Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Alberta's independence movement nears a turning point — what comes after the signatures？

00:00:00.000 it's all over but the signature counting what happens next for alberta's independence

00:00:21.480 referendum movement i'm sheila gun reid and you're watching the gun show

00:00:30.000 if you're on alberta x right now we're on alberta facebook right now you are seeing

00:00:38.720 independence canvassers hanging up their badges after a 120 day long haul through some oppressive

00:00:47.020 winter weather after they spent those months collecting signatures they need to collect about

00:00:55.140 roughly 177,000 of them to trigger a referendum on independence October 19th and once those

00:01:07.280 signatures are verified then the campaign shifts into the yes no campaigning side and I think

00:01:14.720 that's going to get a little bit rough but to bring us the nitty-gritty on what's happening

00:01:19.800 now and what's happening next is someone you already know. It's Keith Wilson, Freedom Convoy

00:01:26.280 lawyer and independence advocate. Take a listen. So joining me now is Keith Wilson, independence

00:01:38.100 advocate. And of course, you know him as one of the key lawyers from the Freedom Convoy. And I

00:01:43.040 wanted to get an update on the independence efforts now as we approach the end of the

00:01:51.040 signature collection period. So, Keith, before we get going on everything, what happens next,

00:01:59.060 you know, what the federal government is doing to exacerbate independence-minded people into,

00:02:04.940 you know, casting a vote on October 19th, but where are we right now in the independence efforts?

00:02:13.040 Sure. Well, there's the specific step that's occurring over the coming days is the final counting internally by Stay Free Alberta and Mitch Sylvester's group on the petition calling on the Smith government to hold an independence referendum in October.

00:02:32.760 and um that that counting's occurring boxes of signature seats are being delivered to their

00:02:41.860 headquarters uh being gathered up so it's the final hustle of gather and deliver and count

00:02:48.680 um you know we've had remarkable weather throughout the entirety of this thing like these

00:02:56.120 these everybody thought the last couple weeks the weather would be nice and we had two blizzards

00:03:01.600 across the province people stranded on highways for 20 hours um so i i don't i my view is the

00:03:10.880 numbers are probably not gonna like blow everybody's socks off that's just my sense i don't know what

00:03:16.060 the numbers are but i think that that weather's been a huge factor but there's another really

00:03:21.460 important factor that i've run into so many times which is fear yeah you know the the move that the

00:03:28.760 federal government did in 2022 in freezing Tamara Leach's and Chris Barber and the other

00:03:35.200 Freedom Convoy leaders' bank accounts. And I was there, you know, witnessing that firsthand and

00:03:40.300 have lawsuits outstanding against the federal government for those unlawful bank freezes.

00:03:45.360 That has created such a chilling effect, a lasting chilling effect that so many people have said and

00:03:52.200 so many canvassers have reported that people are afraid. They want, they support independence.

00:03:56.960 They're going to vote yes, but they're afraid to sign and put their name on that list for the petition out of fear that the government tyrants will use their powers to freeze bank accounts.

00:04:10.700 And what an indictment of the state that Canada has become.

00:04:14.780 Yeah, that's a reason to leave.

00:04:16.000 If you cannot exercise your democratic rights for fear that the state will drop the hammer on you and ruin you financially, that's a state you don't want to be a part of.

00:04:27.600 And I also have noted that some of the locations where independence events are booked are being canceled last minute.

00:04:38.400 And I'm not saying in the small towns, but in the big cities, the progressive held hellscapes of Edmonton and to some extent Calgary.

00:04:46.220 They're canceling these independence events where they booked in advance.

00:04:51.880 Everybody knows why they're going to be there.

00:04:53.340 Everybody knows why Chris Scott's going to be there.

00:04:55.680 And then they cancel them.

00:04:56.820 sort of last minute which does have a again a chilling effect on the signature collection

00:05:02.640 yes and and and it shows a fear of uh free free political expression and a fear that

00:05:11.100 once people are exposed to the advantages of independence and the uh disadvantages and the

00:05:19.320 very dark path that canada's on and the option for us our children or grandchildren to free

00:05:25.340 ourselves from that dark future uh they get worried that more and more people will get on

00:05:30.940 board you know one of the things that i wanted to clarify sheila is um we need to keep in mind

00:05:36.480 we don't know what's going to happen with the court case that a few of the first nations have

00:05:40.880 brought and it's only i think three first nations chiefs the number of first nations

00:05:45.680 canvassers yes uh in support of independence the number of first nations that have come forward

00:05:51.920 in Métis to sign and express their serious concern about the hundreds of thousands of dollars that

00:05:59.940 these few chiefs are spending on lawyers instead of helping their people to fight this petition

00:06:05.900 is remarkable. But I don't know what the court's going to do. I don't think there's a good legal

00:06:11.840 factual basis. I've talked about this many times. There's no threat to the treaties.

00:06:15.580 the 1930 natural resources transfer agreement demonstrates uh that that uh another level of

00:06:22.160 government can step in and take over treaty responsibilities the treaties themselves

00:06:26.680 don't aren't just with the crown it says with his majesty the king and all successors and assigns so

00:06:34.600 it always suggested that the federal government could hand off treaty responsibilities to another

00:06:39.760 entity another level of government or a new government in any event what if the court does

00:06:45.460 come up with some very, what I would call, strange decision and stop or somehow wipe out

00:06:54.360 the signature collection process by Stay Free Alberta. The reason I'm not overly concerned

00:06:59.900 about that, I'd be disappointed and find it troubling, but the reason I'm not concerned

00:07:04.000 about it is because Thomas Lukasik was successful in triggering the threshold for a referendum,

00:07:11.460 not a vote in the legislature he's now trying to get out of this huge cell phone that he did it's

00:07:18.720 brilliant karma but um he's now trying to say oh i just wanted to vote in the legislature no you

00:07:24.560 didn't you're i put up on the social media and others have his actual application for but uses

00:07:31.300 the word referendum twice and it says by signing this petition i'm calling on the alberta government

00:07:36.420 to hold a referendum on whether Alberta should stay or leave Canada.

00:07:42.400 That's an independence succession referendum.

00:07:45.920 So the Premier already has a mandate to hold, in my view, a referendum in the fall.

00:07:51.360 And some people have said, oh, well, then they're going to have to use his wording.

00:07:55.740 That's not true.

00:07:57.420 The reason it's not true legally is the wording for the referendum on independence in October

00:08:03.740 will be determined by the Alberta government's cabinet

00:08:08.120 under the Referendum Act.

00:08:10.860 So the Citizens Initiative Act provides a mechanism

00:08:13.640 to flag to the government, the provincial government saying,

00:08:16.740 hey, this is an issue, this issue that's important to us,

00:08:21.220 we want you to put it on a referendum,

00:08:23.320 and here's how we, the citizens, would frame the question.

00:08:26.700 But there's a different legal obligation on the cabinet

00:08:29.800 under the Referendum Act to consider constitutional principles and other things when selecting the

00:08:36.080 wording of the question. So the ultimate party who determines the wording of the question is

00:08:40.820 the cabinet, and they're not directly bound by the wording of the question from the petitioners.

00:08:47.020 So the Smith government will have to review what question they put on the ballot for

00:08:54.900 independence. And I think they should pick a form of question that's as compliant as possible with

00:09:01.000 the Supreme Court of Canada's decision and the Clarity Act, which is a question very similar to

00:09:06.860 which Stay Free Alberta's question is. So I'm not losing any sleep over these things.

00:09:14.300 I think the important task is for us to continue to talk as Albertans about the dangers of staying

00:09:20.520 in Canada for our kids and our grandkids and the advantages of becoming independent and the

00:09:25.780 viability of that path. Right. And for people who are on the fence, maybe you don't believe in a

00:09:33.960 Alberta utopia. This is your chance to stick it to Mark Carney and tell him to go F himself. Like

00:09:40.500 this is your one chance to do this for a generation, to send a message to the Laurentian elites that

00:09:48.080 that we don't agree with what they've done to what was left of this beautiful country

00:09:56.040 in the last 11 years. And man, I'm just so excited to cheer for Thomas Lukasik's

00:10:02.860 hapless buffoonery. It's just wonderful. Just moving on to what happens next. So we've got

00:10:13.700 the petition signatures let's say uh they they clear the bar for entry to the referendum what

00:10:21.300 happens next so it instead of signatures shipped into active campaigning what are we going to see

00:10:28.700 what is that going to look like well the official campaign period won't begin uh until um the

00:10:36.620 cabinet issues an order under the referendum act setting the question and that's obviously going to

00:10:41.040 take some time and in the meantime it's just a normal democracy political free expression and

00:10:46.720 advocacy and anybody with a view on any topic is free to express it uh is free to open up a website

00:10:53.540 to talk about it is free to put up a billboard uh to advocate their view or or do whatever they do

00:10:59.800 hold town hall meetings and so on so i think you're going to continue to see lots of different

00:11:03.900 groups because there's several out there um um and there's new ones popping up all the time

00:11:09.660 that will continue to try and inform people about the advantages of independence and its viability

00:11:16.180 uh and the dangers of staying in canada um and i think that you're going to see see that ramp up

00:11:23.140 and we're going to see the voices of no the project fear get louder and louder and louder

00:11:32.060 the people who say that this can't be done it will ruin everything uh excuse me what's the

00:11:37.200 difference for people who say like oh the interest rates are going to go out of control and you're

00:11:42.740 going to have out of control inflation and you won't be able to get a pipeline built yeah thanks

00:11:47.160 that's now so we're gonna have a lot of people on the federalist side trying to scare people

00:11:52.500 away from their own future yeah and i mean uh they're going to do project fear um and it's

00:11:59.560 ironic because anytime they try this project fear, it doesn't stand even a superficial level

00:12:07.160 of analysis. And let me just give you a couple of quick examples. One is the federalists have

00:12:15.600 argued and Ottawa has said, if Alberta were to become independent, you'd be so vulnerable in

00:12:19.940 your trade relationship with the United States, you wouldn't have any leverage. Meanwhile,

00:12:25.700 Well, Carney's absolutely blowing his negotiations with the largest economy in the world, our largest trading partner as a country, a country in a market that allows Canada, has allowed Canada to have the standard living that Canadians have had.

00:12:44.140 And now that things are on the rocks, because Carney's such a poor negotiator, and the ideological extremists in Ottawa have let ideology prevail over practical reality, Minister Hodgson, federal minister, announced last week that they have a plan.

00:13:04.180 They have a plan for Canada to get leverage in their negotiations with the United States under Kuzma.

00:13:12.020 And that plan is to leverage Alberta's oil industry, our energy industry.

00:13:16.460 So my head exploded.

00:13:17.820 I tweeted about this.

00:13:18.800 The irony, they're saying, oh, Alberta can't separate because you'll be so vulnerable to the United States.

00:13:23.700 You'll have no leverage in your negotiations.

00:13:26.080 Canada is now looking for negotiations as a nation, and they can't find any leverage but for Alberta's wealth.

00:13:33.380 so it just demonstrates the merits and the strength of our position the other thing is

00:13:38.560 they keep talking about people keep raising these ideas that the other provinces are some

00:13:44.360 going to how going to retaliate they're not understanding the factual reality and the

00:13:49.940 strength of Alberta you know Doug Ford apparently I'm told by multiple reports did not Premier Ford

00:13:56.880 did not realize when he threatened to cut off electricity to the United States several months

00:14:04.380 ago when things flared up in the auto patch, he did not realize that the pipeline supplying the

00:14:10.820 bulk of energy that goes to the refineries and airports and fuel stations in Ontario goes through

00:14:17.720 the United States, starts in Alberta, and didn't seem to realize that Trump could just send a

00:14:23.220 couple of county sheriffs into a compressor station and say shut it down right uh it's just

00:14:29.760 they're so much of the rest of canada is so oblivious to the raw economic horsepower of

00:14:39.580 alberta and our strategic position for them right and and the americans realize that we supply

00:14:48.300 55 percent of the oil imports to the united states come from alberta so this notion that if alberta

00:14:55.940 becomes independent carney's going to somehow do something to retaliate against alberta

00:15:01.040 that just has no air of reality in in the real world right and with what how you know canada

00:15:09.520 is in a vulnerable place as far as access to energy without alberta and that is with the

00:15:16.640 limited pipeline supply that we already have. So, I mean, people say, whoa, what are you going to do

00:15:21.440 about the military? What do you mean? The Americans love us. You think they're going to let anything

00:15:24.740 happen to us? And do you think the Canadians are going to do anything to us? With what? Are they

00:15:29.980 going to throw tampons at me from the men's room? I mean, there's a lot of people who are concerned

00:15:36.400 about the fine line items. And those things were sorted out once within Confederation. They can be

00:15:43.320 sorted out just fine outside of confederation too i think we're bright people well and not only that

00:15:48.660 sheila remember too it's so important to emphasize that the bulk of things that governments do that

00:15:55.960 affect us daily in our lives and our kids is provincial and municipal and there's only a few

00:16:01.660 things that the federal government actually does you know passport offices border control

00:16:08.020 monetary policy military and a few others um and all of the details of those functions are known

00:16:16.700 we know so we're basically taking over a business unit and saying all right

00:16:21.880 alberta right now runs registries for motor vehicle for uh personal property security

00:16:28.360 registry for financing for marriage you know for death for all of these things okay now we're going

00:16:34.040 to have to deliver a service where we confirm people's nationalities and issue a passport i'm

00:16:39.900 pretty sure given how poorly most other provinces deliver motor vehicle registry services compared

00:16:46.320 to the efficiency uh and low cost and hyper accessibility that we do here in alberta

00:16:53.300 we're going to be able to run a better passport office than the federal government so again we're

00:16:59.300 not going into this uncharted territory. The functions that Alberta would need to take over

00:17:05.080 from the federal government are all known and are being delivered today. The only question is

00:17:11.280 when Alberta takes them over, are we just going to maintain the same quality of service delivery

00:17:18.200 or are we going to improve it? And I'm very optimistic given our track record as a province

00:17:22.960 and the culture of our people that will improve it.

00:17:26.700 But then there's the dark side of all this.

00:17:29.900 Every week I joke that in an independent square five years from now

00:17:38.160 in Edmonton commemorating Alberta becoming independent,

00:17:44.020 an independent nation state in 2027,

00:17:46.200 there will be a small little statue of Mark Carney.

00:17:50.040 and the reason there'll be a little statue is we're just going to have to acknowledge the

00:17:57.120 critical role that he's providing in advancing the cause of independence you know they talk about

00:18:03.020 investment will leave if alberta becomes independent while at the same time trudeau

00:18:08.460 liberals and carney liberals and carney was briefing and advising the trudeau liberals on

00:18:13.940 their economic policy the rbc confirmed over a trillion dollars worth of investment left

00:18:19.640 right and half a trillion was from alberta right and but every other week there's announcement

00:18:27.900 like there was this past week where shell just did a 20 or 60 whatever it was a huge deal in

00:18:35.220 acquiring arc a big investment in alberta so so they're sucking and blowing uh they're they're

00:18:43.480 demonstrating, you know, announced the Sovereign Wealth Fund. I was on a team meeting with some

00:18:50.360 clients this morning and I joked that I just got back from the bank and they said, why? And I said,

00:18:55.480 well, I borrowed $5,000 to invest it in this Sovereign Wealth Fund. It's just like, what?

00:19:03.360 Yeah, I saw somebody joke that they're going to start calling their credit card bill their

00:19:10.520 sovereign wealth fund because that's literally what the federal government is doing just

00:19:14.560 allocating debt and then calling it a sovereign wealth fund and what's troubling is um so many

00:19:23.040 people in other parts of the country seem to fall for this stuff yeah and and and you know people

00:19:28.400 say oh well quebec was a distinct society had a distinct culture um and i've advocated consistently

00:19:36.480 as you know and i think you have as well yeah descriptively that alberta has its own culture

00:19:41.260 absolutely aspects of our culture is uh we can smell bullshit we can smell it from far away

00:19:48.260 yeah and uh so carney continues to advance policies his his spring economic update now confirms

00:19:57.180 the incredible number over 60 billion dollars a year just in debt servicing payments that goes

00:20:05.920 to nothing of value so um the reality is canada's future continues to get darker there's no

00:20:15.540 fundamental change in trajectory um carney is still obsessed with net zero um policies

00:20:24.520 one of their press release on the sovereign fund said they're doing all these things

00:20:29.180 to unlock our vast resources and what leaped out at me in those words was well who has them

00:20:35.580 locked up yeah world wants them investors want to pay for them there's one party that has them

00:20:42.320 locked up and that's the liberal government in ottawa yeah tomorrow he could repeal bill c69

00:20:50.120 he could repeal the no alberta oil tanker ban on the west coast he could repeal the net zero

00:20:58.200 he could repeal the carbon taxes no buyer in the world is prepared to pay for carbon taxes

00:21:05.380 Could you imagine the increased revenue to the economy and investment if they lifted the industrial carbon taxes alone, got rid of the Pathways Project and the methane rules?

00:21:18.340 All of these things make our oil less competitive.

00:21:22.320 Third largest reserve in the world, the world wants it.

00:21:25.920 So these guys are not changing course.

00:21:30.080 And what they are doing is they're creating this idea of a king.

00:21:34.520 like an old school king where you come before the king on bent knee and it's king carney if you want

00:21:41.120 to get your project approved you now have to go to him um and get his permission to put it on the

00:21:49.100 major projects list sheila we you and i have were raised in an alberta and in a canada where if you

00:21:56.340 had an entrepreneurial idea and you could meet basic regulatory reasonable thresholds you went

00:22:01.840 ahead and did it you created jobs you created wealth you donated back to your community

00:22:06.000 and they're shifting to a different type of system where one man king carny little man

00:22:14.100 sitting on a big throne controls all and can direct it to his ideological pursuits more and

00:22:21.420 more Albertans are waking up to that and I think they're going to vote for independence

00:22:24.820 in october of this year now keith i hope you're right um but you do you do a lot of educational

00:22:35.400 videos to help people navigate a lot of the misinformation you see on the project fear side

00:22:45.080 and i'll put the media squarely on the project fear side so how do people find out what the truth

00:22:52.300 is and reality is where do they find your uh social media well i have i have a i have a youtube

00:22:58.500 channel it's called just search keith wilson casey or keith wilson alberta and you'll

00:23:03.560 and put the word independence in there and you'll find my youtube channel i try and do

00:23:07.760 a video a week or two a week depending on what's going on some what i feel is misinformation or

00:23:14.280 significant development so people can get their bearings um and i'm also very active on x and

00:23:21.040 It's at IKWilson, at IKWilson.

00:23:25.520 But there's also lots of other great sources,

00:23:27.900 Rebels doing great work.

00:23:29.040 And I do agree with you, Sheila,

00:23:31.060 that what's remarkable about the Federalists

00:23:36.240 who are becoming more vocal,

00:23:39.540 whether it's Jason Kenney or Thomas Lukasik or whoever,

00:23:44.540 is none of them offer an alternative plan

00:23:48.980 to address the clear problems of the country

00:23:51.320 and the clear unfairness and grievances

00:23:54.840 that Ottawa imposes on Alberta.

00:23:57.760 So even for those who don't,

00:24:00.000 are not yet resolved in their mind

00:24:02.060 as to whether they're comfortable enough

00:24:03.780 becoming fully independent,

00:24:05.960 the vote in October is an opportunity for them

00:24:09.340 to send a strong message to Ottawa

00:24:11.800 that there has to be fundamental change here.

00:24:14.940 So I think that's sort of a dual track

00:24:17.940 that we're on right now.

00:24:18.980 there's the, there's the reluctant federalists, and then there's the ardent separatists or people

00:24:25.640 support independence and their interests align. Yep. Well, I, I agree with you. This is the one

00:24:34.020 chance in a generation to send these people a message and make sure they get it loud and clear,

00:24:38.940 because last time, last time when Canadians tried to send these people a message,

00:24:45.120 we all saw what they did to the freedom convoy let's show them something back uh keith thanks

00:24:50.700 so much for jumping on the show today uh we you know i should regular viewers will already know

00:24:56.020 but you're a regular guest on all of the rebel news programs as your show now my show you're on

00:25:01.940 rebel roundup as well so just grateful um for you to take the time to explain what's happening as

00:25:10.260 we shift to the next phase of the independence movement appreciate you thanks for having me on

00:25:17.240 all right friends last portion of the show always goes to you at home because without you

00:25:30.140 there's no rebel news we don't take money from the government we never will so we rely on you

00:25:35.240 But because we rely on you, we better give you your opportunity to let us have it in return.

00:25:41.340 If you don't like what we're doing, let us know.

00:25:43.520 If you do like what we're doing, please let us know as well.

00:25:47.240 And I think I'm going to get some people on the Federalist side of this a little bit upset at me with today's show.

00:25:54.440 And that's OK.

00:25:55.980 This is a place where I take constructive criticism.

00:26:01.340 You tell me why you're mad at me and I'll tell you why I think I'm right.

00:26:05.240 um but i must tell you normally i make a call out for viewer feedback via email if you want

00:26:14.420 to email me it's sheila at rebelnews.com put then show letters in the subject line

00:26:18.760 however this week for a few glorious days days i'll never forget i was without my outlook email

00:26:30.740 account it felt like I was riding down a hill on a bike and just freewheeling you know just that

00:26:41.280 sense of freedom just going with the flow wherever the wind takes you until you get access to your

00:26:48.680 email again and it's just people yelling at you and wondering why you haven't responded so I may

00:26:53.920 have missed some of the viewer feedback this week that came to me by email but i did take a look

00:27:01.480 of about what you had to say happening over on youtube and this was on my recent video on

00:27:09.540 how much money has been going to downtown toronto broadcasters from the local journalism initiative

00:27:19.300 but the local journalism initiative i hate it i don't think it should exist especially in a time

00:27:24.820 of internet starlink and cell phones and all that stuff it's easy to just create news content even

00:27:32.740 if you're in a so-called news desert rurally like this is coming to you from under the stairs in a

00:27:39.480 log cabin in a hayfield okay so it can be done as long as you're not being um metered by the state

00:27:48.960 which is what's happening here but yeah the most underserved place according to these government

00:27:55.800 payouts in the entire country was downtown toronto i joked in my video like yeah next

00:28:02.300 bay street bankers are going to need uh northern development funds for some reason so i wanted to

00:28:09.840 know what you guys have to say about this because you know i hate those government bailouts i

00:28:14.380 I particularly hate them for journalists.

00:28:17.780 Lawrence Johnson, 4882, says the Liberals keep shoveling billions to the state-run media and nothing is ever done about it.

00:28:23.820 Well, I tried, man. I tried.

00:28:25.680 I at least told the Liberals what I thought about their bailouts when I testified at committee.

00:28:32.380 Steve Dennis, 8292, says control the media, control the war.

00:28:37.100 You know, when the war is on your mind.

00:28:39.760 phil lefkowitz 6685 said that was excellent sheila thank you well thank you so much

00:28:47.340 robin kleinstuber 5217 says discussing amounts of taxpayer money wasted on buying loyalty of

00:28:55.540 these news entities to be well-behaved laptop lap dogs for the corrupt liberals in power

00:29:02.180 disgusting truth gets sacrificed for twisted fiction in the same manner when dictatorships

00:29:07.140 seek control of all media outlets you know it's so funny because on the live stream this week we

00:29:12.540 reacted to a video of journalists who were asking carny about the fiscal update the spring fiscal

00:29:20.260 update and they were saying tell us what the good news is tell us all about the good news

00:29:25.020 i thought they were just saying oh we're gonna you know polish your turd of a fiscal update

00:29:30.540 and we're hinting at you like that no matter what you say to us it's going to be good news

00:29:37.940 but now reflecting on it i see that they have extended this funding in the fiscal update which

00:29:46.860 means the good news they were asking about is can you give us more money are you giving us more

00:29:51.100 money and uh hot damn he sure did it's almost like they knew in advance david morgan 8705 defund

00:29:58.560 all media if they can't survive on their own then goodbye we are better off without them

00:30:01.700 exactly uh jason s 6021 government funded media is no longer media it's propaganda

00:30:11.420 i said at the very least it's politically contaminated like even if you can maintain

00:30:17.080 some independence there are some people who still work over at post media joe warmington is one of

00:30:22.340 them rick bell is one of them that i think they are independent thinkers of the state but their

00:30:30.940 work feels contaminated even through perception of the government money if you get what i mean

00:30:38.220 and i hate that for those guys because i like those guys dylan innis 8541 says i wish the

00:30:46.300 media would remember that taxpayers are paying the bill and they ought to serve the citizens

00:30:50.000 not the government yeah they don't they hate you they hate you they just see you as a pocket

00:30:57.640 to pick thank you just think about how they treated the freedom convoy that's how they

00:31:04.040 think about regular canadiens all right well everybody that's the show for today thank you

00:31:09.300 so much for tuning in i'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week

00:31:13.500 and as always don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think

00:31:20.000 We'll see you next time.

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Rebel News Podcast - April 30, 2026

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Alberta's independence movement nears a turning point — what comes after the signatures？

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