Rebel News Podcast - Saudi Arabia allegedly murders a Muslim Brotherhood activist in Turkey. How much should we care？

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Saudi Arabia allegedly murders a Muslim Brotherhood activist in Turkey.

00:00:05.840 How much should we care?

00:00:07.760 It's November 21st, and this is The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:16.520 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:20.380 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:24.080 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:27.080 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my

00:00:32.100 bloody right to do so.

00:00:37.820 This is Jamal Khashoggi.

00:00:40.680 He's a Saudi born in Saudi Arabia.

00:00:43.620 He was also killed by Saudis at the Saudi consulate in Turkey.

00:00:48.700 This is footage of him walking in.

00:00:51.740 He was carried out in parts.

00:00:53.480 It was really macabre.

00:00:54.640 It was murder, of course.

00:00:56.760 Saudis do that a lot, and so do the Turks, by the way. 0.59

00:01:00.080 I'll get back to that.

00:01:00.960 I have a question for you.

00:01:02.540 How much should you and I care about this?

00:01:05.800 Because a lot of important people say we have to care a lot, including Justin Trudeau, who

00:01:10.980 says he wants answers.

00:01:14.600 And Chrystia Freeland, our foreign minister who loves quarreling with the Saudis, here's 1.00

00:01:18.980 her statement.

00:01:19.960 She calls the murder heartbreaking.

00:01:21.920 I suppose every death is heartbreaking and every murder is an outrage, but let me tell

00:01:27.360 you some facts, and then I'll ask you for your opinion again in a moment.

00:01:31.560 So Jamal Khashoggi, prominent family.

00:01:34.460 I don't know if you remember that name, but his family, his grandfather was actually a Turk,

00:01:39.780 came to Saudi Arabia to be the personal doctor of King Saud, as in the dictator after whom the

00:01:46.020 whole country is named.

00:01:47.100 So it's a rich, connected family.

00:01:49.840 If you're old enough like me, you might remember this guy named Adnan Khashoggi.

00:01:56.580 He was a Saudi billionaire and an arms dealer who was involved in a complicated scheme to

00:02:01.320 sell arms to Iran to free American hostages and buy weapons for right-wing Contra rebels

00:02:08.380 in Nicaragua.

00:02:09.220 That was a hell of a scheme.

00:02:10.500 So that's Jamal's uncle, a billionaire.

00:02:13.800 You might have heard of Dodi Fayyad.

00:02:15.640 He was a billionaire, too.

00:02:17.420 And Princess Diana's boyfriend.

00:02:20.580 In fact, they died together that night in the car crash in Paris as they were being chased

00:02:24.860 by paparazzi.

00:02:25.800 He's Jamal Khashoggi's cousin.

00:02:29.000 So Jamal Khashoggi comes from a billionaire family with plenty of intrigue and connections

00:02:34.520 and money, and I'm not going to call it poor judgment, their family.

00:02:40.360 I'm going to call it extreme judgment.

00:02:42.580 I mean, they seem to be pretty successful to me, the whole billionaire part, the whole

00:02:46.460 dating a princess part.

00:02:48.940 I just don't know how many mere mortals amongst us could be arms dealers and rogues like that,

00:02:53.840 or in the case of Jamal Khashoggi, an actual friend of Osama bin Laden and a propagandist

00:03:00.020 for the Muslim Brotherhood pro-terrorist network.

00:03:03.640 Here's Jamal Khashoggi as a younger man.

00:03:07.100 That's him in the middle, and he wrote this story, too.

00:03:09.680 This is exactly 30 years ago, 1988, in Afghanistan.

00:03:13.460 He's with Osama bin Laden's crew and another al-Qaeda founder named Abdullah Azzam, and that's 0.98

00:03:20.960 him holding the rocket-propelled grenade.

00:03:24.940 Here's another picture of him.

00:03:25.940 This was in the New York Times.

00:03:28.980 That's Khashoggi holding what I think is an AK-47.

00:03:33.740 So yeah, pretty friendly with the terrorist types, as a lot of Saudis are, and of course 1.00

00:03:39.040 there are terrorists who want to topple Saudi Arabia, too, and there are terrorists funded

00:03:43.160 by Saudi Arabia, and I suppose there are terrorists who are both funded by Saudi Arabia and want

00:03:47.320 to topple Saudi Arabia.

00:03:48.680 Osama bin Laden himself came from a wealthy Saudi family.

00:03:53.480 It's a pretty awful country, and Jamal Khashoggi was an associate of the worst of them, and 0.91

00:03:59.360 you could say of the best of them, too.

00:04:01.040 But he didn't just carry RPGs and guns.

00:04:05.000 He was a journalist, too.

00:04:07.080 I showed you that piece he wrote from the terrorists in 1988.

00:04:09.920 I think a propagandist might be a more accurate description.

00:04:13.660 He was on a mission.

00:04:15.060 Hey, I'm on a mission, too, with my journalism, but I'm just a conservative.

00:04:19.080 I'm a Democrat.

00:04:20.120 I have peaceful ideas.

00:04:21.160 I don't blow things up.

00:04:23.300 Khashoggi's friends did.

00:04:24.600 He was an avid recruit to something called the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:04:27.760 That's the worldwide Islamist network that has sharp terrorists in places like Hamas, but

00:04:33.920 it has many more slow and steady Islamists in the establishment around the world, working 1.00

00:04:39.060 on the soft jihad through politics and business and diplomacy.

00:04:42.280 Khashoggi seemed to be a bit in both worlds.

00:04:45.200 Like I say, his family likes to live dangerously.

00:04:47.900 He was not an American citizen.

00:04:49.980 He was not even a permanent resident of the United States.

00:04:53.040 He did not have a green card, as some foreigners do. 1.00

00:04:56.280 He was as American as I am, which is to say, not at all.

00:04:59.560 But he had a column at Jeff Bezos's Washington Post newspaper where he would say what you'd

00:05:06.660 expect him to say.

00:05:07.560 Here's a column from him just a couple of months ago.

00:05:10.440 It's from August.

00:05:12.200 The U.S. is wrong about the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Arab world is suffering for it.

00:05:17.020 Yeah, pretty blunt, pretty honest.

00:05:19.960 I guess you got to like that about him.

00:05:21.300 He just didn't hide the fact that he loved him, the terrorism.

00:05:24.500 Look at that.

00:05:24.980 Look at that picture.

00:05:26.320 I love that friendly picture of him in the corner there.

00:05:28.800 He's no dummy.

00:05:30.320 Americans might not be so willing to take advice on, you know, terrorist groups from

00:05:34.660 a guy holding a grenade launcher.

00:05:36.720 So pretend he likes baseball or whatever that hat is.

00:05:39.860 Yeah, it looks a friendly fella there.

00:05:41.520 It looks like, I don't know, that kid singer Rafi.

00:05:44.000 Maybe he'll sing a little song.

00:05:46.520 So that's what he would publish in English in America when he makes himself look friendly

00:05:51.060 and acceptable to the West.

00:05:52.260 That cap is perfect.

00:05:54.500 He's still a propagandist for Islamists, of course. 0.54

00:05:56.820 Here's what he says to his Twitter audience, which is mainly people in Arabia.

00:06:02.060 He's got two million followers.

00:06:03.180 He's dead now, but when he was alive, look at this.

00:06:05.900 Dear USA, your 9-11 is our 24-7. 0.61

00:06:09.680 Sincerely, Palestine.

00:06:11.600 Yeah.

00:06:12.080 So I guess he's a journalist, but he's also a terrorist apologist and a critic of America

00:06:18.320 and a longtime member of a terrorist affiliation called the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:06:24.140 And he's a buddy of bin Laden. 0.60

00:06:25.620 So that's who he is.

00:06:26.400 And I'm not saying there aren't any nuances or gray areas in there.

00:06:29.940 But I really don't care about nuances.

00:06:32.640 He's not a lovely man.

00:06:35.140 And more to the point, he's not an American. 0.52

00:06:36.840 He's not a Canadian. 0.99

00:06:37.900 He's a Saudi who got offside with the Saudis and they lured him into the Saudi consulate

00:06:43.500 in Turkey and they murdered him.

00:06:45.740 And that's nasty.

00:06:46.840 But I think he's nasty.

00:06:50.500 And I know Turkey's nasty. 1.00

00:06:52.900 I think we're talking about a bunch of nasty people here.

00:06:56.560 Now, the BBC went through the details of the murder.

00:06:59.660 They did a great job in this story.

00:07:01.360 It's quite shocking.

00:07:02.640 A hit squad flying in on private jets.

00:07:07.520 Allegedly a recording of the sounds of the killing.

00:07:10.440 There was a claim that Khashoggi had his Apple watch on and recorded everything.

00:07:15.840 There was that story that even showed the flights of the private jets.

00:07:19.680 Anyways, but a recording has been shopped around by the Turks.

00:07:26.800 How would they have that recording?

00:07:29.480 But they say they do.

00:07:30.820 And the Turks gave that recording to spy agencies in the West, including to Canada and the United

00:07:35.760 States.

00:07:36.140 Here's what Trudeau and the state broadcaster here says.

00:07:40.800 Trudeau, Erdogan speak.

00:07:42.300 I think the shared audio is the latest move by Turkey to maintain international pressure

00:07:48.000 on Saudi Arabia over the killing.

00:07:51.520 Trudeau said he brought the subject up during a recent phone call with Turkish President Recep

00:07:56.740 Erdogan.

00:07:57.560 And briefly, again, when the two met on the weekend in Paris, Trudeau said he thanked Erdogan

00:08:02.400 for his strength in responding to the Khashoggi situation.

00:08:08.060 Now, I'm not pro-murder.

00:08:10.320 If someone is a terrorist, kill him in the field.

00:08:13.500 But if he's just a terrorist apologist in the streets, you can charge him with a crime.

00:08:18.420 Deport him.

00:08:20.040 You don't lure him into a building and murder him.

00:08:22.760 But Turkey and Erdogan in particular, I mean, I guess technically Erdogan was elected president

00:08:29.440 and technically Turkey is still a part of NATO for some reason I don't understand.

00:08:34.220 But Turkey happens to be the world's greatest imprisoner of journalists, too.

00:08:38.980 And they do plenty of murder, too.

00:08:41.300 They have more prisoners in prison than even China does, if you can believe it.

00:08:47.740 Even more than North Korea or Iran do. 0.87

00:08:51.160 Erdogan is not quite as bad a tyrant as the Saudis are, I don't think. 0.99

00:08:55.700 But he sure is trying to catch up.

00:08:57.440 And they're both murderous regimes.

00:09:00.900 But again, why should Canadians care? 0.98

00:09:05.740 There's 7 billion people in the world.

00:09:07.560 Why do we care about him?

00:09:09.080 Why should America care? 0.81

00:09:11.660 Because it's spectacular news.

00:09:14.000 A dramatic hit squad.

00:09:15.640 A crazy story about being hacked up in a consulate and carried out in parts.

00:09:19.940 That's crazy.

00:09:20.760 That's gross.

00:09:22.040 Sure, it's journalistically interesting.

00:09:23.960 But I'm sorry.

00:09:25.400 That actually happens all the time in the worst places in the world.

00:09:28.320 And Turkey and Saudi Arabia have a feud.

00:09:30.760 It's religious.

00:09:31.380 It's political.

00:09:31.880 It's cultural.

00:09:32.360 It's historical.

00:09:33.220 It's about regional power, regional power, whatever.

00:09:35.940 And this guy Khashoggi was in the middle of it.

00:09:38.720 How is that something for Canada or America to weigh in about again?

00:09:44.180 If Khashoggi were a citizen of Canada or America, you bet. 0.98

00:09:48.680 We have to defend our citizens around the world.

00:09:51.040 Funny that Trudeau doesn't actually do that for citizens, though.

00:09:55.560 He doesn't help Canadian citizens who are held hostage by Muslim terrorists. 0.99

00:10:00.540 He let them be killed.

00:10:02.600 There are Canadian citizens rotting in prison in China right now on trumped up charges.

00:10:06.820 Do you think Trudeau even mentioned the name Hussein Salil when he was in China meeting his dictator friends?

00:10:14.400 There's a Canadian woman, as you know, who was raped and then murdered in Iran.

00:10:18.400 And yet Trudeau wants to reestablish diplomatic ties with them.

00:10:22.400 Those are all Canadians I'm talking about.

00:10:24.440 But some Saudi activist who hung out with bin Laden is killed in Turkey by Saudi Arabia.

00:10:31.480 And I know that's sad for his family.

00:10:34.180 And maybe it's even sad for the world, but I don't quite see it.

00:10:37.900 But why is that a political thing for Canada's prime minister to call up the president of Turkey?

00:10:41.820 What's the connection to us?

00:10:44.580 Because he wrote a column for the Washington Post.

00:10:46.740 So what?

00:10:48.480 Listen, I'm happy to quarrel with the Saudis. 1.00

00:10:50.680 You may know that I wrote a book with a chapter to that effect.

00:10:53.840 It's called Ethical Oil.

00:10:55.220 I say let's cut off Saudi oil imports to Canada by replacing their conflict oil with Canadian ethical oil.

00:11:02.140 Let's build a pipeline from Alberta to the east.

00:11:04.340 Turn off the taps from Saudi. 1.00

00:11:05.980 That's been my view for a decade.

00:11:08.800 Now, to Trudeau, it's better to virtue signal over some foreign symbol than defend our own national interests

00:11:14.320 and actually hurt Saudi Arabia financially.

00:11:16.560 We want to hurt Saudi Arabia. 1.00

00:11:17.540 Cut off their oil sales to us.

00:11:19.560 By Canadian instead. 0.99

00:11:22.280 So, yeah, don't take Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland seriously on Saudi Arabia.

00:11:25.500 Of course you wouldn't.

00:11:26.220 I mean, if they were serious about hurting Saudi Arabia, if they really cared, 0.69

00:11:30.740 they would cut off oil imports and they'd cancel that huge arms deal.

00:11:35.220 They're actually selling Saudi Arabia the tools to kill. 0.98

00:11:39.040 Look at this headline.

00:11:40.300 Trudeau holds out option of canceling arms sale to Saudi Arabia over journalists killing.

00:11:45.320 And then that sub-headline, we have frozen export permits before.

00:11:49.580 We will, I can't even say without laughing, we will not hesitate to do so again, says PM.

00:11:54.840 Really?

00:11:55.940 Do you really think Trudeau would cancel a billion dollar arms sale?

00:12:01.120 No, I don't think so.

00:12:04.420 He actually loves Saudi Arabia too much.

00:12:06.200 He just wants to be flirty with the idea on TV.

00:12:08.700 He knows Khashoggi is somehow cool these days, so he really wants to seem woke.

00:12:14.000 He'll do nothing.

00:12:15.120 He never will.

00:12:15.920 He never has.

00:12:16.420 And then there's Donald Trump.

00:12:18.820 See, Trump is a grown-up.

00:12:19.960 You might not like him, but he's a grown-up.

00:12:21.780 And America is a grown-up country.

00:12:23.760 And Saudi Arabia, that awful, bigoted, racist, terror-supporting OPEC dictatorship, 0.99

00:12:29.540 Saudi Arabia is an important country.

00:12:32.420 Economically, it produces about 10 million barrels of oil a day.

00:12:36.020 And they have the ability and the willingness to create price shocks by cutting off or ramping

00:12:42.260 up supplies.

00:12:42.940 So that's actually important to the whole world.

00:12:46.660 And Saudi Arabia has money and influence in the region.

00:12:49.420 And it is a counterweight to Iran, Sunni versus Shia. 0.93

00:12:53.880 And Saudi Arabia could possibly be part of a regional peace deal with Israel.

00:12:58.120 Could be, I don't know, the very first trip that Donald Trump went to as president back

00:13:02.260 in May of 2017 was to Saudi Arabia.

00:13:05.240 What do you think of that?

00:13:06.400 The first.

00:13:07.360 Not to Mexico.

00:13:08.340 Not to Canada.

00:13:10.020 To Saudi Arabia.

00:13:10.720 And then he went to Jerusalem, and then he went to Rome, including the Vatican.

00:13:13.720 Do you remember that?

00:13:14.320 The three great monotheistic religions.

00:13:16.940 But he went to Saudi Arabia first.

00:13:18.400 He whipped them hard and publicly on terrorism.

00:13:23.300 So Mr. Blunt speaking truth teller, Trump, do you remember what he said to the Saudis?

00:13:28.880 Listen.

00:13:29.080 But above all, we must be united in pursuing the one goal that transcends every other consideration.

00:13:38.460 That goal is to meet history's great test, to conquer extremism and vanquish the forces

00:13:46.180 that terrorism brings with it every single time.

00:13:51.240 Young Muslim boys and girls should be able to grow up free from fear, safe from violence,

00:13:59.300 and innocent of hatred.

00:14:01.740 When young Muslim men and women should have the chance to build a new era of prosperity for themselves,

00:14:10.020 it has to be done.

00:14:12.560 And we have to let them do it.

00:14:14.320 With God's help, this summit will mark the beginning of the end for those who practice terror

00:14:21.380 and spread its vile creed.

00:14:23.880 Yeah, that ain't Obama giving the speech, is it?

00:14:28.840 He started making demands of them.

00:14:30.080 And by the way, they were happy to do it.

00:14:31.400 They were just happy to have someone who didn't favor Iran like Barack Obama did.

00:14:36.540 And Muslim Brotherhood, Obama had the president of Egypt to pose for the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:14:43.320 Saudis are grateful to have Trump. 0.65

00:14:44.940 And Trump has been trying to use Saudi Arabia ever since for America's interests.

00:14:51.060 He presses them all the time, including on Twitter just today,

00:14:55.300 to lower the price of oil, to make life more affordable in America.

00:15:00.280 When's the last time you heard an American president do that so bluntly?

00:15:03.780 He presses Saudis to buy more American goods.

00:15:06.920 He presses the Saudis to stop quarreling with Israel.

00:15:09.840 He does it on Twitter, so it's weird, but he does it.

00:15:13.460 So do you think that Donald Trump would jeopardize all of his work with Saudi Arabia,

00:15:19.040 the low oil price, that's not great for Alberta, but it's great for America and the world,

00:15:25.340 the trade with Saudi Arabia, the regional counterweight to Iran,

00:15:28.300 the possibility of peace with Israel, because some Muslim Brotherhood journalist activist was killed?

00:15:33.980 I mean, I'm sorry it happened, I'm sure.

00:15:36.220 I mean, murder is not a good thing.

00:15:37.700 But if we were going to set foreign policy by how dictatorships treat their own citizens,

00:15:41.760 yeah, we'd have no embassies in China, Russia, half of Asia, most of Africa,

00:15:47.860 all the Muslim Middle East countries.

00:15:49.700 We just wouldn't even have a foreign affairs department, if that's what we did.

00:15:54.440 Is that really how foreign policy should be made?

00:15:57.720 Even Trudeau won't take tiny little baby steps.

00:16:00.320 He'll virtue signal, but he'll do nothing.

00:16:03.160 Trump has to be a grown-up, because someone has to be.

00:16:05.620 And so Trump was.

00:16:07.500 And he was grilled and questioned and pressed on the subject of Khashoggi.

00:16:11.820 And look, he sent his Secretary of State to Saudi Arabia about this subject.

00:16:17.140 And Trump himself personally spoke with the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.

00:16:21.460 But at the end of the day, sorry, no matter how mean,

00:16:26.600 no matter how barbaric Saudi Arabia was to their guy, 0.84

00:16:29.960 it just isn't the grown-up thing to do to wreck an entire regional alliance

00:16:34.800 because of one sad and horrific act.

00:16:37.920 And let me read to you Trump's statement in its full Trumpiness.

00:16:45.620 He put out a statement, and it's incredible.

00:16:50.160 And the left went nuts when Trump released this.

00:16:52.800 I think he released it last night.

00:16:53.740 I mean, how many presidential memos have eight exclamation points in the first starters?

00:17:01.420 But mainly, Trump does what he always do.

00:17:04.080 He speaks the unvarnished truth.

00:17:05.560 The same truth that every American and, by the way,

00:17:07.940 Canadian and British and French leader has spoken for decades.

00:17:10.540 But Trump did it more truthfully and with less diplomatic fibbing.

00:17:14.920 Okay, now I'm going to read so much to you, but you'll see why.

00:17:19.520 Okay, so this is going to take a few minutes.

00:17:21.080 But I promise you, you won't see this anywhere else.

00:17:24.600 And I promise you, you'll be shaking your head saying,

00:17:26.860 damn straight.

00:17:28.200 Okay, ready?

00:17:30.020 Statement from President Donald J. Trump on standing with Saudi Arabia.

00:17:34.960 This is from the White House website.

00:17:38.080 And then look at that.

00:17:39.000 America first!

00:17:40.320 The world is a very dangerous place!

00:17:43.220 How about that for the beginning of a presidential statement?

00:17:48.300 You know what?

00:17:49.160 And it just gets better.

00:17:52.060 The country of Iran, as an example, is responsible for a bloody proxy war

00:17:55.740 against Saudi Arabia and Yemen,

00:17:57.560 trying to destabilize Iraq's fragile attempt at democracy,

00:18:00.700 supporting the terror group Hezbollah in Lebanon,

00:18:02.900 propping up dictator Bashar Assad in Syria,

00:18:04.920 who has killed millions of his own citizens,

00:18:06.960 and much more.

00:18:08.040 Likewise, the Iranians have killed many Americans 1.00

00:18:10.260 and other innocent people throughout the Middle East.

00:18:12.680 Iran states openly and with great force,

00:18:14.500 death to America and death to Israel, 1.00

00:18:16.040 Iran is considered the world-leading sponsor of terror.

00:18:19.060 On the other hand, Saudi Arabia would gladly withdraw from Yemen 1.00

00:18:23.300 if the Iranians would agree to leave. 0.63

00:18:25.200 They would immediately provide desperately needed humanitarian assistance.

00:18:29.240 Additionally, Saudi Arabia has agreed to spend billions of dollars

00:18:31.680 in leading the fight against radical Islamic terrorism.

00:18:34.320 Now, you can agree or disagree with whether those things are going to happen,

00:18:39.660 but you see what he's doing.

00:18:41.860 He's giving a class on diplomacy 101,

00:18:45.800 otherwise known as real life.

00:18:48.140 On other things that might be as, you know,

00:18:51.300 important as virtue signaling about a Muslim Brotherhood operative.

00:18:56.720 As in, what he's talking about there is more important

00:19:00.240 than virtue signaling about a Muslim Brotherhood operative.

00:19:03.440 Would you agree with me?

00:19:04.900 That what he's listed there is more important.

00:19:06.920 In fact, he talked about the lives of millions,

00:19:08.340 not the life of one.

00:19:09.940 I'm sorry that's foreign affairs.

00:19:11.820 It's not very nice, isn't it?

00:19:13.720 But what about domestic affairs?

00:19:15.180 Again, grown-up stuff.

00:19:17.340 A bit less dreamy than Justin Trudeau's fancy socks,

00:19:20.760 but it's real life.

00:19:21.760 Here, I'm going to read the next part of Trump's statement.

00:19:24.140 He switches from the foreign affairs to the domestic.

00:19:27.380 Take a look.

00:19:29.560 After my heavily negotiated trip to Saudi Arabia last year,

00:19:32.960 the kingdom agreed to spend and invest $450 billion in the United States.

00:19:39.060 This is a record amount of money.

00:19:40.340 It will create hundreds of thousands of jobs,

00:19:42.460 tremendous economic development,

00:19:43.880 and much additional wealth for the United States.

00:19:46.300 Of the $450 billion,

00:19:48.240 $110 billion will be spent on the purchase of military equipment

00:19:51.440 from Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon,

00:19:53.880 and many other great U.S. defense contractors.

00:19:56.220 If we foolishly cancel these contracts,

00:19:58.340 Russia and China would be the enormous beneficiaries 0.98

00:20:00.700 and very happy to acquire all of this newfound business.

00:20:03.760 It would be a wonderful gift to them

00:20:05.040 directly from the United States!

00:20:07.000 Exclamation point.

00:20:10.000 Is a human life worth $450 billion in trade?

00:20:13.520 We don't like to think that way,

00:20:14.940 or at least talk that way, right?

00:20:16.340 Because we say that every life is invaluable,

00:20:19.220 which is true.

00:20:20.260 It's invaluable.

00:20:21.080 You can't put a value on it,

00:20:22.520 but a president can't be sentimental.

00:20:24.600 A president has to put a value on it.

00:20:26.800 And frankly, how is giving China and Russia

00:20:30.000 that $450 billion changing the world at all,

00:20:34.180 other than making America poorer?

00:20:35.400 Let me read some more.

00:20:37.720 The crime against Jamal Khashoggi was a terrible one,

00:20:41.080 and one that our country does not condone.

00:20:42.740 Indeed, we have taken strong action

00:20:44.260 against those already known to have participated in the murder.

00:20:47.280 After great independent research,

00:20:48.680 we now know many details of this horrible crime.

00:20:50.920 We have already sanctioned 17 Saudis 1.00

00:20:53.240 known to have been involved in the murder of Mr. Khashoggi

00:20:55.540 and the disposal of his body.

00:20:58.540 Representatives of Saudi Arabia say that Jamal Khashoggi

00:21:00.520 was an enemy of the state

00:21:01.740 and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood,

00:21:03.580 but my decision is in no way based on that.

00:21:06.180 This is an unacceptable and horrible crime.

00:21:08.200 King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman

00:21:11.480 vigorously deny any knowledge of the planning

00:21:13.260 or execution of the murder of Mr. Khashoggi.

00:21:15.280 Our intelligence agencies continue to assess all information,

00:21:18.180 but it could very well be that the Crown Prince

00:21:20.180 had knowledge of this tragic event.

00:21:22.020 Maybe he did, and maybe he didn't!

00:21:24.640 Exclamation point.

00:21:28.320 Now, of course, Donald Trump knows

00:21:30.280 it was ordered by the Crown Prince.

00:21:33.740 Mohammed bin Salman, or MBS, as he's known.

00:21:37.220 And MBS knows that Trump's nose.

00:21:41.520 And MBS is surely grateful that Trump

00:21:43.940 is going along with this fiction.

00:21:45.980 That's diplomacy.

00:21:48.840 And MBS will surely be very grateful to Trump

00:21:51.780 and give Trump many concessions in return

00:21:54.880 for this fiction.

00:21:58.620 Do you doubt that's how deals work?

00:22:00.500 If so, you ought to read a little book

00:22:02.180 called The Art of the Deal.

00:22:03.100 Well, that's real life, people.

00:22:06.780 Let me read some more.

00:22:09.620 That being said, we will never know

00:22:11.220 all the facts surrounding the murder

00:22:12.540 of Mr. Jamal Khashoggi.

00:22:14.320 In any case, our relationship

00:22:15.760 is with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

00:22:18.060 They have been a great ally

00:22:19.380 in our very important fight against Iran.

00:22:21.580 The United States intends to remain

00:22:22.860 a steadfast partner of Saudi Arabia

00:22:24.180 to ensure the interests of our country,

00:22:26.560 Israel, and all other partners in the region.

00:22:29.080 It is our paramount goal to fully eliminate

00:22:31.600 the threat of terrorism throughout the world.

00:22:33.820 Now, it goes on a little bit longer,

00:22:35.360 but that's enough.

00:22:37.620 Are you shocked by Donald Trump's statement?

00:22:40.140 If so, can you tell me what part exactly?

00:22:44.520 And now I'm going to guess you might say

00:22:46.240 because he believes the lies

00:22:47.720 of the murderous Saudi king.

00:22:49.580 Well, he says maybe he does,

00:22:51.480 maybe he doesn't.

00:22:52.940 There's a bit of a deliberate ambiguity there.

00:22:55.000 But don't be naive.

00:22:56.200 Of course he doesn't.

00:22:57.420 Any more than any American president

00:22:59.560 believes the lies of foreign leaders,

00:23:02.620 either Democrats or dictators.

00:23:04.260 Are you shocked by the fact

00:23:05.500 that Trump so brazenly refers to oil

00:23:07.100 and trade and military alliances?

00:23:08.960 Why?

00:23:09.720 What do you think America's relationship

00:23:10.960 with Saudi Arabia was built on?

00:23:12.620 Why do you think America

00:23:13.360 even cares about Saudi Arabia?

00:23:15.520 What is shocking about any of this

00:23:16.780 other than we actually have a president

00:23:18.740 who says whatever's on his mind

00:23:20.360 when the fancy people know better

00:23:21.840 than to be so candid?

00:23:22.820 That whole part about maybe he did it,

00:23:24.280 maybe he didn't, how do I know?

00:23:25.640 Well, that's gorgeous and honest.

00:23:28.000 Normally people don't say that out loud,

00:23:29.560 but I'm sorry, that is real life.

00:23:32.300 And anyone who says Trump is coarsening the world

00:23:34.800 with this diplomacy should answer

00:23:37.060 what exactly they'd like the West to do

00:23:40.500 about bad behavior of dictatorships

00:23:43.640 towards their own citizens.

00:23:44.980 And by the way, they can start

00:23:46.060 by asking about China too.

00:23:48.320 And maybe they can write their answer

00:23:50.100 on their Chinese-made smartphone

00:23:52.680 or their Chinese-made laptop computer.

00:23:56.440 Look, I'm for peace and freedom and civil rights.

00:23:59.680 And I hate the Saudis. 1.00

00:24:02.720 And I hate the Turks. 1.00

00:24:03.660 And I hate Iran and ISIS even more. 0.65

00:24:08.860 And this Jamal Khashoggi, yeah, it is sad.

00:24:11.260 But he's not high up on my list

00:24:14.140 of the world's victims.

00:24:17.280 So what do you think?

00:24:19.980 Well, let me know.

00:24:22.260 Stay with us, boy.

00:24:23.120 Airbnb is like Uber,

00:24:42.400 but instead of driving your own car for other people,

00:24:45.900 you rent out your own room to other people.

00:24:48.840 It lets you turn your house or apartment

00:24:51.160 into a hotel.

00:24:52.420 For cash, it's extremely popular.

00:24:55.720 And there are Airbnbs in 81,000

00:24:59.820 different towns and cities.

00:25:02.640 But this week, Airbnb announced

00:25:05.120 that they are banning Airbnb listings

00:25:08.360 in disputed territories of the West Bank.

00:25:12.120 But here's the catch.

00:25:14.140 They're only banning Jewish homeowners 1.00

00:25:17.780 from listing their house on Airbnb.

00:25:20.780 Airbnb, Muslims are still welcome to do so. 1.00

00:25:24.140 As you can see from the press release

00:25:26.000 on the Airbnb page,

00:25:27.940 they call it listings in disputed regions.

00:25:31.480 And it's true that the region is disputed,

00:25:34.120 but they still allow Muslim customers

00:25:36.800 in those disputed regions.

00:25:38.540 I guess it's the Jews who are in dispute.

00:25:41.520 Joining us now via Skype from Breitbart.com

00:25:46.000 is our friend Joel Pollack.

00:25:47.800 Joel, welcome to the show.

00:25:48.920 This really, really feels like Airbnb

00:25:52.540 is taking sides in a political dispute,

00:25:55.640 which they haven't done anywhere else,

00:25:58.140 like Tibet or Burma.

00:26:00.020 They have listings there.

00:26:01.860 Only in the West Bank

00:26:03.160 are they becoming discriminating.

00:26:05.820 Am I right on that?

00:26:08.500 Right.

00:26:09.500 The policy appears only to apply

00:26:12.160 to Judea and Samaria,

00:26:14.540 areas across the 1949 armistice line

00:26:17.740 in Israel.

00:26:19.760 And the really objectionable thing,

00:26:22.760 as you pointed out,

00:26:23.660 is it only applies to Israelis,

00:26:25.520 does not seem to apply to Palestinians,

00:26:27.740 putting their homes up for rent on Airbnb.

00:26:30.580 I don't know how many units

00:26:31.680 there would be there,

00:26:33.100 but the policy is discriminatory.

00:26:35.960 And even some more moderate voices

00:26:38.380 who might normally not favor boycotts

00:26:40.560 of companies

00:26:41.540 have really expressed their outrage.

00:26:43.520 They've called this

00:26:44.060 a discrimination against Jews.

00:26:46.300 The statement by Airbnb

00:26:48.540 is also very curious.

00:26:50.880 They basically say that

00:26:52.160 the dispute over this land

00:26:54.580 is the core of the conflict.

00:26:56.380 And if there's any myth

00:26:58.000 that has been debunked

00:27:00.420 over the last two decades,

00:27:02.100 it's that that land

00:27:03.520 is at the core of the conflict.

00:27:04.900 It's not.

00:27:05.420 The core of the conflict

00:27:06.420 is the refusal of Palestinians 1.00

00:27:08.880 to accept Israel itself.

00:27:11.840 And even though the land

00:27:12.980 across the 1949 armistice line

00:27:14.960 is land in disputed territory,

00:27:17.160 when Israel pulled out of Gaza,

00:27:19.620 for example,

00:27:20.580 that did not end Palestinian violence

00:27:23.140 against Israel from Gaza.

00:27:24.300 It only accelerated terror

00:27:26.420 and violence from Gaza.

00:27:28.980 And that's really the core of the conflict.

00:27:31.840 The core of the conflict

00:27:32.420 is the Palestinian rejection 0.70

00:27:34.240 of Israel's right to exist, 0.92

00:27:36.120 of Jewish self-determination, etc.

00:27:38.000 In fact, when the parties

00:27:39.100 were close to a deal in 2000,

00:27:41.240 one of the things that Yasser Arafat,

00:27:43.020 the late leader

00:27:44.080 of the Palestine Liberation Organization,

00:27:46.020 one of the things he apparently did

00:27:47.200 was denied any Jewish historical presence

00:27:49.740 on the Temple Mount,

00:27:50.620 which is just absurd.

00:27:51.620 But that's the level of denial.

00:27:54.280 That's how deep it goes

00:27:55.440 among Palestinian leaders.

00:27:57.740 And that's why there's still a conflict.

00:27:59.540 Yeah.

00:27:59.940 Well, what's odd is that a company

00:28:02.920 that has customers

00:28:05.540 of every possible stripe

00:28:07.380 would take sides in any conflict.

00:28:10.400 I mean, like I say,

00:28:11.080 they're willing to rent out homes

00:28:13.520 in Lhasa, Tibet,

00:28:16.040 which you could make a case

00:28:18.820 that that is illegally occupied

00:28:22.260 by the Chinese dictatorship.

00:28:24.360 They rent out homes

00:28:26.580 in the Rohingya homeland

00:28:29.200 of Rakhine, Burma.

00:28:31.480 I checked.

00:28:32.320 They rent out homes

00:28:33.060 in the Uyghur homeland

00:28:35.480 of Xinjiang, China,

00:28:36.920 where they have mass re-education camps.

00:28:39.780 So it's very, in Crimea,

00:28:42.020 it's hard to find a place

00:28:43.700 in the world

00:28:44.300 where Airbnb won't do business.

00:28:46.840 Once you start picking sides

00:28:49.560 of these territorial disputes,

00:28:51.220 it theoretically could snowball

00:28:53.240 to everywhere.

00:28:54.440 I mean, even in Canada,

00:28:55.480 we have aboriginal land claims

00:28:57.820 that are not extinct.

00:28:59.620 But they only choose the Jews. 0.99

00:29:01.680 And that's what's so weird.

00:29:05.480 Right.

00:29:06.260 The other thing is the areas

00:29:08.040 in which people are being banned

00:29:11.360 from listing their property

00:29:12.600 in Judea and Samaria

00:29:14.480 are largely towns

00:29:16.380 that are going to be part of Israel

00:29:17.820 in any final peace agreement.

00:29:20.360 This is almost universally recognized.

00:29:22.160 Places like Efrat, for example.

00:29:23.740 Efrat was an area

00:29:25.140 that Jews lived in before 1948.

00:29:26.780 They were expelled

00:29:27.800 by the Jordanian army

00:29:29.160 during the War of Independence

00:29:31.300 for Israel.

00:29:33.160 And they only returned after 1967.

00:29:36.760 But that area was, in fact,

00:29:38.860 inhabited by Jews before 1948.

00:29:41.140 And now is a popular suburb

00:29:44.100 south of Jerusalem.

00:29:45.360 And it's almost certainly

00:29:46.660 going to be part of Israel 0.59

00:29:47.620 once that land

00:29:49.260 does have its final borders

00:29:51.400 in a peace deal

00:29:52.600 that we're maybe going to see

00:29:54.440 the outlines of

00:29:55.040 from the Trump administration.

00:29:56.160 So the idea that Airbnb

00:29:57.440 would prejudice that peace deal,

00:30:00.600 in fact, in essence,

00:30:01.760 oppose that peace deal

00:30:02.860 by saying that we're not going

00:30:04.400 to recognize the Israeli presence

00:30:06.580 in areas that were historically Jewish.

00:30:08.880 And by the way,

00:30:09.340 nobody's clear as to whether

00:30:10.380 their policy applies

00:30:11.260 to the old city of Jerusalem,

00:30:13.800 East Jerusalem,

00:30:14.460 where there are lots of Jewish homes.

00:30:16.660 So nobody's really clear

00:30:17.820 what they're doing.

00:30:18.700 And the funny thing is

00:30:19.860 that Airbnb seems to think

00:30:21.500 that it knows where

00:30:23.200 the boundary should be

00:30:24.780 better than the party

00:30:26.660 is themselves.

00:30:27.460 So if anything,

00:30:29.580 this is actually

00:30:30.100 a disruptive gesture.

00:30:32.060 It actually frustrates peace

00:30:33.260 because it will encourage

00:30:34.140 Palestinians to boycott, 0.99

00:30:35.540 to demonize,

00:30:36.360 to delegitimize Israel

00:30:37.860 rather than dealing with Israel.

00:30:39.840 And all the wrong people

00:30:41.340 are happy with this result.

00:30:42.580 All of the extreme

00:30:44.040 far-left BDS enthusiasts

00:30:47.080 think this is great

00:30:48.260 because Airbnb

00:30:48.920 is a well-known tech company.

00:30:50.500 And they think

00:30:50.920 if they can do this with Airbnb,

00:30:52.100 they can push Google,

00:30:53.520 Facebook, Twitter,

00:30:54.240 other tech giants

00:30:56.080 to start excluding Israelis

00:30:59.240 or taking actions,

00:31:01.560 taking sides

00:31:02.420 in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

00:31:04.280 And I think they have

00:31:05.080 some justification with that.

00:31:06.420 You know,

00:31:06.900 all of these tech giants,

00:31:08.640 they're all based

00:31:09.440 in Silicon Valley

00:31:10.320 or San Francisco.

00:31:11.540 And you just go on

00:31:12.780 their websites

00:31:14.140 and you see

00:31:15.120 how chock-full of

00:31:17.240 far-left Obama

00:31:19.060 or Hillary Clinton staff

00:31:20.780 they are.

00:31:21.740 I mean,

00:31:21.880 I went on Airbnb's

00:31:23.580 senior executive team

00:31:25.920 and their head

00:31:26.640 of global policy

00:31:29.000 is Chris Lehane.

00:31:30.920 Now,

00:31:31.080 you probably know him

00:31:31.800 better than I do, Joel.

00:31:33.060 He was a senior

00:31:34.160 Al Gore

00:31:35.100 and Bill Clinton type

00:31:36.380 lodged at Airbnb.

00:31:38.300 He would have called

00:31:38.960 the shots here.

00:31:40.140 You have Obama staffers,

00:31:42.900 Hillary Clinton staffers.

00:31:44.320 It really is

00:31:45.020 a revolving door

00:31:46.060 between

00:31:46.680 far-left Democrat politics

00:31:49.260 and Silicon Valley.

00:31:50.900 I'm sure this was

00:31:53.580 Chris Lehane's decision.

00:31:54.920 I mean,

00:31:55.460 that's his title,

00:31:56.360 head of global policy.

00:31:58.880 I actually think

00:32:00.300 this could spread

00:32:01.320 and I already see

00:32:02.300 the BDS groups

00:32:03.160 trying to lean

00:32:04.020 on other

00:32:05.460 home rental apps

00:32:08.600 to get them

00:32:09.140 to follow suit.

00:32:10.740 And frankly,

00:32:11.880 I don't think

00:32:12.360 that even

00:32:12.840 nominal Jews

00:32:14.600 like Mark Zuckerberg,

00:32:16.160 the head of Facebook,

00:32:17.060 would really stop this much.

00:32:18.340 I mean,

00:32:18.600 they're left-wing.

00:32:19.840 They're not particularly

00:32:20.520 pro-Israel

00:32:21.300 and they go

00:32:22.040 with the flow.

00:32:24.400 Right,

00:32:25.120 right.

00:32:25.560 And look,

00:32:26.200 I think that

00:32:27.940 that's why it's incumbent

00:32:28.760 on people to oppose this.

00:32:30.040 I mean,

00:32:30.160 I've deactivated

00:32:30.940 my Airbnb account

00:32:32.000 and I spent

00:32:32.940 probably about $1,000

00:32:34.140 on Airbnb

00:32:35.540 this year so far,

00:32:37.320 ironically enough,

00:32:38.360 in Israel.

00:32:41.080 You know,

00:32:41.480 it's,

00:32:42.500 I think,

00:32:43.520 a gesture one can take.

00:32:44.500 Other people

00:32:44.920 are doing the same.

00:32:45.740 My tweet

00:32:46.740 about deactivating

00:32:47.500 my account

00:32:47.860 was retweeted

00:32:48.400 thousands of times.

00:32:49.460 Other people

00:32:49.940 seem to be doing

00:32:50.480 the same.

00:32:50.860 There are alternatives.

00:32:51.880 There's VRBO.

00:32:52.780 There's other message boards

00:32:54.640 in Israel

00:32:55.680 if you want to go to Israel

00:32:56.540 and find somewhere else

00:32:57.680 to stay.

00:32:58.040 It's very tough

00:32:58.560 for people

00:32:58.980 who depend

00:32:59.700 on Airbnb

00:33:00.160 for an income

00:33:01.080 to delist

00:33:02.740 from Airbnb.

00:33:03.600 So I understand

00:33:04.100 that,

00:33:04.860 you know,

00:33:05.600 this might be

00:33:06.060 a tough thing

00:33:06.440 for other people

00:33:06.880 to do,

00:33:07.240 but I think

00:33:08.100 the only response

00:33:08.920 to boycott efforts

00:33:10.380 is to boycott

00:33:11.080 the boycotters

00:33:11.880 because

00:33:12.320 what they're doing

00:33:14.120 is toxic.

00:33:15.480 It's actually

00:33:15.880 toxic to peace.

00:33:17.340 It's encouraging

00:33:17.960 Palestinians

00:33:18.700 to dig in,

00:33:19.720 not to negotiate,

00:33:21.360 not to reach an agreement,

00:33:22.760 prolong the conflict.

00:33:23.720 That means more people

00:33:24.440 getting hurt,

00:33:25.040 more people dying.

00:33:26.600 And I think

00:33:27.840 that Airbnb

00:33:28.380 just caved

00:33:29.260 to the pressure.

00:33:30.120 I think that

00:33:30.580 Silicon Valley

00:33:31.740 has moved far left

00:33:33.200 as part of the resistance

00:33:34.960 against the Trump administration.

00:33:37.020 And I think

00:33:37.980 it's a huge mistake.

00:33:39.120 I think that

00:33:39.800 they don't have to like

00:33:40.920 Donald Trump's policies

00:33:41.880 on tech.

00:33:43.160 They don't have to like

00:33:43.760 his policies

00:33:44.200 on the Middle East.

00:33:44.960 But right is right

00:33:46.140 and wrong is wrong

00:33:46.840 and this is wrong.

00:33:48.000 So I think it's important

00:33:49.220 to send a message

00:33:50.120 to the tech giants

00:33:51.360 this actually won't be tolerated.

00:33:53.160 It's odd also

00:33:53.800 because Israel

00:33:55.080 is so important

00:33:55.860 to the tech world.

00:33:56.680 I mean,

00:33:56.800 I read the tech publications,

00:33:58.380 the news

00:33:58.720 from the tech industry daily

00:33:59.980 and Israel

00:34:02.360 and Silicon Valley

00:34:03.140 are very,

00:34:03.920 very closely integrated.

00:34:05.560 There are lots

00:34:06.200 of Silicon Valley companies

00:34:07.300 that depend

00:34:07.780 on Israeli products,

00:34:08.960 on Israeli programs,

00:34:10.180 Israeli software,

00:34:11.140 Israeli patents,

00:34:11.880 Israeli personnel.

00:34:13.160 This is because Israel 1.00

00:34:14.520 has a huge,

00:34:16.400 huge comparative advantage

00:34:17.700 in engineering

00:34:18.440 and the Israelis

00:34:20.540 are very,

00:34:21.120 very good

00:34:21.460 at inventing things.

00:34:22.960 Second to the United States,

00:34:24.080 I think,

00:34:24.360 only in terms

00:34:25.120 of startup companies.

00:34:26.200 And so

00:34:26.440 it's just crazy

00:34:29.040 for Silicon Valley

00:34:30.040 to take this stance.

00:34:31.020 I'm sure there are

00:34:31.420 a lot of people

00:34:32.000 in Silicon Valley

00:34:33.100 and involved

00:34:33.520 with Silicon Valley

00:34:34.140 who are upset.

00:34:34.880 There's a chance

00:34:35.540 Airbnb could even

00:34:36.380 reverse this policy.

00:34:37.420 This policy is a reversal

00:34:38.480 of their previous policy,

00:34:39.500 which was not

00:34:39.920 to get involved.

00:34:40.500 So they may go back

00:34:42.340 to it.

00:34:42.920 I think it's just

00:34:43.900 really important

00:34:44.540 for people to express

00:34:45.380 their opposition

00:34:45.840 to this kind of thing.

00:34:47.180 Otherwise,

00:34:47.740 it just will never stop.

00:34:48.920 And you're going to see

00:34:50.160 not just a grave injustice,

00:34:51.960 but I think you'll see

00:34:53.300 people actually suffer

00:34:54.160 because of things like this.

00:34:55.380 Yeah.

00:34:55.680 Well,

00:34:56.060 thank you for those.

00:34:57.920 I found your comments

00:34:59.420 actually inspiring.

00:35:00.760 We've set up a petition

00:35:01.840 that we are going

00:35:02.540 to deliver

00:35:03.180 to Chris Lehane.

00:35:04.980 If folks want to sign it,

00:35:06.640 go to protestairbnb.com,

00:35:10.400 protestairbnb.com.

00:35:12.300 Last I checked,

00:35:12.960 we had about 10,000 names on it.

00:35:14.980 I'd love to get that

00:35:15.820 over 20,000

00:35:16.760 and we will deliver it

00:35:18.340 to Airbnb in San Francisco.

00:35:20.660 Joel,

00:35:20.840 thanks very much

00:35:21.400 for taking the time

00:35:22.020 with us today.

00:35:23.200 Thank you.

00:35:23.860 All right.

00:35:24.240 There you have it.

00:35:24.580 Joel Pollack,

00:35:25.280 senior editor-at-large

00:35:26.480 at Breitbart.com.

00:35:27.940 Stay with us.

00:35:28.740 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:35:34.980 On my monologue yesterday

00:35:42.780 about Celine Dion's

00:35:43.740 bizarre gender-neutral

00:35:44.880 clothing line,

00:35:45.640 that was so weird,

00:35:46.360 wasn't it?

00:35:46.920 Deborah writes,

00:35:48.440 Celine is certainly living

00:35:49.340 on the dark side of the moon.

00:35:50.880 Those pictures were haunting

00:35:51.780 and truly disturbing.

00:35:52.840 I wouldn't cross the street

00:35:53.760 to see her now.

00:35:55.620 Well, look,

00:35:56.440 I try my best

00:35:58.040 to separate the politics

00:35:59.440 of people in the entertainment industry

00:36:01.620 from their craft.

00:36:03.660 Otherwise,

00:36:03.940 I really wouldn't be able

00:36:05.480 to listen to anything else

00:36:06.560 other than country music.

00:36:08.680 I mean,

00:36:09.740 I try hard.

00:36:11.240 With some actors,

00:36:12.420 I just can't do it.

00:36:13.840 I just can't do it

00:36:15.120 because I can't look at them

00:36:17.600 without thinking

00:36:18.960 in their politics.

00:36:20.340 I don't feel that way

00:36:21.520 about Celine Dion.

00:36:22.320 I think this is some weirdness

00:36:23.660 she's fallen into.

00:36:25.220 I like to imagine

00:36:26.400 if Rene Angeli

00:36:27.420 was still around,

00:36:28.560 he would have steered

00:36:29.300 her away from this.

00:36:30.300 It's dark.

00:36:31.080 I hate it.

00:36:31.820 It doesn't mean

00:36:32.560 I'm going to turn

00:36:33.460 the radio station

00:36:34.460 if a song of hers

00:36:35.220 comes on.

00:36:36.040 But hopefully,

00:36:36.700 some of her fans

00:36:37.700 will get through to her

00:36:38.800 and say,

00:36:39.500 what are you doing?

00:36:42.500 Liza writes,

00:36:43.860 I don't have words

00:36:44.600 for how sick

00:36:45.080 it made me feel

00:36:45.940 when I saw that pic

00:36:46.760 of the two demon babies 0.99

00:36:47.960 and the other ones

00:36:49.080 with what looks like

00:36:49.780 blood spatters,

00:36:50.820 dehumanizing young children

00:36:51.900 and presenting them

00:36:52.600 as all one gender.

00:36:53.920 This is not good.

00:36:54.720 This is not funny.

00:36:55.380 None of it

00:36:55.740 on any level.

00:36:56.520 Yeah, you know,

00:36:58.680 those demon babies 1.00

00:37:01.040 was so, so bad.

00:37:02.500 And I think

00:37:02.800 the last photo

00:37:03.480 I showed

00:37:03.980 of the baby

00:37:06.080 with the skull

00:37:07.220 photoshopped

00:37:09.360 onto his face,

00:37:10.400 that is so,

00:37:12.360 that revels in death

00:37:14.220 and our culture

00:37:15.380 is based on life

00:37:16.340 and we love life.

00:37:18.300 And that's what we love

00:37:19.480 best about kids,

00:37:20.800 isn't it?

00:37:21.540 That they are new life

00:37:23.260 and they're the promise

00:37:24.580 for life

00:37:25.160 and once we die

00:37:26.540 life will continue

00:37:27.440 with them

00:37:27.880 and they're angels.

00:37:29.560 Why do we call them

00:37:30.380 little angels? 0.67

00:37:31.300 Because they're not yet

00:37:32.340 tarnished with sins.

00:37:34.140 We believe that they're

00:37:35.340 born without sins.

00:37:37.940 I mean, I suppose

00:37:38.440 there's a concept

00:37:39.040 of original sin

00:37:40.140 but in real life

00:37:41.280 the reason why

00:37:41.880 everyone loves a baby

00:37:43.160 is because they're

00:37:44.280 as close to perfect

00:37:45.280 as humans get.

00:37:47.620 They haven't,

00:37:48.500 other than original sin

00:37:49.700 and that theological concept

00:37:51.340 of how we've all

00:37:51.980 inherited some sin,

00:37:52.980 when you look at a baby

00:37:54.620 you see purity

00:37:55.680 and to take such purity

00:37:58.760 and to combine it

00:38:00.900 with such ugliness

00:38:02.000 and there's a gag reflex

00:38:05.480 that comes out.

00:38:06.900 We want to gag.

00:38:08.500 What is Celine Dion

00:38:09.540 who is a beautiful woman

00:38:11.020 who sings beautifully

00:38:12.560 and dresses beautifully

00:38:13.620 and presents beautifully,

00:38:15.340 what is she doing

00:38:16.600 reveling in such ugliness?

00:38:20.400 I don't understand it

00:38:22.220 but I wanted to show it to you

00:38:23.660 and I hope you don't mind.

00:38:25.640 Stan writes,

00:38:27.220 Celine is being sardonic

00:38:28.400 in trying to show the world

00:38:29.800 how the elitist cabal

00:38:30.980 is using children

00:38:32.780 and radicalization of children

00:38:34.140 through clothing.

00:38:36.000 She is deeply concerned

00:38:36.780 about the communist UN agenda

00:38:37.900 to brainwash children.

00:38:39.040 Even though she is

00:38:39.640 Celine Dion,

00:38:40.460 she is showing us

00:38:41.120 that it's okay

00:38:41.660 for her to go into a nursery 0.94

00:38:43.000 using her elitism

00:38:44.300 and radicalize children.

00:38:45.520 She is sardonic

00:38:46.260 and actually believes

00:38:46.960 the elite cabal

00:38:47.560 are morally wrong on this.

00:38:48.920 Well, that is

00:38:50.800 a hundred dollar excuse.

00:38:53.060 That is really, really,

00:38:54.800 you're making a pretzel there.

00:38:57.620 You're assuming

00:38:58.700 that the whole thing

00:38:59.600 is so outrageous

00:39:01.000 that the only way

00:39:02.920 she would do it

00:39:03.700 is some sort of a

00:39:04.660 like a double joke.

00:39:07.080 Like think of

00:39:08.020 three chess moves ahead.

00:39:09.340 No, no, no.

00:39:10.140 Occam's razor.

00:39:11.240 You know what

00:39:11.620 Occam's razor is?

00:39:12.860 It's an old philosophical rule.

00:39:15.140 The simplest answer

00:39:16.740 is usually the right one.

00:39:21.160 She's wholly weird.

00:39:23.020 I showed you evidence

00:39:24.260 in her own life,

00:39:26.020 whether it's

00:39:26.860 her relationship

00:39:27.920 with Renee

00:39:29.160 or those strange comments

00:39:32.180 about freezing babies.

00:39:34.380 And again,

00:39:34.760 I got nothing against

00:39:35.620 in vitro fertilization.

00:39:36.840 I believe anyone

00:39:37.640 who wants to make a baby,

00:39:39.320 I wish them good luck

00:39:40.140 and if technology helps,

00:39:41.120 great.

00:39:41.700 But she was weird 0.98

00:39:42.880 about putting a baby

00:39:43.800 in the freezer,

00:39:45.320 an embryo.

00:39:46.620 I don't think

00:39:47.640 it's fake

00:39:48.220 or a double trick.

00:39:49.260 I think that's you

00:39:50.040 trying to salvage

00:39:51.720 your hero.

00:39:53.320 That's my view.

00:39:55.080 Okay, let's switch subjects.

00:39:56.040 On my interview

00:39:56.460 with Lauren Gunter,

00:39:57.140 Bruce writes,

00:39:58.620 oil is our future,

00:39:59.440 not fairy dust

00:40:00.120 energy projects.

00:40:01.480 Not at least

00:40:01.760 just wasting our money

00:40:02.620 to show that

00:40:03.180 she's doing something

00:40:04.000 when she really isn't.

00:40:06.140 Well, look,

00:40:07.700 what, I mean,

00:40:08.340 put aside Brian Topp,

00:40:10.120 the anti-oil extremist

00:40:11.680 Toronto union leader.

00:40:13.380 What are you choosing him for?

00:40:16.560 I mean, seriously,

00:40:17.340 you could choose

00:40:17.960 a random person

00:40:19.040 from the Calgary phone book

00:40:21.020 and they would have

00:40:21.960 more common sense

00:40:23.360 and affinity

00:40:24.220 for the oil and gas sector

00:40:25.340 than Brian Topp.

00:40:26.800 But that's not even

00:40:27.720 the worst part of it.

00:40:30.260 You don't need to send

00:40:31.360 an expert to the oil.

00:40:32.460 We want to find out

00:40:33.260 from the oil executives

00:40:34.100 what's going on here.

00:40:36.140 Well, we all know

00:40:36.780 what's going on here

00:40:37.480 and the problem

00:40:37.940 is not the oil executives

00:40:38.860 who have a solution.

00:40:40.660 The solution is called

00:40:41.280 build the pipelines.

00:40:42.160 So they're not the problem.

00:40:45.760 The problem is

00:40:46.620 the government in Ottawa,

00:40:48.500 the government in BC,

00:40:49.880 the courts,

00:40:51.000 and Indian bands

00:40:53.080 who are bought off

00:40:53.920 by the Tides Foundation

00:40:54.960 and other funds,

00:40:56.380 other foundations.

00:40:57.480 I should tell you

00:40:58.120 that quite a few

00:40:59.000 Indian bands

00:40:59.640 are on side

00:41:00.680 with the pipelines.

00:41:02.500 It's the dramatic actors

00:41:03.960 hired by Tides

00:41:05.000 that aren't.

00:41:05.320 That's what you do.

00:41:06.540 If you truly wanted

00:41:07.780 to fix this problem,

00:41:10.620 you'd hire a former

00:41:11.860 BC New Democrat

00:41:12.780 to lobby Horgan

00:41:14.400 like a former

00:41:16.300 BC New Democrat premier.

00:41:18.620 You'd hire a senior 0.99

00:41:19.960 aboriginal leader

00:41:21.220 like a Phil Fontaine

00:41:22.600 or a Matthew Kuhn

00:41:23.840 come to try and lobby

00:41:25.880 because that's where

00:41:27.020 the problem is.

00:41:28.060 The fact that you're

00:41:28.580 still pretending

00:41:29.100 the problem is in

00:41:29.920 the oil patch shows

00:41:30.740 Rachel Donnelly's the same

00:41:32.240 as she's ever been.

00:41:33.440 All right.

00:41:34.440 Well, what do you think

00:41:35.160 of my comments

00:41:35.740 about Jamal Khashoggi?

00:41:36.960 Look, I don't want

00:41:37.460 someone murdered.

00:41:38.600 I think it's pretty gross.

00:41:40.160 But frankly,

00:41:40.760 when I see the Turks 0.96

00:41:41.640 fighting with the Saudis,

00:41:43.380 I don't feel like

00:41:44.280 I have a dog in that fight.

00:41:46.640 Not a Canadian citizen, 1.00

00:41:48.000 not an American citizen.

00:41:49.400 What research I've done

00:41:50.340 into him shows

00:41:50.880 he's a pretty iffy guy

00:41:51.880 who I don't know

00:41:53.120 if he actually shot anyone

00:41:54.160 with that gun

00:41:55.120 or RPG launcher.

00:41:56.460 But yeah,

00:41:57.200 I wouldn't put Jamal Khashoggi

00:41:58.540 in the top 1,000

00:42:00.360 names of people

00:42:01.260 I care about.

00:42:02.480 around the world

00:42:03.300 with you.

00:42:04.980 Until tomorrow, folks,

00:42:06.080 that's it for all of us here.

00:42:08.960 I'll see you tomorrow.

00:42:10.060 Until then,

00:42:11.040 keep fighting for freedom.

00:42:12.420 Bye-bye.

Rebel News Podcast - November 22, 2018

Saudi Arabia allegedly murders a Muslim Brotherhood activist in Turkey. How much should we care？

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