Rebel News Podcast - May 08, 2025


REBEL ROUNDUP ｜ Separatism & Indigenous treaties, CBC sucks up to Carney, Jasper fire mismanagement


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Join Sheila Gunn-Reed and Tami Ugolini as they discuss the Alberta Separatist movement and how it s gaining ground in the eyes of the Canadian public, and the government's response to the growing problem.

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00:00:30.000 Oh, hey, good morning, good afternoon, everybody,
00:00:40.820 depending on which part of this beautiful country that you're in.
00:00:44.400 And I say beautiful country for now because the Westerners are popping off. 1.00
00:00:50.480 I'm a Westerner.
00:00:51.380 I'm your host, Sheila Gunn-Reed.
00:00:53.060 This is our daily news and opinion show called Rebel Roundup.
00:00:56.040 And I am joined today by my Eastern Canadian host.
00:00:59.580 I don't know, Eastern, Central Canadian, not Western co-host, Tamera Ugolini.
00:01:06.400 On terrible, as I like to call the general region that is reigned over by Premier Doug Ford,
00:01:14.200 the progressive conservatives.
00:01:15.960 We need some actual conservatives in this province.
00:01:19.400 But yeah, hey, Sheila, thanks for having me on today for our Rebel Roundup.
00:01:24.320 And right off the top of things, we're going to get into that Alberta separatism stuff because it's really gaining traction now.
00:01:34.600 Well, it's always had traction.
00:01:38.320 I would say the majority of Westerners are like quiet separatists.
00:01:42.660 They're like, if polite company asks us, yeah, yeah, yeah, go team Canada, hockey, maple syrup, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:01:49.580 But like in the back, they're like, we're getting screwed.
00:01:52.960 Something else has to change.
00:01:55.240 And I think this time it might actually be different.
00:02:01.420 There's a lot of momentum.
00:02:03.360 And we have a Premier who is not a separatist.
00:02:06.800 Let's reiterate that.
00:02:08.360 But she's also not for silencing the views of Albertans who are sick and tired of this and who are not going to take it anymore.
00:02:18.760 And there's a bunch of different camps there.
00:02:21.480 There are people who are like, we're always going to be Canadian no matter how bad they screw us.
00:02:25.240 OK.
00:02:25.660 Then there are people who are like, we never should have been in this mess from the very beginning.
00:02:30.640 And they're like lifelong separatists.
00:02:32.980 There are people who are, I think, in the Daniel Smith camp who are saying we have to work to fix this within Canada.
00:02:40.940 And then there are actually a fourth camp who are saying, OK, we'll try it one more time with Daniel Smith.
00:02:48.760 And then we're gone.
00:02:49.880 So it's, I don't know, it's crazy times.
00:02:53.600 It's funny to see the people saying, no, no, you can't go.
00:02:57.160 And it sounds, by the way, it sounds like Doug Ford got a little bit of a talking to.
00:03:00.740 Because like two days ago, he was like, I don't know what's wrong with Daniel Smith, so irresponsible, blah, blah, blah.
00:03:06.460 And then yesterday, he's like, I'm good friends with Danielle.
00:03:09.340 And, you know, something's got to change for Alberta.
00:03:13.160 And it's like, I bet the federal party got to Doug and was like, Doug, shut your yap because don't make the Westerners mad or you're in a world of trouble, too.
00:03:24.380 So there's some of that happening.
00:03:25.880 But we should tell everybody what we're doing before we get into that.
00:03:28.620 And I will allow you the honors.
00:03:30.620 Thank you very much.
00:03:31.420 Because my chair is suddenly letting itself go down.
00:03:34.440 Oh, no.
00:03:35.680 All right.
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00:04:40.480 And I guess without further ado, we can just get right into it.
00:04:45.680 We're covering Alberta separatism, CBC's skewing of the Kearney Oval Office meeting, and then we'll talk a little bit about Jasper Fire mismanagement.
00:04:56.480 So off the hop, we will get to a video here from Block leader Blanchet, who basically says that Quebec can urge separatism because they have a culture of their own.
00:05:13.840 Okay.
00:05:14.180 Well, anyway, let's let him talk, and then we'll come back and comment.
00:05:19.100 For the people in Alberta who want to separate, do you have any tips for them on how to actually get the job done?
00:05:22.900 Our success so far, it does not place me in a position to give them tips about what to do, but I could give them tips about what not to do.
00:05:34.280 Not now.
00:05:36.220 The first idea is to define oneself as a nation.
00:05:42.960 Therefore, it requires a culture of their own.
00:05:47.560 And I am not certain that oil and gas qualify to define a culture.
00:05:54.000 But it's theirs to decide if they want to revindicate the right to self-determination.
00:06:02.780 I would never interfere in that.
00:06:04.680 It belongs to them.
00:06:06.480 I would like us to be the first to do so.
00:06:10.040 Oh, yeah.
00:06:10.940 I'm sure he would.
00:06:11.920 You know, this guy.
00:06:16.240 So he can't even agree with the fact that we should have our own self-determination, like he does, without taking a sideways swipe at us.
00:06:28.060 As the shirt says, and as our motto says, Alberta is strong and free.
00:06:33.020 That's our provincial motto.
00:06:34.760 And it's who and what we are.
00:06:35.880 It's why we exist here.
00:06:37.580 We do not have a culture that is just oil and gas.
00:06:40.560 Peter McCaffrey of the Alberta Institute, I think, said this best on X.
00:06:45.840 If we can find his post, I think that would be wonderful.
00:06:49.940 Also, Travel Alberta.
00:06:51.900 And I am not one to say, like, yeah, the travel agency on behalf of the province of Alberta did a really good video describing who and what we are.
00:07:02.820 But I did repost that this morning.
00:07:04.980 Maybe we can find that, too.
00:07:06.080 It actually won a silver at Cannes, like a film festival, for the quality of work and the emotions that it evokes.
00:07:14.840 And I watched that.
00:07:15.460 And I was like, yeah, that's actually exactly who and what we are.
00:07:19.620 But Peter McCaffrey says, Alberta's culture isn't oil and gas.
00:07:23.540 It's freedom.
00:07:24.140 Freedom to think, to innovate and be entrepreneurial.
00:07:28.480 I guess that's what's different between us and Quebec, right?
00:07:31.780 We don't want handouts and we have an economy that will exist without the rest of Canada.
00:07:35.660 I don't think he could say the same.
00:07:37.260 Freedom to build without asking a million bureaucrats for permission.
00:07:41.460 Freedom to take risks and to succeed or fail based on merit, not government favor.
00:07:46.720 Freedom for everyone to choose for themselves how they want to live their lives.
00:07:50.320 Oil and gas is just one of the many miracles that freedom enables.
00:07:55.780 I'd say that's who we are.
00:07:57.540 I mean, oil and gas, yeah.
00:07:59.800 I bet it is oil and gas is because somebody took an entrepreneurial risk.
00:08:05.380 Somebody saw bitumen coming out of a riverbank and said, we could probably do something about that if we thought real hard and worked extra hard.
00:08:14.660 And we could turn that into the thing that fuels the entire economy, not just of this province, but the entire country.
00:08:22.080 And so for Blanchett to discredit that, I would look, I'm a lifelong Albertan.
00:08:28.180 I'm likely quite biased on this.
00:08:30.400 But I say that we do have a distinct culture here in the West that is largely incompatible with the voting habits of the rest of this country.
00:08:38.700 Yeah, I was going to say that when I think of Alberta as an Eastern, more Eastern province dweller, unfortunately, I think of freedom and independence.
00:08:50.760 Like those are kind of the two words that come to my mind when I think of what Albertans traditionally and typically stand for and what they're going for, especially now.
00:09:01.420 And obviously, independence and separatism, the two are mostly hand in hand.
00:09:06.780 But even the Albertan people that I've met are so independent, right?
00:09:11.200 They don't want to be dependent on things like the state.
00:09:14.980 They're hardworking and they want to maintain their sovereignty and their autonomy.
00:09:21.700 And that is what I think when I think about Alberta and the people that make up Alberta, not just simply oil and gas.
00:09:29.400 But, you know, obviously, there is a massive backing there.
00:09:33.100 And that also facilitates and quite literally, pun intended, fuels the independence and that independent nature that Albertans seem to have.
00:09:42.080 Yeah, I mean, it's why you couldn't keep us under lock and key during COVID.
00:09:46.460 It's why the restaurant rebellion was led here.
00:09:48.600 It's why the church rebellion was led here is because even when our politicians, even the ones that alleged themselves to be on the conservative side of the aisle said, you stay in your house and stay away from your neighbors.
00:09:57.940 We're like, the hell, the hell we're doing that.
00:10:02.280 And that's just who and what we are.
00:10:03.980 We are, as the documentary says, ungovernable people.
00:10:08.180 That's it.
00:10:08.720 In that we are self-governing, that the state doesn't know what's best.
00:10:12.460 I want to show you this.
00:10:13.340 Olivia dug it up.
00:10:14.040 So it's Travel Alberta.
00:10:15.720 So that is, you know, the state agency that advertises Alberta to the rest of the world.
00:10:23.640 But they talk about what it means to be an Albertan.
00:10:27.780 And like, look, I realize this is a government video.
00:10:32.300 But as an Albertan, pretty on the nose.
00:10:34.460 Maybe let's show that.
00:10:35.240 What is it to be Albertan for a moment or a week or a lifetime?
00:10:51.520 Well, that's like asking, what is it to be free?
00:10:56.540 To be Chinook winds in flight over mountain peaks or northern lights dancing till morning dawn?
00:11:07.220 To be glacial waters gracefully raging or unbridled horses charging?
00:11:14.540 To be perfect for a brief moment?
00:11:17.920 Or to last longer than all of time?
00:11:29.820 Sure, great places will always capture you.
00:11:34.420 But Alberta, she'll set you free. 0.74
00:11:37.600 I gave me chills.
00:12:03.720 Yeah.
00:12:03.980 And that's why the control freaks don't get us.
00:12:06.720 Like, we live in that, that mindset every single day.
00:12:10.320 And also, it's really something to look at the majesty that is Alberta and say, oh, it's just oil and gas.
00:12:19.180 No, we do oil and gas beside all that beauty.
00:12:23.480 And we take care of that beauty while we're doing the oil and gas incredibly responsibly.
00:12:27.980 And so, yeah, no wonder Jean-Yves Blanchet doesn't get us.
00:12:33.600 Like, of course he doesn't get us.
00:12:35.560 Well, you said something interesting there, Sheila, too.
00:12:37.880 It's like, I recognize that this is a state-funded or state-compiled video.
00:12:43.700 But I think the difference in Alberta is that the state is actually listening to the people.
00:12:47.720 Like, the people still have a say.
00:12:49.800 And the state is taking it seriously in Alberta.
00:12:52.220 Whereas, you know, in Ontario, it feels like you just have no representation anywhere you look.
00:12:58.040 And so, yeah, the state put out a, you know, tourism video that is really compelling, visually beautiful, and an accurate representation of the people.
00:13:08.300 Whereas here in Ontario, we have a government who's not listening to the people, who, you know, basically smears you if you don't go along with their groupthink, and then obviously doesn't represent your interests on that larger scale.
00:13:21.720 So there's a very clear difference there in the representation of the state when the people are being properly heard.
00:13:27.040 Yeah, it's funny how everybody seems so shocked that we have a government here in Alberta, for all of its flaws and warts, that listens to us in between election periods, instead of just like when they're trying to get our vote every four years.
00:13:43.620 They're actually trying to put themselves closer to the people who elect them in the in-between parts and be more accountable to us.
00:13:52.260 Like this citizen-led initiative can be for recall, like we want to recall the premier.
00:13:59.480 The bar is even lower for that.
00:14:01.200 So it makes them more accountable to us.
00:14:03.480 And everybody is all just like, oh, my goodness, that means separation.
00:14:07.380 It actually means that a government is forced to listen to us now, whatever it is.
00:14:11.600 Exactly.
00:14:12.820 Although, meanwhile, some of the chiefs and the bands are not happy with Premier Smith and the idea of separating.
00:14:23.340 We have this, I thought it was a video, but it looks like it's just a photo of Chief Alan Adam of the Athabasca Chippewan First Nation.
00:14:34.920 This guy.
00:14:35.440 Yeah, he said, we don't want her here, he says, of the premier.
00:14:41.740 And he told reporters that if Smith continues to push separatism, she instead should just leave.
00:14:48.520 And so this comes from a reporter in Alberta.
00:14:54.120 Yeah.
00:14:54.620 So this chief Alan Adam is a real piece of work.
00:15:00.320 So most recently, he was in the news for alleging police brutality against him while he was intoxicated in front of a casino in Fort McMurray.
00:15:12.440 However, when the 11 minute body cam footage came out, he was trying to fight cops in front of the casino.
00:15:19.100 Uh, and yeah, he said, the insinuation was it was racist cops.
00:15:26.600 Um, but no, he was the one trying to fist fight, uh, I guess an entire shift of RCMP officers in Fort McMurray at the time.
00:15:35.220 Um, so that was a couple of years ago, the cops just were, that was, I think, in 2020, the cops were just cleared after a four year long investigation in 2024.
00:15:44.720 But Alan Adam is no friend to Alberta.
00:15:48.980 And I won't take any advice about who or what amounts to a loyal Canadian citizen from chief Alan Adam.
00:15:56.380 And I'll tell you why, because when he is not trotting up Hollywood anti-oil hypocrites to Fort McMurray, like Jane Fonda, who was run out of town on a rail by my friend, Robbie Picard, who confronted her down.
00:16:10.840 I think it was at the Moxie's, but you got word that she was there and she came to say how bad everything was, um, in Fort McMurray.
00:16:18.740 And Robbie, who is indigenous himself said, uh, no, what are you doing here, Jane?
00:16:24.000 Uh, and Alan Adam is behind that.
00:16:26.660 Uh, he's, uh, you know, one of those Greta Thunberg types, uh, Leonardo DiCaprio type.
00:16:32.460 And he took $50,000.
00:16:36.060 Yeah, this is, that's Alan Adam with Jane Fonda in Fort McMurray.
00:16:41.460 He also brought up Leonardo DiCaprio and Neil Young previously.
00:16:45.900 Neil Young once said about Fort McMurray that it looked like Hiroshima.
00:16:50.820 And anyways, recently endorsed Mark Carney, by the way.
00:16:53.540 So, uh, and as Ezra wrote many moons ago in the Toronto Sun, I think it was, Alan Adam took $50,000, $55,000 from the Tides Foundation to be a rent-a-chief, to give cover to these anti-oil activists saying, see, see, the indigenous people are on our side.
00:17:15.700 All the oil and gas companies, by the way, in Fort McMurray have partnerships with the indigenous people.
00:17:20.620 And what a great gift it is, the oil in Fort McMurray.
00:17:25.020 It keeps our indigenous people in their community and out of generational poverty.
00:17:30.000 But he took $55,000 from an American charitable clearinghouse that exists to oppose Canadian oil and gas.
00:17:41.820 So the jobs of his people, by the way, he took $55,000 from them while siding with the people who would unemploy the young people in his community.
00:17:52.620 He's a real piece of work.
00:17:54.480 He's fine with American money, but don't you ever consider that maybe Albertans want some of that, too, in the form of, you know, maybe being the 51st state.
00:18:04.040 Like, he's got no problem with Americans when they're paying him, but you're a traitor if you muse about independence for yourself.
00:18:13.300 This, what a jerk.
00:18:14.640 And, you know, leave it to the Canadian media, the Edmonton legislature press gallery, to not tell you any of that, not tell you anything about what an absolute hypocrite Chief Alan Adam is,
00:18:29.120 or any of his history, with the American anti-oil movement.
00:18:33.160 Of course, he opposes Daniel Smith.
00:18:35.380 She wants us to up production by 100%.
00:18:41.340 She wants to double production in Alberta of oil and gas.
00:18:44.420 So, of course, Alan Adam is like, oh, my paymasters in America won't like that.
00:18:48.940 Pay me and let's keep the young people in my community poor. 1.00
00:18:53.160 He's the worst.
00:18:53.980 Well, and, you know, it just, the Indigenous community in Alberta seems to just be poorly informed about what separation actually means for them.
00:19:06.760 It's activists in any community.
00:19:08.580 I mean, typical.
00:19:10.060 Yeah.
00:19:10.700 And we'll get to that.
00:19:13.080 Well, I wanted to play the clip that we have before we get to some of the correcting of the record that lawyer Keith Wilson does.
00:19:20.640 This one comes from Real Talk Ryan.
00:19:24.360 Ryan Jesperson.
00:19:25.980 He used to be with Chorus, and then I don't know how they parted ways, but now he has a podcast, which is at least we don't have to listen to him on the terrestrial airwaves anymore.
00:19:39.840 We can actually choose to listen to them when you're in combine jail, as they call it this time of year, tractor jail during seating.
00:19:46.460 But he said Alberta just can't separate from Canada, according to Grand Chief Greg Desjardins, with a reminder.
00:19:55.000 Greg Desjardins should talk to a constitutional lawyer anyway.
00:19:58.540 Let's play this.
00:19:59.420 Therefore, any citizen-initiated referendum must not violate the constitutional rights of First Nations peoples and must uphold and honour treaties 6, 7, and 8, should any referendum question ever pass.
00:20:15.240 This is non-negotiable.
00:20:16.580 When you make that statement that the treaties will be upheld, then I'm going to hold you to task.
00:20:22.000 When you want to talk about building a bridge with First Nations, it comes down to respect.
00:20:26.240 You have to respect our governments.
00:20:28.400 It seems like what's happening is they want to steamroll over us, set up the separation with or without us, and not listening to us.
00:20:35.640 We have our mandate, our position is to be vocal and to be heard.
00:20:39.660 The sacred treaties, as long as the sun shines, the grass grows, the river flows, that's forever.
00:20:45.120 And I think that what they're trying to do here is undermine the First Nations people. 0.60
00:20:49.360 Maybe we're in the way.
00:20:50.460 Maybe they think we're in the way.
00:20:51.720 We're both treaty people, myself and your ancestors, and we forget that.
00:20:55.920 So when we both touched our lips on that pipe under the creator's eye, that's a binding agreement, natural law.
00:21:02.780 Therefore, any...
00:21:03.920 Yeah, well...
00:21:06.920 No one's trying to steamroll anybody, by the way.
00:21:12.180 Daniel Smith was pretty clear that any referendum would have to respect treaties 6, 7, and 8.
00:21:19.860 And that's that.
00:21:23.600 But as lawyer Keith Wilson points out, he says respectfully, and I don't know if that's required.
00:21:29.320 He says, Ryan, respectfully, your post is misleading.
00:21:31.920 Now, Keith is, I would say, one of the leading experts in this issue when it comes to Alberta, and he has studied extensively how these issues were addressed with Quebec.
00:21:43.520 And they were redressed.
00:21:45.360 That's what a lot of people aren't thinking about.
00:21:47.460 And people read parts of the treaties, but they don't read all of the treaties, like the seeding of the land.
00:21:55.200 That's an important word.
00:21:56.640 The process set out by the Supreme Court of Canada in the 1998 Quebec secession reference case directly addresses protecting First Nations rights, as does the resulting Clarity Act.
00:22:08.440 Nothing that the premier has announced in any way reduces First Nations rights.
00:22:11.660 In fact, it gives First Nations more options for their future.
00:22:15.220 I was talking about this with Elise the other day.
00:22:20.360 Do they really, like, you really want to side with the residential school people?
00:22:25.940 You want to do that?
00:22:27.340 Or do you want to go a different way?
00:22:30.020 Or, you know, have a say of your own?
00:22:33.200 Anyways, Keith goes on.
00:22:34.560 There are the details on the separation process and the First Nations right and the role of their treaties.
00:22:40.700 One, all eligible Alberta voters can vote in an independence referendum, including members of First Nations.
00:22:47.640 One person, one vote.
00:22:48.760 No special treatment for members of First Nations re-voting in the referendum.
00:22:52.740 That also means no special treatment for the rest of us either.
00:22:55.660 Upon a successful vote for separation in the province of Alberta, First Nations within Alberta, the other provinces, and the government of Canada are obligated to engage in good-faith negotiations to establish the terms of Alberta's separation.
00:23:08.200 Three, Alberta First Nations would have the following options, at minimum, and this is the base, to determine their post-separation status.
00:23:16.900 Their reserve lands to remain owned by Canada with treaties still administered by the government of Canada.
00:23:22.840 Status quo, nothing changes.
00:23:24.400 So they could choose to stay behind and just be governed by Kearney in Ottawa.
00:23:30.520 But that also means that we're not going to pay for your treatment beds on reserve.
00:23:33.600 Because we do that right now, even though that's a federal obligation, the province of Alberta does that.
00:23:39.380 The province of Alberta also has a crown corporation that is like Indigenous business development.
00:23:47.560 We do that here because of our close ties with the oil and gas sector.
00:23:51.800 And it's just easier.
00:23:53.460 You do the stuff closer to home, even though that's a federal obligation.
00:23:56.840 We do it.
00:23:59.100 Their reserve lands to remain owned by Canada.
00:24:01.240 Okay, so they could just carve themselves out.
00:24:02.860 So, again, you can stay, but you don't have to make the rest of Albertans stay.
00:24:08.280 If they don't want to, you get to keep your reserve lands.
00:24:11.760 A request that the new government of Alberta assume the responsibilities of the government of Canada under existing treaties.
00:24:18.420 The only material change is which government administers the treaties.
00:24:22.100 So, status quo, just they're being administered by the province of Alberta.
00:24:27.540 Seems reasonable to me.
00:24:29.980 Alberta's already picking up a lot of those responsibilities anyway. 1.00
00:24:33.640 So, again, what would be the difference?
00:24:36.700 Except that you would be, you know, 50% wealthier because your dollar would potentially be at par with the American.
00:24:42.920 Or negotiate a new framework agreement with Alberta to replace and modernize existing treaties.
00:24:47.720 So, a chance to have new treaties, better treaties.
00:24:50.840 What is the downside here to this opposition to the province and their own people having a say?
00:25:02.180 And, as Keith says, importantly, the First Nations themselves would decide which option to pursue as part of the cessation negotiations.
00:25:11.740 But they do not have a veto on whether Alberta separates.
00:25:15.720 Five, as confirmed in the map below, the government of Alberta owns almost all of the land and the oil and gas within Alberta, resulting from the 1930 Natural Resources Transfer Agreement.
00:25:26.980 So, the treaties are the seeding of the land and the reserves are theirs.
00:25:38.380 And we all get an equal say in this.
00:25:41.740 And whatever happens at the end of it, the people who actually get an extra say are the bans who get to decide we'll stay, we'll go, we'll negotiate new treaties.
00:25:54.180 If, indeed, this happens at all.
00:25:56.940 But, I mean, you don't get a veto on the rest of us.
00:25:59.260 This is the only way it's fair.
00:26:02.040 Yeah, and it seems pretty fair to me.
00:26:04.060 And it seems like there's a lot of reasonable options available to the indigenous communities.
00:26:08.960 And if it's going to be, well, complain, complain, complain, and we're not being treated fairly, and there's all this, you know, truth and reconciliation, and it's not actually happening, and it's all empty words and land acknowledgements.
00:26:18.500 Well, here is a real opportunity to potentially get something different, to do something different, and why that negotiation or that conversation isn't at least being entertained, and instead is just shot down at every which way, really speaks volumes as to whose interests perhaps some of these band chiefs actually represent.
00:26:39.600 We have, before we move on, a brand new pope, about an hour and a half ago, white smoke from the Vatican.
00:26:52.360 And so we've got Cardinal Robert Prevost, or Prevost, depending on how you pronounce it.
00:27:01.200 He is both American and Peruvian, so we have an American pope.
00:27:07.000 A second Western Hemisphere pope, and if you go by the AP, one strike against him, however, is that he's American, and there's been a long taboo against a U.S. pope, given the geopolitical power already wielded by the United States in the secular sphere.
00:27:28.960 Enough.
00:27:29.400 He's a Chicago native, but he's a Chicago native, but he's also a Peruvian citizen.
00:27:33.900 He's lived in Peru.
00:27:34.980 He was a missionary and an archbishop.
00:27:37.660 He's Augustinian.
00:27:39.620 That's his religious order.
00:27:41.660 So that makes me hopeful.
00:27:48.200 Anyway.
00:27:48.680 Well, I was just going to say, we also have a super chat before we move on from the separatist talk.
00:27:59.840 Yeah, please.
00:28:00.620 From Suna Soul Silver.
00:28:03.820 Hope I pronounced that correctly.
00:28:05.060 Gives $5.
00:28:06.060 Thank you.
00:28:06.600 So it's Rich coming from the block party to say Alberta don't have culture when they are too busy eating caviar and foie gras, I think, bought by Alberta.
00:28:17.880 Yeah.
00:28:18.480 Thank you.
00:28:19.800 This is, it's like a liver pate, I think, isn't it?
00:28:22.420 Foie gras.
00:28:24.380 Yeah.
00:28:24.860 Anyway.
00:28:25.440 Yeah.
00:28:25.540 It's duck liver.
00:28:26.580 Yeah.
00:28:27.100 Ooh.
00:28:27.720 Yum.
00:28:27.980 Yum.
00:28:29.180 Yeah.
00:28:29.740 So they're eating caviar and I would say also eating poutine bought by Alberta money.
00:28:35.520 Yeah.
00:28:35.840 The equalization payments, when you actually break it down and look at who is getting what, I mean, it's very clear why Alberta is so disgruntled over it. 0.94
00:28:46.200 Yeah.
00:28:47.240 Yeah.
00:28:47.760 That's the thing.
00:28:49.560 It's hard to take advice.
00:28:51.320 It's like your kids telling you how to live.
00:28:53.680 And it's like, I'm paying the bills in here.
00:28:57.900 I'm the boss.
00:28:59.220 And we don't want to be the boss except of ourselves.
00:29:02.960 And it's real rich taking advice from the likes of a guy who threatened separation, or at least a province that's threatened separation twice, only to get more stuff.
00:29:16.500 I don't think they were ever truly, truly serious about leaving.
00:29:19.340 Let's hit an ad break while I try my best, my Catholic best, to digest the new Pope.
00:29:27.140 I am, this stuff is informed by the Holy Spirit, so I'm going to keep my opinions to myself.
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00:32:12.440 I was going to say, speaking of making Canada great again.
00:32:16.040 Yeah.
00:32:16.440 Carney campaigned on, you know, such a strong, he was going to fight Trump and spearhead.
00:32:22.820 Oh, our relationship with the Americans was over, right? 0.97
00:32:26.700 Like, we may as well be Europeans at this point.
00:32:29.600 Our relationship with Trump is non-existent and that's that.
00:32:34.220 And then he's like, thank you, good sir, for your leadership.
00:32:37.100 Thank you for having me in your very opulent home.
00:32:39.220 Thank you.
00:32:39.620 Thank you.
00:32:40.060 Like, it was just ridiculous.
00:32:42.540 You boomers were had.
00:32:44.500 Oh, yeah.
00:32:44.920 A hundred percent.
00:32:45.820 And even there was, I don't know if we can dig it up, there was a photo or I think maybe
00:32:49.860 it was even just a little clip of him and Trump in the Oval Office or maybe it was just
00:32:53.040 outside the White House.
00:32:55.000 And they were, you know, kind of standing side by side, posing for some photo ops.
00:32:59.380 And Carney's just like looking up at Trump.
00:33:01.920 And he's, it reminded me of a schoolboy looking up to their father for approval on it because
00:33:07.520 he's just like, Trump is just towering over Carney and he's just, and they're kind of
00:33:12.180 standing there and Trump or sorry, and Carney's looking up at Trump as, you know, what's, what's
00:33:17.260 my cue here, dad?
00:33:19.140 The thumbs up picture where for all those boomers who, and again, don't write me letters. 0.99
00:33:24.280 If you didn't vote for Carney, then this isn't about you.
00:33:27.000 But those public sector retirees from the greater Toronto area who were like, I'm voting for
00:33:35.280 Carney because he's the best man to fight Trump.
00:33:37.360 And then there he is in an identical pose outside of the White House with Trump saying
00:33:42.600 to him as the first thing, I basically got you elected.
00:33:45.800 So you must do what I say.
00:33:47.000 That was the unspoken thing.
00:33:49.500 And then they also do like the thumbs up outside, like the very Trumpy thumbs up pose together.
00:33:57.260 I think Trump spoke for 29 minutes and Carney spoke for four.
00:34:00.980 And the most he said was like, Canada's not for sale, but you're quite literally there
00:34:05.940 trying to sell our goods and services to the Americans.
00:34:09.100 So what are you doing?
00:34:10.520 And Trump is like, yeah, those tariffs are staying.
00:34:13.660 And then Carney goes on to say, we're working very hard on the negotiations.
00:34:18.020 Negotiating what?
00:34:18.680 Trump said those tariffs are staying no matter what.
00:34:20.880 And he said, that's just the way it is.
00:34:23.400 So anyway.
00:34:25.900 Yeah, and we'll get to the CBC's biased take on all of this in just a minute.
00:34:29.180 But we have a clip here to share.
00:34:32.400 I think, is it Steve Land Ambrose?
00:34:35.420 Yeah.
00:34:35.920 He posted this one.
00:34:37.820 And I liked his take on X, where he said the Liberals just ran a fear-based campaign
00:34:42.840 painting Trump as an existential threat to Canada.
00:34:45.340 Now they've dropped a slick tribute video basking in his aura and draped it in American pageantry.
00:34:53.440 The pivot from defiant to fanboy was instant.
00:34:57.160 It's another reminder for Liberals, it's never been about principles.
00:35:00.360 It's only about power.
00:35:02.660 And here's the clip.
00:35:03.380 I conveyed to the president today what our countries have long proven to be true.
00:35:10.140 That Canada and the United States are stronger when we work together.
00:35:14.600 We can get a better deal for our workers.
00:35:17.660 We can create more opportunities for our businesses.
00:35:20.900 We can build stronger economies across North America when we work together.
00:35:25.780 The question is how we will cooperate in the future.
00:35:30.520 How we can build an economic and security relationship built on mutual respect.
00:35:36.360 We agreed to have further conversations in the coming weeks.
00:35:39.000 And we are looking forward to meeting in person at the G7 Summit in Kananaskis in Alberta.
00:35:46.820 How to say a lot without saying anything at all.
00:35:50.480 Yeah.
00:35:50.880 You just said we're going to meet again in the future.
00:35:53.000 Yeah, I bet you are.
00:35:53.920 We're talking.
00:35:54.400 We're right across the border.
00:35:56.480 Of course you are.
00:35:57.280 Like, that's the dumbest thing ever.
00:35:59.820 And, you know, we're working on building a relationship.
00:36:03.860 I believe Trump just told you what the relationship is.
00:36:06.760 The tariffs are staying.
00:36:08.420 You got elected because of me.
00:36:10.600 And that's the end of it.
00:36:11.980 Like, that was the entire meeting.
00:36:14.260 And so, of course, the CBC says that this is a win for Carney.
00:36:19.680 I guess when the bar is that low, okay.
00:36:22.480 He didn't yell at you or get all, like, stern with you and release J.D. Vance, the attack goblin, on you like he did to Zielinski.
00:36:33.040 And I say that in the kindest of ways.
00:36:34.540 I really enjoy J.D. Vance.
00:36:35.680 But I guess, I guess that's a win if that didn't happen.
00:36:41.420 But CBC, man, you would think that the tariffs were gone.
00:36:46.320 Yeah, let's watch.
00:36:48.500 As the CBC's Aaron Collins tells us, Mark Carney was polite but firm during talks.
00:36:54.360 Yeah, I mean, really, what a tough job Mark Carney had yesterday, right?
00:36:58.860 Like, this is someone who just won a federal election arguing that, you know, he's the best person to stand up to Donald Trump.
00:37:05.700 And, of course, you know, a big part of that is a response to his continued reference to Canada becoming the 51st state.
00:37:14.220 So then, just, you know, a week or so later, he's sitting next to the president.
00:37:18.140 So he has to walk this super fine line.
00:37:21.140 He has to be firm with the president, specifically on any comments about Canadian sovereignty.
00:37:26.900 No, so weak.
00:37:27.000 But he also has to be, you know, polite and cordial.
00:37:30.340 So not an easy balancing act, to say the least.
00:37:34.020 So at the end of the day, this relationship, it's got to remain civil if Canada is going to be able to come out of this trade dispute with the U.S., you know, whole, intact.
00:37:42.340 And I think there's this one exchange during yesterday's meeting in the Oval Office that really perfectly illustrates this kind of fine line the prime minister is walking.
00:37:51.540 So after Carney said Canada is not for sale, the president, he continues insisting that,
00:37:57.000 you know, Canada could be had.
00:37:59.300 But just watch what the prime minister does here.
00:38:03.320 Now they're stepping it up, and that's a very important thing.
00:38:05.920 But never say never.
00:38:07.080 Never say never.
00:38:07.700 What?
00:38:12.940 What did he do?
00:38:14.800 It's quick there.
00:38:15.740 But he's very quietly mouthing the words never.
00:38:19.280 He's looking away from the president.
00:38:20.660 No, he's panicking.
00:38:21.360 But he's careful not to insult the president while doing this.
00:38:24.060 So firm but polite.
00:38:25.560 No easy task.
00:38:26.380 It's a very Canadian strategy, Andrew.
00:38:28.960 Yeah, it was definitely.
00:38:30.520 What are these people on about?
00:38:33.680 Like, again, this is CBC showing us a video and telling us not to believe our own eyes.
00:38:39.560 Yeah, exactly.
00:38:41.300 I saw what Carney did.
00:38:43.120 Trump was like, never say never.
00:38:44.400 And Carney's like.
00:38:46.580 Like, that wasn't like a very Canadian thing.
00:38:50.260 That's someone who's like, oh, dang, the boomers are watching. 0.80
00:38:53.280 Right, I have to look tough here.
00:38:56.280 Well, it makes me wonder, are we are we living in parallel universes?
00:39:00.300 Because I watched that whole conference.
00:39:03.940 Me too.
00:39:04.340 And, you know, did they?
00:39:06.060 Because that was not the vibe at all.
00:39:08.920 Carney, there was, I don't know, at least a minute, maybe a minute and a half where he was trying to get a word in.
00:39:15.140 And he kept, you could see his arm, he kind of kept trying to start and he couldn't quite get in there.
00:39:19.880 And it was like, come on, get a backbone.
00:39:22.640 Like, what are you doing?
00:39:24.140 If you're if you're taking such a firm stance, if you've declared that the relation, our relationship with the United States as we know it is now done.
00:39:31.820 And he said that repeatedly, like this wasn't just a one off.
00:39:35.080 Then you would think when you're sitting beside the president and you have your opportunity to take a firm stance and, you know, elbows up.
00:39:42.720 Well, Mark Carney's elbows were like way down here and he's cowered in trying to get a word in edgewise.
00:39:48.720 And it was really sad to watch.
00:39:50.920 And then for the mainstream media, the spin doctors to come in and just completely flip that on its head as though Carney was showing some sort of like, look at it.
00:40:00.460 He's so uncomfortable, his body language, you can tell, and he's trying to get in there.
00:40:05.420 I think it was more towards the middle, right when they start talking about, oh, Canada, it will never, there are some real, he says there's some real estate that will never be for sale.
00:40:14.000 But for like three minutes before that, he's trying to get into the conversation and he just couldn't because he's not strong.
00:40:22.280 He isn't brave.
00:40:23.600 He doesn't have this like rigidity about him.
00:40:26.620 He's weak and you can clearly see that on display.
00:40:30.460 He's looking down, he's shifting, he's fidgeting, he's sucking on his teeth at some points.
00:40:35.720 Like he's like biting his lips, which means that he's thinking he should say something, but he just cannot.
00:40:43.200 I'm sure his lips weren't chapped.
00:40:45.480 And he like, he sat there while Trump did the whole like, look at my fancy gilded eagle.
00:40:54.880 And these are the new photos that I put up.
00:40:57.140 Like Trump was not taking him seriously.
00:41:00.020 And then Trump tells him all the things that's wrong with Canada and why we should be the 51st state.
00:41:07.460 And he didn't say a word.
00:41:08.960 He basically said like, you got fentanyl, you got a border problem, healthcare is a mess, taxes are too high.
00:41:15.220 And Christy Freeland is a horrible person.
00:41:17.760 And he didn't say anything except, wow, Canada's not for sale.
00:41:23.480 And Trump goes, never say never.
00:41:25.920 Yeah, that's right.
00:41:26.900 And he says that a couple of times.
00:41:28.460 Like, go ahead.
00:41:29.740 I like that he brought up how Trudeau said that tariffs would economically destroy Canada.
00:41:35.580 And he was like, and I thought that was pretty interesting.
00:41:37.220 So he's, you know, he's gleaning on his previous insights that were shared with him by former Prime Minister Trudeau.
00:41:44.020 And, you know, for whatever it's worth, he's keeping that in mind.
00:41:48.520 And that is an unfortunate thing that we had with a similarly weak and in, in, like, just completely incapable and a leader.
00:42:01.620 And then, you know, Trump reiterated, we don't want Canadian cars.
00:42:06.160 We are building factories right now to make our own cars.
00:42:10.620 We don't want Canadian aluminum.
00:42:12.760 We don't want Canadian steel.
00:42:14.020 And so, you know, Carney, I think, then realized at that point, well, I don't really have any leverage here anymore, other than just saying, some places are just never for sale and please buy our products again, I guess.
00:42:28.700 He didn't even go there, though.
00:42:30.880 And to that, Trump goes, takes time.
00:42:33.920 Like, he was just, like, not, like, zero respect for Carney because he knows Carney got elected because of him.
00:42:40.120 So, of course, he doesn't respect him.
00:42:41.900 But he, like, Carney kept saying, like, well, there's just some real estate that isn't for sale.
00:42:49.300 And you can, Trump just looks at him and goes, takes time.
00:42:53.260 Takes time.
00:42:53.880 Yeah, that's right.
00:42:55.080 Kind of a sad place for us Canadians to be in, though, when I see stuff, when you see stuff like that, it is very disheartening.
00:43:01.880 Yeah.
00:43:02.640 As a Canadian people.
00:43:04.540 Well, and simultaneously, the UK gets a trade deal with the Americans.
00:43:11.240 So Carney goes there and does, gets nothing except made fun of, really, saying, yeah, to his face, we're going to make you the 51st state, plus your country isn't great.
00:43:22.100 And Trump listed all the bad things that Canada is dealing with after 10 years of liberal government.
00:43:28.100 But then he says, but I like you.
00:43:29.740 And the reason you got elected is because of me, which is totally just like putting him under his thumb.
00:43:34.480 And in the meantime, the UK cuts a deal with the Americans on tariffs.
00:43:41.480 So reducing car tariffs from 27.5 down to 10 for 100,000 vehicles.
00:43:47.720 Eliminated the 25% tariffs on steel and aluminum and made Rolls-Royce engines and plane parts tariff free.
00:43:56.840 And other agricultural provisions.
00:44:00.680 Thanks, Dave, for putting this together, by the way.
00:44:03.300 The UK removes tariffs on US beef and agricultural products.
00:44:06.180 So they're removing the reciprocal tariffs.
00:44:08.040 Grants UK farmers a 13-ton tariff free export quota.
00:44:12.520 Maintains food standards, i.e. no hormone-treated beef.
00:44:15.220 It'll eliminate tariffs on US ethanol for beer production.
00:44:18.320 So what exactly did Carney do anyway?
00:44:25.040 He looked good to the liberal spin doctors at the CBC.
00:44:29.860 We have a super chat here from Mike, who gives $10.
00:44:34.580 Thank you.
00:44:35.460 Why is this becoming a daily show supporting Alberta and separation?
00:44:40.440 I like the old rebel show talking about everything, not just how great Alberta is.
00:44:45.400 Just saying.
00:44:46.420 Yeah, we did start off on that foot, but we're getting into some other topics now.
00:44:51.560 So hopefully your view on that changes as we go on with the show.
00:44:56.660 Yeah, and it really is the biggest thing in the country right now, outside of Carney,
00:45:02.160 getting absolutely emasculated by Trump.
00:45:05.840 You have a province threatening to leave and the premier saying,
00:45:12.660 well, we're going to let everybody make their minds up on it instead of stopping it.
00:45:16.760 I don't know.
00:45:18.080 I feel like it's probably an international story.
00:45:20.980 But as other things come up, we do talk about them too.
00:45:23.600 For example, as Tamara said, we're talking about Trump right now.
00:45:28.300 Do we want to go into the ballot blunder, as I called it last night?
00:45:35.540 Yeah, I think so.
00:45:36.140 And then we'll hit the headline and then we'll probably run out of time.
00:45:41.200 Yeah.
00:45:43.020 Yeah, Jasper Fire.
00:45:44.060 Okay.
00:45:44.240 So last night, quietly, Elections Canada sends out a little notice saying that nearly 850 special votes
00:45:55.920 in Coquitlam, Port Coquitlam, were not counted because they weren't turned in.
00:46:04.960 And because they weren't turned in at a very specific time, they couldn't be counted.
00:46:09.560 And these ballots are to be attributed to, I think it's close to 80 ridings across the country.
00:46:15.420 So these are special ballots.
00:46:17.200 So to give the Coles Notes version, if you were in Poco, as they call it, Port Coquitlam,
00:46:22.720 you could vote in your own riding, even if you were there.
00:46:29.040 So vote in your home riding.
00:46:30.540 So say somewhere in Ontario, whatever, Elections Canada would attribute your riding
00:46:36.360 or your vote to your riding.
00:46:38.240 And so these are people who happen to be in BC at the time, but don't actually live there full time.
00:46:44.540 And those votes weren't counted.
00:46:46.040 They were just tossed out.
00:46:47.280 Now, Elections Canada, take this for what you will, did the very serious investigation of themselves
00:46:56.060 and said, oh, this is human error.
00:46:58.260 It's kind of a one-off thing.
00:46:59.420 And this didn't hinge any election results.
00:47:05.520 So this didn't flip any ridings.
00:47:07.080 Okay, but this is just one riding that this happened.
00:47:10.420 This is just one riding.
00:47:13.080 How many times did this happen across the country that we don't know about, that we're going to find out about next?
00:47:18.500 And look, I'm not alleging any election chicanery.
00:47:23.740 I can't because this is YouTube.
00:47:25.380 But this is a reason why people don't trust Elections Canada.
00:47:31.660 It's because of this stuff.
00:47:33.660 If people are electoral meddling conspiracy theorists, Elections Canada needs to look inside yourself, Rosemary,
00:47:43.120 to see who the real culprit is.
00:47:45.260 They're really not making a very strong case.
00:47:49.300 And I see that this post by Daniel Freiheit, Viva Freiheit's brother, actually.
00:47:56.800 So he's a lawyer.
00:47:58.040 And he goes by the Twitter handle, Lion Advocacy.
00:48:00.520 And he posts a lot of really great stuff.
00:48:01.720 But he actually compiled Elections Canada's postings from yesterday, May 7th.
00:48:09.060 Right.
00:48:09.320 And it's really funny to watch the progression and the timeline of where they were at with
00:48:16.980 purported, you know, misinformation around the election process and then coming out and
00:48:21.840 saying, oh, by the way, we found almost 900 ballots.
00:48:25.840 So he says 10.05 a.m.
00:48:28.220 Basically, Elections Canada.
00:48:30.680 Yeah.
00:48:31.120 Basically, Elections Canada says there's a lot of inaccurate information circulating about
00:48:36.260 elections.
00:48:36.700 Then 4 p.m., they say the concerns over a higher than usual number of candidates.
00:48:42.640 And then 4.41, so 41 minutes later, they say there will be a judicial recount.
00:48:48.000 And then, like, not even 10 or just over 10 minutes later, 822 ballots have been kept at
00:48:54.140 the office of a returning officer.
00:48:57.280 And then he shares all of the posts on X that they put.
00:49:02.140 The one who's like, for example, about non-citizens voting, ballot boxes not being secured.
00:49:10.800 And so they're like, this is misinformation that ballot boxes aren't secured.
00:49:16.000 By the end of the workday, they're like, yeah, there were ballot boxes not secured.
00:49:19.580 Plus, somebody, 800 people were disenfranchised.
00:49:22.660 Oh, by the way.
00:49:24.620 And they start off their posts, too, with, I heard that.
00:49:28.040 Some people say that.
00:49:29.140 I saw someone write that.
00:49:30.380 Like, as though there's no credibility to these claims, right?
00:49:33.040 It's just hearsay.
00:49:34.860 And then, you know, fast forward to, I don't know, what, six, seven hours later?
00:49:41.820 They're like, oh, by the way, that actually was accurate.
00:49:44.460 And now we're doing a whole recount and issuing a press release.
00:49:47.760 And this is just, like, it's such a joke, but this is real life that this is happening.
00:49:54.300 And good job to the public relations team, I guess, that's trying to sort through all of this
00:50:02.520 and gaslight everyone into not believing some of the things they are hearing about what's
00:50:09.560 really going on with the election process.
00:50:12.260 It's not a good look, that's for sure.
00:50:15.660 Yeah, and you don't have to attribute sinister motives to just good old-fashioned government
00:50:24.340 ineptitude, right?
00:50:25.700 Like, you don't even have to think that they're, like, in it for one person or another.
00:50:31.060 You can just realize that this is a government-run process and nothing that government has ever
00:50:38.660 done, they have done well.
00:50:40.440 And so it's okay for citizens to question how bad this was run, at least in some instances.
00:50:49.320 Like, yes, we can get election results by and large in a day or even in a couple of hours.
00:50:56.580 Heck, even before the people are done voting, as is the case with the CBC.
00:51:01.280 But this is, you know, a government agency.
00:51:07.520 And I think it's good to have a healthy skepticism of a government agency.
00:51:12.700 And I don't think people should be told to shut up about it.
00:51:15.340 Because as it turns out, skeptics tend to be right these days.
00:51:19.580 Yeah.
00:51:20.120 Or just wait a few months and then it turns out that they're right anyway.
00:51:24.060 Right.
00:51:24.320 All right.
00:51:25.360 Hitting the last headline topic.
00:51:27.960 Sheila, you wrote this one up this morning.
00:51:29.920 And it's about Parks Canada knowing that there was a real fire risk in Jasper.
00:51:36.920 And they did nothing to stop it.
00:51:39.680 Right.
00:51:40.200 So this broken by Black Locks, again, doing the good work that the press gallery refuses to.
00:51:47.200 Access to information documents obtained by Black Locks revealed that Parks Canada left more than 577,000 acres of beetle-killed pine standing in Jasper National Park, fully aware that it posed a catastrophic wildfire risk.
00:52:06.680 And they did absolutely nothing about it.
00:52:08.880 In the entire year before the July 24, 2023, it should be 2024 wildfire, that destroyed 358 buildings and caused $1.2 billion in damages.
00:52:23.180 And that's outside of the impact to the tourism industry.
00:52:28.300 Parks Canada conducted zero prescribed burns in mountain pine beetle zones.
00:52:33.400 In fact, over four years, they only removed 1,500 acres of deadwood, less than 3% of the known hazard.
00:52:42.940 That's not even a large farm in northern Alberta worth of pine beetles.
00:52:50.000 And we know Stephen Gilbeau said this was climate change.
00:52:54.500 Harjit Sajjan said it was climate change.
00:52:56.400 The entire left said it was climate change.
00:52:58.380 And again, look inside yourself, Rosemary, because the phone call was coming from inside of the house.
00:53:04.300 There's a reason why.
00:53:06.100 Once the fire, like, it was in Jasper and it tore through Jasper.
00:53:15.280 And the fires outside of Jasper were well-managed, all things considered.
00:53:20.600 And we are in fire season right now.
00:53:22.320 My phone is going off all day and all night about a fire just north of me.
00:53:26.120 Um, and it's a seasonal thing, but the people who deal with seasonal fire seasons outside of the federal government here in Alberta are pretty darn well-equipped to deal with it.
00:53:39.680 And a lot of that has to do with, as they call it, mechanical removal of fire load, logging.
00:53:45.900 They weren't allowing logging to be done in Jasper National Park because it would be ugly and people wouldn't like it.
00:53:53.880 Well, you know what's more ugly?
00:53:55.980 Burning down, uh, a town that is so important to Albertans, uh, and the residential part of the town burned.
00:54:06.080 And don't even get me started on the mishandling of, uh, the fire response, turning away trucks, having the wrong fire hydrants in there.
00:54:12.640 Um, but this, this town is a UNESCO world heritage site, right?
00:54:18.460 Oh, there's Ryan Jesperson again.
00:54:20.240 Uh, but this town is a UNESCO world heritage site.
00:54:23.980 Somebody should have taken care of it that way.
00:54:26.800 You know, like they take care of the pyramids is a UNESCO world heritage site.
00:54:31.640 This town is on that level.
00:54:33.700 And it was burned because the feds didn't do their jobs and they were warned.
00:54:39.040 And, well, and they, it seems almost like, you know, they wanted to have an excuse for more climate hysteria pushings.
00:54:48.060 And instead of having the insights to say, oh, you know what?
00:54:54.060 I mean, why would the government admit that they dropped the ball?
00:54:56.820 But, um, they, they just tried to frame it as though this was, well, this is the, the effects of climate change and global warming.
00:55:04.900 And we probably need to tax Jasper even more than we already do, um, to prevent it all in the future.
00:55:10.820 And instead of just upholding their duty to maintain this area, like it's just the hysteria that ignites through the federal government, um, and the scrambling to cover up their tracks when they're, you know, very clearly have done, have failed in their duty here.
00:55:31.580 Um, but, but no one will be accountable.
00:55:35.600 No one will be accountable.
00:55:37.060 These people are reelected.
00:55:38.380 Stephen Gobo is still in government.
00:55:40.080 Um, even though he oversaw the burning down of the UNESCO world heritage site, imagine being able to keep your job after that.
00:55:46.160 Well, you've just imagined being a carny liberal.
00:55:48.660 Um, yeah.
00:55:49.400 And forestry experts were warning, um, multiple forestry experts, the local MP who was a conservative naturally warned about this.
00:55:59.580 Everybody in the town of Hinton, which is just to the east, uh, that's outside of the national park.
00:56:06.560 They, when I was there and I had seen with my own eyes for years and years.
00:56:12.700 Yeah.
00:56:13.380 The, there's a lot of standing deadfall here.
00:56:15.980 And this is, uh, just a recipe for disaster.
00:56:19.120 Uh, our premier at the time, she's fighting back tears, talking about, uh, the destruction of Jasper.
00:56:25.240 Uh, they turned away water trucks.
00:56:27.860 They had the wrong fire hydrants that nobody could hook to them except for Hinton.
00:56:33.540 And basically that's it.
00:56:35.440 So if you had outside municipalities, like Edson, just a little bit further up the road or an hour or so rushing into hell, they were no good.
00:56:43.980 They had parks, uh, people saying, well, you can't go to the river and suck up water because this is a national park to fight the fire.
00:56:52.400 So the water trucks that couldn't hook to the fire hydrants couldn't go to the river to suck up water to be useful.
00:57:01.420 And then the outside firefighters were told to stand down while the, uh, trailer park burned.
00:57:07.420 It was just a mess.
00:57:09.180 And, but Gilbo's got his job.
00:57:11.340 And if that's not cringe enough, we do have the final wrap up.
00:57:15.720 The daily cringe at the end of the show here.
00:57:18.200 I'm looking forward to this, but first there is a super chat from lab who gives $5.
00:57:23.100 I really want to know if my vote was counted as I marked in pen, my lady as well.
00:57:29.400 Yeah.
00:57:29.820 I mean, how do we, whoever knows, I hope so too.
00:57:35.200 Um, okay.
00:57:36.300 What's our daily dose of cringe today?
00:57:38.320 I think I saw it earlier.
00:57:39.800 Oh yes.
00:57:40.480 This is a crazy story.
00:57:43.120 Um, so just a little bit of background context.
00:57:45.500 I don't know if you've been following this story closely, Sheila, but I, okay.
00:57:49.480 I have too deep.
00:57:50.840 I'm in too deep with this story.
00:57:53.100 Yeah.
00:57:53.480 Um, so these two children, uh, have been missing in Nova Scotia.
00:57:58.180 Um, Lily and Jack Sullivan, I believe.
00:58:01.660 Yeah.
00:58:01.960 Sullivan is their last name.
00:58:03.000 Um, really weird circumstances, uh, they're four and six and it's up for debate whether
00:58:08.820 or not they have some autism or other developmental delays.
00:58:12.160 I mean, a four-year-old who's wearing a pullout anyway.
00:58:15.660 So the story with these two children is that they went missing and the parents didn't get
00:58:21.220 out of bed to be up with them in the morning.
00:58:23.400 And so they, uh, they, uh, they allegedly left through a screen door in the backyard and then
00:58:28.920 have not been seen since.
00:58:30.440 And this was, um, I believe a week ago to tomorrow that they've been missing.
00:58:35.400 And so the RCMP ground search, there's been a whole team dedicated to, um, trying to find,
00:58:42.460 locate them in this area, which is extremely rural.
00:58:44.560 It's all forested, like deep bush.
00:58:47.900 And, uh, unfortunately they haven't been successful.
00:58:50.440 And so the RCMP did an update yesterday on the search.
00:58:54.180 And just to put this into context, I'm out here in Western Canada.
00:58:59.460 Tamara is in Ontario.
00:59:01.560 The world is invested in this.
00:59:03.680 If you go on YouTube, there are like body language experts and people, uh, just really,
00:59:11.140 really, really trying to examine what happened here.
00:59:14.020 I have my own theories.
00:59:15.120 I'm going to keep them to myself, um, until we know more.
00:59:19.140 Um, but like the world is watching, just go on YouTube.
00:59:23.760 Like, you'll just see like FBI profilers, former FBI profilers discussing the parents, uh,
00:59:31.900 behavior and all of this.
00:59:33.020 So this is the time for the RCMP to shine.
00:59:38.080 Right.
00:59:39.020 And to show their competency, right.
00:59:41.180 As like an agency that's supposed to protect and uphold, um, life and liberty.
00:59:46.640 Um, yeah, there's some aerial footage now that just came out yesterday or the day before
00:59:50.320 of their house and their backyard.
00:59:52.180 And just, you know, for the viewers that are interested, go and have a look at what these
00:59:57.340 poor children were living in outside.
01:00:00.160 And, you know, maybe we can speculate.
01:00:03.020 I'm not poverty shaming.
01:00:05.140 Uh, I grew up without very much, but there, you can be both poor and not, uh, squalid.
01:00:13.460 That's all.
01:00:14.140 Disheveled.
01:00:14.960 Yeah.
01:00:15.320 Yeah.
01:00:15.500 Um, okay.
01:00:17.100 So anyway, all of that to be said, yeah, the RCMP has a great opportunity to show competency
01:00:23.040 and instill confidence and, you know, tell the public and reassure them like we're handling
01:00:28.620 this and we're looking at all avenues.
01:00:30.160 And before they even get started, they begin with this.
01:00:34.900 Good afternoon.
01:00:42.820 Sorry.
01:00:43.820 Sorry.
01:00:44.240 Good afternoon.
01:00:45.160 I am Corporal Carly McCann, Provincial Public Information Officer for the Nova Scotia RCMP.
01:00:50.600 Thank you all for being here today.
01:00:52.920 Bonjour.
01:00:53.320 Je suis la Caperelle Carly McCann, Agenda d'Information Publique for la GRC en Nouvelle-Écasse.
01:00:58.280 Merci de votre présence aujourd'hui.
01:01:00.880 First, I acknowledge that we are in Mi'kma'ki, the traditional and unceded ancestral territory
01:01:05.580 of the Mi'kma'k people. 0.99
01:01:06.940 I also recognize that African Nova Scotians are a distinct people whose histories, legacies
01:01:12.080 and contributions have enriched that part of Mi'kma'ki, known as Nova Scotia, for over
01:01:16.580 400 years.
01:01:19.600 Um, yeah, the proverbial land acknowledgement ritual that we must all engage in.
01:01:30.700 And how long was that?
01:01:31.900 The world is tuning in to find out what's happening with these kids.
01:01:36.940 And we get a 90-second land acknowledgement?
01:01:40.820 Yeah.
01:01:41.740 First of all, like, wouldn't you want to express your sincerest worries or your condolences
01:01:48.540 to the family or your hopes and aspirations to find these kids safe and alive and warm
01:01:54.640 and, um, not, anyway, um, yeah, I, you know, just to play devil's advocate, I can see it
01:02:03.080 on one hand because it is being said online and I don't know if it's totally confirmed
01:02:08.540 that the grandmother is, the grandmother is, the children were Indigenous and from the, whether
01:02:15.300 they resided in the community there, I'm not sure, but they were part of the Indigenous
01:02:20.040 community there.
01:02:20.800 But regardless, um, this is crazy to me to start off as the first thing.
01:02:26.840 What does that got to do with finding them?
01:02:27.820 I just don't know what that has to do with finding them.
01:02:30.220 There are two kids that are missing.
01:02:33.220 I have my theories.
01:02:34.480 I'm sure, Tamara, you do too.
01:02:35.560 Um, but what does the, like, the world is watching and this is what you choose to lead
01:02:42.720 with.
01:02:43.780 I hate it.
01:02:45.420 Yeah.
01:02:46.040 It's just woke nonsense.
01:02:47.480 And like, it's, it's just ideologically driven when there is a real, there are real
01:02:52.360 people, the real, small, innocent, vulnerable children who are missing.
01:02:57.940 And this is what we start first off.
01:03:01.220 I'd like to acknowledge the, what, dah, dah, dah, dah, I mean, let's talk about priorities
01:03:06.460 here.
01:03:07.820 Yeah.
01:03:08.400 Also that RCMP communications officer looked like she was going to puke. 1.00
01:03:12.640 Like, is she just the communications officer?
01:03:15.500 Yeah, exactly.
01:03:17.060 Is, is it because she's just bilingual and they're like, I guess you're the communications
01:03:21.680 officer now?
01:03:23.140 I don't know.
01:03:24.380 I'm sure she's going to do their job, but I did not enjoy this.
01:03:27.160 I kind of wonder if the RCMP know, like if they're doing some side investigations and
01:03:32.620 all, you know, all the internet sleuths are out here and doing, you know, dissecting things
01:03:37.680 that were said in the media and looking at the drone footage and the aerial footage of
01:03:41.560 the backyard.
01:03:42.040 And I wonder if the RCMP, um, has explored or is exploring any of those other avenues,
01:03:48.240 like are these kids, you know, did they actually wander off and what really happened to their
01:03:54.240 sent at the end of the driveway and these, these things that have these lingering questions.
01:03:58.980 I mean, the, the public's confidence in your competency, it leaves a lot to be desired
01:04:05.460 when you start off your press release six days, five days post these children being missing
01:04:11.640 with a land acknowledgement.
01:04:14.060 Yeah.
01:04:14.300 And this press conference is basically them saying we're scaling back the search, meaning
01:04:18.420 they don't have a hope of finding these kids alive.
01:04:22.160 Yeah.
01:04:22.260 And these are the photos.
01:04:24.280 Oh yeah.
01:04:24.720 There's the aerial photos of their property.
01:04:27.760 And some people were online saying, oh, well, it was a completely fenced backyard.
01:04:31.380 So they couldn't get out.
01:04:32.780 But if you actually zoom in a little bit, I mean, that fence is pretty, um, mismatched
01:04:37.980 together.
01:04:38.820 And so there's, there's clearly a lot of gaps in the fencing and just general climbing
01:04:43.000 unsafe situation for kids, especially kids with autism or other behavioral issues.
01:04:49.080 They often love to climb and they love to get into like crevices and explore and go in.
01:04:53.980 Like there's no risk perception there as for children, but especially children who have
01:04:58.960 certain, um, afflictions and autism spectrum disorder is one of those ones where they have
01:05:04.180 even less risk perception.
01:05:05.740 And so why you wouldn't be, you know, we can speculate, but, uh, why the parents wouldn't
01:05:10.960 have been up tending to their children's needs at 10 AM in the morning, especially if they
01:05:15.620 have special needs is, um, I think that, uh, tells you the kind of life they were living
01:05:21.920 at home, but not to speculate, but we'll let the, we'll let the super confident RCMP do
01:05:29.200 their, um, due diligence on this one.
01:05:33.900 Anyway, I'm sure the RCMP know more than we do and are saying less, but, uh, that, I
01:05:40.160 mean, that does not, I don't know when the world is watching and that's what you lead
01:05:45.420 with yikes, just like yikes, uh, Nana Wake gives us 10 bucks and says, why are Canadians
01:05:51.480 subject to a three month probation period at a new job?
01:05:54.420 But politicians aren't considering Carney's performance contradicted his anti-Trump platform
01:05:59.520 and we haven't seen his financials.
01:06:02.460 Well, we're trying to see his financials.
01:06:04.400 That's why Ezra went to Bermuda, um, which I, again, I remain shocked that Bermuda is only
01:06:10.180 three hours from Toronto.
01:06:12.160 Oh, I'm further to Toronto by plane.
01:06:16.100 I was like, what?
01:06:17.700 Um, but yeah, we're doing our best, uh, with our little tiny teeny tiny budget.
01:06:21.620 Um, Ezra went to Bermuda to track down the bike shop where, uh, Brookfield has parked some
01:06:27.120 money.
01:06:27.940 And, uh, he also flew to the Isle of Man to find the nice residential house with a old
01:06:34.800 man landlord where Brookfield IOM, Isle of Man has parked some money.
01:06:39.440 And of course we know that, uh, Brookfield also was given that $157 million relocation
01:06:46.720 contract with the troops, which they completely bungled.
01:06:51.540 That was Brookfield relocation services.
01:06:53.600 I joked yesterday that the, like the whole country is just going to be branded Brookfield.
01:06:58.440 Like the people who are going to invest or investigate the greed slash fund.
01:07:03.720 It's going to be like Brookfield forensic auditing services.
01:07:07.500 We're just going to be like that, um, Apple TV show, uh, severance where the whole, we're
01:07:14.520 just owned by Lumen, but it's Brookfield.
01:07:16.720 Oh, creepy.
01:07:18.180 Yeah.
01:07:20.220 Brookfield at all.
01:07:21.380 So, yeah, but it's true.
01:07:24.400 Why, why aren't Canadians subject to Canadian politicians subject to a three month probation
01:07:30.220 period, right?
01:07:30.700 Like we need that recall legislation. 0.92
01:07:32.700 I thought that is such, that would be such a nice thing to have in on the federal level
01:07:38.840 is to have an ability to recall politicians when they're not living up to what they campaigned
01:07:45.140 on and their political promises.
01:07:46.240 Right.
01:07:47.320 But then crappy politicians and they're even crappier enabler supporters and voters would
01:07:52.580 be crying in the blues.
01:07:54.000 Like they are in Alberta right now where we have this legislation and they're like, how
01:07:58.120 dare you, how dare you hold politicians to account?
01:08:03.120 Yeah.
01:08:03.460 We can't have that here.
01:08:05.220 We can't, we can't have that.
01:08:06.920 We're polite people.
01:08:08.120 Anyway, I think that's it.
01:08:09.620 Yeah.
01:08:09.900 I think that's it.
01:08:10.460 We're all caught up.
01:08:11.140 Yes.
01:08:11.600 Uh, yeah.
01:08:12.400 Tamara, you and I have to head and finish some work and head into a meeting anyway.
01:08:15.440 So, uh, Olivia, thank you for working, working so hard behind the scenes to put the show
01:08:21.040 together for everybody.
01:08:23.040 Um, we know we, uh, ask you to do many, many things while we're on air and you always come
01:08:28.460 through for us or at least as best you can.
01:08:30.180 Tamara, thanks for co-hosting with me today and keeping us on time and over the target.
01:08:36.260 Yeah.
01:08:36.700 Just a little bit.
01:08:38.440 Yeah.
01:08:39.380 Yeah.
01:08:39.780 We do our best, uh, anyways, uh, go to, go to YouTube if you want to get down that
01:08:45.620 rabbit hole of what happened to these kids.
01:08:47.620 Um, there's a lot of theories, a lot of theories.
01:08:50.700 Um, and I'm, I'm not, uh, I'm not going to say any, you guys can make up your own minds.
01:08:55.420 Um, thanks to everybody who chipped in to keep the lights on here at Rebel News while we go
01:08:59.820 through the news of the day.
01:09:01.340 Even if some of you don't like the news of the day, I appreciate your feedback and I will
01:09:06.160 take it to heart.
01:09:07.560 Um, we'll see everybody here tomorrow.
01:09:09.660 And as David Menzies always says, stay safe and stay sane.