Rebel News Podcast - Rex Murphy says Canada isn’t racist — but some racists disagree!

00:00:00.000 Oh, my rebels, have I got a monologue for you today. I spent a lot of time on this.

00:00:04.560 I talk about Rex Murphy's column in the National Post. He says Canada is not racist. Well, three

00:00:09.580 race inspectors say you are so wrong, you racist. Only a racist would say you're not racist.

00:00:15.660 Ha! I go through it and I tell you a little secret about the three race inspectors.

00:00:21.060 That's all ahead. And by the way, can I invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus?

00:00:25.280 It's $8 a month or $80 a year. And you get access to the video version of the show. And I would like

00:00:30.540 you to see that because I want you to see what these three race inspectors look like. It's actually 0.73

00:00:35.460 relevant. Okay, that's my pitch for you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. You can do that

00:00:41.260 at rebelnews.com. Here is the podcast.

00:00:55.280 Tonight, Rex Murphy says Canada is not racist, but some racists disagree. It's June 5th,

00:01:05.580 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:09.040 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:12.760 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:16.840 The only thing I have to say to the government, the wire publisher, is because it's my bloody

00:01:21.720 right to do so.

00:01:22.700 Thank God we live in Canada, where, as part of the British Empire, we abolished slavery two

00:01:33.800 centuries ago. And the Royal Navy interdicted slave ships. We were literally the world's

00:01:39.280 first do-gooders. But it wasn't about being woke, it was about being Christian. The whole 0.60

00:01:44.520 anti-slavery movement was a Christian project, as told in the movie Amazing Grace.

00:01:49.880 One man will risk everything.

00:01:52.560 Payment in kind.

00:01:53.740 There's nothing you have I'd want, your grace.

00:01:55.900 He'd fetch at least 25 guineas.

00:01:57.720 The game is over.

00:01:59.320 To speak for those who could not.

00:02:01.520 They do this.

00:02:02.440 To let you know that you no longer belong to God, but to a man. 0.90

00:02:06.500 To make the blind see. 0.72

00:02:08.500 We have no evidence that the Africans themselves have any objection to the trade.

00:02:13.380 And to lead a movement that would change the world.

00:02:16.560 Do it.

00:02:17.540 Throw their dirty, filthy ships out of the water.

00:02:19.840 The slave trade has 300 MPs in its pocket. 0.56

00:02:22.720 It would be just you against them.

00:02:24.200 So that's us.

00:02:25.100 We're the good guys.

00:02:26.320 We were the destination for the Underground Railroad, where slaves from the southern U.S.

00:02:31.020 ran away to.

00:02:32.400 I'm not saying there was never any slavery in Canada.

00:02:34.880 In fact, slavery predates Canada.

00:02:37.580 As I've shown you before, slavery was commonplace amongst different Indian tribes across the Americas,

00:02:44.100 including in Canada.

00:02:46.500 One more movie recommendation, if I may, Mel Gibson's Apocalypto,

00:02:50.440 which takes place in the days before the Spanish landed in Central America, 500 plus years ago.

00:02:57.280 For more than four months there are a number of human criminals.

00:03:01.780 The

00:03:03.060 How

00:03:05.720 You

00:03:09.040 You

00:03:18.200 are

00:03:20.180 the

00:03:20.640 So we're lucky we escaped the moral calamity of slavery and its echoes, including Jim Crow laws 0.99

00:03:48.780 in the States, which were segregation-style laws. I'm not saying things were perfect in Canada,

00:03:53.900 certainly not from a 21st century wokeness measure. I mean, have you even read the Indian Act

00:03:59.980 and its current racism that is in effect now? But still, we're doing pretty well.

00:04:06.260 If you look at the top countries that are a source for Canadian immigration every year,

00:04:11.000 you'll notice one thing about them. They are visible minorities. So unless hundreds of thousands 1.00

00:04:18.180 of minorities every year are wrong, this is not just a good place to be. It is literally 1.00

00:04:23.480 better than their own homeland. Somalis think we're better than Somalia. Bangladeshis think 1.00

00:04:30.520 we're better than Bangladesh. As Ahmed Hassan himself said before he became a liberal MP and turned 1.00

00:04:36.980 bitter and racist, Canada is actually a better place to be a Muslim than most places in the Muslim world. 1.00

00:04:44.360 It is a fact lost on many Muslims, including Canadian Somalis, that it is countries like the

00:04:51.580 United States and Canada that guarantee human rights and religious freedoms that we can actually

00:04:58.520 practice our faith best in these sorts of environment. The civil rights of our community members must be

00:05:05.700 protected. But obviously, it's also equally important to disseminate these integration-friendly messages.

00:05:14.360 in order to contribute to a process where our communities emphasize the defense and attachment

00:05:20.200 to the countries of Canada and the United States.

00:05:23.280 So yeah, I'm not saying there aren't any racists among us, but our society is not racist as a culture.

00:05:29.840 That's just an obvious fact. But look, it's just too useful for politicians on the left to whip up

00:05:35.500 race-baiting. It's too tempting. And so despite the fact that the recent race riots in America

00:05:40.420 have precisely nothing to do with Canada, Canadian criminals and politicians have tried to make it

00:05:46.960 our business, like these folks looting a guitar store in Montreal the other day. Yeah, do you think

00:05:52.680 they could tell you a single thing about George Floyd or Floyd George or whatever they would say

00:05:58.080 their looting was about? Here's a guy who seems deeply motivated by racial justice in Montreal.

00:06:04.160 Well, if you think that's gross, look at this. Their guitars, not human lives. Montreal merchants says

00:06:32.200 getting looted was worth it to fight racism. I'm serious. That's a headline. Without any questions

00:06:40.160 whatsoever, it's a noble demonstration. And it's clearly far overdue, says Lenny Letting.

00:06:47.320 Oh my God, he said that. The Liberal Cabinet put out such forced statements about racism. It was so

00:06:55.160 cringeworthy. Especially the white liberal women of the Liberal Cabinet, who didn't say one word, 0.99

00:07:01.340 not one word, about Trudeau's blackface, and who happily stabbed in the back an Aboriginal woman, 0.99

00:07:08.020 a woman of color, as they say, Jody Wilson-Raybould, when she became too uppity and forgot her place,

00:07:14.320 and was fired as Trudeau's justice minister. So yeah, spare me, liberal white women of the Trudeau 1.00

00:07:20.360 Cabinet. Here's Justin Trudeau when he was asked about the race riots in America.

00:07:25.400 You've been reluctant to comment on the words and actions of the U.S. president. But we do have

00:07:31.080 Donald Trump now calling for military action against protesters. We saw protesters tear gas

00:07:35.440 yesterday to make way for a presidential photo op. I'd like to ask you what you think about that.

00:07:39.940 And if you don't want to comment, what message do you think you're sending?

00:07:46.720 Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve.

00:07:49.260 We all watch in horror and consternation what's going on in the United States.

00:08:10.940 That was a 21-second pause.

00:08:13.000 Did he just sort of malfunction?

00:08:14.740 Did he forget his memorized line?

00:08:16.760 Was his earpiece not working?

00:08:19.260 Did he want to insult Donald Trump, as he surely has been doing in private with the rest of

00:08:24.800 his friends, but was telling himself to be better and not start an international incident?

00:08:30.460 Or was he just, I don't know, still stoned again?

00:08:33.580 I'm not being mean.

00:08:34.260 I'm just asking a question.

00:08:36.820 21 seconds.

00:08:38.040 Here's what Al Sharpton had to say about that.

00:08:39.900 This is the tipping point for changing how policing is going to be done in America.

00:08:44.400 And I'm going to be forthright in that.

00:08:46.820 The hope I have is I've seen as many whites marching as blacks. 1.00

00:08:51.700 I've seen people old and young.

00:08:54.340 It's a new day.

00:08:55.700 The time has met the moment of change in America.

00:08:59.700 And I'm going to express that in my eulogy.

00:09:02.200 And since you're from Canada, I won't have a 21-second gap before I say what I have to say. 0.88

00:09:07.360 Ouch.

00:09:07.640 I'm guessing Sharpton didn't forgive the blackface incident as easily as the white women in his cabinet did.

00:09:13.980 So anyways, Rex Murphy weighed in on things in a brilliant column in the National Post, their most read item of the month for sure.

00:09:23.380 It's this one.

00:09:24.420 Canada is not a racist country, despite what the liberals say.

00:09:27.680 To any fair mind, Canada is a mature, welcoming, open-minded, and generous country.

00:09:32.580 It would be helpful if these liberals kept the full story of this country in mind when discussing racism.

00:09:37.860 The full story.

00:09:38.640 I think that's the key.

00:09:39.700 In a country centuries old, with millions of people, there have been atrocious moments, either by today's standards or even by standards of the past.

00:09:47.460 Sure.

00:09:48.240 But tell the full story, please.

00:09:49.860 How much are racism and discrimination actually a part of Canadian reality?

00:09:56.780 Are they overwhelmingly present?

00:09:58.740 Are they, in McKenna's view, a central part of Canadian life?

00:10:03.040 Where do they manifest themselves?

00:10:04.500 Are some provinces more racist and discriminatory than others?

00:10:08.980 Those are good questions, and I can assure you that Rex spent more time thinking about McKenna's statements than McKenna did.

00:10:15.900 Do we not have welcoming immigration policies?

00:10:18.040 Are our largest cities not a great montage of people from every corner of the world, of every color and creed?

00:10:23.220 Do we not, both in private and public, just celebrate Canada's multicultural nature?

00:10:27.020 Do our schools not press the ideas of tolerance and acceptance towards all peoples and all faiths from kindergarten through high school?

00:10:33.340 Is it not a doctrine of Canadian civic life that to end any trace of discrimination or racism is a cardinal rationale for the very existence of modern Canada?

00:10:42.420 Of course, I mean, it's so obvious, it's amazing that anyone had to say it.

00:10:45.600 But what an outrage it was that he did say it.

00:10:49.180 How dare he, the racist?

00:10:51.280 By championing anti-racism and saying Canada was in fact anti-racist, don't you know that thereby Rex just proved how racist he was?

00:11:00.780 I mean, that's the riddle of it.

00:11:01.840 If you say you're not racist, well, that is the proof that you are racist, because only a racist would say he's not racist.

00:11:08.540 I saw this tweet in response by a co-worker of Rex Murphy.

00:11:14.680 I unfortunately had to click on and read this horrifying column in its entirety in order to write an email to my editor expressing my utter disappointment that we decided to run him.

00:11:24.060 There's no point reading it.

00:11:25.260 I assure you, there's nothing to learn here.

00:11:27.180 By the way, she didn't provide a link to Rex Murphy's article, just a screenshot of it.

00:11:32.840 She didn't want to infect anyone else, you see.

00:11:35.940 Here's what I wrote in reply to that comment.

00:11:38.720 I said, a journalist telling people not to read the other side of the story is closed-minded.

00:11:45.560 But a journalist telling people not to read her own newspaper is not trustworthy.

00:11:50.840 Why would she continue to work there against her own conscience, not someone I can trust? 0.66

00:11:56.980 That's the thing.

00:11:57.680 I mean, her name is Van Mala Subramaniam.

00:12:01.980 And as you can see by her LinkedIn biography, she is a business writer for the same newspaper she writes for the Financial Post section of the National Post.

00:12:11.960 And before that, she worked for Vice.

00:12:13.820 And before that, she worked for Bloomberg.

00:12:15.920 And before that, she worked for CBC.

00:12:17.480 So you can see her life in Canada has been blocked by systemic racism.

00:12:22.780 Just no opportunities at all.

00:12:24.920 But like I said, what an odd reply to snipe at your own newspaper, but to take its money.

00:12:29.540 It's almost like she was just virtue signaling.

00:12:31.980 And actually, when push comes to shove, puts money ahead of principles.

00:12:36.220 Well, to their credit, instead of firing Van Mala for disparaging their newspaper as racist,

00:12:42.040 the National Post invited her to make her case.

00:12:44.380 I confess I had never heard of Van Mala before, so I was unfamiliar with her work.

00:12:49.680 I would have thought she would have taken this unique opportunity to make a convincing case.

00:12:54.420 But yeah, no.

00:12:55.640 Let me take you through some of it.

00:12:56.900 It's quite remarkable.

00:12:59.440 Here it is.

00:13:00.260 She says, before you declare Canada is not a racist country, do your homework.

00:13:05.220 Okay.

00:13:05.480 I'm always open to doing homework.

00:13:09.860 She says, Rex Murphy, the conservative commentator, former CBC radio host, and a 73-year-old white 0.68

00:13:16.860 man, is convinced that racism does not exist in this country, and that the vast majority

00:13:21.740 of Canadians would never participate in it.

00:13:24.420 Okay.

00:13:24.860 Hang on.

00:13:25.580 Is that an argument?

00:13:26.700 Her very first sentence, which I always think is the most important sentence, is chastising

00:13:31.940 Rex Murphy for being a certain age and a certain race?

00:13:36.500 You're an old white man. 0.85

00:13:38.040 That's not an argument.

00:13:39.620 And you know, it's a little bit racist.

00:13:42.660 She says that Rex effectively erases centuries of history that pertain to the founding of this

00:13:48.600 nation.

00:13:50.120 No, I'm not sure he did, by the way.

00:13:51.540 I think he was saying that Canada is not a racist country.

00:13:54.260 I'm not sure if he's going back to historical issues, and I'll come back to this, but she

00:13:59.820 mocks Rex's points, including the fact that Canada had welcoming immigration policies.

00:14:07.240 She recaps Rex's points with some spin, and then she says this.

00:14:11.140 It is perhaps too obvious to state that someone who has absolutely no lived experience of racism,

00:14:17.100 discrimination, bigotry, who has never been anything other than accepted, who has clearly

00:14:21.740 no interest in really understanding race issues in this country beyond performative platitudes

00:14:26.340 and slogans pushed forward by corporate institutions and the political class, should not be weighing

00:14:31.720 in on the subject of racism.

00:14:33.940 That's a lot of sociology terms here.

00:14:36.160 So there you have that.

00:14:38.240 It's like we talked about yesterday in my interview with Philip Slayton.

00:14:40.860 You don't make arguments anymore.

00:14:42.700 You just check the right identity boxes, and it's decided.

00:14:45.960 If you're a 73-year-old white man, don't even open your mouth.

00:14:49.340 If you don't have a lived experience of racism, you should not be talking, because your ideas

00:14:55.500 don't work, because no one has lived a tougher life than Van Mela Subramaniam, who was clearly

00:15:04.960 born in the ghetto and had to sit at the back of the bus and drink from the water fountain

00:15:08.940 that said colored people only and had KKK crosses burning on her front yard. 1.00

00:15:13.620 I mean, the racist hardship she has faced in life, she can talk about Canada, but not you.

00:15:21.780 And apparently, actually growing up poor in Newfoundland doesn't teach anyone about hardship

00:15:27.800 and overcoming challenges, but working for Vice and the CBC does.

00:15:32.100 Hey, can I stop and point out something here before I continue?

00:15:34.620 Van Mela Subramaniam is not black.

00:15:41.660 She's just not.

00:15:42.820 I think it's a Tamil name.

00:15:45.200 Tamils are rather newcomers to Canada.

00:15:47.260 They weren't interned in the Second World War.

00:15:49.800 That was the Japanese. 0.99

00:15:50.780 They weren't given second-class citizenship and forced to live on a reserve.

00:15:54.460 Those are Indians.

00:15:55.680 Like I say, I had never heard of her before, so I just Googled her.

00:15:58.720 And here's just a random sample of what I found.

00:16:00.700 Steve, there were a couple of sensible things I thought.

00:16:04.000 So, for one, just basic things like making sure there's no peak electricity rates for the next 45 days,

00:16:10.720 deferring interest payments on student loans.

00:16:13.120 So I think I hear a foreign accent, as in, she came here pretty recently.

00:16:18.240 She hasn't actually lived Canadian racism herself.

00:16:23.240 Neither did her parents, obviously, or her grandparents.

00:16:25.660 They might have lived under racism, but it wasn't here in Canada.

00:16:31.720 Subramaniam didn't hear stories growing up about, I don't know, how it was like to be Irish in Montreal in the 1850s,

00:16:40.040 or how it was like to be black in Halifax in the 1920s, or Jewish in Montreal in the 1950s.

00:16:45.500 So she's not from here.

00:16:47.580 She actually doesn't know the lived experience here.

00:16:50.200 In fact, the one thing she knows about is what she mocked Rex about, our welcoming immigration policies.

00:16:58.560 That's her lived experience.

00:17:00.720 What does she know about our past, racist or not, that Rex Murphy doesn't,

00:17:04.840 who has lived here for 73 years and surely has memories of what his parents and grandparents told him,

00:17:11.340 memories maybe that stretch back 400 years of Newfoundland.

00:17:14.480 Yeah, if you're a newcomer, mocking someone for living here for 73 years is not persuasive

00:17:22.020 when you're saying you know Canada better than Rex does.

00:17:26.840 But remember who we're talking about here, a journalist in a newspaper.

00:17:30.440 I had never heard of this woman before.

00:17:31.980 She looks modestly successful, I guess.

00:17:34.840 Rex is a national star, easily the biggest draw in the National Post since the untimely passing of Christy Blatchford.

00:17:40.820 But they're both writers for a living.

00:17:42.480 They both depend on freedom of speech.

00:17:45.080 But Van Mala Subramaniam has apparently decided that free speech is not a Canadian value.

00:17:52.880 People like Rex should not be weighing in on the subject of racism.

00:17:58.180 They certainly should not be allowed to declare that racism is over, nor be given a national platform to do so.

00:18:05.700 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:18:06.520 So it's one thing for her to say, I don't think you should talk.

00:18:11.400 That's a kind of rhetorical bullying, just telling someone to shut up.

00:18:14.200 That's not argument.

00:18:15.420 That's not discourse.

00:18:16.860 It frankly makes me doubt the quality of her journalism.

00:18:18.820 Does she just tell people to shut up if they have facts or arguments that don't fit her preconceived narrative for a story? 0.92

00:18:24.340 Sounds pretty close-minded to me, which is not the mark of a good reporter.

00:18:27.480 But she moves quickly from, I don't think Rex should weigh in, to he should not, to, she says,

00:18:35.840 he most certainly should not be allowed to say that Canada is not racist, and certainly not a national platform.

00:18:46.140 So he shouldn't talk at all about racism.

00:18:48.540 But if he dares to talk about racism, he absolutely should not say Canada isn't racist.

00:18:56.420 And for sure, for sure, for sure, he shouldn't be given a platform for that.

00:19:00.360 He shouldn't be allowed.

00:19:02.440 Someone should stop him, ban him.

00:19:06.140 So now an employee of the National Post who's worked there for one year and 10 months, according to her LinkedIn biographer,

00:19:13.020 she's telling the newspaper that she definitely should never publish things that Rex Murphy has to say if she doesn't agree with him.

00:19:20.080 I couldn't help but notice that Van Mela's Subramaniam worked at Vice for also one year and 11 months before the Post,

00:19:27.780 and she worked at Bloomberg for only five months before that.

00:19:31.580 Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on there, but it sort of makes me laugh that she's telling the National Post who is or isn't allowed to write in it.

00:19:38.160 I wonder if that's why she left those other places.

00:19:41.040 But what makes me cry after laughing is that the National Post ran this self-abasing piece, crapping all over them.

00:19:49.140 Not that Rex Murphy shouldn't be challenged.

00:19:50.980 Why not?

00:19:51.900 And it's a good idea for the National Post to host debates, even about its star writers.

00:19:56.400 Perfect place.

00:19:57.940 But this is the argument.

00:19:59.200 Hey, guys, I'm brown.

00:20:00.980 Rex is white.

00:20:02.400 QED, debate over.

00:20:04.620 Yeah, no, I don't think so.

00:20:05.800 But let me show you one more thing.

00:20:07.140 I mentioned that Van Mela's Subramaniam is Tamil, I think.

00:20:11.000 And that means a Tamil name, and she has an accent.

00:20:13.620 So she's from Sri Lanka.

00:20:15.460 So she's brown, not black.

00:20:17.380 She's not African-American.

00:20:18.480 And I'm sorry to talk about these things.

00:20:20.340 In my mind, this is all irrelevant.

00:20:22.420 But it's the basis of her entire argument from her very first sentence.

00:20:26.980 So would you permit me?

00:20:28.500 So she's brown, a newcomer to Canada. 1.00

00:20:32.560 Looks like she's never had a hard day in her life here.

00:20:35.540 Came here to get away from her home country, I guess. 1.00

00:20:39.260 But look at what she does.

00:20:40.640 For the rest of the op-ed, she talks about anecdotes of black people.

00:20:47.980 Let me quote.

00:20:48.620 Because the Canada that Rex Murphy says is not racist is the same Canada where his own former black colleague, the esteemed television journalist, Dwight Drummond, host of CBC Toronto's Evening News, was handcuffed by police, face down on streetcar tracks with guns, plural, trained on him and his friend for the crime of leaving his home to get takeout in downtown Toronto, unquote.

00:21:09.620 Okay, again, I didn't know who she was talking about or what she was talking about, so I Googled it.

00:21:13.620 So apparently, back in the year 1995, 25 years ago, Dwight Drummond was arrested and people claimed it was racial profiling.

00:21:22.760 So a 25-year-old anecdote, and let's say that that's accurately what happened.

00:21:31.940 Let's just say it was because he was black. 0.98

00:21:33.980 I don't know if that's a fact.

00:21:36.360 Even if it were the case, is that your proof that Canada is a racist society?

00:21:42.760 That anecdote.

00:21:43.880 Let me read some more.

00:21:44.400 It is the same Canada where the CBC investigative journalist Asha Tomlinson, another former black colleague of Murphy's, said her brother, while a teenager in the predominant non-white Toronto suburb of Scarborough, was repeatedly stopped and interrogated by police on drives to the corner store over nothing.

00:22:01.680 Okay, I hadn't heard of that either, so I read an article about this woman's brother as a teenager.

00:22:07.120 When my brother was a teenager in the early 1990s, living in Toronto's eastern suburb of Scarborough, he would drive to our corner store to get candy and pop all the time.

00:22:17.340 That is until he started to get stopped by police.

00:22:20.060 They would question him, ask him where he was going, why he was out at night.

00:22:25.480 And that's it.

00:22:27.420 That's the story.

00:22:29.240 Again, maybe it was racism, although there's actually nothing racial about the story.

00:22:33.200 Just a teenager being asked what he's doing out at night in a car by police.

00:22:37.200 Could be because he was black.

00:22:39.400 Could be because he was a teen.

00:22:40.920 We don't actually know.

00:22:42.540 Also, it's a 25-year-old anecdote.

00:22:46.500 And that's your proof that the Canada we live in today is racist and why Rex Murphy has to shut up.

00:22:55.060 She cites a few more anecdotes.

00:22:56.620 There are plenty of anecdotes in a country of 37 million people.

00:23:00.500 Some of them involve criminals or police shooting criminals or accused criminals.

00:23:05.380 Some is just gossip.

00:23:07.780 They're so rare that she has to reach back 25 years.

00:23:11.000 It's hard to make that case.

00:23:13.360 When so many police in 2020 are black, including, you know, the chief of police for Subramian's own city. 0.93

00:23:20.420 Subramian didn't live any of this, though.

00:23:24.320 This wasn't her lived experience.

00:23:26.160 I don't even know if she was here 25 years ago, judging by her accent and her age.

00:23:30.580 So she didn't live this.

00:23:32.860 But again, she's not black. 0.96

00:23:37.980 And that's important because the black grievance in America comes in large part from their history of slavery.

00:23:45.040 And then the history of segregation and Jim Crow laws.

00:23:47.780 And I'm sorry, we just didn't have that up here.

00:23:51.560 We just didn't.

00:23:52.740 And thank God we didn't.

00:23:54.780 But what's the angle here?

00:23:55.820 Why is Subramian trying to appropriate the American black experience? 1.00

00:24:01.220 She's not American. 1.00

00:24:03.040 She's not black. 0.97

00:24:04.260 She's not a descendant of American slaves.

00:24:07.040 It's a bit pitiful.

00:24:08.700 But I think it's transparent.

00:24:10.580 I don't really buy into the concept of cultural appropriation.

00:24:14.100 And Subramian has appropriated the English language and other Western concepts, not her native Tamil ones. 0.96

00:24:19.960 Hey, me too.

00:24:20.720 I'm Jewish.

00:24:21.380 And I even appropriated the Christian custom of calling the year 2020, counting from Jesus' birth.

00:24:26.460 And I'm not even Christian.

00:24:27.640 I eat Chinese food and drive a Japanese car.

00:24:29.720 But I'm not pretending I'm part of the experience of descendants of American slaves just to get some weird clout.

00:24:35.260 But the weird thing, the extra weird thing, is it's the same over at the Toronto Star, by the way.

00:24:41.880 They have a professional full-time race huckster over there called Sri Paradkar.

00:24:48.580 It's literally all she writes about.

00:24:50.660 She is paid to call Canadians racist every time.

00:24:54.900 It's her beat.

00:24:56.120 She's been in overdrive these past few weeks about black civil rights in America.

00:24:59.480 But how do I put this gently?

00:25:01.680 She's not black. 0.97

00:25:05.920 She's not American. 1.00

00:25:07.620 And she just came here, too, judging by her accent.

00:25:11.460 So say, you know what?

00:25:12.600 There's a couple people that are bad.

00:25:14.260 We'll never root it out.

00:25:15.180 But there's no institutionalized systemic racism, certainly not in Quebec.

00:25:19.480 What do you make of that?

00:25:20.200 My first thought was, well, here is another white guy in power telling us that racism doesn't exist.

00:25:28.480 Right.

00:25:28.700 And I don't know based on what he says it.

00:25:32.160 I just it made me sad because I wish we moved away from this framing of does racism exist to what are we going to do about it?

00:25:40.780 Because I feel like in so many ways, this denial of racism is a denial of basic dignity, particularly of black and First Nations, Métis and Inuit people.

00:25:52.580 Do you think she's ever lived in Quebec that she even speaks French?

00:25:58.220 I mean, she's still working on her English, sounds like.

00:26:00.920 Hey, as the saying goes, if someone has an accent, that means they speak one more language than you do.

00:26:05.820 So good for her for learning English so well, better than I know any other language.

00:26:09.800 But for her to condemn the entire province of Quebec as racist.

00:26:15.440 Yeah, no.

00:26:17.000 I love that little flourish at the end.

00:26:19.000 She has appointed herself as the spokesman for black people and aboriginal people.

00:26:22.900 And I didn't catch her whole list.

00:26:24.880 Maybe she might talk about the racism of India's caste system if she's bored, you know, lived experience stuff.

00:26:31.300 But that might take some introspection rather than smearing the country that has welcomed her and given her such privileges.

00:26:38.740 These people are such ingrates.

00:26:41.600 Who would move to a country to call its people racist for a living?

00:26:46.360 If you think it's a racist, why did you hear?

00:26:48.500 I kid you not.

00:26:49.520 That is her job description.

00:26:50.700 But you heard her.

00:26:51.400 She really said it.

00:26:52.460 If you deny you're racist, that is proof you're racist.

00:26:55.840 I think that's how you used to work with witches. 0.98

00:26:57.800 I think if you threw them into the water, only a witch would float. 1.00

00:27:02.440 If someone wasn't a witch, they would drown. 0.96

00:27:06.560 Denial of racism demands no change, no accountability.

00:27:10.000 It is complicity.

00:27:11.120 Really.

00:27:11.860 See, I wonder if that applies to her.

00:27:14.360 I'm just kidding.

00:27:15.060 Of course, she's racist. 1.00

00:27:16.220 Like Van Malen's Supermaniam.

00:27:18.100 It's essential that she attacks people for being white. 0.99

00:27:21.540 That's not racist, you see.

00:27:23.140 But not being racist is racist, you see.

00:27:26.380 Here's a race journalist at the Globe and Mail.

00:27:29.320 Again, seriously, that is her beat.

00:27:32.180 Dakhshana Bhaskaramurdi.

00:27:34.980 Also a Tamil name, I think.

00:27:36.940 She writes,

00:27:38.500 Was so happy to see Van Malen write this biting evisceration of that terrible Rex Murphy column.

00:27:44.660 But why did she, one of the only racialized National Post writers, have to do it?

00:27:49.340 Would have been nice to see one of her white colleagues stick their neck out instead. 1.00

00:27:54.420 Well, Dakhshana, didn't you read the column?

00:27:56.380 White people are not allowed to talk about race. 0.88

00:27:58.940 Especially, especially old white men. 0.69

00:28:01.380 Let me read to you that part of Van Malen's column again.

00:28:05.100 It is perhaps too obvious to state that someone who has absolutely no lived experience of racism,

00:28:10.240 discrimination, bigotry, who has never been anything other than accepted,

00:28:13.640 who has clearly no interest in really understanding race issues in this country

00:28:17.000 beyond performative potitudes and slogans pushed forward by corporate institutions

00:28:21.480 and the political class should not be weighing in on the subject of racism.

00:28:24.700 So shut up, white people, about race. 0.99

00:28:27.240 You can't weigh in on the subject of race either way.

00:28:30.600 Oh, but you're racist if you don't weigh in on the subject of race.

00:28:33.360 And you're racist if you're not a racist.

00:28:35.000 Look, I want to tell you, I really admire people from India and from Sri Lanka.

00:28:41.740 I don't want to stereotype, but I think people from India are often very smart

00:28:47.280 and industrious and successful and extremely hardworking, very studious, excellent students.

00:28:52.980 I think it's okay to stereotype people for admirable qualities.

00:28:57.220 I hope you agree, because I'm sort of a fan of people from India.

00:29:01.060 And every Tamil I know is a wonderful person.

00:29:03.600 I'm just telling you my biases.

00:29:05.480 In both Canada and the United States, you know, we collect census data on people based on race.

00:29:10.460 Did you know that?

00:29:11.960 In the United States, it's quite detailed.

00:29:15.420 In North America, it's pretty much the same in both Canada and the United States.

00:29:19.040 In North America, did you know that Asians make more money than any other race does? 1.00

00:29:24.320 Double what black people earn on average. 1.00

00:29:27.180 And amongst Asian people, obviously Asia is a big continent,

00:29:31.520 Indian Americans and Indo-Canadians have a higher household income than any other Asian group.

00:29:40.680 Just way, way, way ahead of everyone else.

00:29:43.780 Tamils, too.

00:29:44.500 So my point is, you're not black. 0.99

00:29:50.300 You were never a slave or a descendant of slaves.

00:29:53.660 You're rich.

00:29:56.020 The average Indo-Canadian is a lot richer, by the way, than the average Newfoundlander.

00:30:03.780 So what's going on here?

00:30:06.740 This isn't about legitimate grievances.

00:30:09.940 This is about racism.

00:30:11.740 It's about the left using racism to silence their own enemies and to get rich, I think.

00:30:18.620 There's actually no one more privileged in Canada than Indo-Canadians and Tamils.

00:30:24.300 And I think that's great.

00:30:25.720 I'm so glad Canada is a good match for the intelligence and entrepreneurial spirit of so many people.

00:30:32.480 But stop pretending that you're a victim.

00:30:35.620 Stop pretending that this country is racist.

00:30:37.560 It's actually being far better to you than your home country.

00:30:42.480 And can you do me a favor?

00:30:43.860 Can you stop pretending that you're black? 1.00

00:30:49.240 Vanella Subramaniam just can't stop running y'all and pretending she's some ghetto gangster with rapper street crab. 1.00

00:30:57.260 What are you doing?

00:30:58.560 You're a rich Tamil girl. 0.99

00:31:00.940 Do a victory lap.

00:31:02.460 You won the lottery in life.

00:31:04.380 I mean, take it from Dakshana and some other rich grievance mongers just profiteering here in this bizarre video produced by the Globe and Mail.

00:31:14.620 Listen to these guys.

00:31:16.500 Cultural appropriation is theft.

00:31:19.380 Theft.

00:31:20.220 Theft.

00:31:20.760 Yeah, guys, stop stealing from George Floyd, okay?

00:31:25.840 It's not always about you.

00:31:28.560 We know you like calling people names.

00:31:30.580 But can you stop using dead American black men to promote your own Canadian careers as scolds? 0.83

00:31:41.260 And if you want to take a run at Rex Murphy, try criticizing his arguments.

00:31:46.040 Not his skin color, you racists.

00:31:52.120 Stay with us for more.

00:32:05.120 Well, the other day when we had a barber here, I invited my friend Tarek Fata, who I knew needed a haircut, to come and get his haircut, too.

00:32:13.560 And while he was here, I said, well, now that you look so sharp, let's sit down and have a catch-up.

00:32:18.140 So this is a conversation Tarek Fata and I had on Tuesday.

00:32:22.160 And you know, with Tarek, you never know where the conversation's going to go.

00:32:25.200 But he's such a hoot.

00:32:26.140 Take a look.

00:32:27.080 Hey, welcome back.

00:32:27.900 You know, I got a phone call from my old friend Tarek Fata the other day.

00:32:31.680 And we started to banter.

00:32:32.940 I said, hey, come on in for a haircut.

00:32:35.060 Because we've got black market haircuts going on here at Rebel Headquarters.

00:32:38.860 And then we had a nice lunch and I said, Tarek, instead of you and I just having a private conversation, I know a lot of our viewers love to hear what you're up to.

00:32:47.340 Because you're up to hear so many things.

00:32:48.860 Go ahead.

00:32:49.440 I paid you under the table.

00:32:51.080 Well, it was a free haircut.

00:32:52.780 It was a free haircut from us.

00:32:54.260 Oh, okay, okay.

00:32:54.720 If you insist.

00:32:55.720 You know what?

00:32:56.200 It's just so nice to see you and to see other human beings in person.

00:33:00.580 I think we're all sort of missing a little bit of that social contact.

00:33:04.120 I know.

00:33:04.500 So give us an update.

00:33:05.640 It's been months.

00:33:06.380 I don't even think I've seen you this year.

00:33:08.560 Last time we talked, you had a very hit show in India.

00:33:12.660 You were talking about India and Pakistan and Canada and America.

00:33:15.460 Give us an update.

00:33:16.180 What have you been up to?

00:33:16.860 Well, I was in India till end of January.

00:33:23.980 I knew this was coming because the coronavirus thing was coming up because suddenly I saw masks being sold in New Delhi.

00:33:35.640 And this was early, mid-January.

00:33:39.880 And in India, we thought it was just a Chinese thing happening over there.

00:33:44.760 And people were talking about, oh, this is what happens when you eat animals and it's crossed over.

00:33:50.300 Nobody thought at that time that this is.

00:33:53.760 So, I came here February 3rd.

00:33:56.880 I had my appointment with my cancer doctor.

00:34:02.260 And it hit us.

00:34:04.140 After a week, there were no flights out of India.

00:34:07.400 I would have been stuck there.

00:34:08.840 And I had gone there to do a series of shows.

00:34:12.500 Fata Kha Fatwa?

00:34:14.060 Or is there another one?

00:34:14.800 No, this is What the Fata?

00:34:18.020 That's such a...

00:34:18.720 There's so many fun titles you can have with your name, but you have to pronounce them very carefully.

00:34:23.600 I had recorded about 30 shows, gave it to them and flew out.

00:34:30.080 But many of them become redundant because the world changed.

00:34:34.280 Yeah.

00:34:34.820 And I said...

00:34:35.280 What TV station is this for?

00:34:37.480 Is this for a big channel in India?

00:34:38.840 This is the New Delhi Times trying to reach out through changing the print edition into a web magazine around the world.

00:34:48.560 Fair enough.

00:34:48.960 That's what we do here.

00:34:49.960 Yeah.

00:34:50.600 So...

00:34:51.200 And is it in English or a different language?

00:34:53.820 It's in English.

00:34:54.580 Yeah.

00:34:54.820 The New Delhi Times is in English.

00:34:55.720 And have they started to put them up yet?

00:34:57.220 Yes, they are.

00:34:58.260 And that's the New Delhi Times.

00:34:59.640 New Delhi Times on YouTube.

00:35:01.300 And people started listening to it because, first of all, it was in English and Hindi as well.

00:35:10.300 And we touched on issues that were specific to Indian society.

00:35:16.980 For example, arranged marriages.

00:35:18.460 And I had fun...

00:35:20.020 Asking...

00:35:21.020 Calling people up and said, can I, you know...

00:35:26.100 Make an arrangement?

00:35:26.760 You're a matchmaker? 1.00

00:35:28.060 No, no, no, no.

00:35:28.740 Because it would be...

00:35:29.740 Fair and lovely girl needs...

00:35:32.740 Mitch...

00:35:33.740 You know, like, well-placed Canadian or American.

00:35:37.900 Well, you're a well-placed Canadian.

00:35:39.720 And I said, I'm Muslim.

00:35:41.640 I can have three more, you know.

00:35:43.500 That's how you're going to say your wife might have an objection to that.

00:35:46.720 But it was...

00:35:48.400 The point was, Indians are so introvert. 1.00

00:35:53.000 You know, in 10,000 years, Indians have never invaded any other country.

00:35:56.900 Ever.

00:35:58.180 Like, they are so happy with themselves laid back.

00:36:01.780 Well, I remember you said India is like a whole world.

00:36:04.180 I mean, there's more than a billion people.

00:36:05.960 And the diversity...

00:36:06.440 I've never been, but some of us have been.

00:36:07.620 Oh, you should.

00:36:08.580 The diversity of city...

00:36:10.140 What are the cities you like to go to in India?

00:36:13.140 The south.

00:36:14.640 Delhi is a symbol for me of the plundering of India. 1.00

00:36:19.080 Oh.

00:36:19.740 Because it had a Muslim identity, but one that had contempt for the native population. 1.00

00:36:30.320 And so, for example, the Indian Muslim is more likely to relish and portray...

00:36:38.580 Portray the invaders of India as the heroes. 0.99

00:36:42.600 Now, the Taj Mahal itself is a Muslim shrine, am I right?

00:36:46.580 Muslim, yes.

00:36:46.840 But made by Indian workers, Indian material, Indian river. 0.93

00:36:52.380 Remember, we forget everything and 200 years of the British too.

00:36:58.100 They were so mesmerized by the caliphates of Turkey and the...

00:37:02.380 For them, being a Hindu was... 0.98

00:37:05.060 It's just in India.

00:37:06.900 You don't have 15 Hindu countries.

00:37:09.360 Right.

00:37:09.760 Right.

00:37:10.260 The organization of Hindu countries.

00:37:12.160 Yeah, it's one person.

00:37:13.060 It's one guy.

00:37:14.080 What about Mumbai?

00:37:14.920 I've heard that's an amazing city.

00:37:16.320 It's...

00:37:16.800 Any place in India is worth visiting and observing.

00:37:24.120 Because there is humility.

00:37:27.380 There is color.

00:37:28.700 There is language.

00:37:30.120 There is nobody who says my language is superior than you.

00:37:33.660 The culture mixes is...

00:37:36.480 There is a naivety in which the Indian Hindu is still psychologically damaged from over a thousand years of occupation.

00:37:46.000 It's like white minority rule in South Africa. 0.84

00:37:49.440 So, the Muslims came, butchered the native Muslims, but the Muslims of India and Pakistan only honor those who plundered India. 1.00

00:37:59.680 They don't, for example, even know that Muhammad's family, Prophet Muhammad's family, had to take refuge in India under a Hindu king to save their lives.

00:38:12.800 So, we honor those who killed the Prophet's children and yet try to be Islamist. 0.99

00:38:19.620 How is India these days?

00:38:21.380 Because I know Donald Trump has focused on his personal rapport with Narendra Modi.

00:38:26.480 And they've both had rallies in each other's countries.

00:38:29.100 Is that just a political tit-for-tat?

00:38:34.220 Do you think they're genuinely friends?

00:38:36.020 Is America and India getting closer as a triangulation against China?

00:38:40.640 Well, Chinese jets are flying 35 kilometers from the Indian border.

00:38:45.260 Well, I heard there's an incursion.

00:38:46.860 An incursion into Indian territory.

00:38:49.480 Yes, yes, yes.

00:38:49.880 What's that all about?

00:38:50.780 China today is...

00:38:55.900 How should I put it in a mild...

00:39:00.240 I won't put it in a mild way.

00:39:01.980 Is the evil empire that is out to destroy Asian African countries of the dignity. 0.81

00:39:13.600 So, you talk to Vietnamese or you talk to Indians, you talk to Zambians, Eritreans.

00:39:18.840 Everywhere that China has gone, by investing money and bringing their own workers, who are usually prisoners. 0.98

00:39:31.220 Yeah, they're almost like indent...

00:39:32.740 No, no, it's a prison.

00:39:34.200 They actually are prisoners.

00:39:35.160 So, they shift their prisons.

00:39:36.900 I'm talking about Pakistan.

00:39:38.240 They shifted their prisons into what is Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.

00:39:43.180 And then they bid for contracts because their labor is free.

00:39:47.380 Yeah.

00:39:47.900 Huh.

00:39:48.460 Well, I'm shocked they haven't done that in Canada yet.

00:39:50.620 It wouldn't surprise me if they do very soon.

00:39:52.540 They are there.

00:39:53.160 Now, does India, does the Indian Prime Minister, does the Indian government, does the Indian media, does the Indian establishment regard China as a threat or an investor or a market?

00:40:08.080 This is the tragedy of corporate business and this is why I'm on the left all the time.

00:40:14.780 That the business community is least interested in the country they deal with.

00:40:20.080 This is the reality.

00:40:21.620 They're dazzled by China's money.

00:40:22.920 The new form of capitalism that has emerged after 1990 is, I don't give a damn about what happens to my country.

00:40:34.120 I'm interested in the share value that I get.

00:40:37.580 So, an Indian businessman who's invested in China or Chinese businessman who manufacture 80% of India's cell phones, they don't...

00:40:48.680 On the Chinese side, they are Chinese nationalists.

00:40:51.280 On the Indian side, it's not so.

00:40:54.460 Just like it's not so in how Zambia lost its sovereignty to China or Zimbabwe.

00:41:01.900 They've given loans and then the country can't pay back the loans so that they say, we'll take your city.

00:41:08.800 They've done it in Sri Lanka.

00:41:10.820 They've done it in Bangladesh.

00:41:11.920 It is the worst form of imperialism that is coming together with this notion that money can buy anything.

00:41:21.860 Now, imperialism is normally an insult directed at white Western European countries.

00:41:27.680 But I agree with you, imperialism today, I think it's in many ways a Chinese phenomenon. 0.94

00:41:35.480 It is.

00:41:35.840 Where are the decolonialists of the left criticizing Chinese imperialism?

00:41:41.960 This is very significant because the pro-Chinese left in India, for example, which is the only place that has Maoists.

00:41:53.920 The Chinese dumped Mao, but the Indian, pro-Chinese, it's called the Communist Party of India, Marxist-Leninist.

00:42:00.460 They are what are called the Naxals. 0.71

00:42:03.820 Naxalbari was a town where the supposed Maoist uprising had to take place, failed down.

00:42:11.320 But now Indian hardline urban rural guerrillas who are supposedly Maoist call themselves Naxalites.

00:42:22.740 And they have a very bizarre interest.

00:42:26.680 So, you have all these millionaire Marxists, the Greta types, you know, with expensive eyeglasses and who worry about the right of whales somewhere in the South Pacific.

00:42:43.800 Or how about, you know, gay birds. 0.93

00:42:49.860 You know, all things that have nothing to do with the working people.

00:42:52.680 So, suddenly they have taken over the left after 1990.

00:42:59.320 Places where Ed Broadbent used to win cannot elect a new democrat anymore.

00:43:05.600 So, that's in Canada.

00:43:06.640 So, I'm saying the same.

00:43:08.140 And it's the same in India.

00:43:08.940 It's the same in India. 0.94

00:43:09.940 The Communist Party of India that used to elect 40 to 50 members of parliament right across the country.

00:43:15.780 It used to form government in two states.

00:43:19.200 Kerala, which is the only Indian state with 100% literacy.

00:43:23.640 They speak the Malayali language.

00:43:25.280 A wonderful place, by the way.

00:43:27.380 And this is where the Jewish community, after the destruction of the first temple, settled over there.

00:43:35.000 So, you have synagogues there as well.

00:43:37.600 You should go there.

00:43:38.280 All these places, the CPI or the CPM had, and in West Bengal, which is now almost an Islamist government over there.

00:43:52.480 Because the chief minister over there supports all anti-Indian Islamist parties from India's city of Calcutta.

00:44:02.560 It's shocking sometimes because nobody is analyzing that the world's economy has changed.

00:44:10.620 And therefore, what you're studying about how to end poverty, how will it happen?

00:44:16.260 How will we make sure that decent wages?

00:44:19.120 Now, of course, if there is no place to go to employment, the question of decent wages doesn't come.

00:44:25.620 So, we haven't on the left come at a place where we could study economics.

00:44:31.620 We've ended up with gay rights.

00:44:34.040 We've ended up with feminism. 1.00

00:44:36.960 We've ended up with green, you know, greening of the earth and all that.

00:44:43.360 And as I said, nobody in Oshawa wants to talk about that issue.

00:44:47.880 Yeah, I remember when Donald Trump went very quickly.

00:44:50.760 This was right before the virus.

00:44:53.920 Yes.

00:44:54.420 He went to, I think it was called Namaste Trump.

00:44:56.860 Yes.

00:44:57.160 It was a huge rally.

00:44:58.760 Yeah, but it was sabotaged.

00:45:00.340 How was it sabotaged?

00:45:01.560 It was sabotaged by the Islamists. 0.98

00:45:03.540 How was it sabotaged?

00:45:04.100 The day Mr. Trump was there, they had an all-out riot in the capital.

00:45:10.240 I remember that now.

00:45:11.420 And they, now try to imagine how sometimes I consider even Indian politicians too dumb to 0.98

00:45:19.060 understand the threat they face.

00:45:20.480 So, Donald Trump is there, Mr. Modi is there.

00:45:25.420 You would think that any Indian would be pleased that this is taking place. 1.00

00:45:30.240 Guess what?

00:45:30.760 Right in the heart of Delhi is an institute called the University, I'm translating it, the University

00:45:40.020 of the Islamic State.

00:45:41.780 And right on top of it, it's written Allahu Akbar, which is not the case in Islamic universities.

00:45:49.620 Islamic universities have Rabbe Zanni Ilma, which means, oh God, let me study or make me 1.00

00:45:56.020 educated.

00:45:56.520 This particular university has the war cry.

00:46:00.440 And over here, an Islamic institute starts a protest that we want secularism in India.

00:46:10.560 I don't get it.

00:46:12.400 Nobody gets it because everybody is after money.

00:46:15.460 That's the point.

00:46:16.840 Either someone short selling, someone's trying to make, someone's trying to get an MBA.

00:46:21.160 There used to be a term in our communist circles called the whole timer.

00:46:27.640 That meant no matter what you did, you'll just get 100 rupees a month.

00:46:31.420 You'll dedicate your life to working because you're educated for the poor.

00:46:36.420 I can bet you every one of them is a millionaire today who talks about, oh, you know, trying red wine.

00:46:46.720 I didn't think about it that, I mean, I don't know my history of India that well,

00:46:50.760 but when you say India has never invaded another country, I can't think of a counterpoint to that.

00:46:56.920 So it rings true. 0.97

00:46:58.240 So no war.

00:47:00.340 No war. 0.70

00:47:01.300 Within, there are wars within.

00:47:02.960 Sure.

00:47:03.400 Yeah.

00:47:03.940 Lots of English speaking.

00:47:05.720 I mean, of course, the British legacy, a lot of...

00:47:09.700 It's the common language.

00:47:11.040 Yeah, common language of English.

00:47:12.820 Rule of law, bureaucracy for all its flaws is better than a monarchy.

00:47:17.580 I could cut away about 100,000 of them.

00:47:19.900 Sure.

00:47:20.260 And we'd function better.

00:47:21.480 But at least there's some process in the rule.

00:47:24.080 It is the only democracy in the developing world.

00:47:26.800 And it's the largest democracy in the world.

00:47:28.360 So the way I think of it is going through...

00:47:30.200 And it's...

00:47:31.220 It's third.

00:47:32.120 It's an ally of Canada.

00:47:34.840 It's a counterweight to China. 0.97

00:47:36.680 It is Canada's number one ally.

00:47:39.760 And yet we have cabinet ministers.

00:47:41.580 Are we acting like it?

00:47:42.480 I mean, true old acts like China's his number one ally.

00:47:45.220 Because he's got Khalistanis in his cabinet. 0.96

00:47:48.600 Oh, so you're saying the Sikh extremism...

00:47:51.200 Not just Sikh extremists.

00:47:53.000 Islamists.

00:47:54.200 The M-103 people. 0.98

00:47:55.480 Those are all people who don't like India.

00:47:57.280 And they're...

00:47:57.540 This is the Pakistan embassy working in Canada.

00:47:59.780 Very interesting.

00:48:00.360 You've got Khalistan, Islamism. 1.00

00:48:02.760 Well, I tell you, Tarek, you're welcome to come and hang out in our barbershop any time.

00:48:06.240 Any time, my God.

00:48:06.920 This is good barbershop talk.

00:48:09.240 Tarek, it's so good to see you.

00:48:10.700 And this is post-haircut trend.

00:48:13.340 Look, I'm looking good, man.

00:48:15.080 Come on.

00:48:16.060 Well, it's great to see you again, my friend.

00:48:17.440 Good to see you, man.

00:48:18.440 Are we supposed to shake hands?

00:48:20.120 You know what we're doing around here?

00:48:21.120 How about do it again?

00:48:22.000 We're shaking hands around here.

00:48:23.460 You know, as far as I'm concerned, the pandemic is over.

00:48:27.000 Thank God.

00:48:27.740 It's great to see you, my friend.

00:48:29.320 Come by any time for a haircut or for lunch.

00:48:31.580 Okay.

00:48:31.940 And it's good to talk about the world and to talk about places that we don't think about often enough.

00:48:37.760 And India is certainly a place to keep an eye on.

00:48:40.320 Great to see you.

00:48:41.040 Take care.

00:48:41.540 All right.

00:48:41.820 There you have it.

00:48:42.840 Tarek Fata.

00:48:43.320 We'll have to keep an eye peeled for what the fuck is...

00:48:47.180 I got to look that up on YouTube.

00:48:49.380 I'd like to see some of those episodes.

00:48:51.040 Stay with us for a little bit more.

00:48:52.360 Welcome back.

00:49:01.400 On my interview yesterday with Professor Philip Slayton about the state of freedom in Canada,

00:49:05.140 Barb writes,

00:49:06.560 I enjoyed this discussion for two reasons.

00:49:08.480 First, I believe strongly in free speech, but who doesn't?

00:49:11.780 Also because you and the professor disagree on global warming but manage to have a civilized conversation anyway.

00:49:16.240 I'm so fed up with the notion that we have to shut down and shout down any opposing thoughts and beliefs.

00:49:20.880 Yeah, you know, you're so right.

00:49:22.660 And I didn't want to really burrow into the global warming thing because that was sort of a tangent and we went long as it was.

00:49:29.080 But yeah, absolutely.

00:49:30.240 He wasn't saying ban him, you know.

00:49:33.220 He's the old school true liberal in the old meaning of the word.

00:49:35.980 Alas, there's so few people like that.

00:49:38.960 Sherry writes,

00:49:39.920 Very entertaining interview.

00:49:41.180 It felt like the two of you could have gone for hours.

00:49:43.660 A breath of fresh air after learning that the liberals wanting to censor the internet again.

00:49:48.700 You're so right.

00:49:49.540 And I hope this book gets a lot of play.

00:49:51.820 And I've emailed that video out to our subscribers, our broader group.

00:49:56.960 We put it on YouTube and I emailed it out to our broader list.

00:49:59.540 So hopefully people will see it.

00:50:01.960 John writes,

00:50:02.720 Very warm conversation.

00:50:04.060 Wouldn't it be nice if our PM could sit down and have a civil conversation with Canadians instead of calling us racist?

00:50:09.260 Instead, we have to be mocked by his paid off media party.

00:50:11.980 Yeah, you know, the idea of talking to someone that makes you a little bit uncomfortable.

00:50:16.480 I think that's okay.

00:50:18.500 I think that's real life, by the way.

00:50:20.440 But apparently in politics, you're not allowed to do it.

00:50:23.280 Well, that's our show for today.

00:50:24.400 What do you think about my Rex Murphy talk?

00:50:26.160 I like people from India.

00:50:27.640 And I like Tamils.

00:50:28.700 I don't.

00:50:29.220 I grew up in Calgary.

00:50:29.840 There wasn't a large Tamil population back there in the 70s and 80s.

00:50:32.920 But these are successful Canadians, Indo-Canadians by far, the most successful group economically.

00:50:40.880 I just don't get it why people who won the lottery in life, successful, wealthy, no barriers in front of them at all,

00:50:50.560 are trying to appropriate American black crises to promote their media careers in Canada when they're not black. 0.72

00:51:00.140 I find that pretty weird.

00:51:02.340 Sort of a Rachel Dolezal thing, don't you think?

00:51:06.220 All right, that's the show for today.

00:51:07.400 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:51:10.720 do you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

00:51:13.280 We'll see you next time.

Rebel News Podcast - June 06, 2020

Rex Murphy says Canada isn’t racist — but some racists disagree!

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