, this is one of the

00:10:44.700 biggest rounds of applause Maxime Bernier got in Toronto when he was outlining his platform,

00:10:50.580 no more corporate welfare. The answer is no. Bombardier, I mean, they can't deliver to the

00:10:56.900 Toronto Transit Commission promised streetcars. In England, their name is mud for over-promising

00:11:03.360 and under-delivering.

00:11:04.020 And around the world, you just Google the words Bombardier corruption.

00:11:07.420 Yeah.

00:11:07.920 They're charged with corruption and in many cases convicted in many jurisdictions around

00:11:11.820 the world. They are an awful company, but they are extremely successful at one thing.

00:11:16.540 They're not that great at airplanes, not that great at streetcars, not that great at a lot

00:11:20.200 of things, but they're extremely good at separating Canadian liberal politicians from Canadian taxpayers'

00:11:27.060 dollars to their direction. The political lobbying unit of Bombardier is probably pound for pound

00:11:34.320 of the most profitable corporate unit in the entire country. Think about it. They probably

00:11:39.120 have 20 people, and they have liberated billions of dollars from the feds, from the provinces.

00:11:44.980 I think those are the most enriching people in the entire company. You've got to salute them.

00:11:50.880 And if I was GM, I'd say, well, can I hire those Bombardier, you know, necromancers? Because

00:11:58.700 Justin Trudeau would love to come in and say, I saved it. And by the way, we've got an election

00:12:05.720 coming up in less than a year. Trudeau would love to come in and say, I have saved it. And

00:12:10.500 you know what? That riding of Oshawa has voted conservative for more than a decade, for a long

00:12:17.800 time, actually. And the liberals do very poorly there. If Justin Trudeau came in with Jerry Diaz,

00:12:25.200 the head of Unifor, and maybe even the CEO of GM Canada, and he said, I am here to save the day,

00:12:32.880 maybe he'd flip the seat. And maybe he would say, yeah, I'll spend half a billion dollars to pick up

00:12:38.480 an MP. Maybe he'd do that. It's a fascinating theory. But at the end of the day, you know,

00:12:43.440 as I'm kind of a car guy, I used to cover cars in the mainstream media. When you look at GM right

00:12:49.160 now in North America, they have too many plants operating just one shift. Yeah, they got a million

00:12:54.660 cars over capacity in their factories. And making too many of the wrong kind of cars. In Oshawa,

00:12:59.740 their bread and butter car is the Chevy Impala. That, by the way, is a very good car. Here's the

00:13:04.900 problem. Last year, they made less than 76,000. And it has become what's known as a fleet vehicle.

00:13:10.700 It's a relatively low profit margin car that goes to car rental companies and taxi companies. I mean,

00:13:17.020 when have you last seen a late model Chevy Impala on the road? Whereas where the biggest growth segment

00:13:22.420 is in the auto industry is small crossovers. And to me, again, I go back to the fact that, you know,

00:13:28.480 the year I was born, 1962, General Motors in North America has over 50% market share. Every second

00:13:35.140 car was a GM. And how they've gone from that to taking their eye off the ball. And again,

00:13:41.100 aided and abetted by taxpayer welfare. I say enough is enough. Let nature do its course.

00:13:46.680 Yeah. Well, listen, that's what you say. And the nature of politicians is to the contrary of that.

00:13:54.660 I've heard, you know, there's the old saying, politics is the art of plucking the chicken

00:14:00.400 with as few squawks as possible. Or if you can pluck a feather from 30 million Canadians

00:14:10.040 and give it to GM, like if you can have the pain as diffuse as possible, but the riches as acute as

00:14:18.120 possible, you're going to get a vote here and you'll lose a tiny bit of support out there.

00:14:22.440 But you get a big success here in Oshawa. I just think that we have a fairly corrupt

00:14:29.180 government in Ottawa. And I don't even think they're hiding their nature. Everything,

00:14:36.420 I just saw in the Globe and Mail the other day, it was a headline, a new capitalism.

00:14:43.420 Justin Trudeau and Bill Morneau has invented a new capitalism. Yeah, that's not capital. That's

00:14:48.780 crony capitalism. That's old school payoffs, bailouts, crony capitalism, feather betting.

00:14:57.820 Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not saying it's a done deal, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit of

00:15:05.060 Trudeau came in, painted himself the industrial hero to save the day.

00:15:08.080 Well, we'll keep an eye on this file, Ezra. We have to wrap it here. And folks, of course,

00:15:11.760 you know my personal GM story. In 1980, I sold my comic book collection for a U74 Chevy Camaro

00:15:18.600 to get a date at high school. Not only did the Camaro fail in its mandate, but that comic book

00:15:24.380 collection today, valuable enough to buy a Ferrari off the lot. So thanks, GM. Anyways, keep it here.

00:15:31.320 More of Rubble Roundup to come after this.

00:15:41.420 Well, our border's in crisis. And why is it in crisis? Because left-wing agitators are prompting

00:15:46.420 a whole bunch of Central Americans to come north and do the same kind of garbage that the Palestinians 1.00

00:15:52.360 do outside of Gaza. Yeah, it's all a show. It's all Hollywood. It's all designed to make those 1.00

00:15:58.900 photos happen. You know, the photo of the woman with the two kids and the bear feed. And they've

00:16:03.660 got the tear gas. And oh, my God. Why are you bringing your freaking barefooted kids to a freaking

00:16:10.440 riot, you hack? You criminal. You scumbag. This isn't a mother. This is a dirt bag. And she's 1.00

00:16:17.240 allowing herself to be manipulated. And you're now allowing yourself to be manipulated if you buy

00:16:23.480 any of it. Because it's crap. It's garbage. It's trash. This is our country. It does not belong 1.00

00:16:30.280 to Hondurans. It does not belong to Guatemalans. It does not belong to Mexicans or El Salvadorans. 0.85

00:16:34.840 It doesn't belong to any of them. It belongs to us. We make the laws. And the laws say,

00:16:39.480 you don't climb over the damn fence. At the end of the day, we either have laws or we don't. 0.99

00:16:46.960 Leftists don't want us to have laws. At least not laws that we pass. They want laws that they pass

00:16:51.980 that they enforce. Make no mistake, folks. This is an invasion. Yes, the migrants in the caravan

00:16:58.600 are not weaponized. But when uninvited guests are trying to illegally barge into another country,

00:17:05.640 well, if that's not the definition of an invasion, I don't know what is. Joining me now with more on

00:17:13.100 what looks like the end of the roadshow for the migrant caravan is Kurt Schlichter. Welcome to

00:17:18.680 Rebel Roundup, Kurt. Hey, thanks for having me. Always a pleasure. Now, Kurt, as you know,

00:17:24.100 earlier this month, we traveled down to southern Mexico and we followed this caravan for five full

00:17:29.060 days. So I've seen firsthand what this is all about. And first things first, about 90% of this

00:17:36.840 caravan is comprised of able-bodied young men. But it's kind of funny, isn't it? When they get to the

00:17:43.520 U.S. border, the 10% who are women and children are moved to the front of the line because I guess

00:17:49.080 that makes for better photo ops, doesn't it? I know. Isn't it remarkable? It almost reminds you

00:17:54.500 of Gaza. I mean, look, this is a giant scam and I just don't think it's working. I think we've gotten 0.98

00:18:00.840 so jaded by being lied to for so long. You know, they had the picture of that, well, she wasn't quite

00:18:07.500 starving mother with her kids without shoes, wearing diapers at like age 10. And that's like

00:18:14.220 the photo. And I think they thought, well, this will tug at those Rubes heartstrings. And we all

00:18:19.120 looked at it and we're thinking, first of all, homegirl needs to go on a diet. Second of all,

00:18:24.260 why are you bringing your kids to a riot? Third of all, maybe you should get some shoes. Fourth of all,

00:18:31.060 go to hell. You can't come in our country. I just don't think it worked. 1.00

00:18:34.220 Indeed. Now, Kurt, how would you respond to the liberals and the progressives out there

00:18:39.540 that say things like, we have a moral obligation to help the downtrodden? That if you look at the

00:18:47.340 birth rates in so many Western countries, they are so low, we need more immigration. How would you 1.00

00:18:54.380 respond to that? Well, you know, first of all, I married an immigrant. My wife was literally a

00:19:01.040 Hispanic immigrant, a legal one. So I, you know, when you, when you start telling me about the

00:19:07.380 importance of immigration, it's just a hack cliche to me. I live the, the, the dream of America for,

00:19:14.860 for immigrants every day. And, and, and my family came over and my family, you know, immediately

00:19:21.300 joined the military. You know, my, my wife's father, my wife's brother, she waved goodbye to me when I went

00:19:27.660 off to serve our country for 16 months while she had a six month old kid. So I, you know, I don't

00:19:33.160 need immigrants or good lessons. Okay. I've, I've lived the magic of legal immigrants who actually 1.00

00:19:38.940 contribute to our country. Uh, the second thing I would say is no, no, this is our country. And we

00:19:47.220 get to decide who comes in based on whatever criteria we choose. And I happen to choose, will

00:19:53.120 you be useful to us? My moral responsibility is primarily to my family and my country and not to

00:20:03.660 their families and their countries. Their countries are hell holes. I want to ensure that when we allow 1.00

00:20:10.900 people to come here, they are not going to bring the crummy values that turn their countries into open

00:20:16.140 sewers here to impose them on us. I live in California. I've seen the magic happen. I know what

00:20:23.640 happens. Indeed. And you know what, one of our segments, uh, Kurt, is that when we were following the

00:20:28.780 caravan in Southern Mexico from town to town, when they were put up, when they left the next day, the

00:20:34.520 literal mountains of trash left behind. I mean, they, they couldn't be, be bothered, even though they had all

00:20:40.960 this time on their hands to simply clean up after themselves. But you know, the thing is, I, I, and I think

00:20:46.860 it's important for all the liberals out there. It's that we're not, we're not necessarily anti-immigration.

00:20:53.600 We're, we're anti-illegal immigration. My grandparents came to Canada from Scotland in 1946 after the Second

00:21:01.540 World War, but they went through the proper channels, Kurt. And I mean, this idea of entitlement, because when I

00:21:08.700 asked people there, why don't you emigrate to the U.S. legally, like thousands attempt to do every week,

00:21:15.640 the question was, it takes too long and it costs too much money. I'm sorry. I don't have sympathy for

00:21:20.920 that. No, uh, you don't get to break our rules and then come here and not have us say no. Now, I, I

00:21:29.900 understand why liberals want them here. They think these are, uh, pliable peasants who will vote as 0.89

00:21:35.340 instructed. And in California, that's worked. Uh, they want to replace this uppity voter base of, uh, you know,

00:21:44.020 patriotic Americans who naturally, you know, look askance at the Democrats and their idiot socialist policy. So I, 1.00

00:21:51.420 I get why they want to do it. I'm just not going to let them. They just don't get to do it. And, you know, I don't need

00:21:57.800 a bunch of, um, college student jerks trying to lecture me on morals. I can go upstairs and show 0.99

00:22:04.180 you my ribbon rack on my uniform of where I went to foreign countries at the expense of my career and

00:22:10.540 time with my family to help save foreigners from disasters largely of their own making. Uh, so I, 0.95

00:22:17.620 I don't need lessons from these people about what it is to help. All I see is posing. Oh, I sit here

00:22:23.480 over cliches. And, um, I say, no, I say, you don't get to come here unless you get my permission.

00:22:30.640 And to get my permission, you have to earn it. What's in it for me. And also the U S has to worry

00:22:37.260 about setting a precedent. If this caravan was let in Kurt, there would be a caravan every week from

00:22:43.340 all over the world, uh, coming to the United States. But you know, I want to get your thoughts

00:22:47.560 on this. What I noticed in, uh, by getting embedded in the caravan earlier this month,

00:22:53.040 Kurt, is that the United Nations has resources committed to this caravan. They have people on

00:22:59.040 the ground. And I thought it was perversely ironic that U S taxpayers with their tax dollars are

00:23:05.800 essentially funding this invasion of their own country. What's your take? Well, that's, that's 0.57

00:23:11.620 pretty typical. I mean, you know, we, we, we tend, you know, liberals tend to get in positions where

00:23:16.880 they can direct money. So we end up directing it to, you know, Palestinian terrorists, various

00:23:21.740 other scumbags around the world. And then these criminals. And, um, you know, we need to wise up. 1.00

00:23:28.360 That's one of the things I like about Trump is he says the things you're not supposed to say,

00:23:32.260 like, Hey, wait a minute. Why are we giving money to Hamas and the PLO? They just murdered an American.

00:23:38.740 Why are we doing that? And, and, you know, you're not supposed to say those things,

00:23:43.680 but I think it's important to say the things that people don't want said. In fact, those are the

00:23:48.900 only things really worth saying because the rest are just cliches. And Kurt, I want to get your take

00:23:54.360 too on the media coverage of this caravan. Uh, I'll throw out two nuggets for you. First of all,

00:24:01.080 when, um, CBC here reported that when the caravan was 5,000 people, 2,300 were children. Now I can tell

00:24:10.220 you that that is a factual statement. If your definition of a child is someone under the age

00:24:15.800 of 35, as opposed to 18. Secondly, the guardian last month reported that the real reason for this,

00:24:23.020 uh, migrant caravan is climate change, right? And they base that hypothesis on the fact that,

00:24:30.600 uh, a couple of anecdotes of farmers having two crop failures in a row. But I would say that crop

00:24:36.420 failures have been part of farming since, oh, I don't know, the invention of farming.

00:24:40.360 What do you make of this narrative that we're seeing from the mainstream media, Kurt?

00:24:46.920 I don't think people are buying it. Look, everybody knows the media is a liberal transcription service

00:24:51.500 and that they're liars. Everything they say is presumptively a lie. And I think people are

00:24:56.240 getting woke to it again. One of the great services of Donald Trump is to accurately point out that the

00:25:01.200 media is the enemy of the people. It is the enemy of the people. It is the tool of the elite,

00:25:05.220 it is the weapon of the elite. And the weapon is being wielded against the people. And they hate

00:25:12.000 that because they, they, they love the idea that they've assumed the moral high ground, but they

00:25:16.220 haven't. They're a bunch of liars, dirtbag and scumbags. And everything you see on the media, 1.00

00:25:22.100 you must presume is a lie designed to fool you into supporting liberal causes. If you, if you go into

00:25:29.680 it that way, you're, you're, you're not going to be fooled.

00:25:33.920 A hundred percent, Kurt. We're going to have to wrap it there. And I would argue once again,

00:25:37.240 that a nation without borders and a nation that doesn't enforce its borders,

00:25:41.740 it really isn't much of a nation, not in any kind of meaningful sense.

00:25:47.180 That's true. That's true. Borders make a country.

00:25:51.460 Kurt, thank you so much.

00:25:53.680 Thank you.

00:25:54.240 You got it. And folks, keep it here. More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.

00:26:05.700 We've all seen these media slants, right? Like a free speech rally is attacked by Antifa. And

00:26:10.400 many in the mainstream media will say free speech rally people incite violence. And you're like,

00:26:14.780 wait, what? Who came there to attack? Wait, do Antifa rallies get attacked? Do pride marches get

00:26:19.460 attacked? Do pro-abortion marches get shut down? No.

00:26:22.500 The right almost never, if ever, attacks other events. But somehow, someway, it's the right's

00:26:28.100 fault. The right just brings it on itself. And in this tragic story, John Cho, the American

00:26:32.560 missionary, was killed after he reached North Sentinel Island, which is banned from outside

00:26:36.540 contact and is illegal to travel to, which is probably why you haven't heard of it. And John

00:26:40.020 was killed when he reached the island by the native people, the Sentinelese, who have been isolated and

00:26:44.180 cut off from the world for thousands of years. So how would the mainstream media paint this story?

00:26:48.820 Well, USA Today was pretty clear, leading with a headline saying, quote, American on misplaced

00:26:53.120 adventure killed by hostile tribes on a remote island. Very subtle. NBC said, quote, American

00:26:58.380 killed by isolated tribe on India's North Sentinel Island, police say. And then they lead it with, 0.98

00:27:03.220 quote, an American adventurer who kayaked to a remote Indian island populated by a tribe known for

00:27:08.120 shooting outsiders with bows and arrows has been killed, police say, Wednesday. Yeah, this adventurer

00:27:12.680 got what was coming to him. And LA Times leads with its first, quote, calling John an American

00:27:17.260 tourist. The mainstream media is quick to lump John's actions into an adventure seeker, a tourist

00:27:22.400 or a risk taker, painting the story for the readers that John's acts were all self-seeking,

00:27:27.120 self-serving, risking his life solely for the thrill. And I guess he just got what was coming

00:27:31.140 to him. Well, let me give you some more details from his actual journals and the last entries of

00:27:35.680 it. John said, quote, I'm scared watching the sunset and it's beautiful, crying a bit, wondering if it'll be

00:27:40.280 the last sunset I see, unquote. Quote, you guys may think I'm crazy in all this, but I think it's

00:27:44.740 worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. God, I don't want to die, unquote. And despite knowing

00:27:50.340 the danger, John had been planning this trip for three years, as mentioned by a friend to the Daily

00:27:54.900 Mail to, quote, preach Christianity to the tribesmen. Yeah, it really sounds like he was trying to get an 0.90

00:27:58.920 adrenaline rush, right? And on his final day, the fisherman who dropped a mouth said, quote,

00:28:02.880 John found himself facing a flurry of arrows, but he kept walking. Clearly, John Allen Chow was a man on a

00:28:09.240 mission, and that mission did not go very well indeed. Now, was it foolhardy and downright dangerous

00:28:16.660 to go to North Sentinel Island in the first place? Perhaps. But by the same token, there seems to be a

00:28:22.780 degree of glee in certain quarters, including those in the mainstream media who appear to be gloating

00:28:28.460 over Mr. Chow's demise. And that's not right either. And with more on the horrible death of John Chow,

00:28:35.600 I'm joined now by our Tinseltown rebel, Ben Davies. Welcome to Rebel Roundup, Ben.

00:28:41.800 Oh, it's good to be here. Thanks for having me. A pleasure as always. But Ben, I have to be honest

00:28:45.640 with you here. I'm struggling with this story. Mr. Chow went to an extremely dangerous place,

00:28:54.300 and a place that's actually illegal to visit. He was smuggled there by a fisherman, and he knew that.

00:28:59.560 My question is this. Could he have not gone somewhere else that was more receptive to his

00:29:05.920 missionary work, or at least to a place that wasn't going to result in a death sentence for him?

00:29:13.100 Oh, absolutely. I mean, there are like hundreds of thousands, millions of missionaries all over the

00:29:17.340 world that do this kind of work constantly. I work with several organizations like Amazimam Ministries

00:29:22.180 that goes into Uganda, where we went up into the mountains where people had literally never seen a

00:29:26.460 white person before. And for kids whose parents have died of AIDS, we would take them in and

00:29:31.000 take them to school and give them two meals a day when they were just living in the dirt, basically.

00:29:34.840 And there's organizations like this all over the world that do incredible good.

00:29:38.020 And these were things that John Chow had done, like he'd done missions work before.

00:29:41.760 But this was the first time he's like, well, these people, like no one has been able to reach these

00:29:44.960 people. They've been living isolated for years. And he wanted to spread the word and the gospel to

00:29:49.400 them and give them hope in a future. And that was his goal, whether you believe his intentions or not.

00:29:53.460 That was kind of what his mission was. What I think is so fascinating is looking back on this,

00:29:58.120 this is the most controversial video I've ever put on The Rebel. I have more dislikes on this video

00:30:03.400 than ever before and more comments than ever before. And I think it's so interesting because

00:30:07.780 I think there's two questions here. The first thing that I could reach out to for people that

00:30:12.660 didn't like the video specifically because, you know, there was a bunch of people attacking

00:30:15.880 Christianity. If you are watching The Rebel, I'm sure you are a fan of the West. And that's one of the

00:30:20.080 things I talked about. It's why the media is slanting this a certain way for John Chow.

00:30:24.040 And it's if there is an attack on Christianity and Judeo-Christian principles, they are attacking

00:30:28.460 Western civilization. That's the reason why they're doing it. And I was talking about the way they

00:30:31.680 were framing John when they were describing him as an adventure seeker or a tourist or something

00:30:36.600 like that, and specifically not demeaning the reason why he was there. And that's the reason why

00:30:40.680 they were going there. And I think the people that were disliking my video, half it, I was just

00:30:45.300 talking about the way the media is attacking this would attack increased Christian beliefs

00:30:49.660 and Christian principles. And that inflated with the people go to a tribe area that has

00:30:55.860 not been immune to diseases. Then I think those were two things that really got people going

00:31:01.040 upon the video.

00:31:02.940 But you know, Ben, subtracting the religion out of it here, it's just the fact that he seemed

00:31:08.840 to be going to a place where he wanted to save people where clearly they don't want to

00:31:14.420 be saved. And I mean, and I have some sympathy for these people. Evidently, if you go back to

00:31:19.720 1858, the population was over 5000. The last credible number they have is from 1931, 460 decimated

00:31:28.660 by diseases. I mean, I guess it's one thing to spread the gospel. It's another thing if you're going

00:31:33.400 to spread measles. And this is why these people are saying, look, leave us alone. We don't want any

00:31:41.640 outside interference. They tried to kill a shipwrecked Belgian crew in 1981. Only heavy waters

00:31:51.400 prevented them from doing so. In 1974, a National Geographic film crew was there. The cameraman

00:31:56.980 ended up with an arrow in his ankle. They have said time and time again, don't come here. So again,

00:32:03.500 I asked you, Ben, why go there?

00:32:08.360 Yeah, like I said, in my video specifically, I wasn't condoning people to do what John did. I

00:32:13.660 wasn't saying to anyone, go to this island, like break the law and do this sort of thing.

00:32:18.580 And to answer your question, why, if you feel like there's a calling on your heart from God,

00:32:22.520 you're going to follow through with it. And that was, and so I wasn't questioning his motives

00:32:27.860 necessarily. And that was why he was, I guess, going to this place in the first place. His friends

00:32:31.920 said he'd been playing this trip for three years. I was more pointing out that obviously I was not

00:32:37.980 condoning people going to the island. I was just saying that it would be very, very different if

00:32:41.460 this was not a Christian missionary, if this was a radical feminism trying to empower women on the 1.00

00:32:45.780 island, like she would be martyred as a hero. We'd have a national holiday. But since it was a

00:32:49.820 Christian missionary, it was kind of almost made fun of or mocked for him going over there. But yeah,

00:32:54.660 I mean, the people obviously want to be isolated and this is something that is dangerous,

00:32:59.500 but it was not like he was a colonizer, which is what he was called to, trying to get this island

00:33:03.440 to plant a flag. He was walking into arrow fire with his hands out because he wanted to help the

00:33:08.240 people. I think it's almost disrespectful the way it was framed by many in the media.

00:33:14.180 But you know, Ben, if I throw it out to you again, I mean, in a way, another reason why I have

00:33:18.440 sympathy for these people is that they're pursuing a narrative that we support, which is border control

00:33:24.400 and preventing illegals from coming into your territory. And that's what they did here. Now, 1.00

00:33:30.640 did this man deserve a death sentence? Absolutely not. But those are the rules of engagement that

00:33:39.080 this tribe operates under. So again, just like the U.S. is protecting its border on Mexico right now 0.81

00:33:46.500 from some 5,000 migrants from Central America getting in, this is what the Central East protecting 0.56

00:33:52.400 their territory too, is it not? Oh, absolutely. And that's why they're not going to be charged with

00:33:58.220 murder. I know they're trying to retrieve the body now. And yeah, that's a very separate issue

00:34:04.960 in that front. Yeah, protecting your borders and that sort of thing. Like that wasn't something that

00:34:09.480 I was disputing in that at all. And he was willing to take the risk and face the death sentence for

00:34:15.580 doing that. And I guess they had the right to defend their borders and kill him. And that's why 0.99

00:34:18.780 they're not going to be charged with anything from the India. Obviously, there's no government

00:34:22.220 influence over there. There's no technology or anything. But I mean, he knew the risk and that's

00:34:26.160 and that was what happened. Well, I guess we'll wrap it here, Ben. I think I always try to look

00:34:30.760 for a silver lining in any kind of tragedy. And I really feel for this man. He didn't deserve to

00:34:35.720 pay for his with his life. He made a stupid decision to go there, but he doesn't deserve, 1.00

00:34:40.500 I think, to get the kind of hate on mocking he's receiving. But having said that, maybe the silver 1.00

00:34:45.560 lining is his example is a telltale warning sign to anyone else, for whatever reason that wants to

00:34:53.140 go there, you are not welcome for any reason. Stay away or pay the ultimate price.

00:34:59.700 Yeah. And I would encourage people, too, because obviously people talk about doing disease or

00:35:05.340 injecting disease in different cultures and stuff. There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of 0.97

00:35:09.440 examples that complete opposite happening with other civilizations, including a great movie called

00:35:12.960 The End of the Spear with Harani tribe in Honduras that were isolated as well. And after the 0.83

00:35:17.440 missionaries were killed, their children and wives would come back and befriended these people and

00:35:21.360 brought them into civilization. It completely transformed the area. So it's but so I want to

00:35:25.780 also have that, too. And also, yeah, obviously, if this is a dangerous place, it's illegal to go to

00:35:30.420 stay away. Gotcha. Thanks so much, Ben. You're welcome. And folks, keep it here. More of Rebel Roundup to come

00:35:38.200 right after this.

00:35:42.960 Well, Bill and Hillary Clinton are in Toronto to give a talk here at the Scotiabank arena. And it's

00:35:52.680 about 35 minutes to showtime. As you can see, folks, it's not exactly Leafs versus Canadians on a

00:36:00.920 Saturday night or for that matter, a Trump rally. Still, the question arises, why are Bill and Hillary

00:36:08.880 Clinton in Toronto in the first place? And secondly, who would buy a ticket for this event, some of which

00:36:15.680 are selling for over $400?

00:36:18.600 Let's try to find out from some of the Democratic fans. Hey, guys, are you here to see the Clintons?

00:36:25.400 Yes. Yeah. What brings you out, ma'am?

00:36:27.320 Oh, just we're interested to watching them. Oh, OK, then. Say, listen, we're wondering, in this

00:36:32.280 Me Too era, how come they haven't apologized to Monica Lewinsky yet?

00:36:35.920 No comment. Say, guys, are you coming to the Clinton event?

00:36:45.640 We are, we are. OK, what brings you out to see them, sir?

00:36:48.640 Well, we just rather admire them. That's all. They're very good.

00:36:53.360 What makes you admire the Clintons? Well, I think Bill Clinton was one of the best presidents they

00:36:58.160 ever had. You know, he's a very smart man, did a great job. I think his wife would have done a

00:37:04.320 great job, too, if that other guy hadn't shown up. Tell me, sir, in this day and age of the Me Too

00:37:09.760 movement, why do you think Bill Clinton has yet to apologize to Monica Lewinsky?

00:37:14.360 I know. No opinion there. No opinion? No. No. OK. Oh, just wondering what brings you out, ma'am?

00:37:20.680 I'm interested in the Clintons. Oh, OK, then. Now, tell me, you know, one of the questions we're

00:37:24.760 asking people is that since we're living in the Me Too era, why do you think Bill Clinton hasn't

00:37:29.400 apologized to Monica Lewinsky yet? I'm not going to comment on Bill Clinton. No. Oh. Hey, guys,

00:37:35.560 are you going to the Clinton event? Yes, I am. Oh, great. What brings you out, ma'am?

00:37:39.880 Well, we're very interested in American politics and the Clintons certainly are at the center of that.

00:37:44.280 That's for sure. How about yourself, sir? Well, the same thing and also a once-in-a-lifetime

00:37:48.040 chance to see someone like an ex-president of the United States that doesn't come along,

00:37:52.520 you know, too often to have this chance. Tell me, in this day and age of the Me Too movement,

00:37:58.600 why do you think Bill Clinton has yet to apologize to Monica Lewinsky?

00:38:02.440 No, no, we're fine, we're fine. No, no, move. No, no, no.

00:38:06.520 What happened? He was the only one to get caught. He was, he just did what all the other presidents

00:38:11.080 did before him. Oh, OK, then. So everybody that's occupied the Oval Office has been doing

00:38:16.920 that with young interns? Sadly, yes. Really? OK. How about yourself, ma'am? You're a woman,

00:38:22.360 you've got skin in the game when it comes to sexual harassment. I don't think anybody has skin in, 0.82

00:38:26.760 sorry, I don't think anybody has skin in the game when it comes to sexual harassment. If you'd like

00:38:32.600 to apologize for what you've said... What did I say? Totally fine. But I think that's wildly

00:38:37.560 inappropriate to call sexual harassment a game by any means. Is there more inappropriate what

00:38:44.440 Bill Clinton did to... And maybe use your words a little bit more wisely with somebody else.

00:38:48.440 OK. Holy shoot, the messenger Batman. Well, the Billery show hit Toronto earlier this week and

00:38:57.080 plenty of good seats went unsold. But as you saw, Clinton fans run for the hills when you bring up

00:39:04.360 that other L word, Lewinsky. So much for female empowerment, I guess, when it comes to the slobbering 1.00

00:39:11.480 love affair so many on the left have for the Clinton duo. In any event, here's what some of you had to

00:39:18.600 say about the inability of attendees to comment on certain somewhat embarrassing topics. Wayne Milligan

00:39:27.000 writes, the Clinton crime family can't draw flies even in downtown Toronto. Gotta love the collection of

00:39:34.440 perfectly quaffed progressive geriatrics in their furs and pearls who didn't want to talk about Bill's

00:39:41.160 sexual harassment of the intern Monica, let alone the rape of Juanita Broderick, Hillary's pay-to-play 1.00

00:39:48.280 State Department, and the blatant tax evasion of the Clinton Foundation. These progressive fools 1.00

00:39:54.920 wasting their time and money listening to two of the most corrupt politicians in American history. 0.99

00:40:02.360 Hey Wayne, you bring up so many superb points about other Clinton-esque scandals, but as you saw,

00:40:09.080 these people came for a session of sanitized for your protection happy talk, even though there are

00:40:16.280 more skeletons in the Clinton closet than you'd find at the local graveyard. Joe Exxon writes,

00:40:24.280 of this I am certain, Donald Trump comes to the liberal stronghold Toronto, he sells out immediately.

00:40:31.080 You know, I bet you're right, Joe, I also bet the usual suspects, ranging from hardcore feminists to Antifa,

00:40:39.080 would try to make things miserable for attendees going to a Trump event in Toronto. On the flip side,

00:40:45.000 I did not encounter a single protester regarding the Clinton event. Funny that, eh?

00:40:51.720 Sharon Isaac writes, Monica Lewinsky is the least of Clinton's crimes. You know what, Sharon? 0.99

00:40:58.120 The worst thing I can say about that statement is that you are likely 100% correct, such as the sheer

00:41:05.240 magnitude of Clinton chicanery. And Mr. Tragic Dragon writes, OMG, the level of stupid is so high,

00:41:14.600 I had to bang my head repeatedly on my desk just to make the pain stop. Hey, careful, Mr. Tragic Dragon, 1.00

00:41:22.520 that sort of behavior will turn you into a card-carrying Democrat. Well, that wraps up another

00:41:28.520 edition of Rebel Roundup. Thanks so much for joining us. See you next week. And hey, folks,

00:41:32.760 never forget, without risk, there can be no glory. Good night.

Rebel News Podcast - December 01, 2018

Rebel Roundup： Guests Kurt Schlichter, Ben Davies & Ezra Levant

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