Rebel News Podcast - Sheila and Keean take a look back at Rebel's best political stories

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00:01:45.560 Kian Bextie and I take a look back at the year that was at Rebel News.

00:01:59.860 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:02:15.560 It has been some kind of crazy, crazy year, has it not, friends?

00:02:23.420 Alberta, well, we liberated ourselves from the NDP in a landslide victory

00:02:27.660 for Conservative Premier Jason Kenney.

00:02:31.260 And Eastern Canada, primarily Toronto and Montreal, have re-elected 0.91

00:02:36.300 gropey, black-faced, two-faced, fancy-sock laughing-stock 0.85

00:02:42.300 Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for all of us. 0.84

00:02:45.860 And so, of course, the West, well, they want out.

00:02:49.040 Along the way in this crazy, crazy year here at Rebel News,

00:02:53.020 we did some really great journalism that nobody else was doing

00:02:56.740 and we did it on both sides of the longest undefended border in the world.

00:03:02.020 And so tonight, I've invited my friend, my colleague, Kian Bextie on the show

00:03:07.980 so that we may take a look back at some of our favorite stories from this past year

00:03:13.420 and some of the stories that could only be told by us here at Rebel News.

00:03:18.220 So Kian joins me now from his home in Calgary 1.00

00:03:20.640 in an interview we recorded earlier last week.

00:03:24.200 So joining me now is my friend and colleague, Kian Bextie,

00:03:41.980 and we're going to do a little retrospective on the year that was.

00:03:47.580 Kian, thanks for joining me.

00:03:49.520 I want to talk a little bit about some of our favorite stories,

00:03:53.820 some of the stories that were the most fun to do,

00:03:56.500 and some of the stories that couldn't be done

00:03:59.360 by anybody other than us here at the Rebel.

00:04:01.780 And I think you're a perfect encapsulation of that

00:04:03.980 because we joke we're going to release the Kian on a story.

00:04:07.920 You just get on a plane and you show up wherever the news is happening

00:04:11.380 and you're not scared to get it.

00:04:14.480 Let's start with the first one on my list.

00:04:16.520 What was your very favorite story?

00:04:19.380 I'll tell you mine and then you can tell me yours.

00:04:21.780 Mine was the ability to fly to Iraq to tell the story

00:04:26.660 of the persecuted Christians of the region

00:04:29.540 and the difference that, I'll say we,

00:04:33.280 and I don't mean we at the Rebel,

00:04:34.720 I mean we as everybody who donated to our crowdfunding efforts

00:04:39.300 to help Christians in the region.

00:04:41.100 It was, you know, that was a project that's a couple years old

00:04:44.140 and to see the changes that we've made in the lives of Christians in Iraq,

00:04:47.920 whether they want to stay or they want to go.

00:04:50.360 One of the most profound moments, I guess, of my entire life

00:04:53.840 outside of my children and my family

00:04:55.680 is certainly in my entire work career.

00:04:58.100 What's your favorite story of 2019?

00:05:02.060 My favorite story of 2019 was probably the United We Roll convoy,

00:05:07.740 that whole saga that went from Alberta to Ottawa.

00:05:11.180 But I was remembering what you were telling me about your Iraq trip,

00:05:16.700 about how you were bombing around these planes with the priest,

00:05:21.100 listening to hymns, basically, that you sing in your own church.

00:05:24.840 Yeah.

00:05:25.160 Like I think that that's like, it's pretty hard to top something like that,

00:05:28.780 like a moment like that where you realize that these Christians out in Iraq 0.96

00:05:32.680 are fighting, you know, this fight that you can relate to on a religious level,

00:05:37.500 but we can't really, just like when I was in Hong Kong,

00:05:41.460 we couldn't really, in Canada, it's hard to explain to Canadians

00:05:46.500 how dire their circumstances really are.

00:05:49.860 But my favorite story, probably United We Roll,

00:05:53.240 Hong Kong probably a close second.

00:05:55.400 Yeah.

00:05:55.880 For me, I think that was one of your greatest stories

00:06:00.280 was being embedded with United We Roll.

00:06:02.640 And it was so important that we were there

00:06:04.780 and that you were there to tell the other side of the story

00:06:07.540 because, you know, Glenn, you know,

00:06:09.500 Haley from United We Roll like I do.

00:06:11.920 They're good, decent people.

00:06:13.880 They're not hateful people.

00:06:15.520 They're not bigoted people.

00:06:17.060 They just want work for their friends and for their communities.

00:06:20.500 And they were being absolutely axe murdered in the mainstream media.

00:06:24.540 So that's why it was, I think it was great

00:06:26.340 that you were there to tell the other side of the story,

00:06:28.740 which is really our mandate here at The Rebel.

00:06:30.680 Yeah, I mean, the mainstream media wasn't sharing this part of the story

00:06:36.060 that, you know, as we were driving across the Trans-Canada Highway,

00:06:39.860 there were hundreds of people lined up in just kilometer stretches.

00:06:44.460 You know, as we'd get to towns, it would turn into a bit of a parade.

00:06:48.000 And then we'd leave the towns.

00:06:49.660 And then there would just still be,

00:06:51.660 there would still be people spattered at the end of driveways.

00:06:54.940 There was this one mother in a bathrobe holding her baby 0.95

00:06:58.180 in like minus 10 weather.

00:07:00.840 And she was just there with a little sign in her child cheering us on.

00:07:04.880 It was like, it was a Canada-wide movement.

00:07:06.860 And it was something that the mainstream media

00:07:08.220 didn't really want people to know about.

00:07:10.180 They just wanted to know that there was these, you know,

00:07:12.700 rough oil sands workers who were out of work,

00:07:15.880 who were angry at Trudeau.

00:07:17.640 Maybe they were going to arrest him when they got there.

00:07:20.780 They didn't know, but they could be,

00:07:22.780 almost like they were criminals, you know, 0.99

00:07:24.400 like they were white supremacist criminals. 0.60

00:07:26.200 When really they were just oil and gas workers out of work, 0.63

00:07:29.480 wanting to share their story with Canada.

00:07:32.060 Yeah.

00:07:32.260 And Trudeau refused to meet with them.

00:07:35.400 And it was interesting because a lot of the opposition to United We Roll

00:07:38.840 came from within the official pro-oil sands movement.

00:07:44.100 A lot of it came from that side.

00:07:46.420 A lot of the narrative against Glenn

00:07:48.900 and what Glenn and Haley were trying to do

00:07:50.600 came from people who couldn't organize things the way that they could.

00:07:54.840 Let's move on to the next story.

00:07:58.940 What was the most fun story for you to do in 2019?

00:08:05.940 The most fun.

00:08:08.580 Okay.

00:08:09.120 There was a, there's this, here's, here's the background.

00:08:11.660 We, I was coming back from a Donald Trump rally.

00:08:13.500 It's a bit of a story.

00:08:14.180 I was coming back from a Donald Trump rally in Florida

00:08:16.020 and the closest airport that we could get to was Atlanta.

00:08:18.740 So I was driving from the Florida panhandle to Atlanta.

00:08:22.780 And in the middle of the night, as I'm trying to get to my flight at 6 a.m.,

00:08:28.540 I, I'm driving and I'm, I'm tired.

00:08:31.220 And the bush in Alabama is about 40 feet tall on both sides of the road.

00:08:36.340 And then all of a sudden there's a clearing with two lights sort of hovering on the clearing.

00:08:40.080 And I was like, what the heck is that?

00:08:41.120 So I pulled my rental car over.

00:08:43.020 Yeah, I thought it was aliens.

00:08:44.400 I pulled my rental car over and I look.

00:08:46.540 And it's this like Black Hawk helicopter just hovering in this clearing.

00:08:49.880 And then it takes off and it bolts.

00:08:52.240 And then there's a few others that went overhead.

00:08:53.940 And I thought, wow, that was pretty cool.

00:08:55.120 And I ended up going home, back to Calgary.

00:08:57.680 And then I hear news reports that the FBI raided a terrorist compound in Alabama.

00:09:02.520 And to get to Georgia from the Florida panhandle,

00:09:05.220 you had to drive right by where this raid was.

00:09:09.000 And it was the same terrorist that was, that had a compound in New Mexico.

00:09:12.920 It was the weirdest coincidence ever.

00:09:14.700 So after I landed from Atlanta, I ended up packing my stuff again

00:09:18.280 and went right back to Atlanta to go to this road

00:09:21.460 that I just happened to be driving on at like 2 a.m.

00:09:24.100 and I spoke to a few police officers there

00:09:27.680 and they explained to me which gravel road to go down.

00:09:30.620 And I had just bought a new drone.

00:09:32.480 So I go to this terrorist compound in Alabama

00:09:36.740 with this new drone, never flown one in my life.

00:09:40.140 But we wanted to record everything that was there

00:09:42.280 because the compound in New Mexico was bulldozed by the FBI.

00:09:46.440 And nobody understood why.

00:09:47.560 Reporters went to it the day after

00:09:48.960 and were picking up bullets in the sand and manuscripts.

00:09:51.800 And it was just so confusing why the FBI would bulldoze something

00:09:54.840 that had such sensitive information.

00:09:56.960 And maybe if they didn't bulldoze it,

00:09:58.400 they would have known that there was another compound in Alabama,

00:10:01.020 you know, sooner than six months down the road.

00:10:05.520 So anyways, I'm flying this drone

00:10:06.860 through the Alabama bush,

00:10:11.280 videotaping their training camp,

00:10:13.500 the tires that they have set up for the kids to jump through.

00:10:18.340 Because they were training kids.

00:10:19.260 It was a terrorist kindergarten, basically. 0.58

00:10:22.400 They were training kids to shoot up schools.

00:10:25.320 So they had a school bus there.

00:10:27.400 And I drove the drone right along the school bus to peer inside

00:10:30.340 and we looked at the houses.

00:10:31.800 Anyways, it felt pretty 007-esque

00:10:34.780 because, you know, you don't get to fly a drone

00:10:37.000 in a terrorist training compound very often.

00:10:38.740 So that was pretty fun.

00:10:40.640 Yeah, especially a small-town boy from Vulcan, Alberta,

00:10:43.540 flying a drone to examine a terrorist facility in the United States.

00:10:48.380 For me, I guess my most fun stories actually involve you.

00:10:53.420 Because like you, I normally work alone.

00:10:55.520 Like, you're the cameraman for yourself.

00:10:57.300 I'm often the camerawoman for myself.

00:10:58.980 So when Greta came to Edmonton 1.00

00:11:02.720 and we had the How Dare You truck

00:11:05.280 driving in circles around where, like,

00:11:08.220 the climate march in Edmonton

00:11:10.600 was sort of congregating before they began.

00:11:14.360 And I sort of stood back

00:11:15.500 because I didn't want to be recognized.

00:11:17.200 When I get recognized by the left, they normally attack.

00:11:19.620 So I stood back and did it like wildlife photography.

00:11:23.060 I didn't want to interrupt them in their natural habitat.

00:11:25.720 And we got some really great footage from that, you know,

00:11:27.580 activists saying, you know,

00:11:29.840 all the white people to the bag.

00:11:32.720 And also our trip to Madrid.

00:11:35.300 That was so fun working with you.

00:11:38.160 One of my favorite videos, I think, ever that you've done

00:11:40.880 is you breaking the hearts of the, you know,

00:11:45.880 the Greta fangirls, the people who,

00:11:48.260 the next word out of their mouth was that Greta's my hero

00:11:51.540 if they had just kept talking.

00:11:53.660 When you broke their hearts and showed them the car,

00:11:56.080 I mean, that was so fun.

00:11:57.640 And, you know, it shouldn't be fun to deflate their dreams,

00:12:00.520 but it was great to bring those kids to reality.

00:12:02.940 Yes, bringing them to reality.

00:12:05.080 We were doing them a favor, really, 0.99

00:12:06.380 because Greta Thunberg is the biggest climate hypocrite 0.99

00:12:08.780 that there is. 1.00

00:12:10.300 You know, climate contraband everywhere from her car.

00:12:12.840 And today she just tweeted two pictures of her dogs.

00:12:15.220 Dogs are bad.

00:12:16.460 They tell me dogs are bad.

00:12:19.080 Yeah, but Greta Thunberg doesn't care. 1.00

00:12:21.020 She just wants you to euthanize your dogs 1.00

00:12:24.140 and she wants you to throw out all your plastic.

00:12:26.460 She just, she'll tell you that you got to get rid

00:12:29.380 of all of your pets, all of your climate contraband.

00:12:31.800 But when it comes to her, she'll ride in first class

00:12:33.920 on trains and-

00:12:35.660 And lie about it.

00:12:36.360 Oh, and lie about it.

00:12:37.680 She'll fly people across the Atlantic Ocean 1.00

00:12:40.420 so that she can take an exclusive yacht trip 1.00

00:12:43.660 across the sea, but not tell you about the people

00:12:46.260 that she flew across the ocean

00:12:47.300 because that goes against her narrative, right?

00:12:49.860 So exposing Greta was also fun,

00:12:52.760 but I think what you mentioned at the start of this video

00:12:54.700 was, you know, what was the most important thing

00:12:57.780 that we did?

00:12:58.880 And perhaps exposing Greta for who she is,

00:13:01.460 maybe that was probably the most important thing

00:13:03.680 that Rebel News did, or at least I did.

00:13:06.120 Yeah.

00:13:06.820 Because nobody, up until the time that I interviewed her,

00:13:10.660 interviewed Greta at that hotel in Edmonton,

00:13:12.700 nobody had ever done a hostile interview

00:13:16.000 of St. Greta, the climate child.

00:13:19.760 Yeah, I think you just stole my next question.

00:13:22.220 My next question for you would have been the story

00:13:24.880 that most encapsulated the need for the rebel

00:13:28.660 as a counterbalance to the mainstream media.

00:13:31.840 I think that that really is globally speaking,

00:13:35.200 probably the story that really proved

00:13:42.120 that we punch above our weight

00:13:43.380 and we're not unafraid to take on these

00:13:48.520 so-called untouchables.

00:13:50.720 We can't touch, Greta's a child soldier for the left. 0.94

00:13:54.000 That's really what she is.

00:13:55.120 We can't attack her because she's a child soldier, 0.99

00:13:57.340 but we're supposed to listen to her

00:13:58.560 because she's an expert.

00:14:00.020 And we totally, especially you,

00:14:02.680 and I think you approached it a great way

00:14:05.280 when you went to Edmonton and found her parents

00:14:08.180 and her handlers is, you know,

00:14:10.460 you asked her questions until it became apparent

00:14:12.560 that she's just a child.

00:14:14.280 And then you, you know,

00:14:16.280 stuck the knife in her adult handlers, so to speak. 0.98

00:14:19.680 And for me, I think for,

00:14:23.120 if I were to say what was, you know, of your work,

00:14:26.440 that necessitate, like shows why we're necessary,

00:14:30.940 I'd say that was it.

00:14:32.680 Yeah, I would agree with that.

00:14:34.500 And that is an international thing,

00:14:37.620 but I'm racking my brain through all the stories

00:14:40.780 that we've done now, now that we bring this up.

00:14:43.800 And there's stuff that we covered in the United States

00:14:45.980 that the mainstream media wasn't even covering.

00:14:47.780 Ilhan Omar.

00:14:48.180 Do you remember?

00:14:49.020 Yeah.

00:14:49.620 Ilhan Omar was a great example.

00:14:50.980 That was one of my first, like, explosive stories.

00:14:53.640 Yeah.

00:14:54.460 Ilhan Omar and the whole squad, really,

00:14:56.240 when I asked them to condemn that ICE bomber,

00:15:01.640 the terrorist.

00:15:03.120 And they all just said,

00:15:04.100 no, no, no, we have statements coming.

00:15:05.400 I can't condemn them right now

00:15:06.600 until, you know,

00:15:07.540 my handlers tell me that it's okay to condemn them

00:15:10.000 because you don't want to condemn Antifa

00:15:11.900 when you're the squad,

00:15:13.580 when you're Ayanna Pressley

00:15:15.340 and Ilhan Omar and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,

00:15:18.820 seeing all of them in Congress

00:15:21.680 and being able to interview them all

00:15:23.460 really opened my eyes

00:15:26.280 as to how closed off the media is in Canada.

00:15:29.960 You know, it was just,

00:15:31.520 I basically went in that summer

00:15:33.500 from interviewing the most high-profile congresswoman

00:15:36.640 in the United States

00:15:38.180 just on a whim, basically,

00:15:40.920 to pleading my government

00:15:42.580 to letting me into our election debate.

00:15:45.340 And them saying no, you know,

00:15:46.660 like the contrast between

00:15:48.060 what the United States will let journalists do

00:15:50.660 with what the Canadian government

00:15:52.700 will let journalists do is so stark.

00:15:55.940 Yeah, and, you know,

00:15:57.240 it also is pretty evident

00:15:58.860 how the media is falling down on the job

00:16:02.440 in the United States and in Canada.

00:16:05.040 You and David Menzies,

00:16:06.120 both, you're basically jumping out of bushes

00:16:07.660 to ask accountability questions

00:16:09.220 to candidates on the campaign trail

00:16:11.020 that, and you guys were giving liberals

00:16:13.320 and NDPers the treatment

00:16:14.740 that we only see the mainstream media

00:16:16.820 give conservatives.

00:16:18.280 But when you,

00:16:19.200 I don't want to say accosted,

00:16:20.940 but when you committed

00:16:21.660 a dangerous act of journalism

00:16:23.080 on Ilhan Omar,

00:16:24.900 it was right after a press conference

00:16:26.700 and the journalists

00:16:27.900 were just sort of packing up their stuff

00:16:29.340 and going their separate,

00:16:30.640 like, no,

00:16:31.240 if she wasn't going to take questions,

00:16:32.940 they weren't going to ask them.

00:16:34.280 And you didn't take that for an answer.

00:16:37.140 You chased her, 0.63

00:16:38.400 well, not chased her,

00:16:39.240 walked with her

00:16:39.900 and asked her accountability questions,

00:16:41.900 which dozens of journalists

00:16:43.940 who work on Capitol Hill

00:16:45.000 could have done,

00:16:45.680 but it took a Canadian to do it.

00:16:47.620 And they do do it

00:16:48.820 if it's a Republican,

00:16:50.540 you know,

00:16:50.840 like if it is Lindsey Graham

00:16:52.700 coming out of the Kavanaugh hearings,

00:16:56.160 you know,

00:16:56.400 they're scrumming him

00:16:58.460 because he's on the Judiciary Committee

00:17:00.500 and that's an important thing for them.

00:17:03.380 But for some reason,

00:17:04.540 when a major story breaks

00:17:06.020 out of Minneapolis,

00:17:06.920 which I was at just the day before

00:17:09.140 when I was in Washington,

00:17:11.440 when that major story breaks

00:17:13.740 of Ilhan Omar

00:17:14.620 marrying her brother,

00:17:17.120 I mean,

00:17:17.480 it's not,

00:17:18.260 I don't even want to say allegedly anymore.

00:17:20.120 It's a pretty closed case right there.

00:17:22.340 Maybe I should say allegedly.

00:17:23.820 Ilhan Omar allegedly married her brother,

00:17:25.940 ladies and gentlemen.

00:17:27.100 In case you haven't caught up on that story,

00:17:29.380 Google that one.

00:17:30.300 It's a doozy.

00:17:31.140 And it looks like

00:17:31.960 she committed immigration fraud.

00:17:33.540 It looks like

00:17:34.360 she perjured herself

00:17:35.680 on a ton of legal documents

00:17:38.300 for her divorce.

00:17:39.380 And this story just keeps snowballing

00:17:40.740 and snowballing and snowballing. 0.87

00:17:41.840 But for some reason,

00:17:42.960 nobody had the kahanas 0.52

00:17:44.400 to ask Ilhan Omar a question to her face.

00:17:47.040 So as you said, Sheila,

00:17:48.300 right after a press conference

00:17:49.300 was scheduled on the Hill,

00:17:50.700 I just walked with her.

00:17:52.240 That was it.

00:17:52.740 That was the brave act of journalism

00:17:54.340 that exploded in the United States.

00:17:56.360 They shared it far and wide

00:17:57.380 because they just couldn't believe it.

00:17:59.140 Someone managed to get Ilhan Omar,

00:18:01.260 you know,

00:18:01.460 the member,

00:18:02.100 the leader of the squad,

00:18:03.640 or maybe it's AOC,

00:18:04.540 if it's the leader,

00:18:05.080 I'm not sure these days.

00:18:06.460 But it's stunning

00:18:07.740 how incompetent

00:18:09.000 the mainstream media is

00:18:10.400 in the United States.

00:18:12.140 Yeah.

00:18:12.600 Given how much access

00:18:13.700 they're allowed to have.

00:18:14.680 Yeah.

00:18:15.080 And they sure hate us,

00:18:16.080 but we're not going to go away

00:18:17.100 as long as they don't do their jobs.

00:18:18.600 Like,

00:18:18.960 as far as the mainstream media

00:18:20.380 is concerned, 0.99

00:18:21.040 as long as they stay inept, 0.99

00:18:22.960 then that's great job security 0.98

00:18:24.960 for you and I.

00:18:25.760 I think for me,

00:18:27.480 and Ezra did it,

00:18:31.280 but I'd like to say

00:18:31.900 I did it first.

00:18:34.620 In,

00:18:35.740 I wrote The Destroyers

00:18:38.160 to tell the other side

00:18:39.040 of Rachel Notley's NDP

00:18:41.200 that,

00:18:41.860 you know,

00:18:42.020 to give them the vetting

00:18:42.820 they weren't getting

00:18:43.560 in the mainstream media.

00:18:45.020 And Ezra did it

00:18:45.940 this time

00:18:46.840 for the Libranos,

00:18:48.200 for,

00:18:49.140 you know,

00:18:49.640 the liberals

00:18:50.280 to a certain extent

00:18:51.000 in his book,

00:18:51.660 The Libranos.

00:18:52.700 And,

00:18:52.940 you know,

00:18:53.240 he told the story

00:18:54.900 of the scandals

00:18:56.140 that are quickly told

00:18:58.800 in the mainstream media

00:18:59.640 and quickly swept

00:19:01.380 under the rug.

00:19:02.120 And for me,

00:19:02.880 going on,

00:19:03.520 you know,

00:19:03.900 handing out Libranos signs

00:19:05.280 and going to the book signings

00:19:08.200 and,

00:19:08.500 you know,

00:19:08.880 helping get that information

00:19:10.720 in people's hands.

00:19:11.580 And they were thirsty

00:19:12.820 for that information.

00:19:13.820 They really wanted it.

00:19:14.980 I think Ezra's book

00:19:15.740 went to number two.

00:19:18.980 I think that was,

00:19:20.200 that for me

00:19:20.820 was a huge success

00:19:21.940 in 2019.

00:19:22.920 And I'd like to think

00:19:24.600 I played a part in it,

00:19:25.480 even though Ezra wrote the book.

00:19:27.200 But again,

00:19:28.280 that we can write these books

00:19:31.060 that go to number one

00:19:32.660 for me

00:19:33.540 and number two

00:19:34.480 for Ezra.

00:19:36.440 And we don't get reviewed

00:19:37.840 in Maclean's.

00:19:38.820 We don't get reviewed

00:19:40.060 by anybody

00:19:41.100 in the mainstream media.

00:19:42.160 I got bumped

00:19:42.800 by a Harry Potter book.

00:19:44.240 That's how,

00:19:45.040 that's how successful

00:19:46.320 The Destroyers was.

00:19:49.500 And nobody talks about it.

00:19:51.180 They just,

00:19:51.640 like,

00:19:52.180 not that nobody talks about it,

00:19:53.360 but nobody in the mainstream media

00:19:54.600 talks about it.

00:19:55.200 They just pretend like

00:19:56.000 we don't exist.

00:19:57.600 But the book sales,

00:19:58.840 they speak for themselves,

00:20:00.060 that people want

00:20:00.980 the other side of the story.

00:20:02.760 And,

00:20:03.040 you know,

00:20:03.800 layoffs all the time

00:20:04.960 in the mainstream media.

00:20:06.020 And yet we can write books

00:20:06.880 that go to number one

00:20:07.640 and number two.

00:20:08.500 And the media wonders why.

00:20:10.540 How are they able to do it?

00:20:11.800 Well,

00:20:12.380 how about some balance?

00:20:14.040 The stunning thing

00:20:14.880 about these books

00:20:15.760 that you wrote

00:20:16.560 and the one that Ezra wrote

00:20:17.540 is they don't go,

00:20:18.880 you know,

00:20:19.180 they're not put on

00:20:19.900 the front shelf

00:20:20.560 at chapters.

00:20:21.520 No.

00:20:21.680 You know,

00:20:21.920 Margaret Atwood's book,

00:20:22.980 that's the one

00:20:24.300 that edged Ezra out.

00:20:28.240 That was,

00:20:28.520 you know,

00:20:28.700 that was,

00:20:29.060 you couldn't avoid

00:20:30.380 seeing that book

00:20:31.700 at every airport bookstore,

00:20:33.020 at every chapters,

00:20:34.200 Indigo,

00:20:34.540 whatever.

00:20:35.180 That's being shoved 0.91

00:20:36.260 down your throats. 0.87

00:20:37.680 But Ezra's book

00:20:38.520 and your book,

00:20:39.320 it's word of mouth.

00:20:40.560 It's us advertising

00:20:41.700 it on our own.

00:20:42.360 It's a little bit

00:20:43.020 of Amazon.

00:20:43.980 And it's us going

00:20:45.180 from town to town

00:20:46.340 to hand the book

00:20:47.600 out to people

00:20:48.240 who want it.

00:20:48.820 And if,

00:20:49.680 oh boy,

00:20:50.160 like if Margaret Atwood

00:20:50.920 did that,

00:20:51.400 she would probably 0.94

00:20:52.500 meet in an empty

00:20:53.240 parking lot.

00:20:54.140 Whereas,

00:20:54.860 you know,

00:20:55.080 the people interested

00:20:56.080 in the other side

00:20:56.720 of the story,

00:20:57.500 they line up in droves

00:20:58.800 to get this

00:20:59.260 because they can't

00:20:59.920 find it anywhere else.

00:21:01.420 Yeah.

00:21:01.900 Yeah.

00:21:02.160 That's a great point,

00:21:03.020 actually,

00:21:03.540 that,

00:21:03.860 you know,

00:21:04.220 it's all,

00:21:04.640 it's all grassroots

00:21:06.120 and yet these other

00:21:07.660 media conglomerates

00:21:09.140 ignore the grassroots

00:21:10.520 and just go with

00:21:11.400 their own agenda

00:21:12.220 because they exist

00:21:13.260 in a bubble.

00:21:13.880 They have no connection

00:21:14.680 to the people.

00:21:16.800 Next question.

00:21:17.560 What was your biggest

00:21:18.500 win in 2019?

00:21:21.280 I'll tell you mine.

00:21:22.140 Mine was winning

00:21:23.640 against the elections

00:21:24.560 commissioner

00:21:25.200 and having them

00:21:25.940 drop their investigation

00:21:27.340 into my illegal book

00:21:29.340 and then watching

00:21:30.960 Lauren Gibson get fired

00:21:32.100 because he's a partisan

00:21:33.100 hack who never

00:21:34.600 should have had the job

00:21:35.660 in the first place.

00:21:36.820 However,

00:21:37.260 I did get left

00:21:38.040 with some $75,000

00:21:39.520 in legal fees

00:21:40.320 and if people want

00:21:40.840 to help me out,

00:21:41.660 they can go to

00:21:42.180 savesheela.com.

00:21:43.940 What was your biggest win?

00:21:45.140 My biggest win was

00:21:47.860 it was also legal,

00:21:49.400 like legally related.

00:21:52.580 Your win was hard to beat

00:21:53.760 and he's still getting

00:21:54.680 hammered in the courts

00:21:56.040 right now

00:21:56.580 because a judge

00:21:58.020 recently said

00:21:58.860 that his fines

00:22:00.500 were vindictive

00:22:01.620 and like cruel.

00:22:03.180 It was just

00:22:03.860 chicken soup

00:22:04.760 for the soul.

00:22:05.520 It was because

00:22:06.420 he,

00:22:07.460 Lauren Gibson,

00:22:08.320 what I don't think

00:22:08.940 people understand

00:22:09.640 is this elections

00:22:10.880 commissioner,

00:22:11.580 he gets to open

00:22:12.900 the investigation

00:22:13.640 into you,

00:22:14.960 decide if it's

00:22:15.840 worth an investigation. 0.79

00:22:17.560 Then he sicks 0.66

00:22:18.400 the investigators 0.94

00:22:19.220 on you.

00:22:20.460 Then they make

00:22:21.540 a finding of guilt.

00:22:22.860 You may or may not

00:22:23.780 ever get to see

00:22:24.560 the evidence against you.

00:22:25.740 I didn't get to see

00:22:26.720 a single complaint

00:22:27.560 against me.

00:22:28.900 Then they get to decide

00:22:31.440 what fines

00:22:32.640 you're levied

00:22:33.500 and then they get 0.96

00:22:34.480 to execute

00:22:35.120 the fines against you.

00:22:36.380 None of it

00:22:37.060 ever goes before

00:22:38.120 a judge

00:22:38.640 and what's great

00:22:39.740 is the second

00:22:40.820 that this stuff

00:22:42.380 went before a judge.

00:22:43.640 A judge said

00:22:44.360 this is crazy

00:22:45.740 and it doesn't

00:22:47.000 make any sense.

00:22:47.820 So here's to

00:22:48.960 Lauren Gibson

00:22:49.440 being a laughingstock.

00:22:51.280 Anyway,

00:22:51.580 sorry to interrupt.

00:22:53.020 I think that we

00:22:54.260 should be taking

00:22:54.740 things to judges

00:22:55.440 more often

00:22:56.020 because the second

00:22:56.680 we took

00:22:57.200 the elections

00:22:58.720 commission

00:22:59.380 or the debates

00:23:01.140 commission

00:23:01.580 to court

00:23:02.940 to say,

00:23:03.620 no,

00:23:03.740 you got to let us

00:23:04.380 into the most

00:23:05.520 high profile debate

00:23:06.600 in this election.

00:23:07.700 We are accredited

00:23:08.460 journalists.

00:23:09.060 You know,

00:23:09.180 the Secretary of State

00:23:11.080 has accredited us.

00:23:12.020 The United Nations

00:23:12.900 has accredited us.

00:23:14.520 Israel's accredited.

00:23:15.280 Everywhere around the world

00:23:16.220 has accredited Rebel News

00:23:17.200 but our own government

00:23:19.160 says,

00:23:19.880 no,

00:23:20.120 no,

00:23:20.340 no,

00:23:20.580 no,

00:23:20.800 you have committed

00:23:22.040 activism once before.

00:23:23.660 Well,

00:23:24.040 we laid out,

00:23:24.720 well,

00:23:24.780 the Toronto Star's

00:23:25.900 main mandate

00:23:26.680 is activism.

00:23:27.660 News is secondary

00:23:28.320 to them.

00:23:29.240 They pick and choose

00:23:29.960 the news

00:23:30.340 that they want

00:23:30.800 to report on

00:23:31.380 based on whether

00:23:32.080 or not it fits

00:23:32.680 their progressive narrative

00:23:33.980 but they let them in.

00:23:35.200 They let a couple

00:23:35.700 of them in.

00:23:36.200 They let Chinese

00:23:36.700 state broadcasters

00:23:37.700 in.

00:23:37.860 And they let tons

00:23:38.480 of these,

00:23:40.700 I mean,

00:23:41.260 if they identify

00:23:41.900 as a journalist,

00:23:42.660 I'll give them

00:23:44.100 the benefit of the doubt.

00:23:45.400 That's what I expect

00:23:45.980 people to do for me.

00:23:47.480 But when it came to us

00:23:48.720 just because we were

00:23:49.400 conservative,

00:23:50.640 the debates commission

00:23:51.160 said,

00:23:51.480 no,

00:23:51.620 you can't come in.

00:23:52.320 So David Menzies

00:23:53.000 and I flew,

00:23:53.820 well,

00:23:54.040 David was in Toronto.

00:23:54.880 I flew to Toronto

00:23:55.640 to meet Ezra there

00:23:56.860 in court

00:23:57.460 at 9 a.m.

00:23:59.080 We found a judge.

00:24:00.940 He heard our case.

00:24:02.300 And before I knew

00:24:03.020 the ruling,

00:24:03.880 I flew to Ottawa

00:24:04.720 because I wouldn't

00:24:05.340 be able to make it

00:24:06.080 if I waited for the ruling.

00:24:07.320 So it was all on a hope

00:24:08.700 and a prayer.

00:24:09.620 Yeah.

00:24:10.460 And,

00:24:10.960 you know,

00:24:11.280 10 times,

00:24:12.460 five times,

00:24:13.500 maybe one half

00:24:14.160 of the times

00:24:14.660 these trips

00:24:15.960 don't work out.

00:24:16.800 By the way,

00:24:17.300 some of the people

00:24:18.060 that are viewing

00:24:18.500 these stories,

00:24:19.440 they see the successful

00:24:20.780 ones.

00:24:21.180 Lots of times

00:24:21.780 these flights

00:24:22.340 don't go the way

00:24:23.640 we hope it does.

00:24:24.600 We drill a few dusters

00:24:26.600 before we get a good story.

00:24:28.880 Yeah.

00:24:29.180 So I flew to Ottawa

00:24:30.380 and luckily

00:24:31.040 it just worked out

00:24:31.980 and we were allowed in.

00:24:34.900 The judge ruled

00:24:36.040 that the debates commission's

00:24:39.540 findings

00:24:40.580 and their argument

00:24:41.620 were incomprehensible.

00:24:44.100 Like they didn't

00:24:44.620 really make sense.

00:24:45.640 The arguments didn't flow

00:24:46.660 and they were just

00:24:47.720 sort of pulling things

00:24:48.600 out of thin air

00:24:49.420 as arguments

00:24:50.620 and it didn't resemble

00:24:53.240 a legal argument.

00:24:55.100 And so the judge said,

00:24:56.580 yep,

00:24:56.820 go in,

00:24:57.380 he and David

00:24:57.880 and David

00:24:58.640 and I strutted in there

00:24:59.820 like you wouldn't believe.

00:25:00.920 Like it was,

00:25:01.620 it was,

00:25:02.540 that was the biggest win

00:25:03.780 of the year

00:25:04.660 for sure

00:25:05.480 because we walked in

00:25:06.620 with the debates commission

00:25:08.620 just,

00:25:09.120 just foaming at the mouth

00:25:11.200 and all of the accredited

00:25:13.040 journalists

00:25:13.620 who were already in there

00:25:14.800 had all of their desk space

00:25:16.220 all taken

00:25:16.660 and we just sort of did

00:25:17.680 a victory lap

00:25:18.920 through the

00:25:19.940 Museum of Natural History

00:25:21.640 or Canadian,

00:25:22.620 Museum of Canadian History

00:25:23.720 so that they could all say,

00:25:25.140 yeah,

00:25:25.300 we're in here

00:25:25.900 and then we took a desk

00:25:27.000 at the back

00:25:27.460 and we did our job

00:25:28.280 I think better than

00:25:29.140 anyone else there

00:25:30.240 because we asked

00:25:31.720 more questions

00:25:32.480 than most,

00:25:33.740 most of the other media

00:25:35.160 outlets combined

00:25:36.100 and the,

00:25:37.440 you know,

00:25:37.700 the debates commission

00:25:38.380 said,

00:25:39.060 oh,

00:25:39.200 it's highly unlikely

00:25:40.020 that they'll even be able

00:25:41.060 to ask a single question

00:25:42.180 because the lineups

00:25:43.640 will be so long,

00:25:44.580 it'll be so hard

00:25:45.200 to get a question,

00:25:45.980 maybe the leaders

00:25:46.480 won't pick them

00:25:47.160 but,

00:25:47.780 you know,

00:25:47.860 we just got in line

00:25:48.800 and had lots of questions

00:25:50.220 to ask

00:25:50.780 because there was

00:25:51.340 quite the backlog

00:25:52.060 given that we weren't

00:25:53.340 allowed access

00:25:53.860 for quite a long time

00:25:54.700 and we did a better job

00:25:56.480 than anyone else there

00:25:57.220 so that was just

00:25:58.520 a night full

00:25:59.600 of straight winning.

00:26:01.420 Yeah,

00:26:01.640 I liked how

00:26:02.900 the mainstream media

00:26:04.580 journalists

00:26:05.020 were sort of like

00:26:05.820 shocked

00:26:06.260 and clutching their pearls

00:26:07.360 at how you and David,

00:26:10.040 you particularly

00:26:10.980 in that first debate

00:26:11.880 and then you and David

00:26:12.840 in the second debate

00:26:13.660 were able to get questions,

00:26:15.340 how you guys ended up

00:26:16.600 getting questions first

00:26:17.760 and it's like,

00:26:18.960 well,

00:26:19.140 hustle and hard work.

00:26:20.520 You know,

00:26:20.660 when you have to fight

00:26:21.440 for everything,

00:26:22.520 of course you're going

00:26:23.120 to fight to get

00:26:23.620 the first question.

00:26:24.620 Of course you're going

00:26:25.200 to figure out a way

00:26:25.780 to get to the front

00:26:26.380 of the line

00:26:26.860 and,

00:26:27.740 you know,

00:26:27.860 these other journalists,

00:26:28.820 they get access

00:26:30.400 handed to them

00:26:31.940 so it's shocking

00:26:33.200 to them

00:26:33.760 to see,

00:26:34.820 you know,

00:26:35.960 other journalists

00:26:36.920 who are scrappier

00:26:38.400 and who,

00:26:40.100 where we come from

00:26:40.920 a meritocracy

00:26:41.840 at the Rebel,

00:26:43.220 they were just shocked.

00:26:44.900 They were shocked.

00:26:45.360 It was a cultural divide

00:26:47.680 between you

00:26:48.220 and the other journalists

00:26:48.940 that was very evident

00:26:50.040 and I,

00:26:50.500 I really enjoyed it

00:26:51.780 actually.

00:26:53.300 David and I waited

00:26:54.320 for about an hour

00:26:55.900 and a half

00:26:56.520 with Andrew Lawton

00:26:57.540 because he was also

00:26:58.380 in the same position

00:26:59.120 as us from True North.

00:27:00.500 We waited for an hour

00:27:01.840 and a half

00:27:02.300 at that French debate

00:27:03.360 after I sort of

00:27:04.480 understood how

00:27:05.160 it was going to work

00:27:05.840 and where we had to line up

00:27:07.140 to show the police dogs

00:27:08.100 our bags,

00:27:08.620 that kind of thing.

00:27:09.160 We waited there

00:27:09.860 for an hour and a half

00:27:11.100 to be the first in line

00:27:12.120 and even then

00:27:13.240 the president

00:27:14.400 of the press gallery

00:27:15.300 who I found out

00:27:16.160 after the fact

00:27:16.640 who this was,

00:27:17.680 he tried to budge us

00:27:18.640 in line multiple times

00:27:19.980 and I was just like,

00:27:20.740 no, I'm not,

00:27:21.640 like you're not going

00:27:22.200 to go in front of me

00:27:22.800 so I just kept

00:27:23.280 walking ahead of him.

00:27:24.180 He was,

00:27:24.780 that guy,

00:27:25.820 he's a, 1.00

00:27:26.480 he's a jerk 1.00

00:27:27.720 but it was a lot 1.00

00:27:30.240 of grit and hard work

00:27:31.020 to get those questions asked

00:27:32.400 and it's just something

00:27:32.980 that mainstream media

00:27:33.540 is not used to.

00:27:34.860 You know,

00:27:35.140 and winning

00:27:35.940 is really the best revenge,

00:27:37.960 isn't it?

00:27:38.400 Now,

00:27:40.320 last question

00:27:41.060 because I've taken up

00:27:41.900 a bit of your time.

00:27:43.840 What do you want

00:27:45.160 to focus on

00:27:45.880 in 2020?

00:27:47.960 Because

00:27:48.400 I think what sets

00:27:49.940 us apart

00:27:50.580 from the rest

00:27:51.440 of the mainstream media

00:27:52.280 is we get a lot

00:27:52.940 of freedom

00:27:53.380 to cover the issues

00:27:54.840 that are really important

00:27:55.900 to us as individuals.

00:27:57.960 I mean,

00:27:58.560 I get to cover

00:27:59.580 the agriculture beat

00:28:00.800 because I'm a farmer

00:28:03.460 and,

00:28:04.260 you know,

00:28:05.340 I get the freedom

00:28:06.220 and leeway to do that.

00:28:07.160 Of course,

00:28:07.440 you and I are both

00:28:08.020 oil patch advocates.

00:28:10.100 What are you going

00:28:10.740 to focus on

00:28:11.280 in 2020?

00:28:12.600 I,

00:28:13.120 in particular,

00:28:14.000 want to focus

00:28:14.580 on the Indigenous

00:28:15.760 communities

00:28:16.340 who benefit

00:28:17.060 from oil and gas

00:28:18.640 and all these

00:28:19.360 agreements

00:28:20.040 with oil and gas

00:28:20.980 companies

00:28:21.380 who are now

00:28:22.220 being dammed

00:28:23.600 to poverty

00:28:24.340 by the federal

00:28:25.440 government

00:28:25.900 and the NGOs,

00:28:27.400 these environmental

00:28:28.040 NGOs

00:28:28.520 who love to stand

00:28:29.780 behind Indigenous 1.00

00:28:31.340 groups to say,

00:28:32.580 you know,

00:28:32.840 block the pipeline,

00:28:33.980 it's for Indigenous

00:28:34.580 rights while damming

00:28:35.700 entire communities

00:28:36.560 to generational

00:28:37.260 poverty.

00:28:37.860 I want to tell

00:28:38.500 those stories.

00:28:39.500 What do you want

00:28:39.980 to do?

00:28:41.260 Well,

00:28:41.740 I think that it's

00:28:42.760 going to be a really

00:28:43.460 busy year because

00:28:44.360 there's going to be

00:28:44.860 two major elections.

00:28:45.920 There's going to be

00:28:46.260 the election of the

00:28:47.560 new conservative

00:28:48.440 leader to replace

00:28:49.260 Andrew Scheer,

00:28:50.280 barring him not

00:28:51.280 staying on indefinitely

00:28:52.400 until the government

00:28:53.360 collapses.

00:28:54.200 Yeah,

00:28:54.220 that's a long goodbye,

00:28:55.140 isn't it?

00:28:55.440 Yeah,

00:28:56.500 it's a really long

00:28:57.360 goodbye.

00:28:58.640 So there's going

00:28:59.620 to be that,

00:29:00.140 but then there's also

00:29:00.760 going to be the 2020

00:29:01.600 Democratic

00:29:02.500 primaries,

00:29:04.320 which will wrap

00:29:06.440 up probably

00:29:07.440 halfway through

00:29:08.040 the year.

00:29:08.400 I don't know

00:29:08.720 the exact date

00:29:09.280 on that,

00:29:09.660 but then right

00:29:10.400 after that is

00:29:11.360 the American

00:29:11.700 presidential election.

00:29:13.040 So that's actually

00:29:13.780 three huge elections

00:29:15.720 that we are going

00:29:16.680 to have to try

00:29:18.240 our best to cover

00:29:19.920 the whole thing.

00:29:20.700 I mean,

00:29:21.000 it's not like we

00:29:21.760 have a whole floor

00:29:23.960 of people working

00:29:25.820 for us like CNN

00:29:26.760 does,

00:29:27.240 multiple floors

00:29:28.100 of people for them

00:29:28.840 and Fox News

00:29:29.500 and all that.

00:29:30.360 We have you,

00:29:31.520 me,

00:29:32.060 Ezra,

00:29:32.660 David,

00:29:33.320 Abigail.

00:29:34.760 So we're going

00:29:35.820 to do our best

00:29:36.320 to cover it

00:29:36.840 and we're going

00:29:37.280 to,

00:29:38.080 you know,

00:29:38.400 it's going

00:29:38.840 to be a long

00:29:39.360 grind,

00:29:40.000 but I think

00:29:40.740 it's just such

00:29:41.460 a rewarding job

00:29:42.300 that we get to

00:29:42.760 work for Rebel

00:29:44.000 News,

00:29:44.940 covering stories

00:29:46.340 that one,

00:29:47.780 if we wanted

00:29:48.380 to cover while

00:29:48.980 working for CTV,

00:29:50.900 like,

00:29:51.980 you know,

00:29:52.280 the,

00:29:53.120 what's his name,

00:29:54.080 Mike Arcelini's

00:29:54.920 of the world,

00:29:55.500 we wouldn't be

00:29:55.940 allowed to.

00:29:56.420 We'd have to

00:29:56.860 cover Lost Dogs

00:29:58.500 and,

00:29:59.060 you know,

00:29:59.840 broken fire hydrants,

00:30:01.160 but we get to

00:30:02.100 cover terrorist

00:30:03.000 training camps,

00:30:04.180 we get to cover

00:30:05.040 the President

00:30:05.720 of the United States

00:30:06.760 in the White House.

00:30:09.660 It's just such

00:30:10.400 an honor to be able

00:30:10.980 to do the job

00:30:11.540 that I do,

00:30:12.260 and it's an even

00:30:13.700 bigger honor

00:30:14.160 that people watch it

00:30:15.660 and enjoy the content

00:30:16.980 that we produce

00:30:17.580 and the news

00:30:18.000 that we produce.

00:30:19.240 It's really,

00:30:19.940 it's such a fulfilling

00:30:20.920 job and I hope

00:30:21.560 that we can just

00:30:22.100 double down on

00:30:22.700 what we've been

00:30:23.100 doing next year.

00:30:24.220 Great,

00:30:24.720 Kian,

00:30:24.900 thank you so much

00:30:25.740 for taking the time

00:30:26.800 to do this interview

00:30:27.500 and thank you

00:30:28.460 so much

00:30:28.900 for personifying

00:30:31.080 the work that we do

00:30:31.860 here at The Rebel,

00:30:32.560 which is punching

00:30:33.140 above our weight

00:30:33.880 and asking the questions

00:30:34.940 that nobody else will.

00:30:37.160 Happy New Year,

00:30:37.900 buddy.

00:30:38.820 Happy New Year

00:30:39.340 and Merry Christmas,

00:30:39.980 Sheila.

00:30:40.460 Yeah,

00:30:40.740 you too.

00:30:48.400 You know,

00:30:49.000 Kian's right, 0.86

00:30:49.560 we've got a frisky

00:30:50.960 year ahead of us,

00:30:52.140 don't we?

00:30:52.820 We're going to see,

00:30:54.020 possibly,

00:30:54.600 a conservative

00:30:55.100 leadership race

00:30:56.380 and we might be

00:30:57.480 one of the only

00:30:58.240 journalistic outlets

00:30:59.140 that will treat

00:30:59.960 the race fairly

00:31:02.060 because,

00:31:03.020 well,

00:31:03.500 first off,

00:31:04.020 we aren't anti-conservative

00:31:05.160 like the mainstream media is,

00:31:06.600 but also fairly

00:31:07.580 because we don't mind

00:31:08.780 holding our own

00:31:10.180 to account

00:31:10.640 when they aren't

00:31:11.320 conservative enough.

00:31:12.600 We are also going

00:31:13.960 to be covering

00:31:14.440 the Western alienation

00:31:15.860 sentiment fairly

00:31:16.880 because the mainstream media

00:31:18.600 paints disaffected

00:31:19.960 Albertans

00:31:20.660 as racist 1.00

00:31:21.800 backwards hillbillies. 0.99

00:31:23.660 And who knows,

00:31:24.840 we might even see

00:31:25.640 a federal election

00:31:26.780 if Justin Trudeau

00:31:27.920 does something 1.00

00:31:28.720 idiotic enough 1.00

00:31:30.440 to force the NDP 1.00

00:31:31.580 to vote against

00:31:33.180 his government

00:31:33.880 causing his minority 0.99

00:31:35.000 government to fall.

00:31:36.880 Here's hoping.

00:31:38.340 And we've got an election

00:31:39.460 in the United States

00:31:40.840 and you,

00:31:41.620 dear viewer,

00:31:42.100 you've already seen

00:31:42.880 the kind of work

00:31:43.640 Kian can do 1.00

00:31:44.460 when we set him loose

00:31:46.340 on those pesky

00:31:47.720 Democrats.

00:31:48.340 2020 is going

00:31:51.060 to be exciting

00:31:52.420 however you slice it.

00:31:53.900 It's going to be hard work

00:31:54.900 but it's work

00:31:55.720 we're proud to do

00:31:56.600 and it's work

00:31:57.420 we can only do

00:31:58.320 with the support

00:31:59.400 of our friends

00:32:00.280 and viewers

00:32:01.220 like you at home.

00:32:03.140 So thank you

00:32:03.780 for your support

00:32:04.640 this past year.

00:32:06.300 I hope everybody

00:32:07.180 had a very Merry Christmas

00:32:08.300 and here's to a very

00:32:09.300 Happy New Year

00:32:10.460 full of opportunity

00:32:11.720 and hope.

00:32:13.360 I'll see everybody

00:32:13.980 back here

00:32:14.540 in the same time

00:32:15.360 in the same place

00:32:16.140 next week.

00:32:17.020 And remember,

00:32:17.560 don't let the government

00:32:18.920 tell you

00:32:19.440 that you've had

00:32:20.040 too much to think.

00:32:21.020 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - December 26, 2019

Sheila and Keean take a look back at Rebel's best political stories

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