On this Friday, January 24th, 2019 edition of the Rebel News Live Stream, host David Menzies and his co-host, Willoughby resident Tamara Ugolini, discuss all things Canadian politics, including the upcoming Ontario election.
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00:03:31.080And let us know what's on your mind on this Friday, January the 24th, as we head into probably a provincial election starting next week, says Premier Doug Ford.
00:03:41.260Yeah, and, you know, we'll get to that video clip in a second.
00:03:44.920Isn't it just so sad, Tamara Ugolini, that Canadians are clamoring for an election and then you wake up today with the announcement, oh, we're getting an election.
00:03:54.060Yeah, not a federal election, which everybody wants, practically.
00:03:58.920Although, if you believe Karina Gould, she says nobody, Canadians don't want a federal election.
00:04:21.100But before I get into, and you know what it reminds me of, Tamara Ugolini?
00:04:24.860It's that great sales contest in Glengarry Glen Ross where these hapless real estate guys have to go out and sell these no-hope properties.
00:04:37.160And for the month, whoever makes the most sales, well, first prize, Cadillac Eldorado.
00:04:56.700But then again, I hearken back to 1990.
00:05:00.060David Peterson, the Liberal Premier, had a majority government, went to the polls very early.
00:05:07.000And Ontario woke up to an NDP government under Bob Ray.
00:05:13.000And I will make a prediction, regardless of who wins, I think, Tamara, you're going to see one of the lowest, if not the record lowest turnout in a Ontario provincial election.
00:05:29.620One, because it's going to be in the dead of winter, which is really no excuse, but people will use that as an excuse.
00:05:37.700And secondly, even supporters of Doug Ford, and this is what he's got to be careful of, are going to say, I don't agree with this.
00:05:46.200He's going to win anyway, so I'm just going to stay at home.
00:05:49.280And the moment in elections you think it's in the bag, guess what?
00:05:53.820It comes out of the bag, especially when when it comes to the Liberals and the NDP, you have all the public union leaders.
00:06:02.980They'll be advocating. I'm not sure where they're going to weigh in, whether it's Bonnie Crombie, Liberals or the NDP, but they're highly motivated.
00:06:11.640They get out the vote. So, you know, I think he's playing with fire.
00:06:16.780But before I get your opinion on this, Tamara, why don't we check out what Premier Doug Ford had to say in that beautiful borough of Brampton?
00:06:29.200We will be calling the election next Wednesday. I'll be seeing the Lieutenant Governor on on Tuesday.
00:06:36.040We need a mandate from the people to fight against Donald Trump's tariffs, the attack he's coming against our families, our businesses, our communities.
00:06:45.520And with a strong mandate, we will be able to fight with Donald Trump to make sure we stop the tariffs and make sure that we give certainty to the people of Ontario.
00:06:58.340It may take investing tens of billions of dollars.
00:07:01.260We'll do tens of billions of dollars. It's no different than during the pandemic.
00:07:06.520We'll make sure we secure people's livelihoods and I will do whatever it takes to protect the people of Ontario.
00:07:13.420In turn, because we're the engine of Canada, protecting all Canadians, we will not back down.
00:10:44.220Yeah, that's a really good point, David.
00:10:45.220And I think that we know President Trump is a professional troll.
00:10:48.760And so he'll troll people just to gauge the temperature and to see where that line is going to be drawn.
00:10:57.140And I agree that Doug Ford's position, it started off that he was going to cut energy to the United States, cut electric energy to the United States.
00:11:07.620And then he was going to pull, I think it was bourbon from the shelves in Ontario, which you can still get, I think, at select convenience stores because of what he's done with the availability of liquor in Ontario.
00:11:22.460And now he's saying that we need a new mandate.
00:11:25.140I mean, Ford is quite literally just flip-flop Ford once again.
00:11:30.040He can't seem to figure out what exactly to nail down and to hold true on.
00:11:34.940He's just going every which way and throwing things at the wall to see what will stick is how I'm reading this.
00:11:40.800You know, and by the way, Tamara Ugolini, I'm going to give myself a Barry Horowitz pat on the back because I think I coined the nickname Triple F for him, flip-flop Ford.
00:11:52.460This guy flip-flops more than a marlin once you, you know, reel it in and throw it on the surface of the boat.
00:12:00.140But I just want to point out one thing you said, and you're absolutely right.
00:12:04.260One of the targets, if you can imagine, is Kentucky bourbon.
00:12:10.060And he's got the power, evidently, to yank Kentucky bourbon off the shelves of the hard liquor monopoly that is the LCBO.
00:12:21.700Yeah, we, in Ontario, the market's being opened up for supermarkets and gas stations and convenience stores to sell liquor.
00:12:28.540Oh, but not all liquor, beer and wine.
00:12:31.240We're not quite adult enough for the hard stuff to marry you, Galini.
00:12:34.560And if you can explain why, there's a steak dinner in it for you.
00:12:38.680But as I understand it, these Kentucky distilleries, I've been told, I'll have to fact check this, get a lot of their rye from the province of Alberta.
00:12:50.380So, you know, Triple F, he's hurting Albertans and a Canadian province by eradicating Kentucky bourbon on the shelves of our liquor monopoly stores.
00:13:02.060Unbelievable. But why don't we move on to, oh, love this one, Tamara, you, Galini.
00:13:10.460It is a blackface mocking Trump's vision of a new American golden age.
00:13:18.820Let's hear the prime minister taking the long goodbye exit, weighing in on Trump's magnificent speech going back to Monday.
00:13:30.800Donald Trump has announced that he wants a golden age for the American economy.
00:13:36.760That means they're going to need more energy, more minerals, more steel and aluminum, more lumber, more concrete,
00:13:45.080more of the things that Canada is already sending them as a reliable and trustworthy partner.
00:13:52.880If he does move forward on tariffs on Canada, as he has said, whether it be back on January 20th or on February 1st or February 15th as a Valentine's Day present or on April 1st,
00:14:08.500so whenever he says he's going to do it, as he keeps repeating, two things will happen.
00:14:13.360One, Canada will have a strong, robust response because we don't want this, but we will respond if necessary.
00:14:21.000And two, prices for American consumers on just about everything will go up.
00:14:50.140It's and, you know, he says something.
00:14:52.120Canada will have a strong, robust response.
00:14:55.140But the prime minister, who's outgoing, by the way, he's resigned from his post as prime minister.
00:15:01.400And now the liberals on the federal level are too busy playing political musical chairs, trying to figure out who's going to lead the party, then actually lead the country.
00:15:11.320He's saying this as he left his post as prime minister, is waiting for his successor to come in and fill those very small shoes.
00:15:19.400And then he's also prorogued parliament.
00:15:22.740So we don't even have a functioning federal government as it stands currently.
00:15:27.520And we won't until the end of March, if all goes according to Trudeau's plan.
00:15:33.500And so how he can stand up there with his sweater on backwards and tell Canadians that we will have a strong, robust response as he's exiting his role and he's prorogued our parliamentary business is absolutely absurd.
00:15:47.800I don't know what kind of la-la imaginary land Trudeau's living in, but it's not reality.
00:15:54.720Yeah. And, you know, you make a great point about his haberdashery, Tamera Ugolini.
00:15:59.460I mean, yeah, you don't have to wear a tuxedo, but he is still the prime minister.
00:16:10.960Yeah. And, you know, I like a little decorum to go with the leader of the nation, even him.
00:16:20.400This idea of a backwards sweater and looks like the kind of blue jeans you would wear around the house when you're doing spring cleaning.
00:16:29.680Um, come on, uh, is, uh, well, at least, uh, you know, I can't remember his name.
00:16:36.280Well, who was the liberal MP that showed up for a zoom meeting twice naked?
00:16:40.680Um, so he's no longer there, but, um, I guess we should be grateful for small mercies, but Tamera here, here's where I come.
00:16:51.540Um, the chutzpah of Trudeau talking about energy, right?
00:16:58.400That is going to the U S that we're such a important provider of energy.
00:17:03.620And this is someone who has sabotaged, especially Alberta energy programs in terms of not allowing pipelines to get their trillions.
00:17:15.580Yes. Trillions with a T mineral wealth, um, to market, or even down to Houston to be refined into, you know, actual oil and gas that is used at the consumer level.
00:17:30.700And also Trudeau better be careful because it's not like Canada has monopoly.
00:17:38.260There are other nations that can provide energy, but the number one provider of energy for the United States of America might be drum roll, please.
00:17:50.100The United States of America under Trump's original reign.
00:17:55.160The U S for the first time in 70 years was energy independent, thanks to the fracking miracle that Biden and his cohorts, uh, eradicated.
00:18:09.800In fact, the U S was actually exporting energy in the four years that Donald Trump was the president.
00:18:17.060So, um, if he can, if he could do it four years ago, uh, to marry you, Galini, why can't he do it again?
00:18:25.520So I don't think we can play that Trump card a and B, you know, how disingenuous can you get the only reason, um, blackface doesn't allow those, uh, energy projects to come to fruition in our very own dominion.
00:18:42.620Well, that's out West where what in Alberta, I think the liberals have one MP.
00:18:48.120So, uh, it's a write-off for them politically.
00:18:51.600And secondly, it's all about playing the climate change narrative.
00:18:56.020We've got to go to the poor house with a smile on our face.
00:19:05.040And part of Trump's, uh, first orders of business as president, when he took the reins on Monday was he explicitly stated over and over, he's going to bring manufacturing back into the United States and reduce their dependency on foreign exports and international trade.
00:19:23.520So this flies in the face of everything that Trump announced on Monday that he's going to do to, to stop being so reliable on these external factors.
00:19:32.800And then, um, I don't know if we're going to get into it later, but maybe now's a good time to, to bring it up.
00:19:38.860Quebec has now sided with Alberta premier Danielle Smith and said, wait a minute.
00:19:44.360No, anything that we do disrupting this flow of energy and trade between our two countries, because the United States is our closest ally and partner when it comes to the global economy.
00:19:56.220And he even warns that disrupting the flow of energy from Quebec and Alberta and the rest of Canada into the United States would put our country in a very weak position to negotiate future contracts.
00:20:09.300So this is really, you know, the, the Trudeau is, is parroting this team Canada approach and we're united and Ford's kind of falling in line with Trudeau.
00:20:18.820I mean, as we've seen him do repeatedly over the last few years, but then you have some of the provinces, finally Alberta and now Quebec.
00:20:25.200And I think, I suspect that maybe Saskatchewan won't be too far behind.
00:20:29.300They're coming together and saying, no, no, no, hold on a minute.
00:20:32.440This is damaging to our relationship now, but also into the future.
00:20:36.200And we need to really think twice about how we proceed here and they're not on team Canada.
00:20:44.840And now in Ontario, we're heading into an election as well.
00:20:47.380I mean, this quite literally, and I just did a report on it yesterday.
00:20:50.900This is a political dumpster fire that we have here in Canada and especially in Ontario where flip flop Ford just can't even make up his mind on how best to proceed.
00:20:59.080And so he just wants to call an election and I guess that will help him to figure it out.
00:21:05.340First of all, that alliance that you see with the premiers of Quebec and Alberta, it just shows you, and I don't think I'm exaggerating, since Monday, the world is changing on a daily basis.
00:21:21.980I mean, even at the inauguration, when you saw so many people, all the, you know, billionaire, even trillionaire tech CEOs showing up at the inauguration, I heard one analyst say, if I didn't see it with my own eyes, I would have sworn this was an AI generated image.
00:21:42.740So, um, enemies are becoming friends or at least frenemies.
00:21:48.200And, um, this is yet another indication of that.
00:21:51.860And, uh, again, on, um, Doug Ford saying he's got to call an election to get a mandate to save Ontario and therefore Canada.
00:22:01.480And, you know, where my beat the meter, you know, the needle on my BS meter, Tamara Ugolini veered heavily into the red zone.
00:22:11.280When I heard him condemning his opponents, liberal leader, Bonnie Crombie, uh, NDP leader, uh, Merritt Stiles, he said, if either of those ladies had to negotiate with Trump, his quote was, they would be an absolute disaster for Ontario and thereby Canada.
00:23:37.620And, you know, Ryerson Gary is correct.
00:23:39.600Calling him the liberal, uh, premier of Ontario, or certainly the party's official name is, uh, progressive conservative, uh, forget the conservative part, uh, emphasize the progressive part.
00:24:24.400Also, he's spending like a drunken sailor.
00:24:28.060Um, another example, uh, I, I spoke of this in, in a rant earlier this week.
00:24:34.260Um, it's a little thing, but it's about bending the knee to won't cancel culture for five years now on the lawns of Queens Park, the statue of our first prime minister, a conservative, no less.
00:24:48.100Sir John A. Macdonald remains in a tomb, a makeshift coffin, because it was too triggering, uh, to the likes of Black Lives Matter, um, uh, adherence and Antifa.
00:25:01.660And you had Bonnie Crombie, the liberal leader of the, uh, liberal, uh, party of Ontario coming to the defense of taking down that coffin to display Sir John A. Macdonald.
00:25:18.500Um, I'll take her at her word, but imagine that, uh, Tamara, a conservative air quotes premier doesn't want to see that trigger called our first prime minister on the lawns of Queens.
00:25:31.580And in 2018 said to the city of Victoria, BC, which was the first to hop on the John A. Macdonald cancellation program.
00:25:41.720If you're taking your Sir John state, a statue down, send it to Ontario.
00:25:48.700So he's gone from, we'll have two Sir John's on the lawns of Queens Park to no Sir John's and a liberal saying, Hey, bring back Sir John A. Macdonald.
00:26:00.600I think I'm living on the bizarro Superman world right now.
00:26:19.360Um, so I'm hoping that actually having Donald Trump back as the president of the United States will kind of reign in some of this hysteria and this illogical nonsense that we're living through.
00:26:28.580But we'll see because even Trump is, is acknowledging and recognizing that Canada is not being very cooperative.
00:26:36.700You know, it's funny because we're known on the global stage as being these like passive kind of go along to get along kind of people.
00:26:42.900And now we have these ridiculous leaders that are supposed to be elected to represent us, not actually representing the true wants and needs of Canadians.
00:26:53.920And Trump's seeing that it's, they're, they're being very difficult to deal with.
00:26:58.380Um, here, let's, let's show this quick clip of Trump saying that.
00:27:42.780We have our, we have more than anybody.
00:27:45.260So, uh, you know, just as an example, uh, with Mexico, we're dealing with Mexico, I think, very well.
00:27:51.360And, uh, we're just, uh, you know, we, we just want to be treated fairly with other nations because there's hardly a nation in the world.
00:28:00.500And I blame this on us and I blame it on, uh, politicians that for some reason, I'm probably mostly at stupidity, but you could also say, uh, other reasons, but mostly stupidity.
00:28:12.620They've allowed other nations to take advantage of the U.S.
00:28:16.140And we can't allow that to happen anymore.
00:28:19.160It's a very small debt when you compare it to value, the value of the assets that we have, but we don't want to do that.
00:28:26.220We want to just have, uh, debt be obliterated and we'll be able to do that fairly rapidly.
00:28:32.840And a lot of good things are going to happen.
00:28:34.740Yeah, he's saying there too, uh, in cutting off, uh, billions in global aid funding where the U.S., you know, Trump is saying, you know what, we're done.
00:28:47.680We need to pay off some of this debt, get out of this deficit.
00:28:49.760And first order of business is, A, slapping tariffs on everybody who is acting a fool on the global stage.
00:28:57.100And B, by cutting off these nonsensical billions, we are funding, you know, various, especially DEI initiatives in other countries like Africa.
00:29:10.940But we don't have any leaders on the world stage, um, and we don't even have anybody on the federal government level who are acting the same way and saying, you know what, why are we sending billions in aid for things like, uh, birth control in Africa when we have people here in Canada who can't even get a house to live in?
00:29:33.380You know, Tamara, can anyone blame, I mean, you know, just being objective about what President Trump is saying, can anyone blame him for saying it?
00:29:44.140He ran on a platform of America First.
00:29:47.100His slogan is make America great again, not make North America great again, but America as in the United States of America.
00:29:55.700And I got to tell you, as much as I'm a proud Canadian, um, and I'm not, I'm not making a joke, uh, here, but if we face the specter of another four year term of these federal liberals, and I don't care who's at the helm, whether it's, uh, Mark Carney or where's Waldo, as they call him.
00:30:17.460He just disappeared for the past week after making his announcement, or if it's Fraulein Freeland, I would prefer to be part of the United States of America.
00:30:29.380I would prefer to be part of a country with such a strong constitution, which features the first amendment and the second amendment.
00:30:37.440Because I think the death knell for Canada would be if these liberals somehow, someway got re-elected.
00:30:45.980And I would do this as a bargaining position to Trump.
00:30:50.420On condition of us becoming the 51st state, which is kind of ridiculous.
00:30:55.000I mean, how can the 51st state be bigger than all the 50 states combined?
00:30:59.880Well, you know, I think we'd have to, all the provinces and all the territories would have to be their own states.
00:31:30.100So, yeah, I'm definitely open to hearing more and having those negotiations.
00:31:37.120And Danielle Smith, it really is like the light in all of this darkness, who's the one seeming, who seems to be really leading the charge and leading the country through this tumultuous time.
00:31:48.500And she says here it's time for Team Canada, you know, quote unquote, which she didn't join, to get serious about domestic energy security, nation building, and trying to grow our economy.
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00:32:55.760So maybe we should just cut to that quick video of Premier Tim Houston.
00:33:00.760The jurisdiction has unique potential impacts.
00:33:05.360But certainly during the discussion, you know, I called for the Prime Minister and asked the federal government to immediately approve the Energy East project.
00:33:15.820That's something that they could do, and I encourage them to do.
00:33:18.020There was support from a number of premiers on that as well.
00:33:20.960If we needed more urgency to strengthen our country, we got it, right?
00:33:25.480So we need to make sure that we have incredible natural resources.
00:33:28.820We have to recognize that and tap into that potential.
00:33:33.180That's a strength we have as a country.
00:33:34.660It's certainly a strength we have as a province.
00:33:36.800Well, diversification, it kind of goes without saying that we need to make sure that there are customers all around the world for what we have.
00:33:44.780And the United States is a huge market, and it's been a convenient customer.
00:33:50.720But now is the time to also, of course, look for diversification, not only across our country, but around the world.
00:33:58.340And, you know, a project like the Energy East could move resources from the West to the East and then on to Europe.
00:34:04.240Like, it will open up incredible opportunities for our country.
00:34:08.220Well, Tamara Ugolini, knock me down with a feather.
00:34:11.280Suddenly, pipelines aren't the devil's playthings anymore.
00:34:15.940Suddenly, there's some merit into pipelines transferring our energy wealth.
00:34:22.300Like I said, the world is changing every day since inauguration.
00:34:25.940Well, and there's a progressive conservative of Nova Scotia, you know, and taking such a drastic turn or taking a different path than our apparent progressive conservative government, Doug Ford.
00:34:39.620I mean, it's just if we want to pretend like we're on a unified Team Canada approach, let's at least get it together and try to have some unified messaging here.
00:34:48.220We have Alberta doing one thing, Quebec siding with them, Nova Scotia coming in and siding somewhat with some of what they say.
00:34:56.680And then we have Doug Ford, who's just like a fish out of water, flip-flopping every which way, doesn't know where he's going to land.
00:35:04.660And so, well, let's just call an election and hope that the riffraff sorts itself out, I guess.
00:35:47.220Yeah, well, if we had 40% voter turnout last time at the actual scheduled election,
00:35:52.540I'm really nervous to know what the voter turnout would be this time.
00:35:56.560I don't even know that I've heard any comments from Bonnie Crombie or Stiles about what their plan of attack would be with this looming trade war.
00:36:07.720I really don't want to even think what it would be like trying to negotiate with those two individuals.
00:36:16.500I mean, Ford has tons of faults, don't get me wrong.
00:36:19.660And he's certainly not my first choice.
00:36:21.980But the other choices aren't any better.
00:36:24.960And that's the problem inherently with politics is that sometimes you just have to choose the one that's not the that's the least bad.
00:36:36.280And we're left at the end of the day trying to scramble to pick one that is the not so bad option.
00:36:42.200Yeah, it's so hard to say because Toronto always votes so much differently than some of the rest of the province.
00:36:49.400I mean, I live in a rural municipality where it's very heavy conservative, both on a provincial and of course, we have a federal conservative MP here as well.
00:37:01.200And so it's it's hard to gauge the temperature in other regions because Toronto feels like such an outside world, even though it's only 100 kilometers away.
00:37:10.380Yeah. And, you know, Tamara Gullini, I agree with you with all the choices being bad.
00:37:15.420It reminds me of the tagline for the movie Aliens versus Predator, which was no matter which side wins, we lose.