Rebel News Podcast - Rebel Roundup： What happens in Berlin and Ottawa... Ft. Sheila Gunn Reid and Tamara Ugolini

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you, in which we look back at

00:00:04.800 some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favorite Rebels. I'm your host, David Menzies.

00:00:10.320 Well, the Emergencies Act inquiry continues to soldier along in Ottawa, and Rebel News Chief

00:00:16.120 Reporter Sheila Gunn-Reed will offer her analysis of the week that was. And Tamara Ugolini recently

00:00:24.120 attended the World Health Summit in Berlin, Germany. Well, sort of. You see, unlike the 0.99

00:00:30.580 trained seals in the mainstream media, Tamara tends to ask prickly questions about the COVID-19 1.00

00:00:36.840 vaccine and COVID-19-inspired lockdowns. And by doing so, well, that results in Tamara being 1.00

00:00:45.500 exiled from the conference. Unbelievable. Tamara will join me to share all the egregious details. 0.96

00:00:51.840 And letters, we get your letters, we get your letters every minute of every day. And you

00:00:56.680 have plenty to say about our latest Jumbotron-equipped truck that urged Ontario Premier Doug Ford to

00:01:04.800 come out of hiding and testify at the Emergencies Act inquiry. Will he do so? Or is this yet another

00:01:13.120 matter of fat chance? In any event, those are your Rebels. Now let's round them up. 0.75

00:01:21.840 You know, when it's all wrapped up and the commissioner, if he finds that there was no justification for the federal government to invoke the Emergencies Act, should there be consequences for the federal government, including your resignation?

00:01:40.680 But we knew from the very beginning that invoking the Emergencies Act is a big step. It had never

00:01:47.120 been done before. But given these unprecedented illegal protests, we needed to take action.

00:01:52.400 We took it in a way that was measured, that was responsible, that was time-limited. And we

00:01:57.680 knew full well that there needed to be a public inquiry. Canadians need that level of transparency

00:02:03.000 and accountability. And that's why we launched this inquiry. That's why I'm so happy that I offered from the beginning to be part of appearing at this commission. And we're going to make sure that Canadians see the situation we were facing and how the tools we used were appropriate.

00:02:20.000 But if it's found that there was no justification for it, again, what should the consequences be for that?

00:02:25.000 I think the important thing is for Canadians to understand the situation we were in and the choices we make. We didn't enter into using the Emergencies Act lightly. We used it with a sense of it was the necessary tool at the time.

00:02:42.000 We used it in a way that was measured and proportionate. And we're really pleased that the commission is going to be able to hear from all these witnesses. And that was why I offered to appear.

00:02:54.000 He didn't offer to appear. He was subpoenaed. And he didn't offer to have the inquiry. It's built into the invocation of the act. It's an accountability measure built into the act that if you invoke this thing, you're going to have to answer and produce reasons for it.

00:03:10.000 This is Tamara talking about what she felt as her prime minister is calling her a racist sexist. 0.98

00:03:18.000 Yeah.

00:03:19.000 I was becoming increasingly alarmed listening to my prime minister call me a racist and say that I shouldn't be tolerated.

00:03:36.000 I found his rhetoric to be incredibly divisive. And I'm a believer that if you're a leader of a country, you have to lead all of your people, even if you don't agree with them.

00:03:51.000 And I just saw so much coming across Canada every day. I heard stories. People, at least three people would tell me they were planning their suicides until we started the convoy or stories of people that we were too late.

00:04:08.000 I heard from families that were living in their vehicles because they'd lost their jobs. I heard from people that had lost their jobs and lost everything.

00:04:23.000 I have the tears of thousands of Canadians on my shoulder who every day told me that we were bringing them hope.

00:04:36.000 I saw little old ladies praying on their knees on the side of the road. And I saw little children holding signs saying thank you for giving me back my future.

00:04:45.000 The explanation is I have been absolutely harassed. I've been absolutely defamed character assassination by a certain group and they edit videos and they cut and splice and they take 10 seconds here and they blow it out of proportion.

00:05:04.000 And I've been dealing with this for years. And I will give you an opportunity. I'm going to show you some of the videos and I'll give you an opportunity.

00:05:13.000 Oh, absolutely. I can't wait. Comment on them. I've been waiting for years.

00:05:16.000 Well, folks, the Emergencies Act inquiry in Ottawa is well into its second week.

00:05:21.000 And wow, talk about eyebrow raising commentary from some of the people that have been chosen to testify.

00:05:29.000 And thankfully, we have someone on staff. That would be our chief reporter, Sheila Gunn-Reed, who's been watching just about every single second of that inquiry.

00:05:41.760 And she joins me now to give her her thoughts and opinions on what's been happening these last few days.

00:05:49.660 How are you doing there, Sheila Gunn-Reed?

00:05:51.940 Oh, David, I'm great. I think as we're recording this, we are almost done.

00:05:56.360 We're on day 16 of the Truckers Commission, as we're calling it.

00:06:00.400 And we've sort of cut through some of the senior police officers and senior police superintendents, both in OPS, so Ottawa Police Service and the OPP, the Ontario Police.

00:06:14.320 We've heard from them and we've heard from senior bureaucrats in the city.

00:06:19.780 And now we're moving into convoy organizer territory.

00:06:22.940 And as I'm watching this, you can, well, as I said, David, before I jumped, before we started recording, it's kind of a wonder they got to Ottawa at all, because there are a lot of different factions of truckers.

00:06:37.280 And I think they started off united, but as pressure came down on them and as they realized we need to have a media strategy because the media is starting to lie about us, they started to engage, I think, rightfully in some political hygiene.

00:06:54.600 And that sort of drove people into their respective camps.

00:06:59.020 And we're seeing that unfold live on TV every single day.

00:07:03.220 And Sheila, let me talk about one particular unsavory individual, in my opinion.

00:07:09.680 And it's simply this, does anyone give a rodent's rectum what Pat King has to say about anything, except maybe those in the media, those in government who want to discredit the freedom convoy?

00:07:28.880 Yeah, well, to answer your question, who cares what he has to say?

00:07:32.880 Definitely the CBC, because he's the kind of guy who's prone to saying wild things, outlandish things, often untrue things.

00:07:41.780 And the media takes that as the paintbrush to paint the hole.

00:07:47.880 And they've done that repeatedly.

00:07:49.800 And that's why the convoy organizers and Keith Wilson, the lawyer for the convoy, Tamara Leach, Tom Marazzo, they distance themselves from Pat King, who's from Alberta here.

00:08:01.560 And he's got quite a track record out here for a time.

00:08:06.080 Last year, he camped out in the legislature grounds until the province had enough of him.

00:08:18.400 You know, they started distancing themselves from him once he started saying that politicians are going to get shot.

00:08:25.140 However, they were happy to sort of hitch their wagon to Pat King because he had a large social media following.

00:08:33.680 And I think everybody learned a tough lesson because of that.

00:08:38.760 And you see this with other people, too.

00:08:40.760 There's another lady, Bridget Belton.

00:08:43.420 She was an early convoy organizer.

00:08:46.000 And right now you can see she's got she's to to this day posting anti Tamara Leach, anti Keith Wilson things on her TikTok.

00:08:56.480 We saw today also some you can see some discontent with Benjamin Dichter, who I think was sort of doing communications for the convoy.

00:09:09.700 It seems as though at some point Tamara Leach and Keith Wilson sort of cut him out of the communications as they were negotiating with the city to move some trucks and bring an end to the convoy.

00:09:22.040 He said, well, I didn't know that a deal was struck.

00:09:25.240 In fact, they were telling me no deal was struck.

00:09:27.020 But we do know through documents produced earlier in the commission that a deal was struck and there's a paper trail to prove it.

00:09:34.340 So I don't I don't know when they decided to cut him out, but it's pretty obvious that they did.

00:09:39.520 And I know that Keith Wilson yesterday or rather Wednesday in a press conference said Benjamin Dichter was in charge of the crypto that was coming into the convoy.

00:09:52.940 And there's been no accounting of the cryptocurrency that came into the convoy.

00:09:58.420 And he would like to see that because that's never happened.

00:10:02.140 And that's been a real concern back and forth between the convoy organizers now and Ben Dichter.

00:10:09.580 And it's odd from the outside looking in.

00:10:12.620 And I'm not even going to speculate, but.

00:10:16.400 A lot of people were charged with mischief, but Ben Dichter wasn't.

00:10:21.020 And I don't know what's the friction there, why he wasn't charged.

00:10:25.280 It seemed like he wanted to stay longer while everybody else was negotiating an end.

00:10:30.320 And those who were negotiating an end were the ones that got charged with mischief.

00:10:34.460 It's just all very odd.

00:10:35.720 There's a lot of questions back and forth.

00:10:37.900 No, and it is so fascinating, Sheila.

00:10:40.580 But, you know, my Christmas wish, so to speak, would be, you know, whether you're pro-freedom convoy or anti-freedom convoy,

00:10:47.780 getting back to Pat King, can we all stop referring to him as a convoy organizer?

00:10:53.800 I think Pat King saw himself as a kingpin, no pun intended, more so in his own mind than what the reality was.

00:11:02.900 And I want to go back to what you mentioned.

00:11:05.140 He was camped out at the Edmonton legislature going back to October 2021.

00:11:10.980 And I think this speaks a lot about the character of Pat King.

00:11:14.260 You were on the grounds as a reporter and you bumped into him and I think his mistress at the time.

00:11:20.800 And what happened, Sheila?

00:11:23.280 Oh, some Pat King people tried to usher me off the grounds of the legislature, of course.

00:11:30.480 I am not going anywhere.

00:11:32.700 Rachel Notley couldn't get rid of me. 0.98

00:11:36.100 You know, I'm not going to be bullied off the legislature.

00:11:38.500 And frankly, I don't even care.

00:11:39.960 I mean, whatever.

00:11:41.380 In the long run, I still do my journalism there.

00:11:47.100 And here's the thing, frankly.

00:11:49.440 And we see this through some of the questions from the government lawyers and the anti-convoy lawyers,

00:11:57.640 the lawyers for the Ottawa busybodies, as I'll put it.

00:12:00.180 You see this with James Bowder.

00:12:01.740 He's the early convoy organizer behind Canada Unity.

00:12:06.340 And he's the guy responsible for that bizarre, homemade lawyering MOU that called for basically,

00:12:14.160 I don't want to say an undemocratic overthrow of the government, but an undemocratic possibly subversion of the government,

00:12:20.800 wherein this, I guess, panel of citizens, I don't know who would even select them,

00:12:27.720 would meet with the Senate and over, could just go around the government.

00:12:32.080 And that's how we would be governed, I guess.

00:12:34.020 I don't know.

00:12:34.800 And the convoy organizers had to distance themselves from James Bowder and his organization, Canada Unity.

00:12:41.700 But he's on the stand today, and I mean, he's doing some homemade lawyering on the stand,

00:12:46.060 and he's getting a lot of things off his chest, as was with Pat King.

00:12:50.880 And I think it's because these guys have been gagged for almost a year through their bail conditions.

00:12:58.760 You have been charged with criminal offenses, and I understand that a condition of your bail is that you are not allowed to use social media.

00:13:08.840 Is that correct?

00:13:09.560 I'm not allowed to do anything.

00:13:12.360 I've had absolutely every right of a Canadian citizen stripped of me.

00:13:16.480 My freedom of speech, my freedom of protest, my freedom of everything.

00:13:21.340 Am I correct you can't use social media?

00:13:23.940 No.

00:13:25.100 You are absolutely correct.

00:13:26.640 Thank you.

00:13:27.160 So, now that they finally have a chance to talk, boy, are they letting her fly.

00:13:32.380 And it's, you know, it's becoming difficult and contentious for the lawyers to say,

00:13:36.080 okay, but this is the question I asked you.

00:13:37.480 I realize you want to talk about these things, but please just answer this one question.

00:13:42.020 But some of the questions, moreover to my point, and I sound, frankly, I sound like some of these guys on the stand because I'm not getting to my point.

00:13:48.520 My point is, from the government lawyers and from the anti-convoy lawyers, they're asking these guys about their personal opinions from anything from Alex Jones to 9-11 to QAnon.

00:14:00.200 I don't know.

00:14:01.180 Maybe aliens came.

00:14:02.400 Actually, if aliens came up, I would have noticed.

00:14:05.020 But I don't understand what the point of all of that is.

00:14:08.480 You're allowed to hold crazy thoughts.

00:14:10.580 You're allowed to have whatever's going on inside James Bowder's mind.

00:14:15.380 You're allowed to have Pat King's opinions in this country.

00:14:19.280 It is a free country.

00:14:20.440 You can even protest with those ideas in your brain.

00:14:24.520 That's not illegal.

00:14:25.920 Only when your ideas become violent actions is it illegal.

00:14:30.440 So you can hold whatever crazy views you want, whatever homemade lawyering ideas you want.

00:14:34.800 I don't care.

00:14:35.900 You can be Pat King and think you disproved the existence of COVID-19 in Alberta.

00:14:40.980 You can be that.

00:14:43.080 I don't care.

00:14:43.920 I fully support your right to hold those ideas while I disagree with them.

00:14:48.120 Holding crazy ideas does not give the federal government the right to invoke a counterterrorism law on you and seize your bank account.

00:14:55.880 And that, at the end of the day, is what this whole thing is about.

00:14:59.520 It's not about their ideas, although the government is trying to make it that way.

00:15:03.680 And Sheila, you are 100% right.

00:15:05.980 Let us not forget the ostensible policy reason for this inquiry.

00:15:10.920 And it's simply this.

00:15:12.100 Was the federal government justified to use that hammer, known as the Emergencies Act, in terms of dealing with the convoy?

00:15:20.560 So what's in somebody's head?

00:15:22.860 You know, what kind of movies they like?

00:15:25.400 You know, what kind of vegetables they eat?

00:15:27.440 This is all nonsense.

00:15:29.600 This is all irrelevant to the question at hand.

00:15:33.100 But, you know, Sheila, we would be remiss if we didn't talk about this ongoing, perverse, and even downright bizarre sidebar of Doug Ford seemingly terrified to take the stand.

00:15:47.900 He's being subpoenaed.

00:15:49.020 He's fighting the subpoena in court.

00:15:52.280 You know, I'm so intrigued by this, as are so many others.

00:15:56.860 Sheila, what's going on?

00:15:59.780 And if he does lose this court case that he's involved with, is he going to take the stand?

00:16:08.400 Or is he just going to say, nope, still not going.

00:16:12.600 Just find me.

00:16:13.460 I'm just fine staying right here in Toronto.

00:16:15.540 You know, it's fascinating why he's doing this, because the point of the commission is to put it all out there for the public to see.

00:16:24.820 It's a public inquiry, because it's important for the public to know who was making the decisions to invoke a counterterrorism law on peaceful protesters and why they were making those decisions and the discussions around those decisions.

00:16:39.400 So if Doug Ford is forced to testify, and he absolutely should be, because we can see that there were communications between him and the federal government and him and the OPP, those are not in evidence yet, because Doug Ford is not testifying yet.

00:16:54.620 And I think that's exactly why he doesn't want to testify, because when he comes, guess what he has to bring with him?

00:17:00.240 All his evidence, all his emails, all that stuff is subpoenaed along with him.

00:17:03.960 And I think that's why he's fighting this.

00:17:06.320 And you know what else?

00:17:08.080 Doug Ford is the only person resisting the subpoena.

00:17:12.340 Yeah.

00:17:13.040 Even Justin Trudeau is attending.

00:17:15.500 Marco Mendicino is going to come.

00:17:17.840 And if people like James Bowder, Pat King, to his credit, Tamara Leach, they are going to testify, and they have criminal charges against them.

00:17:29.300 And they're going to show up and testify to, I guess, in some of the other people's cases, the truth as they would like for it to exist.

00:17:38.780 If they're going to show up, these well-kept politicians who did these things to them, they can sure as hell show up too.

00:17:45.260 A hundred percent, Sheila.

00:17:46.900 And you know, we went out on Thursday with the Jumbotron-equipped truck, you know, trying to get, trying to go, I guess, Ford into getting out of his office and into that inquiry.

00:18:01.880 And I'll tell you this, Sheila, the streeters were somewhat fascinating at Yonge and Dundas Square, which was this.

00:18:09.180 There were anti-Ford and pro-Ford people we met.

00:18:13.100 There were very well-informed people about the story and other people, tragically, that said, oh, this is the first I've heard of this inquiry.

00:18:21.400 But I can tell you this, once the issue was explained, 99% said he should testify.

00:18:29.300 So the point is, I don't think he's winning over the hearts and minds of the public by being so cowardly, so terrified about, as you alluded to, maybe some text messages or emails or voicemails that he thought would be forever private and might become public if he has to testify.

00:18:47.860 And you know what? He already looks like a chump in this, by the way, because on the very day that he said, oh, I'm standing shoulder to shoulder with Justin Trudeau, I fully invoke or I fully support the invocation of the Emergencies Act for what? 0.95

00:19:04.040 An extended traffic snarl in Ottawa?

00:19:07.040 Like, all they did was turn the streets of Ottawa into constantly five o'clock, right?

00:19:12.200 Like rush hour. That's all they did.

00:19:13.620 And they kept a lane of traffic open for emergency vehicles.

00:19:16.980 But on the very day that chumpy Doug Ford was saying that, emails were going in as evidence before the commission where Jim Watson, the mayor of Ottawa, and Justin Trudeau in a phone call, it was a readout, sorry, not emails.

00:19:34.500 It was a readout of their phone conversation, and they were plotting to stick the whole mess on Doug Ford.

00:19:42.220 So, you know, Doug Ford's already been betrayed in his bromance.

00:19:49.340 And I think his collusion with Justin Trudeau against the truckers, I think we're going to see a ton of that in his emails. 0.81

00:19:58.160 And it's going to make him look even more pathetic because he was being played by everybody. 0.87

00:20:04.180 Oh, you know, you are so right, Sheila. 0.94

00:20:07.100 Like, just a week ago, Doug Ford saying he stands shoulder to shoulder with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

00:20:13.940 And then just a couple of days ago, Justin Trudeau stabbing him in the back by saying he stands with the teachers unions that predictably are out on strike yet again.

00:20:26.260 And I'm reminded of that great phrase from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, when Caesar is assassinated, which is, et tu, brute, meaning you as well, Brutus.

00:20:40.220 And, of course, that could also be the answer to, Doug, how many cheesecakes did you eat today?

00:20:48.480 Ate two, Brutus.

00:20:50.820 Anyway, Sheila, more fascinating testimony to come in the days ahead.

00:20:56.480 One parting question for you, my friend.

00:20:59.000 Who are you looking most forward to seeing on the stand?

00:21:03.220 I'll give you my answer.

00:21:04.740 It is indeed Marco Mendicino, somebody that would put Pinocchio to shame when it comes to nose lengthening lies.

00:21:14.860 Because I still, still can't wait to hear which law enforcement agencies asked the minister to invoke the Emergencies Act.

00:21:23.740 You remember that one?

00:21:25.420 Yeah.

00:21:25.660 So even over Justin Trudeau, I want to see sneaky lying Marco on the stand.

00:21:31.340 What about yourself, my friend?

00:21:33.760 Well, as we're filming this, she hasn't taken the stand yet, but it would be my friend Tamara Leach.

00:21:38.720 Yes.

00:21:39.900 Because she's been accused of all manner of things she's never been charged with.

00:21:44.000 Sedition, treason, attempted overthrow of the government, terrorism.

00:21:50.940 And when these people hear her speak because they have not heard her speak, and I have,

00:21:56.200 they will realize, I think, some of the more clearer-minded ones, the less radicalized ones by the CBC,

00:22:03.220 they're going to see just how absolutely wrong they were about her.

00:22:07.540 A hundred percent.

00:22:08.360 And you know what I should tell the folks, Sheila?

00:22:10.380 If you want to see Tamara Leach live and in person, the Rebel News Live events,

00:22:15.900 Toronto, November 19th, a Saturday, and also Saturday, November 26th in Calgary.

00:22:23.300 And she will be at both events.

00:22:25.940 And you can be the judge if you think this is the worst homegrown terrorist since Omar Cotter.

00:22:34.400 Of course, the difference is little Omar got a check for $10.5 million.

00:22:38.320 Oh, and he could get on a plane, but Tamara couldn't. 0.96

00:22:41.120 I know. 0.96

00:22:42.160 It's clown world, Sheila.

00:22:44.200 Sheila, thank you so much for your analysis as always, and you have a wonderful weekend, my friend.

00:22:49.780 You too, David.

00:22:50.500 Thanks.

00:22:51.080 There you go.

00:22:51.800 And that was Rebel News Chief Reporter Sheila Gunn-Reed somewhere in the northern hinterland of Alberta.

00:22:58.760 Keep it here, folks.

00:22:59.720 More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.

00:23:02.040 It's not just stopping something.

00:23:08.520 It's decreasing the rate of, you know, expansion of the disease.

00:23:13.820 It is decreasing the severity of the disease.

00:23:17.360 So basically, in these two era, vaccine was effective.

00:23:21.980 It is not perfect.

00:23:23.100 It's not going to solve anything.

00:23:24.340 But it's the only preventive measure that we have that we can decrease the severity and decrease the number of cases to help the health system to be able to, you know, cope with the stress.

00:23:40.980 As long as the health system is staffed.

00:23:43.140 And right now, they are not.

00:23:44.560 Many want to work, but they cannot because they're not vaccinated.

00:23:48.680 The two-week lockdown, really harsh lockdown.

00:23:51.660 I thought, okay, you know what, I'll give it two weeks because it makes sense.

00:23:55.940 You get ready in your hospital.

00:23:57.680 You build capacity.

00:23:59.180 You get your PPE.

00:24:00.500 You get your health care workers ready to go.

00:24:03.500 But this two years, people lost their businesses.

00:24:07.120 Seriously disagree.

00:24:08.880 With?

00:24:09.760 With your point that you say that two weeks was enough.

00:24:13.460 It wasn't.

00:24:15.120 I don't think it was enough because they didn't utilize the two weeks.

00:24:19.260 No, it's not, you know, it should have been done.

00:24:23.000 It must have been done.

00:24:24.340 And it must have been done for a long time.

00:24:26.800 That's, you know, I'm not representing anyone.

00:24:29.520 I'm just saying from a scientific point of view, if we don't do that, it would be, you know, disastrous.

00:24:38.720 It could be exploded.

00:24:40.040 But what about now?

00:24:40.760 It's still disastrous.

00:24:41.640 Yeah, it's the way of disasters.

00:24:47.020 We weigh this and we weigh that.

00:24:49.740 And if one of them is heavier, which in my view it is, it is still in some places it is, then I would agree with that.

00:25:01.000 I'm not a policymaker or someone.

00:25:02.820 That's the thing.

00:25:03.560 Yeah, we have to have that balance with the policymakers and the scientists and the health and the, because they can think about, you know, look at the children.

00:25:13.320 My goodness.

00:25:14.200 Have you thought about the pandemic facing the children with their development and their psychology?

00:25:19.780 It's, it's been terrible.

00:25:23.340 Thank you, though, for your time.

00:25:25.000 Hello, how did the conference go the last three days?

00:25:27.620 Very well, thank you.

00:25:28.680 Good.

00:25:29.220 What was the kind of main topic that you thought would be helpful moving forward for future response?

00:25:34.580 I think the focus was getting action and stop, like, just talking about things.

00:25:40.300 And I think, I think it's resonating with people, but, you know, we'll see how, yeah.

00:25:46.440 Was there any discussion sort of centered around what went wrong and how to better prepare for the next time, you know, with the action?

00:25:55.020 But what kind of action?

00:25:56.540 So I don't want to comment on, you know, I think it's, they're pushing to do things on the grassroots level and also bringing more private sector, right?

00:26:09.640 Because I think the discussions around multilaterals and governments were, yeah, I mean, setting the policy is great, but it's not really translating as fast as people want it to be in, at the bottom of the pyramid.

00:26:25.960 One thing that I didn't sort of see, and of course, it's impossible to meet every conference.

00:26:30.040 Get a taxi ride.

00:26:30.580 Sure, just one last thing.

00:26:32.460 If there was ever sort of this indiscriminate lockdown imposed again, would you support it?

00:26:36.280 I'm sorry, yeah.

00:26:37.720 Thank you for your time.

00:26:38.800 Best of luck.

00:26:39.460 Außerhalb des Geländes des Hotels?

00:26:41.500 Sorry, English?

00:26:42.680 Ja, sure.

00:26:44.160 Könnt ihr eure Filmsachen außerhalb von dem Gelände machen?

00:26:47.860 English?

00:26:48.720 Yes, I know what you mean, but I talk it in German, because we are in Germany.

00:26:53.180 Okay.

00:26:53.800 Ich möchte gerne, dass wir eure Filmaufnahmen da draußen machen.

00:26:56.380 I don't understand.

00:26:58.480 Pardon?

00:26:58.680 No, I don't understand, though, what you're saying.

00:27:04.460 Okay.

00:27:05.180 Can I do it in English?

00:27:06.220 Please do it by the line out of the hotel.

00:27:08.440 Oh, okay.

00:27:09.180 Thank you.

00:27:09.900 Yes, of course.

00:27:10.940 Well, there you have it, folks.

00:27:12.120 If you are a media party journalist that doesn't have any problem with mandatory COVID-19 vaccines

00:27:19.060 or big lockdowns, or for that matter, big government, well, then the World Health Organization

00:27:24.380 will roll out the red carpet for you.

00:27:26.360 But if you are a member of the independent media and you tend to ask prickly, albeit fair,

00:27:33.200 questions, the WHO Gestapo marches you out to the sidewalk as if you are the proverbial

00:27:40.100 skunk to the garden party.

00:27:41.740 As you just saw, this is exactly what happened to Tamara Ugolini.

00:27:46.420 And Tamara joins me now with more on this story.

00:27:49.620 How are you doing there, Tamara?

00:27:51.700 Well, I'm feeling much better now that I'm back in Canada, not having to worry about both

00:27:55.420 the WHO Gestapo and also the German police and maybe even their military.

00:27:59.520 So it's definitely a nice having the Canadian safety net, albeit that it's not as strong

00:28:04.740 as I thought it once was.

00:28:05.860 Well, it's great to have you back, of course, Tamara.

00:28:08.520 But Tamara, we know the likes of the WHO.

00:28:12.880 They don't want independent journalists asking tough questions at their fancy conferences.

00:28:19.160 But I'm most curious, what is their official ostensible policy reason for denying you access

00:28:27.980 in terms of covering the actual conference?

00:28:32.520 Yeah, so I believe the response we got when we tried to seek formal accreditation with the

00:28:37.500 World Health Summit.

00:28:38.520 And again, that's it sounds like they're the same thing, but they're actually different.

00:28:42.360 I mean, in name at least, but their reasoning or their justification was that they didn't

00:28:48.080 have the capacity.

00:28:49.160 They were going to be at capacity limit there at the World Health Summit.

00:28:53.260 And I mean, as you saw from the video footage, we have released thus far, we were able to

00:28:58.980 get in anyway.

00:28:59.940 And whether or not there was an additional two bodies in the room, I mean, people were

00:29:03.860 packed like sardines in there mingling and whining and dining all on the WHO's expense,

00:29:11.440 I would imagine, because I didn't see anyone being given any bills for any of the wine or

00:29:15.900 cheese they were consuming.

00:29:17.640 You know, isn't that remarkable?

00:29:19.440 I mean, I would say that the odds of a mainstream media person being ejected as opposed to a rebel

00:29:29.020 news reporter, well, I think those odds would make even the most reckless gambler cringe,

00:29:33.800 Tamara.

00:29:34.400 Isn't it just such a happy little coincidence that the media organization, they decided,

00:29:41.880 I'm sure it was at random, or they picked a name out of a hat, just happened to be rebel

00:29:47.260 news, just happened to be a journalist like you, Tamara, that's going to ask tough questions. 0.99

00:29:51.840 I mean, how do they even say such balderdash with a straight face?

00:29:57.480 Well, the interesting part is, and I believe I noted in an earlier report, I think it was

00:30:01.280 the day two wrap up, that they clearly note in their little book that they've provided

00:30:05.360 to all the attendees, which I happen to have here, called the World Health Summit, and I

00:30:10.040 can send a better visual of this if needed after.

00:30:13.140 But in here, they say that they welcome all media to their events, and they're friendly

00:30:18.020 with them, and they welcome questions.

00:30:21.500 But I guess it's just good faith questions, not anyone who would be a critic or a skeptic

00:30:26.820 of their response plans.

00:30:28.900 Yeah, all media is equal, except some media are more equal than others.

00:30:33.360 Where have we heard that before?

00:30:35.000 Yeah.

00:30:35.320 Oh, my goodness.

00:30:36.460 If only George Warwell were alive to see the world today.

00:30:40.140 But Tamara, enough about our problems in terms of getting into these places to cover it.

00:30:47.560 What, from what you can tell, and I know you're at a disadvantage because they barred you from

00:30:52.860 entering and taking in the various seminars and speeches and whatnot, but what the heck

00:30:58.840 is the reason for this conference in the first place?

00:31:02.440 Well, the main merit of the entire thing is to establish global health architecture.

00:31:06.900 And of course, many of our viewers are probably familiar with the pandemic treaty, the global

00:31:12.260 pandemic treaty that's trying to be instituted by the World Health Organization.

00:31:16.040 And it's really an attempt at strengthening the mandate of the World Health Organization

00:31:20.900 and them to be able to instill or institute their own pandemic response plans onto the

00:31:28.460 member states if at their whim, essentially, whenever they decide that there's a pandemic

00:31:33.920 and they declare one as such, then it forces the member states who have signed onto the WHO's

00:31:40.720 mandate to comply with whatever they deem necessary.

00:31:43.560 So whether that be masking, forced lockdowns, or as we've seen throughout the COVID narrative,

00:31:49.660 forced vaccinations.

00:31:51.460 You know, Tamara, what you just said is making me extremely nervous.

00:31:57.320 Hasn't the World Health Organization done enough damage over the last two and a half years,

00:32:03.120 as opposed to this organization getting emboldened to roll out even further mandates when it comes

00:32:11.060 to dealing with COVID-19 or, I don't know, are we on, are we still on monkeypox?

00:32:18.020 I'm not sure where we are in the end of the world virus right now, Tamara.

00:32:24.400 But the point I'm getting at is their mandates, their so-called mandates going back more than

00:32:30.600 two years ago, I think did so much damage for nothing, really.

00:32:35.920 Yeah, and I would tend to wholeheartedly agree.

00:32:39.300 And as we have seen, the all-cause mortality globally, not just a Canadian phenomenon, has

00:32:44.860 been skyrocketing ever since, you know, a couple months post the mass rollout of these

00:32:49.560 injections, which was in December of 2021.

00:32:52.600 And so that's what I felt my role there as a journalist was, was to push back on these policies

00:32:58.520 and this global health architecture and ask if they were discussing any of their shortfallings,

00:33:04.540 where they went wrong, what could be corrected in the future, what a more balanced approach

00:33:09.200 would look like in terms of pandemic response, and how we really kind of disregard this globalist

00:33:15.440 agenda for health and listen to what people need at the local level.

00:33:19.440 I mean, the decentralization of health is really what has made health successful up until

00:33:24.640 this point is meeting the needs of your individual patients.

00:33:27.360 And when we disregard those individual needs, that's where we see these knee-jerk reactions

00:33:31.560 that weren't ever based in science, and rather under the guise of public health, which is shown

00:33:36.700 to be, well, in my opinion, grossly overfunded and an inept failure.

00:33:41.200 And so as we continue to release this footage that we gathered throughout the three days at

00:33:47.580 the World Health Summit, one video in particular I'm going to have coming out in the next couple

00:33:51.680 days, and that's who I think was responsible for actually getting us kicked off of the property.

00:33:57.080 But because of Germany's two-party consent laws, we had to be really careful and mindful

00:34:01.460 of how we released this footage, and so we've had to consult both with Canadian lawyers and

00:34:07.680 German lawyers.

00:34:09.000 And so if you follow along with our reports at rebelwho.com, you can stay tuned for the insider

00:34:15.740 previously, and exclusive reports that we have coming out there.

00:34:20.900 And then, of course, if you appreciate the work that we're doing and we have done thus

00:34:23.980 far, you can chip in if you're able.

00:34:26.120 And Tamara, you talked about, you know, local level health authorities, and what is your take?

00:34:31.700 I mean, there is scuttlebutt, there is buzz out there that we might have to go back to masking

00:34:37.980 and social distancing and limited attendance at shopping malls and movie theaters, what

00:34:43.200 have you.

00:34:45.400 Tamara, I'm of the belief that if that does happen, and I can see it happening, given the

00:34:51.600 kind of governments we have in this country, I'm predicting real massive civil disobedience.

00:34:59.320 I mean, nobody I know in my circle is going through that again.

00:35:03.260 I mean, I think of the Roy Schneider quote from Jaws 2 when he's yelling at the mayor.

00:35:08.400 Because I don't intend to go through that hell again.

00:35:10.960 It's flu season, so we got to clamp down.

00:35:15.040 We have to be safe.

00:35:17.320 That's the word they always use.

00:35:19.220 Yeah, it's always about safety and convenience with these sorts of things.

00:35:22.060 And I don't put it past them that they would try to institute some of these mandates again.

00:35:28.120 But I really don't think that they would have the compliance of the general population

00:35:31.840 like they did before.

00:35:32.760 And I've said this repeatedly, even in my personal life, that I don't think they would get away

00:35:37.440 with the vast majority of these things ever again, at least not, you know, for another

00:35:41.480 five, ten years.

00:35:42.360 I really don't think that we're out of the probability of that happening again.

00:35:48.660 But more of a long term thing, you know, looking toward those sustainable development goals

00:35:53.360 2030 and onward.

00:35:55.080 In the short term here, I do not think they will have the compliance of the general population.

00:35:59.520 I mean, people know way more now than they did in 2020.

00:36:04.200 And arguably, that's thanks to some of the reporting we've done at Rebel News.

00:36:07.400 But there are way more access to information requests that have come out proving this response

00:36:12.360 was not evidence based and did little to nothing to actually stop the spread of this seasonal

00:36:16.900 respiratory virus.

00:36:18.200 There's also the lawsuits and just the general mounting science we have now that is actually

00:36:24.080 evidence based that is, in my opinion, getting more and more attention as people continue

00:36:29.660 to see all the shortfallings, you know, especially with the vaccine mandates and how those were

00:36:33.580 meant to be our saving grace and be our ticket out of the pandemic.

00:36:36.080 And now cases are and hospitalizations are higher than they were before the vaccine.

00:36:41.280 So people are asking a lot of questions now and not just sort of blindly following the herd anymore.

00:36:48.040 Thank goodness.

00:36:48.380 And certainly the evidence that's coming in on a daily basis, Tamara, it's just looking worse and worse.

00:36:54.260 One final observation.

00:36:55.440 You know, the outrageous and egregious way you were treated in Berlin.

00:37:02.620 I mean, it really bothers me.

00:37:04.880 But on the other hand, there's always a silver lining, Tamara.

00:37:07.200 And I think it's this.

00:37:09.100 It's, you know, what's referred to as the Barbra Streisand effect. 0.97

00:37:12.660 They think they're being, you know, such authoritarians by determining who gets to cover them and

00:37:19.780 who gets frog march to the curb. 1.00

00:37:21.980 But really what it does is it looks so bad on them.

00:37:25.860 It shows them to be the elites they are.

00:37:29.100 It shows them to be so petty, so tyrannical.

00:37:33.720 So in other words, Tamara, by those actions, they give themselves a self-inflicted public relations 0.99

00:37:42.600 black eye.

00:37:43.320 That's what I think.

00:37:44.340 Last word goes to you, my friend.

00:37:46.260 I would tend to agree as well, David.

00:37:48.340 And the thing that they really didn't know, didn't realize, I think, when they decided

00:37:52.100 to ask us to leave the property, which, of course, in a foreign country, I wasn't going 0.99

00:37:56.100 to start resisting or pushing back on that.

00:37:58.020 And there was a bit of a language barrier as well.

00:38:00.060 But they didn't realize that we had actually been on the inside for the full three days of

00:38:05.000 the conference.

00:38:05.540 In fact, when we were outside there and trying to get Garner interviews from the attendees as

00:38:10.860 they left, Drea and cameraman that we had on scene with us there, Ed, actually left

00:38:16.280 out of the building, we gave them the keys to our Airbnb, we stayed there and continued

00:38:20.660 reporting outside for about 20 minutes, half an hour, while they went back to the Airbnb

00:38:24.900 after gathering that full day of footage.

00:38:27.660 And then, you know, shortly thereafter, we were banished off to the sidewalk for simply

00:38:32.920 asking questions and trying to stay out of the pouring rain.

00:38:35.040 It was also pouring rain that day.

00:38:36.460 You can see in the video, my hair is drenched.

00:38:38.760 I was soaked.

00:38:40.100 So was my cameraman.

00:38:40.900 And we were just trying to keep the equipment out of the rain under the canopy of the hotel

00:38:45.140 itself.

00:38:46.200 When again, I'll have this video coming out in a couple of days when one of the main key

00:38:50.980 players in the World Health Summit, I think, was who was responsible for getting us banished

00:38:55.800 out there.

00:38:56.260 But yes, I agree.

00:38:57.120 It does look bad on them.

00:38:58.800 And the fact that they can't take any sort of criticism back on their policies and attest

00:39:04.180 to the strength of what they've imposed onto the entire global population, almost indiscriminately,

00:39:11.100 I think that speaks for itself.

00:39:13.060 Well, you know what?

00:39:13.900 I didn't know anything about that hotel key switcheroo.

00:39:17.740 I mean, it sounds like a script from Mission Impossible.

00:39:20.160 You're a modern day Barbara Bain, Tamara Ugolini.

00:39:23.940 So there you go.

00:39:25.120 I love the fact that you outsmarted those WHO creeps and at their own game.

00:39:30.900 Tamara, wonderful work as always.

00:39:33.120 Thank you so much for joining me.

00:39:35.880 Thanks, David.

00:39:36.900 You got it.

00:39:37.760 And that was Tamara Ugolini in Coburg, Ontario.

00:39:41.840 Folks, keep it here.

00:39:43.020 More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.

00:39:48.640 Progressive Conservative Premier of Ontario Doug Ford and his former Solicitor General

00:39:52.820 Sylvia Jones are trying to shield themselves from public scrutiny and arguably disclosure of 0.69

00:39:59.200 internal communication by legally resisting the commissioner's subpoena that is being used to try

00:40:05.000 to compel them to testify at the Public Order Emergency Commission happening right now in Ottawa.

00:40:11.080 I believe there's also someone in court today attacking one of my one of the subpoenas.

00:40:19.840 The commission is a legislative requirement meant to scrutinize and determine justification

00:40:26.000 for the invocation of the Federal Emergencies Act, which is basically martial law, after it is invoked.

00:40:32.540 Something that our overlord, Prime Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau, did on February 14th

00:40:37.840 in response to an annoying trucker convoy that took to the nation's capital in Ottawa for three weeks

00:40:44.180 at the end of January earlier this year.

00:40:47.840 The federal government has invoked the Emergencies Act to supplement provincial and territorial capacity.

00:40:57.100 The convoy was a political annoyance for Trudeau and the Liberal government,

00:41:01.400 who had imposed heavy-handed COVID-related mandates onto Canadians,

00:41:06.660 but it was also a direct result of annoyed Canadians being continually ignored by all levels of government

00:41:14.420 with any opposition to the indiscriminate infringements of the government into their everyday lives.

00:41:21.840 And Doug Ford said himself that he stands shoulder-to-shoulder with Trudeau. Check it out.

00:41:27.360 Yes, I stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the Prime Minister.

00:41:32.020 These folks were, you know, camping out, everything from whirlpools, disrupting downtown,

00:41:39.200 disrupting the lives of the people of Ottawa.

00:41:42.160 We've worked collaboratively with the Mayor and the Prime Minister over at the borders.

00:41:48.140 They were holding up a billion dollars of trade every single day, getting across our borders.

00:41:53.340 We were getting phone calls from governors. It's unacceptable.

00:41:56.380 So why is he being dishonest and saying that he wasn't asked to testify?

00:42:02.700 How come, Premier Ford, you're not testifying at this inquiry? Were you asked? Did you decline?

00:42:10.000 I have not been asked again. I want to repeat what I said earlier.

00:42:14.660 We have top officials from the OPP that were running the operation with conjunction with municipal police agencies and the RCMP.

00:42:23.540 Because he was asked, and he tried to get out of testifying by offering written submissions.

00:42:30.360 It was at that point that the commissioner issued a subpoena for him to testify at the commission.

00:42:37.900 And repeatedly, the judge responsible for overhearing the arguments from Ford et al.'s lawyers,

00:42:42.620 and both the commissioner and the Ottawa residence lawyer asked whether or not the skirting of the commission requirement

00:42:50.140 under this guise of parliamentary privilege was being used as a sword or as a shield.

00:42:56.680 And we are going to call on Premier Doug Ford to come out of hiding, to comply with the subpoena and testify in front of the commission as required by the mandate of the Federal Emergencies Act.

00:43:12.520 We're immediately launching a campaign at stophiding.ca, where we have a petition that calls on Ford to testify at the commission hearings.

00:43:22.240 We have also hired a billboard truck with a similar message that will start its route around Queen's Park in Toronto on November the 3rd.

00:43:31.520 So, where's Waldo? I mean, where's Doug?

00:43:35.120 Well, we've come right to his business address here at Queen's Park.

00:43:39.140 And it's incredible because let's look at the chronology.

00:43:43.080 First of all, Doug Ford said he was never asked to testify.

00:43:48.600 Do you remember that? Check out this clip.

00:43:50.520 How come, Premier Ford, you're not testifying at this inquiry?

00:43:54.560 Were you asked? Did you decline?

00:43:55.920 I have not. I have not been asked.

00:44:00.520 So, folks, the question remains.

00:44:02.500 Why is Premier Ford seemingly so terrified to testify at the Emergencies Act inquiry?

00:44:10.340 Well, we're not letting him off the hook so easy.

00:44:13.440 We feel it is parliamentary duty to testify.

00:44:17.700 It is not his parliamentary privilege to hide in his office like some supersized Wyarton Willie.

00:44:24.940 And by the way, folks, if you want to get involved with our campaign, please visit StopHiding.ca.

00:44:32.480 That's StopHiding.ca.

00:44:35.100 Please sign our petition demanding that the Premier do the right thing and testify.

00:44:40.720 Oh, and if you can, please chip in a buck or three to help us pay for the rental of that Jumbotron-equipped truck.

00:44:48.600 My thanks in advance.

00:44:49.940 In any event, you had plenty to say about the reluctance of Premier Ford and former Solicitor General Sylvia Jones when it comes to testifying.

00:45:00.680 Ralph Riley writes,

00:45:01.980 It's incredible that they refuse their public officials.

00:45:05.760 Well, good point, Ralph.

00:45:06.820 They are public servants indeed, meaning they serve us, not vice versa.

00:45:11.340 Isn't it amazing how many people in government and in the bureaucracy seem to forget this caveat?

00:45:19.660 The Flyer 99 writes,

00:45:22.060 When someone has a guilty conscience, they are always afraid.

00:45:26.760 That's a really good point, actually.

00:45:28.660 So the question remains, though, what is Ford and Jones so afraid of?

00:45:34.180 Some internal communications being made public that they thought would be forever private?

00:45:39.800 And if that is indeed the case, then what was said in those communications?

00:45:46.100 Fascinating.

00:45:47.780 Shane Pankhurst writes,

00:45:50.640 He just straight lied to us for over two years.

00:45:53.420 Now he doesn't want to lie.

00:45:55.560 S-M-H. 0.93

00:45:57.020 Yeah, and the biggest lie of all is Doug Ford's proclamation that he's a conservative.

00:46:02.560 His past four years plus of governance does not resemble anything conservative.

00:46:09.920 And what did he say the other day?

00:46:11.940 That he stands shoulder to shoulder with Prime Minister Blackface McGroper? 0.93

00:46:17.100 Wow, for the beleaguered members of Four Nation. 0.99

00:46:21.200 Talk about bait and switch.

00:46:23.020 And Chris Wallace writes,

00:46:26.440 I'd rather see him sitting in an isolation cell for refusing to appear.

00:46:30.880 Well, that would be almost as harsh as taking away his cherry cheesecake dessert.

00:46:36.000 But seriously, if he is ordered to go testify and Ford still refuses,

00:46:43.080 then what happens?

00:46:44.260 Can't wait to see how this saga is going to play out in the days ahead.

00:46:50.080 Well, that wraps up another edition of Rebel Roundup.

00:46:52.740 Thanks so much for joining us.

00:46:54.420 Have yourselves a fantastic weekend.

00:46:57.040 See you next week, of course.

00:46:58.480 And hey, folks, never forget,

00:47:00.320 without risk, there can be no glory.

00:47:02.980 Good night.

00:47:03.420 Good night.

00:47:33.420 Good night.

Rebel News Podcast - November 05, 2022

Rebel Roundup： What happens in Berlin and Ottawa... Ft. Sheila Gunn Reid and Tamara Ugolini

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