Rebel News Podcast - November 22, 2018


Saudi Arabia allegedly murders a Muslim Brotherhood activist in Turkey. How much should we care？


Episode Stats

Length

42 minutes

Words per Minute

163.7475

Word Count

6,912

Sentence Count

540

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

51


Summary

Jamal Khashoggi was a journalist, a propagandist for the Muslim Brotherhood, and a friend of Osama bin Laden. He was also a member of the Saudi royal family, and was an associate of some of the most dangerous people in the world.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Saudi Arabia allegedly murders a Muslim Brotherhood activist in Turkey.
00:00:05.840 How much should we care?
00:00:07.760 It's November 21st, and this is The Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:16.520 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:20.380 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:24.080 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
00:00:27.080 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my
00:00:32.100 bloody right to do so.
00:00:37.820 This is Jamal Khashoggi.
00:00:40.680 He's a Saudi born in Saudi Arabia.
00:00:43.620 He was also killed by Saudis at the Saudi consulate in Turkey.
00:00:48.700 This is footage of him walking in.
00:00:51.740 He was carried out in parts.
00:00:53.480 It was really macabre.
00:00:54.640 It was murder, of course.
00:00:56.760 Saudis do that a lot, and so do the Turks, by the way.
00:01:00.080 I'll get back to that.
00:01:00.960 I have a question for you.
00:01:02.540 How much should you and I care about this?
00:01:05.800 Because a lot of important people say we have to care a lot, including Justin Trudeau, who
00:01:10.980 says he wants answers.
00:01:14.600 And Chrystia Freeland, our foreign minister who loves quarreling with the Saudis, here's
00:01:18.980 her statement.
00:01:19.960 She calls the murder heartbreaking.
00:01:21.920 I suppose every death is heartbreaking and every murder is an outrage, but let me tell
00:01:27.360 you some facts, and then I'll ask you for your opinion again in a moment.
00:01:31.560 So Jamal Khashoggi, prominent family.
00:01:34.460 I don't know if you remember that name, but his family, his grandfather was actually a Turk,
00:01:39.780 came to Saudi Arabia to be the personal doctor of King Saud, as in the dictator after whom the
00:01:46.020 whole country is named.
00:01:47.100 So it's a rich, connected family.
00:01:49.840 If you're old enough like me, you might remember this guy named Adnan Khashoggi.
00:01:56.580 He was a Saudi billionaire and an arms dealer who was involved in a complicated scheme to
00:02:01.320 sell arms to Iran to free American hostages and buy weapons for right-wing Contra rebels
00:02:08.380 in Nicaragua.
00:02:09.220 That was a hell of a scheme.
00:02:10.500 So that's Jamal's uncle, a billionaire.
00:02:13.800 You might have heard of Dodi Fayyad.
00:02:15.640 He was a billionaire, too.
00:02:17.420 And Princess Diana's boyfriend.
00:02:20.580 In fact, they died together that night in the car crash in Paris as they were being chased
00:02:24.860 by paparazzi.
00:02:25.800 He's Jamal Khashoggi's cousin.
00:02:29.000 So Jamal Khashoggi comes from a billionaire family with plenty of intrigue and connections
00:02:34.520 and money, and I'm not going to call it poor judgment, their family.
00:02:40.360 I'm going to call it extreme judgment.
00:02:42.580 I mean, they seem to be pretty successful to me, the whole billionaire part, the whole
00:02:46.460 dating a princess part.
00:02:48.940 I just don't know how many mere mortals amongst us could be arms dealers and rogues like that,
00:02:53.840 or in the case of Jamal Khashoggi, an actual friend of Osama bin Laden and a propagandist
00:03:00.020 for the Muslim Brotherhood pro-terrorist network.
00:03:03.640 Here's Jamal Khashoggi as a younger man.
00:03:07.100 That's him in the middle, and he wrote this story, too.
00:03:09.680 This is exactly 30 years ago, 1988, in Afghanistan.
00:03:13.460 He's with Osama bin Laden's crew and another al-Qaeda founder named Abdullah Azzam, and that's
00:03:20.960 him holding the rocket-propelled grenade.
00:03:24.940 Here's another picture of him.
00:03:25.940 This was in the New York Times.
00:03:28.980 That's Khashoggi holding what I think is an AK-47.
00:03:33.740 So yeah, pretty friendly with the terrorist types, as a lot of Saudis are, and of course
00:03:39.040 there are terrorists who want to topple Saudi Arabia, too, and there are terrorists funded
00:03:43.160 by Saudi Arabia, and I suppose there are terrorists who are both funded by Saudi Arabia and want
00:03:47.320 to topple Saudi Arabia.
00:03:48.680 Osama bin Laden himself came from a wealthy Saudi family.
00:03:53.480 It's a pretty awful country, and Jamal Khashoggi was an associate of the worst of them, and
00:03:59.360 you could say of the best of them, too.
00:04:01.040 But he didn't just carry RPGs and guns.
00:04:05.000 He was a journalist, too.
00:04:07.080 I showed you that piece he wrote from the terrorists in 1988.
00:04:09.920 I think a propagandist might be a more accurate description.
00:04:13.660 He was on a mission.
00:04:15.060 Hey, I'm on a mission, too, with my journalism, but I'm just a conservative.
00:04:19.080 I'm a Democrat.
00:04:20.120 I have peaceful ideas.
00:04:21.160 I don't blow things up.
00:04:23.300 Khashoggi's friends did.
00:04:24.600 He was an avid recruit to something called the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:04:27.760 That's the worldwide Islamist network that has sharp terrorists in places like Hamas, but
00:04:33.920 it has many more slow and steady Islamists in the establishment around the world, working
00:04:39.060 on the soft jihad through politics and business and diplomacy.
00:04:42.280 Khashoggi seemed to be a bit in both worlds.
00:04:45.200 Like I say, his family likes to live dangerously.
00:04:47.900 He was not an American citizen.
00:04:49.980 He was not even a permanent resident of the United States.
00:04:53.040 He did not have a green card, as some foreigners do.
00:04:56.280 He was as American as I am, which is to say, not at all.
00:04:59.560 But he had a column at Jeff Bezos's Washington Post newspaper where he would say what you'd
00:05:06.660 expect him to say.
00:05:07.560 Here's a column from him just a couple of months ago.
00:05:10.440 It's from August.
00:05:12.200 The U.S. is wrong about the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Arab world is suffering for it.
00:05:17.020 Yeah, pretty blunt, pretty honest.
00:05:19.960 I guess you got to like that about him.
00:05:21.300 He just didn't hide the fact that he loved him, the terrorism.
00:05:24.500 Look at that.
00:05:24.980 Look at that picture.
00:05:26.320 I love that friendly picture of him in the corner there.
00:05:28.800 He's no dummy.
00:05:30.320 Americans might not be so willing to take advice on, you know, terrorist groups from
00:05:34.660 a guy holding a grenade launcher.
00:05:36.720 So pretend he likes baseball or whatever that hat is.
00:05:39.860 Yeah, it looks a friendly fella there.
00:05:41.520 It looks like, I don't know, that kid singer Rafi.
00:05:44.000 Maybe he'll sing a little song.
00:05:46.520 So that's what he would publish in English in America when he makes himself look friendly
00:05:51.060 and acceptable to the West.
00:05:52.260 That cap is perfect.
00:05:54.500 He's still a propagandist for Islamists, of course.
00:05:56.820 Here's what he says to his Twitter audience, which is mainly people in Arabia.
00:06:02.060 He's got two million followers.
00:06:03.180 He's dead now, but when he was alive, look at this.
00:06:05.900 Dear USA, your 9-11 is our 24-7.
00:06:09.680 Sincerely, Palestine.
00:06:11.600 Yeah.
00:06:12.080 So I guess he's a journalist, but he's also a terrorist apologist and a critic of America
00:06:18.320 and a longtime member of a terrorist affiliation called the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:06:24.140 And he's a buddy of bin Laden.
00:06:25.620 So that's who he is.
00:06:26.400 And I'm not saying there aren't any nuances or gray areas in there.
00:06:29.940 But I really don't care about nuances.
00:06:32.640 He's not a lovely man.
00:06:35.140 And more to the point, he's not an American.
00:06:36.840 He's not a Canadian.
00:06:37.900 He's a Saudi who got offside with the Saudis and they lured him into the Saudi consulate
00:06:43.500 in Turkey and they murdered him.
00:06:45.740 And that's nasty.
00:06:46.840 But I think he's nasty.
00:06:50.500 And I know Turkey's nasty.
00:06:52.900 I think we're talking about a bunch of nasty people here.
00:06:56.560 Now, the BBC went through the details of the murder.
00:06:59.660 They did a great job in this story.
00:07:01.360 It's quite shocking.
00:07:02.640 A hit squad flying in on private jets.
00:07:07.520 Allegedly a recording of the sounds of the killing.
00:07:10.440 There was a claim that Khashoggi had his Apple watch on and recorded everything.
00:07:15.840 There was that story that even showed the flights of the private jets.
00:07:19.680 Anyways, but a recording has been shopped around by the Turks.
00:07:26.800 How would they have that recording?
00:07:29.480 But they say they do.
00:07:30.820 And the Turks gave that recording to spy agencies in the West, including to Canada and the United
00:07:35.760 States.
00:07:36.140 Here's what Trudeau and the state broadcaster here says.
00:07:40.800 Trudeau, Erdogan speak.
00:07:42.300 I think the shared audio is the latest move by Turkey to maintain international pressure
00:07:48.000 on Saudi Arabia over the killing.
00:07:51.520 Trudeau said he brought the subject up during a recent phone call with Turkish President Recep
00:07:56.740 Erdogan.
00:07:57.560 And briefly, again, when the two met on the weekend in Paris, Trudeau said he thanked Erdogan
00:08:02.400 for his strength in responding to the Khashoggi situation.
00:08:08.060 Now, I'm not pro-murder.
00:08:10.320 If someone is a terrorist, kill him in the field.
00:08:13.500 But if he's just a terrorist apologist in the streets, you can charge him with a crime.
00:08:18.420 Deport him.
00:08:20.040 You don't lure him into a building and murder him.
00:08:22.760 But Turkey and Erdogan in particular, I mean, I guess technically Erdogan was elected president
00:08:29.440 and technically Turkey is still a part of NATO for some reason I don't understand.
00:08:34.220 But Turkey happens to be the world's greatest imprisoner of journalists, too.
00:08:38.980 And they do plenty of murder, too.
00:08:41.300 They have more prisoners in prison than even China does, if you can believe it.
00:08:47.740 Even more than North Korea or Iran do.
00:08:51.160 Erdogan is not quite as bad a tyrant as the Saudis are, I don't think.
00:08:55.700 But he sure is trying to catch up.
00:08:57.440 And they're both murderous regimes.
00:09:00.900 But again, why should Canadians care?
00:09:05.740 There's 7 billion people in the world.
00:09:07.560 Why do we care about him?
00:09:09.080 Why should America care?
00:09:11.660 Because it's spectacular news.
00:09:14.000 A dramatic hit squad.
00:09:15.640 A crazy story about being hacked up in a consulate and carried out in parts.
00:09:19.940 That's crazy.
00:09:20.760 That's gross.
00:09:22.040 Sure, it's journalistically interesting.
00:09:23.960 But I'm sorry.
00:09:25.400 That actually happens all the time in the worst places in the world.
00:09:28.320 And Turkey and Saudi Arabia have a feud.
00:09:30.760 It's religious.
00:09:31.380 It's political.
00:09:31.880 It's cultural.
00:09:32.360 It's historical.
00:09:33.220 It's about regional power, regional power, whatever.
00:09:35.940 And this guy Khashoggi was in the middle of it.
00:09:38.720 How is that something for Canada or America to weigh in about again?
00:09:44.180 If Khashoggi were a citizen of Canada or America, you bet.
00:09:48.680 We have to defend our citizens around the world.
00:09:51.040 Funny that Trudeau doesn't actually do that for citizens, though.
00:09:55.560 He doesn't help Canadian citizens who are held hostage by Muslim terrorists.
00:10:00.540 He let them be killed.
00:10:02.600 There are Canadian citizens rotting in prison in China right now on trumped up charges.
00:10:06.820 Do you think Trudeau even mentioned the name Hussein Salil when he was in China meeting his dictator friends?
00:10:14.400 There's a Canadian woman, as you know, who was raped and then murdered in Iran.
00:10:18.400 And yet Trudeau wants to reestablish diplomatic ties with them.
00:10:22.400 Those are all Canadians I'm talking about.
00:10:24.440 But some Saudi activist who hung out with bin Laden is killed in Turkey by Saudi Arabia.
00:10:31.480 And I know that's sad for his family.
00:10:34.180 And maybe it's even sad for the world, but I don't quite see it.
00:10:37.900 But why is that a political thing for Canada's prime minister to call up the president of Turkey?
00:10:41.820 What's the connection to us?
00:10:44.580 Because he wrote a column for the Washington Post.
00:10:46.740 So what?
00:10:48.480 Listen, I'm happy to quarrel with the Saudis.
00:10:50.680 You may know that I wrote a book with a chapter to that effect.
00:10:53.840 It's called Ethical Oil.
00:10:55.220 I say let's cut off Saudi oil imports to Canada by replacing their conflict oil with Canadian ethical oil.
00:11:02.140 Let's build a pipeline from Alberta to the east.
00:11:04.340 Turn off the taps from Saudi.
00:11:05.980 That's been my view for a decade.
00:11:08.800 Now, to Trudeau, it's better to virtue signal over some foreign symbol than defend our own national interests
00:11:14.320 and actually hurt Saudi Arabia financially.
00:11:16.560 We want to hurt Saudi Arabia.
00:11:17.540 Cut off their oil sales to us.
00:11:19.560 By Canadian instead.
00:11:22.280 So, yeah, don't take Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland seriously on Saudi Arabia.
00:11:25.500 Of course you wouldn't.
00:11:26.220 I mean, if they were serious about hurting Saudi Arabia, if they really cared,
00:11:30.740 they would cut off oil imports and they'd cancel that huge arms deal.
00:11:35.220 They're actually selling Saudi Arabia the tools to kill.
00:11:39.040 Look at this headline.
00:11:40.300 Trudeau holds out option of canceling arms sale to Saudi Arabia over journalists killing.
00:11:45.320 And then that sub-headline, we have frozen export permits before.
00:11:49.580 We will, I can't even say without laughing, we will not hesitate to do so again, says PM.
00:11:54.840 Really?
00:11:55.940 Do you really think Trudeau would cancel a billion dollar arms sale?
00:12:01.120 No, I don't think so.
00:12:04.420 He actually loves Saudi Arabia too much.
00:12:06.200 He just wants to be flirty with the idea on TV.
00:12:08.700 He knows Khashoggi is somehow cool these days, so he really wants to seem woke.
00:12:14.000 He'll do nothing.
00:12:15.120 He never will.
00:12:15.920 He never has.
00:12:16.420 And then there's Donald Trump.
00:12:18.820 See, Trump is a grown-up.
00:12:19.960 You might not like him, but he's a grown-up.
00:12:21.780 And America is a grown-up country.
00:12:23.760 And Saudi Arabia, that awful, bigoted, racist, terror-supporting OPEC dictatorship,
00:12:29.540 Saudi Arabia is an important country.
00:12:32.420 Economically, it produces about 10 million barrels of oil a day.
00:12:36.020 And they have the ability and the willingness to create price shocks by cutting off or ramping
00:12:42.260 up supplies.
00:12:42.940 So that's actually important to the whole world.
00:12:46.660 And Saudi Arabia has money and influence in the region.
00:12:49.420 And it is a counterweight to Iran, Sunni versus Shia.
00:12:53.880 And Saudi Arabia could possibly be part of a regional peace deal with Israel.
00:12:58.120 Could be, I don't know, the very first trip that Donald Trump went to as president back
00:13:02.260 in May of 2017 was to Saudi Arabia.
00:13:05.240 What do you think of that?
00:13:06.400 The first.
00:13:07.360 Not to Mexico.
00:13:08.340 Not to Canada.
00:13:10.020 To Saudi Arabia.
00:13:10.720 And then he went to Jerusalem, and then he went to Rome, including the Vatican.
00:13:13.720 Do you remember that?
00:13:14.320 The three great monotheistic religions.
00:13:16.940 But he went to Saudi Arabia first.
00:13:18.400 He whipped them hard and publicly on terrorism.
00:13:23.300 So Mr. Blunt speaking truth teller, Trump, do you remember what he said to the Saudis?
00:13:28.880 Listen.
00:13:29.080 But above all, we must be united in pursuing the one goal that transcends every other consideration.
00:13:38.460 That goal is to meet history's great test, to conquer extremism and vanquish the forces
00:13:46.180 that terrorism brings with it every single time.
00:13:51.240 Young Muslim boys and girls should be able to grow up free from fear, safe from violence,
00:13:59.300 and innocent of hatred.
00:14:01.740 When young Muslim men and women should have the chance to build a new era of prosperity for themselves,
00:14:10.020 it has to be done.
00:14:12.560 And we have to let them do it.
00:14:14.320 With God's help, this summit will mark the beginning of the end for those who practice terror
00:14:21.380 and spread its vile creed.
00:14:23.880 Yeah, that ain't Obama giving the speech, is it?
00:14:28.840 He started making demands of them.
00:14:30.080 And by the way, they were happy to do it.
00:14:31.400 They were just happy to have someone who didn't favor Iran like Barack Obama did.
00:14:36.540 And Muslim Brotherhood, Obama had the president of Egypt to pose for the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:14:43.320 Saudis are grateful to have Trump.
00:14:44.940 And Trump has been trying to use Saudi Arabia ever since for America's interests.
00:14:51.060 He presses them all the time, including on Twitter just today,
00:14:55.300 to lower the price of oil, to make life more affordable in America.
00:15:00.280 When's the last time you heard an American president do that so bluntly?
00:15:03.780 He presses Saudis to buy more American goods.
00:15:06.920 He presses the Saudis to stop quarreling with Israel.
00:15:09.840 He does it on Twitter, so it's weird, but he does it.
00:15:13.460 So do you think that Donald Trump would jeopardize all of his work with Saudi Arabia,
00:15:19.040 the low oil price, that's not great for Alberta, but it's great for America and the world,
00:15:25.340 the trade with Saudi Arabia, the regional counterweight to Iran,
00:15:28.300 the possibility of peace with Israel, because some Muslim Brotherhood journalist activist was killed?
00:15:33.980 I mean, I'm sorry it happened, I'm sure.
00:15:36.220 I mean, murder is not a good thing.
00:15:37.700 But if we were going to set foreign policy by how dictatorships treat their own citizens,
00:15:41.760 yeah, we'd have no embassies in China, Russia, half of Asia, most of Africa,
00:15:47.860 all the Muslim Middle East countries.
00:15:49.700 We just wouldn't even have a foreign affairs department, if that's what we did.
00:15:54.440 Is that really how foreign policy should be made?
00:15:57.720 Even Trudeau won't take tiny little baby steps.
00:16:00.320 He'll virtue signal, but he'll do nothing.
00:16:03.160 Trump has to be a grown-up, because someone has to be.
00:16:05.620 And so Trump was.
00:16:07.500 And he was grilled and questioned and pressed on the subject of Khashoggi.
00:16:11.820 And look, he sent his Secretary of State to Saudi Arabia about this subject.
00:16:17.140 And Trump himself personally spoke with the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.
00:16:21.460 But at the end of the day, sorry, no matter how mean,
00:16:26.600 no matter how barbaric Saudi Arabia was to their guy,
00:16:29.960 it just isn't the grown-up thing to do to wreck an entire regional alliance
00:16:34.800 because of one sad and horrific act.
00:16:37.920 And let me read to you Trump's statement in its full Trumpiness.
00:16:45.620 He put out a statement, and it's incredible.
00:16:50.160 And the left went nuts when Trump released this.
00:16:52.800 I think he released it last night.
00:16:53.740 I mean, how many presidential memos have eight exclamation points in the first starters?
00:17:01.420 But mainly, Trump does what he always do.
00:17:04.080 He speaks the unvarnished truth.
00:17:05.560 The same truth that every American and, by the way,
00:17:07.940 Canadian and British and French leader has spoken for decades.
00:17:10.540 But Trump did it more truthfully and with less diplomatic fibbing.
00:17:14.920 Okay, now I'm going to read so much to you, but you'll see why.
00:17:19.520 Okay, so this is going to take a few minutes.
00:17:21.080 But I promise you, you won't see this anywhere else.
00:17:24.600 And I promise you, you'll be shaking your head saying,
00:17:26.860 damn straight.
00:17:28.200 Okay, ready?
00:17:30.020 Statement from President Donald J. Trump on standing with Saudi Arabia.
00:17:34.960 This is from the White House website.
00:17:38.080 And then look at that.
00:17:39.000 America first!
00:17:40.320 The world is a very dangerous place!
00:17:43.220 How about that for the beginning of a presidential statement?
00:17:48.300 You know what?
00:17:49.160 And it just gets better.
00:17:52.060 The country of Iran, as an example, is responsible for a bloody proxy war
00:17:55.740 against Saudi Arabia and Yemen,
00:17:57.560 trying to destabilize Iraq's fragile attempt at democracy,
00:18:00.700 supporting the terror group Hezbollah in Lebanon,
00:18:02.900 propping up dictator Bashar Assad in Syria,
00:18:04.920 who has killed millions of his own citizens,
00:18:06.960 and much more.
00:18:08.040 Likewise, the Iranians have killed many Americans
00:18:10.260 and other innocent people throughout the Middle East.
00:18:12.680 Iran states openly and with great force,
00:18:14.500 death to America and death to Israel,
00:18:16.040 Iran is considered the world-leading sponsor of terror.
00:18:19.060 On the other hand, Saudi Arabia would gladly withdraw from Yemen
00:18:23.300 if the Iranians would agree to leave.
00:18:25.200 They would immediately provide desperately needed humanitarian assistance.
00:18:29.240 Additionally, Saudi Arabia has agreed to spend billions of dollars
00:18:31.680 in leading the fight against radical Islamic terrorism.
00:18:34.320 Now, you can agree or disagree with whether those things are going to happen,
00:18:39.660 but you see what he's doing.
00:18:41.860 He's giving a class on diplomacy 101,
00:18:45.800 otherwise known as real life.
00:18:48.140 On other things that might be as, you know,
00:18:51.300 important as virtue signaling about a Muslim Brotherhood operative.
00:18:56.720 As in, what he's talking about there is more important
00:19:00.240 than virtue signaling about a Muslim Brotherhood operative.
00:19:03.440 Would you agree with me?
00:19:04.900 That what he's listed there is more important.
00:19:06.920 In fact, he talked about the lives of millions,
00:19:08.340 not the life of one.
00:19:09.940 I'm sorry that's foreign affairs.
00:19:11.820 It's not very nice, isn't it?
00:19:13.720 But what about domestic affairs?
00:19:15.180 Again, grown-up stuff.
00:19:17.340 A bit less dreamy than Justin Trudeau's fancy socks,
00:19:20.760 but it's real life.
00:19:21.760 Here, I'm going to read the next part of Trump's statement.
00:19:24.140 He switches from the foreign affairs to the domestic.
00:19:27.380 Take a look.
00:19:29.560 After my heavily negotiated trip to Saudi Arabia last year,
00:19:32.960 the kingdom agreed to spend and invest $450 billion in the United States.
00:19:39.060 This is a record amount of money.
00:19:40.340 It will create hundreds of thousands of jobs,
00:19:42.460 tremendous economic development,
00:19:43.880 and much additional wealth for the United States.
00:19:46.300 Of the $450 billion,
00:19:48.240 $110 billion will be spent on the purchase of military equipment
00:19:51.440 from Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon,
00:19:53.880 and many other great U.S. defense contractors.
00:19:56.220 If we foolishly cancel these contracts,
00:19:58.340 Russia and China would be the enormous beneficiaries
00:20:00.700 and very happy to acquire all of this newfound business.
00:20:03.760 It would be a wonderful gift to them
00:20:05.040 directly from the United States!
00:20:07.000 Exclamation point.
00:20:10.000 Is a human life worth $450 billion in trade?
00:20:13.520 We don't like to think that way,
00:20:14.940 or at least talk that way, right?
00:20:16.340 Because we say that every life is invaluable,
00:20:19.220 which is true.
00:20:20.260 It's invaluable.
00:20:21.080 You can't put a value on it,
00:20:22.520 but a president can't be sentimental.
00:20:24.600 A president has to put a value on it.
00:20:26.800 And frankly, how is giving China and Russia
00:20:30.000 that $450 billion changing the world at all,
00:20:34.180 other than making America poorer?
00:20:35.400 Let me read some more.
00:20:37.720 The crime against Jamal Khashoggi was a terrible one,
00:20:41.080 and one that our country does not condone.
00:20:42.740 Indeed, we have taken strong action
00:20:44.260 against those already known to have participated in the murder.
00:20:47.280 After great independent research,
00:20:48.680 we now know many details of this horrible crime.
00:20:50.920 We have already sanctioned 17 Saudis
00:20:53.240 known to have been involved in the murder of Mr. Khashoggi
00:20:55.540 and the disposal of his body.
00:20:58.540 Representatives of Saudi Arabia say that Jamal Khashoggi
00:21:00.520 was an enemy of the state
00:21:01.740 and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood,
00:21:03.580 but my decision is in no way based on that.
00:21:06.180 This is an unacceptable and horrible crime.
00:21:08.200 King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman
00:21:11.480 vigorously deny any knowledge of the planning
00:21:13.260 or execution of the murder of Mr. Khashoggi.
00:21:15.280 Our intelligence agencies continue to assess all information,
00:21:18.180 but it could very well be that the Crown Prince
00:21:20.180 had knowledge of this tragic event.
00:21:22.020 Maybe he did, and maybe he didn't!
00:21:24.640 Exclamation point.
00:21:28.320 Now, of course, Donald Trump knows
00:21:30.280 it was ordered by the Crown Prince.
00:21:33.740 Mohammed bin Salman, or MBS, as he's known.
00:21:37.220 And MBS knows that Trump's nose.
00:21:41.520 And MBS is surely grateful that Trump
00:21:43.940 is going along with this fiction.
00:21:45.980 That's diplomacy.
00:21:48.840 And MBS will surely be very grateful to Trump
00:21:51.780 and give Trump many concessions in return
00:21:54.880 for this fiction.
00:21:58.620 Do you doubt that's how deals work?
00:22:00.500 If so, you ought to read a little book
00:22:02.180 called The Art of the Deal.
00:22:03.100 Well, that's real life, people.
00:22:06.780 Let me read some more.
00:22:09.620 That being said, we will never know
00:22:11.220 all the facts surrounding the murder
00:22:12.540 of Mr. Jamal Khashoggi.
00:22:14.320 In any case, our relationship
00:22:15.760 is with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
00:22:18.060 They have been a great ally
00:22:19.380 in our very important fight against Iran.
00:22:21.580 The United States intends to remain
00:22:22.860 a steadfast partner of Saudi Arabia
00:22:24.180 to ensure the interests of our country,
00:22:26.560 Israel, and all other partners in the region.
00:22:29.080 It is our paramount goal to fully eliminate
00:22:31.600 the threat of terrorism throughout the world.
00:22:33.820 Now, it goes on a little bit longer,
00:22:35.360 but that's enough.
00:22:37.620 Are you shocked by Donald Trump's statement?
00:22:40.140 If so, can you tell me what part exactly?
00:22:44.520 And now I'm going to guess you might say
00:22:46.240 because he believes the lies
00:22:47.720 of the murderous Saudi king.
00:22:49.580 Well, he says maybe he does,
00:22:51.480 maybe he doesn't.
00:22:52.940 There's a bit of a deliberate ambiguity there.
00:22:55.000 But don't be naive.
00:22:56.200 Of course he doesn't.
00:22:57.420 Any more than any American president
00:22:59.560 believes the lies of foreign leaders,
00:23:02.620 either Democrats or dictators.
00:23:04.260 Are you shocked by the fact
00:23:05.500 that Trump so brazenly refers to oil
00:23:07.100 and trade and military alliances?
00:23:08.960 Why?
00:23:09.720 What do you think America's relationship
00:23:10.960 with Saudi Arabia was built on?
00:23:12.620 Why do you think America
00:23:13.360 even cares about Saudi Arabia?
00:23:15.520 What is shocking about any of this
00:23:16.780 other than we actually have a president
00:23:18.740 who says whatever's on his mind
00:23:20.360 when the fancy people know better
00:23:21.840 than to be so candid?
00:23:22.820 That whole part about maybe he did it,
00:23:24.280 maybe he didn't, how do I know?
00:23:25.640 Well, that's gorgeous and honest.
00:23:28.000 Normally people don't say that out loud,
00:23:29.560 but I'm sorry, that is real life.
00:23:32.300 And anyone who says Trump is coarsening the world
00:23:34.800 with this diplomacy should answer
00:23:37.060 what exactly they'd like the West to do
00:23:40.500 about bad behavior of dictatorships
00:23:43.640 towards their own citizens.
00:23:44.980 And by the way, they can start
00:23:46.060 by asking about China too.
00:23:48.320 And maybe they can write their answer
00:23:50.100 on their Chinese-made smartphone
00:23:52.680 or their Chinese-made laptop computer.
00:23:56.440 Look, I'm for peace and freedom and civil rights.
00:23:59.680 And I hate the Saudis.
00:24:02.720 And I hate the Turks.
00:24:03.660 And I hate Iran and ISIS even more.
00:24:08.860 And this Jamal Khashoggi, yeah, it is sad.
00:24:11.260 But he's not high up on my list
00:24:14.140 of the world's victims.
00:24:17.280 So what do you think?
00:24:19.980 Well, let me know.
00:24:22.260 Stay with us, boy.
00:24:23.120 Airbnb is like Uber,
00:24:42.400 but instead of driving your own car for other people,
00:24:45.900 you rent out your own room to other people.
00:24:48.840 It lets you turn your house or apartment
00:24:51.160 into a hotel.
00:24:52.420 For cash, it's extremely popular.
00:24:55.720 And there are Airbnbs in 81,000
00:24:59.820 different towns and cities.
00:25:02.640 But this week, Airbnb announced
00:25:05.120 that they are banning Airbnb listings
00:25:08.360 in disputed territories of the West Bank.
00:25:12.120 But here's the catch.
00:25:14.140 They're only banning Jewish homeowners
00:25:17.780 from listing their house on Airbnb.
00:25:20.780 Airbnb, Muslims are still welcome to do so.
00:25:24.140 As you can see from the press release
00:25:26.000 on the Airbnb page,
00:25:27.940 they call it listings in disputed regions.
00:25:31.480 And it's true that the region is disputed,
00:25:34.120 but they still allow Muslim customers
00:25:36.800 in those disputed regions.
00:25:38.540 I guess it's the Jews who are in dispute.
00:25:41.520 Joining us now via Skype from Breitbart.com
00:25:46.000 is our friend Joel Pollack.
00:25:47.800 Joel, welcome to the show.
00:25:48.920 This really, really feels like Airbnb
00:25:52.540 is taking sides in a political dispute,
00:25:55.640 which they haven't done anywhere else,
00:25:58.140 like Tibet or Burma.
00:26:00.020 They have listings there.
00:26:01.860 Only in the West Bank
00:26:03.160 are they becoming discriminating.
00:26:05.820 Am I right on that?
00:26:08.500 Right.
00:26:09.500 The policy appears only to apply
00:26:12.160 to Judea and Samaria,
00:26:14.540 areas across the 1949 armistice line
00:26:17.740 in Israel.
00:26:19.760 And the really objectionable thing,
00:26:22.760 as you pointed out,
00:26:23.660 is it only applies to Israelis,
00:26:25.520 does not seem to apply to Palestinians,
00:26:27.740 putting their homes up for rent on Airbnb.
00:26:30.580 I don't know how many units
00:26:31.680 there would be there,
00:26:33.100 but the policy is discriminatory.
00:26:35.960 And even some more moderate voices
00:26:38.380 who might normally not favor boycotts
00:26:40.560 of companies
00:26:41.540 have really expressed their outrage.
00:26:43.520 They've called this
00:26:44.060 a discrimination against Jews.
00:26:46.300 The statement by Airbnb
00:26:48.540 is also very curious.
00:26:50.880 They basically say that
00:26:52.160 the dispute over this land
00:26:54.580 is the core of the conflict.
00:26:56.380 And if there's any myth
00:26:58.000 that has been debunked
00:27:00.420 over the last two decades,
00:27:02.100 it's that that land
00:27:03.520 is at the core of the conflict.
00:27:04.900 It's not.
00:27:05.420 The core of the conflict
00:27:06.420 is the refusal of Palestinians
00:27:08.880 to accept Israel itself.
00:27:11.840 And even though the land
00:27:12.980 across the 1949 armistice line
00:27:14.960 is land in disputed territory,
00:27:17.160 when Israel pulled out of Gaza,
00:27:19.620 for example,
00:27:20.580 that did not end Palestinian violence
00:27:23.140 against Israel from Gaza.
00:27:24.300 It only accelerated terror
00:27:26.420 and violence from Gaza.
00:27:28.980 And that's really the core of the conflict.
00:27:31.840 The core of the conflict
00:27:32.420 is the Palestinian rejection
00:27:34.240 of Israel's right to exist,
00:27:36.120 of Jewish self-determination, etc.
00:27:38.000 In fact, when the parties
00:27:39.100 were close to a deal in 2000,
00:27:41.240 one of the things that Yasser Arafat,
00:27:43.020 the late leader
00:27:44.080 of the Palestine Liberation Organization,
00:27:46.020 one of the things he apparently did
00:27:47.200 was denied any Jewish historical presence
00:27:49.740 on the Temple Mount,
00:27:50.620 which is just absurd.
00:27:51.620 But that's the level of denial.
00:27:54.280 That's how deep it goes
00:27:55.440 among Palestinian leaders.
00:27:57.740 And that's why there's still a conflict.
00:27:59.540 Yeah.
00:27:59.940 Well, what's odd is that a company
00:28:02.920 that has customers
00:28:05.540 of every possible stripe
00:28:07.380 would take sides in any conflict.
00:28:10.400 I mean, like I say,
00:28:11.080 they're willing to rent out homes
00:28:13.520 in Lhasa, Tibet,
00:28:16.040 which you could make a case
00:28:18.820 that that is illegally occupied
00:28:22.260 by the Chinese dictatorship.
00:28:24.360 They rent out homes
00:28:26.580 in the Rohingya homeland
00:28:29.200 of Rakhine, Burma.
00:28:31.480 I checked.
00:28:32.320 They rent out homes
00:28:33.060 in the Uyghur homeland
00:28:35.480 of Xinjiang, China,
00:28:36.920 where they have mass re-education camps.
00:28:39.780 So it's very, in Crimea,
00:28:42.020 it's hard to find a place
00:28:43.700 in the world
00:28:44.300 where Airbnb won't do business.
00:28:46.840 Once you start picking sides
00:28:49.560 of these territorial disputes,
00:28:51.220 it theoretically could snowball
00:28:53.240 to everywhere.
00:28:54.440 I mean, even in Canada,
00:28:55.480 we have aboriginal land claims
00:28:57.820 that are not extinct.
00:28:59.620 But they only choose the Jews.
00:29:01.680 And that's what's so weird.
00:29:05.480 Right.
00:29:06.260 The other thing is the areas
00:29:08.040 in which people are being banned
00:29:11.360 from listing their property
00:29:12.600 in Judea and Samaria
00:29:14.480 are largely towns
00:29:16.380 that are going to be part of Israel
00:29:17.820 in any final peace agreement.
00:29:20.360 This is almost universally recognized.
00:29:22.160 Places like Efrat, for example.
00:29:23.740 Efrat was an area
00:29:25.140 that Jews lived in before 1948.
00:29:26.780 They were expelled
00:29:27.800 by the Jordanian army
00:29:29.160 during the War of Independence
00:29:31.300 for Israel.
00:29:33.160 And they only returned after 1967.
00:29:36.760 But that area was, in fact,
00:29:38.860 inhabited by Jews before 1948.
00:29:41.140 And now is a popular suburb
00:29:44.100 south of Jerusalem.
00:29:45.360 And it's almost certainly
00:29:46.660 going to be part of Israel
00:29:47.620 once that land
00:29:49.260 does have its final borders
00:29:51.400 in a peace deal
00:29:52.600 that we're maybe going to see
00:29:54.440 the outlines of
00:29:55.040 from the Trump administration.
00:29:56.160 So the idea that Airbnb
00:29:57.440 would prejudice that peace deal,
00:30:00.600 in fact, in essence,
00:30:01.760 oppose that peace deal
00:30:02.860 by saying that we're not going
00:30:04.400 to recognize the Israeli presence
00:30:06.580 in areas that were historically Jewish.
00:30:08.880 And by the way,
00:30:09.340 nobody's clear as to whether
00:30:10.380 their policy applies
00:30:11.260 to the old city of Jerusalem,
00:30:13.800 East Jerusalem,
00:30:14.460 where there are lots of Jewish homes.
00:30:16.660 So nobody's really clear
00:30:17.820 what they're doing.
00:30:18.700 And the funny thing is
00:30:19.860 that Airbnb seems to think
00:30:21.500 that it knows where
00:30:23.200 the boundary should be
00:30:24.780 better than the party
00:30:26.660 is themselves.
00:30:27.460 So if anything,
00:30:29.580 this is actually
00:30:30.100 a disruptive gesture.
00:30:32.060 It actually frustrates peace
00:30:33.260 because it will encourage
00:30:34.140 Palestinians to boycott,
00:30:35.540 to demonize,
00:30:36.360 to delegitimize Israel
00:30:37.860 rather than dealing with Israel.
00:30:39.840 And all the wrong people
00:30:41.340 are happy with this result.
00:30:42.580 All of the extreme
00:30:44.040 far-left BDS enthusiasts
00:30:47.080 think this is great
00:30:48.260 because Airbnb
00:30:48.920 is a well-known tech company.
00:30:50.500 And they think
00:30:50.920 if they can do this with Airbnb,
00:30:52.100 they can push Google,
00:30:53.520 Facebook, Twitter,
00:30:54.240 other tech giants
00:30:56.080 to start excluding Israelis
00:30:59.240 or taking actions,
00:31:01.560 taking sides
00:31:02.420 in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
00:31:04.280 And I think they have
00:31:05.080 some justification with that.
00:31:06.420 You know,
00:31:06.900 all of these tech giants,
00:31:08.640 they're all based
00:31:09.440 in Silicon Valley
00:31:10.320 or San Francisco.
00:31:11.540 And you just go on
00:31:12.780 their websites
00:31:14.140 and you see
00:31:15.120 how chock-full of
00:31:17.240 far-left Obama
00:31:19.060 or Hillary Clinton staff
00:31:20.780 they are.
00:31:21.740 I mean,
00:31:21.880 I went on Airbnb's
00:31:23.580 senior executive team
00:31:25.920 and their head
00:31:26.640 of global policy
00:31:29.000 is Chris Lehane.
00:31:30.920 Now,
00:31:31.080 you probably know him
00:31:31.800 better than I do, Joel.
00:31:33.060 He was a senior
00:31:34.160 Al Gore
00:31:35.100 and Bill Clinton type
00:31:36.380 lodged at Airbnb.
00:31:38.300 He would have called
00:31:38.960 the shots here.
00:31:40.140 You have Obama staffers,
00:31:42.900 Hillary Clinton staffers.
00:31:44.320 It really is
00:31:45.020 a revolving door
00:31:46.060 between
00:31:46.680 far-left Democrat politics
00:31:49.260 and Silicon Valley.
00:31:50.900 I'm sure this was
00:31:53.580 Chris Lehane's decision.
00:31:54.920 I mean,
00:31:55.460 that's his title,
00:31:56.360 head of global policy.
00:31:58.880 I actually think
00:32:00.300 this could spread
00:32:01.320 and I already see
00:32:02.300 the BDS groups
00:32:03.160 trying to lean
00:32:04.020 on other
00:32:05.460 home rental apps
00:32:08.600 to get them
00:32:09.140 to follow suit.
00:32:10.740 And frankly,
00:32:11.880 I don't think
00:32:12.360 that even
00:32:12.840 nominal Jews
00:32:14.600 like Mark Zuckerberg,
00:32:16.160 the head of Facebook,
00:32:17.060 would really stop this much.
00:32:18.340 I mean,
00:32:18.600 they're left-wing.
00:32:19.840 They're not particularly
00:32:20.520 pro-Israel
00:32:21.300 and they go
00:32:22.040 with the flow.
00:32:24.400 Right,
00:32:25.120 right.
00:32:25.560 And look,
00:32:26.200 I think that
00:32:27.940 that's why it's incumbent
00:32:28.760 on people to oppose this.
00:32:30.040 I mean,
00:32:30.160 I've deactivated
00:32:30.940 my Airbnb account
00:32:32.000 and I spent
00:32:32.940 probably about $1,000
00:32:34.140 on Airbnb
00:32:35.540 this year so far,
00:32:37.320 ironically enough,
00:32:38.360 in Israel.
00:32:41.080 You know,
00:32:41.480 it's,
00:32:42.500 I think,
00:32:43.520 a gesture one can take.
00:32:44.500 Other people
00:32:44.920 are doing the same.
00:32:45.740 My tweet
00:32:46.740 about deactivating
00:32:47.500 my account
00:32:47.860 was retweeted
00:32:48.400 thousands of times.
00:32:49.460 Other people
00:32:49.940 seem to be doing
00:32:50.480 the same.
00:32:50.860 There are alternatives.
00:32:51.880 There's VRBO.
00:32:52.780 There's other message boards
00:32:54.640 in Israel
00:32:55.680 if you want to go to Israel
00:32:56.540 and find somewhere else
00:32:57.680 to stay.
00:32:58.040 It's very tough
00:32:58.560 for people
00:32:58.980 who depend
00:32:59.700 on Airbnb
00:33:00.160 for an income
00:33:01.080 to delist
00:33:02.740 from Airbnb.
00:33:03.600 So I understand
00:33:04.100 that,
00:33:04.860 you know,
00:33:05.600 this might be
00:33:06.060 a tough thing
00:33:06.440 for other people
00:33:06.880 to do,
00:33:07.240 but I think
00:33:08.100 the only response
00:33:08.920 to boycott efforts
00:33:10.380 is to boycott
00:33:11.080 the boycotters
00:33:11.880 because
00:33:12.320 what they're doing
00:33:14.120 is toxic.
00:33:15.480 It's actually
00:33:15.880 toxic to peace.
00:33:17.340 It's encouraging
00:33:17.960 Palestinians
00:33:18.700 to dig in,
00:33:19.720 not to negotiate,
00:33:21.360 not to reach an agreement,
00:33:22.760 prolong the conflict.
00:33:23.720 That means more people
00:33:24.440 getting hurt,
00:33:25.040 more people dying.
00:33:26.600 And I think
00:33:27.840 that Airbnb
00:33:28.380 just caved
00:33:29.260 to the pressure.
00:33:30.120 I think that
00:33:30.580 Silicon Valley
00:33:31.740 has moved far left
00:33:33.200 as part of the resistance
00:33:34.960 against the Trump administration.
00:33:37.020 And I think
00:33:37.980 it's a huge mistake.
00:33:39.120 I think that
00:33:39.800 they don't have to like
00:33:40.920 Donald Trump's policies
00:33:41.880 on tech.
00:33:43.160 They don't have to like
00:33:43.760 his policies
00:33:44.200 on the Middle East.
00:33:44.960 But right is right
00:33:46.140 and wrong is wrong
00:33:46.840 and this is wrong.
00:33:48.000 So I think it's important
00:33:49.220 to send a message
00:33:50.120 to the tech giants
00:33:51.360 this actually won't be tolerated.
00:33:53.160 It's odd also
00:33:53.800 because Israel
00:33:55.080 is so important
00:33:55.860 to the tech world.
00:33:56.680 I mean,
00:33:56.800 I read the tech publications,
00:33:58.380 the news
00:33:58.720 from the tech industry daily
00:33:59.980 and Israel
00:34:02.360 and Silicon Valley
00:34:03.140 are very,
00:34:03.920 very closely integrated.
00:34:05.560 There are lots
00:34:06.200 of Silicon Valley companies
00:34:07.300 that depend
00:34:07.780 on Israeli products,
00:34:08.960 on Israeli programs,
00:34:10.180 Israeli software,
00:34:11.140 Israeli patents,
00:34:11.880 Israeli personnel.
00:34:13.160 This is because Israel
00:34:14.520 has a huge,
00:34:16.400 huge comparative advantage
00:34:17.700 in engineering
00:34:18.440 and the Israelis
00:34:20.540 are very,
00:34:21.120 very good
00:34:21.460 at inventing things.
00:34:22.960 Second to the United States,
00:34:24.080 I think,
00:34:24.360 only in terms
00:34:25.120 of startup companies.
00:34:26.200 And so
00:34:26.440 it's just crazy
00:34:29.040 for Silicon Valley
00:34:30.040 to take this stance.
00:34:31.020 I'm sure there are
00:34:31.420 a lot of people
00:34:32.000 in Silicon Valley
00:34:33.100 and involved
00:34:33.520 with Silicon Valley
00:34:34.140 who are upset.
00:34:34.880 There's a chance
00:34:35.540 Airbnb could even
00:34:36.380 reverse this policy.
00:34:37.420 This policy is a reversal
00:34:38.480 of their previous policy,
00:34:39.500 which was not
00:34:39.920 to get involved.
00:34:40.500 So they may go back
00:34:42.340 to it.
00:34:42.920 I think it's just
00:34:43.900 really important
00:34:44.540 for people to express
00:34:45.380 their opposition
00:34:45.840 to this kind of thing.
00:34:47.180 Otherwise,
00:34:47.740 it just will never stop.
00:34:48.920 And you're going to see
00:34:50.160 not just a grave injustice,
00:34:51.960 but I think you'll see
00:34:53.300 people actually suffer
00:34:54.160 because of things like this.
00:34:55.380 Yeah.
00:34:55.680 Well,
00:34:56.060 thank you for those.
00:34:57.920 I found your comments
00:34:59.420 actually inspiring.
00:35:00.760 We've set up a petition
00:35:01.840 that we are going
00:35:02.540 to deliver
00:35:03.180 to Chris Lehane.
00:35:04.980 If folks want to sign it,
00:35:06.640 go to protestairbnb.com,
00:35:10.400 protestairbnb.com.
00:35:12.300 Last I checked,
00:35:12.960 we had about 10,000 names on it.
00:35:14.980 I'd love to get that
00:35:15.820 over 20,000
00:35:16.760 and we will deliver it
00:35:18.340 to Airbnb in San Francisco.
00:35:20.660 Joel,
00:35:20.840 thanks very much
00:35:21.400 for taking the time
00:35:22.020 with us today.
00:35:23.200 Thank you.
00:35:23.860 All right.
00:35:24.240 There you have it.
00:35:24.580 Joel Pollack,
00:35:25.280 senior editor-at-large
00:35:26.480 at Breitbart.com.
00:35:27.940 Stay with us.
00:35:28.740 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:35:34.980 On my monologue yesterday
00:35:42.780 about Celine Dion's
00:35:43.740 bizarre gender-neutral
00:35:44.880 clothing line,
00:35:45.640 that was so weird,
00:35:46.360 wasn't it?
00:35:46.920 Deborah writes,
00:35:48.440 Celine is certainly living
00:35:49.340 on the dark side of the moon.
00:35:50.880 Those pictures were haunting
00:35:51.780 and truly disturbing.
00:35:52.840 I wouldn't cross the street
00:35:53.760 to see her now.
00:35:55.620 Well, look,
00:35:56.440 I try my best
00:35:58.040 to separate the politics
00:35:59.440 of people in the entertainment industry
00:36:01.620 from their craft.
00:36:03.660 Otherwise,
00:36:03.940 I really wouldn't be able
00:36:05.480 to listen to anything else
00:36:06.560 other than country music.
00:36:08.680 I mean,
00:36:09.740 I try hard.
00:36:11.240 With some actors,
00:36:12.420 I just can't do it.
00:36:13.840 I just can't do it
00:36:15.120 because I can't look at them
00:36:17.600 without thinking
00:36:18.960 in their politics.
00:36:20.340 I don't feel that way
00:36:21.520 about Celine Dion.
00:36:22.320 I think this is some weirdness
00:36:23.660 she's fallen into.
00:36:25.220 I like to imagine
00:36:26.400 if Rene Angeli
00:36:27.420 was still around,
00:36:28.560 he would have steered
00:36:29.300 her away from this.
00:36:30.300 It's dark.
00:36:31.080 I hate it.
00:36:31.820 It doesn't mean
00:36:32.560 I'm going to turn
00:36:33.460 the radio station
00:36:34.460 if a song of hers
00:36:35.220 comes on.
00:36:36.040 But hopefully,
00:36:36.700 some of her fans
00:36:37.700 will get through to her
00:36:38.800 and say,
00:36:39.500 what are you doing?
00:36:42.500 Liza writes,
00:36:43.860 I don't have words
00:36:44.600 for how sick
00:36:45.080 it made me feel
00:36:45.940 when I saw that pic
00:36:46.760 of the two demon babies
00:36:47.960 and the other ones
00:36:49.080 with what looks like
00:36:49.780 blood spatters,
00:36:50.820 dehumanizing young children
00:36:51.900 and presenting them
00:36:52.600 as all one gender.
00:36:53.920 This is not good.
00:36:54.720 This is not funny.
00:36:55.380 None of it
00:36:55.740 on any level.
00:36:56.520 Yeah, you know,
00:36:58.680 those demon babies
00:37:01.040 was so, so bad.
00:37:02.500 And I think
00:37:02.800 the last photo
00:37:03.480 I showed
00:37:03.980 of the baby
00:37:06.080 with the skull
00:37:07.220 photoshopped
00:37:09.360 onto his face,
00:37:10.400 that is so,
00:37:12.360 that revels in death
00:37:14.220 and our culture
00:37:15.380 is based on life
00:37:16.340 and we love life.
00:37:18.300 And that's what we love
00:37:19.480 best about kids,
00:37:20.800 isn't it?
00:37:21.540 That they are new life
00:37:23.260 and they're the promise
00:37:24.580 for life
00:37:25.160 and once we die
00:37:26.540 life will continue
00:37:27.440 with them
00:37:27.880 and they're angels.
00:37:29.560 Why do we call them
00:37:30.380 little angels?
00:37:31.300 Because they're not yet
00:37:32.340 tarnished with sins.
00:37:34.140 We believe that they're
00:37:35.340 born without sins.
00:37:37.940 I mean, I suppose
00:37:38.440 there's a concept
00:37:39.040 of original sin
00:37:40.140 but in real life
00:37:41.280 the reason why
00:37:41.880 everyone loves a baby
00:37:43.160 is because they're
00:37:44.280 as close to perfect
00:37:45.280 as humans get.
00:37:47.620 They haven't,
00:37:48.500 other than original sin
00:37:49.700 and that theological concept
00:37:51.340 of how we've all
00:37:51.980 inherited some sin,
00:37:52.980 when you look at a baby
00:37:54.620 you see purity
00:37:55.680 and to take such purity
00:37:58.760 and to combine it
00:38:00.900 with such ugliness
00:38:02.000 and there's a gag reflex
00:38:05.480 that comes out.
00:38:06.900 We want to gag.
00:38:08.500 What is Celine Dion
00:38:09.540 who is a beautiful woman
00:38:11.020 who sings beautifully
00:38:12.560 and dresses beautifully
00:38:13.620 and presents beautifully,
00:38:15.340 what is she doing
00:38:16.600 reveling in such ugliness?
00:38:20.400 I don't understand it
00:38:22.220 but I wanted to show it to you
00:38:23.660 and I hope you don't mind.
00:38:25.640 Stan writes,
00:38:27.220 Celine is being sardonic
00:38:28.400 in trying to show the world
00:38:29.800 how the elitist cabal
00:38:30.980 is using children
00:38:32.780 and radicalization of children
00:38:34.140 through clothing.
00:38:36.000 She is deeply concerned
00:38:36.780 about the communist UN agenda
00:38:37.900 to brainwash children.
00:38:39.040 Even though she is
00:38:39.640 Celine Dion,
00:38:40.460 she is showing us
00:38:41.120 that it's okay
00:38:41.660 for her to go into a nursery
00:38:43.000 using her elitism
00:38:44.300 and radicalize children.
00:38:45.520 She is sardonic
00:38:46.260 and actually believes
00:38:46.960 the elite cabal
00:38:47.560 are morally wrong on this.
00:38:48.920 Well, that is
00:38:50.800 a hundred dollar excuse.
00:38:53.060 That is really, really,
00:38:54.800 you're making a pretzel there.
00:38:57.620 You're assuming
00:38:58.700 that the whole thing
00:38:59.600 is so outrageous
00:39:01.000 that the only way
00:39:02.920 she would do it
00:39:03.700 is some sort of a
00:39:04.660 like a double joke.
00:39:07.080 Like think of
00:39:08.020 three chess moves ahead.
00:39:09.340 No, no, no.
00:39:10.140 Occam's razor.
00:39:11.240 You know what
00:39:11.620 Occam's razor is?
00:39:12.860 It's an old philosophical rule.
00:39:15.140 The simplest answer
00:39:16.740 is usually the right one.
00:39:21.160 She's wholly weird.
00:39:23.020 I showed you evidence
00:39:24.260 in her own life,
00:39:26.020 whether it's
00:39:26.860 her relationship
00:39:27.920 with Renee
00:39:29.160 or those strange comments
00:39:32.180 about freezing babies.
00:39:34.380 And again,
00:39:34.760 I got nothing against
00:39:35.620 in vitro fertilization.
00:39:36.840 I believe anyone
00:39:37.640 who wants to make a baby,
00:39:39.320 I wish them good luck
00:39:40.140 and if technology helps,
00:39:41.120 great.
00:39:41.700 But she was weird
00:39:42.880 about putting a baby
00:39:43.800 in the freezer,
00:39:45.320 an embryo.
00:39:46.620 I don't think
00:39:47.640 it's fake
00:39:48.220 or a double trick.
00:39:49.260 I think that's you
00:39:50.040 trying to salvage
00:39:51.720 your hero.
00:39:53.320 That's my view.
00:39:55.080 Okay, let's switch subjects.
00:39:56.040 On my interview
00:39:56.460 with Lauren Gunter,
00:39:57.140 Bruce writes,
00:39:58.620 oil is our future,
00:39:59.440 not fairy dust
00:40:00.120 energy projects.
00:40:01.480 Not at least
00:40:01.760 just wasting our money
00:40:02.620 to show that
00:40:03.180 she's doing something
00:40:04.000 when she really isn't.
00:40:06.140 Well, look,
00:40:07.700 what, I mean,
00:40:08.340 put aside Brian Topp,
00:40:10.120 the anti-oil extremist
00:40:11.680 Toronto union leader.
00:40:13.380 What are you choosing him for?
00:40:16.560 I mean, seriously,
00:40:17.340 you could choose
00:40:17.960 a random person
00:40:19.040 from the Calgary phone book
00:40:21.020 and they would have
00:40:21.960 more common sense
00:40:23.360 and affinity
00:40:24.220 for the oil and gas sector
00:40:25.340 than Brian Topp.
00:40:26.800 But that's not even
00:40:27.720 the worst part of it.
00:40:30.260 You don't need to send
00:40:31.360 an expert to the oil.
00:40:32.460 We want to find out
00:40:33.260 from the oil executives
00:40:34.100 what's going on here.
00:40:36.140 Well, we all know
00:40:36.780 what's going on here
00:40:37.480 and the problem
00:40:37.940 is not the oil executives
00:40:38.860 who have a solution.
00:40:40.660 The solution is called
00:40:41.280 build the pipelines.
00:40:42.160 So they're not the problem.
00:40:45.760 The problem is
00:40:46.620 the government in Ottawa,
00:40:48.500 the government in BC,
00:40:49.880 the courts,
00:40:51.000 and Indian bands
00:40:53.080 who are bought off
00:40:53.920 by the Tides Foundation
00:40:54.960 and other funds,
00:40:56.380 other foundations.
00:40:57.480 I should tell you
00:40:58.120 that quite a few
00:40:59.000 Indian bands
00:40:59.640 are on side
00:41:00.680 with the pipelines.
00:41:02.500 It's the dramatic actors
00:41:03.960 hired by Tides
00:41:05.000 that aren't.
00:41:05.320 That's what you do.
00:41:06.540 If you truly wanted
00:41:07.780 to fix this problem,
00:41:10.620 you'd hire a former
00:41:11.860 BC New Democrat
00:41:12.780 to lobby Horgan
00:41:14.400 like a former
00:41:16.300 BC New Democrat premier.
00:41:18.620 You'd hire a senior
00:41:19.960 aboriginal leader
00:41:21.220 like a Phil Fontaine
00:41:22.600 or a Matthew Kuhn
00:41:23.840 come to try and lobby
00:41:25.880 because that's where
00:41:27.020 the problem is.
00:41:28.060 The fact that you're
00:41:28.580 still pretending
00:41:29.100 the problem is in
00:41:29.920 the oil patch shows
00:41:30.740 Rachel Donnelly's the same
00:41:32.240 as she's ever been.
00:41:33.440 All right.
00:41:34.440 Well, what do you think
00:41:35.160 of my comments
00:41:35.740 about Jamal Khashoggi?
00:41:36.960 Look, I don't want
00:41:37.460 someone murdered.
00:41:38.600 I think it's pretty gross.
00:41:40.160 But frankly,
00:41:40.760 when I see the Turks
00:41:41.640 fighting with the Saudis,
00:41:43.380 I don't feel like
00:41:44.280 I have a dog in that fight.
00:41:46.640 Not a Canadian citizen,
00:41:48.000 not an American citizen.
00:41:49.400 What research I've done
00:41:50.340 into him shows
00:41:50.880 he's a pretty iffy guy
00:41:51.880 who I don't know
00:41:53.120 if he actually shot anyone
00:41:54.160 with that gun
00:41:55.120 or RPG launcher.
00:41:56.460 But yeah,
00:41:57.200 I wouldn't put Jamal Khashoggi
00:41:58.540 in the top 1,000
00:42:00.360 names of people
00:42:01.260 I care about.
00:42:02.480 around the world
00:42:03.300 with you.
00:42:04.980 Until tomorrow, folks,
00:42:06.080 that's it for all of us here.
00:42:08.960 I'll see you tomorrow.
00:42:10.060 Until then,
00:42:11.040 keep fighting for freedom.
00:42:12.420 Bye-bye.