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00:00:27.420 Well, hi, everybody. It's Ezra Levant from Rebel News. Great to see you. You know,

00:00:32.680 from time to time, I do these live streams. Most of the time, it's my colleagues, Sheila Gunn-Reed

00:00:36.340 and David Menzies, but there's so much going on, and Sheila's super busy, and David's actually

00:00:42.000 taking a well-deserved break, so perfect opportunity for me to hop back in the chair. There's so much

00:00:46.400 going on in the world. Like every other Canadian, I've been riveted by the trade war that never

00:00:52.720 needed to be. You know, I remember, Claire Isabel, when Donald Trump tweeted to both Mexico and Canada

00:01:01.180 saying, and this was shortly after his election victory in November, he said, by the time I take

00:01:06.380 office on January 20th, I want both borders sealed to drugs and to illegal migrants. And I always

00:01:12.540 thought, boy, we're such a small percentage of the problem in terms of open border migration to Mexico.

00:01:18.700 He probably just put Canada in there because, you know, he didn't want to be seen to be obsessing

00:01:25.220 over Mexico. That's what I thought. Because just the raw numbers, Canada is so much smaller.

00:01:31.120 I since learned that actually the number of suspected terrorists apprehended at the border

00:01:37.900 on the Canadian side is larger than on the Mexican side. I didn't know that. But I assumed that this

00:01:44.660 was Trump just signaling, I'd like to get things started really quickly. I don't want to wait till

00:01:51.380 inauguration on January 20th before I start signaling what I want to do. So it was his way of giving Canada

00:01:59.060 and Mexico a chance to get a head start so everyone could be in harmony on Jan 20th. It was kind of a

00:02:06.220 transition move, buying himself a couple extra months. Now, the president of Mexico, Claudia Scheinbaum,

00:02:13.720 if I'm saying her name right, immediately phoned Trump and immediately agreed. Mexico is so

00:02:23.380 dependent on the United States in a number of obvious ways, but other ways, for example,

00:02:27.820 the number of remittances from Mexican workers in the United States sending money back home is an

00:02:33.440 enormous source of capital for Mexico in a way that doesn't really apply to Canada. And I think

00:02:40.720 Claudia Scheinbaum, and I think maybe it's a language issue, they speak Spanish, America in the

00:02:45.740 whole speaks English. So they're not in the same sort of media, mean girls about Trump world.

00:02:53.460 I think Mexico has its own sort of inferiority complex and its own psychological issues dealing

00:02:59.600 with mighty America. But I think she basically said, all right, we're going to seal the border.

00:03:04.880 It really wasn't on them. It was on Biden, wasn't it? But in the case of Canada, as you know,

00:03:13.380 the liberal leader, the lame duck liberal leader, who's only here until March 9th, Justin Trudeau,

00:03:20.900 immediately skipped over what Trump actually wanted and went straight to the trade war. Oh,

00:03:26.380 we'll fight back. And it was so obvious of what insurance companies call a moral hazard. Have you ever

00:03:32.760 heard that phrase? A moral hazard is when the risk of you doing a bad thing becomes so large that you

00:03:40.700 actually choose to do the bad thing for rational reasons. In insurance, it would be if you don't

00:03:49.540 have a deductible on your car, like if you don't have to pay the first $500 or $1,000 of a fender

00:03:57.640 bender, then you're probably going to drive a little more recklessly because you know there's

00:04:02.840 no deterrent to doing it. The reason insurance companies have a deductible is so that you feel

00:04:08.880 the pain. So you're going to be driving for the first amount of money. So you're going to drive a

00:04:14.240 little better. And if there's something catastrophic that happens, sure, they'll cover it, but they want

00:04:18.420 you on your good behavior. I think you can just sort of think of all the moral hazards we have in

00:04:24.960 Canada because consequences are removed from responsibility. So for example, our healthcare

00:04:29.800 system, we never actually see the real cost of it. So we think it's free. And so there's probably a

00:04:37.100 lot of decisions that Canadians make that they wouldn't make if they even just knew what the

00:04:41.680 costs were. Anyway, moral hazard, the moral hazard that Justin Trudeau, Melanie Jolie, and now Mark Carney

00:04:47.760 and Christia Freeland have is that in the case of Trudeau, this is his swan song. He's out of here

00:04:53.360 in almost exactly a month. This is his way to end on a nicer note than being driven out by his own

00:05:00.940 party and humiliated by Christia Freeland. So he wants to go out as Captain Canada. And by the way,

00:05:07.580 I think it's quite likely he's going to move on on March 9th, but I wouldn't say it's 100% likelihood.

00:05:12.200 I'd say it's more like 90%. And as to his successors, Mark Carney and Christia Freeland, again, who would

00:05:19.820 they rather meet in the next election? Pierre Polyev, strong, commanding lead, very solid on issues

00:05:27.040 like carbon tax? Or would they rather fight against Donald Trump, the outside marauder, who is less

00:05:33.340 popular in Canada than Polyev? And again, they can paint themselves as Captain Canada. And as I've always

00:05:39.520 said, when you campaign against Donald Trump, and here's the moral hazard, I mean, tariffs would be

00:05:47.280 a bad thing for Canada. If they slapped import duties on stuff we sell Americans, that will cause

00:05:53.060 Americans to choose other sources for those things, or make Canadian factories actually relocate into the

00:05:59.700 US. That's a bad thing for us. But if it allows Christia Freeland or Mark Carney to say, look at Donald

00:06:06.020 Trump, he's devastated our economy to sort of cover over the fact that the liberals, in fact, have

00:06:11.140 devastated our economy for almost 10 years. That's the moral hazard, I mean. So it's been fascinating to

00:06:17.860 watch. And Trump gave both Canada and Mexico a reprieve a couple days ago. And now he said in both

00:06:27.460 cases, he's going to watch how things go for 30 days. To tell you the truth, I think it is fair to say

00:06:33.340 that Justin Trudeau didn't particularly concede a lot. To say that, you know, these terror, these drug

00:06:43.520 cartels are terror groups, what does Trudeau really care? To say there'll be 10,000 people on border

00:06:50.440 patrol? Well, Bill Blair, I don't know if you saw this, Olivia, Bill Blair immediately clarified that

00:06:54.920 none of those will be soldiers, and that'll include off-site staff. That's just bureaucrats.

00:07:00.180 So I actually don't think Trudeau made concessions, because I don't think Trudeau wanted to make

00:07:05.780 concessions. I think he wanted to fight. We'll see how that goes. In fact, the most convincing

00:07:13.060 argument to Donald Trump, do you have that Michigan senator that we used the other day, Olivia?

00:07:20.080 The most convincing argument, I think, that protected Canada was certainly not from Justin Trudeau,

00:07:26.000 who wanted a trade war. Certainly not from Chrystia Freeland. And I'll show you, I'll show this video

00:07:31.000 later, Olivia, the video of one of several times when Chrystia Freeland boasted to liberal supporters

00:07:38.160 that Trump hates her, and that's why they should support her. Talk about a moral hazard. Like,

00:07:43.140 normally you want to succeed, you want to win-win with the other party of a negotiation. When you're

00:07:48.340 bragging that the person on the other side of the table hates you, that's your way of saying,

00:07:53.080 I value the fight more than the resolution of the fight. Anyways, let me know when you have

00:07:58.860 the clip of the Michigan senator. I think it was Howard Lutnick was the witness before

00:08:06.500 the Senate. Lutnick is the Commerce Secretary for Donald Trump. And a senator from Michigan,

00:08:17.140 who I think is Democrat, I'd have to double check, was explaining why import tariffs would hurt

00:08:24.340 American automakers. And go ahead and play a clip if I think you have it on the screen there.

00:08:31.880 You know, I know that tariffs are certainly a powerful and a positive tool that can be used,

00:08:39.060 but they need to be used strategically. They need to be used thoughtfully. And that's why I called for

00:08:45.280 100% tariffs on Chinese vehicles last year. And why I'm going to continue to fight for aggressive

00:08:51.720 trade policy when it comes to our relations with China. As a senator from Michigan, I'm particularly

00:08:58.880 focused on manufacturing. We know how to make things in Michigan. And I don't think you can be a great

00:09:04.040 country if you don't actually make things. And that's what we do in my state. And I want to work

00:09:08.220 with the administration to make sure we're growing that sector, as well as creating good paying

00:09:12.700 jobs that result from manufacturing. However, I am concerned that President Trump's plan to impose

00:09:20.320 tariffs on Canada and Mexico for the rest of the world. In fact, it could be in a matter of days,

00:09:26.860 is what we are hearing, could hurt our manufacturers who do considerable trade back and forth,

00:09:34.720 as we discussed in the office. Michigan is the home of the top three border crossings in North

00:09:41.340 America. We're two of them. And a lot of that are auto parts that go back and forth. It's a highly

00:09:46.240 integrated industry. And our auto companies are very concerned about what those tariffs might mean

00:09:53.220 to cost, particularly to the cost of vehicles. Already, something we discussed, I'm concerned about

00:09:59.520 the high cost of vehicles. Many families can't afford them now. And if tariffs are put in place that deal

00:10:05.900 with that seamless trade that goes on with Canada, that that in the short run could definitely have

00:10:12.460 an impact on prices and make cars even more unaffordable. I don't think that's something

00:10:17.460 the American people want to see. And I'm afraid it would hurt consumers, as well as also hurt those

00:10:23.620 workers. So my question for you, sir, is talk me through how those tariffs would be implemented,

00:10:30.080 what you're thinking. And then Lutnik responds that the tariff is the penalty for not fixing the

00:10:38.180 border. He has some interesting thoughts. But wouldn't you say that's a Democrat senator's name

00:10:42.200 is Gary Peters. He's from Michigan. Did you hear his case? He's he is a sanctions and tariffs guy.

00:10:50.360 He wants a 100 percent tariff on China. Why? Because China is a competitor to Michigan and to America

00:10:58.600 when it comes to cars. But did you hear what he said about how a tariff on auto parts would really

00:11:03.540 hurt American automakers? Because if you know anything about the Ambassador Bridge and Michigan

00:11:09.140 and Ontario, Windsor and Detroit, there really are. It's sort of like that town in Alberta called

00:11:15.680 Lloydminster that's half on the Alberta side, half on the Saskatchewan side. It's an interesting

00:11:21.380 by jurisdictional place. And I think that's what Senator Peters was saying there is the same car

00:11:29.280 is made partly in Canada and partly in the States. If you smack the Canadian side with tariffs, it's

00:11:34.860 going to hurt the whole product. I thought that was the most convincing speech I heard coming from

00:11:39.440 America against tariffs on Canada. The second most convincing person, of course, is Alberta Premier

00:11:44.760 Danielle Smith, who's probably had 100 meetings in Washington, D.C. and other places in the last

00:11:51.880 couple of months. There's an America first case for putting tariffs on products that could or should

00:12:01.440 be made in America. But with the oil sands, you can't move them to America. They stay where they are.

00:12:07.900 On the auto sector, you could move factories into America. But really, Windsor is like a satellite

00:12:15.020 of America. They have had free trade for decades. It's called the Auto Pact.

00:12:21.220 Anyways, my point is, these were the people likely who were more effective. That's Senator Peters,

00:12:29.040 who I thought he came across very well. And in fact, I had to Google to check that he was a Democrat.

00:12:34.460 He was so respectful of Lutnik and even Trump. I guess the Senate is slightly less partisan because

00:12:41.580 they have six-year terms. They're more collegial. There's only 100 of them.

00:12:46.600 The reason we do not have tariffs on our country right now is not because of Trudeau, Carney, or

00:12:52.700 Freeland. They all want them. Understand, they want them for their political career. Same with Doug Ford.

00:12:58.120 The reason we don't have tariffs in Canada right now is because Danielle Smith convinced the

00:13:03.700 administration that it would be nutty to tax Canadian oil, which just goes to U.S. refineries

00:13:08.540 and then on to gas stations. You're not going to move the oil sands to America, and 100% of that

00:13:13.720 cost is going to be borne by those American refineries. And people like Senator Peters are saying,

00:13:19.140 listen, if you understand the auto industry like I do, you understand it is integrated across the

00:13:23.780 border. And that's not, you can't change it like that. That's why we don't have tariffs in Canada

00:13:29.800 today. Now, Trump says he's going to revisit this in 30 days, and he might. And I think there's a list

00:13:35.680 of issues that Trump has other than immigration and drugs. He mentioned that why are there no American

00:13:45.580 banks allowed in Canada? Don't you think that's a good question? While we're at it, why are no

00:13:51.480 American airlines really allowed? Well, I guess they do fly in and out, but there's a lot. Here's a

00:13:57.500 better example, cell phones. You know, have you ever Googled what cell phone prices like data are in

00:14:03.580 other countries? Canada has literally like the first or the second most expensive cell phone costs in the

00:14:10.620 world. It's because they're protected from competition from the U.S. How much do you love

00:14:16.260 Rogers or Bell or Telus? I have, over the course of my life, had cell phones with each of those companies.

00:14:23.140 They are all terrible people. And they're terrible people because they don't have to be good.

00:14:29.300 In a normal market, everyone's jostling for the clients and they're trying to be friendly. I mean,

00:14:35.280 think of how competitive, say, the restaurant industry is, the service, the hospitality industry,

00:14:40.520 they're called these nice things because they're trying to love you and woo you and win your heart.

00:14:45.920 When was the last time a cell phone company treated you with love and respect and hospitality? Why

00:14:52.460 aren't they called hospitality or service industries? Because they don't have to be. Again, there's a kind

00:14:57.060 of a moral hazard there too when you think about it because you can't escape the monopoly or the

00:15:02.080 oligopoly. You can't escape Bell, Shaw, and Rogers because there's, where's T-Mobile? Where's Vodafor? I don't

00:15:08.960 even know what they're called in America or, and I know T-Mobile and AT&T. I don't know all the names

00:15:15.040 of the different cell phone companies. Why can't I choose one of them? I don't have to. Why can't

00:15:20.780 I choose an American bank? I'm not going to be forced to, but why can't I choose to? And that's

00:15:25.080 one of the reasons we have the worst banks and the worst cell phone companies in the world. It's a

00:15:28.820 moral hazard. And by the way, I think once we deal with the border thing, Donald Trump might come for

00:15:34.320 those others. And you might say, well, that's not fair. That's not friendly. That's not nice. What

00:15:38.760 happened to be being best friends? Well, why, why should Canadian banks have access to America?

00:15:47.000 There's a lot of TD bank. Have you ever traveled through the United States? There's a ton of Canadian

00:15:50.520 banks in there. Why, why isn't, isn't it reciprocal? And Trump will talk about how we lie down on the job

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00:16:23.920 do. Can you pull up Andrew Coyne's tweet where he, he's gone bonkers. He says Canada should consider

00:16:34.620 pulling out of the Five Eyes Intelligence Alliance. I don't know if you know what the Five Eyes is. You

00:16:40.840 know, there's all these international groups. There's the G7. Those are seven countries that have

00:16:46.220 amongst the largest economies in the world. It doesn't quite, but Canada's in the G7. It actually

00:16:52.160 generally shouldn't be. There's the G20, which is a larger group. There's NATO, which is a North

00:16:59.860 American treaty organization. But there's something called the Five Eyes, and I sort of call it the

00:17:04.320 super friends. They're the five best friends. Can you guess who's in them if you don't know?

00:17:09.840 Canada, the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, and New Zealand. So those are like the

00:17:15.240 League of Democracies. Italy's not in there. France is not in there. Israel's not in there.

00:17:21.260 These are the five closest buddies. You could call them the Anglosphere.

00:17:26.720 And they have something called the Five Eyes, because it has to do with spying.

00:17:31.780 If you're looking for it, Olivia, I replied to, I retweeted him. So maybe it's faster to find it on

00:17:37.420 my Twitter account. So the Five Eyes is basically how the CIA shares information with CSIS, shares

00:17:44.780 information with MI6 and whatever it's called in Australia and New Zealand. It's really extra

00:17:55.360 secret secrets that we share with each other. And obviously, the little guys are the chief

00:18:02.080 beneficiaries of that. I mean, I have a lot of concerns about CSIS and their focus on truckers and

00:18:10.460 right-wingers and crazy stuff like that. I'm sure CSIS does some good work. But just in terms of

00:18:18.260 resources and people and budgets, the CIA and even MI6 are vastly superior. So Canada obviously gets the

00:18:26.500 best out of that deal. It's information sharing. I'm sure for every tip that we give the Yanks that

00:18:36.700 they don't already know in the CIA, there's 100 tips they give us. I mean, it's sort of a joke

00:18:41.520 that we're in the Five Eyes and it's equal. Here, blow that up and show what Coyne said. And I'll

00:18:46.740 show you my reply. Andrew Coyne wrote, he's responding to Trump offering the CIA buyouts and the FBI.

00:18:58.280 And Coyne says, this is just utterly dismaying. The CIA will no longer be defending America

00:19:05.620 and the free world from hostile dictatorships. It will be defending the hostile Trump dictatorship

00:19:11.720 from the free world. Another reason to keep U.S. out of Five Eyes loop? There's so many little

00:19:20.180 nuggets in there. Andrew Coyne, with whom I used to be friendly about 20 years ago, I think it's gone

00:19:25.320 positively mad. The Trump dictatorship. But my favorite part there from General Coyne is he's

00:19:33.400 going to pull Canada out of the Five Eyes. That'll show the CIA. They'll no longer have it. Here's

00:19:39.980 what I tweeted in reply. I said, General Coyne says, keep U.S. out of the Five Eyes. Absolutely.

00:19:49.160 The CIA and NSA, that's their electronic spy agency, will come crawling back to us. We have

00:19:55.760 expertise spying on truckers. We should also tell Trump our 1980s era CF-18s will no longer defend

00:20:02.960 them. We're tired of doing all the work in this relationship. Can you imagine being a writer for

00:20:09.060 the Globe and Mail, which I think is Canada's most prestigious newspaper. It's owned by Canada's

00:20:15.140 richest oligarch, David Thompson. And you're calling Trump a dictatorship. And even if that's

00:20:21.380 just florid language, you're seriously recommending we pull out of the Five Guys security alliance,

00:20:30.140 the spy sharing info alliance, to get back at Trump. Because we'll show them. Oh my God. That's

00:20:41.040 my point about, it would be a disaster for Canada to pull out of the Five Eyes. I mean, every month

00:20:48.180 there's another news story that says U.S. officials tipped off the RCMP. I mean, the last several

00:20:56.780 terrorists that were apprehended in Canada were not found by, they were let in by Canada. Canada didn't

00:21:04.300 vet them. It was Americans that tipped off Canadian officials to it. So not only is that another way

00:21:12.960 we benefit from our relationship with the United States, but it's, you saw the moral hazard there

00:21:18.040 of, of imagine saying, we're going to leave the Five Eyes alliance to punish Trump because we hate

00:21:24.940 him. Just absolute madness. I should stop focusing on Andrew Quinn because I, I think his descent into

00:21:32.100 madness is precisely because he's losing relevance. 15 years ago, before Twitter was a big thing,

00:21:39.180 people sort of, I don't, I wouldn't say they looked up to pundits, but they thought, wow, he's,

00:21:44.500 he writes a column for the Globe and Mail. He's on TV panel for the CBC. He writes with the Toronto Star.

00:21:53.760 Wow, they are above us. Even if they're not great, they have those positions and we can't get there.

00:21:58.860 There's such a barrier to entry. You have to be part of an exclusive club. Today, talk is cheap.

00:22:05.740 Opinions are cheap. Anyone can be a dramatic blowhard on Twitter and the prestige and the

00:22:13.420 restriction on competition to be a blowhard, a pundit, someone with hot takes, there's zero barriers,

00:22:20.340 zero barriers to entry. And so unless you're really interesting or really smart or have some really

00:22:26.740 unique ideas, you're competing with countless other regular amateurs on, on Twitter, just

00:22:35.240 pontificating. I mean, I, I, I follow some, I try and follow a range of people. I probably follow

00:22:41.200 about 2000 people on Twitter. I don't know. And I'll give you an example of someone who I find very

00:22:47.440 interesting. His name is Mike Cernovich. Don't agree with everything he says, but he's got a knack

00:22:53.780 for thinking unconventionally, sort of oblique thinking. And I just, I follow him again, not

00:23:01.820 because I agree with everything he says, but he, he's got a way of thinking that I think,

00:23:06.480 wow, he's sort of unusual that way. Yeah, there he is. He's, I met him a couple of times in,

00:23:11.640 in California. He's a good egg. And he's got about a 1.3 million followers, vastly larger than

00:23:18.940 Andrew Coyne. He has a vastly larger impact. His ideas have a vastly larger audience. And again,

00:23:26.860 you can disagree with him. I mean, he, he's a provocateur sometimes. I'm, it takes one to know

00:23:32.440 one. My point is a guy like Mike Cernovich would not have a position of influence and power 15 years

00:23:40.960 ago. He just wouldn't. He wouldn't have been a nepo baby, a nepotistic hire. He wouldn't have

00:23:45.860 been part of the insiders club. Whereas a guy, and I would, I'm just picking him as an example,

00:23:51.160 because I find him very interesting. You know, there's another guy, Stephen Miller, I follow.

00:23:58.440 I'm not talking about the deputy chief of staff of the Trump administration, just a pundit. And he's

00:24:02.940 just, he's got, he really boils things down and comes up with like a punchline. That's, yeah,

00:24:09.900 the Stephen Miller you had there was, was the Trump deputy chief of staff. I'm talking about

00:24:15.520 the pundit. Maybe he goes by Steve Miller. Anyways, he just has a way of summing things up with

00:24:21.340 like finding the humor in it. Yeah, I think that's, maybe that's not the guy.

00:24:28.200 I can't tell. Yeah, that is the guy. Yeah, that guy.

00:24:41.640 He's just funny. And he sums up, you scroll down a bit. Let's see if we can find one.

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00:25:17.780 to start. We appreciate your support. Yeah. Like, I mean, I'm just picking at random here. President

00:25:25.780 Trump will sign an executive order Wednesday designed to prevent people who were biologically

00:25:30.720 assigned male at birth. And he just, okay, it's not a particularly witty tweet, but he just says

00:25:36.840 in quotes, biologically assigned male. And he says, it's a very easy scientific process of simply

00:25:45.420 pointing and looking. Okay. That's, that's not his best work there. But anyway, my point is, who's this

00:25:50.180 guy? His, his handle is red steez. I don't even know what that means. He's just some guy. I don't know

00:25:56.640 where he lives. I have no idea really who he is, but just from the sheer talent, he's funny. He makes

00:26:03.100 observations. I think this is a hobby for him. I don't know if he does it for a living. Why am I

00:26:08.420 going on? I'm saying in 2025, you have this existential angst by a class of opinion arbiters,

00:26:19.060 tastemakers who no longer arbitrate opinion or make taste. No one sets their cover. Some boomers and

00:26:27.760 seniors who are still operating on a habit might do. But the decline of newspaper subscriptions

00:26:34.780 tells the whole story. I mean, how many people actually, how many people under the age of 40

00:26:40.500 actually get a paper newspaper anymore? Do you, do you, do you know anyone? I don't think I've got a

00:26:48.980 paper. I, I subscribed to the Epoch Times, but I did that more out of love than out of actually

00:26:55.220 way. I mean, and by the way, it's beautifully done, but other than my subscription to the Epoch

00:26:59.960 Times, which I do just out of solidarity, I don't subscribe to a paper newspaper. Why would I? It's

00:27:06.900 going to be 24 hours older than all the news I've found on Twitter. So the rage that the Andrew Coins

00:27:14.220 have, that they are no longer the tastemakers, the arbiters is palpable. And I love it. And it's the

00:27:20.740 democratization of the media. It's a form of citizen journalism. Granted, it's an easier form

00:27:28.580 of citizen journalism than actually going out there and reporting. We just got back a couple

00:27:32.400 of weeks ago, as you know, from Davos, Switzerland, and being on the scene reporting the news with a

00:27:37.600 video camera, I think it's a higher form of journalism. It's more work, I'll tell you that.

00:27:41.180 But people who are witty and have interesting insights can do great opinion journalism from

00:27:50.360 the bathtub. Hey, did you guys, when I was away, did you guys ever show any of the insect

00:27:57.420 energy bar video? Hey, I want to show you a video. I was in Davos with our team. And

00:28:06.320 every year we go to Davos, it's the World Economic Forum annual meeting in the Swiss Alps. It's this

00:28:13.220 town called Davos. It's sort of like Banff. It's small. There's really one, actually, it's about

00:28:19.400 the same size as Banff, I guess. And it's hard to get to. And every year, the World Economic Forum

00:28:25.700 buys up every single hotel room for a week and every single store or restaurant on the main street.

00:28:33.100 And they sort of put up almost like a movie set. They transform the main street. If it's a coffee

00:28:39.600 shop or a store, they actually gut it and put up, like, they turn it into the Facebook headquarters

00:28:47.040 or the Black Rock Pavilion. Like, they transform it. It's like Disneyland. It's a series of false fronts.

00:28:56.720 And they turn it into like a theme park. And then when they're done, all this cladding comes down

00:29:03.580 and those regular stores are back. They pay an enormous amount of money to those stores to give

00:29:08.020 up their spot for a week. I understand that there's a church. We did a report on it. I understand the

00:29:14.920 church rents itself out for a million dollars for that one week, which sounds crazy. But look at it from

00:29:22.740 the church's point of view. If you can get a million dollars by vacating for one week, and that's

00:29:28.360 enough to pay for the church all year, maybe that's a smart thing to do. Anyways, they transform

00:29:33.740 this main street. Very hard to get to. We go there every year. We don't get accreditation to go into

00:29:39.440 the inner sanctum. So we sort of hang out outside. And it's pretty cold. And there's other people outside

00:29:45.820 two. I want to show you an interaction I had. I didn't know this guy would be there. I just,

00:29:51.780 I see a guy handing out samples. There's a number of people handing out samples of things

00:29:55.580 all along the street. Normally they're just giving out free hot chocolate or hot tea to let people keep

00:30:01.220 warm. And it's sort of a gift from, for example, Qatar had a pavilion and they gave away a hot tea

00:30:09.140 and dates. Okay. And Facebook has a hot chocolate stand. Anyway, so this guy, I hadn't seen him before

00:30:16.560 and he was giving away energy bars. Now this is an 18 minute video. Obviously I'm not going to play

00:30:22.120 the whole thing, but let me play a little bit. And then I'm going to ask you, Olivia, to fast forward

00:30:26.340 to when the Sikh guy comes in to have, have a bite. Cause I thought that was a bit of a laugh here.

00:30:32.560 Watch with me for a minute. If I want you to have a split screen, I might sort of pipe in. Although I think

00:30:38.220 really every thought I had, I said to the fella, here's me in Davos talking to a guy handing out

00:30:44.220 energy bars. And I want to ask you, can you see the brand name of this energy bar? And if you're a

00:30:52.840 dad or anyone who's watched Disney movie with your kids, do you recognize the name? I'll tell you the

00:30:59.620 name right now. Pumbaa. Olivia, do you know what Pumbaa is?

00:31:03.300 She says that she's not familiar with Lion King. For anyone who's a, who has little kids,

00:31:11.360 you've probably watched the Lion King. It's such a great movie. Pumbaa is the wild boar who convinces

00:31:19.520 Simba, the lion, not to eat him. And he convinces the lion, don't eat meat, eat bugs instead.

00:31:29.300 It's a character in a Disney movie called Pumbaa. He's also notorious for farting, which is sort of

00:31:36.680 the kid's joke in the movie. But his name is Pumbaa. Let me show you the guy I met on the streets of

00:31:42.400 Davos who was handing out Pumbaa branded energy bars. Take a look.

00:31:48.940 Hi, I'm doing a promotion tour for a recently funded company that is doing these bars. It's Pumbaa food. And we are producing upcycled food. And well, this is our energy bar, which uses insect protein as a protein source.

00:32:06.940 Now, I want to be very fair to you because you've invited me to talk to you. When I hear you say that these are insect bars, I have a natural reflex to gag. I think there's a human evolutionary reaction to things that are, that historically have caused us sickness. That's why when we see maggots, we almost throw up. It's nature's way of saying, don't eat that. That's bad.

00:32:34.720 Why would you want people to eat insects? I just make your best case for what I think is an astonishing proposition.

00:32:45.880 Well, the thing is, I don't know if it is really an instinct or if it's just a learned behavior that we have an aversion against these insects or against spiders or anything.

00:32:55.540 Because in other parts of the world, especially in Africa and Asia, many people eat many kinds of insects. And so maybe we just need to get used to it.

00:33:05.780 Now, you said the word should. Maybe we should get used to it. Why wouldn't we eat beef and chicken and fish and vegetables? Why should we? Should is sort of a moral word. It is something we ought to do.

00:33:22.500 So, if we can eat chicken and beef and fish and vegetables, why are you saying we should eat insects?

00:33:30.080 Well, it's not in every occasion that we can have beef and cattle and pigs and chicken.

00:33:37.060 For example, if there are a few resources in water or the food distribution for hay and stuff that these animals that we mentioned before need, then it can be challenging.

00:33:49.360 And then it can be easier to just feed the worms or the insects with some things that are very easy to store.

00:33:57.040 Or if you want to take the example that we will go to other planets and we will conquer Mars, for example.

00:34:04.900 If you want to take pigs and cows with us to Mars, it will be difficult because of the space and because they need a lot of room.

00:34:14.200 And you can basically...

00:34:16.580 Yeah, we need to eat insects on Mars is not a particularly compelling argument for eating it on Earth right now.

00:34:25.620 But it is a terrifying thought.

00:34:27.620 I mean, what will people eat on Mars?

00:34:31.700 And it would terrify me if you had to eat bugs.

00:34:34.420 But while I was standing there talking to this guy, people came up for the free things.

00:34:39.960 That's the kind of place it is in Davos.

00:34:41.880 There's gift bags and free stuff and it was cold out.

00:34:44.300 So, anyway, one fellow came up and I tell you, well, you can see for yourself that the very friendly insect bar dealer, he would say it's made with insect protein.

00:34:57.920 But he wouldn't really emphasize it.

00:34:59.980 I'll give him credit.

00:35:00.760 He did say it.

00:35:01.900 But nowhere on the bar itself does it say insect protein.

00:35:06.460 And these people were just thinking, give me a freebie.

00:35:09.460 They weren't listening, really.

00:35:11.800 They were just...

00:35:12.400 I mean, do you really listen carefully when you go for a sample at Costco and the lady starts saying, well, this is made for...

00:35:18.220 No, you just want the freebie.

00:35:20.100 Watch this guy.

00:35:21.140 There's a fellow with a turban.

00:35:23.020 And then there's some kids after him.

00:35:24.460 Let's start with this Sikh gentleman.

00:35:25.780 I want to show you his reaction.

00:35:28.120 It's an old brand from the mill that is used, that is a leftover from the milling process.

00:35:33.680 Would you like to try it?

00:35:34.300 Please come.

00:35:34.900 Sure.

00:35:35.120 It's a protein or an energy bar made with insect protein.

00:35:40.600 That's great.

00:35:41.440 Yeah.

00:35:41.820 Use the way to a web shop.

00:35:43.060 And I would say this is the right place to offer this because here when you walk so much, you get into the meetings, you have so much of muscle exercise, brain exercise.

00:35:52.820 At the time you're offering such an energy kind of a chocolate, it's a great gesture.

00:35:56.780 You will very quickly get rid of your muscle pain because it's a big energy resource.

00:36:01.700 That's nice.

00:36:02.440 That's nice.

00:36:02.800 One for my friend.

00:36:03.460 Can I ask you, sir?

00:36:04.780 Can I ask you if you would taste it on camera and tell me what you think?

00:36:11.720 Yeah, I can do that if you want.

00:36:15.060 Now, did you hear him say that there's insects in that?

00:36:18.240 I didn't hear that.

00:36:20.140 Okay.

00:36:20.440 That's what I said.

00:36:22.100 I joined late, actually.

00:36:23.840 I didn't know.

00:36:24.320 I said it's an energy bar with insect protein as a protein source.

00:36:28.060 Oh, is it?

00:36:29.060 Oh, is it?

00:36:30.220 Yeah.

00:36:31.840 How do you feel about that?

00:36:33.160 That's funny.

00:36:34.740 That's funny.

00:36:36.320 That's funny.

00:36:36.920 Would you try it?

00:36:38.820 I think I won't.

00:36:40.100 I think I won't.

00:36:41.220 I am skeptical as well.

00:36:44.040 Can I ask why you won't eat the bugs?

00:36:47.740 So, of course, I mean, if it is coming up with insects, that's not a thing which we really

00:36:51.980 expect that because this is something we are here for.

00:36:53.780 Didn't expect that, he says.

00:36:57.240 Anyways, he was backpedaling.

00:36:58.880 He was going to eat the bar.

00:37:00.260 Now, I should tell you that others came and there was kids who I later saw that I think

00:37:04.720 they were there from a kid's school or something and they didn't care.

00:37:08.720 Maybe there was a language barrier, but they ate the bugs.

00:37:15.620 And I don't understand it.

00:37:19.420 You know, there is enough food on earth to feed everybody.

00:37:23.360 The problem is with distribution and economic systems.

00:37:25.820 There's never been more calories produced in the history of man.

00:37:30.580 There's never been more agriculture.

00:37:33.580 Famines are a thing of the past.

00:37:35.620 They're almost unheard of now.

00:37:38.940 Never in the history of our planet have so many people eaten so much of good, healthy food.

00:37:46.780 As I said to the gentleman later, if you were truly starving, of course you would eat

00:37:52.540 anything that was not poisonous.

00:37:54.500 And if you look to many cultural foods, it's sort of poor food.

00:38:00.680 It's what you eat when you have very little money.

00:38:03.320 And so you eat sort of meats that you normally wouldn't and you cover up the flavor with spicy

00:38:07.760 sauces and whatever.

00:38:09.040 He was saying in poor parts of Africa, they eat lots of insects.

00:38:13.320 Well, yeah, because they're poor and they're starving.

00:38:16.840 You know, as GDP grows, people prefer chicken and beef.

00:38:20.420 And I found his arguments unconvincing.

00:38:26.240 Obviously, there's an ideology under it.

00:38:27.900 I asked him who was funding Pumbaa.

00:38:30.060 He claimed he didn't know.

00:38:32.340 He said that wasn't his side of the operation.

00:38:34.160 But I think there's a reason he's at the World Economic Forum, because there's an ideological

00:38:39.300 push.

00:38:40.340 He did.

00:38:41.140 Let me.

00:38:41.620 I won't make you watch the whole 18 minutes.

00:38:43.420 But one thing he did say was it has a lower footprint in the environment than cattle or poultry or

00:38:53.560 whatever.

00:38:54.800 So it really is the two classes, the private jet class, the, you know, the Michelin reviewed

00:39:02.800 restaurants, and then the little people who have to eat the bugs, as Klaus Schwab would

00:39:08.240 say.

00:39:08.480 Hey, speaking of Klaus Schwab, you know, he's the head of the World Economic Forum, and thank

00:39:13.720 you for letting me show you that video.

00:39:15.280 We had some other fun videos, too.

00:39:16.840 Hey, did you know what?

00:39:17.780 I just want to show one more video.

00:39:19.420 Everyone has seen the Larry Fink video, I'm pretty sure.

00:39:24.360 Did you play the Paul Ryan video earlier?

00:39:29.700 I want to show one more video.

00:39:31.020 And the reason I'm choosing this one is it's short.

00:39:33.180 It's about three minutes.

00:39:33.980 And I just want to show it to you, because I don't think I've done the live stream since

00:39:37.340 I'm back from Davos.

00:39:38.480 But it's a George Soros kind of place.

00:39:42.360 It's its favorite place.

00:39:43.300 And Alex Soros, the son of George, has taken his father's place.

00:39:48.860 And the two leading contenders for the liberal leadership, Mark Carney and Chrystia Freeland,

00:39:53.920 are both, they were directors of the World Economic Forum.

00:39:59.500 So here you have Klaus Schwab boasting about penetrating the cabinets.

00:40:04.740 I don't know if you ever saw that clip of Klaus Schwab literally boasting of penetrating

00:40:09.300 the cabinets in Canada.

00:40:10.840 And people said, oh, no, no, that's just bragged out show.

00:40:15.220 That's a conspiracy theory.

00:40:16.740 Yeah, no, here we go.

00:40:18.400 The next one of the, one of the next, both of the top contenders for the next leader of

00:40:25.200 the Liberal Party are World Economic Forum directors.

00:40:28.220 But tell me it's a conspiracy theory.

00:40:30.980 Anyways, it's a left-wing place.

00:40:34.240 I'll give Klaus Schwab this, though.

00:40:35.940 He has invited Argentina's libertarian president, Javier Millet, twice.

00:40:41.920 That's bold.

00:40:42.920 I'll give him credit for that.

00:40:43.880 And Donald Trump actually made an appearance by video.

00:40:47.980 And he talked about freedom in America first.

00:40:51.420 But you generally don't see, and Trump just appeared by video.

00:40:54.340 There's no way he was going to fly from Mar-a-Lago all the way up to Davos and back.

00:40:59.100 That would be like 10 hours or 8 hours each way to give a speech to a bunch of communists.

00:41:05.460 But when you're on the streets, you really see Democrats and globalists and schemers and scammers.

00:41:15.620 So it's always surprising when you see a Republican.

00:41:19.620 I found it surprising, at least.

00:41:21.820 And so I spotted Paul Ryan.

00:41:25.200 For those of you who don't know, he was the vice presidential candidate for the Republican ticket

00:41:30.520 about 15 years ago, whatever.

00:41:31.980 He lost.

00:41:32.680 He became the Speaker of the Congress.

00:41:36.740 And he generally was hostile to Trump's agenda in Trump's first term.

00:41:41.860 So Paul Ryan is no longer in Congress.

00:41:44.260 But he's still at Davos.

00:41:46.240 And I didn't want to be mean to him.

00:41:48.260 I didn't want to pick a fight.

00:41:49.120 I thought I was friendly.

00:41:50.300 I said, hey.

00:41:51.100 Because remember, I was there the day after the inauguration.

00:41:54.720 I was in Washington on the Monday.

00:41:56.460 And then I got to Davos, I think, Wednesday morning by the time I got there.

00:42:00.600 So it's all anyone was talking about, Donald Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

00:42:04.880 And here I bump into Paul Ryan, who tried to become vice president, failed, was Speaker

00:42:11.720 of the House, but sort of opposed Trump.

00:42:14.540 So I wanted to know, do you have any words for Trump?

00:42:18.020 Do you have any congrats?

00:42:19.360 Do you have any advice?

00:42:20.400 Like, my questions, you tell me if my questions were obnoxious.

00:42:24.700 I don't think so.

00:42:26.100 I mean, he was in a public place.

00:42:29.300 I was asking, he's a public person.

00:42:30.780 I was asking him public questions in the public interest.

00:42:34.220 And they weren't even tough.

00:42:36.960 But look at his reaction.

00:42:38.160 I want to play the whole thing.

00:42:38.960 Take a look.

00:42:39.320 Here's me and Paul Ryan at Davos about two weeks ago.

00:42:43.680 Mr. Ryan, can I ask you for your thoughts on Donald?

00:42:46.960 Give me a word on Donald Trump.

00:42:48.300 I'm good.

00:42:48.440 Are you optimistic that he'll be a good president?

00:42:52.940 I'm good.

00:42:54.520 I mean, I know you're good.

00:42:56.380 I don't like doing walk and talk interviews.

00:42:57.500 It's just not my style.

00:42:58.280 Well, just give me a word.

00:42:59.280 It sounds like you're resentful of the president.

00:43:01.400 It sounds like you're trying to put words in my mouth.

00:43:02.860 Well, then put your own words in your mouth.

00:43:05.260 And you're good at what you do.

00:43:06.740 Well, I'm not because I'm not eliciting a good answer from you.

00:43:11.600 Because I'm not voting for that.

00:43:13.000 Well, why wouldn't you at least commend the president for his victory?

00:43:18.440 Yeah, I need you to send me the QR code so I can get in.

00:43:22.160 Yeah.

00:43:23.660 Yeah, just touch me with the QR code.

00:43:25.980 Yeah.

00:43:28.300 Well, I didn't check that email.

00:43:30.800 Let me check that one.

00:43:31.700 All right.

00:43:32.760 I'll call you back.

00:43:33.260 Don't you seem a little stingy.

00:43:35.740 All the world leaders are at least congratulating him.

00:43:39.180 You refuse to congratulate the president.

00:43:41.200 That seems...

00:43:41.800 No, I refuse to talk to you because you're being obnoxious.

00:43:43.860 I'm not being obnoxious.

00:43:44.680 I'm asking you a very simple, easy question.

00:43:46.460 Here's what I want you to do.

00:43:47.060 Go on Bloomberg yesterday and look at my TV interview and use theirs.

00:43:50.260 I think you're jealous.

00:43:55.220 I think you had your shot and you failed and you're sort of grudging towards Trump who won.

00:44:02.480 Is that wrong?

00:44:04.240 Hang on a second.

00:44:05.360 Yeah, there's...

00:44:06.620 Right.

00:44:07.120 No.

00:44:08.620 Yeah, you got to send me the QR code.

00:44:11.920 Right.

00:44:12.460 Yeah, no, that's what I need just to get in.

00:44:14.960 All right.

00:44:15.440 Let me check that email.

00:44:18.680 Okay.

00:44:22.260 Are you still working out?

00:44:25.600 I'm probably not...

00:44:26.460 I'm just not going to entertain your obnox...

00:44:28.260 You're being obnoxious.

00:44:28.780 I mean, you're calling me obnoxious.

00:44:30.260 Actually, I think you're being obnoxious.

00:44:31.580 You're refusing to say even a grudging congratulations to the new president.

00:44:35.860 No, I'm just not going to talk to you.

00:44:37.480 Why?

00:44:40.580 Hang on a second, all right?

00:44:41.680 I think you're a sore loser.

00:44:45.440 What are you even doing at a left-wing place like the World Economic Forum?

00:44:52.080 It's not very Republican.

00:44:54.640 Who are you meeting with?

00:44:56.700 Or is that secret?

00:44:59.260 Right now, I'm trying to navigate my email, so...

00:45:03.440 But what are you doing here?

00:45:06.940 This is a George Soros kind of place.

00:45:09.480 Is that your crew now?

00:45:11.060 Is that who you hang with?

00:45:15.440 Yeah, I don't get it.

00:45:17.840 I mean, I did poke him, are you a sore loser?

00:45:21.320 When he wasn't answering, posing that as a possible reason for him being so reticent.

00:45:31.600 Do you have a word for Trump?

00:45:34.020 Do you have advice?

00:45:34.580 I forget the...

00:45:35.300 Oh, you saw the exact questions I asked.

00:45:36.920 I think Paul Ryan's a loser.

00:45:39.920 I mean, he is literally a loser.

00:45:42.160 He ran for vice president and lost.

00:45:45.860 Yeah, Davos, sort of a weird place, but I like going.

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00:47:04.820 I suppose I should talk about the two WEF directors who are now running for the leadership.

00:47:10.980 And I think Mark Carney's going to win.

00:47:12.580 It's sort of obvious.

00:47:14.000 And by the way, if I was a liberal, I would want him to win.

00:47:15.960 I wouldn't want Chrystia Freeland.

00:47:17.220 Chrystia Freeland was inseparable from Justin Trudeau for nine years,

00:47:21.920 until they had their falling out in the last 10 minutes of Trudeau's regime.

00:47:25.780 So every single screw-up that he made is on her.

00:47:29.220 Every single atrocious policy, from carbon taxes to mass immigration.

00:47:33.900 There's no way she can distance herself from nine and a half years of absolute,

00:47:38.680 servile, you know, seal, train seal clapping.

00:47:43.000 You just can't.

00:47:43.960 Not just train seal clapping.

00:47:45.140 That would be the backbench.

00:47:46.020 Chrystia Freeland was, in fact, in some ways, I'd say the de facto prime minister.

00:47:50.080 Justin Trudeau is notoriously lazy.

00:47:52.240 He doesn't actually read anything.

00:47:53.780 He just does the fun stuff.

00:47:55.640 And the work actually fell to Chrystia Freeland.

00:47:59.240 But she lacks his social graces and his personality.

00:48:03.680 I find him distasteful.

00:48:05.860 But he can be charming when he turns it on.

00:48:09.540 Chrystia Freeland is off-putting and weird.

00:48:12.660 And I think eminently dislikable.

00:48:17.560 Mark Carney looks good.

00:48:20.680 Looks the part.

00:48:23.040 He's a fairly smooth talker.

00:48:24.740 He's not a really good retail political guy.

00:48:26.640 He doesn't have those instincts.

00:48:27.760 You can't just flip a switch and be a good politician.

00:48:30.100 It really is a trade in itself that requires a lot of practice.

00:48:33.720 And he hasn't had it.

00:48:34.760 But he really doesn't need it.

00:48:36.580 He's running a bubble campaign where he issues a few statements and then hides, which is appropriate.

00:48:43.200 Because it's whoever manages to sign up the most voters online.

00:48:47.480 It's rife.

00:48:48.660 It's open for manipulation and hijacking from both the Chinese Communist Party and Iran, both of whom I think would favor Mark Carney.

00:48:58.280 But there's no doubt about it.

00:49:00.200 Mark Carney has been a liberal advisor for many years.

00:49:03.520 And he's a pro-carbon tax guy.

00:49:10.100 He's a pro-World Economic Forum guy.

00:49:11.820 And he thought he would weigh in on wokeness.

00:49:14.760 We've got a video clip of him talking about DEI and wokeness.

00:49:19.880 And I suppose it would be too much to hope for a liberal candidate to be against woke.

00:49:26.740 But now here's Mark Carney doubling down on being woke.

00:49:30.940 Take a listen.

00:49:31.340 There's a fever gripping America.

00:49:35.340 And while it rages, Canadians will remain resolute and true to our values.

00:49:41.780 While America engages in a war on woke, Canadians will continue to value inclusiveness.

00:49:50.080 What does inclusiveness mean?

00:49:53.040 If it means letting people join a project or a team regardless of race, then I'm inclusive.

00:50:00.100 I mean, we don't keep statistics of this race or that religion of Rebel News.

00:50:05.620 But if I'm forced to think of it and put people in the boxes, we're inclusive.

00:50:10.440 But that's not woke.

00:50:11.780 That's people who happen to look a certain way having merit.

00:50:14.860 What DEI is and ESG that Mark Carney has spent a lifetime promoting is not inclusiveness.

00:50:22.920 It's affirmative action.

00:50:25.020 It's lowering standards on core merit-based factors to pump up.

00:50:33.180 Do we have enough black lesbians in the L.A. fire department?

00:50:36.960 Do we have enough, you know, quota candidates flying Black Hawk helicopters near the D.C. Washington airport at night?

00:50:47.380 But it's not about inclusiveness.

00:50:51.480 It's about promoting values other than merit, which is sort of weird coming from a white male, stale, pale white male in his 60s.

00:51:03.060 He should step aside for a woman if he really is inclusive.

00:51:07.280 Isn't that funny?

00:51:07.960 I mean, I think the premiers, other than Daniel Smith, were absolute failures over the last month.

00:51:21.000 And I think Doug Ford was in some ways the worst.

00:51:24.660 He was the most opportunistic.

00:51:26.180 He thought he would call a snap election to run against Trump.

00:51:30.320 And that sort of fizzled within a couple of days.

00:51:31.980 We've got a clip of him pushing back on Donald Trump's demand that Canada ramp up border security.

00:51:41.240 I want to show that clip of Doug Ford.

00:51:43.280 I just think Doug Ford is hollow.

00:51:45.780 And I just really wish that Rob Ford were still with us.

00:51:49.160 Here's Doug Ford the other day.

00:51:50.360 Take a look.

00:51:51.280 So we're going to tighten that border up until it squeaks.

00:51:55.480 But it works on both sides of the border, by the way.

00:51:57.880 And I've mentioned this in a couple of newscasts down in the U.S.

00:52:00.680 Yeah, I've been on the PM for a long time, both tightening up the border.

00:52:05.820 We are tightening up the border.

00:52:07.660 When President Trump says he needs a border tightened up, we acted immediately.

00:52:12.420 And we're going to continue to act immediately.

00:52:15.480 But let's keep in mind, which I've said to the U.S., and I'll say that.

00:52:19.080 I've said it to the elected officials.

00:52:20.880 It works two ways.

00:52:22.000 We've seen over 25,000 kilos of cocaine, heroin, opioids come across from our southern border into Canada.

00:52:30.680 We've seen illegal guns at 95% of these heinous crimes that are committed, not just in Ottawa, in Toronto, the outlying region.

00:52:38.560 They're all coming from the U.S.

00:52:40.760 So in saying all that, we have to work together.

00:52:44.720 And we have been working together.

00:52:46.880 I met with the DEA.

00:52:48.740 We've met with the Border Patrol.

00:52:51.620 We met with our OPP and RCMP, and everyone's pitching in.

00:52:56.780 That's the way it should work.

00:52:58.000 It's not one-sided here.

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00:53:32.340 Well, isn't he making the case for more border patrols?

00:53:36.140 And, yeah, there are a lot of bad things that come up from the U.S. into Canada.

00:53:40.660 Isn't that on us as much as it's on them?

00:53:44.080 I mean, we could take a Trump-like approach and say we demand America seal their northern border, but we've put nothing into our own border.

00:53:51.720 I mean, worse than nothing, we at Roxham Road sent the RCMP there to act as concierges.

00:54:00.620 The Americans didn't mind that because, of course, most of the people leaving America through Roxham Road into Canada were people who were about to be deported

00:54:10.520 or people who were convicted of crimes, and they were more scared of Donald Trump than they were of Justin Trudeau.

00:54:17.480 So, I mean, people think the idea that people will self-deport is absurd and ridiculous.

00:54:23.320 It sort of is, but it happened for almost 10 years under Trudeau

00:54:27.260 because Trudeau positively welcomed illegal crossings into Canada.

00:54:33.280 Well, who do you think wanted to cross illegally?

00:54:36.140 People who had a criminal record, people who were on the run from police, people who were going to be deported, lost a battle.

00:54:46.580 But I agree with Doug Ford in that we need a stronger border.

00:54:50.620 But he's done next to nothing on that.

00:54:55.560 So I think he's sucking and blowing at the same time.

00:54:57.780 But nothing beats the Premier of Quebec, Francois Legault, who, like the others, was calling for a Team Canada approach,

00:55:07.180 namely shut off that Alberta oil to punish Donald Trump.

00:55:13.880 Of course, if Canada had other export markets for our oil, we wouldn't be so reliant on America.

00:55:20.900 I would rather sell our ethical oil to America than to China, of course.

00:55:26.460 But who was it who blocked the pipelines from Alberta to blue water oceans?

00:55:32.400 It was the Liberals of Canada, and it was provincial premiers and provincial governments, including in BC.

00:55:38.760 And Francois Legault was one of the worst.

00:55:40.180 He blocked something called the Energy East Pipeline,

00:55:42.660 which would have taken about a million barrels of oil a day from Alberta to New Brunswick,

00:55:49.500 where Canada's largest refinery is, currently being filled with American and OPEC oil.

00:55:55.220 So all this Team Canada, come on, Daniel Smith, stop trying to defend your oil patch

00:55:59.260 and be the sacrifice industry for the rest of us as we fight with Donald Trump.

00:56:03.460 As soon as the tariffs are dropped, listen to Francois Legault.

00:56:08.720 So, yeah, that whole Team Canada thing, that's over now.

00:56:12.900 We have gone back to hating Alberta oil.

00:56:15.180 Take a listen.

00:56:16.780 If, during your discussions today, the issues of pipelines came up

00:56:20.640 and whether Quebec would now support either an Energy East or some other kind of pipeline

00:56:25.480 that would take Alberta oil out to markets other than the U.S.

00:56:30.080 Of course, right now, there's no social acceptability for this kind of project right now in Quebec.

00:56:44.100 But, of course, the situation, the economy, and what Mr. Trump is doing

00:56:54.860 may change the situation in the future.

00:56:57.980 So if there's a social acceptability, we will be open to these kind of projects.

00:57:06.180 But right now, there's no social acceptability.

00:57:10.560 So, no.

00:57:12.000 Okay.

00:57:14.220 So the phrase I think he is using, social acceptability,

00:57:19.820 has been used in English Canada, sometimes called social license,

00:57:23.500 which is, yeah, you might actually have the license, the actual permit.

00:57:28.720 You might have checked all the boxes, done your environmental test,

00:57:32.160 done your impact assessments, done your indigenous relations.

00:57:37.480 You might have done all that, but you don't have social license.

00:57:40.960 Well, what's a social license?

00:57:42.520 It's exactly, it's whatever an objector or a vetoer has to say.

00:57:47.600 Well, you haven't convinced me, and I can get 100 left-wing Antifa rioters on the street

00:57:54.760 to say, even though polls have always shown support for Canadian oil and pipelines,

00:58:00.380 we're going to block it.

00:58:01.960 And by the way, polls aren't the determiner.

00:58:04.560 You don't have to win an opinion poll to open up a restaurant.

00:58:10.240 You just have to get your permit.

00:58:13.220 Who gives people a social license?

00:58:16.420 How do you get a license for a social license?

00:58:18.880 Well, that's the joke of it.

00:58:20.320 It's whatever the politicians or the media says.

00:58:24.860 And so Francois Legault immediately is basically saying,

00:58:27.640 well, Antifa and environmental extremist groups say no, so it's no.

00:58:32.300 So, you know, one of the things, Donald Trump is a master of memes,

00:58:40.220 and a meme is basically an idea, isn't it?

00:58:43.840 And if you remember a movie about 20 years ago called Inception with Leo DiCaprio,

00:58:48.760 that movie sort of blew my mind when I watched it.

00:58:50.900 I thought it was very clever, and believe me, I have to pay attention to that movie.

00:58:55.480 It was about ideas and placing ideas in people's minds in a way that they think it's their own idea.

00:59:03.820 How do you do that?

00:59:05.160 And it was sort of a somewhat mystical movie called Inception.

00:59:11.120 How do you place an idea in someone's mind?

00:59:13.380 Because really, in some ways, that's the most powerful weapon of all.

00:59:17.900 Elon Musk regularly says that woke is a mind virus.

00:59:22.800 He says a computer can have a virus, and a mind can have a virus.

00:59:27.320 And he talks about the mind virus of wokeism.

00:59:30.220 I think he's exactly right.

00:59:32.180 But you can have a positive idea.

00:59:34.740 You can have a negative idea.

00:59:36.000 You can just have an idea at all.

00:59:37.960 Donald Trump is a master of Inception, of planting ideas.

00:59:43.440 Here's a guy who's talking about nationalizing Greenland,

00:59:47.080 reconquering the Panama Canal,

00:59:48.900 taking Greenland away from Denmark.

00:59:52.660 And he has repeatedly,

00:59:54.320 even though it's goofy banter on Instagram and Twitter,

00:59:59.000 talked about making Canada the 51st state.

01:00:01.260 Now, I say to my American friends,

01:00:02.960 do you really want a block of Democrat voters

01:00:07.580 the size of California in your electoral college?

01:00:10.260 Do you really want to deal with the challenges of,

01:00:13.280 say, French bilingualism?

01:00:15.240 Do you really want our many problems?

01:00:17.480 Or do you just want oil and minerals?

01:00:21.100 Because you already have access to those without any of the costs.

01:00:26.280 Trump is planting the idea of the 51st state

01:00:29.600 because I think he has detected

01:00:33.100 that Canada is much weaker than it was 10 years ago.

01:00:37.340 The Canadian patriotism has been tamped out and stamped out.

01:00:42.300 And despite the last month of Team Canada,

01:00:46.220 there is no Team Canada.

01:00:47.680 And how fast did Francois Legault get back to,

01:00:50.980 yeah, no, Alberta, you don't have social acceptability?

01:00:54.320 Donald Trump has made every single Canadian pundit

01:00:59.780 and politician talk about the 51st state idea.

01:01:03.240 Now, that's not to say it's going to happen.

01:01:07.200 And it's not even to say that it should happen.

01:01:09.800 But for the first time in ever,

01:01:13.180 first time certainly in 150 years,

01:01:16.080 I mean, one of the reasons for the CP Rail,

01:01:19.420 Canadian Pacific Rail,

01:01:20.280 was to stop B.C. and the prairies from joining America.

01:01:23.560 Remember, you had California, the gold rush.

01:01:26.440 You had Alaska being purchased from the Russians in the 1860s.

01:01:30.540 You had the ferment of the U.S. Civil War.

01:01:33.080 There was a real chance that America would annex

01:01:37.620 or even invade Canada.

01:01:40.040 It was only 50 years, sorry, not even 50, pardon me.

01:01:44.760 It was only 20 years after the Civil War.

01:01:50.100 In some cases, what am I saying?

01:01:51.600 In some cases, just a few years.

01:01:53.160 1867 was the birth of Canada.

01:01:57.020 And the CP Rail was about 20 years later.

01:02:01.280 Not since then has the idea of Canada becoming an American territory

01:02:06.180 being discussed as much as it has in the last month.

01:02:09.520 And some people are adamant against it

01:02:11.220 and some people are passionate against it

01:02:12.820 and some people are emotionally against it

01:02:14.700 and some people are historically against it

01:02:16.180 and some people are culturally against it

01:02:17.900 and some people are out of loyalty to the king

01:02:20.100 or loyalty to their community or against it.

01:02:23.240 Okay.

01:02:23.520 But how many people have thought about it for the first time

01:02:26.860 and thought, you know, I'd like to be part of a country

01:02:29.840 where my dollar is worth something.

01:02:32.520 I'd like to be part of a country that is respected on the world stage

01:02:35.660 and has a military second to none.

01:02:37.260 I'd like to be part of a country that doesn't hate itself

01:02:40.720 the way Trudeau has taught us to hate our own country as genociders.

01:02:45.420 I showed you that poll on my Ezra LeVant show.

01:02:48.360 I think it was Ipsos.

01:02:49.180 That the number of young men who support joining the states

01:02:54.480 is in the 40% range.

01:02:56.500 40% range.

01:02:58.140 And that's without even a campaign.

01:03:00.160 That's just inception.

01:03:01.940 That's just Trump planting an idea.

01:03:05.360 Now the art of the deal, if you read the book,

01:03:09.040 Trump calls for annexation of Canada

01:03:11.660 and settles for a tweak in the free training agreement.

01:03:16.280 Trump calls for 25% tariffs on Canada

01:03:19.280 and settles for a stronger border.

01:03:21.540 That's part of his negotiating strategy.

01:03:24.400 He didn't get to be a billionaire in New York real estate

01:03:27.080 without being a savvy negotiator.

01:03:29.140 So maybe his talk about the 51st state is just that.

01:03:33.100 But be careful.

01:03:35.040 Donald Trump has forced Canadians to say,

01:03:37.320 well, what exactly is the value proposition I get from Canada?

01:03:41.580 And that's an unsentimental way to talk about it.

01:03:43.620 But that's precisely how Trudeau has taught us to talk about it.

01:03:46.620 We're a post-national state.

01:03:49.860 We have no core values.

01:03:52.700 That's what Trudeau told the New York Times in 2015.

01:03:56.520 So if all we are is a hotel,

01:03:59.220 and if all we are is a,

01:04:01.480 if our passport is so worthless

01:04:03.060 that we give it to millions of people

01:04:04.620 who don't care about us, don't know us, don't love us,

01:04:07.580 in fact, many of whom hate us,

01:04:08.840 if our passport is worth nothing,

01:04:10.860 if it's just a passport of convenience,

01:04:13.440 well, which is more convenient,

01:04:14.760 being an American or a Canadian?

01:04:18.220 And it's, you know, you would still live in your house.

01:04:22.160 You would still be on your street.

01:04:24.020 You would still have your routines.

01:04:26.560 It's just the political overlay of your life

01:04:28.820 would be American instead of Canadian.

01:04:30.880 You wouldn't have to move to America.

01:04:32.280 That's the point.

01:04:32.940 America would move to you.

01:04:34.740 And it's terrifying because

01:04:38.500 when you start to analyze it

01:04:41.000 without the emotions or the loyalties

01:04:42.580 or the sentimentality,

01:04:44.740 without nostalgia,

01:04:45.780 and just say, well, which is better for me now?

01:04:47.480 Would I rather have the province of Ontario?

01:04:50.300 I suppose, I don't know if it would be one state

01:04:52.260 or a dozen states.

01:04:53.940 If you were to say,

01:04:55.360 would you rather have Donald Trump

01:04:58.400 as your international spokesman

01:05:01.000 or Trudeau as your international spokesman?

01:05:02.740 Would you rather have Elon Musk

01:05:04.960 and his doge cost cutters

01:05:08.400 or would you rather have

01:05:10.000 the corruption and waste of Canada's system?

01:05:14.100 Would you rather have the American dollar

01:05:16.120 with its strength

01:05:17.120 or the Canadian peso?

01:05:19.400 If you took away emotional

01:05:21.180 and nostalgia and loyalty issues

01:05:23.780 and simply talked about the practical changes

01:05:26.860 that would come about

01:05:27.740 with being in American territory,

01:05:31.020 without the emotional loyalty

01:05:34.900 or historical loyalty,

01:05:37.420 Trump makes a compelling case.

01:05:39.620 You'd be richer.

01:05:41.100 You'd be stronger militarily.

01:05:43.520 You'd be diplomatically more powerful.

01:05:46.000 You'd be connected

01:05:46.880 to the world's most energetic economy.

01:05:50.400 As he says,

01:05:51.240 you don't want tariffs, join America.

01:05:52.720 All of those things are true.

01:05:54.060 And if we're going to rely on Team Canada,

01:05:58.940 being Francois Legault and Justin Trudeau

01:06:01.040 and other people

01:06:01.960 who actually don't care much about Canada,

01:06:04.620 I mean, we even have a full-time

01:06:05.860 separatist party in parliament,

01:06:08.080 if those are the people saying,

01:06:10.100 no, no, reject Trump,

01:06:11.700 we have something so much better,

01:06:13.620 we have a country

01:06:15.300 where we tear down our statues,

01:06:16.780 we rename Ryerson University

01:06:18.860 to Toronto Metropolitan University,

01:06:20.860 we rename Young Dundas Square,

01:06:23.440 Sankofa Square,

01:06:24.720 we tear down,

01:06:25.860 tear off Sir John A.

01:06:27.420 from our $10 bill.

01:06:28.420 No, no, no, no.

01:06:29.320 But stay for nostalgic reasons.

01:06:31.380 We're destroying the past.

01:06:33.200 We're erasing the past.

01:06:35.100 We are recasting

01:06:36.540 and revising the past

01:06:37.620 as one of genocide.

01:06:38.660 But no, guys,

01:06:39.820 for historic reasons

01:06:41.360 and emotional reasons,

01:06:42.180 you've got to stay Canadian

01:06:43.320 instead of having

01:06:44.240 the world's most powerful currency,

01:06:45.980 the world's most powerful army,

01:06:47.620 and the world's most powerful economy.

01:06:49.500 Donald Trump has opened up

01:06:52.940 some ideas, hasn't he?

01:06:54.720 He has, indeed,

01:06:56.460 engaged in Inception.

01:06:59.400 I see a super chat from Ableist,

01:07:03.100 or it's a rumble rant,

01:07:04.040 I can't tell.

01:07:05.960 Warhorse got caught retconning Henry

01:07:08.280 to be bi

01:07:09.340 and shoehorning

01:07:09.980 a historically inaccurate

01:07:11.200 black Muslim man

01:07:12.040 into KCD2

01:07:13.280 to cater to regressives

01:07:14.400 and ESG,

01:07:16.920 conning customers

01:07:17.760 under embraces orders.

01:07:19.740 I'm sorry,

01:07:20.360 I don't understand

01:07:21.100 a word you just said,

01:07:23.140 but thank you

01:07:24.020 for your support.

01:07:25.580 NanoWake chips in 10 bucks

01:07:27.280 and says,

01:07:28.180 social acceptability,

01:07:29.340 hum.

01:07:30.040 Well, there's absolutely

01:07:30.780 no social acceptability

01:07:31.880 for Alberta

01:07:32.400 to provide you

01:07:33.040 equalization payments

01:07:33.980 either,

01:07:34.980 since it's against your morals,

01:07:36.300 so we're glad to stop.

01:07:37.260 Well, that's exactly the thing.

01:07:39.100 Does social license

01:07:40.020 go both ways?

01:07:41.360 The whole idea

01:07:42.380 of social license

01:07:43.180 is a wiggle room,

01:07:44.280 it's a mulligan,

01:07:44.980 it's a cheat code

01:07:46.120 for when you don't

01:07:47.760 want to follow the rules,

01:07:48.740 just say,

01:07:49.260 social license made me do it.

01:07:51.120 Sure, you had the permits

01:07:52.220 for the Northern Gateway Pipeline,

01:07:54.340 sure, you had the permits

01:07:55.240 for the Energy East Pipeline,

01:07:56.580 but it's not socially acceptable,

01:07:58.200 so we're going to stop it.

01:08:00.460 Sure, Quebec,

01:08:01.320 you've got the law

01:08:02.760 on your side

01:08:03.440 when it comes to equalization,

01:08:04.520 but you don't have

01:08:05.100 social license from Alberta

01:08:07.100 to take billions of dollars.

01:08:09.120 You're exactly right,

01:08:10.000 it's a loosey-goosiness.

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01:09:13.900 Well, my friends,

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01:09:49.960 President Trump

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