Rebel News Podcast - “Serial slanderers” SPLC apologize, pay $3M+ after being sued — But is The Rebel their next target？

00:00:00.000 Tonight, the most amazing thing just happened, an alt-left extremist group made an apology

00:00:04.900 and a $3 million payout. It's June 19th and you're watching The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:15.380 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:19.180 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:22.900 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.

00:00:25.860 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so. 0.97

00:00:36.580 The mass rape by Pakistani Muslim men of indigenous British teenage girls, in fact girls as young as 11, 0.76

00:00:45.060 has been going on for more than a decade in the UK. 0.81

00:00:48.200 It was detected almost immediately, by the way, by doctors, by social workers, by policemen, by politicians.

00:00:52.840 It was detected immediately, but it was covered up for years by all of those officials for fear of being called racist.

00:01:00.580 It's not an opinion, that's a fact, as documented in the official inquiry into the rape of 1,400 young British girls in the small city of Rotherham.

00:01:10.040 How can you rape 1,400 girls in one small city again and again and not hear a peep about it in official circles? 0.94

00:01:18.140 They weren't just raped once. It was systematic. It was on an industrial scale dozens of times. 0.96

00:01:24.580 How did that happen? 0.94

00:01:26.680 Because according to the official inquiry, everyone was afraid of being called a racist because the girls were white and the rapists were Muslims.

00:01:34.100 That's what they all said when they were asked why they were silent, the social workers, the doctors, the police.

00:01:39.320 Here's a Muslim reformer, a friend of Raheel Raza, named Majid Nawaz, talking about this last year on a British talk radio network called LBC.

00:01:52.360 I'm going to let this run for a couple of minutes because I want you to hear him say it and get to know him a little bit. Take a look.

00:01:57.660 Why are we still, despite the years of evidence mounting up on this issue, why are we still so uncomfortable talking about this issue and accepting the fact that there is a hugely disproportionate number of British South Asian Muslim men involved in what can only be described as a despicable crime? 1.00

00:02:19.900 The fact is that since 2011, these sorts of crimes have occurred in cities up and down the country.

00:02:26.920 They are spreading. They have occurred in Rochdale, Rotherham, Oxford, Telford, Leeds, Birmingham, Norwich, Burnley, High Wycombe, Leicester, Dewsbury, Middlesbrough, Peterborough, Bristol, Halifax and Newcastle.

00:02:41.320 And in only two of those cases I've just listed from all of those cities were the men not of British South Asian Muslim heritage.

00:02:50.700 All of the victims in all of those cities that I just listed, the list was very long.

00:02:56.100 All of the victims except three were white teenage girls.

00:03:02.300 And so the fact that this pattern, that the fact that 84 percent of these cases involve British South Asian Muslim men must beg the question, why?

00:03:13.360 Wow, that guy, Majid Nawaz, actually runs a Muslim organization called the Quilliam Foundation, named after the first British Muslim whose last name is Quilliam.

00:03:25.200 Nawaz says he's against all sorts of extremism.

00:03:27.600 And I think I believe him.

00:03:29.820 Here he is working with Tommy Robinson for a while after Tommy left the EDL, the English Defense League.

00:03:36.980 And they've had some disagreements for sure, but they both have overlapping goals and do to this day.

00:03:42.760 It's sort of powerful, right?

00:03:44.740 Because Nawaz himself is a Muslim, so he can say things that Tommy can't say, that white journalists or politicians can't say.

00:03:52.780 In fact, the prosecutor of the Rotherham rapes, 1,400 girls, the prosecutor was a Pakistani Muslim prosecutor. 0.53

00:04:01.600 He had to be, or he'd surely have been called a racist too.

00:04:06.600 So that was last year.

00:04:08.180 And this year, a few days after Tommy Robinson was arrested outside a court in Leeds for a rape gang trial, Nawaz went on the radio again to talk about it again.

00:04:18.120 Now listen, again, I'm going to play you a few minutes, about three, four minutes here, because I want you to get to know Nawaz a little bit, okay?

00:04:24.520 Take a look.

00:04:25.380 For too long in this country, we, media, the establishment, society, the chattering classes, the liberal elite, whatever term you want to use, 0.99

00:04:35.600 have ignored the issue of grooming gangs, of young, vulnerable teenage girls who have been victimised, drugged and raped and abused.

00:04:46.040 Whether it's the Rotherham case or all the other cases that were replicated across the country,

00:04:50.620 it is both the conclusion of the prosecutor in the Rotherham case, British, Pakistani, Muslim, Nazir, Afzal,

00:04:56.920 or indeed the official inquiry into why it took so long for these young, vulnerable, underage girls to get justice,

00:05:05.320 both of those concluded that fears of racism prevented us from coming to the defence of vulnerable, underage girls.

00:05:13.200 Fears of racism meaning that the state was scared that it would be accused of being racist

00:05:19.960 if it rightly arrested and prosecuted British, Pakistani, largely British, Pakistani, Muslim men

00:05:27.280 in their abuse of underage white teenage girls.

00:05:33.060 And so from fear of appearing racist, there was a silence across the country

00:05:40.340 as multiple cases of grooming gangs emerged up and down the country,

00:05:45.140 as evidenced now due to multiple prosecutions, successful prosecutions,

00:05:50.780 but sadly and unfortunately too late.

00:05:53.080 If we hadn't all been silent, if we had all addressed this issue head on when it needed to be addressed,

00:06:00.360 when it was time to address it,

00:06:02.940 then the void would not have emerged for the populist agitators to fill that gap

00:06:08.700 and become popular, actually, as a result of addressing what is a legitimate issue.

00:06:14.600 They ended up hijacking what should have been the concern of every right-minded citizen in this country.

00:06:22.320 And unfortunately, it takes a bit of courage to address something

00:06:27.000 that people will hurl abuse at you for talking about.

00:06:30.880 I know on this show, on my own show on the weekends,

00:06:34.040 I've tried to book certain MPs to come on and address the issue of grooming gangs

00:06:38.880 and on multiple times they've had to back away from fear of the backlash.

00:06:43.220 We recall Sarah Champion, who in the Labour Party attempted to address this

00:06:48.600 and lost her position in the front bench as a result. 0.62

00:06:51.800 There have been multiple cases now, and it's beyond any level of doubt

00:06:55.920 that there's a disproportionate number of British Muslims involved in grooming gangs 0.73

00:07:00.660 against underage white girls.

00:07:02.840 And to say that is to report on the facts.

00:07:07.000 It's not to be racist.

00:07:08.840 And if we're backing away from this conversation,

00:07:11.360 then all we're doing is leaving the ground far open

00:07:14.940 in what is a legitimate issue that requires addressing.

00:07:18.400 We're leaving the ground for the populist to hijack that legitimate issue 0.98

00:07:22.180 and make it their own for their own nefarious purposes.

00:07:25.800 And that's precisely what's been going on.

00:07:30.080 And it's in that regard that what I'm saying here is I just wish,

00:07:34.880 I wish that those young girls had seen justice served for them

00:07:41.440 as fast as the judge served Tommy Robinson justice in this case.

00:07:46.700 Because in this case, it's very easy for us to pick on the bogeyman.

00:07:49.900 But actually, the truth is that our silence over decades in this country

00:07:54.680 is the real bogeyman.

00:07:56.020 And that's the real thing we should despise,

00:07:57.880 our own cowardice in the face of grooming of young girls up and down this country

00:08:02.080 and our conspiracy of silence.

00:08:04.600 All right.

00:08:04.880 So this guy, Majid Nawaz, he's effective, isn't he?

00:08:07.740 He looks good.

00:08:08.860 He sounds good.

00:08:10.120 He has a big platform.

00:08:11.140 I mean, LBC is a big network.

00:08:13.100 He's polite company, though.

00:08:14.560 He hangs out with Tommy.

00:08:15.840 And Tommy's a little rough around the edges,

00:08:17.800 but he hangs out with more mainstream people.

00:08:19.900 Two fancy people, too.

00:08:21.620 The other week, when our friend Jordan Peterson was in the UK,

00:08:25.140 he went on Nawaz's radio show.

00:08:26.860 He's a mainstream guy, Nawaz.

00:08:29.600 So what do you do?

00:08:31.480 I mean, if you're a leftist who loves political correctness,

00:08:33.680 who doesn't want people to talk about Muslims or Pakistan or immigration 0.98

00:08:37.020 or Tommy Robinson or rape gangs, 0.98

00:08:38.760 but your only weapon is gone,

00:08:40.140 the weapon that silenced all of Rotherham's establishment,

00:08:42.200 the weapon of calling someone racist or Islamophobic,

00:08:44.440 that weapon doesn't work on Majid Nawaz, does it?

00:08:47.980 So what can you do to stop him?

00:08:51.320 I mean, just look at the guy.

00:08:52.320 He's just talking as if he's a free man in a free country.

00:08:55.840 And you're some leftist liberal white dude.

00:08:57.520 How do you scare him into being quiet? 0.86

00:09:00.980 Well, you just smear him anyways.

00:09:02.360 And so a mighty alt-left troll factory called the Southern Poverty Law Center

00:09:09.820 issued their own liberal fatwa against Majid Nawaz

00:09:15.520 and against the great Ayaan Hirsi Ali,

00:09:18.180 calling them anti-Muslim extremists.

00:09:20.240 They literally equated these two with, what, neo-Nazis or something? 0.65

00:09:24.320 It was a smear.

00:09:25.640 They put it in their Southern Poverty Law Center's field guide

00:09:28.560 to anti-Muslim extremists, a field guide.

00:09:30.740 It's in, if you see these people in the wild,

00:09:33.460 don't approach them.

00:09:34.780 They're dangerous.

00:09:35.920 Seriously.

00:09:36.660 Majid Nawaz, who runs a Muslim NGO,

00:09:40.260 named after the first Muslim in Britain.

00:09:43.560 I mean, their website's motto is literally

00:09:45.320 promoting pluralism and inspiring change.

00:09:48.940 And look at that underneath it.

00:09:49.800 The world's first counter-extremism organization.

00:09:53.820 I mean, half the people they work with are Muslim, of course.

00:09:55.820 The SPLC, I mean, look at that name,

00:09:58.040 Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:10:00.600 They were set up about half a century ago

00:10:02.240 to fight for the rights of poor blacks in the U.S. South,

00:10:04.720 but now they're smearing a Muslim reformer in the U.K.

00:10:09.000 Well, yeah, because they've been colonized,

00:10:11.420 the SPLC, by the alt-left, and it pays big time.

00:10:15.160 Their financial endowment at the SPLC

00:10:17.060 is now about $400 million U.S.

00:10:19.920 You make a lot of money demonizing conservatives

00:10:22.340 from big donors.

00:10:23.460 I mean, if you were built 50 years ago

00:10:26.860 to fight the KKK and Jim Crow laws in the South,

00:10:30.440 but there is no more KKK or Jim Crow laws to speak of,

00:10:34.500 you might have to find a new line of work.

00:10:36.680 But that's too much work.

00:10:39.000 So now they demonize anyone concerned about Islam,

00:10:43.380 including Majid Nawaz.

00:10:45.760 $400 million is a lot of smearing and suing,

00:10:49.220 but it gets worse.

00:10:49.960 Facebook and Amazon and Google and YouTube and Twitter,

00:10:55.260 they have all outsourced their censorship in part to the SPLC.

00:11:01.580 The SPLC decide who gets banned and who doesn't,

00:11:06.360 who gets kicked off Twitter or Facebook and who doesn't.

00:11:09.660 How many times have they done this?

00:11:12.220 That's the thing about corporate censorship like this,

00:11:13.980 you never know.

00:11:15.500 Unlike government censorship,

00:11:16.620 where at least there is a notice or a warning or an explanation or a trial or an appeal,

00:11:20.760 Silicon Valley censorship just happens.

00:11:22.600 Have they banned 10 people?

00:11:24.020 Or 10,000 people?

00:11:25.800 Or 10 million people?

00:11:27.680 And on what basis?

00:11:29.660 Well, the same basis that they slandered Majid Nawaz and I and her CLE.

00:11:33.580 But Majid Nawaz did something new.

00:11:36.520 He fought back.

00:11:37.580 He crowdfunded a lawsuit against the SPLC.

00:11:42.100 He asked people on the internet to chip in to pay for his lawyers.

00:11:45.060 And he really did it.

00:11:45.940 He really moved to sue them for slander,

00:11:49.080 for claiming he was an anti-Muslim bigot,

00:11:50.980 for smearing him everywhere and anywhere,

00:11:53.460 and no doubt the countless secret actions they were taking against him

00:11:56.880 that they didn't make public.

00:11:59.140 Now, I saw this and I thought,

00:12:01.060 well, good luck to him.

00:12:02.000 I mean, the SPLC,

00:12:03.400 they have close to half a billion dollars

00:12:05.400 and they're run by lawyers, basically.

00:12:08.340 They can fight anyone forever.

00:12:11.020 Just bury them in costs and legal appeals

00:12:12.940 and they'd never blink.

00:12:14.780 I've never seen the SPLC blink.

00:12:17.820 But then they blinked.

00:12:19.260 Oh my God, did they blink.

00:12:21.160 Look at this video,

00:12:22.440 elocuted by the boss of the SPLC himself just yesterday.

00:12:26.600 Take a look at this.

00:12:28.220 The Southern Poverty Law Center was wrong

00:12:30.340 to include Majid Nawaz and the Quilliam Foundation

00:12:33.340 and our Field Guide to Anti-Muslim Extremists.

00:12:36.880 Since we published the Field Guide,

00:12:38.680 we have taken the time to do more research

00:12:40.740 and have consulted with human rights advocates we respect.

00:12:44.600 We've found that Mr. Nawaz and Quilliam

00:12:46.720 have made valuable and important contributions to public discourse,

00:12:50.840 including by promoting pluralism

00:12:52.740 and condemning both anti-Muslim bigotry and Islamist extremism.

00:12:57.560 Although we may have our differences

00:12:59.300 with some of the positions that Mr. Nawaz and Quilliam have taken,

00:13:02.820 they are most certainly not anti-Muslim extremists.

00:13:06.680 We would like to extend our sincerest apologies

00:13:09.040 to Mr. Nawaz, Quilliam, and our readers for the era.

00:13:12.340 And we wish Mr. Nawaz and Quilliam all the best.

00:13:15.520 Oh, yeah.

00:13:16.600 And they paid Majid Nawaz more than $3 million U.S. for his trouble.

00:13:23.300 $3 million.

00:13:24.140 That is a staggering sum to be awarded at trial.

00:13:28.420 But to pay that out as a preference to going to trial,

00:13:30.960 what was the SPLC afraid of?

00:13:32.720 I mean, what did they do in secret that would come out in public?

00:13:36.880 What would be revealed by the lawsuit?

00:13:38.540 Of course, what they did in public was damaging to Nawaz.

00:13:42.340 But to pay $3 million for that?

00:13:45.460 I think that the SPLC wasn't just paying to repair his reputation,

00:13:49.120 but to keep their own reputation intact.

00:13:51.500 I can only imagine what they were afraid would come out in court about their malice

00:13:55.440 or who's really pulling the strings in their decisions of who to hate and who not to hate.

00:13:59.580 I think they were afraid of their records being made public.

00:14:02.080 And the surrender was so fast.

00:14:04.120 So fast.

00:14:05.200 It's great.

00:14:05.960 And now I see that I and her CLE is thinking of suing, too.

00:14:08.940 She absolutely should, of course.

00:14:11.160 And she should either take her $3 million or press on to see what documents will be revealed,

00:14:16.820 what internal communications and decisions have been made.

00:14:20.760 See the emails, the minutes of their private meetings.

00:14:24.440 The SPLC are professional serial slanderers.

00:14:27.820 It's not just that, but they do it as a business.

00:14:29.580 They receive support from the organizations that ask them to censor,

00:14:32.640 especially in Silicon Valley.

00:14:33.960 It's a very profitable business, isn't it?

00:14:36.060 But they're planting their slanders around the world, extremely damaging.

00:14:40.440 And so they themselves, if ever taken the task,

00:14:43.500 could pay out huge damages to those they've smeared.

00:14:46.280 There must be a hundred Majid Nawazes out there. 0.99

00:14:49.300 Maybe not all of them as media-friendly as him, but surely a dozen of them are.

00:14:53.080 But look, look at this.

00:14:55.060 Look at who has just set up a Canadian branch plant.

00:14:58.520 The SPLC has given a grant to a Canadian colony run by notorious hucksters, 1.00

00:15:05.720 Evan Balgord and Bernie Farber, called the Canadian Anti-Hate Network.

00:15:10.600 It's funny because they sure hate a lot of people themselves,

00:15:14.080 namely conservatives who disagree with them, like us here at The Rebel and our viewers.

00:15:17.960 In fact, let me quote from this story.

00:15:19.380 I went to the Rebel Media Conference.

00:15:23.160 The anti-Islamophobia M-103 motion was the theme.

00:15:26.300 The crowd was over a thousand people, and there were strong emotions in that crowd.

00:15:29.640 At one point, one of the speakers encouraged people in the crowd to stand up,

00:15:32.560 pointed the journalist on the edge, and shout fake news at us.

00:15:35.940 That was the first time I'd seen that happen in Canada.

00:15:40.360 Yeah, Evan, that's called dissent.

00:15:43.460 It's called disagreeing.

00:15:44.920 It's legal in Canada still.

00:15:47.020 Well, Evan Balgord has made a name for himself online,

00:15:51.160 consorting with violent Antifa types,

00:15:53.480 and Bernie Farber is the chief advocate of censorship in Canada. 1.00

00:15:57.120 They're both fools. 0.99

00:15:58.480 Again, the two will make money off their scandal-mongering, won't they? 1.00

00:16:02.000 But maybe the answer up here

00:16:03.540 is the answer that Majin Noa has found out over there. 1.00

00:16:08.380 Sue the bastards. 1.00

00:16:09.380 Make them back up every allegation. 1.00

00:16:12.020 Make them justify every slander,

00:16:14.060 especially in light of their notorious malice.

00:16:17.360 I noticed just this weekend that Evan Balgord signed up

00:16:20.080 as a premium member of The Rebel.

00:16:22.260 Hello, Evan, you foreign-funded censor.

00:16:26.240 The world now knows that you work for a corrupt organization 0.91

00:16:30.400 that calls anyone they disagree with racist,

00:16:33.720 just for fun and profit. 0.99

00:16:35.720 We know you're liars. 0.99

00:16:37.060 Your U.S. master just admitted to being liars, 0.98

00:16:41.420 and they just paid $3 million in the process.

00:16:46.140 We won't be reluctant to sue you for your smears either,

00:16:49.940 and we'll do our best to encourage other conservatives

00:16:52.400 to stand up to the slanders of the alt-left,

00:16:55.820 especially those who would bring disreputable foreign tactics to Canada.

00:17:00.700 Stay with us for more.

00:17:19.100 Welcome back.

00:17:20.000 Well, every year, the government of Iran,

00:17:23.040 which is persona non grata in Canada, by the way,

00:17:26.120 their extremely bad behavior,

00:17:28.000 their pro-terrorist behavior,

00:17:29.640 their domestic abuses against their own citizens and our citizens, 0.65

00:17:33.480 has really cut ties between our two countries.

00:17:36.240 That hasn't stopped Iran from messing around 1.00

00:17:39.540 in Canada's political landscape,

00:17:41.360 and one of their flagship provocations every year,

00:17:46.080 they call it Al-Quds Day.

00:17:47.780 It's conceived by Iran. 0.80

00:17:49.760 It's financed and organized by Iranian agents,

00:17:52.360 and it's basically an anti-Israel, anti-Semitic festival.

00:17:56.940 In Toronto and in cities around the world,

00:18:00.060 London and England, they have a very big one.

00:18:03.100 What's so gross about the one in Toronto 0.83

00:18:05.060 is not just their bald-faced anti-Semitism, 0.67

00:18:07.360 but the fact that they like to have it on the grounds

00:18:10.260 of the government legislature.

00:18:12.580 Of course, they don't even have a permit,

00:18:14.560 but the fact that it would be like an alt-right KKK rally 0.99

00:18:19.440 calling for death to the Jews, 1.00

00:18:20.840 but because they're Iranian, 1.00

00:18:24.580 no one really much seems to care.

00:18:27.100 No one other than our friend Candace Malcolm,

00:18:29.660 who has written an outstanding article on the subject

00:18:32.400 and brings with her some shocking news

00:18:34.400 that one of the keynote speakers

00:18:36.680 at this year's Al-Quds rally,

00:18:39.340 who called for the eradication 0.97

00:18:41.100 of his Jewish enemies in Israel, 0.80

00:18:44.300 he actually got a summer jobs grant

00:18:46.340 from Justin Trudeau,

00:18:47.520 and joining us now via Skype

00:18:48.620 is the woman who broke this exclusive scoop,

00:18:51.200 our friend Candace Malcolm.

00:18:52.260 Candace, again, another great scoop by you.

00:18:55.300 I'm so proud of your work in the Toronto Sun,

00:18:57.780 and I'm so glad you have that forum.

00:19:00.080 Tell us a little bit about Sheik Shafiq Huda,

00:19:04.520 and who's financing him?

00:19:08.160 Well, you know, this is just,

00:19:10.240 you almost can't make this stuff up, Ezra.

00:19:12.280 All the controversy that's surrounded

00:19:14.000 this Canada Summer Jobs Grant,

00:19:15.940 1,600 Christian-based organizations

00:19:18.100 been denied funding by the Trudeau government,

00:19:20.560 even organizations that aren't political

00:19:22.420 or don't do advocacy,

00:19:24.140 but because of their beliefs,

00:19:25.700 their personal, fundamental, moral beliefs,

00:19:28.220 the Trudeau government has denied them

00:19:29.800 from this grant.

00:19:31.000 It's become a huge controversy,

00:19:32.680 and yet this organization,

00:19:34.980 this Islamic organization,

00:19:36.120 based out of Kitchener, Ontario, 0.62

00:19:38.360 whose Sheik gave a despicable speech 0.99

00:19:40.540 at Al-Quds Day, the rally that you were talking about, 0.97

00:19:43.300 calling for the eradication of Israel and Jews, 1.00

00:19:46.840 you know, his organization qualified 0.97

00:19:48.800 and received federal funding

00:19:50.520 from the Trudeau government

00:19:51.500 under this Canada Jobs Grant in 2018.

00:19:54.540 This organization and this Sheik is now, 1.00

00:19:57.440 there's been complaints filed about him

00:20:00.260 by both Benay Birth,

00:20:02.080 a human rights organization,

00:20:03.600 and an accusation made by a Quebec MP

00:20:05.680 that he has broken the criminal code.

00:20:08.580 So, you know, such a controversial group,

00:20:10.540 such a hateful individual,

00:20:12.440 and yet this is where

00:20:13.280 our Canadian taxpayer dollars are going.

00:20:15.800 Yeah.

00:20:16.260 If people think you're exaggerating,

00:20:17.820 we have a 50-second clip

00:20:19.620 of Sheik Shafiq Huda,

00:20:22.400 and he's not just,

00:20:23.480 he's not a foreigner,

00:20:24.400 like, I mean,

00:20:24.840 I think he was born in a foreign country,

00:20:26.120 but he's in Canada.

00:20:27.320 He runs this organization

00:20:30.020 in the Islamic Humanitarian Service of Kitchener,

00:20:32.880 so he's not some nobody off the street,

00:20:35.500 and he has a bit of a profile,

00:20:38.360 enough to get a government grant from the liberals.

00:20:41.120 Let's play 50 seconds,

00:20:42.420 and he uses code words.

00:20:43.880 He says, 0.99

00:20:44.600 eradicate the Zionists, 1.00

00:20:46.360 eradicate Israel. 0.99

00:20:47.600 I don't think he ever comes right out

00:20:49.960 and says, 1.00

00:20:50.720 kill the Jews. 1.00

00:20:51.700 I think he's savvier than that. 1.00

00:20:53.780 Let's let him speak for himself.

00:20:55.420 Here's 50 seconds from a larger speech.

00:20:57.660 I am praying for a day

00:20:59.860 to come in our lifetime

00:21:02.020 where we won't need the Al-Quds rally 0.98

00:21:04.700 because Palestine will be free,

00:21:07.060 oppression will be eradicated,

00:21:09.000 injustice will end.

00:21:10.380 That's the day we pray for

00:21:11.460 so we don't have to be every Saturday

00:21:13.720 in the holy month of Ramadan.

00:21:15.340 This is our prayer to the Almighty Creator,

00:21:17.480 whether you call Him God or Allah,

00:21:19.480 you call Him Jehovah,

00:21:20.420 whatever name you want to call Him,

00:21:21.980 we pray to the Creator and to the Almighty.

00:21:24.200 A day will come

00:21:25.140 when we will see justice throughout the world,

00:21:27.780 the eradication of the unjust powers 0.91

00:21:29.660 such as the American Empire, 0.80

00:21:31.720 such as the Israelis and Zionists.

00:21:33.940 And the same way

00:21:34.960 that we saw the British Empire wither away,

00:21:37.980 the sun never set on it,

00:21:39.380 the sun sets on it,

00:21:40.460 we will see a day coming, inshallah,

00:21:42.360 God willing,

00:21:43.040 in our lifetime

00:21:43.740 where this empire,

00:21:45.440 the Zionist Empire,

00:21:46.740 the American Empire

00:21:47.740 will be down in the dustbins of history,

00:21:50.680 inshallah, God willing.

00:21:52.300 I watched the whole clip.

00:21:53.460 I think he also talks about body bags

00:21:55.880 of Israeli soldiers

00:21:58.160 getting sent back

00:21:59.240 of gas and body bags.

00:22:00.500 I have to tell you, Candace,

00:22:01.820 I find him hateful, obviously,

00:22:04.200 but I don't support the Menebris

00:22:05.820 call for a hate crimes prosecution

00:22:08.000 against him.

00:22:08.700 I don't really believe

00:22:09.620 in word policing,

00:22:11.080 even for bigots like this.

00:22:12.540 I think we should screen people

00:22:14.900 when they come to Canada

00:22:16.220 to make sure we're not importing hatred

00:22:17.980 from Iranian agents.

00:22:20.700 I think we have to denounce people like this,

00:22:24.500 but I'm always nervous

00:22:25.620 about hate crime prosecution.

00:22:29.160 I don't think I support this guy.

00:22:30.400 You heard him.

00:22:31.220 He's for eradication.

00:22:32.560 But I think your report

00:22:33.860 gives us a bit of an opportunity

00:22:36.280 to do something

00:22:37.120 that we can all agree on,

00:22:39.000 even free speech purists,

00:22:40.480 and that's this.

00:22:41.260 And what do you think of this?

00:22:42.700 He took the money

00:22:43.800 from the liberal government.

00:22:45.900 He took the summer jobs grant

00:22:47.560 that was denied

00:22:48.720 to 1,600 Christian groups.

00:22:50.880 I think we can demand

00:22:52.600 that he pay that summer jobs grant

00:22:55.400 money back to Trudeau.

00:22:57.700 And I think we should have

00:22:59.780 a big to-do about it.

00:23:01.160 I think we should set up a petition,

00:23:03.120 show people what he says.

00:23:05.500 And I'm not saying

00:23:06.180 throw that man in prison. 0.98

00:23:07.500 I'm saying get our bloody 1.00

00:23:08.640 taxpayers' dollars back. 0.83

00:23:09.780 What do you think about that?

00:23:11.440 I think absolutely.

00:23:12.600 It's an excellent idea.

00:23:13.600 Canadians should put pressure

00:23:14.760 on this kind of individual.

00:23:16.220 You know, I think that

00:23:17.040 there's a difference

00:23:17.800 between hate speech

00:23:19.320 and incitement of violence,

00:23:20.820 which, you know,

00:23:21.380 this kind of seems borderline

00:23:22.860 in my own view.

00:23:24.080 But I do tend to agree

00:23:25.340 that the worst thing

00:23:26.060 you can do

00:23:26.560 with these kind of individuals

00:23:27.620 is expose

00:23:28.440 their hateful ideology

00:23:30.180 for everyone to see.

00:23:31.720 So, you know,

00:23:32.340 you watch that video,

00:23:33.320 you see an individual

00:23:34.560 is so hateful

00:23:35.360 as for someone

00:23:36.200 who's so ungrateful.

00:23:37.500 You know,

00:23:37.660 he's talking about

00:23:38.460 how he loathes

00:23:39.460 and hates the American Empire

00:23:40.680 and the British Empire.

00:23:41.860 Well, Canada is part

00:23:42.680 of that historic framework.

00:23:44.460 And so here he is

00:23:45.320 standing in a free country

00:23:46.460 in Canada,

00:23:47.360 taking advantage

00:23:48.060 of our freedom,

00:23:49.100 of our opportunity,

00:23:50.300 of our liberty,

00:23:50.680 and even of our taxpayer grants.

00:23:53.120 And at the same time,

00:23:54.620 you know,

00:23:54.900 calling for and praying

00:23:55.900 for the end of

00:23:57.200 basically Western civilization

00:23:59.080 as we know it.

00:24:00.380 You know, 1.00

00:24:00.880 what a hypocrite. 1.00

00:24:01.980 And I think that 1.00

00:24:02.620 if enough Canadians 0.97

00:24:03.680 raise this as a concern,

00:24:06.020 point out to the Trudeau government

00:24:07.220 that this is totally unacceptable,

00:24:09.020 yeah,

00:24:09.360 we could probably pressure

00:24:10.500 this individual,

00:24:11.320 this group,

00:24:12.900 you know,

00:24:13.380 return the money

00:24:14.200 or hopefully maybe next year

00:24:15.780 Trudeau will get rid

00:24:16.700 of this attestation

00:24:17.380 or change it

00:24:18.080 to limit these kind of groups

00:24:20.180 from being able to receive funding

00:24:21.780 in the first place.

00:24:22.700 Yeah.

00:24:22.920 Well, I mean,

00:24:23.600 that's the thing.

00:24:24.480 It's bad enough

00:24:25.080 what he's saying,

00:24:26.000 but the fact that

00:24:27.060 you and I pay taxes

00:24:28.660 and this money,

00:24:31.120 it doesn't go to your

00:24:31.940 Christian church

00:24:32.740 or your Salvation Army

00:24:33.880 or anything like that,

00:24:34.920 but our tax dollars

00:24:35.900 through Justin Trudeau

00:24:37.300 goes to this guy's organization.

00:24:40.260 Well, Candace,

00:24:40.860 we've set up a petition

00:24:42.500 at payitback.ca,

00:24:46.760 payitback.ca,

00:24:48.100 and I propose

00:24:49.360 that anyone

00:24:50.160 who disagrees

00:24:51.820 with the bigotry

00:24:53.200 of this Iranian agent,

00:24:54.480 and I'm calling him that

00:24:55.340 because this whole Al-Quds day 0.96

00:24:56.820 is an Iranian government

00:24:58.080 propaganda exercise

00:24:59.560 around the world.

00:25:00.260 And I tell you,

00:25:02.140 if he dared criticize

00:25:03.000 the Iranian government

00:25:03.900 in the same way,

00:25:04.680 he'd be thrown in prison,

00:25:05.620 by the way.

00:25:06.720 If people sign

00:25:07.980 payitback.ca,

00:25:09.140 I propose that we

00:25:10.060 give that petition

00:25:11.480 to this sheik 0.99

00:25:13.160 demanding he pay

00:25:14.540 the money back,

00:25:15.100 but we should also give it

00:25:16.060 to the labor minister,

00:25:17.700 Patty Hajdu, 0.72

00:25:18.720 the one who said no

00:25:20.060 to all these Christian churches,

00:25:22.500 Christian summer camps,

00:25:23.780 Christian food banks,

00:25:24.600 but paid this guy,

00:25:27.420 I think she has to show

00:25:28.860 some self-respect

00:25:29.680 and respect for taxpayers

00:25:30.580 and ask for the summer

00:25:31.680 jobs grant back,

00:25:32.760 and we have to show her

00:25:33.580 that thousands of Canadians

00:25:34.620 demand that.

00:25:35.540 So what do you think

00:25:36.240 of a petition

00:25:36.760 at payitback.ca

00:25:38.020 calling for the money

00:25:39.440 to be paid back?

00:25:40.200 That's the least

00:25:40.640 we can do, I think.

00:25:42.400 Yeah, I agree,

00:25:43.580 and I think pressuring

00:25:44.320 these kind of organizations,

00:25:45.520 pressuring, you know,

00:25:46.080 Justin Trudeau was asked

00:25:47.360 about this in the House

00:25:48.160 of Commons yesterday,

00:25:49.580 and, you know,

00:25:50.460 he kind of doubled down

00:25:51.460 on the whole concept

00:25:52.300 that there should be

00:25:53.080 some kind of a liberal

00:25:54.300 values test or attestation

00:25:56.100 in order to receive

00:25:57.320 these kind of fundings.

00:25:58.420 You know, I don't think

00:25:58.960 that these kind of funds

00:25:59.800 should really exist at all,

00:26:01.340 and if they are going to exist,

00:26:02.820 first of all,

00:26:03.320 they should be available

00:26:04.080 to everyone,

00:26:04.980 and if they're not going

00:26:05.700 to be available to someone,

00:26:06.920 it should be organizations

00:26:07.980 like this that promote hate,

00:26:09.760 that promote division,

00:26:10.960 that skew and warp history 0.89

00:26:13.460 and promote myths and lies.

00:26:16.640 I think it's shameful

00:26:17.600 that our money is going

00:26:18.520 to a group that's so hateful,

00:26:20.080 so anti-Canadian.

00:26:21.080 I would definitely support

00:26:22.780 that petition,

00:26:23.460 and I'll share it

00:26:24.140 through True North Initiative.

00:26:25.860 We'll get that out.

00:26:26.880 I want as many Canadians

00:26:27.820 as possible to sign

00:26:28.780 that petition to show,

00:26:30.480 you know,

00:26:31.000 the Trudeau liberal government

00:26:31.980 and this Islamic organization

00:26:33.520 that this kind of activity,

00:26:35.240 this kind of speech

00:26:36.060 is not welcome in Canada

00:26:38.000 and really should not be

00:26:39.040 receiving support

00:26:39.920 from taxpayers.

00:26:40.940 Yeah, I think that's

00:26:41.540 the least to me.

00:26:42.040 I won't go as far as

00:26:42.940 B'nai B'rith and call

00:26:43.620 for a criminal prosecution

00:26:44.660 to this guy.

00:26:45.320 I'm more of a free speech, Nick,

00:26:46.960 but I think every one of us

00:26:48.540 can agree this guy

00:26:50.480 should not be getting

00:26:51.740 our tax dollars.

00:26:52.580 Well, Candice, thank you.

00:26:53.880 Again, you break the news nationally

00:26:55.640 and it's such a pleasure to see

00:26:57.220 and all the media party

00:26:58.420 chases to catch up with you

00:26:59.960 or sometimes they even denounce you

00:27:01.680 for even breaking the news

00:27:03.000 because they don't want

00:27:03.540 to see the truth,

00:27:04.440 but you've done it again.

00:27:05.440 So congrats to you on the scoop

00:27:06.800 and I think our viewers

00:27:08.500 would love to join in

00:27:09.500 and go to payitback.ca.

00:27:12.280 Let's see if we can get

00:27:12.980 10,000 names.

00:27:14.020 I think we can get

00:27:14.720 10,000 names pretty easy,

00:27:16.300 maybe more when people

00:27:17.200 learn the facts about this.

00:27:19.120 I agree and, you know,

00:27:20.640 again, I encourage Canadians

00:27:21.740 to share this video

00:27:22.540 and to share the petition,

00:27:24.700 get people on board.

00:27:26.140 Let's show this government,

00:27:27.660 this organization,

00:27:28.820 that this kind of stuff

00:27:30.160 is just not welcome

00:27:30.920 in our country.

00:27:31.820 All right.

00:27:32.280 Well, congratulations to you

00:27:33.780 and now it's up to us, folks.

00:27:35.480 Let's sign this petition.

00:27:36.680 It's not even about

00:27:37.640 the amount of money.

00:27:38.660 I bet they only got

00:27:39.400 a few thousand bucks.

00:27:40.880 It's the symbol

00:27:42.540 that Canadian taxpayers

00:27:44.160 are paying for that bigotry.

00:27:47.200 I'm sure there's

00:27:47.600 no other word for it.

00:27:48.820 Go to payitback.ca

00:27:50.580 and we'll give you an update

00:27:51.360 on this in maybe a week or so.

00:27:53.100 All right.

00:27:53.580 Stay with us.

00:27:54.360 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:28:03.780 Well, for weeks,

00:28:08.720 there's been a staring contest

00:28:10.880 between Justin Trudeau

00:28:12.380 and Donald Trump

00:28:13.040 on the issue of tariffs in trade,

00:28:15.580 whether it's steel,

00:28:16.940 the auto sector or dairy.

00:28:18.980 Things seem to be in hand

00:28:20.420 until the G7 meeting in Quebec

00:28:23.000 where they went off the rails

00:28:24.540 through a misunderstanding

00:28:25.960 or a few careless comments

00:28:28.760 and tweets.

00:28:29.520 Oh, my God,

00:28:30.340 it looks terrifying.

00:28:31.960 Don't take it from me

00:28:32.820 from a political point of view.

00:28:34.220 Take it from two different

00:28:35.820 Canadian banks

00:28:36.840 that have run the numbers.

00:28:38.120 I have in front of me

00:28:38.960 a report from TD Bank

00:28:40.440 that says if this trade war

00:28:42.620 actually comes to pass,

00:28:44.720 160,000 Canadian jobs

00:28:48.480 would be in jeopardy.

00:28:50.560 The Scotiabank says

00:28:52.560 that such a trade war

00:28:53.520 would shrink Canada's GDP

00:28:55.960 by 1.8%.

00:28:58.360 We're talking about a recession.

00:29:01.220 Is this going to happen?

00:29:02.540 And can we survive?

00:29:04.560 These aren't just hyperbole,

00:29:06.120 hyperbolic questions.

00:29:07.160 They're real life now, I think.

00:29:08.920 Joining us now via Skype

00:29:09.860 to talk about this

00:29:10.560 is our friend Professor Ian Lee.

00:29:12.180 He's with the Sprott School of Business,

00:29:14.700 an associate professor

00:29:15.740 at Carleton University.

00:29:17.500 Professor Lee,

00:29:18.220 I'm sounding dramatic.

00:29:20.740 It's not me that's dramatic.

00:29:22.020 These numbers are terrifying.

00:29:23.880 There's also predictions

00:29:25.680 that our dollar will fall

00:29:27.100 into the 60-something cent range.

00:29:30.400 Tell me how bad it would be

00:29:31.500 if this Trump-Trudeau trade war

00:29:33.380 actually happened.

00:29:35.640 Excellent question.

00:29:36.940 Good to speak with you, Ezra.

00:29:39.000 There's two separate issues.

00:29:40.620 The issue is how likely

00:29:41.620 is it going to happen?

00:29:42.920 And if it did happen,

00:29:44.720 how bad will it be?

00:29:46.620 I'm actually of the view

00:29:48.440 that the consequences

00:29:49.780 are so bad

00:29:50.820 that it won't happen.

00:29:52.480 You know,

00:29:52.680 this is almost like

00:29:53.460 the logic of mutual assured destruction

00:29:55.400 back in the old days 0.52

00:29:57.620 between the United States

00:29:59.040 and the Soviet Union.

00:30:00.660 The consequences of nuclear war

00:30:02.420 were so awful to both sides.

00:30:04.020 The devastation of life

00:30:04.860 was so awful.

00:30:05.860 It ensured it didn't happen.

00:30:07.820 But in that instance,

00:30:09.320 there was a rough equivalence.

00:30:11.060 Both sides had enormous numbers

00:30:12.640 of nuclear warheads.

00:30:14.260 In this instance,

00:30:15.260 my analogy falls down.

00:30:18.120 And that falls down

00:30:19.100 because we don't have

00:30:20.840 lots and lots of nuclear warheads,

00:30:22.660 to continue my metaphor.

00:30:24.000 What I'm trying to say is

00:30:25.720 the United States

00:30:26.880 is 10 times bigger.

00:30:28.400 And people say,

00:30:28.940 oh, 10 times?

00:30:29.660 You know, that's that big.

00:30:31.000 Well, it's sort of like

00:30:32.000 a person who plays peewee hockey,

00:30:33.820 you know,

00:30:34.320 at the age of five or six,

00:30:36.300 saying,

00:30:36.740 I'm going to get into a fight

00:30:37.680 with an NHL

00:30:38.460 professional hockey player.

00:30:39.720 That's not a contest.

00:30:41.380 I mean,

00:30:41.700 it shouldn't even be allowed

00:30:42.940 to be child abuse

00:30:44.180 because the small child

00:30:46.020 would just be,

00:30:46.640 you know,

00:30:47.200 it would be horrible

00:30:48.320 what would happen to them

00:30:49.040 if they got in a fight

00:30:49.700 with a huge hockey player.

00:30:51.820 The numbers

00:30:52.960 in these two studies

00:30:54.080 are showing

00:30:55.140 A,

00:30:56.340 that we're

00:30:56.740 one-tenth

00:30:58.040 the size

00:30:58.940 of the United States.

00:31:00.460 They also show

00:31:01.540 the incredible dependence

00:31:03.080 of our economy

00:31:05.260 on the United States.

00:31:07.100 To put this

00:31:07.860 as bluntly as I can,

00:31:09.200 and I know it's very

00:31:09.840 politically incorrect

00:31:10.620 right now,

00:31:11.640 but we need

00:31:13.040 the United States

00:31:14.120 far,

00:31:15.300 far more

00:31:16.160 than the United States

00:31:17.460 needs Canada.

00:31:18.680 And I know it's,

00:31:19.600 you know,

00:31:19.700 where there's a lot

00:31:20.240 of people,

00:31:20.720 you know,

00:31:20.960 pounding their chest

00:31:21.780 and saying,

00:31:22.880 you know,

00:31:23.040 let's stand up 0.99

00:31:23.740 to that bully Donald Trump, 0.98

00:31:25.360 you know, 1.00

00:31:25.600 and poke him in the eye 0.98

00:31:26.620 because he's rude 0.98

00:31:27.860 and all those,

00:31:28.760 you know,

00:31:28.980 things.

00:31:30.460 My late mother,

00:31:31.540 who was a very,

00:31:32.300 very practical person,

00:31:33.340 never went to university,

00:31:34.320 grew up in depression,

00:31:35.220 Saskatchewan,

00:31:35.880 actually.

00:31:36.720 And she used to tell me

00:31:37.800 over and over and over

00:31:38.640 when I was a kid,

00:31:39.780 you know,

00:31:40.040 you don't cut off your nose

00:31:41.540 despite your face. 0.83

00:31:43.300 Yeah.

00:31:43.580 And if we get into

00:31:44.820 a trade war

00:31:45.480 with the United States,

00:31:46.380 we are truly

00:31:47.560 cutting off

00:31:48.580 our nose

00:31:49.680 despite our face

00:31:51.480 and we are going

00:31:52.140 to hurt ourselves.

00:31:53.420 We're not going

00:31:54.340 to hurt

00:31:54.740 the United States.

00:31:56.260 Yeah.

00:31:56.560 Well,

00:31:57.100 and there's,

00:31:57.620 those are the two

00:31:58.060 opposing forces.

00:31:59.180 Politically,

00:31:59.880 it's like catnip

00:32:01.000 to politicians,

00:32:02.000 especially those

00:32:02.540 on the left

00:32:03.080 to demonize Trump.

00:32:04.540 It's,

00:32:04.920 it's the easy thing.

00:32:06.800 Hollywood's behind it.

00:32:07.700 The media are generally

00:32:08.440 behind it.

00:32:09.500 Yes.

00:32:10.340 So you get applause

00:32:11.920 from certain quarters.

00:32:14.120 But,

00:32:14.620 so that's tempting

00:32:15.300 to a politician.

00:32:16.120 Applause and moral support

00:32:17.580 and maybe Saturday Night Live

00:32:19.220 will cheer for you.

00:32:20.220 But on the other hand,

00:32:21.340 that economic devastation,

00:32:23.360 here's what I think

00:32:24.860 is different about Trump

00:32:26.100 and you can love him

00:32:27.140 or hate him,

00:32:27.840 but I think,

00:32:29.160 Professor,

00:32:30.080 when he talks

00:32:31.680 about trade wars,

00:32:33.860 this is not something

00:32:35.000 he's just discovered

00:32:36.480 in the last year.

00:32:37.320 I've seen interviews

00:32:38.900 of Trump in the 80s

00:32:40.660 on the Oprah Winfrey show

00:32:42.340 talking about trade barriers.

00:32:45.240 So this isn't

00:32:46.220 some casual thing

00:32:47.480 he's trying out.

00:32:48.340 He's been thinking

00:32:49.000 about it for decades

00:32:50.000 and I see he just got tough

00:32:52.320 with Chinese tariffs

00:32:53.960 of an enormous scale.

00:32:56.220 Here's my,

00:32:56.760 here's my question.

00:32:59.080 People who think

00:33:00.160 Trump is bluffing

00:33:01.340 in a poker game

00:33:02.340 that he would never do it

00:33:03.960 because of,

00:33:04.740 you know,

00:33:04.940 like you say,

00:33:05.440 the mutually assured destruction.

00:33:07.600 Trump,

00:33:07.860 not only do I not think

00:33:10.120 he's bluffing on Canada,

00:33:11.800 we see he's not bluffing

00:33:13.920 with mighty China.

00:33:15.980 And so here's my question.

00:33:18.240 I'm sorry,

00:33:18.600 I'm just giving you

00:33:20.160 some of my thoughts,

00:33:20.960 but my question is,

00:33:21.820 do you think there are

00:33:23.000 cooler heads in Ottawa

00:33:24.360 who would say,

00:33:25.800 whatever you think of Trump,

00:33:27.560 this man has ice

00:33:29.720 in his veins on tariffs

00:33:31.100 and if he's willing

00:33:32.100 to fight China,

00:33:32.840 he'll fight us too?

00:33:35.480 Ezra,

00:33:36.000 I completely agree.

00:33:37.200 I've been saying this

00:33:37.900 for two years.

00:33:39.220 Just let me deal

00:33:39.920 quickly with your first point.

00:33:42.260 Trump did not just suddenly

00:33:43.800 wake up one morning,

00:33:45.120 you know,

00:33:45.760 and say,

00:33:46.600 gee whiz, 0.98

00:33:47.020 I think I'm going to start,

00:33:48.420 you know,

00:33:49.060 yelling and bluffing,

00:33:50.320 blustering the neighbors

00:33:51.280 over trade.

00:33:52.680 I went back and read

00:33:54.200 just after he became

00:33:55.800 the candidate

00:33:56.280 for the Republican Party.

00:33:57.400 I read every economic speech

00:33:59.040 that he had given

00:34:00.160 to that point

00:34:01.060 and I've read

00:34:01.800 every economic speech

00:34:02.720 he's given since

00:34:03.460 that it could be classified

00:34:04.720 as a speech

00:34:05.500 on trade and investment.

00:34:07.380 This is his issue.

00:34:10.220 This,

00:34:10.580 I believe it's

00:34:11.620 not so much immigration.

00:34:13.240 I'm not suggesting

00:34:15.340 immigration is not important. 0.96

00:34:16.680 What I'm saying is

00:34:17.480 the trade file,

00:34:19.380 this sense that

00:34:20.220 America has been

00:34:21.540 taken advantage of

00:34:22.800 by its allies

00:34:25.640 and its enemies

00:34:26.800 for the last

00:34:27.940 30,

00:34:28.560 40,

00:34:29.000 50 years

00:34:29.660 is deep

00:34:30.760 in Donald Trump's

00:34:32.060 psyche.

00:34:32.960 Point one.

00:34:33.600 Point two,

00:34:34.320 this is not

00:34:35.400 all by itself

00:34:36.580 in Donald Trump's

00:34:37.500 head.

00:34:38.040 There are large

00:34:39.080 numbers of Americans.

00:34:40.060 I have traveled

00:34:40.940 on road trips

00:34:41.680 across many states

00:34:42.700 as recently

00:34:43.520 as last summer

00:34:44.580 to the Rock and Roll

00:34:45.280 Hall of Fame,

00:34:46.120 went to Canton,

00:34:46.940 Ohio,

00:34:47.700 and went to

00:34:48.120 Cleveland,

00:34:48.620 Ohio,

00:34:49.440 went across

00:34:50.120 upstate New York

00:34:51.560 and upstate

00:34:52.660 Pennsylvania,

00:34:54.160 and we drive down

00:34:55.260 every year

00:34:55.800 to Hilton Head

00:34:56.540 and we've spoken

00:34:58.040 to people

00:34:58.460 in rural South Carolina,

00:34:59.780 rural North Carolina.

00:35:00.560 If you get outside

00:35:02.180 the big cities,

00:35:03.220 the San Francisco's,

00:35:04.220 the Chicago's,

00:35:04.940 the New York's,

00:35:05.580 where the very

00:35:06.280 well-educated

00:35:07.140 and high-income

00:35:07.920 wealthy

00:35:08.580 and upper-middle

00:35:09.340 class and elites

00:35:10.100 live,

00:35:10.600 they're doing fine.

00:35:12.040 But you get out

00:35:12.720 to the small towns,

00:35:13.800 the rural,

00:35:14.420 the semi-rural,

00:35:15.460 the burbs,

00:35:16.200 the exurbs,

00:35:17.240 and it's a completely

00:35:18.400 different America.

00:35:19.720 And he resonates

00:35:20.520 because they feel

00:35:21.660 that they have been

00:35:22.920 exploited,

00:35:23.760 that they have been

00:35:24.640 taken advantage of.

00:35:25.960 And so Trump

00:35:26.660 is absolutely

00:35:27.580 sincere and real

00:35:29.000 on this,

00:35:29.600 whether we hate him

00:35:30.640 or not,

00:35:31.380 whether we like him

00:35:32.320 or not.

00:35:32.960 He is absolutely authentic.

00:35:34.960 He is going to deliver

00:35:36.080 on this because he is

00:35:37.420 convinced this is going

00:35:38.400 to get,

00:35:39.020 he's going to retain

00:35:39.940 control of the Congress,

00:35:42.340 of the U.S. House

00:35:43.160 this fall,

00:35:43.800 and ensure his

00:35:44.920 re-election in 2020.

00:35:46.640 So yes,

00:35:47.100 he has ice in his veins.

00:35:48.420 The second part

00:35:49.040 of your question,

00:35:49.580 very quickly,

00:35:50.620 Ezra,

00:35:51.400 are there people

00:35:52.180 in the Ottawa bubble,

00:35:53.280 and I'm obviously

00:35:53.980 being a bit,

00:35:54.860 you know,

00:35:55.340 sarcastic when I say that,

00:35:56.860 are there people

00:35:57.500 in the Ottawa bubble

00:35:58.180 who understand that?

00:35:59.320 I'm not sure,

00:36:00.340 and I've lived here

00:36:00.920 all my life,

00:36:02.060 but, you know,

00:36:02.900 there's such a contempt

00:36:04.900 towards and dislike

00:36:06.560 towards Trump

00:36:08.020 that I think

00:36:09.060 it has clouded

00:36:09.900 the thinking

00:36:10.420 of people,

00:36:11.420 many people in Ottawa.

00:36:13.140 Some say,

00:36:13.880 oh,

00:36:14.000 we'll stand up

00:36:14.540 to the bully

00:36:14.960 not having any sense

00:36:16.120 that we don't have

00:36:16.820 the capacity

00:36:17.540 to stand up

00:36:18.620 to an economy

00:36:19.280 that's 10 times larger.

00:36:20.820 Then there's others

00:36:21.560 who don't think

00:36:22.140 that Trump is going

00:36:22.800 to do it,

00:36:23.300 that he's just bluffing.

00:36:24.660 And so we've

00:36:25.360 backed ourselves

00:36:26.240 into a corner.

00:36:27.280 I believe that Mr. Trudeau,

00:36:29.000 went into

00:36:29.860 the NAFTA negotiations

00:36:30.880 and Ms. Freeland

00:36:31.880 making a huge

00:36:33.480 strategic mistake.

00:36:35.380 They went in saying,

00:36:36.760 we're going to protect

00:36:37.820 those six or seven

00:36:38.760 or eight protected industries.

00:36:40.440 We're going to defend

00:36:41.320 them to the death.

00:36:42.320 Instead of going in

00:36:43.620 and saying,

00:36:44.540 we must have access

00:36:47.020 for all 36 million Canadians

00:36:48.680 to the totality

00:36:50.320 of the American economy

00:36:51.820 without tariffs

00:36:53.440 and with the dispute mechanism

00:36:55.220 and to achieve that end,

00:36:58.280 everything is on the table.

00:37:00.320 Telecom,

00:37:00.920 Canadian telecom,

00:37:02.300 dairy,

00:37:02.840 supply management,

00:37:04.200 banking,

00:37:05.040 airlines,

00:37:05.720 et cetera.

00:37:06.500 Instead,

00:37:07.060 they didn't.

00:37:07.820 They went in

00:37:08.340 and said,

00:37:08.720 we're going to stand up

00:37:09.480 to the bully

00:37:09.940 and we're going to keep

00:37:10.720 protecting our protected industries.

00:37:12.620 I think that this was

00:37:13.700 an enormous strategic mistake.

00:37:15.820 Yeah.

00:37:15.920 And there are all those

00:37:17.220 strange obsessions

00:37:19.240 with gender analysis

00:37:22.100 and global warming, 0.62

00:37:24.520 things that,

00:37:25.340 you know,

00:37:25.560 I'm against them substantively,

00:37:27.280 but even from a

00:37:27.960 prosperous point of view,

00:37:29.600 put them in another treaty,

00:37:30.720 not a trade treaty.

00:37:31.580 You want to talk about gender?

00:37:33.680 What's that doing in an AFTRA? 1.00

00:37:35.080 Let me ask you,

00:37:35.760 here's what scares me.

00:37:38.480 Detroit,

00:37:39.880 Michigan,

00:37:40.380 Ohio,

00:37:40.800 these places you mentioned,

00:37:42.780 they're hurting.

00:37:44.240 They were called the Rust Belt

00:37:45.280 for so long,

00:37:46.100 as in it used to be

00:37:47.040 the steel belt,

00:37:47.600 but it got worn out

00:37:48.640 and obsolete.

00:37:49.680 Trump has said,

00:37:50.380 I'm bringing the factories back.

00:37:52.280 He was focused with Mexico, 0.98

00:37:53.720 but now we're on his radar screen

00:37:55.580 and that's bad,

00:37:56.160 I think.

00:37:57.160 I understand that Canada

00:37:58.640 exports many more cars

00:38:00.440 to the States

00:38:00.980 than we import.

00:38:02.940 If Ontario hates Trump,

00:38:04.700 and I don't think

00:38:05.220 all Ontarians do,

00:38:06.140 but the leadership does,

00:38:07.880 what does Trump care?

00:38:10.060 He doesn't have any votes

00:38:10.840 in Ontario.

00:38:11.520 If he moves some of those

00:38:12.540 big three factories

00:38:13.480 from Windsor,

00:38:15.040 from Oakville

00:38:15.640 back into Detroit

00:38:16.580 and Ohio,

00:38:18.200 he'll have a lock

00:38:19.520 on those states forever.

00:38:22.060 And yeah,

00:38:23.260 people in Ontario

00:38:24.160 and Quebec

00:38:24.520 will be very upset with that,

00:38:25.740 but they don't vote

00:38:26.580 in the Electoral College.

00:38:28.480 I am truly,

00:38:30.220 I don't think

00:38:30.760 we were on his radar.

00:38:32.080 I think he was focused

00:38:32.940 on China and Mexico,

00:38:34.560 and we just sort of

00:38:35.580 flicked his nose

00:38:37.080 once too many times.

00:38:39.160 What do you think

00:38:39.920 the likelihood is

00:38:41.140 that Trump is saying,

00:38:42.180 the heck with it,

00:38:43.360 if I bring a million

00:38:45.260 or even a half a million

00:38:46.700 more car production

00:38:48.080 a year

00:38:48.640 to Ohio,

00:38:51.420 Michigan,

00:38:52.300 people will say

00:38:54.380 he did it.

00:38:55.120 Trump did it.

00:38:55.820 He brought industry back,

00:38:57.140 and he'll be assured

00:38:58.060 of a re-election.

00:38:59.180 I think that's so tempting.

00:39:00.860 Trudeau doesn't have

00:39:01.520 anything to offer

00:39:02.380 that's more tempting.

00:39:03.500 I agree,

00:39:06.240 and that's my real fear.

00:39:07.800 I have said over and over,

00:39:09.280 Trump doesn't care

00:39:10.760 what the voters

00:39:11.840 of Mexico

00:39:12.960 or Canada

00:39:13.600 or Germany

00:39:14.320 or France

00:39:15.420 or UK

00:39:15.900 or anywhere else

00:39:16.800 say or think.

00:39:18.060 They're not going

00:39:18.600 to vote for him.

00:39:19.620 He knows that.

00:39:20.580 He knows that

00:39:21.300 he was elected

00:39:22.460 by the thinnest of margins

00:39:23.520 in three states

00:39:24.340 that put him there.

00:39:25.560 I'm referring to Michigan.

00:39:26.740 I'm referring to Ohio.

00:39:28.120 I'm referring to Pennsylvania.

00:39:29.680 And in,

00:39:30.500 and I have driven

00:39:31.100 through those states.

00:39:31.780 I mean,

00:39:32.100 as recently

00:39:32.580 as only two months ago.

00:39:34.300 And there is,

00:39:35.620 again,

00:39:36.200 it's not,

00:39:36.800 I don't think Canadians 1.00

00:39:37.660 really have this full

00:39:38.900 accurate sense

00:39:39.940 of what's going on.

00:39:41.020 He is popular

00:39:42.360 in these

00:39:43.900 blue collar

00:39:46.500 and neighborhoods

00:39:47.580 and communities,

00:39:49.060 Scranton,

00:39:50.280 Pennsylvania,

00:39:51.320 for example,

00:39:52.380 where,

00:39:52.940 you know,

00:39:53.420 they are not as prosperous.

00:39:54.960 I mean,

00:39:55.120 it's obvious with the eye.

00:39:56.540 You don't have to look

00:39:57.080 at statistics.

00:39:57.660 You can see it,

00:39:58.780 you know,

00:39:59.080 just in the housing

00:40:00.020 and the cars

00:40:01.140 and so forth.

00:40:02.500 And they like him.

00:40:04.100 They respect him

00:40:04.740 because they think

00:40:05.460 he is standing up

00:40:06.660 for them.

00:40:07.980 And this is what

00:40:08.780 people in Canada

00:40:09.840 don't realize.

00:40:11.000 And that's why,

00:40:11.560 again,

00:40:11.740 I said I think

00:40:12.620 that Mr. Trudeau

00:40:13.360 has made a serious

00:40:14.660 mistake

00:40:15.200 with Ms. Freeland

00:40:17.240 in negotiating.

00:40:18.240 Instead of saying,

00:40:19.720 what can we

00:40:20.600 offer up

00:40:22.120 in order

00:40:23.100 to assure

00:40:24.080 as much as possible

00:40:25.760 guaranteed access

00:40:26.500 to the entire

00:40:27.260 U.S. market

00:40:27.900 of $20 trillion.

00:40:29.680 Instead,

00:40:30.360 we got so focused

00:40:31.440 on defending

00:40:32.360 9,000 dairy farmers

00:40:34.020 and several thousand

00:40:35.660 workers in the

00:40:36.380 telecom industry

00:40:37.260 that he's lost sight

00:40:39.180 of the grand prize,

00:40:40.360 which is that

00:40:40.940 our economy

00:40:41.500 is completely

00:40:42.080 dependent on the U.S.

00:40:42.980 and we must have

00:40:44.000 access

00:40:44.380 to the entire

00:40:45.600 U.S. economy.

00:40:46.540 And we risk

00:40:47.660 losing that

00:40:49.280 because

00:40:49.720 of our,

00:40:50.960 I think,

00:40:51.820 intransigence

00:40:53.180 in negotiating

00:40:54.180 at NAFTA.

00:40:54.940 I tell you,

00:40:56.720 I wish there

00:40:57.180 were some

00:40:57.520 elder statesmen.

00:40:59.180 Even if it was

00:40:59.800 from a different

00:41:00.220 party,

00:41:00.660 I know,

00:41:01.220 I just sense

00:41:02.540 in my bones

00:41:03.040 that Brian Mulrooney

00:41:04.020 would help

00:41:04.580 if asked.

00:41:06.560 I think that

00:41:07.400 even Jean Chrétien,

00:41:09.260 I mean,

00:41:09.520 he's a proud

00:41:10.740 Canadian

00:41:11.120 and he's poked

00:41:11.780 the U.S.

00:41:12.320 in his day.

00:41:13.040 I think Chrétien's

00:41:14.140 a dealmaker

00:41:14.700 by nature.

00:41:15.820 I actually think

00:41:16.680 he could even help

00:41:17.620 and I'm not a

00:41:18.180 super fan of his.

00:41:19.660 I think

00:41:20.440 even Stephen Harper

00:41:21.940 in his own way

00:41:22.940 is trying to

00:41:23.960 smooth things over.

00:41:24.940 I put this out

00:41:26.940 on Twitter

00:41:27.260 the other day,

00:41:27.760 Conrad Black,

00:41:29.200 a former

00:41:30.340 personal friend

00:41:31.360 of Trump

00:41:32.220 who did business

00:41:32.960 with him in Chicago.

00:41:34.320 There are

00:41:34.820 elder statesman

00:41:35.800 type characters

00:41:36.780 who don't have

00:41:38.140 the Trump derangement

00:41:38.980 syndrome in them

00:41:39.780 and who understand

00:41:41.080 what's at stake.

00:41:42.140 I just don't know

00:41:43.020 if there's anyone

00:41:43.580 in Trudeau's circle

00:41:44.560 that could let go

00:41:45.540 of the steering wheel

00:41:47.000 and let a grown-up

00:41:48.120 take over.

00:41:49.040 Last word

00:41:49.520 to you,

00:41:50.080 Professor.

00:41:50.560 Listen,

00:41:51.180 I'm a critic

00:41:51.620 of Trudeau's

00:41:52.180 for partisan reasons

00:41:53.120 but God forbid

00:41:54.460 we lose Canada's 0.99

00:41:55.480 auto industry.

00:41:56.540 It ain't never

00:41:57.060 coming back

00:41:57.680 and we've already

00:41:58.240 lost so much

00:41:58.980 of our oil

00:41:59.420 and gas industry.

00:42:00.820 Is there

00:42:01.340 a way that

00:42:02.780 some elder statesman,

00:42:04.700 even if he's

00:42:05.180 from another party,

00:42:06.400 even if it's

00:42:06.980 Frank McKenna

00:42:07.680 who I think

00:42:08.420 did a good job

00:42:09.260 as an ambassador

00:42:11.280 down there,

00:42:12.300 is there someone

00:42:12.980 that can maybe

00:42:13.900 help straighten

00:42:15.560 things out?

00:42:16.700 I do believe

00:42:17.740 there is

00:42:18.200 and again

00:42:18.640 it goes back

00:42:19.140 to a mistake.

00:42:19.780 I'm not a partisan.

00:42:20.600 I don't belong

00:42:20.960 to any political

00:42:21.540 party.

00:42:21.980 I do not donate

00:42:22.560 money to any

00:42:23.140 political party

00:42:23.760 but I think

00:42:25.040 that Mr. Trudeau

00:42:25.760 when he did

00:42:26.280 after he became

00:42:26.880 the leader

00:42:27.260 as we all know

00:42:28.000 he famously

00:42:28.840 threw at the elders

00:42:29.720 in the Liberal Party.

00:42:31.120 Many of them

00:42:31.540 were blue liberals

00:42:32.460 which is the word

00:42:33.240 we give for business

00:42:34.080 liberals

00:42:34.360 whom I do respect.

00:42:35.820 I include

00:42:36.200 Frank McKenna

00:42:36.860 in that.

00:42:37.480 I include

00:42:37.860 Jean Charest

00:42:38.520 who I have

00:42:39.200 enormous respect

00:42:39.860 for.

00:42:40.540 Robert Bourassa

00:42:41.280 the late Robert

00:42:42.040 Bourassa.

00:42:42.860 John Manley

00:42:43.100 maybe.

00:42:43.680 John Manley.

00:42:44.620 There are

00:42:45.200 I'm hoping

00:42:46.200 that a group

00:42:47.240 of senior

00:42:48.020 elder

00:42:48.600 liberal

00:42:49.300 Jean Chrétien

00:42:50.160 approach Mr. Trudeau

00:42:51.980 very privately

00:42:53.120 quietly

00:42:53.760 and say

00:42:54.580 look

00:42:54.880 Mr. Trudeau

00:42:56.060 you've had

00:42:57.060 24 months

00:42:57.820 to try out

00:42:58.340 that progressive

00:42:58.960 agenda

00:42:59.460 of yours

00:43:00.280 and it has

00:43:01.420 failed miserably

00:43:02.540 and we're at risk

00:43:04.000 we're risking

00:43:04.640 the entire economy

00:43:05.700 of Canada

00:43:06.660 and they could

00:43:07.900 provide

00:43:08.920 call it

00:43:09.500 a backroom

00:43:10.620 kitchen cabinet

00:43:11.520 to him

00:43:12.620 for this crisis

00:43:13.640 and then give him

00:43:14.960 the advice

00:43:15.660 that he's

00:43:16.200 clearly

00:43:16.720 not receiving

00:43:17.620 from his aides

00:43:18.380 in the PMO

00:43:19.060 or his cabinet

00:43:19.880 ministers.

00:43:20.980 Well I tell you

00:43:21.480 for the sake

00:43:22.800 of so much

00:43:23.460 of our industrial

00:43:24.120 economy

00:43:24.560 I hope we get

00:43:25.180 it back on track

00:43:25.760 Professor you've

00:43:26.620 been very generous

00:43:27.280 with your time

00:43:27.800 thanks so much

00:43:28.440 for your point

00:43:29.300 of view

00:43:29.560 and God willing

00:43:30.280 one of those

00:43:30.760 elder spatesmen 0.90

00:43:31.500 in the Liberal

00:43:32.140 Party

00:43:32.520 at least

00:43:33.280 will be able

00:43:34.300 to get through

00:43:34.860 to Trudeau

00:43:35.380 and pull him

00:43:36.200 off his collision

00:43:36.940 course.

00:43:37.300 Thanks for your

00:43:37.680 time today

00:43:38.020 Professor.

00:43:39.160 My pleasure

00:43:39.640 Ezra

00:43:40.140 thanks very much.

00:43:40.900 All right

00:43:41.160 there you have it

00:43:41.680 Professor Ian Lee

00:43:42.600 he's with the

00:43:43.460 Sprott School

00:43:44.180 of Business

00:43:44.860 at Carleton

00:43:46.160 University.

00:43:46.860 Stay with us

00:43:47.420 more ahead

00:43:48.000 on The Rebel.

00:43:59.500 Hey welcome back

00:44:00.640 on my monologue

00:44:01.400 yesterday about

00:44:02.020 Justin Trudeau

00:44:02.580 wanting a new

00:44:03.160 government jet

00:44:04.200 because of a

00:44:05.040 loose wire in a

00:44:05.880 gauge.

00:44:06.940 Harry writes

00:44:07.500 as a former

00:44:08.920 RCAF soldier

00:44:10.060 I was

00:44:10.340 communications

00:44:10.860 system tech

00:44:11.620 air

00:44:12.020 and repaired

00:44:12.900 many many

00:44:13.720 loose wires

00:44:14.480 they were

00:44:15.580 very simple

00:44:16.260 repairs with

00:44:16.800 minimal cost

00:44:17.400 could you

00:44:17.700 imagine

00:44:18.100 what a luxury

00:44:18.920 of an air

00:44:19.400 force

00:44:19.740 we would have

00:44:20.700 had if we

00:44:22.000 follow the

00:44:22.360 same procedure

00:44:22.840 that our

00:44:23.120 prime minister

00:44:23.520 follows

00:44:23.860 talk about

00:44:24.280 entitlement

00:44:24.760 exactly

00:44:26.560 a loose wire

00:44:28.600 so you want

00:44:29.060 to spend

00:44:29.440 tens of

00:44:30.340 millions of

00:44:30.860 dollars

00:44:31.140 on a luxury

00:44:32.000 jet but

00:44:32.560 our fighter

00:44:33.760 pilots

00:44:34.160 they have to

00:44:35.200 get hand-me-downs

00:44:35.940 from Australia.

00:44:37.800 James writes

00:44:38.360 I think Australia

00:44:39.520 has a used

00:44:40.160 Airbus

00:44:40.660 they will sell

00:44:41.300 us along

00:44:41.820 with the

00:44:42.120 used F-18s

00:44:43.560 yeah but

00:44:44.280 only the best

00:44:45.200 for Justin

00:44:45.760 Trudeau

00:44:46.140 I mean

00:44:46.380 seriously

00:44:46.740 he's letting

00:44:47.820 his chef

00:44:48.320 live at

00:44:48.720 24 Sussex

00:44:49.380 Drive

00:44:49.660 he's living

00:44:50.420 at Rideau

00:44:50.820 Hall

00:44:51.100 and he just

00:44:51.840 spent $7,500

00:44:52.640 on a child's

00:44:53.740 play structure

00:44:54.880 at Harrington

00:44:55.600 Lake

00:44:55.920 he's going

00:44:57.320 for like

00:44:58.340 he wants

00:44:59.440 to outshine

00:45:00.320 Donald Trump

00:45:01.280 and Prince

00:45:01.820 Al-Walid 0.53

00:45:02.240 I think.

00:45:03.780 Wayne writes

00:45:04.440 another

00:45:05.460 liberal

00:45:05.780 politician

00:45:06.200 who feels

00:45:06.720 he's entitled

00:45:07.380 to his

00:45:07.760 entitlements

00:45:08.240 nothing to

00:45:09.160 see or hear

00:45:09.560 folks

00:45:09.960 move along

00:45:10.500 yeah it's

00:45:11.100 hard to

00:45:11.460 imagine

00:45:11.880 the media

00:45:13.460 culture

00:45:13.860 that got

00:45:14.840 Bev Oda

00:45:15.560 drummed out

00:45:16.180 of cabinet

00:45:16.640 over a

00:45:17.360 $16

00:45:17.820 orange juice

00:45:18.880 or had

00:45:20.480 a year

00:45:20.740 and a half

00:45:21.040 scandal

00:45:21.600 over

00:45:23.420 Mike Duffy

00:45:24.420 having

00:45:26.460 $90,000

00:45:27.260 of his

00:45:28.080 expenses

00:45:28.600 paid to

00:45:30.260 the government

00:45:30.860 by Nigel Wright

00:45:32.120 the chief

00:45:32.440 of staff

00:45:32.760 so the

00:45:33.080 scandal there

00:45:33.840 that led

00:45:34.520 to this

00:45:34.800 enormous

00:45:35.120 criminal

00:45:35.460 trial

00:45:35.760 which failed

00:45:36.280 of course

00:45:36.700 was that

00:45:37.840 conservatives

00:45:38.400 paid money

00:45:39.440 to the

00:45:40.480 government

00:45:40.940 I long

00:45:42.160 for those

00:45:42.660 kind of

00:45:43.100 scandals

00:45:43.540 don't you

00:45:44.080 yeah

00:45:44.560 well folks

00:45:46.120 that's the

00:45:46.480 show for

00:45:46.800 today

00:45:47.080 on behalf

00:45:47.700 of all

00:45:47.960 of us

00:45:48.120 here at

00:45:48.360 Rebel World

00:45:48.760 headquarters

00:45:49.180 to you

00:45:49.500 at home

00:45:49.740 good night

00:45:50.200 and keep

00:45:51.200 fighting for

00:45:51.760 freedom

00:45:52.100 and keep

00:45:54.440 that

00:45:54.560 very

00:45:55.200 good

00:45:56.540 and keep

00:45:57.880 happy

00:45:58.320 good

00:46:01.120 amazing

00:46:03.260 because

00:46:04.880 You

Rebel News Podcast - June 20, 2018

“Serial slanderers” SPLC apologize, pay $3M+ after being sued — But is The Rebel their next target？

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