Rebel News Podcast - SEE the hate propaganda I got in the mail — from the House of Commons

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I read something that I found in my mailbox. Maybe I'm overreacting.

00:00:05.420 But it was a household letter from Carolyn Bennett, my member of parliament here in Toronto.

00:00:09.080 And I think she's gone mad. Or more likely, I think she just handed over the writing of

00:00:13.740 her household mailer to Justin Trudeau's campaign. It basically calls everybody in the writing a

00:00:18.260 racist. And I mean everybody, because there's no answer to her type of multiple choice questions 1.00

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00:00:53.420 Tonight, hate mail in my mailbox here in Toronto in 2019. It's June 18th and this is the Ezra

00:01:01.620 LeVant Show.

00:01:04.340 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:08.060 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:12.140 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my

00:01:16.720 bloody right to do so.

00:01:23.420 I came home and found this in my mailbox. It's a piece of hate mail. It's extremist

00:01:28.860 literature. It divides us by race and other grounds that are illegal under the Human Rights

00:01:33.380 Act. It blames, it stereotypes. It was really shocking. I thought it was gross. And I think

00:01:38.360 it truly is hate propaganda. And I don't think you'll be surprised to know that it's an official

00:01:43.960 publication from the House of Commons, a propaganda leaflet paid for by your tax dollars. It's the

00:01:50.460 liberal newsletter from Carolyn Bennett, the MP for St. Paul's writing, who's literally the whitest 0.99

00:01:55.600 minister of Aboriginal affairs that's genetically possible. I don't just mean that genetically. I

00:02:01.680 mean that culturally. I can't think of anyone less in touch with Aboriginal people than her.

00:02:06.800 It would be like appointing a minister of fisheries from Saskatchewan. I mean, what did Aboriginal 1.00

00:02:11.300 people do to Trudeau to cause him to hate them? So is it some weird punishment for the whole Jody

00:02:15.920 Wilson-Raybould thing? I'll never know why he inflicted this doddering fool on anyone. Maybe 0.99

00:02:23.020 to keep an eye on Seamus O'Regan, who's also in that department too. Anyway, but back to the hate

00:02:27.800 propaganda that she put in my mailbox. So what do you think is important in Canada right now? We're

00:02:32.480 heading into an election. What are some things that are important to you? I mean, just tell me,

00:02:37.200 is it jobs? Taxes probably? Carbon tax? Maybe free trade with the U.S.? Is there a recession coming?

00:02:43.820 Some people say there is. If you're in Toronto, St. Paul's, maybe high housing costs, extremely

00:02:49.580 expensive. Crazy bad traffic. Crime, of course. Lots of homelessness these days. Lots of drugs

00:02:56.240 in the streets made worse by the publicly sanctioned drug shooting galleries. And of course,

00:03:02.260 dump in 50,000 bogus refugees who just walked in across that U.S. border. And of course, Quebec 0.99

00:03:08.100 didn't want them. So they were all bussed over here from Quebec and then dumped in Toronto. Some

00:03:13.280 of them are put up in hotels, but most of them just filling up the hostels and filling up the food

00:03:17.280 banks. Hey, there's a lot of problems in Toronto. And I didn't even mention schools or hospitals. But

00:03:21.600 the only thing in Carolyn Bennett's mailer was about how racist Canadians are. That's the title. 0.91

00:03:28.980 Speaking out against racism. What? Is that a problem? In a majority minority city like Toronto, 0.97

00:03:37.300 we got a black police chief. The greatest public heroes these days are the almost all black sports

00:03:44.840 team, the Raptors, whose champion is a black Jewish musician named Drake. And you're saying the number

00:03:52.440 one issue is racism. And you're whitesplaining this as a privileged, liberal, rich woman. Yeah, 1.00

00:03:59.560 that's exactly what she said, because she cited a poll done by a liberal named Frank Graves. But on

00:04:05.580 this poll, he is actually accurate. He says that 40% of Canadians think we have enough immigration 1.00

00:04:11.840 right now. Thank you very much. According to Angus Reid, 49% of Canadians say that. But Graves just says,

00:04:18.380 if you're against unlimited immigration, you're racist. And Bennett agrees. I'll read you proof in

00:04:26.400 a moment. But there's a delicious part. If you're against immigration, you're a racist. I mean,

00:04:31.360 obviously. But if you're for immigration, this is what's amazing with this hate literature. 0.53

00:04:37.160 If you're an immigrant yourself, or if you're a descendant of immigrants, you are a settler. 0.51

00:04:43.560 And so you're racist, because you're a colonialist oppressor against Aboriginal people. I swear to God. 0.97

00:04:51.760 This piece of hate mail that came into my mailbox, at my expense, calls everyone in a riding a racist.

00:04:58.720 You're either an anti-immigrant racist, because those are apparently the only people who oppose

00:05:03.700 open borders. I'm guessing Aboriginal folks who don't like settlers are therefore racist. 0.65

00:05:09.340 Or if you're pro-immigrant, you're a conquering colonial settler racist.

00:05:16.000 No. I think I know who the racist is. The doddering old white woman who looks at people 1.00

00:05:23.240 and only sees their race. Let me read some of this crud to you, lest you think I'm exaggerating. 0.98

00:05:29.700 Like I say, this is the very first thing in her district-wide mailing. It's almost the only thing,

00:05:34.620 the racism part. She's obsessed. Or maybe it's Trudeau who has commanded all of this

00:05:38.900 his MPs to smear all of their citizens in the same way. I only know the hate mail that was

00:05:43.220 delivered into my mail. So here's what it said. It said,

00:05:46.420 Last month, it was quite alarming to learn in an ECOS poll that about 40% of Canadians feel there

00:05:52.320 are too many immigrants coming to Canada, in this huge country, with almost 90% of Canadians living 1.00

00:05:57.220 within 100 miles of the American border and all-time labor shortages. It seems remarkable that anyone

00:06:03.920 could believe we will not need a robust immigration system to increase our country's productivity 0.99

00:06:08.520 and prosperity. I'm serious. She wrote that. Or someone in Trudeau's office did, probably.

00:06:14.160 Well, yeah, we all live within 100 miles of the U.S. because the northern part of our country

00:06:18.180 is uninhabitable. It's too cold. It's too cold for people. It's too cold for agriculture. It's too

00:06:23.680 far north to be economic. It's too hard to develop. I think all those problems are made worse

00:06:28.020 by government policies. But whatever the reason, we live close to the U.S., we just do. Is she suggesting

00:06:34.600 that new immigrants would or should or could all move to Iqaluit or Inuvik or Whitehorse? What an 0.95

00:06:42.840 idiot. Is she suggesting that new immigrants just off the plane from Syria or Somalia or just across 1.00

00:06:48.380 the border from the U.S., like thousands of Haitians who came up, is she suggesting they're the economic

00:06:54.260 backbone we've been waiting for, that they're doctors and engineers and architects? Yeah, no,

00:06:58.700 they're not. 90% of the Syrians Trudeau brought over were functionally illiterate and the vast 1.00

00:07:04.160 majority remain unemployed to this day. Even Trudeau's new plan of a million migrants in the 0.97

00:07:08.880 next three years, almost half of them under the plan aren't economic. They're either more refugees 1.00

00:07:14.780 or bogus refugees or they are family reunifications, basically grandparents coming over who don't work

00:07:21.420 but will go straight on to pensions and straight into our hospital waiting lines as seniors. So yeah,

00:07:26.660 no, we don't need plane loads from Somalia to keep Canada working. I mean, it will depress wages 1.00

00:07:31.500 to bring in underskilled workers. So yeah, I guess maybe that helps, you know, get cheap later. You

00:07:37.600 get the worst of both worlds. Rent's going higher and wages going lower. But please stop calling me

00:07:42.820 a racist. And the other 40% of Canadians who think you're out of control, we're not racists.

00:07:48.960 Bennett goes on a bit, quoting Frank Graves. He's a longtime anti-conservative bigot who

00:07:53.740 is a pollster too. He once counseled the liberals to paint the Conservative Party as bigots

00:07:58.580 just to provoke them, just to provoke a culture war for the benefit of the election. I mean,

00:08:02.820 the guy is not a real pollster. He's a push pollster, a provocateur, a major Liberal Party

00:08:07.440 donor. But get this, get this. This is from Carolyn Benson's memo. Immigration Minister Ahmed Hassan,

00:08:13.860 himself a refugee from Somalia, responded to the poll by urging,

00:08:16.960 we must remind ourselves that Canada benefits from immigrants regardless of background and that

00:08:22.040 when faced with misinformation, we must fight fear with facts. Yeah, no, no, you can't say that

00:08:28.980 everyone is racist except for you and that everyone is stupid except for you. So I'm going to fight your 1.00

00:08:34.660 fear with my facts. Immigrants who do not speak the language, who don't have our skills, who don't 1.00

00:08:38.880 have our cultural values, they are not working out as well. It's not racism. It's got nothing to do

00:08:43.840 with color. I mean, what do you think of this guy? What would happen to a gay couple in Gaza?

00:08:49.320 They executed according to Islamic law. Islam doesn't endorse gayism. Islam doesn't endorse 0.96

00:08:54.760 homosexuality. Okay, so would you like to see Sharia law in Canada replace Canadian law? 0.88

00:09:00.340 At some point it will. You know, because we have families, we are making babies. You're not.

00:09:06.100 Yeah, the problem with that guy is not the particular hue of his skin. It's probably not even

00:09:11.160 with his skills. I got to tell you, that guy actually sounds quite articulate and I think

00:09:14.500 he sounds educated. It's that he's a crazy, un-Canadian madman who wants to stone gaze to 0.99

00:09:22.780 death. Oh, and he's a bit of a deceitful, dishonest, law-breaking liar too. 1.00

00:09:26.640 When I went for my so-called oath, I was silent. I didn't say anything. It was your responsibility to 0.98

00:09:32.600 make sure you got it out of me. So when I didn't say anything, I'm not liable to any.

00:09:36.980 Did you catch what he said there? He boasted that he stayed silent during his citizenship

00:09:42.760 ceremony when he was supposed to say the oath of citizenship. He laughed saying,

00:09:46.320 ha ha, it's your fault for not making me say it. I didn't say it, nanya. I didn't make the promise. 1.00

00:09:51.800 So he's a law-breaking liar. But then Bennett's letter pivots. You're a bigot if you don't want 0.64

00:09:58.120 immigrants by the million of any sort. But if you're cool with open borders, unlimited immigration,

00:10:02.440 say if you live in a gated community like she does, send your kids to a fancy private school 0.79

00:10:06.740 so there's not a lot of Somali gangs or burkas in your school, you're still a racist. I mean, 0.93

00:10:10.700 that's the title of Bennett's mailing, racism. She writes, we have made many mistakes with respect

00:10:16.340 to the settler attitudes of superiority, which create a dark chapter in our history and untold 0.85

00:10:21.660 image damage to first peoples. We must not make new mistakes by pulling up the drawbridge 1.00

00:10:26.980 and allowing racism and fear of the unknown to hold our country back. Well, hang on. Are you saying

00:10:32.580 that we are settlers? Like we are, but people who come over here now are not settlers? How are we

00:10:40.480 settlers but not new waves of unlimited immigrants? Settlers implies that we built the place from

00:10:47.420 scratch. New immigrants don't really do that. They just sort of move into an apartment or maybe 1.00

00:10:51.000 the raddest Toronto East Hotel paid for by taxpayers. I don't know. Okay, let's open the

00:10:56.920 brochure up now. It's actually a montage of pictures of, surprise, Carolyn Bennett playing

00:11:03.820 the great white savior like the character Daenerys Targaryen from Game of Thrones, this beautiful

00:11:09.320 white-haired white woman who will be the queen savior to all the minorities who rely on her to 0.99

00:11:14.020 white-splain for them. It's sort of pitiful, really. There really aren't any just Canadians in her mind. 1.00

00:11:21.400 It's everyone in their little ethnic grievance group. She just doesn't see a Canadian.

00:11:24.700 Just this grievance and that grievance. Let me read from her letters section, which you absolutely

00:11:31.820 can bank on are from real people, I'm sure. Here's a letter that she says,

00:11:38.100 she says in the letter, she says, I urge you to establish a national strategy to counter online

00:11:44.100 hate. It is now widely known that the perpetrator of the heinous attack on Pittsburgh's Tree of

00:11:49.220 Life synagogue was active in promoting anti-Semitism on social media. Similarly,

00:11:53.960 the recent atrocity that took place at two mosques in Christchurch should remind us of the dangers

00:11:59.420 posed by those who use the internet to promote mass violence. Well, hang on. What's the problem?

00:12:04.480 Is it hate, a natural human emotion, or is it violence? Because so far, this household mailer is,

00:12:10.440 well, it's full of hate. I think it's helpful for Carolyn Bennett to blur hate and violence,

00:12:16.700 isn't it? Because you can call anyone you disagree with hateful. Her first sentence says that 40% of her own

00:12:22.920 voters are haters or racists, that she hates them or whatever. But then she just conflated it with

00:12:28.540 violence, actual murder. And I know why she did it, because who could be against stopping murder?

00:12:34.320 So she blurs the two. So she can use heavy laws to shut up mere political disagreement. She said 1.00

00:12:40.660 this, let me read some more. She said, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism, hatred and violence are not welcome

00:12:45.920 anywhere. And they are certainly not welcome in Canada. We must stand together in the face of hatred

00:12:50.000 and discrimination and denounce it wherever we find it. But hang on. David Menzies founded that

00:12:55.620 Al-Quds Day protest in Toronto, I showed you, not far from Bennett's writing. There were hundreds and hundreds

00:13:01.160 of crazy racist haters right there, and not a word against them. No banning them, no arresting them, 0.99

00:13:07.780 no demonizing them, no mentioning them at all. They're clearly racist. But plans to bring in so, so many more 0.75

00:13:14.380 migrants, because who wouldn't want more bright lights like that guy who said he tricked his way 1.00

00:13:19.360 through his citizenship oath as bringing in more folks like him? The last page, the last page has a

00:13:25.220 few events in the district, and it wraps up with this note. She says, we need to call out racism in

00:13:31.660 all its forms. We need to have the courage to correct misinformation. Social media is a powerful tool,

00:13:36.460 and we need to use it to promote inclusion, tolerance, and evidence. I say again, liberals actually don't call out

00:13:43.500 extremism in immigrant communities because they're vote-shopping there, especially for excitable 1.00

00:13:48.540 types, like that Pakistani fellow at the Al-Quds rally who wants to stone gaze to death. But look 1.00

00:13:53.480 at the premonition. Social media. We need to correct misinformation on it. Hey, hang on. Hey, hey.

00:14:00.800 I thought you were talking about stopping violence, which I'm all for. Then she talked about hate. She

00:14:06.740 hates me. This is a hateful letter. Hates in the eye of the beholder. Hates a human emotion. But hang on.

00:14:10.880 Now, now, now she's saying that she's going to correct misinformation? I mean, she's a purveyor

00:14:18.080 of misinformation. She just called 40% of Canadians racist for not wanting unlimited open borders

00:14:23.320 immigration. That's not misinformation for her to smear you, apparently. But if you push back

00:14:28.760 at that smear or her smear view of some imperialistic settler, well, that's misinformation. We've got to

00:14:34.480 stop that on social media. By the way, I don't think Carolyn Bennett wrote a word of this. I think

00:14:38.720 she's perpetually distracted and a bit clueless and out of it and maybe is past her prime. Here's

00:14:44.220 our friend, Kian Bextie, asking her a question the other day. And her answer is just to stammer

00:14:49.200 a bit and run away to a safe place. Take a look. Minister Bennett, Minister Bennett, would you be

00:14:53.740 able to tell me what you spent $300 an hour on in consultants for the Missing and Murdered

00:14:57.880 Aboriginal Women Commission? You're way too close. You don't have an answer? 1.00

00:15:04.620 Yeah, no, I think this brochure was written by the 2019 Justin Trudeau campaign team. I call

00:15:10.700 it hate speech, but Trudeau calls it his campaign talking points. Get ready for a brutal five

00:15:17.960 months, you racists. Welcome back. Well, one of the things we talk a lot about on this show is 0.99

00:15:37.440 deplatforming, particularly in the new public square, which more often than not is social media,

00:15:44.460 digital deplatforming, having your Facebook account, your Twitter account, your YouTube

00:15:49.100 account shut down. It's bad enough when you're a person with a normal account, but imagine

00:15:53.560 being a political spokesman, being a company like us with 1.2 million YouTube subscribers. Well,

00:15:59.760 with a flick of a button, that can be ended. It's also deplatforming takes place in physical venues

00:16:06.780 too. We ourselves had a cruise canceled when George Soros funded activists complained to the

00:16:13.920 cruise company. But what about just plain old shunning, a denormalization of even saying you

00:16:23.400 support, let's say, Donald Trump, the personal vilification and demonization that comes at you,

00:16:29.980 not even from strangers, but sometimes from your own family and friends. Well, joining us now

00:16:35.020 to talk about this troubling phenomenon is our friend Joel Pollack, the senior editor at large

00:16:40.440 at Breitbart.com. He's got a new article called conservatives face the great shunning over

00:16:45.800 Trump. Great to see you again, Joel. Good to be with you. You know, you are in a city that is

00:16:52.140 Democrats, as most big cities in the United States are. There are some parts though, especially in

00:16:59.140 California and New York, where even just saying you might be amongst the 60 plus million people who

00:17:05.920 voted for Trump, you're treated like, in the olden days, they would have said like a leper.

00:17:11.420 You're treated like, as you say in your article, like you just said, oh, I should tell you I'm a 0.98

00:17:16.380 child molester. Like it's that kind of a shocking, repulsive, friendship-breaking thing to say.

00:17:22.420 Right. I was quoting Tom Wolfe, the late, great American author, who said that when he suggested voting

00:17:29.940 for George W. Bush, this is, by the way, 15 years ago, long before Trump, he suggested voting for

00:17:35.260 Bush. He said, I may have well have said I'm a child molester. You know, it's amazing how the

00:17:41.400 tolerant left shows complete intolerance toward political dissent. You often want to ask people,

00:17:47.600 what part of a two-party system don't you like? What is it about opposition that really bothers you?

00:17:53.800 And when you put it that way, they're a little bit embarrassed, and then they want to

00:17:56.860 talk about how they really do care about the ideas from the other side, but it's just the

00:18:01.300 extremists that make those ideas unpalatable, or it's the corruption, or it's Trump, or whatever

00:18:06.240 it is. But basically, the left in this country has practiced this kind of behavior for a long time.

00:18:14.040 They've shut themselves off into an insular bubble, and if you dissent, you are shunned. So we're seeing

00:18:21.060 that in Silicon Valley and the tech companies, which are deplatforming people. We're seeing it in social

00:18:25.420 behavior. And what I wrote in that article is that actually will have an effect on public opinion,

00:18:30.660 that if enough people are conforming in this way, and they're attacking the non-conformists,

00:18:36.860 or those who conform insufficiently well, in other words, you're not democratic enough,

00:18:42.300 not left-wing enough. You might still have voted for Hillary Clinton. Look what's happened to Alan

00:18:45.800 Dershowitz. I mean, he voted for Hillary Clinton. He just said he would vote for Joe Biden,

00:18:49.480 possibly. But he's off the reservation as far as Democrats are concerned, because he has defended

00:18:55.780 Trump, not because he is a Trump voter or Trump supporter, but because he is a civil libertarian

00:19:01.720 and has defended parties, has defended candidates from both parties and presidents from both parties

00:19:05.920 against the erosion of their own civil liberties. So Dershowitz has made this case. I remember him

00:19:11.740 making it for Bill Clinton in the 1990s. I went to an anti-impeachment rally when I was a student,

00:19:15.780 and Dershowitz was there making the same argument. So he's actually consistent. But the Democratic

00:19:19.700 Party of today has shifted so far to the left. And of course, if you're not down with the struggle,

00:19:23.940 if you're not on board with the program, you can be ostracized. And many people are.

00:19:29.100 And very few people have the personal resources or confidence to face their peers and say,

00:19:34.320 I actually think about things differently than you do, and here's why.

00:19:37.220 Yeah. You know, part of it is it's so ubiquitous to be anti-Trump that people who are very shallow

00:19:45.880 in their interest in politics, I mean, I confess I'm not deeply interested in sports. If I would

00:19:52.200 avoid the subject, but if I'm pressed on it, I would probably just repeat the last thing I heard

00:19:57.180 someone smarter than me say, you know, like my son, for example. So my point is, the way I am about

00:20:04.380 sports, a lot of people are about politics. So if all you hear is a shallow message track,

00:20:09.300 Trump is racist, I'll make America great again, hat is racist. And you never really think about it. 0.98

00:20:15.060 But when when the issue comes up, you just say, Oh, I know what to say. And so it's the casual

00:20:20.940 ubiquity of it that that becomes the normal way. Yeah, we all know that everybody knows it. And you

00:20:26.980 could never press anyone on that because their belief in it is so shallow. They've never tested the

00:20:33.220 theory themselves. But they're not in the theory testing business. They're severely normal people

00:20:37.380 who don't think about politics more than a few times a year. I think that there comes a point

00:20:42.480 when you denormalize something so much, it's like cigarettes. And well, of course, we're against

00:20:47.900 cigarettes. Of course, we're against littering. Of course, we're, you know, there's certain things

00:20:52.580 that they get past the tipping point. I think that's what your article says. Am I right?

00:20:55.700 Right. And this has been a phenomenon in democracy in the United States since the early 19th century. I

00:21:04.160 mean, Alexis de Tocqueville talked about the importance of public opinion. He saw it as a

00:21:09.220 force of social stability. But he also said it could be a force of conformity. And not only does it

00:21:13.340 keep people silent who disagree, but it actually changes their minds. If you are so used to hearing

00:21:19.520 things put a certain way, you will begin to look at things differently than you might have looked at

00:21:23.760 them otherwise. Many of our opinions come to us from other places. Very few of us sit and

00:21:29.080 contemplate. Very few of us have time to contemplate what we actually might think about a particular

00:21:34.440 issue. If we did, we'd probably have better political conversations. But people just don't

00:21:38.860 have the time and don't have the energy and don't want to engage in these kinds of arguments. And so

00:21:43.040 they just find political parties are a neat approximation to what they might think, even if it's not exactly a

00:21:48.860 good fit. And therefore, people basically conform to wherever the party is going. Now, that can be

00:21:54.740 useful also. Again, as Tocqueville himself said, there is some use to that. I'll give you an example.

00:22:01.760 The flexibility on trade that the Republican Party is now showing is entirely due to Donald Trump

00:22:07.100 basically saying, we need to think about tariffs. The party had been essentially the party of free

00:22:11.180 trade. Democrats had been more or less the party of protectionism, although there were sizable

00:22:16.460 differences in both of those parties. Certainly the Democratic establishment was for free trade,

00:22:20.600 even if many of the Democratic voters were not. But it took a President Trump to impose tariffs on

00:22:28.420 China. Part of the reason he did so and was able to do so was that the people most badly hit by these 0.97

00:22:34.480 tariffs are the farmers, not because the tariffs affect the farmers directly, but because China's

00:22:38.300 retaliatory tariffs are striking our agriculture sector. And if Trump hadn't had the support of the

00:22:44.520 big farming states, if he hadn't had that depth of conservative support, he would not be able to

00:22:49.340 weather the political storm that would have erupted from the imposition of these tariffs and the

00:22:53.060 countermeasures by the Chinese. So in a way, it takes some amount of social persuasion to bring

00:23:00.760 everybody on board with something that society arguably needs to do to confront the threat of

00:23:05.400 Chinese economic dominance. You needed Trump and people around Trump essentially to kind of create 0.55

00:23:11.080 an environment where it was okay to conform with this because previously it was not.

00:23:15.600 But at the same time, you don't want people to be drowned out who are at odds with the current

00:23:19.520 policy for whatever reason. And what's happened in the United States, again, it's not new, it's been

00:23:24.240 going on for 50, 60 years, but it's especially acute now is that the media, Hollywood, the academy,

00:23:33.840 even elementary schools, communities, people are shunning those with pro-Trump opinions. Again,

00:23:39.100 not because there's anything wrong with those opinions. In many cases, Trump is doing what

00:23:42.380 every other president of both parties has promised to do to get tough on China, to move the embassy

00:23:47.920 to Israel, so forth. He's doing all of those things. People ought to be happy that he's doing them

00:23:53.100 regardless of how they feel about him personally, but they don't even see that he's doing those

00:23:56.660 things because you're not allowed to see Trump in a certain way. The conformity that's being imposed

00:24:01.500 actually changes the way people think about the world. And I do think that's going to have an effect

00:24:05.820 in 2020. Whether it's decisive, I don't know, but it is going to affect things.

00:24:10.360 You know, it's funny, you just made me think that in Saskatchewan, one of the most, I mean,

00:24:15.060 every province is Canadian, but I can't think of a more Canadian place than small town Saskatchewan.

00:24:20.180 There was a story we did a few weeks back of a teacher who made someone wearing a Make

00:24:25.560 American Great Again hat, stand up in class, and be abused by the teacher, and the teacher

00:24:32.580 invited other people to abuse. In Canada, in Saskatchewan, small town Saskatchewan, that is

00:24:38.980 the proof of the reach of this denormalization. But there's another reason why I think it works,

00:24:45.540 because of course both sides of the debate are trying to persuade the other. But there's a

00:24:51.460 difference in tactics and in threat and punishment and pain. If you wear a MAGA hat, a Make America

00:25:02.000 Great Again hat, to school in Saskatchewan or on the streets of Manhattan, people will hurl abuse at

00:25:09.520 you. Maybe they'll even physically abuse you. They might spit at you. They might swear at you. 0.62

00:25:13.380 It will be an incredibly personally stressful experience. Whereas if you wore a Hillary Clinton

00:25:19.880 shirt, you might get the odd snicker or heckle, but the intensity of the threats and the energy

00:25:27.180 directed at you, and I'm not just saying that because I'm on the right, I just think it's

00:25:30.480 a fact that one side is far more punitive than the other. The shock tactics of the left,

00:25:38.240 the professional violent paramilitaries of the left, the Antifa thugs in Canada, we have our versions

00:25:43.980 of those. I think that's an important part too, that psychological conditioning. I want to go out in

00:25:49.600 the street and not be abused, so there's no way I'm going to identify as a Trump supporter.

00:25:54.040 No Hillary Clinton supporter ever has to say that.

00:25:57.980 Right. I mean, I have neighbors who wear t-shirts with obscenities on them attacking Trump,

00:26:05.500 and they walk around the neighborhood and nobody stops them and says, hey, there are kids here. Do

00:26:09.340 you think you should be wearing a shirt like that? I saw a guy at the local coffee shop wearing a shirt

00:26:14.320 that said, deport ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency. They wear those shirts without

00:26:20.960 fear of anybody stopping them and asking them about it. And that's fine. You know, people shouldn't be

00:26:25.560 accosted for their political views. People understand these views are out there. Fine.

00:26:29.200 But if I wear a Trump shirt, first of all, not only would I be probably kicked out of places,

00:26:36.140 but also people would stop and tell me I shouldn't do that. And it's happened to me,

00:26:41.160 even though I don't wear political clothing everywhere I go. I mean, I very rarely wear it

00:26:46.800 at all. I prefer other clothing and that's okay too. But, you know, I get stopped by people who

00:26:52.160 know what I do for a living and they attack me or accost me. A few are actually curious and want

00:26:56.760 to have a discussion and that's always welcome. But, um, you just can't have conservative views

00:27:02.520 and be left alone if those views are known. And it's considered socially acceptable for the left

00:27:09.520 to, and for liberals to basically single out those with conservative views and interrogate those

00:27:14.880 views, mock those views. A former neighbor came up to me on the street the other night and said,

00:27:20.200 boy, you guys are getting the short end of the argument lately, aren't you? I had no idea what

00:27:23.280 he meant because in my mind, Trump's doing very well. So he's obviously trapped in a left-wing news

00:27:27.940 bubble where every new story that's anti-Trump is added to the list. And surely this list has to be

00:27:34.360 growing so long that the weight of the list itself, if you put it on paper, it should be

00:27:38.600 enough to sink Trump. Um, why would you presume to, to, first of all, start a conversation that way?

00:27:44.140 But secondly, why would you presume that I agree? I don't see the world the way you do. I don't support

00:27:50.240 the candidates you do. So maybe I would look at things a little differently. Maybe you would be

00:27:55.280 interested in that perspective. The funniest thing about it is that they don't know they're in a

00:27:59.580 bubble. And when the world doesn't work out the way they think it ought to, they're incapable of

00:28:06.160 understanding it. And so they invent conspiracy theories like Russia collusion. I mean, this week

00:28:10.220 and last week, you know, it's all about what Trump said about foreign interference in the election,

00:28:16.300 or actually specifically what he said was what he would do if a foreign government offered him

00:28:21.360 information about his opponent. He said many things in response. One is that he'd listen to it. The other

00:28:26.000 is that he would probably go to the FBI, or he might throw the person out of his office. But it

00:28:30.400 was reported as Trump willing to accept. And all Trump did was basically say what every politician

00:28:35.700 would do. I don't think there's a single politician who would not at least find out what the information

00:28:40.000 was. And we know that Hillary Clinton actively solicited this kind of information. So they're acting

00:28:46.960 like it's a big scandal. But of course, if you ask Hillary Clinton, and if you ask James Comey about

00:28:52.800 what they did about it, when the Clinton campaign went to Christopher Steele and Russia and so forth,

00:28:58.480 you can't ask that that's that's interfering with with the investigation of Trump, we're talking

00:29:02.320 about Trump here, we're not talking about some other prince. So just to kind of round things out,

00:29:08.560 basically, we've accepted and allowed it to become acceptable to challenge conservatives. And I think

00:29:14.880 it goes to something very deeply rooted that isn't even political. And maybe I should have said this in

00:29:18.720 the article, but essentially, we have delegated the responsibilities of governing to conservative

00:29:25.520 parties, conservative leaders, basically, we expect them to be the parents, they are the grownups.

00:29:31.040 And the liberals are entitled to be the teenagers in constant rebellion, the teenagers will point out

00:29:37.840 everything that the parents do that is wrong, that is unfair, or not like what the other kids have,

00:29:43.360 or seems overly punitive, or not helpful enough. And there's this constant argument going on.

00:29:51.440 Essentially, it's like living in a household with an adolescent teenager, basically, or being an

00:29:55.040 adolescent teenager, writing with your parents. But that's the nature of this conversation.

00:29:58.800 The Republicans are the mommy and daddy party, and the Democrats are the bored, angry teenager party.

00:30:04.640 And, you know, sometimes a teenager will bring up flaws that the parents do have. And sometimes

00:30:09.840 teenagers will invent things that are new and interesting that parents wouldn't have thought of,

00:30:13.280 or they'll think of a new way to do something. And it's very valuable. But a lot of the time,

00:30:18.080 it's just infuriating. And, you know, if the parent finally gives in, gives the keys to the car to

00:30:22.560 their angry teenager, well, sometimes the teenager wrecks the car. And yet the rebellion continues. So

00:30:28.160 that that's, that's the kind of dialogue we have right now. And of course, parents in that situation

00:30:32.800 always feel like they're the ones who are, you know, people are allowed to beat up on, you can't tell

00:30:37.440 your teenager to treat you with respect, if you do, they just storm out of the house. It's, it's that kind of

00:30:42.960 dynamic. And I think that we repeated that in our political parties, essentially, the Republicans are

00:30:48.320 the responsible adults, and Democrats, the rebellious teenagers. And, and, hey, you know,

00:30:52.400 our popular culture is all about celebrating that rebellion, rock and roll, rap music, you know,

00:30:56.880 whatever else it is, we enjoy. It's about that, that insurrection. And it's not about the ordinary,

00:31:03.040 boring, plotting business of government, except to a few of the new left intellectuals who are kind of

00:31:07.920 nerdy and into that sort of thing. I'd sort of put Pete Buttigieg in that category. I think one of the

00:31:11.760 the reasons he walks around without a suit jacket is because he's trying to counter that image of

00:31:16.880 himself. He's the, you know, he's the kid who became mayor at a young age. And now he has to

00:31:20.480 remind all of, you know, the left that he's still sort of down with the struggle. He's not really one

00:31:24.000 of them. He's not one of the squares. He takes off his suit jacket. But basically, that's what we've

00:31:28.160 got. We've got the adolescents versus the parents. Well, Joel, you got nothing on us here. We got Justin Trudeau

00:31:33.440 as our prime minister, and you just have no clue. I want to, very interesting things you said.

00:31:42.640 Joel, we're rebranding our company in a few weeks. We're coming out with a slightly different name

00:31:47.200 and a logo and a motto. And I don't want to give it away yet. It's, we'll be announcing it on Canada

00:31:53.440 Day, which is July 1st. But it goes to what you're talking about here. I'm excited about our,

00:31:58.960 our new sound look and feel. Because people have forgotten that there are more than one side to the

00:32:08.320 story. In Canada, we have a position, the loser of our election is called the leader of the opposition,

00:32:16.480 or actually Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition. Which, if you think about that strange and archaic title,

00:32:23.840 it's very meaningful. It means you are paid to oppose. You're paid to criticize. You're paid to

00:32:29.040 differ. But you're loyal to the country and the queen. You're just fighting with the guy who beat

00:32:35.280 you in an election. But you both love Canada. And we've gotten to the point, in Canada even,

00:32:41.200 where any dissent, oh, no, no, no, you're not allowed to oppose. There's only one narrative.

00:32:46.160 Even though the position is called the leader of the opposition. I mean, I know you have similar

00:32:50.720 language in the States, but I think it's very vivid when you call yourself Her Majesty's Loyal

00:32:56.400 Opposition. We're losing that up here too. Well, we've never really had that here. We don't have

00:33:02.640 sort of constitutionally enshrined opposition office. In South Africa, where I worked for several

00:33:08.080 years, the leader of the opposition is actually mentioned in the constitution. So, you know,

00:33:12.880 there's this tradition in the British Commonwealth of enshrining that position of opposition. I think

00:33:17.680 if you read John Stuart Mill, he talks about how opposition is sort of a natural force in democracy

00:33:23.200 that protects liberty in a representative system. We don't really have that. Our constitutional

00:33:29.200 opposition comes from our federal system and the separation of powers, which is a very big part of

00:33:35.200 our constitution, I think more so than in other democratic systems. And that's sort of the inbuilt

00:33:41.840 opposition. But, you know, in our legislative chambers, we have the minority leader,

00:33:46.240 House minority leader, Senate minority leader. They have certain prerogatives. They don't have

00:33:50.720 many. And in both the House and the Senate, the majority wields enormous power. The Senate has the

00:33:57.760 filibuster, which is a break or was a break on the power of the majority. But essentially,

00:34:03.200 the leaders of the parties in their respective chambers exert incredible power. And much of the

00:34:09.280 opposition to whatever the government happens to be doing comes from outside of the institutional

00:34:15.280 structure. That's why you almost always see the response to the State of the Union address in

00:34:18.880 the United States being delivered by a local politician or by somebody outside of a Capitol

00:34:24.960 building or something like that. The opposition comes from outside government. It's not seen as part

00:34:30.240 of the system. You know, it's outside the executive or outside the legislative. It's basically dispersed in

00:34:36.800 a bunch of different places. But I don't know whether that really makes much of a difference. I do think

00:34:42.960 the interesting thing that has happened since Barack Obama was elected, and I saw it for the first time

00:34:49.760 with the Tea Party movement, the left has started to call people with whom it disagrees un-American.

00:34:57.280 And I was struck by that the first time I saw it. The first time I saw it was when the Tea Party

00:35:01.200 movement started in the summer of 2009. Nancy Pelosi calling it un-American, saying that people were

00:35:05.440 showing up with swastikas at town hall meetings, which wasn't happening. They called it un-American to oppose

00:35:10.400 what Obama was doing. Now they call it un-American not to oppose what Trump is doing. They have thrown

00:35:15.040 around this term un-American for a decade. It struck me as interesting because the Democrats, of course,

00:35:22.160 always tell the story of how terrible the McCarthy hearings were in the 1950s and 1960s,

00:35:27.280 the pursuit of communists by the House Un-American, the House Un-American Activities Committee,

00:35:33.200 who act or whatever. But essentially they called communism un-American and they pursued anyone who

00:35:39.360 was a communist or a fellow traveler in what many people today would regard as a form of political

00:35:44.640 persecution. I mean, who really cares? Yes, we had a Cold War enemy, but that attempt to stamp out

00:35:50.320 dissent is a really dark chapter in our country's history. But Democrats have revived the language of

00:35:57.120 that chapter. And they now use terms like un-American with gay abandon, no pun intended. 0.90

00:36:03.200 You know, under George W. Bush, they probably marched behind banners like dissent is patriotic.

00:36:09.040 But now if you dissent from their view, you are not a patriot. You are basically treasonous. I get

00:36:13.920 that all the time on social media. You know, how much is Russia paying you to support Trump? You know,

00:36:19.680 those are a few anonymous people. But essentially that's the message of the party, that if you don't

00:36:23.600 oppose Trump, you are somehow un-American or in fact a traitor to the country. So I see Democrats

00:36:31.040 embracing that kind of language in the same way that they have embraced the military as a sort of,

00:36:37.680 not for what it's supposed to do, protect the country from enemies, but as a model for the economy.

00:36:44.080 You often start to hear militaristic language. There's a kind of fascism that's creeping in.

00:36:49.040 And I don't think Democrats are aware of it. And again, if they listened to criticism,

00:36:53.200 if they could hear how they sound to other people, they would probably be more reluctant. But they

00:36:58.400 don't step outside that bubble. And it's because the mainstream institutions of education, of media,

00:37:02.880 and of popular culture are all controlled by the left. And that comes back to our original point.

00:37:07.280 This is the great shunning. They basically don't even want to hear from people who have a dissenting

00:37:12.000 view. It disturbs them so much to hear that dissent that they just try to block it.

00:37:16.640 Hmm. Well, Joel, you're very generous with your time, and we love your words of wisdom and great

00:37:20.960 insight. I do, however, enjoy telling you Canadian horror stories for you just to

00:37:27.520 shake your head at. And permit me to close with 30 seconds. I should tell you that this week,

00:37:33.040 a member of Her Majesty's loyal opposition, a duly elected member of parliament, and the word

00:37:38.400 parliament, as you can see, the root of it comes from the French word parley, to speak.

00:37:42.160 Right.

00:37:43.120 Parliamentary privilege, you have, it's your duty, you have these extra powerful rights to speak

00:37:49.600 without limit. Anything said in the parliament is immune to litigation, for example. You can't

00:37:56.000 sue someone for defamation with the same parliament. A member of parliament from St. Albert, Alberta,

00:38:01.280 named Michael Cooper, who quoted the manifesto of the anti-Muslim terrorist in New Zealand to rebut

00:38:09.280 a false accusation about it by a Muslim lobbyist who said he was conservative. Michael Cooper said no,

00:38:15.920 he revered the Chinese Communist Party. Here's the quote. That quote by an elected parliamentarian

00:38:24.320 on the official opposition was deemed so odious by the governing Trudeau party that they not only rebuked

00:38:33.440 him, but they deleted it. They voted to delete what was said in that committee and erase it for all

00:38:42.400 time, throw it down the memory hole because it was, according to one of the government MPs,

00:38:48.560 it made the committee an unsafe space. So even a member of Her Majesty's loyal opposition

00:38:56.240 cannot speak out against the dominant narrative in a parliament. That happened in Canada this week.

00:39:02.640 Amazing. Well, you know, this whole notion of safe spaces is, again, part of the shunning. Your

00:39:09.200 point of view is not just disagreeable to me. It's not just something that makes me upset. It is a

00:39:15.200 physical threat to my health and safety and therefore it must be shut down. That's part of the justification.

00:39:20.880 It's over. Yeah. Well, it's crazy times. You keep up the fight down there, my friend. Thanks for

00:39:25.120 everything. All right. I will. All right. There you have it. Joel Pollack, senior editor at large at

00:39:28.640 breitbart.com.

00:39:40.080 Hey, welcome back. What did you think about this mailer that I got from Carolyn Bennett?

00:39:45.280 I think it's crazy. I mean, I live in a very multicultural, multiracial

00:39:49.120 neighborhood and no one talks this way. Nobody. Nobody's calling each other names. Nobody's saying,

00:39:55.360 oh, you're a racist if you want open borders. In fact, I'd put it to you. Most immigrants to Canada 0.93

00:39:59.360 think Trudeau's open borders stuff is nuts. I know that to be a fact because according to Angus

00:40:04.800 Reid, only 6% of people want larger immigration numbers. So obviously, a lot of visible minorities

00:40:12.080 and new immigrants hate it too. They're not racist. And no one's calling each other settler. That's just a 0.69

00:40:16.320 weird thing. I used to live out West and have a lot more interaction with Indians, including on 1.00

00:40:22.800 reserve. I've never heard that. That's a white girl talking, trying to... It's like a super white woman 1.00

00:40:29.600 reading the lyrics to a rap song. It's just so unnatural. But I think that this is a premonition

00:40:35.120 of Trudeau's election campaign. Everyone's a racist. And if you're not a racist, you're a settler. And if 0.95

00:40:40.080 you're not a settler, you're a sexist. And if you're not a sexist, you're an Islamophobe. And if you're not 0.99

00:40:44.240 an Islamophobe, you're a homophobe. And between all those, we've got you covered at least one way. 0.72

00:40:48.160 So shut up and let Justin Trudeau censor things. That's what this is. Well, folks, that's the show 0.97

00:40:53.040 for today. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:40:57.360 good night and keep fighting for freedom while you still can.

00:41:14.240 God bless.

00:41:16.560 God bless, good night and watch.

00:41:17.600 Jesus said, you stay there!

00:41:19.440 Cheers!

00:41:20.080 The Holiness is on the right.

00:41:20.400 Of course it is, we're going to try that question.

00:41:24.000 Some people all go for a while, so we're going to come on the right. 0.97

00:41:26.540 Damn, who are here at the first quarter. 0.95

00:41:28.160 We're going to give it to you and we're going to stretch them up. 0.99

00:41:29.760 Also check them out, let's keep going.

00:41:31.600 Yeah.

00:41:32.800 We don't have to go on one way.

00:41:34.880 I've got the last week for this Sunday.

00:41:36.920 We lose our Jana Bang on call. 0.55

00:41:38.960 But then finally, everyone, as you push for the money,

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