Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Best of the 2022 Conservative Party leadership campaign

00:00:00.000 Oh hey Rebels, I bet once again you're expecting the melodious vocal stylings of my boss Ezra

00:00:06.540 Levant, but he's not in today. I'm covering the show. This is me, Sheila Gunn-Reed, and it is a

00:00:14.220 holiday in North America. In the United States, it's Labor Day. In many places in Canada, it's

00:00:20.520 also Labor Day. In Alberta, it is Alberta Day. We've snatched the day back from the labor movement.

00:00:28.500 And we're doing a best of show today, some of the best of our coverage of the Conservative Party

00:00:36.060 leadership campaign, some of our sit-down interviews with the candidates, some of our coverage of

00:00:42.540 campaign events, and some of our questions from the debate scrums. Now, I think you're going to

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00:01:54.400 The Conservative Party of Canada's leadership election campaign is nearly over, and Rebel News has covered

00:02:00.860 it from start to finish. It's Monday, September 5th. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

00:02:11.800 Come on, you. You censorious bug. 0.81

00:02:23.320 Oh, hey, everybody. Thanks for joining me on this Labor Day. I guess for the rest of the country,

00:02:28.800 it's Labor Day here in Alberta. It's called Alberta Day, where we've taken the day back

00:02:33.080 from the labor movement. I'm filling in for the big boss and the big chair today, and that's okay

00:02:38.860 because today is a best-of show. We're looking back at some of our very best coverage of the Conservative Party

00:02:45.300 leadership campaign. Our journalists have covered the contest to replace outgoing leader Aaron O'Toole

00:02:51.860 from the very beginning, and even before that. Our journalists were on the ground in Ottawa

00:02:57.040 when Aaron O'Toole put the final nail in his own coffin by refusing to support the convoy protesters in their

00:03:04.240 peaceful demonstration for human rights and against COVID mandates in the nation's capital.

00:03:10.540 And since then, we've had sit-down interviews with declared candidates. We've covered campaign rallies.

00:03:16.060 We've interviewed supporters. We've live-streamed debates, and we've scrummed politicians afterwards,

00:03:21.100 asking questions we know Canadian Conservatives want answers to. We didn't ask questions Conservatives

00:03:27.200 don't care about. We asked about lockdowns. We asked about gun rights. We asked about free speech.

00:03:32.480 We asked about China, supply management, and access to healthcare. Oh, and press freedom. So today,

00:03:38.560 instead of our normal monologue and then interview, we'll refresh your memory on what the candidate said

00:03:43.760 and did during the leadership campaign. The votes have to be in by September 6th, and then it's all over

00:03:50.380 about the crying. If you don't have your mind made up, maybe today's show might help you.

00:03:56.120 Okay, let's start with Ezra's sit-down interview with Conservative MP, Leslyn Lewis.

00:04:01.740 And I really appreciate this opportunity to speak with you about what the purpose of that birthday wish

00:04:08.580 to the Nuremberg Code was. So that comms that I put out, Ezra, was on the birthday of the Nuremberg.

00:04:15.120 And I really wanted to highlight just how Canada has deviated from that and how we should be careful

00:04:22.880 because that code, we don't need to have another Holocaust. And I pray to God that we will never 0.99

00:04:29.100 have anything so brutal and egregious as the Holocaust for us to actually invoke the code and to learn from

00:04:37.500 it again. I believe that the code is an international legal principle that came out of one of the

00:04:44.860 worse dehumanization of people to the point where people would say, well, you know, the Jewish people,

00:04:53.240 some of them, their skin were the same color as the people who were oppressing them. But the hatred was

00:04:58.600 so deep that they created a racial group and said, these people are different and measured the size of

00:05:06.340 their heads and did atrocious things. That wasn't really what I was focused on. I was focused on

00:05:12.000 the legal principle that came out of that so that we would never do that again. And so I took that

00:05:19.200 legal principle and I looked at whether or not Canada deviated from it. And I looked at the

00:05:25.300 experiments that we conducted on young Indigenous children. And so many things were so wrong with

00:05:34.000 that experiment. Even when the children were deemed to be malnourished and doctors wanted to intervene and

00:05:40.040 give them vitamins, the authorities, our government said no, because they are part of a control group.

00:05:48.820 And you will ruin the experiment. So they watched these children suffer. And I wanted to highlight

00:05:55.260 that. And the reason why I highlighted the two other cases is because I know that then sometimes

00:06:00.420 when people will go down the path of saying, oh, well, you know, our country is so bad. No,

00:06:05.680 our country is the greatest country in the world. And we learn from our mistakes. And we are not

00:06:11.660 perfect. And that's why we need to analyze our history rather than tear it down. And that's why

00:06:19.120 I highlighted the Willenbrook case and Tuskegee. Because in Willenbrook, the parents also thought

00:06:26.740 that, well, actually, the doctor said that the parents were given consent, even though those parents

00:06:32.620 were told that if you don't sign on to this program for your children, these experiments,

00:06:38.360 we won't treat your children, we won't give them, they won't be able to stay in this hospital.

00:06:43.300 So those parents were compelled. And they didn't know that the children were being injected with

00:06:48.640 hepatitis. So they didn't even know what the source of the injection was. Same thing with Tuskegee,

00:06:53.600 Ezra. In the Tuskegee experiment, both black and white men were treated, the white men were treated, 0.80

00:06:59.860 and the black men were given placebos, and watched, and then sent out in the community

00:07:05.320 to infect others. And children were born with syphilis, and we're told that these men suffered 0.84

00:07:12.760 dramatically. And when they went to other doctors, the doctors were not permitted to treat them. They

00:07:18.620 were told that they would lose their license if they treated these men. Because once again,

00:07:24.300 same as in Canada, they were part of a human experiment, and they were a control group. And

00:07:31.460 so they needed, they could not be treated. And this is egregious, Ezra. And on the birthday of

00:07:38.220 Newenburg, I thought it was very important to highlight it. Now, a few of my supporters contacted

00:07:43.400 me and said, oh, you didn't mention COVID. And they were very disappointed. Because to be honest

00:07:48.160 with you, Ezra, the purpose of the post wasn't about COVID at that time. It is to, it was to

00:07:55.340 highlight how fragile our rights can be, and how something as important as the legal instrument

00:08:02.860 of the Newenburg Code was deviated on three, three occasions in North America for decades.

00:08:10.040 A few weeks ago, I sat down with Roman Babber to discuss his comprehensive campaign platform.

00:08:15.780 We should probably phase out supply management, instead of telling farmers how much dairy they

00:08:21.340 can produce. And we need to have the courage to stand up for all Canadians and defend them

00:08:26.380 against Bill 21 and Bill 96 in Quebec, and so on and so forth. I think now we should make this race 1.00

00:08:33.560 about the conscience and the future of the Conservative Party. And that means not being afraid to put forth

00:08:38.880 bold and courageous ideas.

00:08:41.280 Now, you've got a sort of a four-point plan of your commitment to Canada. And the first one is

00:08:46.880 defend Canada's democracy. And, you know, not only in there do you talk about decentralizing powers

00:08:54.080 away from the Prime Minister's office. And I suppose that goes back to giving power to the MPs to

00:09:00.960 exercise matters of conscience without being booted from caucus. But also, I suppose that involves

00:09:09.280 giving powers back to the provinces, too, to make decisions without meddling from the Prime

00:09:14.800 Minister's office.

00:09:16.880 Absolutely. So, look, the principal reason why I'm in this race is because I think we're watching an 0.76

00:09:22.620 unprecedented erosion of Canada's democracy. And as someone with a unique perspective on how

00:09:27.980 precious and fragile our democracy is, I think it's incumbent on us to stand up for our country and

00:09:35.280 all Canadians. So, first, I will end this 21st century segregation that we've been seeing for

00:09:40.480 the last couple of years. I'll pass federal legislation to ban all passports and mandates 1.00

00:09:44.800 and medical discrimination. I'll restore the freedom of speech. That's the most important

00:09:48.640 thing we can do because through speech we protect all other rights. So, I'll repeal the liberal

00:09:52.800 censorship laws. I'll defend regulated professionals. I'll speak to the social media giants through the

00:09:58.160 Bureau of Competition and ensure that Canadians are not censored online. And most importantly,

00:10:02.720 we have to ensure free and independent media. And that means end all media dependency

00:10:08.240 on government. But at the same time, you can't restore democracy in Canada without restoring

00:10:11.840 democracy in the Conservative Party of Canada. So, restore parliamentary democracy by decentralizing

00:10:16.720 power away from the PMO, allow free votes on matters of conscience, and encourage MPs to express

00:10:21.280 their views without fear of reprisal.

00:10:23.520 You know, I think that's a really great thing that you're talking about, that free speech is,

00:10:31.040 you know, it's the thing by which we argue about all the other rights. And, you know, I was talking

00:10:37.360 to Ezra the other day about one of the great things about Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is that he is

00:10:42.960 unafraid to use all the levers of power at his disposal to advance his agenda. And we see the left do this

00:10:49.440 all the time. Justin Trudeau does it all the time. It's how he banned 1500 popular models of Canadian

00:10:55.360 firearms. He just did it. Now, I disagree with his agenda, but he's using all the levers of power to

00:11:01.360 advance it. And it's nice to see a Conservative talking about doing the same, saying, you know what,

00:11:06.640 I'm going to advance and pass this legislation, I'm going to get it done, instead of Conservatives

00:11:12.240 being afraid to advance ideas. We always talked about, you know, the left talked about Harper's

00:11:19.440 hidden agenda. 10 years later, 15 years later, I've never seen it. We're still looking for it.

00:11:26.320 It was so slow and hidden that nobody ever found it. And the left is always up front. At least we,

00:11:31.440 we may disagree with them, but we know what we're getting. And it's nice to see a Conservative

00:11:35.840 like yourself talking about it. One of the things you, I think is a new policy to you is the repeal of

00:11:45.920 supply management. Now, as a farmer, I've got a unique perspective on this. I'm not a supply managed

00:11:51.440 farmer, so I don't, I'm not, I'm not pro supply management. If I can make it, they can make it.

00:11:58.000 But I think this is a new policy for you, or at least I've never seen you talking about it.

00:12:03.840 Um, so why is, why now, why are you talking about this? Why is this a Roman Babber issue now?

00:12:12.080 Just to your earlier comment, very quickly, we do not need to be afraid of presenting a serious

00:12:19.680 proposal and agenda before Canadians. I think that that, in fact, is what lost us the prior two

00:12:26.640 elections, is that we're afraid to be ourselves, or we run to the right during leadership, and then we

00:12:31.680 pivot to the left during the general election. That is inconsistent with our brand. We need to

00:12:37.680 ensure that the Conservative Party stands on principles. And folks might disagree with me,

00:12:42.080 but that's okay. That's democracy. But at the very least, you will always know where I stand.

00:12:46.960 Like I said at the outset of the interview, I'm running against socialism in Canada. And that means that

00:12:52.080 I do not believe that we should have central planning of the economy. And I can't imagine a more

00:12:57.040 quintessential policy that plans the economy centrally than supply management, whereby effectively,

00:13:04.240 a Politburo of sorts, the Dairy Council of Canada, regulates how much dairy products we may produce

00:13:12.240 every year. I find that terrible for the consumer. Of course, for prices, especially when prices are

00:13:19.920 are skyrocketing in the grocery stores, we are spilling out thousands of gallons of milk when

00:13:28.240 we need to encourage increasing supply, not decreasing, especially given that we have a lot of money in

00:13:36.160 the economy. And so I think that if a Canadian wants to get up and farm, we should not prevent them. Of course,

00:13:43.760 I understand that some folks own concessions and quotas, and we need to figure out a way to wean

00:13:48.960 ourselves off supply management. And that means maybe looking at amortization, looking at some sort

00:13:55.040 of exchange policy. But I want to free our ability to farm. You know, I think that's great. I think

00:14:04.720 very rarely people think outside the box on this issue. And, you know, it's nice to see that you are

00:14:12.080 addressing those arguments where they say, well, I have a quota. This quota is expensive. You're

00:14:17.920 rendering it useless to me. You've actually sort of thought a little bit down the road about how we're

00:14:23.200 going to deal with people who hold these quotas so that eventually there will be more farmers in the

00:14:29.120 marketplace to bring those costs down to consumers. I think it's wonderful. One of the things that you're

00:14:35.440 sorry, go ahead. I was going to say, absolutely. We cannot devalue someone's personal property.

00:14:41.520 We cannot come in and overnight render it without any value. Sorry, devalue it overnight. And so

00:14:52.400 what I propose we do instead, we have some models to look at. New Zealand has been able to wean itself

00:14:58.400 off supply management. But most importantly, I think we need to think about the long term. And we have too

00:15:05.520 many cartels in Canada, whether it's maple syrup or agricultural products. We're limiting the supply

00:15:11.840 of fertilizer, for instance, through a cartel, which makes no sense either. We need to free up our

00:15:19.520 economic opportunity, especially at a time when we're seeing an unprecedented price inflation.

00:15:24.320 Now, some politicians weren't able to sit down with us for whatever reason. So we had to go to them.

00:15:31.200 Front runner Pierre Polyev was particularly elusive, but that didn't mean we weren't able to put a few

00:15:36.640 questions to him. It took a few different rebels in a few different cities. But I think we got some

00:15:42.480 answers from Polyev.

00:15:43.680 My father was a Canadian-Francais from Saskatchewan. When I was born in Calgary, he wanted to

00:15:51.360 transmit the French language. And he told me that if I could write my list of Christmas in French,

00:16:01.440 that the Père Noël would be much more generous with me. And that's why I was able to learn French

00:16:10.320 when I was very young. But I was lost during my adolescence. And I find my Francophone roots

00:16:18.320 now with my wife, with our family. And I'm determined to perfection my French to be here in Quebec and

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00:16:42.200 – Christian Wolfenest, Cassandra Bonners, Names,果fondatrice de notre pays à travers le

00:16:46.180 pays!

00:16:47.180 Vous avez parlé que justement que vous vouliez arrêter de subventionner CBC. Et également,

00:16:50.200 je voulais savoir aussi votre position par rapport aussi à Radio-Canada qui est la version francophone

00:16:55.620 Quebec.

00:16:56.620 Oui.

00:16:57.620 Et c'est quoi votre plan par rapport à ça?

00:16:59.620 Le plan que j'ai pour ça, pour pouvoir dévoiler pendant la

00:17:02.620 campagne à la chefferie, mais c'est vrai que je vais couper le

00:17:05.620 budget de CBC parce que c'est un grand gaspillage.

00:17:09.620 Il gaspille énormément de l'argent et presque tout ce que

00:17:12.620 fait le CBC anglais, c'est déjà disponible sur le marché.

00:17:16.620 Les gouvernements devraient faire seulement ce que le marché

00:17:19.620 ne peut pas faire.

00:17:21.620 Mais presque tout ce qu'on voit au CBC, à la télé, sur

00:17:26.620 Internet, c'est déjà disponible dans d'autres sources.

00:17:31.620 Donc, je reconnais que pour RDI, c'est un peu différent parce

00:17:35.620 qu'il n'y a pas autant d'options en français qu'il existe en

00:17:40.620 anglais.

00:17:41.620 Mais pour le CBC, il y a beaucoup de gaspillage.

00:17:44.620 Je vais le couper, on va sauver l'argent et on va permettre

00:17:48.620 les gens de choisir leurs propres sources médiatiques.

00:17:51.620 Guys, we can do a quick photo, but we really don't have a lot of time.

00:17:54.620 He's asking a question and sort of the guy before him and the guy

00:17:56.620 before me.

00:17:57.620 I'm a voter as well.

00:17:58.620 Drea from Rebel News.

00:17:59.620 Good to see you.

00:18:00.620 Thank you very much for coming.

00:18:01.620 I lined up.

00:18:02.620 I'm hoping I can ask you just a super quick question.

00:18:03.620 Yeah, real quick.

00:18:04.620 The only thing is we are a little late, but I'd be happy.

00:18:05.620 It'll be just as quick as everybody else who chatted with you.

00:18:07.620 Yeah, by the way.

00:18:08.620 Yeah, so recently you said that you are for Canada becoming sort of the

00:18:12.620 blockchain capital of the world.

00:18:14.620 I'm just wondering if that means and I got to read it because I'm learning

00:18:17.620 with everyone else here.

00:18:18.620 Does that mean you support centralized digital currency like we're seeing

00:18:22.620 with Canada that they're developing with MIT like what we're seeing that

00:18:27.620 just rolled out with China and their social credit system?

00:18:30.620 No, the opposite of that.

00:18:31.620 So you have central bank digital currencies which are controlled by government.

00:18:35.620 You have decentralized blockchain assets like Bitcoin which are controlled by no one.

00:18:44.620 Basically Bitcoin is controlled by the majority of the processing power on the network which

00:18:51.620 is held by thousands of people all around the world who don't even know each other.

00:18:56.620 And that's the genius of the blockchain and the genius of Bitcoin.

00:19:01.620 No one controls it.

00:19:02.620 The government doesn't control it.

00:19:04.620 It is controlled by a protocol and you can buy and sell it without any intermediary.

00:19:11.620 Everything is updated on a public ledger that is verified by thousands of people around the world

00:19:18.620 through their computer network.

00:19:20.620 And those people don't even know each other so they can't conspire to control it.

00:19:24.620 And the genius of that is it takes control out of money away from politicians and bankers

00:19:31.620 and potentially gives it to the people.

00:19:33.620 So the central bank digital currency on the other hand is controlled by governments.

00:19:38.620 That's what China is doing.

00:19:39.620 China has banned Bitcoin while they have brought in a central bank digital currency

00:19:45.620 which is designed to control people.

00:19:48.620 And I'm against having a central bank take deposits and take over the banking system.

00:19:53.620 I think that the banking system should be private.

00:19:58.620 The charter bank should be private.

00:20:00.620 And the central bank's only role should be to keep inflation low and the financial system stable.

00:20:07.620 Alright, thank you so much.

00:20:08.620 I'm going to smile for the camera as well.

00:20:10.620 I'm a crypto trader.

00:20:12.620 Yes.

00:20:13.620 And so the thing that me and my friends love the most about it is that it's decentralized obviously

00:20:18.620 and no one can touch it.

00:20:19.620 Yes.

00:20:20.620 So how do you get around all this?

00:20:22.620 I'm sure you pay attention to the space that scamming is unreal that's happening,

00:20:25.620 especially in the NFT space.

00:20:26.620 So how can you avoid centralization of a currency but also regulate it?

00:20:31.620 Because that's a fine line, right?

00:20:34.620 Well, first of all, there are scams in every part of life.

00:20:37.620 There are scams using the American dollar, the British pound, the Canadian dollar.

00:20:42.620 There are scams in the stock market, in the bond market.

00:20:45.620 There are scams everywhere, right?

00:20:48.620 So people have to, but we're not going to ban dollars and stocks and bonds just because

00:20:55.620 there are some scam artists.

00:20:57.620 The first thing is that if someone, people have to take personal responsibility.

00:21:00.620 If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

00:21:03.620 Don't buy something you don't understand. 0.89

00:21:06.620 And there is a lot of junk out there.

00:21:08.620 Of course.

00:21:09.620 Just like a lot of when the stock markets first began, there was a lot of scams that happened

00:21:12.620 there, but we would have been mistaken to shut down the entire stock market system. 0.79

00:21:16.620 So, personally, I don't trust most of them.

00:21:20.620 But I do believe in Bitcoin and related technologies.

00:21:24.620 I'm not saying you should buy it or not buy it.

00:21:26.620 But I do believe you should have the freedom to buy it because it gives people the ability,

00:21:31.620 using their own brain power, to decide what to do with their own money.

00:21:35.620 And if the government is going to ruin our cash like they're doing right now,

00:21:39.620 then the people should have the right to look for other cash that the government can't control or manipulate.

00:21:46.620 I believe in taking control of money away from bankers and politicians and giving it back to the people.

00:21:51.620 En fait, on sait qu'au niveau des libéraux, eux autres sont en train de faire de la censure d'Internet.

00:21:56.620 On sait qu'il y a certains conservateurs du Parti conservateur qui ont supporté cette censure d'Internet-là.

00:22:01.620 Est-ce que vous, vous supportez cela?

00:22:03.620 Je n'ai pas entendu le premier parti.

00:22:06.620 Les libéraux, en ce moment, sont en train d'essayer de mettre un plan pour la censure de l'Internet pour arrêter ça?

00:22:12.620 Ah oui. Je suis contre.

00:22:13.620 Contre, contre, contre.

00:22:14.620 En fait, j'étais parmi des députés qui ont travaillé pour battre le projet de loi C-10 dans le dernier parlement.

00:22:24.620 Maintenant, c'est C-11.

00:22:25.620 Je vais voter contre, je vais travailler contre et je vais travailler pour protéger la liberté d'expression sur Internet.

00:22:34.620 Now, some of the work I think I'm most proud of is our work from our team of journalists, particularly the new ones in the post-debate scrums.

00:22:43.620 They ask real questions, not CBC's what would you do about climate change questions that nobody cares about except, of course, the CBC and the Liberals who don't get a vote here.

00:22:52.620 Take a look.

00:22:53.620 M. Charest, bonjour Alexandra, la voix pour Robin News.

00:22:57.620 Avec l'influence croissante d'organisations telles que l'Organisation mondiale de la santé et le Forum économique mondial qui s'infiltre au sein des cabinets du gouvernement canadien,

00:23:07.620 comment allez-vous assurer la souveraineté de la nation pour que le pays puisse faire ses propres choix économiques et en termes de santé face à ses intérêts mondialistes?

00:23:18.620 La PCU n'a pas eu de questions, moi je pense qu'on devrait passer à Michel Sartre, je suis désolée.

00:23:22.620 Rebel a déjà eu des questions.

00:23:23.620 Pas avec M. Charest, merci.

00:23:24.620 Ben oui, pas de collègue.

00:23:26.620 Écoutez, je ne crois pas que le Forum ou le WEF menace la souveraineté du Canada. D'ailleurs, la dernière fois que j'étais là, j'étais là avec Stephen Harper.

00:23:42.620 Et en follow-up, envisagez-vous de voir le Canada adopter l'identité numérique et si c'est le cas, quels mécanismes seront en place pour empêcher ceux au pouvoir de désactiver notre identité ou notre argent?

00:23:57.620 Car on doit se l'avouer qu'avec le gouvernement Trudeau, ce qu'il a fait aux camionneurs a laissé un goût amer aux Canadiens en termes de sécurité numérique.

00:24:07.620 Bon, écoutez, je vais prendre ça comme étant un commentaire. Et s'il y a d'autres questions, je vous en prie.

00:24:12.620 Michel?

00:24:13.620 Albert, as some of the most ethical oil on earth, both in terms of human rights and environmental concerns, why are conservative leadership candidates tiptoeing and apologizing around WEF climate language like net zero,

00:24:28.620 instead of doing the best thing that we could do here in Canada for the environment and sell our oil to foreign countries around the world?

00:24:35.620 Venezuela and Ireland aren't playing these games themselves.

00:24:38.620 Well, you certainly don't get any tiptoeing with me when it comes to what I believe is a very misguided net zero carbon policy.

00:24:50.620 On the contrary, I believe that Canada's natural resources are a blessing.

00:24:55.620 And I'm not going to let oil and gas be cancelled.

00:24:58.620 And our natural resources are good not just for our strategic interest and our economic bottom line.

00:25:03.620 They're great for the planet because Canadians can drive energy cleaner and safer than any other nation on earth.

00:25:09.620 So I'm going to free Canadian oil and gas.

00:25:13.620 I've been to Alberta three times since this leadership race began.

00:25:17.620 I have a very robust Western Canada policy.

00:25:20.620 And it's not just great for Western Canada.

00:25:24.620 I believe that the only way that we're going to get out of the fiscal hole that the Liberals are going to leave us in is to unleash the economic potential of our country.

00:25:32.620 And I'm going to do that by turning Canada into a natural resources superpower.

00:25:37.620 Thank you very much.

00:25:38.620 Thank you for Rebel News.

00:25:39.620 We've seen you shut down Brampton public parks, playgrounds and other public facilities under threats of $880 public fines and worse.

00:25:48.620 My colleagues and I witnessed you breaking your own rules heading to play hockey with your friends.

00:25:55.620 And you lied about that too.

00:25:57.620 What do you say to voters that don't believe you because of your past actions?

00:26:02.620 Well, I certainly don't agree with Rebel Media.

00:26:05.620 And it was very clear that I was one of the few big city mayors that pushed back against the closures of recreation.

00:26:12.620 And I'm sure you know that complaint from Rebel was found to be factually incorrect.

00:26:18.620 And I'm proud of my record during COVID-19 to have been one of the few big city mayors in the country who didn't have vaccine mandates and pushed to make sure that recreation was open to stay active, to stay fit.

00:26:32.620 Mr. Sheree, how you doing? Welcome, West.

00:26:34.620 Thank you very much.

00:26:35.620 Can I ask you a question about fake news and disinformation?

00:26:39.620 Justin Trudeau talks about it a lot and he suggests that government has a role in identifying misinformation and disinformation and regulating it somehow.

00:26:53.620 Do you believe that's something that the government should do or do you think one man's fake news is another man's truth?

00:27:00.620 I don't know how you do that. That's a challenge. I don't know how you distinguish all the nuances and the shades of information to make a ruling or a decision. I don't know who makes that.

00:27:16.620 So, you know, we live in a world where we're just going to have to work hard to educate people to be as critical as they can and have a critical mind on the information they receive.

00:27:28.620 A follow-up, one of Trudeau's proposals with Minister Rodriguez would alter the algorithm for Facebook or Google to boost content that the government prefers.

00:27:40.620 It could be Canadian content, it could be qualified news organizations. I think the implication is it would suppress things, other things.

00:27:47.620 How do you feel about that algorithm change proposed by the Minister?

00:27:51.620 Well, I'm not sure what they're talking about and I don't understand what they're talking about.

00:27:55.620 I don't think they should be trying to engineer things that they don't understand or that they know what they're talking about.

00:28:01.620 And last, but definitely not least, my favorite part of the job, talking to the people. And we heard from a lot of you at campaign rallies over the summer.

00:28:10.620 He's more rassemble. I think he's a person who, you know, the people don't know him a lot, especially in Quebec. I think the people like his discourse.

00:28:18.620 Because Mr Charest, we've known him for years. We know what he did in politics. It's not very, very fructue.

00:28:24.620 Do you want to tell us what brings you out here? Are you a Pierre fan?

00:28:27.620 I am. Yes, very much so. I feel like the way this country has been headed recently, we've been headed in the wrong direction, both economically, socially, and just about every way you can.

00:28:37.620 Under this Prime Minister, I don't see a future for Canadians. Not one that I see under Pierre, at least.

00:28:41.620 Is there anything you heard from him today that you would really support if he went through with?

00:28:45.620 I mean, I really like that he's against vaccine mandates. I'm vaccinated. I just hate the idea that the government owns people's bodies.

00:28:51.620 I hate coercion. I'm all about individual rights, individual choice. He said a lot of things that I like.

00:28:55.620 I'm only skeptical because he's only really been talking about these things for about two months, two or three months.

00:29:00.620 Whereas some other people, like Bernier and Babe, have been talking about them for a while.

00:29:04.620 So I'm open. I'm considering him. I'm interested. I'm glad.

00:29:07.620 I'd much rather have him than Charest or Trudeau, don't get me wrong.

00:29:10.620 But I think my people are a little bit skeptical. He's going to have to do a little bit more work to prove that he means what he says.

00:29:14.620 But I like almost everything he's saying.

00:29:16.620 Being on university campuses and being conservative definitely makes you feel like a minority.

00:29:21.620 But it's just so amazing to be able to come here today and see so many people who just share the same thoughts and opinions

00:29:27.620 and be able to have conversations and see Pierre as well. So we're happy to be here.

00:29:31.620 I think it's better than what it is in the States, but still it's a bit tough.

00:29:35.620 Yeah. I mean, I say this. The guy who's done blackface four times shouldn't be the guy championing against racism, right?

00:29:42.620 He's pulled a con on all the young liberals.

00:29:44.620 So what is a promise you would like to see or hear from Mr. Polyev if he becomes the leader of the Conservative Party?

00:29:52.620 Well, what he said about defunding the CBC sounds quite promising, especially because I don't see a lot of their company supporting free speech ideology.

00:30:04.620 And so I think that's going to be an important thing moving forward for Canada.

00:30:07.620 Actually, I just want him to keep his promises, do what he says. This is what we're lacking for all of our politicians.

00:30:15.620 For example, Trudeau, he promised everything, including that he would respect the Charter of Canadian Rights and Freedom.

00:30:22.620 And now he violated every single section.

00:30:25.620 Stay with us. Your letters to Ezra up after the break.

00:30:28.620 Well, we've come to the part of the show where we welcome your viewer feedback.

00:30:40.620 Unlike the mainstream media, we actually care about what you think about the work that we're doing here at Rebel News.

00:30:47.620 And we're so grateful that you've taken the time to write us.

00:30:50.620 So let's, since we're talking about the leadership campaign coming, thankfully, to a close, let's talk about Ezra's interview with Leslyn Lewis the other day,

00:31:02.620 who is under fire for likening what's happening right now with regard to COVID-19 mandates to the forced medical experimentation

00:31:17.620 that was covered under the Nuremberg Code, which grew out of the experimentation the Nazis did on unwilling participants.

00:31:27.620 Woof, yes, right? Speaking of the Nuremberg Code of 1947,

00:31:33.620 technically these vaccines are still considered experimental and people should not be used as test specimens.

00:31:39.620 You know, I don't think enough has been said about it, although I've tried.

00:31:45.620 The entire military was vaccinated or they were fired if they weren't vaccinated with the Moderna vaccine.

00:31:55.620 That's what was given to the military.

00:31:58.620 Now, if you look at the demographics of the people who joined the military,

00:32:02.620 despite all the social justice shoehorning to change that, the majority of the people in the military are young men.

00:32:10.620 And then after the entire military was vaccinated with Moderna under the threat of being tossed out and having your career either stalled or ruined altogether, 0.99

00:32:21.620 it came out that Moderna is actually not recommended for young men because of the risk of myocarditis.

00:32:28.620 So how did they get that data? Did they use the military as test specimens one more time? Who knows?

00:32:38.620 But this speaks to the dangers of forcing people to get a medical treatment that they don't want and before the medical treatment is really ready.

00:32:51.620 Sleeping giant one writes about Leslie Lewis, love this woman, and we'll be proud to call her a representative of Canada.

00:32:59.620 She's educated and more qualified than the drama teacher. Ain't that the truth? 0.93

00:33:04.620 And frankly, has bigger balls to tackle the issues in our society and earth head on and answers people's valid questions on what the hell has been happening in this country.

00:33:16.620 And to talk about Canadian sovereignty as a major issue.

00:33:20.620 Finally, because nobody else from this current government is.

00:33:36.620 Let's try that again. Sorry.

00:33:38.620 Finally, because nobody else from this current government is.

00:33:40.620 Real journalists like Rebel News should be asking why this conservative leader is one of the only ones talking about these real problems.

00:33:46.620 Hope she wins.

00:33:47.620 Well, I can tell you why nobody else is talking about it because while the liberals, their only philosophy is control and power.

00:33:56.620 And one of the best ways to control and wield their power over you is through the COVID scare and COVID mandates.

00:34:03.620 So either they control you with legislation laws and mandates or they just control your mind through fear porn that is being barfed into your face thanks to the nightly news.

00:34:16.620 Who are which, by the way, subsidized by Justin Trudeau. He's their paymaster.

00:34:21.620 So that's why nobody else is talking about it.

00:34:24.620 And if you do talk about it like Leslie Lewis is, guess who attacks her?

00:34:27.620 Justin Trudeau's attack dogs in the mainstream media.

00:34:30.620 But it has been refreshing to see that she will not buckle.

00:34:35.620 She, Leslie Lewis, will not buckle to that outside pressure of the media.

00:34:41.620 That's a new thing in conservative politics.

00:34:45.620 We saw Andrew Scheer buckle.

00:34:46.620 We saw Erin O'Toole buckle. 0.88

00:34:48.620 But this woman, you're right. 1.00

00:34:50.620 Big cojones. 0.97

00:34:51.620 SheWolf7 says there should be a Nuremberg trials about the COVID-19 mandates and deaths. 0.92

00:34:58.620 I think we are just only scratching the surface of the problems that are likely going to be manifesting in young, otherwise healthy people in the very near future.

00:35:13.620 But I'm also worried that nobody will be ever held accountable for it.

00:35:18.620 And they did their best, didn't they, to eliminate the control group.

00:35:23.620 The young, healthy people who didn't get the vaccine.

00:35:27.620 And they did their best to do that by taking away your freedom to travel, to go out, to have friends and family around you.

00:35:38.620 They did their best to rob you of your freedom and unfairly coerce you into getting a medical treatment you didn't want.

00:35:46.620 And I think after it became evident that the vaccines were not as effective as they said they were, the push to get everybody vaccinated was not about vaccination, but about hiding their tracks, making sure there was nobody to compare anybody else to and see the difference in outcomes.

00:36:09.620 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:36:12.620 I'm so excited that this Conservative Party election campaign is finally over.

00:36:18.620 We can get down to the real business of getting rid of Justin Trudeau once all those details are sorted out.

00:36:25.620 Thanks so much for tuning in.

00:36:27.620 Thanks to everybody in the office in Toronto for putting the show together and everybody who works behind the scenes in Toronto, but also across the rest of the country to make sure that the show is there for when you need and want to watch it.

00:36:41.620 As Ezra always says, keep fighting for freedom and don't eat the bugs.

00:36:46.620 Have fun.

00:36:53.620 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - September 06, 2022

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Best of the 2022 Conservative Party leadership campaign

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