Rebel News Podcast - June 20, 2018


“Serial slanderers” SPLC apologize, pay $3M+ after being sued — But is The Rebel their next target?


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

167.47383

Word Count

7,723

Sentence Count

457

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

29


Summary

The mass rape by Pakistani-British Muslim men of indigenous British teenage girls, in fact girls as young as 11, has been going on for more than a decade in the UK. It was detected almost immediately, by the way, by doctors, by social workers, by police, and politicians, it was detected immediately, but it was covered up for years by all of those officials for fear of being called racist.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Tonight, the most amazing thing just happened, an alt-left extremist group made an apology
00:00:04.900 and a $3 million payout. It's June 19th and you're watching The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:15.380 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:19.180 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:22.900 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.
00:00:25.860 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:36.580 The mass rape by Pakistani Muslim men of indigenous British teenage girls, in fact girls as young as 11,
00:00:45.060 has been going on for more than a decade in the UK.
00:00:48.200 It was detected almost immediately, by the way, by doctors, by social workers, by policemen, by politicians.
00:00:52.840 It was detected immediately, but it was covered up for years by all of those officials for fear of being called racist.
00:01:00.580 It's not an opinion, that's a fact, as documented in the official inquiry into the rape of 1,400 young British girls in the small city of Rotherham.
00:01:10.040 How can you rape 1,400 girls in one small city again and again and not hear a peep about it in official circles?
00:01:18.140 They weren't just raped once. It was systematic. It was on an industrial scale dozens of times.
00:01:24.580 How did that happen?
00:01:26.680 Because according to the official inquiry, everyone was afraid of being called a racist because the girls were white and the rapists were Muslims.
00:01:34.100 That's what they all said when they were asked why they were silent, the social workers, the doctors, the police.
00:01:39.320 Here's a Muslim reformer, a friend of Raheel Raza, named Majid Nawaz, talking about this last year on a British talk radio network called LBC.
00:01:52.360 I'm going to let this run for a couple of minutes because I want you to hear him say it and get to know him a little bit. Take a look.
00:01:57.660 Why are we still, despite the years of evidence mounting up on this issue, why are we still so uncomfortable talking about this issue and accepting the fact that there is a hugely disproportionate number of British South Asian Muslim men involved in what can only be described as a despicable crime?
00:02:19.900 The fact is that since 2011, these sorts of crimes have occurred in cities up and down the country.
00:02:26.920 They are spreading. They have occurred in Rochdale, Rotherham, Oxford, Telford, Leeds, Birmingham, Norwich, Burnley, High Wycombe, Leicester, Dewsbury, Middlesbrough, Peterborough, Bristol, Halifax and Newcastle.
00:02:41.320 And in only two of those cases I've just listed from all of those cities were the men not of British South Asian Muslim heritage.
00:02:50.700 All of the victims in all of those cities that I just listed, the list was very long.
00:02:56.100 All of the victims except three were white teenage girls.
00:03:02.300 And so the fact that this pattern, that the fact that 84 percent of these cases involve British South Asian Muslim men must beg the question, why?
00:03:13.360 Wow, that guy, Majid Nawaz, actually runs a Muslim organization called the Quilliam Foundation, named after the first British Muslim whose last name is Quilliam.
00:03:25.200 Nawaz says he's against all sorts of extremism.
00:03:27.600 And I think I believe him.
00:03:29.820 Here he is working with Tommy Robinson for a while after Tommy left the EDL, the English Defense League.
00:03:36.980 And they've had some disagreements for sure, but they both have overlapping goals and do to this day.
00:03:42.760 It's sort of powerful, right?
00:03:44.740 Because Nawaz himself is a Muslim, so he can say things that Tommy can't say, that white journalists or politicians can't say.
00:03:52.780 In fact, the prosecutor of the Rotherham rapes, 1,400 girls, the prosecutor was a Pakistani Muslim prosecutor.
00:04:01.600 He had to be, or he'd surely have been called a racist too.
00:04:06.600 So that was last year.
00:04:08.180 And this year, a few days after Tommy Robinson was arrested outside a court in Leeds for a rape gang trial, Nawaz went on the radio again to talk about it again.
00:04:18.120 Now listen, again, I'm going to play you a few minutes, about three, four minutes here, because I want you to get to know Nawaz a little bit, okay?
00:04:24.520 Take a look.
00:04:25.380 For too long in this country, we, media, the establishment, society, the chattering classes, the liberal elite, whatever term you want to use,
00:04:35.600 have ignored the issue of grooming gangs, of young, vulnerable teenage girls who have been victimised, drugged and raped and abused.
00:04:46.040 Whether it's the Rotherham case or all the other cases that were replicated across the country,
00:04:50.620 it is both the conclusion of the prosecutor in the Rotherham case, British, Pakistani, Muslim, Nazir, Afzal,
00:04:56.920 or indeed the official inquiry into why it took so long for these young, vulnerable, underage girls to get justice,
00:05:05.320 both of those concluded that fears of racism prevented us from coming to the defence of vulnerable, underage girls.
00:05:13.200 Fears of racism meaning that the state was scared that it would be accused of being racist
00:05:19.960 if it rightly arrested and prosecuted British, Pakistani, largely British, Pakistani, Muslim men
00:05:27.280 in their abuse of underage white teenage girls.
00:05:33.060 And so from fear of appearing racist, there was a silence across the country
00:05:40.340 as multiple cases of grooming gangs emerged up and down the country,
00:05:45.140 as evidenced now due to multiple prosecutions, successful prosecutions,
00:05:50.780 but sadly and unfortunately too late.
00:05:53.080 If we hadn't all been silent, if we had all addressed this issue head on when it needed to be addressed,
00:06:00.360 when it was time to address it,
00:06:02.940 then the void would not have emerged for the populist agitators to fill that gap
00:06:08.700 and become popular, actually, as a result of addressing what is a legitimate issue.
00:06:14.600 They ended up hijacking what should have been the concern of every right-minded citizen in this country.
00:06:22.320 And unfortunately, it takes a bit of courage to address something
00:06:27.000 that people will hurl abuse at you for talking about.
00:06:30.880 I know on this show, on my own show on the weekends,
00:06:34.040 I've tried to book certain MPs to come on and address the issue of grooming gangs
00:06:38.880 and on multiple times they've had to back away from fear of the backlash.
00:06:43.220 We recall Sarah Champion, who in the Labour Party attempted to address this
00:06:48.600 and lost her position in the front bench as a result.
00:06:51.800 There have been multiple cases now, and it's beyond any level of doubt
00:06:55.920 that there's a disproportionate number of British Muslims involved in grooming gangs
00:07:00.660 against underage white girls.
00:07:02.840 And to say that is to report on the facts.
00:07:07.000 It's not to be racist.
00:07:08.840 And if we're backing away from this conversation,
00:07:11.360 then all we're doing is leaving the ground far open
00:07:14.940 in what is a legitimate issue that requires addressing.
00:07:18.400 We're leaving the ground for the populist to hijack that legitimate issue
00:07:22.180 and make it their own for their own nefarious purposes.
00:07:25.800 And that's precisely what's been going on.
00:07:30.080 And it's in that regard that what I'm saying here is I just wish,
00:07:34.880 I wish that those young girls had seen justice served for them
00:07:41.440 as fast as the judge served Tommy Robinson justice in this case.
00:07:46.700 Because in this case, it's very easy for us to pick on the bogeyman.
00:07:49.900 But actually, the truth is that our silence over decades in this country
00:07:54.680 is the real bogeyman.
00:07:56.020 And that's the real thing we should despise,
00:07:57.880 our own cowardice in the face of grooming of young girls up and down this country
00:08:02.080 and our conspiracy of silence.
00:08:04.600 All right.
00:08:04.880 So this guy, Majid Nawaz, he's effective, isn't he?
00:08:07.740 He looks good.
00:08:08.860 He sounds good.
00:08:10.120 He has a big platform.
00:08:11.140 I mean, LBC is a big network.
00:08:13.100 He's polite company, though.
00:08:14.560 He hangs out with Tommy.
00:08:15.840 And Tommy's a little rough around the edges,
00:08:17.800 but he hangs out with more mainstream people.
00:08:19.900 Two fancy people, too.
00:08:21.620 The other week, when our friend Jordan Peterson was in the UK,
00:08:25.140 he went on Nawaz's radio show.
00:08:26.860 He's a mainstream guy, Nawaz.
00:08:29.600 So what do you do?
00:08:31.480 I mean, if you're a leftist who loves political correctness,
00:08:33.680 who doesn't want people to talk about Muslims or Pakistan or immigration
00:08:37.020 or Tommy Robinson or rape gangs,
00:08:38.760 but your only weapon is gone,
00:08:40.140 the weapon that silenced all of Rotherham's establishment,
00:08:42.200 the weapon of calling someone racist or Islamophobic,
00:08:44.440 that weapon doesn't work on Majid Nawaz, does it?
00:08:47.980 So what can you do to stop him?
00:08:51.320 I mean, just look at the guy.
00:08:52.320 He's just talking as if he's a free man in a free country.
00:08:55.840 And you're some leftist liberal white dude.
00:08:57.520 How do you scare him into being quiet?
00:09:00.980 Well, you just smear him anyways.
00:09:02.360 And so a mighty alt-left troll factory called the Southern Poverty Law Center
00:09:09.820 issued their own liberal fatwa against Majid Nawaz
00:09:15.520 and against the great Ayaan Hirsi Ali,
00:09:18.180 calling them anti-Muslim extremists.
00:09:20.240 They literally equated these two with, what, neo-Nazis or something?
00:09:24.320 It was a smear.
00:09:25.640 They put it in their Southern Poverty Law Center's field guide
00:09:28.560 to anti-Muslim extremists, a field guide.
00:09:30.740 It's in, if you see these people in the wild,
00:09:33.460 don't approach them.
00:09:34.780 They're dangerous.
00:09:35.920 Seriously.
00:09:36.660 Majid Nawaz, who runs a Muslim NGO,
00:09:40.260 named after the first Muslim in Britain.
00:09:43.560 I mean, their website's motto is literally
00:09:45.320 promoting pluralism and inspiring change.
00:09:48.940 And look at that underneath it.
00:09:49.800 The world's first counter-extremism organization.
00:09:53.820 I mean, half the people they work with are Muslim, of course.
00:09:55.820 The SPLC, I mean, look at that name,
00:09:58.040 Southern Poverty Law Center.
00:10:00.600 They were set up about half a century ago
00:10:02.240 to fight for the rights of poor blacks in the U.S. South,
00:10:04.720 but now they're smearing a Muslim reformer in the U.K.
00:10:09.000 Well, yeah, because they've been colonized,
00:10:11.420 the SPLC, by the alt-left, and it pays big time.
00:10:15.160 Their financial endowment at the SPLC
00:10:17.060 is now about $400 million U.S.
00:10:19.920 You make a lot of money demonizing conservatives
00:10:22.340 from big donors.
00:10:23.460 I mean, if you were built 50 years ago
00:10:26.860 to fight the KKK and Jim Crow laws in the South,
00:10:30.440 but there is no more KKK or Jim Crow laws to speak of,
00:10:34.500 you might have to find a new line of work.
00:10:36.680 But that's too much work.
00:10:39.000 So now they demonize anyone concerned about Islam,
00:10:43.380 including Majid Nawaz.
00:10:45.760 $400 million is a lot of smearing and suing,
00:10:49.220 but it gets worse.
00:10:49.960 Facebook and Amazon and Google and YouTube and Twitter,
00:10:55.260 they have all outsourced their censorship in part to the SPLC.
00:11:01.580 The SPLC decide who gets banned and who doesn't,
00:11:06.360 who gets kicked off Twitter or Facebook and who doesn't.
00:11:09.660 How many times have they done this?
00:11:12.220 That's the thing about corporate censorship like this,
00:11:13.980 you never know.
00:11:15.500 Unlike government censorship,
00:11:16.620 where at least there is a notice or a warning or an explanation or a trial or an appeal,
00:11:20.760 Silicon Valley censorship just happens.
00:11:22.600 Have they banned 10 people?
00:11:24.020 Or 10,000 people?
00:11:25.800 Or 10 million people?
00:11:27.680 And on what basis?
00:11:29.660 Well, the same basis that they slandered Majid Nawaz and I and her CLE.
00:11:33.580 But Majid Nawaz did something new.
00:11:36.520 He fought back.
00:11:37.580 He crowdfunded a lawsuit against the SPLC.
00:11:42.100 He asked people on the internet to chip in to pay for his lawyers.
00:11:45.060 And he really did it.
00:11:45.940 He really moved to sue them for slander,
00:11:49.080 for claiming he was an anti-Muslim bigot,
00:11:50.980 for smearing him everywhere and anywhere,
00:11:53.460 and no doubt the countless secret actions they were taking against him
00:11:56.880 that they didn't make public.
00:11:59.140 Now, I saw this and I thought,
00:12:01.060 well, good luck to him.
00:12:02.000 I mean, the SPLC,
00:12:03.400 they have close to half a billion dollars
00:12:05.400 and they're run by lawyers, basically.
00:12:08.340 They can fight anyone forever.
00:12:11.020 Just bury them in costs and legal appeals
00:12:12.940 and they'd never blink.
00:12:14.780 I've never seen the SPLC blink.
00:12:17.820 But then they blinked.
00:12:19.260 Oh my God, did they blink.
00:12:21.160 Look at this video,
00:12:22.440 elocuted by the boss of the SPLC himself just yesterday.
00:12:26.600 Take a look at this.
00:12:28.220 The Southern Poverty Law Center was wrong
00:12:30.340 to include Majid Nawaz and the Quilliam Foundation
00:12:33.340 and our Field Guide to Anti-Muslim Extremists.
00:12:36.880 Since we published the Field Guide,
00:12:38.680 we have taken the time to do more research
00:12:40.740 and have consulted with human rights advocates we respect.
00:12:44.600 We've found that Mr. Nawaz and Quilliam
00:12:46.720 have made valuable and important contributions to public discourse,
00:12:50.840 including by promoting pluralism
00:12:52.740 and condemning both anti-Muslim bigotry and Islamist extremism.
00:12:57.560 Although we may have our differences
00:12:59.300 with some of the positions that Mr. Nawaz and Quilliam have taken,
00:13:02.820 they are most certainly not anti-Muslim extremists.
00:13:06.680 We would like to extend our sincerest apologies
00:13:09.040 to Mr. Nawaz, Quilliam, and our readers for the era.
00:13:12.340 And we wish Mr. Nawaz and Quilliam all the best.
00:13:15.520 Oh, yeah.
00:13:16.600 And they paid Majid Nawaz more than $3 million U.S. for his trouble.
00:13:23.300 $3 million.
00:13:24.140 That is a staggering sum to be awarded at trial.
00:13:28.420 But to pay that out as a preference to going to trial,
00:13:30.960 what was the SPLC afraid of?
00:13:32.720 I mean, what did they do in secret that would come out in public?
00:13:36.880 What would be revealed by the lawsuit?
00:13:38.540 Of course, what they did in public was damaging to Nawaz.
00:13:42.340 But to pay $3 million for that?
00:13:45.460 I think that the SPLC wasn't just paying to repair his reputation,
00:13:49.120 but to keep their own reputation intact.
00:13:51.500 I can only imagine what they were afraid would come out in court about their malice
00:13:55.440 or who's really pulling the strings in their decisions of who to hate and who not to hate.
00:13:59.580 I think they were afraid of their records being made public.
00:14:02.080 And the surrender was so fast.
00:14:04.120 So fast.
00:14:05.200 It's great.
00:14:05.960 And now I see that I and her CLE is thinking of suing, too.
00:14:08.940 She absolutely should, of course.
00:14:11.160 And she should either take her $3 million or press on to see what documents will be revealed,
00:14:16.820 what internal communications and decisions have been made.
00:14:20.760 See the emails, the minutes of their private meetings.
00:14:24.440 The SPLC are professional serial slanderers.
00:14:27.820 It's not just that, but they do it as a business.
00:14:29.580 They receive support from the organizations that ask them to censor,
00:14:32.640 especially in Silicon Valley.
00:14:33.960 It's a very profitable business, isn't it?
00:14:36.060 But they're planting their slanders around the world, extremely damaging.
00:14:40.440 And so they themselves, if ever taken the task,
00:14:43.500 could pay out huge damages to those they've smeared.
00:14:46.280 There must be a hundred Majid Nawazes out there.
00:14:49.300 Maybe not all of them as media-friendly as him, but surely a dozen of them are.
00:14:53.080 But look, look at this.
00:14:55.060 Look at who has just set up a Canadian branch plant.
00:14:58.520 The SPLC has given a grant to a Canadian colony run by notorious hucksters,
00:15:05.720 Evan Balgord and Bernie Farber, called the Canadian Anti-Hate Network.
00:15:10.600 It's funny because they sure hate a lot of people themselves,
00:15:14.080 namely conservatives who disagree with them, like us here at The Rebel and our viewers.
00:15:17.960 In fact, let me quote from this story.
00:15:19.380 I went to the Rebel Media Conference.
00:15:23.160 The anti-Islamophobia M-103 motion was the theme.
00:15:26.300 The crowd was over a thousand people, and there were strong emotions in that crowd.
00:15:29.640 At one point, one of the speakers encouraged people in the crowd to stand up,
00:15:32.560 pointed the journalist on the edge, and shout fake news at us.
00:15:35.940 That was the first time I'd seen that happen in Canada.
00:15:40.360 Yeah, Evan, that's called dissent.
00:15:43.460 It's called disagreeing.
00:15:44.920 It's legal in Canada still.
00:15:47.020 Well, Evan Balgord has made a name for himself online,
00:15:51.160 consorting with violent Antifa types,
00:15:53.480 and Bernie Farber is the chief advocate of censorship in Canada.
00:15:57.120 They're both fools.
00:15:58.480 Again, the two will make money off their scandal-mongering, won't they?
00:16:02.000 But maybe the answer up here
00:16:03.540 is the answer that Majin Noa has found out over there.
00:16:08.380 Sue the bastards.
00:16:09.380 Make them back up every allegation.
00:16:12.020 Make them justify every slander,
00:16:14.060 especially in light of their notorious malice.
00:16:17.360 I noticed just this weekend that Evan Balgord signed up
00:16:20.080 as a premium member of The Rebel.
00:16:22.260 Hello, Evan, you foreign-funded censor.
00:16:26.240 The world now knows that you work for a corrupt organization
00:16:30.400 that calls anyone they disagree with racist,
00:16:33.720 just for fun and profit.
00:16:35.720 We know you're liars.
00:16:37.060 Your U.S. master just admitted to being liars,
00:16:41.420 and they just paid $3 million in the process.
00:16:46.140 We won't be reluctant to sue you for your smears either,
00:16:49.940 and we'll do our best to encourage other conservatives
00:16:52.400 to stand up to the slanders of the alt-left,
00:16:55.820 especially those who would bring disreputable foreign tactics to Canada.
00:17:00.700 Stay with us for more.
00:17:19.100 Welcome back.
00:17:20.000 Well, every year, the government of Iran,
00:17:23.040 which is persona non grata in Canada, by the way,
00:17:26.120 their extremely bad behavior,
00:17:28.000 their pro-terrorist behavior,
00:17:29.640 their domestic abuses against their own citizens and our citizens,
00:17:33.480 has really cut ties between our two countries.
00:17:36.240 That hasn't stopped Iran from messing around
00:17:39.540 in Canada's political landscape,
00:17:41.360 and one of their flagship provocations every year,
00:17:46.080 they call it Al-Quds Day.
00:17:47.780 It's conceived by Iran.
00:17:49.760 It's financed and organized by Iranian agents,
00:17:52.360 and it's basically an anti-Israel, anti-Semitic festival.
00:17:56.940 In Toronto and in cities around the world,
00:18:00.060 London and England, they have a very big one.
00:18:03.100 What's so gross about the one in Toronto
00:18:05.060 is not just their bald-faced anti-Semitism,
00:18:07.360 but the fact that they like to have it on the grounds
00:18:10.260 of the government legislature.
00:18:12.580 Of course, they don't even have a permit,
00:18:14.560 but the fact that it would be like an alt-right KKK rally
00:18:19.440 calling for death to the Jews,
00:18:20.840 but because they're Iranian,
00:18:24.580 no one really much seems to care.
00:18:27.100 No one other than our friend Candace Malcolm,
00:18:29.660 who has written an outstanding article on the subject
00:18:32.400 and brings with her some shocking news
00:18:34.400 that one of the keynote speakers
00:18:36.680 at this year's Al-Quds rally,
00:18:39.340 who called for the eradication
00:18:41.100 of his Jewish enemies in Israel,
00:18:44.300 he actually got a summer jobs grant
00:18:46.340 from Justin Trudeau,
00:18:47.520 and joining us now via Skype
00:18:48.620 is the woman who broke this exclusive scoop,
00:18:51.200 our friend Candace Malcolm.
00:18:52.260 Candace, again, another great scoop by you.
00:18:55.300 I'm so proud of your work in the Toronto Sun,
00:18:57.780 and I'm so glad you have that forum.
00:19:00.080 Tell us a little bit about Sheik Shafiq Huda,
00:19:04.520 and who's financing him?
00:19:08.160 Well, you know, this is just,
00:19:10.240 you almost can't make this stuff up, Ezra.
00:19:12.280 All the controversy that's surrounded
00:19:14.000 this Canada Summer Jobs Grant,
00:19:15.940 1,600 Christian-based organizations
00:19:18.100 been denied funding by the Trudeau government,
00:19:20.560 even organizations that aren't political
00:19:22.420 or don't do advocacy,
00:19:24.140 but because of their beliefs,
00:19:25.700 their personal, fundamental, moral beliefs,
00:19:28.220 the Trudeau government has denied them
00:19:29.800 from this grant.
00:19:31.000 It's become a huge controversy,
00:19:32.680 and yet this organization,
00:19:34.980 this Islamic organization,
00:19:36.120 based out of Kitchener, Ontario,
00:19:38.360 whose Sheik gave a despicable speech
00:19:40.540 at Al-Quds Day, the rally that you were talking about,
00:19:43.300 calling for the eradication of Israel and Jews,
00:19:46.840 you know, his organization qualified
00:19:48.800 and received federal funding
00:19:50.520 from the Trudeau government
00:19:51.500 under this Canada Jobs Grant in 2018.
00:19:54.540 This organization and this Sheik is now,
00:19:57.440 there's been complaints filed about him
00:20:00.260 by both Benay Birth,
00:20:02.080 a human rights organization,
00:20:03.600 and an accusation made by a Quebec MP
00:20:05.680 that he has broken the criminal code.
00:20:08.580 So, you know, such a controversial group,
00:20:10.540 such a hateful individual,
00:20:12.440 and yet this is where
00:20:13.280 our Canadian taxpayer dollars are going.
00:20:15.800 Yeah.
00:20:16.260 If people think you're exaggerating,
00:20:17.820 we have a 50-second clip
00:20:19.620 of Sheik Shafiq Huda,
00:20:22.400 and he's not just,
00:20:23.480 he's not a foreigner,
00:20:24.400 like, I mean,
00:20:24.840 I think he was born in a foreign country,
00:20:26.120 but he's in Canada.
00:20:27.320 He runs this organization
00:20:30.020 in the Islamic Humanitarian Service of Kitchener,
00:20:32.880 so he's not some nobody off the street,
00:20:35.500 and he has a bit of a profile,
00:20:38.360 enough to get a government grant from the liberals.
00:20:41.120 Let's play 50 seconds,
00:20:42.420 and he uses code words.
00:20:43.880 He says,
00:20:44.600 eradicate the Zionists,
00:20:46.360 eradicate Israel.
00:20:47.600 I don't think he ever comes right out
00:20:49.960 and says,
00:20:50.720 kill the Jews.
00:20:51.700 I think he's savvier than that.
00:20:53.780 Let's let him speak for himself.
00:20:55.420 Here's 50 seconds from a larger speech.
00:20:57.660 I am praying for a day
00:20:59.860 to come in our lifetime
00:21:02.020 where we won't need the Al-Quds rally
00:21:04.700 because Palestine will be free,
00:21:07.060 oppression will be eradicated,
00:21:09.000 injustice will end.
00:21:10.380 That's the day we pray for
00:21:11.460 so we don't have to be every Saturday
00:21:13.720 in the holy month of Ramadan.
00:21:15.340 This is our prayer to the Almighty Creator,
00:21:17.480 whether you call Him God or Allah,
00:21:19.480 you call Him Jehovah,
00:21:20.420 whatever name you want to call Him,
00:21:21.980 we pray to the Creator and to the Almighty.
00:21:24.200 A day will come
00:21:25.140 when we will see justice throughout the world,
00:21:27.780 the eradication of the unjust powers
00:21:29.660 such as the American Empire,
00:21:31.720 such as the Israelis and Zionists.
00:21:33.940 And the same way
00:21:34.960 that we saw the British Empire wither away,
00:21:37.980 the sun never set on it,
00:21:39.380 the sun sets on it,
00:21:40.460 we will see a day coming, inshallah,
00:21:42.360 God willing,
00:21:43.040 in our lifetime
00:21:43.740 where this empire,
00:21:45.440 the Zionist Empire,
00:21:46.740 the American Empire
00:21:47.740 will be down in the dustbins of history,
00:21:50.680 inshallah, God willing.
00:21:52.300 I watched the whole clip.
00:21:53.460 I think he also talks about body bags
00:21:55.880 of Israeli soldiers
00:21:58.160 getting sent back
00:21:59.240 of gas and body bags.
00:22:00.500 I have to tell you, Candace,
00:22:01.820 I find him hateful, obviously,
00:22:04.200 but I don't support the Menebris
00:22:05.820 call for a hate crimes prosecution
00:22:08.000 against him.
00:22:08.700 I don't really believe
00:22:09.620 in word policing,
00:22:11.080 even for bigots like this.
00:22:12.540 I think we should screen people
00:22:14.900 when they come to Canada
00:22:16.220 to make sure we're not importing hatred
00:22:17.980 from Iranian agents.
00:22:20.700 I think we have to denounce people like this,
00:22:24.500 but I'm always nervous
00:22:25.620 about hate crime prosecution.
00:22:29.160 I don't think I support this guy.
00:22:30.400 You heard him.
00:22:31.220 He's for eradication.
00:22:32.560 But I think your report
00:22:33.860 gives us a bit of an opportunity
00:22:36.280 to do something
00:22:37.120 that we can all agree on,
00:22:39.000 even free speech purists,
00:22:40.480 and that's this.
00:22:41.260 And what do you think of this?
00:22:42.700 He took the money
00:22:43.800 from the liberal government.
00:22:45.900 He took the summer jobs grant
00:22:47.560 that was denied
00:22:48.720 to 1,600 Christian groups.
00:22:50.880 I think we can demand
00:22:52.600 that he pay that summer jobs grant
00:22:55.400 money back to Trudeau.
00:22:57.700 And I think we should have
00:22:59.780 a big to-do about it.
00:23:01.160 I think we should set up a petition,
00:23:03.120 show people what he says.
00:23:05.500 And I'm not saying
00:23:06.180 throw that man in prison.
00:23:07.500 I'm saying get our bloody
00:23:08.640 taxpayers' dollars back.
00:23:09.780 What do you think about that?
00:23:11.440 I think absolutely.
00:23:12.600 It's an excellent idea.
00:23:13.600 Canadians should put pressure
00:23:14.760 on this kind of individual.
00:23:16.220 You know, I think that
00:23:17.040 there's a difference
00:23:17.800 between hate speech
00:23:19.320 and incitement of violence,
00:23:20.820 which, you know,
00:23:21.380 this kind of seems borderline
00:23:22.860 in my own view.
00:23:24.080 But I do tend to agree
00:23:25.340 that the worst thing
00:23:26.060 you can do
00:23:26.560 with these kind of individuals
00:23:27.620 is expose
00:23:28.440 their hateful ideology
00:23:30.180 for everyone to see.
00:23:31.720 So, you know,
00:23:32.340 you watch that video,
00:23:33.320 you see an individual
00:23:34.560 is so hateful
00:23:35.360 as for someone
00:23:36.200 who's so ungrateful.
00:23:37.500 You know,
00:23:37.660 he's talking about
00:23:38.460 how he loathes
00:23:39.460 and hates the American Empire
00:23:40.680 and the British Empire.
00:23:41.860 Well, Canada is part
00:23:42.680 of that historic framework.
00:23:44.460 And so here he is
00:23:45.320 standing in a free country
00:23:46.460 in Canada,
00:23:47.360 taking advantage
00:23:48.060 of our freedom,
00:23:49.100 of our opportunity,
00:23:50.300 of our liberty,
00:23:50.680 and even of our taxpayer grants.
00:23:53.120 And at the same time,
00:23:54.620 you know,
00:23:54.900 calling for and praying
00:23:55.900 for the end of
00:23:57.200 basically Western civilization
00:23:59.080 as we know it.
00:24:00.380 You know,
00:24:00.880 what a hypocrite.
00:24:01.980 And I think that
00:24:02.620 if enough Canadians
00:24:03.680 raise this as a concern,
00:24:06.020 point out to the Trudeau government
00:24:07.220 that this is totally unacceptable,
00:24:09.020 yeah,
00:24:09.360 we could probably pressure
00:24:10.500 this individual,
00:24:11.320 this group,
00:24:12.900 you know,
00:24:13.380 return the money
00:24:14.200 or hopefully maybe next year
00:24:15.780 Trudeau will get rid
00:24:16.700 of this attestation
00:24:17.380 or change it
00:24:18.080 to limit these kind of groups
00:24:20.180 from being able to receive funding
00:24:21.780 in the first place.
00:24:22.700 Yeah.
00:24:22.920 Well, I mean,
00:24:23.600 that's the thing.
00:24:24.480 It's bad enough
00:24:25.080 what he's saying,
00:24:26.000 but the fact that
00:24:27.060 you and I pay taxes
00:24:28.660 and this money,
00:24:31.120 it doesn't go to your
00:24:31.940 Christian church
00:24:32.740 or your Salvation Army
00:24:33.880 or anything like that,
00:24:34.920 but our tax dollars
00:24:35.900 through Justin Trudeau
00:24:37.300 goes to this guy's organization.
00:24:40.260 Well, Candace,
00:24:40.860 we've set up a petition
00:24:42.500 at payitback.ca,
00:24:46.760 payitback.ca,
00:24:48.100 and I propose
00:24:49.360 that anyone
00:24:50.160 who disagrees
00:24:51.820 with the bigotry
00:24:53.200 of this Iranian agent,
00:24:54.480 and I'm calling him that
00:24:55.340 because this whole Al-Quds day
00:24:56.820 is an Iranian government
00:24:58.080 propaganda exercise
00:24:59.560 around the world.
00:25:00.260 And I tell you,
00:25:02.140 if he dared criticize
00:25:03.000 the Iranian government
00:25:03.900 in the same way,
00:25:04.680 he'd be thrown in prison,
00:25:05.620 by the way.
00:25:06.720 If people sign
00:25:07.980 payitback.ca,
00:25:09.140 I propose that we
00:25:10.060 give that petition
00:25:11.480 to this sheik
00:25:13.160 demanding he pay
00:25:14.540 the money back,
00:25:15.100 but we should also give it
00:25:16.060 to the labor minister,
00:25:17.700 Patty Hajdu,
00:25:18.720 the one who said no
00:25:20.060 to all these Christian churches,
00:25:22.500 Christian summer camps,
00:25:23.780 Christian food banks,
00:25:24.600 but paid this guy,
00:25:27.420 I think she has to show
00:25:28.860 some self-respect
00:25:29.680 and respect for taxpayers
00:25:30.580 and ask for the summer
00:25:31.680 jobs grant back,
00:25:32.760 and we have to show her
00:25:33.580 that thousands of Canadians
00:25:34.620 demand that.
00:25:35.540 So what do you think
00:25:36.240 of a petition
00:25:36.760 at payitback.ca
00:25:38.020 calling for the money
00:25:39.440 to be paid back?
00:25:40.200 That's the least
00:25:40.640 we can do, I think.
00:25:42.400 Yeah, I agree,
00:25:43.580 and I think pressuring
00:25:44.320 these kind of organizations,
00:25:45.520 pressuring, you know,
00:25:46.080 Justin Trudeau was asked
00:25:47.360 about this in the House
00:25:48.160 of Commons yesterday,
00:25:49.580 and, you know,
00:25:50.460 he kind of doubled down
00:25:51.460 on the whole concept
00:25:52.300 that there should be
00:25:53.080 some kind of a liberal
00:25:54.300 values test or attestation
00:25:56.100 in order to receive
00:25:57.320 these kind of fundings.
00:25:58.420 You know, I don't think
00:25:58.960 that these kind of funds
00:25:59.800 should really exist at all,
00:26:01.340 and if they are going to exist,
00:26:02.820 first of all,
00:26:03.320 they should be available
00:26:04.080 to everyone,
00:26:04.980 and if they're not going
00:26:05.700 to be available to someone,
00:26:06.920 it should be organizations
00:26:07.980 like this that promote hate,
00:26:09.760 that promote division,
00:26:10.960 that skew and warp history
00:26:13.460 and promote myths and lies.
00:26:16.640 I think it's shameful
00:26:17.600 that our money is going
00:26:18.520 to a group that's so hateful,
00:26:20.080 so anti-Canadian.
00:26:21.080 I would definitely support
00:26:22.780 that petition,
00:26:23.460 and I'll share it
00:26:24.140 through True North Initiative.
00:26:25.860 We'll get that out.
00:26:26.880 I want as many Canadians
00:26:27.820 as possible to sign
00:26:28.780 that petition to show,
00:26:30.480 you know,
00:26:31.000 the Trudeau liberal government
00:26:31.980 and this Islamic organization
00:26:33.520 that this kind of activity,
00:26:35.240 this kind of speech
00:26:36.060 is not welcome in Canada
00:26:38.000 and really should not be
00:26:39.040 receiving support
00:26:39.920 from taxpayers.
00:26:40.940 Yeah, I think that's
00:26:41.540 the least to me.
00:26:42.040 I won't go as far as
00:26:42.940 B'nai B'rith and call
00:26:43.620 for a criminal prosecution
00:26:44.660 to this guy.
00:26:45.320 I'm more of a free speech, Nick,
00:26:46.960 but I think every one of us
00:26:48.540 can agree this guy
00:26:50.480 should not be getting
00:26:51.740 our tax dollars.
00:26:52.580 Well, Candice, thank you.
00:26:53.880 Again, you break the news nationally
00:26:55.640 and it's such a pleasure to see
00:26:57.220 and all the media party
00:26:58.420 chases to catch up with you
00:26:59.960 or sometimes they even denounce you
00:27:01.680 for even breaking the news
00:27:03.000 because they don't want
00:27:03.540 to see the truth,
00:27:04.440 but you've done it again.
00:27:05.440 So congrats to you on the scoop
00:27:06.800 and I think our viewers
00:27:08.500 would love to join in
00:27:09.500 and go to payitback.ca.
00:27:12.280 Let's see if we can get
00:27:12.980 10,000 names.
00:27:14.020 I think we can get
00:27:14.720 10,000 names pretty easy,
00:27:16.300 maybe more when people
00:27:17.200 learn the facts about this.
00:27:19.120 I agree and, you know,
00:27:20.640 again, I encourage Canadians
00:27:21.740 to share this video
00:27:22.540 and to share the petition,
00:27:24.700 get people on board.
00:27:26.140 Let's show this government,
00:27:27.660 this organization,
00:27:28.820 that this kind of stuff
00:27:30.160 is just not welcome
00:27:30.920 in our country.
00:27:31.820 All right.
00:27:32.280 Well, congratulations to you
00:27:33.780 and now it's up to us, folks.
00:27:35.480 Let's sign this petition.
00:27:36.680 It's not even about
00:27:37.640 the amount of money.
00:27:38.660 I bet they only got
00:27:39.400 a few thousand bucks.
00:27:40.880 It's the symbol
00:27:42.540 that Canadian taxpayers
00:27:44.160 are paying for that bigotry.
00:27:47.200 I'm sure there's
00:27:47.600 no other word for it.
00:27:48.820 Go to payitback.ca
00:27:50.580 and we'll give you an update
00:27:51.360 on this in maybe a week or so.
00:27:53.100 All right.
00:27:53.580 Stay with us.
00:27:54.360 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:28:03.780 Well, for weeks,
00:28:08.720 there's been a staring contest
00:28:10.880 between Justin Trudeau
00:28:12.380 and Donald Trump
00:28:13.040 on the issue of tariffs in trade,
00:28:15.580 whether it's steel,
00:28:16.940 the auto sector or dairy.
00:28:18.980 Things seem to be in hand
00:28:20.420 until the G7 meeting in Quebec
00:28:23.000 where they went off the rails
00:28:24.540 through a misunderstanding
00:28:25.960 or a few careless comments
00:28:28.760 and tweets.
00:28:29.520 Oh, my God,
00:28:30.340 it looks terrifying.
00:28:31.960 Don't take it from me
00:28:32.820 from a political point of view.
00:28:34.220 Take it from two different
00:28:35.820 Canadian banks
00:28:36.840 that have run the numbers.
00:28:38.120 I have in front of me
00:28:38.960 a report from TD Bank
00:28:40.440 that says if this trade war
00:28:42.620 actually comes to pass,
00:28:44.720 160,000 Canadian jobs
00:28:48.480 would be in jeopardy.
00:28:50.560 The Scotiabank says
00:28:52.560 that such a trade war
00:28:53.520 would shrink Canada's GDP
00:28:55.960 by 1.8%.
00:28:58.360 We're talking about a recession.
00:29:01.220 Is this going to happen?
00:29:02.540 And can we survive?
00:29:04.560 These aren't just hyperbole,
00:29:06.120 hyperbolic questions.
00:29:07.160 They're real life now, I think.
00:29:08.920 Joining us now via Skype
00:29:09.860 to talk about this
00:29:10.560 is our friend Professor Ian Lee.
00:29:12.180 He's with the Sprott School of Business,
00:29:14.700 an associate professor
00:29:15.740 at Carleton University.
00:29:17.500 Professor Lee,
00:29:18.220 I'm sounding dramatic.
00:29:20.740 It's not me that's dramatic.
00:29:22.020 These numbers are terrifying.
00:29:23.880 There's also predictions
00:29:25.680 that our dollar will fall
00:29:27.100 into the 60-something cent range.
00:29:30.400 Tell me how bad it would be
00:29:31.500 if this Trump-Trudeau trade war
00:29:33.380 actually happened.
00:29:35.640 Excellent question.
00:29:36.940 Good to speak with you, Ezra.
00:29:39.000 There's two separate issues.
00:29:40.620 The issue is how likely
00:29:41.620 is it going to happen?
00:29:42.920 And if it did happen,
00:29:44.720 how bad will it be?
00:29:46.620 I'm actually of the view
00:29:48.440 that the consequences
00:29:49.780 are so bad
00:29:50.820 that it won't happen.
00:29:52.480 You know,
00:29:52.680 this is almost like
00:29:53.460 the logic of mutual assured destruction
00:29:55.400 back in the old days
00:29:57.620 between the United States
00:29:59.040 and the Soviet Union.
00:30:00.660 The consequences of nuclear war
00:30:02.420 were so awful to both sides.
00:30:04.020 The devastation of life
00:30:04.860 was so awful.
00:30:05.860 It ensured it didn't happen.
00:30:07.820 But in that instance,
00:30:09.320 there was a rough equivalence.
00:30:11.060 Both sides had enormous numbers
00:30:12.640 of nuclear warheads.
00:30:14.260 In this instance,
00:30:15.260 my analogy falls down.
00:30:18.120 And that falls down
00:30:19.100 because we don't have
00:30:20.840 lots and lots of nuclear warheads,
00:30:22.660 to continue my metaphor.
00:30:24.000 What I'm trying to say is
00:30:25.720 the United States
00:30:26.880 is 10 times bigger.
00:30:28.400 And people say,
00:30:28.940 oh, 10 times?
00:30:29.660 You know, that's that big.
00:30:31.000 Well, it's sort of like
00:30:32.000 a person who plays peewee hockey,
00:30:33.820 you know,
00:30:34.320 at the age of five or six,
00:30:36.300 saying,
00:30:36.740 I'm going to get into a fight
00:30:37.680 with an NHL
00:30:38.460 professional hockey player.
00:30:39.720 That's not a contest.
00:30:41.380 I mean,
00:30:41.700 it shouldn't even be allowed
00:30:42.940 to be child abuse
00:30:44.180 because the small child
00:30:46.020 would just be,
00:30:46.640 you know,
00:30:47.200 it would be horrible
00:30:48.320 what would happen to them
00:30:49.040 if they got in a fight
00:30:49.700 with a huge hockey player.
00:30:51.820 The numbers
00:30:52.960 in these two studies
00:30:54.080 are showing
00:30:55.140 A,
00:30:56.340 that we're
00:30:56.740 one-tenth
00:30:58.040 the size
00:30:58.940 of the United States.
00:31:00.460 They also show
00:31:01.540 the incredible dependence
00:31:03.080 of our economy
00:31:05.260 on the United States.
00:31:07.100 To put this
00:31:07.860 as bluntly as I can,
00:31:09.200 and I know it's very
00:31:09.840 politically incorrect
00:31:10.620 right now,
00:31:11.640 but we need
00:31:13.040 the United States
00:31:14.120 far,
00:31:15.300 far more
00:31:16.160 than the United States
00:31:17.460 needs Canada.
00:31:18.680 And I know it's,
00:31:19.600 you know,
00:31:19.700 where there's a lot
00:31:20.240 of people,
00:31:20.720 you know,
00:31:20.960 pounding their chest
00:31:21.780 and saying,
00:31:22.880 you know,
00:31:23.040 let's stand up
00:31:23.740 to that bully Donald Trump,
00:31:25.360 you know,
00:31:25.600 and poke him in the eye
00:31:26.620 because he's rude
00:31:27.860 and all those,
00:31:28.760 you know,
00:31:28.980 things.
00:31:30.460 My late mother,
00:31:31.540 who was a very,
00:31:32.300 very practical person,
00:31:33.340 never went to university,
00:31:34.320 grew up in depression,
00:31:35.220 Saskatchewan,
00:31:35.880 actually.
00:31:36.720 And she used to tell me
00:31:37.800 over and over and over
00:31:38.640 when I was a kid,
00:31:39.780 you know,
00:31:40.040 you don't cut off your nose
00:31:41.540 despite your face.
00:31:43.300 Yeah.
00:31:43.580 And if we get into
00:31:44.820 a trade war
00:31:45.480 with the United States,
00:31:46.380 we are truly
00:31:47.560 cutting off
00:31:48.580 our nose
00:31:49.680 despite our face
00:31:51.480 and we are going
00:31:52.140 to hurt ourselves.
00:31:53.420 We're not going
00:31:54.340 to hurt
00:31:54.740 the United States.
00:31:56.260 Yeah.
00:31:56.560 Well,
00:31:57.100 and there's,
00:31:57.620 those are the two
00:31:58.060 opposing forces.
00:31:59.180 Politically,
00:31:59.880 it's like catnip
00:32:01.000 to politicians,
00:32:02.000 especially those
00:32:02.540 on the left
00:32:03.080 to demonize Trump.
00:32:04.540 It's,
00:32:04.920 it's the easy thing.
00:32:06.800 Hollywood's behind it.
00:32:07.700 The media are generally
00:32:08.440 behind it.
00:32:09.500 Yes.
00:32:10.340 So you get applause
00:32:11.920 from certain quarters.
00:32:14.120 But,
00:32:14.620 so that's tempting
00:32:15.300 to a politician.
00:32:16.120 Applause and moral support
00:32:17.580 and maybe Saturday Night Live
00:32:19.220 will cheer for you.
00:32:20.220 But on the other hand,
00:32:21.340 that economic devastation,
00:32:23.360 here's what I think
00:32:24.860 is different about Trump
00:32:26.100 and you can love him
00:32:27.140 or hate him,
00:32:27.840 but I think,
00:32:29.160 Professor,
00:32:30.080 when he talks
00:32:31.680 about trade wars,
00:32:33.860 this is not something
00:32:35.000 he's just discovered
00:32:36.480 in the last year.
00:32:37.320 I've seen interviews
00:32:38.900 of Trump in the 80s
00:32:40.660 on the Oprah Winfrey show
00:32:42.340 talking about trade barriers.
00:32:45.240 So this isn't
00:32:46.220 some casual thing
00:32:47.480 he's trying out.
00:32:48.340 He's been thinking
00:32:49.000 about it for decades
00:32:50.000 and I see he just got tough
00:32:52.320 with Chinese tariffs
00:32:53.960 of an enormous scale.
00:32:56.220 Here's my,
00:32:56.760 here's my question.
00:32:59.080 People who think
00:33:00.160 Trump is bluffing
00:33:01.340 in a poker game
00:33:02.340 that he would never do it
00:33:03.960 because of,
00:33:04.740 you know,
00:33:04.940 like you say,
00:33:05.440 the mutually assured destruction.
00:33:07.600 Trump,
00:33:07.860 not only do I not think
00:33:10.120 he's bluffing on Canada,
00:33:11.800 we see he's not bluffing
00:33:13.920 with mighty China.
00:33:15.980 And so here's my question.
00:33:18.240 I'm sorry,
00:33:18.600 I'm just giving you
00:33:20.160 some of my thoughts,
00:33:20.960 but my question is,
00:33:21.820 do you think there are
00:33:23.000 cooler heads in Ottawa
00:33:24.360 who would say,
00:33:25.800 whatever you think of Trump,
00:33:27.560 this man has ice
00:33:29.720 in his veins on tariffs
00:33:31.100 and if he's willing
00:33:32.100 to fight China,
00:33:32.840 he'll fight us too?
00:33:35.480 Ezra,
00:33:36.000 I completely agree.
00:33:37.200 I've been saying this
00:33:37.900 for two years.
00:33:39.220 Just let me deal
00:33:39.920 quickly with your first point.
00:33:42.260 Trump did not just suddenly
00:33:43.800 wake up one morning,
00:33:45.120 you know,
00:33:45.760 and say,
00:33:46.600 gee whiz,
00:33:47.020 I think I'm going to start,
00:33:48.420 you know,
00:33:49.060 yelling and bluffing,
00:33:50.320 blustering the neighbors
00:33:51.280 over trade.
00:33:52.680 I went back and read
00:33:54.200 just after he became
00:33:55.800 the candidate
00:33:56.280 for the Republican Party.
00:33:57.400 I read every economic speech
00:33:59.040 that he had given
00:34:00.160 to that point
00:34:01.060 and I've read
00:34:01.800 every economic speech
00:34:02.720 he's given since
00:34:03.460 that it could be classified
00:34:04.720 as a speech
00:34:05.500 on trade and investment.
00:34:07.380 This is his issue.
00:34:10.220 This,
00:34:10.580 I believe it's
00:34:11.620 not so much immigration.
00:34:13.240 I'm not suggesting
00:34:15.340 immigration is not important.
00:34:16.680 What I'm saying is
00:34:17.480 the trade file,
00:34:19.380 this sense that
00:34:20.220 America has been
00:34:21.540 taken advantage of
00:34:22.800 by its allies
00:34:25.640 and its enemies
00:34:26.800 for the last
00:34:27.940 30,
00:34:28.560 40,
00:34:29.000 50 years
00:34:29.660 is deep
00:34:30.760 in Donald Trump's
00:34:32.060 psyche.
00:34:32.960 Point one.
00:34:33.600 Point two,
00:34:34.320 this is not
00:34:35.400 all by itself
00:34:36.580 in Donald Trump's
00:34:37.500 head.
00:34:38.040 There are large
00:34:39.080 numbers of Americans.
00:34:40.060 I have traveled
00:34:40.940 on road trips
00:34:41.680 across many states
00:34:42.700 as recently
00:34:43.520 as last summer
00:34:44.580 to the Rock and Roll
00:34:45.280 Hall of Fame,
00:34:46.120 went to Canton,
00:34:46.940 Ohio,
00:34:47.700 and went to
00:34:48.120 Cleveland,
00:34:48.620 Ohio,
00:34:49.440 went across
00:34:50.120 upstate New York
00:34:51.560 and upstate
00:34:52.660 Pennsylvania,
00:34:54.160 and we drive down
00:34:55.260 every year
00:34:55.800 to Hilton Head
00:34:56.540 and we've spoken
00:34:58.040 to people
00:34:58.460 in rural South Carolina,
00:34:59.780 rural North Carolina.
00:35:00.560 If you get outside
00:35:02.180 the big cities,
00:35:03.220 the San Francisco's,
00:35:04.220 the Chicago's,
00:35:04.940 the New York's,
00:35:05.580 where the very
00:35:06.280 well-educated
00:35:07.140 and high-income
00:35:07.920 wealthy
00:35:08.580 and upper-middle
00:35:09.340 class and elites
00:35:10.100 live,
00:35:10.600 they're doing fine.
00:35:12.040 But you get out
00:35:12.720 to the small towns,
00:35:13.800 the rural,
00:35:14.420 the semi-rural,
00:35:15.460 the burbs,
00:35:16.200 the exurbs,
00:35:17.240 and it's a completely
00:35:18.400 different America.
00:35:19.720 And he resonates
00:35:20.520 because they feel
00:35:21.660 that they have been
00:35:22.920 exploited,
00:35:23.760 that they have been
00:35:24.640 taken advantage of.
00:35:25.960 And so Trump
00:35:26.660 is absolutely
00:35:27.580 sincere and real
00:35:29.000 on this,
00:35:29.600 whether we hate him
00:35:30.640 or not,
00:35:31.380 whether we like him
00:35:32.320 or not.
00:35:32.960 He is absolutely authentic.
00:35:34.960 He is going to deliver
00:35:36.080 on this because he is
00:35:37.420 convinced this is going
00:35:38.400 to get,
00:35:39.020 he's going to retain
00:35:39.940 control of the Congress,
00:35:42.340 of the U.S. House
00:35:43.160 this fall,
00:35:43.800 and ensure his
00:35:44.920 re-election in 2020.
00:35:46.640 So yes,
00:35:47.100 he has ice in his veins.
00:35:48.420 The second part
00:35:49.040 of your question,
00:35:49.580 very quickly,
00:35:50.620 Ezra,
00:35:51.400 are there people
00:35:52.180 in the Ottawa bubble,
00:35:53.280 and I'm obviously
00:35:53.980 being a bit,
00:35:54.860 you know,
00:35:55.340 sarcastic when I say that,
00:35:56.860 are there people
00:35:57.500 in the Ottawa bubble
00:35:58.180 who understand that?
00:35:59.320 I'm not sure,
00:36:00.340 and I've lived here
00:36:00.920 all my life,
00:36:02.060 but, you know,
00:36:02.900 there's such a contempt
00:36:04.900 towards and dislike
00:36:06.560 towards Trump
00:36:08.020 that I think
00:36:09.060 it has clouded
00:36:09.900 the thinking
00:36:10.420 of people,
00:36:11.420 many people in Ottawa.
00:36:13.140 Some say,
00:36:13.880 oh,
00:36:14.000 we'll stand up
00:36:14.540 to the bully
00:36:14.960 not having any sense
00:36:16.120 that we don't have
00:36:16.820 the capacity
00:36:17.540 to stand up
00:36:18.620 to an economy
00:36:19.280 that's 10 times larger.
00:36:20.820 Then there's others
00:36:21.560 who don't think
00:36:22.140 that Trump is going
00:36:22.800 to do it,
00:36:23.300 that he's just bluffing.
00:36:24.660 And so we've
00:36:25.360 backed ourselves
00:36:26.240 into a corner.
00:36:27.280 I believe that Mr. Trudeau,
00:36:29.000 went into
00:36:29.860 the NAFTA negotiations
00:36:30.880 and Ms. Freeland
00:36:31.880 making a huge
00:36:33.480 strategic mistake.
00:36:35.380 They went in saying,
00:36:36.760 we're going to protect
00:36:37.820 those six or seven
00:36:38.760 or eight protected industries.
00:36:40.440 We're going to defend
00:36:41.320 them to the death.
00:36:42.320 Instead of going in
00:36:43.620 and saying,
00:36:44.540 we must have access
00:36:47.020 for all 36 million Canadians
00:36:48.680 to the totality
00:36:50.320 of the American economy
00:36:51.820 without tariffs
00:36:53.440 and with the dispute mechanism
00:36:55.220 and to achieve that end,
00:36:58.280 everything is on the table.
00:37:00.320 Telecom,
00:37:00.920 Canadian telecom,
00:37:02.300 dairy,
00:37:02.840 supply management,
00:37:04.200 banking,
00:37:05.040 airlines,
00:37:05.720 et cetera.
00:37:06.500 Instead,
00:37:07.060 they didn't.
00:37:07.820 They went in
00:37:08.340 and said,
00:37:08.720 we're going to stand up
00:37:09.480 to the bully
00:37:09.940 and we're going to keep
00:37:10.720 protecting our protected industries.
00:37:12.620 I think that this was
00:37:13.700 an enormous strategic mistake.
00:37:15.820 Yeah.
00:37:15.920 And there are all those
00:37:17.220 strange obsessions
00:37:19.240 with gender analysis
00:37:22.100 and global warming,
00:37:24.520 things that,
00:37:25.340 you know,
00:37:25.560 I'm against them substantively,
00:37:27.280 but even from a
00:37:27.960 prosperous point of view,
00:37:29.600 put them in another treaty,
00:37:30.720 not a trade treaty.
00:37:31.580 You want to talk about gender?
00:37:33.680 What's that doing in an AFTRA?
00:37:35.080 Let me ask you,
00:37:35.760 here's what scares me.
00:37:38.480 Detroit,
00:37:39.880 Michigan,
00:37:40.380 Ohio,
00:37:40.800 these places you mentioned,
00:37:42.780 they're hurting.
00:37:44.240 They were called the Rust Belt
00:37:45.280 for so long,
00:37:46.100 as in it used to be
00:37:47.040 the steel belt,
00:37:47.600 but it got worn out
00:37:48.640 and obsolete.
00:37:49.680 Trump has said,
00:37:50.380 I'm bringing the factories back.
00:37:52.280 He was focused with Mexico,
00:37:53.720 but now we're on his radar screen
00:37:55.580 and that's bad,
00:37:56.160 I think.
00:37:57.160 I understand that Canada
00:37:58.640 exports many more cars
00:38:00.440 to the States
00:38:00.980 than we import.
00:38:02.940 If Ontario hates Trump,
00:38:04.700 and I don't think
00:38:05.220 all Ontarians do,
00:38:06.140 but the leadership does,
00:38:07.880 what does Trump care?
00:38:10.060 He doesn't have any votes
00:38:10.840 in Ontario.
00:38:11.520 If he moves some of those
00:38:12.540 big three factories
00:38:13.480 from Windsor,
00:38:15.040 from Oakville
00:38:15.640 back into Detroit
00:38:16.580 and Ohio,
00:38:18.200 he'll have a lock
00:38:19.520 on those states forever.
00:38:22.060 And yeah,
00:38:23.260 people in Ontario
00:38:24.160 and Quebec
00:38:24.520 will be very upset with that,
00:38:25.740 but they don't vote
00:38:26.580 in the Electoral College.
00:38:28.480 I am truly,
00:38:30.220 I don't think
00:38:30.760 we were on his radar.
00:38:32.080 I think he was focused
00:38:32.940 on China and Mexico,
00:38:34.560 and we just sort of
00:38:35.580 flicked his nose
00:38:37.080 once too many times.
00:38:39.160 What do you think
00:38:39.920 the likelihood is
00:38:41.140 that Trump is saying,
00:38:42.180 the heck with it,
00:38:43.360 if I bring a million
00:38:45.260 or even a half a million
00:38:46.700 more car production
00:38:48.080 a year
00:38:48.640 to Ohio,
00:38:51.420 Michigan,
00:38:52.300 people will say
00:38:54.380 he did it.
00:38:55.120 Trump did it.
00:38:55.820 He brought industry back,
00:38:57.140 and he'll be assured
00:38:58.060 of a re-election.
00:38:59.180 I think that's so tempting.
00:39:00.860 Trudeau doesn't have
00:39:01.520 anything to offer
00:39:02.380 that's more tempting.
00:39:03.500 I agree,
00:39:06.240 and that's my real fear.
00:39:07.800 I have said over and over,
00:39:09.280 Trump doesn't care
00:39:10.760 what the voters
00:39:11.840 of Mexico
00:39:12.960 or Canada
00:39:13.600 or Germany
00:39:14.320 or France
00:39:15.420 or UK
00:39:15.900 or anywhere else
00:39:16.800 say or think.
00:39:18.060 They're not going
00:39:18.600 to vote for him.
00:39:19.620 He knows that.
00:39:20.580 He knows that
00:39:21.300 he was elected
00:39:22.460 by the thinnest of margins
00:39:23.520 in three states
00:39:24.340 that put him there.
00:39:25.560 I'm referring to Michigan.
00:39:26.740 I'm referring to Ohio.
00:39:28.120 I'm referring to Pennsylvania.
00:39:29.680 And in,
00:39:30.500 and I have driven
00:39:31.100 through those states.
00:39:31.780 I mean,
00:39:32.100 as recently
00:39:32.580 as only two months ago.
00:39:34.300 And there is,
00:39:35.620 again,
00:39:36.200 it's not,
00:39:36.800 I don't think Canadians
00:39:37.660 really have this full
00:39:38.900 accurate sense
00:39:39.940 of what's going on.
00:39:41.020 He is popular
00:39:42.360 in these
00:39:43.900 blue collar
00:39:46.500 and neighborhoods
00:39:47.580 and communities,
00:39:49.060 Scranton,
00:39:50.280 Pennsylvania,
00:39:51.320 for example,
00:39:52.380 where,
00:39:52.940 you know,
00:39:53.420 they are not as prosperous.
00:39:54.960 I mean,
00:39:55.120 it's obvious with the eye.
00:39:56.540 You don't have to look
00:39:57.080 at statistics.
00:39:57.660 You can see it,
00:39:58.780 you know,
00:39:59.080 just in the housing
00:40:00.020 and the cars
00:40:01.140 and so forth.
00:40:02.500 And they like him.
00:40:04.100 They respect him
00:40:04.740 because they think
00:40:05.460 he is standing up
00:40:06.660 for them.
00:40:07.980 And this is what
00:40:08.780 people in Canada
00:40:09.840 don't realize.
00:40:11.000 And that's why,
00:40:11.560 again,
00:40:11.740 I said I think
00:40:12.620 that Mr. Trudeau
00:40:13.360 has made a serious
00:40:14.660 mistake
00:40:15.200 with Ms. Freeland
00:40:17.240 in negotiating.
00:40:18.240 Instead of saying,
00:40:19.720 what can we
00:40:20.600 offer up
00:40:22.120 in order
00:40:23.100 to assure
00:40:24.080 as much as possible
00:40:25.760 guaranteed access
00:40:26.500 to the entire
00:40:27.260 U.S. market
00:40:27.900 of $20 trillion.
00:40:29.680 Instead,
00:40:30.360 we got so focused
00:40:31.440 on defending
00:40:32.360 9,000 dairy farmers
00:40:34.020 and several thousand
00:40:35.660 workers in the
00:40:36.380 telecom industry
00:40:37.260 that he's lost sight
00:40:39.180 of the grand prize,
00:40:40.360 which is that
00:40:40.940 our economy
00:40:41.500 is completely
00:40:42.080 dependent on the U.S.
00:40:42.980 and we must have
00:40:44.000 access
00:40:44.380 to the entire
00:40:45.600 U.S. economy.
00:40:46.540 And we risk
00:40:47.660 losing that
00:40:49.280 because
00:40:49.720 of our,
00:40:50.960 I think,
00:40:51.820 intransigence
00:40:53.180 in negotiating
00:40:54.180 at NAFTA.
00:40:54.940 I tell you,
00:40:56.720 I wish there
00:40:57.180 were some
00:40:57.520 elder statesmen.
00:40:59.180 Even if it was
00:40:59.800 from a different
00:41:00.220 party,
00:41:00.660 I know,
00:41:01.220 I just sense
00:41:02.540 in my bones
00:41:03.040 that Brian Mulrooney
00:41:04.020 would help
00:41:04.580 if asked.
00:41:06.560 I think that
00:41:07.400 even Jean Chrétien,
00:41:09.260 I mean,
00:41:09.520 he's a proud
00:41:10.740 Canadian
00:41:11.120 and he's poked
00:41:11.780 the U.S.
00:41:12.320 in his day.
00:41:13.040 I think Chrétien's
00:41:14.140 a dealmaker
00:41:14.700 by nature.
00:41:15.820 I actually think
00:41:16.680 he could even help
00:41:17.620 and I'm not a
00:41:18.180 super fan of his.
00:41:19.660 I think
00:41:20.440 even Stephen Harper
00:41:21.940 in his own way
00:41:22.940 is trying to
00:41:23.960 smooth things over.
00:41:24.940 I put this out
00:41:26.940 on Twitter
00:41:27.260 the other day,
00:41:27.760 Conrad Black,
00:41:29.200 a former
00:41:30.340 personal friend
00:41:31.360 of Trump
00:41:32.220 who did business
00:41:32.960 with him in Chicago.
00:41:34.320 There are
00:41:34.820 elder statesman
00:41:35.800 type characters
00:41:36.780 who don't have
00:41:38.140 the Trump derangement
00:41:38.980 syndrome in them
00:41:39.780 and who understand
00:41:41.080 what's at stake.
00:41:42.140 I just don't know
00:41:43.020 if there's anyone
00:41:43.580 in Trudeau's circle
00:41:44.560 that could let go
00:41:45.540 of the steering wheel
00:41:47.000 and let a grown-up
00:41:48.120 take over.
00:41:49.040 Last word
00:41:49.520 to you,
00:41:50.080 Professor.
00:41:50.560 Listen,
00:41:51.180 I'm a critic
00:41:51.620 of Trudeau's
00:41:52.180 for partisan reasons
00:41:53.120 but God forbid
00:41:54.460 we lose Canada's
00:41:55.480 auto industry.
00:41:56.540 It ain't never
00:41:57.060 coming back
00:41:57.680 and we've already
00:41:58.240 lost so much
00:41:58.980 of our oil
00:41:59.420 and gas industry.
00:42:00.820 Is there
00:42:01.340 a way that
00:42:02.780 some elder statesman,
00:42:04.700 even if he's
00:42:05.180 from another party,
00:42:06.400 even if it's
00:42:06.980 Frank McKenna
00:42:07.680 who I think
00:42:08.420 did a good job
00:42:09.260 as an ambassador
00:42:11.280 down there,
00:42:12.300 is there someone
00:42:12.980 that can maybe
00:42:13.900 help straighten
00:42:15.560 things out?
00:42:16.700 I do believe
00:42:17.740 there is
00:42:18.200 and again
00:42:18.640 it goes back
00:42:19.140 to a mistake.
00:42:19.780 I'm not a partisan.
00:42:20.600 I don't belong
00:42:20.960 to any political
00:42:21.540 party.
00:42:21.980 I do not donate
00:42:22.560 money to any
00:42:23.140 political party
00:42:23.760 but I think
00:42:25.040 that Mr. Trudeau
00:42:25.760 when he did
00:42:26.280 after he became
00:42:26.880 the leader
00:42:27.260 as we all know
00:42:28.000 he famously
00:42:28.840 threw at the elders
00:42:29.720 in the Liberal Party.
00:42:31.120 Many of them
00:42:31.540 were blue liberals
00:42:32.460 which is the word
00:42:33.240 we give for business
00:42:34.080 liberals
00:42:34.360 whom I do respect.
00:42:35.820 I include
00:42:36.200 Frank McKenna
00:42:36.860 in that.
00:42:37.480 I include
00:42:37.860 Jean Charest
00:42:38.520 who I have
00:42:39.200 enormous respect
00:42:39.860 for.
00:42:40.540 Robert Bourassa
00:42:41.280 the late Robert
00:42:42.040 Bourassa.
00:42:42.860 John Manley
00:42:43.100 maybe.
00:42:43.680 John Manley.
00:42:44.620 There are
00:42:45.200 I'm hoping
00:42:46.200 that a group
00:42:47.240 of senior
00:42:48.020 elder
00:42:48.600 liberal
00:42:49.300 Jean Chrétien
00:42:50.160 approach Mr. Trudeau
00:42:51.980 very privately
00:42:53.120 quietly
00:42:53.760 and say
00:42:54.580 look
00:42:54.880 Mr. Trudeau
00:42:56.060 you've had
00:42:57.060 24 months
00:42:57.820 to try out
00:42:58.340 that progressive
00:42:58.960 agenda
00:42:59.460 of yours
00:43:00.280 and it has
00:43:01.420 failed miserably
00:43:02.540 and we're at risk
00:43:04.000 we're risking
00:43:04.640 the entire economy
00:43:05.700 of Canada
00:43:06.660 and they could
00:43:07.900 provide
00:43:08.920 call it
00:43:09.500 a backroom
00:43:10.620 kitchen cabinet
00:43:11.520 to him
00:43:12.620 for this crisis
00:43:13.640 and then give him
00:43:14.960 the advice
00:43:15.660 that he's
00:43:16.200 clearly
00:43:16.720 not receiving
00:43:17.620 from his aides
00:43:18.380 in the PMO
00:43:19.060 or his cabinet
00:43:19.880 ministers.
00:43:20.980 Well I tell you
00:43:21.480 for the sake
00:43:22.800 of so much
00:43:23.460 of our industrial
00:43:24.120 economy
00:43:24.560 I hope we get
00:43:25.180 it back on track
00:43:25.760 Professor you've
00:43:26.620 been very generous
00:43:27.280 with your time
00:43:27.800 thanks so much
00:43:28.440 for your point
00:43:29.300 of view
00:43:29.560 and God willing
00:43:30.280 one of those
00:43:30.760 elder spatesmen
00:43:31.500 in the Liberal
00:43:32.140 Party
00:43:32.520 at least
00:43:33.280 will be able
00:43:34.300 to get through
00:43:34.860 to Trudeau
00:43:35.380 and pull him
00:43:36.200 off his collision
00:43:36.940 course.
00:43:37.300 Thanks for your
00:43:37.680 time today
00:43:38.020 Professor.
00:43:39.160 My pleasure
00:43:39.640 Ezra
00:43:40.140 thanks very much.
00:43:40.900 All right
00:43:41.160 there you have it
00:43:41.680 Professor Ian Lee
00:43:42.600 he's with the
00:43:43.460 Sprott School
00:43:44.180 of Business
00:43:44.860 at Carleton
00:43:46.160 University.
00:43:46.860 Stay with us
00:43:47.420 more ahead
00:43:48.000 on The Rebel.
00:43:59.500 Hey welcome back
00:44:00.640 on my monologue
00:44:01.400 yesterday about
00:44:02.020 Justin Trudeau
00:44:02.580 wanting a new
00:44:03.160 government jet
00:44:04.200 because of a
00:44:05.040 loose wire in a
00:44:05.880 gauge.
00:44:06.940 Harry writes
00:44:07.500 as a former
00:44:08.920 RCAF soldier
00:44:10.060 I was
00:44:10.340 communications
00:44:10.860 system tech
00:44:11.620 air
00:44:12.020 and repaired
00:44:12.900 many many
00:44:13.720 loose wires
00:44:14.480 they were
00:44:15.580 very simple
00:44:16.260 repairs with
00:44:16.800 minimal cost
00:44:17.400 could you
00:44:17.700 imagine
00:44:18.100 what a luxury
00:44:18.920 of an air
00:44:19.400 force
00:44:19.740 we would have
00:44:20.700 had if we
00:44:22.000 follow the
00:44:22.360 same procedure
00:44:22.840 that our
00:44:23.120 prime minister
00:44:23.520 follows
00:44:23.860 talk about
00:44:24.280 entitlement
00:44:24.760 exactly
00:44:26.560 a loose wire
00:44:28.600 so you want
00:44:29.060 to spend
00:44:29.440 tens of
00:44:30.340 millions of
00:44:30.860 dollars
00:44:31.140 on a luxury
00:44:32.000 jet but
00:44:32.560 our fighter
00:44:33.760 pilots
00:44:34.160 they have to
00:44:35.200 get hand-me-downs
00:44:35.940 from Australia.
00:44:37.800 James writes
00:44:38.360 I think Australia
00:44:39.520 has a used
00:44:40.160 Airbus
00:44:40.660 they will sell
00:44:41.300 us along
00:44:41.820 with the
00:44:42.120 used F-18s
00:44:43.560 yeah but
00:44:44.280 only the best
00:44:45.200 for Justin
00:44:45.760 Trudeau
00:44:46.140 I mean
00:44:46.380 seriously
00:44:46.740 he's letting
00:44:47.820 his chef
00:44:48.320 live at
00:44:48.720 24 Sussex
00:44:49.380 Drive
00:44:49.660 he's living
00:44:50.420 at Rideau
00:44:50.820 Hall
00:44:51.100 and he just
00:44:51.840 spent $7,500
00:44:52.640 on a child's
00:44:53.740 play structure
00:44:54.880 at Harrington
00:44:55.600 Lake
00:44:55.920 he's going
00:44:57.320 for like
00:44:58.340 he wants
00:44:59.440 to outshine
00:45:00.320 Donald Trump
00:45:01.280 and Prince
00:45:01.820 Al-Walid
00:45:02.240 I think.
00:45:03.780 Wayne writes
00:45:04.440 another
00:45:05.460 liberal
00:45:05.780 politician
00:45:06.200 who feels
00:45:06.720 he's entitled
00:45:07.380 to his
00:45:07.760 entitlements
00:45:08.240 nothing to
00:45:09.160 see or hear
00:45:09.560 folks
00:45:09.960 move along
00:45:10.500 yeah it's
00:45:11.100 hard to
00:45:11.460 imagine
00:45:11.880 the media
00:45:13.460 culture
00:45:13.860 that got
00:45:14.840 Bev Oda
00:45:15.560 drummed out
00:45:16.180 of cabinet
00:45:16.640 over a
00:45:17.360 $16
00:45:17.820 orange juice
00:45:18.880 or had
00:45:20.480 a year
00:45:20.740 and a half
00:45:21.040 scandal
00:45:21.600 over
00:45:23.420 Mike Duffy
00:45:24.420 having
00:45:26.460 $90,000
00:45:27.260 of his
00:45:28.080 expenses
00:45:28.600 paid to
00:45:30.260 the government
00:45:30.860 by Nigel Wright
00:45:32.120 the chief
00:45:32.440 of staff
00:45:32.760 so the
00:45:33.080 scandal there
00:45:33.840 that led
00:45:34.520 to this
00:45:34.800 enormous
00:45:35.120 criminal
00:45:35.460 trial
00:45:35.760 which failed
00:45:36.280 of course
00:45:36.700 was that
00:45:37.840 conservatives
00:45:38.400 paid money
00:45:39.440 to the
00:45:40.480 government
00:45:40.940 I long
00:45:42.160 for those
00:45:42.660 kind of
00:45:43.100 scandals
00:45:43.540 don't you
00:45:44.080 yeah
00:45:44.560 well folks
00:45:46.120 that's the
00:45:46.480 show for
00:45:46.800 today
00:45:47.080 on behalf
00:45:47.700 of all
00:45:47.960 of us
00:45:48.120 here at
00:45:48.360 Rebel World
00:45:48.760 headquarters
00:45:49.180 to you
00:45:49.500 at home
00:45:49.740 good night
00:45:50.200 and keep
00:45:51.200 fighting for
00:45:51.760 freedom
00:45:52.100 and keep
00:45:54.440 that
00:45:54.560 very
00:45:55.200 good
00:45:56.540 and keep
00:45:57.880 happy
00:45:58.320 good
00:46:01.120 amazing
00:46:03.260 because
00:46:04.880 You