Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Carney's Gun Grab Explodes： Minister Caught Admitting Buyback Can't Work

00:00:00.000 What's been going on with the gun grab while I was away in Edgewood, BC at the Battle of the Birds?

00:00:07.400 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gun Show.

00:00:10.060 The Gun Show

00:00:40.060 with no cell service, working around the clock with my friend Drea Humphrey to cover what

00:00:45.820 I've been calling the Battle of the Birds, the fight to keep 400 otherwise healthy ostriches

00:00:52.580 owned by Universal Ostrich Farms safe and alive, protected from the hands of assassins who

00:01:01.140 work for the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, the CFIA.

00:01:04.680 The CFIA has a complete cull order on the birds as part of a stamping out policy for

00:01:12.820 avian flu.

00:01:13.580 The birds were exposed to avian flu as I filmed this 255 days ago and the ones that remain

00:01:21.660 have antibodies and they are not sick and they don't pose a threat to public health at all.

00:01:30.020 You can tell by the amount of people that are constantly at the farm who are not in PPE and

00:01:35.800 who have not become sick, including me, but a lot of RCMP officers too.

00:01:40.900 So that's what I was doing.

00:01:42.820 And as I said, we were really struggling with internet connection there and upload speeds.

00:01:46.620 Um, but I was able to film an intro and an outro to a live stream while I was waiting on the

00:01:54.580 ferry somewhere near the cusp, British Columbia.

00:01:59.580 So there, there was something there for you in 10 years of the gun show.

00:02:03.140 I've never, ever, ever missed a show.

00:02:05.520 And as I said, I'm not going to have those ostrich assassins at the CFIA be the reason I start

00:02:12.220 now.

00:02:12.860 So you were patient with me and I thought maybe I could do a little something for you

00:02:19.560 viewers at home because the show I gave you was not new content.

00:02:24.460 It was the live stream from earlier that day and you deserve better.

00:02:29.120 You support our work and you're faithful supporters of my work.

00:02:35.580 And I want to make sure that I rise to the occasion for you.

00:02:39.100 So I had an extra show for you this week.

00:02:44.780 I planned an extra show.

00:02:45.860 We threw it together while I was on my way home.

00:02:48.580 I got home.

00:02:49.360 It's Thursday as I'm filming this in the early hours of Thursday morning.

00:02:53.520 My friend Rod Giltaka of the CCFR, the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights, agreed to join

00:03:04.200 me to update me, but also you in a lot of the moving parts of this latest scandal with Public

00:03:13.120 Safety Minister Gary Anandasangari, who accidentally told the truth to a tenant in one of his properties

00:03:20.840 about the gun grab.

00:03:22.700 Then he said he was joking.

00:03:23.720 And now we have a very limited pot of money to go towards the buyback program, which of

00:03:35.180 course is not a buyback program at all.

00:03:36.960 So what happens when all that money is gone?

00:03:39.180 Do the liberals know how many guns they are supposed to be buying back?

00:03:44.160 No, they don't.

00:03:45.460 And what's happening with police forces across the country?

00:03:48.320 Some are participating, some aren't.

00:03:49.940 So here's the interview I recorded just moments ago with Rod Giltaka from the CCFR.

00:03:57.520 Take a listen.

00:04:05.420 So joining me now is Rod Giltaka of the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights.

00:04:10.520 And I don't know about you, but I've been in the ostrich universe for the better part of

00:04:15.760 this week.

00:04:16.320 So I have missed a lot.

00:04:17.880 Of course, as a firearms owner, I'm watching out of the corner of my eye about what's happening

00:04:22.160 with the so-called gun buyback, which is not a buyback at all, but a confiscation with

00:04:27.460 maybe compensation.

00:04:30.700 Maybe if you're one of the first people to turn in your guns, I guess you'll get compensation.

00:04:35.360 But things are changing.

00:04:37.600 You know, we had leaked audio.

00:04:39.840 Then Gary Anandasangari, our public safety minister, said, oh, just joshing you.

00:04:44.840 And then now we have police forces say they're not going to participate.

00:04:50.060 They've got better things to do.

00:04:51.020 And then other police forces say, we are proud to stand up for law and order and take your

00:04:56.340 guns on behalf of Gary Anandasangari.

00:04:58.260 So I'm glad Rod is here because I think he needs to bring me up to speed.

00:05:02.880 Rod, let's start from the beginning.

00:05:05.220 I know Tracy was on Ezra's show this week, but sometimes I don't always watch Ezra's show.

00:05:11.860 And I know sometimes our viewers don't always get all of Ezra's show.

00:05:15.820 So let's start at the very beginning.

00:05:18.860 We get leaked audio from our public safety minister, Gary Anandasangari, saying that he wishes,

00:05:29.280 I guess, that the gun buyback wasn't happening because I think he thinks, even he thinks it's

00:05:37.460 politically toxic.

00:05:39.280 Well, I guess the easy rundown of what he said in this conversation was, don't ask me to explain

00:05:46.380 the logic to you.

00:05:47.260 Basically telling this gun owner that there is no logic to this program.

00:05:51.980 He says, this is about votes in Quebec, admits that, uh, he admits that Carney said, you

00:05:58.580 know, views this as a, as an election promise.

00:06:01.080 And then it just has to be followed through for some reason.

00:06:05.120 Um, and then he goes even further when the gun owner says, if I don't comply, well, I guess

00:06:11.460 there's an argument about it being voluntary.

00:06:13.000 And he says, no, it's voluntary.

00:06:14.260 You don't have to comply.

00:06:15.440 And he's like, well, if I don't comply, I'm going to go to jail.

00:06:18.100 And he says, well, I will bail you out.

00:06:19.760 So this is a, this is a tenant of Gary's.

00:06:21.980 Apparently Gary has some rental properties, hasn't been keeping up with the repairs.

00:06:26.840 So this individual who's a gun owner records this conversation because it's actually about

00:06:31.320 his rental.

00:06:32.060 And then Gary launches into this conversation about the buyback.

00:06:35.780 And then it gets even worse because the gun owner then complains or previously complains.

00:06:40.200 Well, the pricing that you're giving is not going to cover my costs.

00:06:43.720 I thought we were, I thought none of this was our fault and we were going to get compensated

00:06:47.660 for this because this is all your idea.

00:06:49.240 And he says, well, don't worry.

00:06:51.080 I will pay the difference out of my pocket to you.

00:06:54.720 And then of course, when he gets caught, because liberals always tell the truth when they think

00:06:58.780 no one's listening, then he's like, oh yeah, I was just joking.

00:07:01.440 Their first reflex, Sheila, sorry for going on and on, but this is, this is really important.

00:07:06.160 The first reflex that these people have is to lie.

00:07:10.240 I don't even think they think about an answer.

00:07:12.540 They're just like, come up with some lie and take no accountability for what you've done.

00:07:16.160 And it's been going on and on and on for days. 1.00

00:07:19.580 And the lie is so stupid. 1.00

00:07:22.040 Like it's so stupid. 1.00

00:07:23.580 It's an insult to the intelligence of Canadians. 1.00

00:07:26.340 You know, as it turns out, the gun buyback, and I'm going to say it in scare quotes till

00:07:32.200 the day I die, it's set to launch in Cape Breton.

00:07:35.840 And there's a budget cap of $742 million to compensate gun owners who will voluntarily,

00:07:42.180 whatever that means, turn in their now banned firearms.

00:07:45.900 But what happens after the $742 million is gone?

00:07:53.160 You know, like people like me are reluctant to, and I say that with the big, big capital

00:07:59.520 letters, reluctant, as in never, reluctant to participate in this program.

00:08:05.540 So if you are not an early adopter of the liberals' coercion, you're going to get screwed in the end.

00:08:12.420 This is a really, really big deal.

00:08:16.180 So overall, anyone in media hasn't, they haven't quite caught on to this yet.

00:08:21.540 And this has to be discussed.

00:08:23.680 So we were in a technical briefing with public safety over what the buyback is going to look

00:08:28.660 like.

00:08:29.080 So it's going to take a second to explain, but it is, this is a major conspiracy slash

00:08:33.720 scandal, like really big and dangerous.

00:08:36.700 And I don't say, I don't say that lightly.

00:08:38.340 So we're in this technical briefing and they're like, this is a capped program with a capped

00:08:42.840 budget of $742 million.

00:08:45.800 The budget has already been dipped into for the retail buyback.

00:08:50.420 And I said, okay, well, what happens when the budget runs out?

00:08:54.520 They're like, we don't pay any compensation.

00:08:56.280 So that means that the people that have exposed what they have to the government through this

00:09:02.000 portal, then that means that they are just going to have to provide their firearms to

00:09:07.900 the government with no compensation or deactivate them at anywhere from four to $700 each out

00:09:15.320 of their pocket or export them to, I don't know where, or hang on to them and have this

00:09:23.980 criminal offense or a series of multiple counts of criminal offense hanging over their head

00:09:28.920 for the rest of their lives.

00:09:30.060 Now, this is the interesting thing.

00:09:32.520 So I said, okay, well, how far does 742 million or whatever, right?

00:09:36.980 Seven, 650, whatever's left.

00:09:39.180 How far does that go?

00:09:41.100 And public safety says we've, it's for 152,000 firearms.

00:09:47.260 And I'm like 152,000.

00:09:49.960 There's like 90,000 ARs.

00:09:52.480 Right.

00:09:52.960 And he's like, yeah, restricted firearms, previously restricted firearms that are now

00:09:58.240 prohib, we know that number because we have those records, 126,000.

00:10:03.180 And then plus there's the retail buyback.

00:10:05.500 And I'm like, so you're, you're budgeting for another 20,000 firearms?

00:10:11.020 And he's like, yeah, we're pretty confident in that number.

00:10:13.480 I'm like, how?

00:10:15.160 I'm like, wait a second.

00:10:15.960 All of the 22s, the GSG-16s out there, all the Ruger PC carbines, all the 50 cals that

00:10:23.580 go for 7,000 to 20,000 a piece, the double barrel rifles out there that are like a hundred

00:10:29.780 thousand dollars.

00:10:31.040 There are probably hundreds and hundreds of thousands of these firearms out there.

00:10:36.160 And you intend to compensate people for 20,000.

00:10:40.000 And he goes, well, we're confident in this number.

00:10:41.980 And I, unfortunately, I called it the way I saw it, which is, I said, this is diabolical

00:10:48.880 because it's going, what they're trying to do is create a race, right?

00:10:52.780 So all of us are sitting there.

00:10:54.040 They're like, okay, the portal's open.

00:10:56.260 Everyone runs in there, tells the government what they have.

00:11:00.280 They, they, they agree.

00:11:02.620 And you don't know that whether you're going to get compensation until weeks or months later,

00:11:06.080 then they roll out their 20,000 firearm checks, right?

00:11:10.340 And everyone else is like, we know what you have.

00:11:12.580 You turn it in for free, or you're going to go to jail.

00:11:16.240 And what's interesting.

00:11:18.580 And it took me a couple of days and reading a few tweets and having to kind of move this

00:11:22.500 around in my head.

00:11:23.100 And this is the scary part.

00:11:24.840 I think they're doing this on purpose.

00:11:27.140 They want everyone to run in, tell them what they have.

00:11:30.600 And then they want non-compliance, especially with people like me or you, because then they'll

00:11:37.620 say, and Ananda Sangari said in this conversation, don't worry, the police aren't going to enforce

00:11:42.720 it.

00:11:43.360 They'll sit there and it's like, Rod, you shut your mouth.

00:11:46.420 If you become a problem, we have you admitting that you have these guns in your home attached

00:11:51.500 to your license.

00:11:52.480 And we will serve a search warrant.

00:11:54.080 Turn your house upside down.

00:11:55.200 Maybe you'll be Roger, Roger Katenko'd in the process. 0.96

00:11:58.300 So if you don't want that to happen, you just shut your mouth.

00:12:03.140 And a hate speech charge after that.

00:12:06.060 So this is truly diabolical.

00:12:08.700 This is going back on what they said, as if that's even a factor.

00:12:12.880 But yeah, it's hard to believe that they're even this bull to do this. 0.99

00:12:18.700 This is some sinister liberal garbage. 1.00

00:12:22.180 The gun grab is bad enough. 1.00

00:12:24.120 And also, let's also consider that they are shoehorning guns onto that list all the time

00:12:30.800 still.

00:12:31.700 So they're capping it at 20,000 and they couldn't possibly know that number because they were

00:12:38.660 non-restricted and then all of a sudden prohib just like that.

00:12:41.920 So they don't know that number.

00:12:43.520 They don't have that data.

00:12:44.460 They're just guessing.

00:12:45.820 But they are also adding guns to that number all the time.

00:12:49.380 They're creating scarcity and urgency, and they're going to use it against firearms owners

00:12:54.900 if they participate in peaceful civil disobedience.

00:12:58.060 And now they want the SKS on there.

00:12:59.960 Of course they do.

00:13:01.080 I bet you there's half a million SKSs in Canada.

00:13:02.960 Of course they do.

00:13:04.000 That's everybody's first gun show rifle because it's cheap.

00:13:07.980 It's customizable.

00:13:08.980 It's cheap to shoot.

00:13:11.220 And they know that.

00:13:12.840 They know that.

00:13:14.800 This is just an absolute nightmare.

00:13:17.940 Every time they announce something, it gets even worse.

00:13:23.060 And they are, as he said, willing to screw the entire country over to buy votes in Quebec.

00:13:28.580 And we knew that when they hand-selected the head of Pauly Sissouvian, Natalie Provo, to

00:13:34.440 be one of their candidates there.

00:13:36.000 I knew that that meant that they were going to not just continue with Justin Trudeau's gun

00:13:42.140 grab, but lean harder into it.

00:13:44.460 And this is what we're seeing.

00:13:45.400 Yeah, I, the, the, the notion of them not wanting compliance and wanting something to

00:13:53.420 hold over the heads of probably two, two or three or 400,000 Canadians.

00:13:57.820 Yeah.

00:13:58.280 Like I would, you know, I, I don't like to jump on things like that.

00:14:02.600 And it's like, oh, this is what they want.

00:14:04.100 They want non-compliance.

00:14:05.260 They want to be able to, to raid your home and put you in handcuffs and destroy your life.

00:14:09.700 Like for people like you and me, a criminal charge, a weapons charge, much less whatever,

00:14:14.440 how many people, how many guns do people have that are on this list?

00:14:17.920 You know, like 16 of them.

00:14:19.560 Yeah.

00:14:20.220 16, 16 counts of unauthorized possession of a prohibited firearm.

00:14:24.120 That's that equals machine gun in the eyes of the law.

00:14:26.460 You know, I would, you know, I'm, I'm reluctant to believe, oh yeah, the government wants this.

00:14:31.960 They absolutely want it. 0.99

00:14:33.460 This, they, these, these people are not stupid. 0.99

00:14:35.640 They're doing this for a reason. 0.99

00:14:36.960 And I normally don't talk like this, but holy smokes, man, I can't even believe it myself.

00:14:40.900 Yeah, it's, it's not a conspiracy theory when it turns into a conspiracy fact real quick.

00:14:48.260 I mean, this is the same sinister and as you say, diabolical, what a great word for this

00:14:53.200 government that froze people's bank accounts because they supported a peaceful resistance

00:14:59.740 movement.

00:15:00.340 You think they wouldn't hang a criminal charge or several criminal charges over your head

00:15:04.740 just to shut you up because you're a thorn in the side of the government?

00:15:07.540 Absolutely. 0.88

00:15:08.160 They would.

00:15:09.680 Oh yeah.

00:15:10.320 They'll, I'm, I'm sure they'll be coming after me and you and everyone else that is

00:15:15.300 law abiding that, you know, like a criminal charge like this would destroy my life.

00:15:19.520 Yeah.

00:15:20.020 Yeah.

00:15:20.340 And of course, criminals, like none of this has anything to do with criminals.

00:15:23.220 It doesn't affect the lives of criminals one iota, but even if it did, the criminals

00:15:27.860 are like, yeah, add it to my rap sheet.

00:15:29.400 That gives me credibility in jail anyway.

00:15:31.260 Like it's, it doesn't even register in the minds of people that would hurt other people

00:15:35.980 only to people like us, the, the producing law abiding beneficial aspect of Canadian society

00:15:43.500 directly targeted.

00:15:45.720 So I, I don't know.

00:15:48.200 Um, at this point in our system, obviously the only thing that can pull this back is

00:15:52.800 a majority or a minority government.

00:15:54.640 That's the only thing that can stop this other than, you know, trying to wreck everything,

00:15:59.480 some big civil war, but it's going to destroy everything we built over 150 years.

00:16:03.780 It's going to create a big power vacuum.

00:16:05.340 Like people talk like that, but it's, I don't know that you want the reality there.

00:16:09.160 So that is the only way out is somehow getting ahold of the government and the system as it

00:16:14.120 is today.

00:16:14.600 And I don't know when that's going to happen.

00:16:16.540 Um, I guess there's a silver lining in some of this is that depending on which province

00:16:23.300 that you're in, um, and Doug Ford's province is shockingly conservative on this issue, which

00:16:29.360 surprised even me.

00:16:31.100 Um, but as, as we earlier discussed, the, the rollout of this program is starting in Cape

00:16:37.000 Breton.

00:16:37.840 Apparently the police there have agreed to, uh, participate in this, but Ontario.

00:16:44.480 Ontario has said they're, they're not going to direct their police resources to any sort

00:16:48.740 of gun grub.

00:16:49.320 Alberta has said repeatedly, look, we're not doing this.

00:16:52.080 We've got actual bad guys to harass and not our friends and neighbors, but British Columbia

00:16:57.280 has said, yeah, sure.

00:16:58.900 We're proud to stand, uh, stand up for the law, I guess, even if it's a bad law.

00:17:05.720 I mean, BC has a crime problem, a gang problem, a fentanyl super lab problem that is throwing

00:17:13.660 a monkey wrench into our relationship with the Americans cartels, and yet this is where

00:17:21.340 the BC government led by the NDP would see fit to direct their police resources.

00:17:26.600 It won't make one bit of difference in crime on paper at all.

00:17:30.800 Yeah. 1.00

00:17:30.940 They're absolute lunatics. 1.00

00:17:32.200 Yeah. 1.00

00:17:32.580 Total lunatics. 0.99

00:17:33.940 Like this has gone so far be beyond a difference of opinion or different politics. 0.99

00:17:38.860 It's gone so far beyond all that.

00:17:41.680 I don't, yeah, I don't know.

00:17:43.420 I don't know how it gets turned around.

00:17:45.220 I just don't know.

00:17:47.300 Uh, I think Saskatchewan has said the same thing.

00:17:49.780 I don't want to leave them out, um, because they've really sort of been leading the way,

00:17:53.960 but honestly, Albert has been stealing their good ideas for a while.

00:17:57.000 And I say that as an Albertan, you know, like having a, uh, chief firearms officer, having

00:18:02.480 a, you know, associate minister of fighting with, uh, the federal government, um, you know,

00:18:09.180 being strong on the carbon tax, a lot of good ideas come out of Saskatchewan where they're

00:18:13.760 just a little bit less showboaty than Albert is.

00:18:18.500 But, uh, I'm, I'm happy that there are some provinces where it is still, uh, safe to be a

00:18:25.480 firearms owner, but I would hate to be somebody in the interior of BC where firearms ownership

00:18:31.340 is a way of life, um, being treated like a gangster in, uh, you know, then the lower

00:18:39.260 mainland.

00:18:40.200 Yeah.

00:18:40.800 And I think it's really important, uh, for people to know kind of what's going on with

00:18:44.180 the Alberta government with their proposals.

00:18:46.620 They have obviously the legislation that prevents, uh, confiscation agents and they're working

00:18:52.300 on the Alberta firearms license.

00:18:54.040 So I, I have met with the Alberta government, um, one week ago and the problem is, and people

00:19:00.160 should know this cause this is important, especially if you're in Alberta, the problem

00:19:03.940 is this is very complicated and the Alberta government is working on it.

00:19:08.580 I know people get frustrated and they lose their patience and now they want to lash out

00:19:12.480 at even their allies in the, uh, Alberta government.

00:19:15.740 You've got to be really careful about that.

00:19:17.320 So I'll tell you what the problem is.

00:19:19.400 The problem is, is that the province, uh, has, uh, has jurisdiction over property rights.

00:19:25.720 The federal government has jurisdiction over criminal behavior.

00:19:29.340 And in this case, the criminal code and the firearms act, if you are in peaceful possession

00:19:34.660 of a firearm in Alberta, no problem.

00:19:37.020 That's, that's, that's the jurisdiction of the province.

00:19:40.140 The issue is, is if the federal government ends the amnesty, everyone that has these firearms

00:19:46.680 are now in unlawful, unauthorized possession of a prohibited firearm that triggers the criminal

00:19:51.600 code.

00:19:52.660 And now even let's say the Calgary police are obligated to serve a warrant on your home because

00:19:59.260 now you are actually truly a criminal. 0.64

00:20:01.820 So it doesn't, the, an Alberta firearms license doesn't protect you now they're working on

00:20:06.880 it, but this is, I just want people to understand these are very complicated problems.

00:20:11.620 Your government is working on it, but it's not something they can do in a week or just

00:20:16.080 scratch a note on a piece of paper and file it in the legislature.

00:20:19.380 Right?

00:20:19.900 So you got to be patient, keep the pressure up, but don't cut your nose off to spite your

00:20:25.180 face.

00:20:25.560 And that happens in the firearm community.

00:20:27.600 It's happening all over the place.

00:20:29.280 Just be really careful that you have a plan for both success and failure in your political

00:20:33.880 goals so that you don't end up hurting yourself later.

00:20:36.900 Cause the last thing you want is if let's say, and I was just mentioning this at the

00:20:41.000 conference on the weekend, if there's a bid for, for independence in Alberta, and I think

00:20:47.020 a lot of people are going all in on independence.

00:20:49.120 Don't worry.

00:20:49.940 It's going to happen.

00:20:51.240 And we can beat up on the UCP if they're not working fast enough.

00:20:54.720 Well, what happens if you are unsuccessful and leaving Confederation now you beat up

00:20:59.980 on the party that was helping you in so many ways, then there's an election and you end

00:21:04.260 up with the NDP and you think you're, you're hurting now.

00:21:07.020 You'll be hurting a lot worse than.

00:21:08.980 Right.

00:21:09.320 That's such a great point.

00:21:10.780 And I do know the UCP is working very hard behind the scenes to protect law-abiding Canadian

00:21:16.640 gun owners in a way that I don't think the other provinces really are.

00:21:21.420 They're being as, as creative as they possibly can on this issue, but they do find themselves

00:21:26.860 in these, in this zone of competing jurisdiction.

00:21:30.260 And, you know, there is, you've, the firearms community does feel a sense of urgency, especially

00:21:36.760 when, you know, there's the, the payout system will run out of money very quickly.

00:21:44.840 And so, yeah, I, I get why they would stop and direct that urgency to the United Conservative

00:21:52.080 Party because the United Conservative Party has been responsive to them when it's pretty

00:21:56.220 clear that the liberals couldn't give a damn about us.

00:22:00.260 Yeah, it's a, it's, it's a difficult situation.

00:22:04.280 It's, it's very nuanced, right?

00:22:06.000 Yeah.

00:22:06.460 And, and as I said, we have the same problem in the, in the firearms community.

00:22:10.520 People are so frustrated.

00:22:11.900 They're so angry.

00:22:12.660 It's like, yeah, and, and absolutely justifiably so, but they turn around and they start beating

00:22:18.520 up on their allies, right?

00:22:20.160 It's an, and, and throwing out all these, uh, purity tests.

00:22:23.920 Yeah.

00:22:24.160 So if you, you know, people are saying to the, to the CCFR, you know, you should be advocating

00:22:28.720 non-compliance.

00:22:29.500 Like I can't counsel you to commit a criminal offense because that's a problem for me.

00:22:34.040 And if the CCFR goes down, that's a real problem for all gun owners, right?

00:22:38.440 So it's like you, you got to, and I mean, I'm telling, it's almost like I'm telling you

00:22:43.500 this, Sheila, because I'm telling myself, you got to take it easy, take it down a couple

00:22:48.700 notches.

00:22:49.320 Yeah.

00:22:49.760 Think about your situation, how you're going to solve this problem, what your options are.

00:22:53.240 And the last thing we need is division in our community.

00:22:56.400 We just need to keep pushing forward.

00:22:58.260 And I'm hoping that if you asked me four months ago, I would have said this government's going

00:23:02.540 to last three years and they're going to whatever, finish the job that Trudeau started.

00:23:06.780 But more and more, I'm thinking this government might not last another year and that's going

00:23:11.040 to be our hail Mary.

00:23:11.920 So hopefully we can get an election, we can elect a minority or majority government, warts

00:23:19.880 and all, but we can work to, to within the party to get things headed in the right direction.

00:23:25.700 And maybe we'll be able to get out of this without things getting worse than they are

00:23:29.940 right now.

00:23:30.780 Right.

00:23:31.080 Yeah.

00:23:31.340 Sometimes in the pursuit of perfection, uh, people end up with failure.

00:23:36.220 And, uh, I, I don't want that because it, I really don't think it could possibly be worse

00:23:42.820 than it is right now.

00:23:43.620 Maybe an NDP government, but also what's the difference between the liberals and an NDP

00:23:49.560 government right now.

00:23:50.860 Anyway, um, I'm, I'm glad to hear that you're hopeful that this government might not last.

00:23:56.460 I mean, this Gary and Ed Sangry business is becoming a real problem for Mark Carney.

00:24:01.820 He said he stands with the minister and I still don't understand why Gary and Ed Sangry

00:24:06.120 is the minister at all, given his ties to Tamil extremism that were so deep that the Sri Lankan

00:24:13.140 foreign ministry warned us about it back when his nomination papers were signed, uh, you

00:24:19.240 know, the better part of a decade ago. 0.98

00:24:20.840 So, um, I think maybe Gary and Ed Sangry was selected because he was just dumb enough to 0.97

00:24:26.940 do the job without asking questions. 0.98

00:24:29.140 Exactly.

00:24:29.800 He was, he was selected for the same reason Marco Mendocino was selected.

00:24:33.180 Yes. 0.99

00:24:33.320 They just needed some dumb, dumb to throw in there, to get tarred and feathered right 1.00

00:24:37.400 by the, by the press, by gunners, whatever, just to be a placeholder, to be tossed aside 0.99

00:24:42.760 and back benched later once he's been used up and, and just keep this whole disarmament

00:24:48.620 campaign going.

00:24:49.880 So that's, you know, I mean, you, you have really two kinds of ministers, right? 0.99

00:24:55.420 You have the dumb, dumbs and I, you know, I usually don't use language like that, but 0.99

00:24:59.920 it is what it is like Gary and Mendocino. 1.00

00:25:03.180 And then you have the foot soldiers.

00:25:05.400 Yeah.

00:25:05.860 Right.

00:25:06.440 Um, like Bill Blair.

00:25:07.600 Yeah.

00:25:08.060 Dominic LeBlanc.

00:25:09.020 Yeah.

00:25:09.280 These are seriously bad people.

00:25:11.020 And this is how they, this is how they keep that agenda rolling forward.

00:25:14.060 Um, uh, on that dark note, Rod, thank you so much for giving me some time to explain this

00:25:21.900 to me, because as I said, I've been in the ostrich universe for a few days.

00:25:26.300 Um, but please tell us about what the CCFR is working on right now and how people can

00:25:33.120 get involved because you do a very important work constantly.

00:25:37.080 We might not hear about all the work that you're doing, but I know you and Tracy are constantly

00:25:41.360 grinding the gears behind the scenes on behalf of law abiding Canadians.

00:25:46.520 Well, our last project was our election project.

00:25:49.420 We were the fifth largest third party advertiser in the entire country, including, you know, larger,

00:25:55.580 larger advertising, uh, budget that we spent on the, on the election than even most of

00:26:00.800 the public sector unions in Canada.

00:26:02.620 So that's unprecedented.

00:26:04.280 Um, this was, this last election was the most important in a generation.

00:26:08.360 So we, we stepped up.

00:26:10.220 We, we even held, had TV ads during the Stanley Cup playoffs.

00:26:14.120 Yeah.

00:26:14.520 Very difficult to actually to do that much less expensive.

00:26:17.880 So we do have a Hail Mary project coming up.

00:26:20.640 Probably the biggest thing we've ever done.

00:26:22.300 We're working on that now.

00:26:23.480 But anyway, if you want to help the CCFR continue to, um, punch the government in the face, you

00:26:27.960 can do that at CCFR.ca, become a member or donate.

00:26:32.540 Yes.

00:26:32.760 And you guys have a great merch store too.

00:26:35.940 Like that's, it's a great way to show your support for the firearms community.

00:26:40.780 Um, just, you know, quite literally wear it on your sleeve and the shirts are fun.

00:26:45.940 Uh, Tracy sends me a few every now and then, and I just love them, but I have to fight my

00:26:50.120 daughters for them.

00:26:54.600 Rod, thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:26:56.280 Um, I, I appreciate all the work that you do on behalf of law abiding Canadians, whether

00:27:01.460 they're a member of the CCFR or not, you're fighting for the firearms community and, and

00:27:05.080 you're so right.

00:27:05.720 Uh, now is not the time for division and purity tests.

00:27:09.300 We all need to work in the right direction, um, to make sure that we can still hang on

00:27:14.340 to our hunting and sports shooting heritage.

00:27:17.380 Yeah.

00:27:17.900 I really appreciate the opportunity, Sheila.

00:27:19.780 Thanks, Ron.

00:27:20.220 As always in a regular gun show, the last portion of the show goes to you.

00:27:33.360 I give you my email address right now.

00:27:35.700 It's Sheila at rebel news.com.

00:27:37.600 If you've got something to say about the show with Rod or any of the work that we do at rebel

00:27:43.260 news, and you want me to potentially read your letter on air, send me an email again.

00:27:50.040 That's Sheila at rebel news.com.

00:27:52.080 Please put gun show letters in the subject line.

00:27:54.540 So I know why you're emailing me because I sometimes, depending on the controversial thing

00:27:58.460 that I've said, or is happening in the world that you think you, you need to tell me about,

00:28:04.840 I can get like hundreds of emails a day.

00:28:08.000 So it just helps me find you.

00:28:10.020 So, and what you have to say, if you just put gun show letters in the subject line.

00:28:13.680 Now, today's gun show comes to me by way of Terrence Rollick in Lacoma, Alberta.

00:28:24.560 And he says, hi, Sheila.

00:28:27.020 The recent Charlie Kirk tragedy allowed me to finally grasp the woke left's obsession with

00:28:33.720 civil disarmament.

00:28:35.300 Isn't this a providential email?

00:28:37.360 Because we're just talking about civil disarmament with Rod.

00:28:42.320 And you sent me an email last week about civil disarmament.

00:28:46.640 The conservatives believe that law-abiding licensed gun owners possess firearms for hunting,

00:28:51.740 sports shooting, and self-defense in extreme situations where preservation of themselves

00:28:55.700 and their loved ones leaves them with no other choice.

00:28:59.060 The radical left believes, as has been so clearly shown, that firearms serve to eliminate

00:29:04.320 those who disagree with them.

00:29:06.080 This seems to be so ingrained in their ideology that they firmly believe that the right wing

00:29:11.540 must naturally feel the same way about them.

00:29:15.580 Hence, firearms must be removed from society for the sake of preserving the woke left.

00:29:19.800 So the liberals are willing to spend billions of taxpayer dollars just to allow them this dubious

00:29:24.620 sense of security.

00:29:25.500 Such paranoia makes no sense, but then nothing the woke left has done has ever made sense

00:29:31.480 to me.

00:29:32.060 Cheers, Terrence.

00:29:33.960 You know, Terrence, that's such a great point.

00:29:37.180 And that the liberals, and I don't mean the liberal government, I mean the liberals, people

00:29:44.240 on the other side of the argument from us, they don't understand us because they think

00:29:51.980 a certain way about the world and they must, they think that we must be the same.

00:29:58.220 And yes, it's true.

00:29:59.880 You know, when we see this rise of left wing violence with firearms, and even the Atlantic

00:30:07.480 is saying that now, that yes, the left has a violence problem.

00:30:12.360 And so, you know, the Atlantic is not actually a very conservative publication by any stretch

00:30:18.760 of the imagination, but they are saying it now.

00:30:20.480 So even the left is admitting it.

00:30:22.360 But I think you have, there's some truth to what you're saying there, where the left knows

00:30:29.360 that they have an inherent violence problem, and they probably shouldn't have access to

00:30:33.780 firearms.

00:30:34.420 So we must be like them.

00:30:37.860 We must have the same defects, impulses to violence, and we just don't.

00:30:44.300 And actually, there's some data that plays that out.

00:30:47.440 I think it's from YouGov.

00:30:48.940 Michael Knowles talked about it on his show this week, and the reason I know that is because

00:30:52.940 I had a very long drive home from the ostrich farm, and I just listened to Michael Knowles

00:30:58.100 talk about this, where young conservatives, like the youngest conservatives, like 18 to

00:31:03.920 35, when asked if they think that there is ever a reason to use violence to achieve their

00:31:12.440 political gains, they are the least likely to say yes.

00:31:15.540 Like it's 8%, something like that.

00:31:17.440 And then the moderates are a little more than that.

00:31:21.000 And then the liberals, I think it's like 30% of young liberals think it's okay to use

00:31:26.580 violence to achieve political ends, which is, you know, kind of the definition of terrorism.

00:31:30.640 So 30% of young liberals today think terrorism is justified to achieve their political ends.

00:31:38.600 That's a problem.

00:31:40.000 And that's why they want to ban guns from us, because they think we have the same defective

00:31:47.080 impulses to violence that they do, and we just don't.

00:31:51.000 And the point I was going to make is that we see this all the time with helping the underprivileged,

00:31:56.780 right?

00:31:57.000 We as conservatives, whether it be through our religious motivations or a sense of moral

00:32:06.960 obligation to our community or whatever, we like to give charity voluntarily to the charities

00:32:15.600 we want to give to, to the people that we want to help.

00:32:17.700 Well, the liberals want the state to do that because they won't do it voluntarily, right?

00:32:23.900 The liberals want all these enormous social programs paid for by our tax dollars because

00:32:30.400 they know that they won't donate to charities out of the goodness of their heart.

00:32:36.500 They just don't have that in them the way that conservatives do.

00:32:40.220 So that's why they are like, the government should do it, because they cannot appropriately

00:32:46.260 govern themselves.

00:32:49.080 And here's where we are in society.

00:32:51.540 What, as I said, providential viewer email to me, not just on this topic, but, you know,

00:32:59.300 the things that we're seeing in the world today.

00:33:01.140 It's absolutely true.

00:33:02.520 And interestingly enough, I just listened to the Michael Knowles show Wednesdays, Michael

00:33:08.880 Knowles show, if you get a chance, please listen, because he breaks down all this data.

00:33:14.040 And I was like, as you get lower in age, the conservative impulse to violence actually

00:33:22.720 gets lower and the liberal impulse to violence actually gets higher.

00:33:26.360 It's fascinating, but absolutely true.

00:33:29.320 And yet they keep saying that we are responsible for all the political violence and the data just

00:33:36.240 doesn't support that.

00:33:37.260 They know it.

00:33:38.240 All right.

00:33:39.900 Well, everybody, that's the show for today.

00:33:41.520 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:33:42.560 Thank you for your patience with me this week and to Olivia behind the scenes, who is going

00:33:49.720 to do extra work because I insist on doing extra work to produce the show.

00:33:54.980 Thank you, Olivia.

00:33:56.680 And I'll see everybody back here in the same time.

00:33:59.660 God knows if it's the same place next week.

00:34:01.500 I could be back at the ostrich farm, but I will be doing my work no matter what I'm doing.

00:34:05.440 And as we always say on the show here, don't let the government tell you that you've had

00:34:09.780 too much to think.

00:34:10.640 Thank you.

00:34:12.640 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - September 28, 2025

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Carney's Gun Grab Explodes： Minister Caught Admitting Buyback Can't Work

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