Join Lise Merle and Sheila Gunn-Reed as they chat with United Conservative Party candidate Grant Abraham about the upcoming Battle River-Crowfoot by-election, and why he's wearing a double-breasted jacket.
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00:02:48.360Now, the reason we are in double-breasted jackets is because our guest wore a double-breasted jacket last week in the Battle River Crowfoot candidates forum.
00:02:59.560Now, I don't want to say all candidates forum, because last time I checked, there were somewhere 210 of them.
00:03:04.100But he is one of the 10 that were on this stage.
00:03:08.320And the reason I wanted to have Grant onto the live stream to answer our questions live, and you may have figured out I'm talking about Grant Abraham from the United Party.
00:03:20.520The reason I wanted to have him on is because we said some things on the live stream that I don't think were necessarily wrong, but Grant has a different viewpoint.
00:03:29.700And unlike Rosie Barton over at the CBC, I believe in the right of reply.
00:03:35.000And so, I made those comments live as I watched Grant live, so I thought, why not have him on live to have his say?
00:03:42.340So, let's bring our guest on right now, Grant Abraham.
00:03:46.280He's the leader of the United Party, not to be confused with the UCP, the United Conservative Party here in Alberta.
00:03:54.800And he is a candidate in the Battle River Crowfoot by-election, wherein Conservative leader Pierre Polyev is running.
00:04:02.360Grant, thanks so much for coming on the show.
00:04:05.480I know we sort of put it together short notice, but we're just really grateful to have you on the show.
00:04:33.080And I'm running in this by-election because I've been watching what's been going on in our country
00:04:39.440basically since 2015, but essentially since 2018.
00:04:43.880And there's things that I can't square with what's happening in relation to Canada becoming a first post-nation state
00:04:50.720or Canada being reset by COVID or the rampant foreign interference
00:04:57.340or Mark Carney and Chrystia Freeland tripping over each other to confirm that we're going to become a New World Order, you know, sub-state.
00:05:09.080And I just thought, why isn't the Conservative part?
00:05:27.160You know, is there even a future for this country when we don't have a budget?
00:05:30.500We don't know what our national debt is.
00:05:33.020You know, whatever problem you want to talk about.
00:05:34.780So I thought it's high time to actually have an alternative to the establishment Conservative Party from Western Canada
00:05:45.380that is actually contending for the liberty of all Canadians.
00:05:48.720And the way I see Canada right now, I know it's a bit cliche to say this, but Canada is broken.
00:05:55.780It's on the way to becoming a failed state.
00:05:59.000And the only piece that is economically salvageable and sustainable and has the strength, will, grit, faith, tenacity to actually forge a new nation is Alberta.
00:06:11.160And in forging that new nation, potentially liberate the rest of the Canadians that are being dragged along by the chaos of the Liberal actions and the Conservative inactions.
00:06:22.280That's a great, no, that's a great, no, that's great.
00:06:29.100And it's a great place to sort of put us at a place where I want to show a clip from the forum.
00:06:35.020I think it was from your opening statement, because I have some questions about it that I just will ask when you're, you know, after we watch it, I'll put it to you.
00:06:43.740But you, we describe it as unleashing your thoughts on the current state of Canada during the Battle River Crowfoot by-election debate.
00:07:03.380Actually, I did have a lot of problems with many things that you said.
00:07:07.440I'm here because I've spent a lifetime watching elections be decided in Thunder Bay, Ontario.
00:07:14.660And I've watched the West have the raw end of our structure in our constitution.
00:07:22.080And I think that what we're really looking at here in Alberta right now is a discussion between what Canada we want to have.
00:07:29.260If it's the one that has had the West paying for the pandering to Ontario and Quebec, or whether it's one that wants to see an Alberta strong, free, and independent that can actually stand up and make a difference in this world and actually redefine Canada.
00:07:46.820And so my discussion tonight, my platform is about a strong and sovereign Alberta and its independence.
00:07:53.260And I think there's a lot of things in Canada that we're not talking about in relation to the public forum.
00:07:59.840And I believe that farmers are producers and not polluters.
00:08:04.700I believe that oil and LNG are a requirement for human prosperity.
00:08:10.200I believe that reverse racism is racism.
00:08:14.140I believe the nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to humanity.
00:08:19.060I believe that compelled speech is not a Canadian value.
00:08:23.880I believe that multiculturalism has failed.
00:08:27.280And I believe that there are only two sexes.
00:08:30.560One of the challenges that we have here tonight is that there's a lot of trust.
00:08:34.440And I had my trust in the Conservative Party of Canada as well.
00:08:38.480But we are facing a threat in this nation of post-nationalism.
00:08:42.160And in this last 10 years, we've had Justin Trudeau commit to Canada being the first post-nation state.
00:08:48.160We've had a severe undermining foreign interference.
00:08:52.360And Justin Trudeau has told us that COVID would provide an opportunity for a reset.
00:08:58.220There has not been one challenge to the...
00:09:16.940I love Canada, but I'm seeing that we have a very rotten basement with parasites.
00:09:24.080And the redemption of Canada starts in Alberta.
00:09:27.500And we're going to have to deal with the imbalance and broken system that's in this country.
00:09:32.280And recognize the West was set up as a colony of a colony.
00:09:37.100And it's time for radical reformative change in this country.
00:09:45.020And this is a discussion about the two values, two Canadas, the two systems that we're being confronted with in this nation.
00:09:53.760And when I look at all of the systems, whether it's the Supreme, the activist Supreme Court, a two-tier policing system, or the complete inability to be able to ever bring constitutional change in the existing infrastructure, I just think that it's time for a conversation about, if you want to use the word separatism, we can do that.
00:10:16.720I think that's kind of a populist word, but the actual language that I prefer to use technically is self-determination.
00:10:25.920We need to establish a constitutional republic in this country.
00:10:28.980We need to secure our inalienable rights within that constitution that can't be tampered with by courts that decide they want to be activists and change it.
00:10:38.320And we need to firmly align our people with those values of the new nation.
00:10:42.840And then watch the grass get green and the economic prosperity and the human flourishing happen.
00:10:48.920When we do that, the wheels are going to fall off the rest of this country.
00:10:52.400And they're going to be looking over the fence at this new nation and saying, how do we sign up?
00:10:58.000But they'll be joining under the constitutional framework that we set.
00:11:21.440But I'm really just expanding upon that.
00:11:24.300Self-determination is a term that's used in international law that allows a nation to self-determine its future away from perhaps another.
00:11:34.060Another framework of nationhood like we're in.
00:11:38.640And I use sovereignty because there's legislation out there in Canada's history that has actually in many ways liberated Alberta and the other provinces as well to determine their constitutional futures.
00:11:51.200But we've never actually activated and engaged it.
00:13:15.860And this conversation is not just a conversation for Ottawa.
00:13:18.720This is a conversation for international, really from an international legal perspective.
00:13:24.880And I think that in some way, that's where APP is right in terms of engaging Canadians to process through this understanding of a referendum because it's moving us to a shared knowledge.
00:13:36.760And I believe, I actually, this is a very live conversation right now in Alberta.
00:13:42.840There are bigger discussions for us than just a discussion about a referendum.
00:13:49.620I think we also need to be looking back at some of our historical legislation that has severed the sovereign connection of the British government over Canada.
00:14:02.080A lot of people like to say that that's quackery.
00:14:04.960That's one quote that I've heard recently.
00:14:06.820It's an interesting thing because while, and I'm referring for all of you, and you can probably ask me this in a minute, what are you referring to?
00:14:15.100I'm referring to the Westminster Act, 1931.
00:14:18.220And people have identified that as being such an old piece of legislation or a piece of legislation that our courts won't recognize or whatever.
00:14:27.020And the reality is that we've had a real challenge in this last five years, haven't we, in relation to having our own Charter of Rights and Freedoms and Constitution recognized in our courts.
00:14:38.420Brian Peckford tried to go to the Supreme Court to clarify an amazingly clear argument that should have been obvious for Canadians, but the court wouldn't even hear it.
00:14:47.720And so this question about Alberta sovereignty really flows back to 1931.
00:14:55.260And that's kind of probably quite a constitutional and boring conversation for us in the amount of time we have.
00:15:01.580But I will say this, that same six pages of paper gave the four and a half million people in Ireland a constitutional republic in 1931.
00:15:11.920So if anyone thinks it's quackery, maybe they need to write to the people of the Republic of Ireland and ask them how a constitutional republic has felt for the last 96 years because it was the same piece of paper and authority, legal legitimacy of that document that actually gave them their constitutional republic because they appropriated and exercised it.
00:15:37.140So there's a broader conversation here, probably bigger than the time we have.
00:15:44.660But you're telling us that there is an ancient piece of legislation that could actually help Alberta and Saskatchewan in this specific circumstance.
00:15:54.380Yeah, I hope I haven't got you guys in trouble talking about that.
00:15:56.580No, no, not at all. Not at all. We're all writing it down. Westminster Act 1931.
00:16:01.960So can we talk about some of the other things that you said, Grant?
00:16:05.260Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Before we move on, I just want to have us all respond.
00:16:09.180I haven't watched this yet, so I'm coming in cold too.
00:16:12.220Pierre Polyev responding to somebody asking him why shouldn't the West separate?
00:16:19.840And that has really been a question that Corey Morgan of the Western Standard, who also wrote the Sovereignist Handbook,
00:16:25.840he asks people, you know, under the current conditions, if a 2025 Albertan living in free, I don't know, Rupert's land,
00:16:36.260would they join Canadian Confederation today under the existing agreement?
00:16:41.760And when you put it to people like that, you're hard-pressed to find somebody who says yes.
00:16:45.740And so I think this lady asks Polyev a similar question, and he gives a very Federalist answer from what I understand, but let's all watch together.
00:16:56.360What would you say to someone like me who has a young family and has seen more hope in the idea of a landlocked Western Canada than a never-ending level of government?
00:17:06.600The liberal government owns the media, they run the universities, they have no shame or integrity.
00:17:12.080It feels like the game is rigged and that the East will always decide on fate.
00:17:15.660Why should Alberta and Saskatchewan stay?
00:17:18.760That's a fair question. A very fair question.
00:17:21.560I frankly understand the frustration that people feel.
00:17:26.420The liberals in Ottawa have told the West to pay up and shut up.
00:17:30.940They've attacked Alberta and Saskatchewan's biggest industries of agriculture, oil and gas, to name a few.
00:17:39.920And they have transferred massive wealth out of this region.
00:17:43.760So all of those concerns are legitimate.
00:17:46.100The question is, how do we deal with it?
00:17:47.680I believe the answer is in building alliances with like-minded Canadians across the country.
00:17:54.100So for example, Alberta and Saskatchewan should lock arms with Newfoundland, which wants to repeal C-69 so that it can double its oil production.
00:18:03.360Newfoundland got off equalization by producing offshore oil.
00:18:07.720We should lock arms with them to do that.
00:18:09.960You have the First Nations communities along with the British Columbia coast that want to build at least a half dozen LNG liquefaction plants to take Alberta's gas, liquefy it, put it on a ship, send it off to 2.5 billion customers in Asia,
00:18:26.800and get $14 for a billion metric per British thermal units instead of $3.
00:18:30.640That would bring on tens of billions of dollars of wealth for our people across the oil and gas regions of this country.
00:18:39.520We should team up with the people in the greater Toronto area who want to see a massive crackdown on crime by toughening up the criminal justice system because they're seeing the chaos in their streets.
00:18:52.820We should build alliances with, and you know, you might be surprised to hear me say this.
00:18:58.460Quebec wants to have a smaller, weaker federal government so that they can have more autonomy over their provincial decisions.
00:19:04.640We should team up with them and say every province, including Alberta and Saskatchewan, should have more autonomy by having less power concentrated in Ottawa.
00:19:14.940Now you might say that sounds great, but when is it ever going to happen?
00:19:18.360Well, it did happen. I described the nightmare that happened under the Pierre Elliott-Trudeau period.
00:19:23.940But a few years later, we got a conservative government that brought in free trade with the United States, which was a massive boom for the Prairies, by the way.
00:19:31.580It got rid of the National Energy Program, privatized or got rid of about 25 different federal government agencies and bodies,
00:19:41.140reduced the size of the federal government in relative terms by roughly half.
00:19:44.720And in the period following 1984 to 2015, Alberta became pretty much the richest place anywhere in the world.
00:19:54.380And so it was by building alliances with other regions of the country that we were able to get what we wanted.
00:20:35.240The one thing he didn't address in there is that all of these alliances that we can build with like-minded people across this country are easily overrun by an activist court.
00:20:50.260And I'll point to you a great example of this very close to home for me, literally just up the road.
00:20:58.740And that's the Northern Gateway Pipeline.
00:21:00.220It was approved after meeting all, I think it was 209 conditions set forward by the A-Political National Energy Board.
00:21:08.780And that was in 2014 under Harper, completely approved.
00:21:18.540The Federal Court of Appeal overturned the approval.
00:21:21.880And then the project was abandoned in 2016 because they just couldn't see a way through the court system, even though it met all the technical requirements, 209 of them to get the project done.
00:21:34.740So, we can have all the buy-in all along the way when you have outside activists overturning the will of the people, really, to get these projects done.
00:21:46.760So, I don't, it seems, that all seems very nice, this solidarity with our fellow Canadians, but it also seems pretty naive and a little bit ignorant of history.
00:22:00.220So, you know, when I listen to that, you have him talking about alliances with other provinces, but he actually, if you listen closely, he's talking about alliances and Newfoundland getting off equalization.
00:22:15.000This country runs on equalization payments.
00:22:18.540It's not about other provinces getting off equalization.
00:22:21.840It's about Alberta stopping subsidizing Central Canada $20 billion a year.
00:22:27.640So, that's great that they're getting off.
00:22:29.040We don't want to be subsidizing economies, other provinces that lack the motivation or agenda to actually develop their own resources.
00:22:40.760And that's one of the big challenges in Quebec because they won't actually liberate their own resources.
00:22:47.980So, you know, those kinds of alliances are great for other provinces to get off equalization because we're the ones paying equalization.
00:22:55.780So, CPC did all these great things over the years, but they also brought in Agenda 2030.
00:23:02.780And Agenda 2030 is that kind of corrosive ideological impulse that's actually undermining our municipal, provincial, federal laws.
00:23:12.780We, you know, the most interesting one that I've policy shaping that I've seen of that is a county in Ontario where they're trying to figure out the square footage of barns in the agricultural community so that they can calculate that by the annual rainfall and then tax the water displacement that runs off.
00:23:32.600That's an Agenda 2030, that's making farmers poor, that's making our food prices go up, that's creating a centralized codependence on the government.
00:24:30.560And the ideological shadow that we're getting over Western Canada is actually destroying our culture, values, and traditions.
00:24:39.420And we're seeing terrible things happening in terms of the nuclear family.
00:24:44.240We're seeing things happen in terms of the normalization of pedophilia, the sexualization of our children.
00:24:50.040We can talk about this economically, but you can have a lot of money and still live in hell.
00:24:54.740And that's not the Canada that we want.
00:24:56.920You're touching on one of the things that we've done a lot of talking about, and it's the adoption of fiscal conservatism, but not social conservatism.
00:25:06.360And one of the things that you said in your speech that was so interesting to me was that you believe there are two sexes.
00:25:13.120Now, if we just look back to Dr. Leslie Lewis is a conservative MP, and she said last week,
00:25:22.080we must protect the sex-based rights and safety of women and girls, and we can do so while respecting the dignity of every individual,
00:25:29.740including those that express a different gender identity.
00:25:33.220What do you have to say to statements like that, Grant, where we have so-called conservatives saying that they believe in biological reality for women and girls,
00:25:43.680but we also must protect the dignity of people that express a different gender identity.
00:29:20.340And I appreciate that because we had 11 MPs in this federal election that were the direct agents of or under the influence of foreign interference.
00:29:47.160So, I thought maybe I'm getting something wrong here.
00:29:50.060So, I went back and read the Security of Information Act.
00:29:53.020And Polyev, if he is told something in secret, and we also know that the government abuses what's secret.
00:30:02.700So, if Polyev gets a security clearance and he is given a briefing on stuff that is deemed to be secret, that's stamped secret, he cannot talk about it unless it is already before the House of Commons.
00:30:18.560Or he is breaking the Security of Information Act.
00:30:25.220And I also know that there are, you know, people in the Conservative Party who have received this high-level security clearance.
00:30:32.880The Conservatives have told on themselves when they thought things were happening.
00:30:38.680Like, Victor, oh, we know that he was a problem because the Conservatives told on him.
00:30:42.500And so, I just don't know how we could know about those 11 parliamentarians if Polyev subjected himself to this security clearance, which, as we know, he had before.
00:30:58.140So, he's pretty aware of what he can talk about and what he can't talk about because he used to be a corporate cabinet minister.
00:31:03.920But tell me where I'm getting this wrong, please.
00:31:06.120Okay, thanks for actually asking this question because I definitely think the country needs to revisit this.
00:31:13.400It for sure is a Liberal talking point because I've become – I've come to the conclusion that the Liberals are simply betraying the country.
00:31:34.640So, then the next question is, well, why wouldn't the loyal opposition find out and tell us and get the necessary security clearance to do that?
00:31:43.000And if I've listened to Mr. Polyev's answers, his answers are because, well, first of all, if I do, I face a prison sentence of 14 years.
00:31:52.760And I think that we've got to be careful here when we define the legislation that – at least that I'm talking about.
00:31:58.360I'm talking about the Foreign Interference and Security of Information Act 1985.
00:32:02.300If you read Section 15 of that, it's very, very clear in Section 15.
00:32:07.360It says that if information is reasonably believed to be in the public interest, then that provides a full defense for the release of that information.
00:32:17.320So, in my assertion, if we are voting for spies in this nation or we have a framework that is supposed to be the guard dogs that's protecting our nation in the form of the loyal opposition, why would they not at least attain the information and then assess whether it's in the public interest to disclose it?
00:32:39.580And if it is in the public interest to disclose it, actually take the patriot valor to protect the country and tell us who we're voting for that's actually foreign spies.
00:32:51.140And that question that you played the clip of started with actually a discussion about why we have tariffs and why we can't confront the Chinese with 100% tariff on canola.
00:33:01.640And so, you know, that was me spinning canola into a discussion about this issue because I think it's so important.
00:33:12.280And Mr. Poliev, he needs to answer to the country, why isn't Section 15 an option?
00:33:18.320And are you telling the nation that this information is not material or significant or that it is not surreptitious or undermining to the nation?
00:33:28.280And if it isn't, then why don't you say that?
00:33:31.280And if it is, do you really think that the whole nation of Canadians are going to allow you to rot in jail for 14 years because you told us the truth to save our country, our sovereignty and our borders?
00:33:43.600And I think it would actually, it actually may be the wire that would allow Canadians to wake up and see that the country's being betrayed.
00:33:51.460So I think that's the question that Mr. Poliev asked.
00:33:53.820And I think that we have been sold the Bill of Goods with this little flimsy discussion about Mr. Poliev being under an NDA, some kind of NDA, where his little hands are tied and he just can't tell us.
00:34:06.620You know, that's an interesting point because we have an example of a politician in this country who said, come and get me.
00:34:16.820We sure do, we sure do, Grant Abraham, a couple, it must have been about a year ago, between a year and two ago, that the federal government said to the government of Saskatchewan, look, you are going to pay that carbon tax or else we're going to come.
00:34:35.380We could come and get you and take you to jail.
00:34:37.480And you know what Premier Scott Moe did?
00:34:43.760You bring the big handcuffs, basically is what Scott Moe said.
00:34:47.600Saskatchewan stopped paying carbon taxes despite the threats of imprisonment, because that's exactly what the federal government did.
00:34:54.280They were like, hmm, there is a law here that says that if you don't pay, if you don't pay the taxes, we tell you to pay, then we can cart you off to jail.
00:35:02.200Nobody came and arrested Scott Moe, as far as I can tell.
00:35:05.820And you have a really great point, Grant.
00:35:08.060But I think that you just deepened this conversation for Canadians.
00:35:13.540And you just put a bug in the ears of conservatives across the West.
00:35:18.980And I also think about just ordinary people doing extraordinary things.
00:35:22.540For example, Tamara Leach being willing and has served time in the interests of her fellow Canadians in the pursuit of freedom, because it was the right thing to do.
00:35:49.940And I think we need to be clear that that mandate of Foreign Interference and Security of Information Act applies to Mr. Paulyev already by having been an MP.
00:36:01.700It also has the implication of being responsible for omissions to act in relation to that legislation.
00:36:09.720And I think maybe he should get some further legal advice in terms of his status with regard to secrets that actually are undermining the nation.
00:36:19.920Because if we take the view that post-nationalism is a betrayal of Canadian people and their sovereignty and our values,
00:36:26.300and there are foreign actors that are working in conjunction with the Liberal government in that betrayal,
00:36:31.720then Mr. Paulyev, I believe, has a duty to actually stand up and protect Canadians because we sent our soldiers all over the world to fight for liberty.
00:36:41.540My family fought and died to protect the same liberty that's being undermined in this nation now.
00:36:46.440So, why wouldn't we have the valour or the courage to actually confront that discussion?
00:36:53.180It's not just a superficial little watertight story.
00:36:59.280And Tom Mulcair indicating or telling everyone that an NDP minister wouldn't have got it is hardly a compelling argument for why it shouldn't be disclosed.
00:56:15.700Now, I see a lot of criticism online saying, like, why are we even talking about Mark Carney's daughter,
00:56:21.720who was sent to Tavistock, who is, I don't know, non-binary, I don't know, I haven't paid that close attention to Mark Carney's daughter, the outcome of the trip to Tavistock.
00:56:34.980But what I will tell you is, the federal government funds activist groups to actively fight provinces like Alberta in court.
00:57:51.020Our children were pipelined down a medical transition pipeline that started at school with name and pronoun changes, with special lunch clubs at schools, with gender and sexual diversity clubs at schools.
00:58:08.960Then they were referred to the Tavistock Clinic right out of their schools in England, right into the Tavistock Clinic that immediately put them on puberty blockers.
00:58:20.520They put them on wrong sex hormones and shuttled them down the path of surgical mutilation and butchery.
00:58:27.420This is what happened at the clinic where Mark Carney sent his daughter.
00:58:32.420As a matter of fact, they just lived down the street from the Tavistock Clinic in London.
00:58:36.600So how easy would it have been for Mark Carney's kid who was in public education or even in private education in England?
00:58:43.380How easy would it have been for her to access this gender confusing harm that the Tavistock was providing?
00:58:55.800And that Mark Carney didn't have a single thing to say about it says everything, don't you think?
00:59:00.380Because if you were, because if I, listen, if I did something highly experimental on my kid and it worked out real good for my kid, you know what I would say?
00:59:11.180You know what I would say? Yeah, it worked out great for us.
00:59:13.460My goodness, you should see how well they're doing.
00:59:15.720It's just incredible, this whole journey.
00:59:17.700More people should undertake this journey.
00:59:25.920I'm just going to guess that there is a situation in that family that is awfully sticky at some points and that we tiptoe around things.
00:59:35.960Because if Mark Carney would not answer that man's question about that experience on the street, you can almost rest assured that there is something very, very complicated going on in his family background right now.
00:59:53.020But if that is the case, then could we kindly quit funding these activists with my money to help these weirdo sex activist teachers transition people's kids behind their backs?
01:00:03.940Right. Could we stop sending Canadian taxpayer money upwards of $11 billion to do crazy gender and sexuality training in far off foreign lands?
01:03:59.920Do I believe that, listen, it, it, it is terrible to outlaw Jews, uh, from, from the pride parade.
01:04:08.240I'd like to, I'd like to, I'd like to actually hear Melissa Lantzman, Melissa Lantzman's reaction to that.
01:04:13.220I'm sure she's already had one, but pride parades have already thrown women and lesbians out, okay?
01:04:19.500Those people, those people were disinvited the second they started talking about their, um, about their concerns about the trans queer community
01:04:27.560macking on their hard-won rights, okay?
01:04:31.260So the lesbians have already been kicked out and the, and the, the families of the lesbians.
01:05:02.840But, but again, um, this all stops when society says it stops, that we've had enough, that this is no longer, um, that this is no longer societally acceptable.
01:05:14.220And we stop funding these things, going to these things and tolerating these things.
01:06:19.240Took the government of Saskatchewan to court to change the gender marker to X because their, their child, their adopted child, uh, wasn't, was neither male nor female, or they were waiting to figure it out.
01:06:30.960That's, well, you shouldn't let activists like that adopt children because it's just going to screw them all up.
01:06:35.880Um, like, and this is the same sort of social services system.
01:06:41.100And I'm not saying specifically to Saskatchewan, but all across the country that will snatch, uh, foster children from good Christian foster parents.
01:06:55.880And then years and years and years later, that same, that same mother, okay.
01:06:59.520That, that changed the gender markers on all of the identification, um, is in the press talking about the wait lists of waiting in the hospital with her mentally ill child for hours and hours and hours and hours.
01:23:32.160Uh, thanks to everybody who works behind the scenes at Rebel News to put the show together.
01:23:36.380Efron, I know that you worked really hard to put together that interview with Grant Abraham.
01:23:40.780I think even on your day off, which would have been yesterday.
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01:24:14.260Um, I'll see everybody back tomorrow with lease.
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