Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ A rare win for common sense in Ottawa

00:00:00.160 the city of ottawa has a brand new mayor who doesn't seem to be a hypochondriac

00:00:05.520 worry wart how did we come to this startling turn of events

00:00:10.720 a rare win for common sense i'm sheila gun reid and you're watching the gun show

00:00:30.000 former ottawa city councillor social justice warrior climate activist and anti-convoy ball

00:00:38.640 of nerves catherine mckinney lost her bid to be the next mayor of the nation's capital city after

00:00:43.080 votes coalesced around someone far more reasonable but someone i probably disagree with on almost

00:00:49.040 everything former broadcaster mark sutcliffe it's odd because if you got all your news from the

00:00:53.580 mainstream media you would have thought that mckinney was an absolute shoo-in for the mayor's

00:00:58.880 office she's immensely popular on social media she's the face of the anti-convoy city councillors 0.65

00:01:04.120 on local and national news but none of that translated at the ballot box so what happened

00:01:10.040 and how the heck did it happen i think it had a lot to do with citizens turning up at public forums and

00:01:15.240 actually asking real questions and not the boring insufferable questions nobody cares about that are

00:01:21.000 normally asked by equally boring moderators at these sorts of things and i think it caught mckinney

00:01:26.800 completely flat-footed tonight ottawa resident tom harris the man behind that citizen organized

00:01:32.040 campaign to ask questions joins me tonight to discuss what unfolded in the city of ottawa in

00:01:37.200 their latest election now tom and i normally meet in some foreign country this time of year

00:01:41.140 because tom's also with the international climate science coalition canada and this time of year

00:01:46.960 we are often at the united nations climate change conferences but as you can see both of us are

00:01:52.340 at home so we're going to discuss what we anticipate will come from the conference from afar check it out

00:01:59.040 so joining me now is my friend and good friend of the show tom harris from the international climate

00:02:10.640 science coalition canada and last time tom was on the show he was talking to me about

00:02:15.420 normal people turning up at public debates for local politicians because where a lot of these

00:02:24.580 majorly expensive climate change policies are coming from is not from the federal government

00:02:30.120 it's coming out of municipalities that are being infected with world economic forum and u.n garbage

00:02:36.420 and tom was telling us about the successes of normal citizens turning up at these debates now

00:02:42.220 the municipal election has come and gone in ottawa and thankfully the climate alarmist lockdown alarmist

00:02:51.000 anti-convoy candidate katherine mckinney who is running for mayor has lost i thought we could bring tom

00:02:57.220 back on we could talk a little bit more about the successes that unfolded there to get i think a more

00:03:02.540 reasonable i don't know if i would agree with your new mayor on very much but he seems at least

00:03:07.860 reasonable and then we'll talk about the latest u.n climate change conference that's coming up and

00:03:13.280 that's usually where tom and i meet but neither one of us are going this year so tom thanks for being

00:03:18.240 patient with me through that big long preamble let's talk about the ottawa election tell me who won

00:03:24.880 and why you think they won yeah exactly back in july katherine mckinney who is a current counselor in the

00:03:32.420 council until november 15th that's when they have the switch over she was ahead significantly ahead

00:03:38.920 and now her her support was only in the 30s but all of the rest of the candidates were splitting the

00:03:44.720 vote so it looked very likely that she was going to win the election with a high 38 percent something 0.98

00:03:50.520 like that and in fact over the time period between july and the final election her actual vote count

00:03:57.020 slightly rose okay so she kept her solid um supporters and they did vote for her but a very

00:04:04.620 interesting thing happened mark sutcliffe who was a previous radio announcer with cfra here in ottawa

00:04:10.120 uh he actually was quite far behind her until just a few weeks before the election and what happened is there

00:04:18.240 were two things first of all there was a huge percentage something like 30 undecided okay and they

00:04:24.940 apparently all switched to sutcliffe the other thing that happened is the third fourth and fifth

00:04:30.040 candidates lost their support to sutcliffe and i think what happened is that katherine mckinney scared

00:04:36.440 people so much with their loony plans and i'll talk about that in a second please that that people

00:04:42.440 you know even in my own family for example they had their own favorite candidates you know professor cadre or

00:04:47.940 um mcguire all sorts of people but they finally realized holy smokes if we don't vote for the only

00:04:55.060 candidate that might beat her she could very win very well win the election and so when you actually look

00:05:01.340 at the numbers and i plotted them not only in a graph but i also plotted them uh over time to show how the

00:05:07.320 the change in other support just went to almost zero okay almost zero even shirelli went down to about

00:05:14.180 five percent cadre lost his support um singh went from something like seven or eight percent to

00:05:20.040 practically zero okay and what happened i think is all of these people who were supporting these third

00:05:25.940 fourth and fifth candidates suddenly said oh my god this katherine mckinney is gonna win and so they all 0.53

00:05:34.520 voted for sutcliffe and sutcliffe ended up getting more than 50 percent of the vote yeah okay and he beat

00:05:40.180 mckinney by oh 14 percent or something so that was a huge change i think the polling was correct

00:05:46.360 i think the polling showing that mckinney had the lead consistently was right but i think that her plan

00:05:53.540 just scared people so much now there are two parts of her plans that are are actually of a concern and

00:05:59.480 icsc actually has been publicizing the the terrible ottawa climate plan the 57.4 billion dollar climate plan

00:06:06.680 but the thing that she did also is she really promoted bicycle paths i'm not kidding she said

00:06:13.640 she was going to spend a quarter of a billion dollars on bicycle paths and it's interesting

00:06:20.180 because mark sutcliffe did something very smart he figured out okay all that money would have to be

00:06:26.180 borrowed because ottawa was miles in debt so what would be the interest charge over let's say 10 years

00:06:32.460 and he calculated that the final cost of the bicycle paths would be about 400 million dollars

00:06:39.220 now it was interesting because she was not only being attacked by sutcliffe on this point but she

00:06:44.840 was being attacked by ade olamy okay he didn't get a lot of support but at the same time he brought up

00:06:50.320 some really good points he said look we have a city that has a waiting list for drug rehab centers

00:06:56.740 we have people living under bridges and you're going to spend you know a quarter of a billion or

00:07:02.660 maybe 400 million on sort of cadillac bicycle paths i mean it's completely crazy and and you know i like

00:07:10.260 to think that our group played a major role in educating people about what this would what this

00:07:15.520 would um what would happen if if they really did what she wanted to do 710 industrial wind turbines 1.00

00:07:21.900 and you know one of the things i worked with a few people a few volunteers behind the scenes

00:07:27.380 before the debate started to talk about okay what are the important questions to bring up

00:07:32.500 because typically when they have public debates they just get softball questions you know things like

00:07:37.880 well how can we reduce greenhouse gases even more you know can we actually bike in the winter you know

00:07:43.440 things like that so what we did is we got together and we spoke about okay what would really impact

00:07:49.200 ottawans in this plan what's really important okay and we chose different topics and uh we we

00:07:56.280 actually different people chose topics that would fit their personality and it was quite interesting

00:08:01.300 because for example a french canadian lady she decided to talk about the the child mining in the

00:08:07.220 congo for cobalt to make the batteries for electric vehicles and she said i am a mother and a

00:08:14.240 grandmother and i do not want this to happen should ottawa be doing this and you know none of the

00:08:20.060 people on the panel especially mckinney had any clue about this issue it was totally you know they were

00:08:25.560 totally caught flat-footed so in the first three debates where they allowed questions directly from

00:08:31.260 the public i'd say that our group actually absorbed about about half of all the questions nice

00:08:38.300 yeah and i think this this must have shocked the the organizers now we were careful to not actually

00:08:45.480 support or oppose any candidate we're talking about policy right okay if mckinney's policy was rational

00:08:52.180 then she wouldn't have suffered as a result of the questions that we asked we also asked questions

00:08:57.480 like well ottawa produces about one one hundredth of one percent of world emissions and so and the

00:09:04.620 calculation was done in the u.s by a leading expert if we reduced our emissions to net zero and stay

00:09:10.440 that way all the way to the end of the 20 21st century the net change in temperature would be

00:09:16.440 about one ten thousandths of a degree so one of the people that was in our volunteer group he got to

00:09:22.520 the mic and he said so you're going to spend almost 60 billion dollars for one ten thousandths of a

00:09:28.120 degree what common sense does that make well what all the candidates said is well we're going to lead the

00:09:34.020 world and but of course we weren't allowed to have a second question so it was a later debate that we

00:09:39.720 brought up the fact that china was building call stations all over the world and china's not going

00:09:44.880 to follow ottawa but they stuck to their line much as i like dr cadry he said well china is going to

00:09:51.840 follow ottawa we're going to go we're going to go to the egypt cop 27 conference and we're going to

00:09:57.400 convince them that this is the way to go and you know it's interesting sheila uh when when he said that

00:10:02.900 somebody in the audience yelled out not gonna happen and and it was hilarious because rogers 1.00

00:10:10.800 censored the question they they censored the answer they censored all that stuff out they took out two

00:10:16.240 major questions from the debates which put the city in a bad light so there was huge amount of

00:10:22.240 censorship going on and you know you'd laugh that by the fourth debate i guess the organizers must have

00:10:27.760 think oh something's going on here like how often in a public debate do half of the people ask hard

00:10:34.180 questions now we weren't questioning the science and that was intentional because we didn't want to have

00:10:39.700 people uh dismiss us as deniers what we wanted to is people to feel the pain that would be coming

00:10:46.880 if this ottawa plan came in and the point that i brought up in the first debate actually the microphone

00:10:52.380 was you realize that 700 people died in texas during the february 2021 cold snap because wind power

00:11:01.160 failed and yet you're pushing ottawa to the same kind of situation as texas but it gets a lot colder

00:11:07.660 in ottawa now mckinney responded by saying well she didn't think that wind power played a major role in

00:11:14.240 the campaign and uh but we went later and we we checked and of course wind power is triple solar she said

00:11:21.060 solar was more so in the third debate one of the members of our team a very brave lady she got to 1.00

00:11:27.440 the mic and she read mckinney's quote and then she read the part of the plan that you know she interpreted

00:11:33.680 that showed that she was totally wrong so the lady asked mckinney this question and you can see why

00:11:40.480 rogers deleted it the question was did you vote for a 57 billion dollar plan without reading it first

00:11:48.240 and so i think we did have a significant impact you know we we did other things lots of interviews you

00:11:55.540 know presentations zoom talks being careful not to support or oppose any candidate and um we also

00:12:01.980 handed out you know flyers and things like that always talking about not the science but the pain of the

00:12:08.260 ottawa climate plan and various people are telling me that this did have an impact i mean it made people

00:12:14.100 think about it at the ward level i went to the ward debate uh for our local councillor and you'd laugh

00:12:20.780 to hear what happened uh i got up to start talking about the cost of the plan and everything else

00:12:26.200 and the very left-wing candidate he's an ndp person jumped up and he started yelling at me

00:12:32.020 i wasn't even finished my question and he said you know you're a climate change denier and everything

00:12:37.180 else and he was trying to shut me up the audience of course jumped in as well and they're all yelling

00:12:41.740 at this denier and then they noticed i was not wearing a mask oh my goodness oh they went berserk

00:12:48.880 you know get out of here unless you put on your mask at first so i told them i said well it's not

00:12:54.020 required anymore it's recommended but the city has rules and the rules say that you don't have to wear it

00:12:59.160 no no no and the organizer came over and yelled at me and so eventually i put on the mask just to shut

00:13:05.300 them up but by then they could say oh your time for asking a question is up sit down so i got an email

00:13:13.000 actually the next day from the city of ottawa basically telling me i was right so there was a

00:13:18.260 huge amount of censorship going on um not just in the way the debates were set up but also in the fact

00:13:24.380 that if you disagreed but something really interesting happened i did get enough out that by the end of that

00:13:31.220 debate none of the candidates in the ward were actually supporting the ottawa climate plan in fact

00:13:37.380 even the ndp said ndp guy said almost 60 billion dollars he said you know when i saw that my eyes

00:13:44.960 just rolled i thought that's like crazy and one of the candidates told me that in the later debates in

00:13:50.740 our ward which i didn't bother going to he said you realize none of the candidates were supporting the

00:13:56.900 ottawa climate plan anymore because the issue of cost had been brought up in a well i brought it up

00:14:03.100 in a pretty solid way and none of them wanted to identify with it and you know it's interesting

00:14:07.820 sheila after the fourth debate um maybe the fifth yeah the fifth debate for the mayors bob shirelli

00:14:14.960 came up to me afterwards and he said you know the ottawa climate plan is dead now he was a former mayor

00:14:21.060 okay so let's hope he's right let's hope he's right because just like you say sutcliffe um he won more

00:14:27.600 than half the vote he's got you know only 44 percent of people voted but still you know he did have an

00:14:32.720 overwhelming uh victory um we're hoping that because he's not a climate fanatic like mckinney that he'll

00:14:40.080 actually allow open hearings you know bringing in people economists and engineers and others to talk

00:14:45.920 about what would be the impact if we actually did this right versus the payoff yeah like 57 and a half

00:14:53.480 billion dollars what's the payoff hoping beijing follows along with what ottawa's doing imagine the

00:14:59.600 narcissism in thinking that that's right well it's it's all virtue signaling and it's extremely important

00:15:06.280 and totally useless sorry extremely dangerous and expensive and useless um virtue signaling because

00:15:13.440 china is simply not going to follow us and you know the organizers in the third debate they actually 0.98

00:15:18.120 eliminated from the debate everybody who actually had been strongly against mckinney's climate plan

00:15:24.580 you know for example uh mike mcguire he was eliminated from the fourth debate same thing with 0.99

00:15:29.840 ade alamid now in ade's case he's a black fellow who was very outspoken about the bike paths being stupid 0.95

00:15:36.220 he actually had a written commitment from the organizers to be in the debate he accepted it and they still 0.96

00:15:43.200 eliminated him and you know so there's a lot of corruption in this election something that

00:15:47.740 really has to be looked at i think for future elections ade has actually registered a complaint

00:15:53.460 and his objective is to try to clean up the process so we were actually you know ottawa dodged a bullet

00:15:59.540 because everything was stacked in favor of mckinney winning the structure of the debates the fact that

00:16:05.820 the first four debates were all climate change that they eliminated candidates they censored

00:16:10.760 questions etc etc and she's still lost so that actually gives a pretty powerful message i think

00:16:17.420 to other politicians that if you come across too strongly in favor of woke climate change

00:16:22.880 the average person is going to get a little uncomfortable and in this case mckinney's support

00:16:28.360 didn't drop but suck cliffs went through the roof so i think what happened very clearly is that people

00:16:33.840 were frightened by her and thank goodness they were i am a little frightened by her generally speaking

00:16:39.640 um and it became a pretty evident by that fourth debate that they really were doing everything they

00:16:45.740 could to stack it in her favor including bringing in a true believer from the cbc as their unbiased

00:16:52.800 moderator yeah in fact he even said in the in the debate he said well all scientists agree didn't say

00:16:58.300 like 80 or 90 he said all the experts agree that we're in dire peril and i thought oh yeah that's

00:17:05.880 a really neutral you know share person so so that was crazy so i mean i think it was really a wake-up

00:17:12.320 call to politicians that if you go too far on the climate thing yeah people will be shocked and they

00:17:18.560 will naturally not vote for you um you know so so i think that we had an impact we brought this to

00:17:24.660 public attention we we've been doing it of course for years we put out a report in january but it

00:17:30.300 suddenly became really relevant because as the only candidate who was currently on the council

00:17:36.040 she was the only candidate who was really responsible for the plan and when people started

00:17:41.240 looking at what the heck say this is crazy you know um so i think it's actually a good lesson for

00:17:48.080 conservatives that if you properly publicize the issue you know you give presentations and you don't

00:17:53.740 back down you're not scared you go to these events you hand out flyers you talk to hundreds of people

00:17:58.920 that you can actually stop the extreme climate people from getting in well i don't by the way i

00:18:05.640 don't pretend that we stopped by ourselves there were a lot of factors um but i think we played a

00:18:10.900 significant role you know another factor that played a very big role is just before the election

00:18:16.160 the ottawa police association came out and yeah very strongly condemned mckinney for her defund

00:18:23.660 the police her accusations that the police were racist and all this sort of thing i was shocked

00:18:29.100 when i saw it i mean i was happy to see it but i was really surprised that the ottawa police association

00:18:34.480 and they said it's funny because at the end of their little dialogue they said oh but we're not

00:18:38.940 supporting or opposing a candidate after giving us three straight minutes of how horrible mckinney was

00:18:45.140 you know and i mean even we didn't do that because of course we're not promoting a candidate or

00:18:49.760 opposing one we want to see good policies and you know once again if she had good policies it's fine 0.99

00:18:55.800 you know she wouldn't have been damaged by the public learning about her plans and about the city's

00:19:00.820 plans so you know we're careful not to actually um tell people who to vote for there is a real

00:19:09.020 lesson in here as you say for conservatives and i've been sort of banging this drum for the last

00:19:14.040 two years maybe a little longer but particularly because of the pandemic restrictions many of that

00:19:20.180 patchwork pieces of that patchwork quilt of lockdown restrictions those were done at the hands of your

00:19:26.000 local municipal politicians and you know that's why it's so important to have people there who truly

00:19:31.600 believe in freedom but also people who will look at a 70 no sorry a 57 and a half billion dollar

00:19:40.000 municipal climate plan and say where's the payoff for the taxpayer here you know you're not going to

00:19:46.760 save the planet and i think that's what i like about what you did there you framed it in a way that

00:19:52.520 no matter what side of the climate change debate that you're on how do you justify spending this much

00:20:00.620 money to virtue signal and really make no impact either way at the bitter end of it all i think that was

00:20:07.960 really important because you were able to capture people from all sides of the argument yeah exactly

00:20:13.220 and we'll put out a science report we actually have had it in the wings for for a few months it's

00:20:17.860 been ready but we didn't want to put it out because we didn't want to taint our message sure our message

00:20:22.960 was very straightforward you know it's interesting sheila in the fifth debate where they wouldn't take 0.74

00:20:27.600 questions from the public i went up to the microphone i went you know after they uh had finished the

00:20:32.480 debate i went up to ask katherine mckinney if she'd read our report and as i approached the stage she

00:20:38.380 saw me so as soon as she finished with one of her supporters she started walking off really quickly 0.99

00:20:42.840 and finally she went behind a black screen and i called out i said uh katherine uh excuse me katherine

00:20:50.660 and she said no no no and she ran away and i thought wow like that's not very accountable and of course

00:20:58.000 i reported that in my articles because the other candidates they all hung around for a good half

00:21:02.600 hour talking and you know like you say mark sutcliffe is somewhat of a climate alarmist himself

00:21:07.660 but he's a reasonable person you know like he actually spoke with me as a normal human being you

00:21:13.820 know he knew i disagreed with him but it didn't matter he spoke with me and lots of other people

00:21:18.160 so i think it's a it's a very positive development having someone come in who's not a politician

00:21:23.520 that's actually good you know i think that's what happened with trump he sort of actually came in

00:21:28.800 not a politician's it was it's a breath of fresh air and i think we're going to see a really good

00:21:33.980 development come out of him and i think now the potential exists for us to get them to drop the plan

00:21:39.900 entirely and that's of course going to be our goal when we release the science report because

00:21:44.400 Sutcliffe yeah it's pretty decent guy and the other people cadre and shirelli they were all very

00:21:49.520 friendly too so i think to some extent catherine shot herself in the foot not only by running away

00:21:55.580 because of course she wasn't talking to anybody else either but also because she pushed these plans

00:22:00.540 that it only appealed to the hardcore climate activists in her base the average person would say

00:22:07.140 that's crazy yeah yeah and we know how catherine mckinney feels about normal people based on how she 0.93

00:22:14.440 treated those people in the convoy who were just there to ask for an end to vaccine mandates and

00:22:20.020 other covid restrictions now sorry you'd laugh sheila one other quick thing she wanted all of us to call 0.99

00:22:26.420 her they and uh i did for a while but then somebody wrote me an email saying what are you doing she's

00:22:33.980 only one person she's not plural so i stopped doing it you know so i mean i think that also didn't help

00:22:39.600 her you know the fact that she was getting all excited about so odd wanting people to call her

00:22:44.320 they them there you know it's such a weird idea she's such an odd woman i watched a lot of her

00:22:51.160 testimony from the trucker commission oh yeah and she would wander the streets filming the truckers

00:22:58.960 and i frankly hoped she never stopped because she didn't see what everybody else saw you know she's

00:23:06.760 wandering the street saying look at these truckers invading our cities and i'm looking thinking okay

00:23:11.160 well right behind you is an open lane of traffic that's great i don't hear any horn honkings that's

00:23:16.840 great and you're able to wander the streets bad-mouthing truckers while the truckers are in the background

00:23:21.620 just looking at you like you're a crazy person not saying a single word to you so apparently you can

00:23:27.560 wander the streets without being harassed everything she showed uh only reaffirmed my position that uh the 0.66

00:23:35.240 convoy was relatively peaceful but moving along this is the time of year where you and i normally

00:23:41.120 meet at a fancy locale somewhere in the more exotic parts of the world um like madrid or berlin and this

00:23:48.860 year is egypt neither one of us are going you're busy with other things i didn't think it was safe for

00:23:54.160 me to go because i wasn't accredited with the united nations which didn't give me the same protections

00:23:59.620 as the other journalists there um because the only the true believing journalists can get into the

00:24:05.720 united nations complex so just for the safety of our team we decided not to go this year but this is

00:24:11.380 where the gathering of the globalists happens to decide how much money in climate tithes the rest of

00:24:20.940 the world has to pay to the climate cult what what do you think is going to come out of egypt this year

00:24:27.040 well it's a good question i don't think we're going to see any new greenhouse gas reduction targets

00:24:32.400 i don't think we're going to see that but the the whole objective of this conference is like you say

00:24:37.400 it's money it's money because india for example has said that if they're not paid one trillion dollars

00:24:43.800 up front they're not going to pay any attention to their greenhouse gas emission reduction targets

00:24:48.760 okay i'll take that deal you know what yes fine no money no money and you don't care about climate

00:24:56.000 change and i'm happy what's the what's the problem so we can save the money and they can go ahead and

00:25:01.560 industrialize and bring their people out of poverty perfect deal yeah but you know there's three main

00:25:07.460 flows of money it's first of all mitigation trying to stop climate change and that one is actually

00:25:12.720 fairly well established as to how much we're supposed to pay supposed to be 100 billion a year

00:25:17.840 starting in 2020 100 billion a year coming from developed countries to developing countries to

00:25:24.340 supposedly help them stop climate change you know reducing emissions things like that but but it

00:25:29.420 hasn't happened okay it just simply hasn't happened and i don't think it's going to happen now the

00:25:34.360 second one is uh adaptation and the third one is uh loss and damage and that's the nine thousand

00:25:41.440 pound gorilla in the room okay that could be literally many trillions of dollars but i'll just give

00:25:47.180 you one other number that'll blow your mind the um african group of countries they want to get 0.86

00:25:52.640 1.3 trillion dollars per year between let's see i'll just check the number the actual dates uh it's

00:26:00.020 important because it does give a number for canada okay here we go they want to get 1.3 trillion per

00:26:06.440 year between 2025 and 2030 with further increases uh beyond that now they haven't actually decided how

00:26:14.960 it would be a proportion to different countries who would pay how much but if they do it based on

00:26:20.520 GDP it turns out that canada's share would be 54 billion dollars per year in canadian dollars okay

00:26:29.020 that first number was american and that's two-thirds as high as the federal government's 84 billion

00:26:34.800 dollar equalization payments and it works out to about 1400 per year for every canadian to just pay

00:26:41.540 for the demands of the african countries so what's going to happen of course is they're not going to get

00:26:47.620 the money and so i think that by the end of the conference we won't have any significant

00:26:52.920 agreements for emissions reduction um they might promise a lot more money but i i really can't see

00:26:58.880 even trudeau um paying 54 billion every year to the africans you know like it it's just a bit loony

00:27:05.620 but but that's going to be the main focus okay give us the cash that's what they want and as i said

00:27:11.760 before the 9 000 pound gorilla in the room is loss and damage okay that comes from the warsaw loss and

00:27:17.380 damage part of the different u.n agreements what they want what they want us to do is to pay for the

00:27:24.640 uh reparations to pay for the recovery from extreme weather events in developing countries now the

00:27:31.600 interesting thing about this sheila is there's no actual statute of limitations they're not saying well

00:27:36.300 before the year 2000 you don't have to pay anything they could go back to hurricane high end or they

00:27:42.300 could go back to previous tornadoes and and typhoons and say well you owe us for a typhoon that happened

00:27:48.900 in 1996 because you clearly caused it you know so so that if it ever gets to fruition if we ever see

00:27:56.800 that come about it's going to make these numbers i just said sound small because we're talking about

00:28:02.060 many trillions of dollars but i think honestly the whole thing is going to fall apart oh my goodness

00:28:08.120 tom from your lips to god's ears they tell me this isn't a cult but it sounds a lot like superstition

00:28:13.240 when i hear things like generational guilt for weather events that have no scientific tie to my suv

00:28:21.560 that may have happened 30 years ago that i have to pay for today that seems like a religious

00:28:29.240 superstition to me yeah well you know the interesting thing also is that the science is not

00:28:34.520 there i mean if you look at documents like this which is climate change reconsidered this is the

00:28:39.500 most recent one it talks about the benefits of fossil fuels what it has done for us and it's done a great

00:28:44.700 deal they also talk about the climate issue and you know it turns out during cold weather during colder

00:28:50.680 times when we saw more extreme weather even the chinese academy of sciences they did analysis of

00:28:56.380 sediments on the bottom of the pacific ocean and they showed that typhoons were stronger and more

00:29:01.760 common during the little ice age during the cold period so the whole i you know i mean the science

00:29:07.060 just isn't there to back up what they're saying um and we want to start bringing this kind of thing

00:29:11.940 into future debates you know so i encourage listeners if in your city in your town they're coming

00:29:18.400 forward with crazy climate plans like in calgary we'd be happy to help out because you know we actually

00:29:25.100 did raise public awareness in ottawa significantly and i do think that had a significant impact on

00:29:30.780 people sort of scratching their heads and saying wow do we really want this so so we'd like to do

00:29:36.540 this across canada actually is as i say people should contact us we can help them out there's great

00:29:42.280 strategies to make sure you get your questions in and what you do when they try not to answer and of

00:29:48.680 course the response is that you have to interrupt them you have to say my question is dunk my question

00:29:54.800 is dunk you're not answering my question you have to be a lot more dogmatic and you know it's it's sad

00:30:00.840 because the organizers wouldn't like that of course because they say you're not following our rules

00:30:05.620 but they're talking about the destruction of a city and the death of thousands of people i mean i'm not

00:30:12.020 too worried about their rules under circumstances like that you know if you look at what like we were

00:30:16.580 talking about last time alinsky's rules for radicals right yeah let's start applying those against the

00:30:23.120 extreme woke leftists in the climate debate and again i'd be happy to help others do this in other

00:30:28.940 cities you know the left does this all the time they used to do it with the pipeline uh public

00:30:33.600 hearings lead now would organize activists to come and their campaign was called mob the mic and they

00:30:40.000 would just make it impossible for anybody with anything reasonable to say to take the mic and say you

00:30:46.640 know what that we want the pipeline it's great for jobs now you'd have these outside activists from the

00:30:52.140 likes of vancouver taking over the microphone in terrorist bc or wherever you're actually proposing

00:30:58.440 something a lot more reasonable actual residents of a municipality who live there who are not low

00:31:05.120 liability activists this they will pay the price of these climate change policies going and being 0.76

00:31:11.540 actively engaged with politicians in their community at public open debates where exactly these

00:31:18.620 discussions are supposed to take place it's just that so often conservatives are just too busy paying

00:31:23.760 the bills and doing things with their kids to turn up to these things and that time i think has passed

00:31:29.540 yeah because they're relying on how busy we are to get these things right well also this ottawa climate

00:31:36.280 plan was snuck through right during the covid thing eh definitely there were no public hearings calgary same way

00:31:42.700 yeah and it's so it's really dishonest in that sense but you know people who don't want to get to

00:31:47.880 the mic and risk the abuse from the audience and everything there's still things they can do and that

00:31:53.320 is go to these events and cheer for the good questions you know when people actually ask good

00:31:58.740 things you say hey good question you know clap clap clap because i mean think about it let's say i go to

00:32:04.100 the mic and you know i go to these events quite often all across you know different hearings from the

00:32:09.720 intero government etc i'll go to the mic and i'll be the only one bringing up dissenting points of

00:32:16.180 view and you know you get nobody in the audience clap you might get quite a few boos how seriously is

00:32:22.100 the panelist going to take you not that seriously but if you go to the mic and you ask a question and

00:32:27.500 the audience erupts in applause yep and then the next person asks another hard question and the next

00:32:33.480 person and the next person would they start to take it seriously and this is alinsky's first rule

00:32:38.700 a you have to make it look like your group your you know your side in the political argument is big

00:32:44.240 and strong the trucker effect this is the trucker effect yeah exactly so so i think yeah it's way past

00:32:51.140 time for conservatives to start attending these events and at the very least cheer for the volunteers

00:32:56.520 that get up and ask the hard questions because it takes a fair bit of courage to do that you know

00:33:01.740 but at the same time if you don't do it the left will just ruin your society thousands will die will

00:33:08.100 be frozen in the dark you know so the alternative is a lot worse well and let me give some advice to

00:33:14.300 those people taking to the mic you know who is more scared than you are because it is intimidating

00:33:19.240 to speak truth to power and to hold politicians to account it can be it's nerve-wracking you know

00:33:23.980 who's more scared the politician you're about to ask a question to because this might be the first

00:33:29.660 time in a long time they took an unscripted unfriendly question and they are already rattled

00:33:35.480 before you open your mouth that's right and and if you look at the video the third debate uh no second

00:33:41.540 debate in canada the one where that lady asked about the cobalt oh you can just see that they don't know

00:33:46.840 what to say because if they say oh i don't care about the children i want electric buses and cobalt

00:33:51.120 from the tongo they look terrible if they say oh well i don't want electric buses they look terrible

00:33:56.100 so yeah you you basically catch them in their own policy failures basically right now tom first

00:34:04.980 couple of questions how do people support the work that you're doing at international climate science

00:34:09.800 coalition canada and secondarily if they are in one of these unfortunate municipalities bringing

00:34:15.760 forward one of these crazy climate policies that will cost you billions of dollars and will force your

00:34:20.840 great grandchildren into energy poverty how do they get in touch with you for some help organizing

00:34:26.520 those questions at the mic well the way to go is to get to our home page which is icsc-canada.com

00:34:34.600 and there's a connect button it'll give you my email address which is icsc.tom.harris

00:34:40.560 at gmail.com and you can either email me or phone me it's you know my phone number's on there as well

00:34:46.120 and i'd be happy to help out but uh yeah people can help us because we rely entirely you can be sure

00:34:51.240 the government's not funding us when we when we say what we say um people can help us whether it's

00:34:56.460 fifteen dollars or fifteen hundred dollars i mean it's all you know thankful we we're very appreciative

00:35:01.800 and you can donate the big donate button on our home page and help us do this because we want to do

00:35:07.820 this across canada we want conservatives to be organized to know how to fight back and um yeah our

00:35:14.040 ottawa experience was a kind of a pilot study to show what you can do to raise the awareness of

00:35:20.020 issues in a population and you know from that point of view we succeeded well and expose how little the

00:35:26.360 politicians actually know about the very things that they're voting for you to pay for yeah but so many

00:35:32.560 of them flat-footed they hadn't given even something beyond the surface level they hadn't even thought

00:35:37.880 about the issue um and uh every little bit helps when you donate to the international climate science

00:35:44.100 coalition canada because you are non-funded by the government you're really non-partisan you're just

00:35:51.120 advocating for the policy issues and you are up against all that foreign money flowing into those

00:35:58.320 environmentalist organizations you are just a small group of people battling billions and dollars

00:36:04.260 of foreign money flowing into canada as we found out in the uh alberta inquiry

00:36:09.360 yeah exactly and but we have the right on our side i mean we are we're correct in what we're saying

00:36:16.740 okay there is no climate crisis this is a huge waste of money it's going to kill thousands of people

00:36:21.620 we're going to freeze in the dark i mean that's the results of not standing up against this so we want

00:36:27.380 to help other people stand up against it so yeah thanks for promoting us you got it tom i love the work

00:36:33.520 that you do i can't see what you do next and where you'll do it next but i'll have you back on again

00:36:38.980 very very soon so you can tell me okay thank you thanks tom

00:36:42.440 well friends we've come to the portion of the show where unlike the mainstream media we actually

00:36:54.680 invite your viewer feedback because we care about what you think about the work that we're doing also

00:36:59.720 unlike the mainstream media will never take a penny from justin trudeau it's funny hey they they take

00:37:06.640 your money and then they close their comment section they don't even want to hear from you

00:37:10.260 that's not what we do here at rebel news and that's why i give you my email address

00:37:13.600 at the end of the show it's sheila at rebelnews.com if you want to send me any sort of viewer feedback

00:37:20.220 that's the best way to do it please put gun show letters in the subject line though so that i can find it

00:37:26.120 because i'm not exaggerating here i get a couple hundred emails a day and i just don't want yours

00:37:31.420 to get lost in the shuffle now today's viewer feedback comes to us from bruce atchison it's

00:37:37.940 regular viewer of the show regular writer of letters to me bruce has a cat if i recall correctly

00:37:44.300 and he lives in beautiful radway alberta and if you need a reason to go to radway let me tell you

00:37:49.720 they've got a really great army surplus store there um or at least they did and it it's worth

00:37:55.980 your while to drive there anyway bruce writes hi sheila i'm sorry about your cold that's right last

00:38:02.880 week you people had to suffer through my scratchy voice after i had recently lost it because i was

00:38:09.180 just smacked by a cold anyways he offers me some health advice good host iced tea with hot water help

00:38:15.660 me stay awake and get things done whenever i had colds i also remember you in my prayers well

00:38:19.920 thank you i think that's even better than your health advice bruce anyway bruce goes on i'm

00:38:25.000 thoroughly enjoying this inquiry into the trucker convoy in the enactment of the emergencies act

00:38:29.720 the sunlight of rebel news reporting is showing the infection of corruption in our governments i also

00:38:34.800 wonder what excuse trudeau will try to get out of the inquiry doubtless it will involve another case of

00:38:41.140 covet 19 yeah the more trudeau gets his booster shots the more he just conveniently comes down

00:38:46.000 with covet anytime he has to face any sort of scrutiny or accountability and there's even another

00:38:54.060 politician in the mix of all of this who uh i want to be surprised at his attempts to skirt

00:39:01.100 accountability but unfortunately after the last two and a half years i'm not surprised whatsoever and

00:39:05.460 that's doug ford he's currently fighting a subpoena to appear before the convoy commission

00:39:12.660 and uh my friend tamir eulini was in court on tuesday covering all of that and you can see her

00:39:20.700 reportage from the courtroom at trucker commission.com or dot ca in fact you can see all of our coverage of

00:39:29.960 trucker commission at that special website trucker commission.com or dot ca and you can support our

00:39:35.720 independent coverage there as i pointed out earlier we don't take a penny from justin trudeau and we

00:39:40.760 have all hands on deck covering this thing what's called the public order emergency commission in

00:39:48.360 ottawa we've got a team in ottawa we're cycling journalists through as relief we've got an airbnb

00:39:53.800 as a satellite studio there too and i know my i have two colleagues from alberta as i'm filming

00:40:01.600 this who are on a flight headed to ottawa to relieve some of the team there well everybody that's the

00:40:08.080 show for tonight thank you so much for tuning in i'll see everybody back here in the same time in the

00:40:12.600 same place next week and as always remember do not let the government tell you that you've had too much

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Rebel News Podcast - November 02, 2022

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ A rare win for common sense in Ottawa

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