00:02:50.640And it documents what really happened at Universal Ostrich Farm during their standoff with the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, which ultimately ended in a call of hundreds of otherwise healthy ostriches after they had been exposed to the avian flu.
00:03:11.440It was a standoff in the politest of ways that lasted hundreds of days, but the birds were never tested by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency before they were killed.
00:03:27.480The Canadian Food Inspection Agency, the CFIA, descended on the farm along with the RCMP
00:03:34.300while last-ditch efforts to save the birds wound its way or their way through the courts.
00:03:43.240Andrea Humphrey was there from start to finish, which makes her the perfect person to debunk
00:03:52.800the CBC's hit piece that aired on the Fifth Estate just a couple of days ago called The
00:03:59.860Ostrich Con. Here's my interview with Drea from just moments ago. Joining me now is my friend and
00:04:08.800colleague Drea Humphrey and she's going to break down the CBC's hit job on the ostrich farm called
00:04:15.700The Ostrich Con and then update us on her work to tell the other side of the story which in this
00:04:22.680case might be just the truth about what happened at Universal Ostrich Farm. Drea, how is it going?
00:04:30.260Now, I watched CBC's Fifth Estate called the Ostrich Con, and I don't know how that thing
00:04:38.580made it past editorial. Maybe they don't have editorial standards over at the CBC, but it seems
00:04:45.080to me that they trotted out every grievance monger in town who had ever had a poor interaction or who
00:04:51.420had ever heard of a poor interaction with the ostrich farmers to just but i don't know have
00:04:58.600a bit of a cbc festivus where they just air all their problems on tv it was like a therapy session
00:05:03.740for these people but there was no proof whatsoever of much of what they were saying tell me tell me0.54
00:05:09.840your take on the ostrich con and and you were there with the ostrich farmers right to watch it
00:05:16.900with them. Yeah, let's backpedal just a little bit. Yeah, please, all the way back. Most people
00:05:21.440know that Rebel News has been working over the past few months on our own documentary about what
00:05:27.180really matters, the government overreach and whether or not the science that the farmers were
00:05:32.400involved in had any merit that Canadians could benefit from. And so we've been working on that
00:05:37.860and Sid Fitzard and I are producing that and we were just getting to the editing phase and then
00:05:43.320Boom. Fifth Estate puts out this ostrich con documentary. And so we actually halted everything
00:05:50.960and thought, OK, well, Rebel's going to do what Rebel does and make sure we follow the facts where
00:05:56.320they lead and bring the people the other side of the story. So we pause that. We went back to
00:06:01.380Edgewood. And something to be noted is that the farmers welcomed us. They didn't know what was
00:06:07.320going to be said in the documentary. And they said, absolutely. We will watch it with you guys.
00:06:11.380You can ask us anything. So by farmers, it was Katie and Karen, not Dave. I'm supposed to see
00:06:17.940Dave on Thursday. So we didn't know what to expect. I've been focusing on what matters for
00:06:23.640Canadians as a whole. Sheila, you must know this when you cover anything that's a movement. There's
00:06:29.420always things like infighting. This person doesn't like this person. This person likes that person
00:06:34.460too much. We're not a gossip column here. So I've stayed away from all the stuff that doesn't
00:06:39.840doesn't matter. But with a name like that, Ostrich Con, I thought, did I miss something?
00:06:45.700Like, you know, I had my boots on the ground on like the CBC. But if you're going to come out
00:06:49.760and put that as the actual name of the documentary, surely they must have some sort of smoking gun.
00:06:56.500But that was me, for some reason, giving too much ethical credit to CBC. And I don't know why their
00:07:02.320lead correspondent, Rosie Barton, has already defamed me. So I don't know why I was giving the
00:07:07.060Fifth Estate, that grace. But I sat there with the farmers. Of course, I myself was like, oh,
00:07:12.760no, that part's not true. That's not true. And then, of course, anything that I wasn't sure
00:07:17.180we did ask and interview on camera to get their response. And they were very quick
00:07:23.320with the reasonable responses on anything that did look strange. But you're right. At the end
00:07:27.560of the day, they had a disgruntled supporter out of how many supporters? I don't know. Like,
00:07:33.180When you look at the ones that put weeks of time or more into it, I want to say like 60 to 80.
00:07:39.800And that's not just people passing through.
00:07:41.900So one disgruntled supporter who gave no evidence of anything, just made claims.
00:07:47.720And the CBC's Fifth Estate didn't prove those claims.
00:07:51.120And then they had some, you know, rival locals who seem to be having a lot of fun that I've already been aware of anyways,
00:08:00.480that really don't like the farmers and they really in particular don't like the attention
00:08:06.500that this whole story has brought to that small middle of nowhere town yeah let's talk a little
00:08:13.120bit about the like some of the claims in the ostrich con and again I reiterate I think the
00:08:19.780only con here is the hit job the CBC did on the ostrich farm without proof like a zero proof
00:08:26.900whatsoever but they have claims of financial malfeasance from before the ostrich crisis0.73
00:08:35.400let's call it with the cfia wanting to and ultimately executing the birds for exposure
00:08:41.580and then recovery from the avian flu uh apparently we don't even know because they didn't test the
00:08:47.800birds um and you know in the documentary they also claim like there was no truth to the science
00:08:56.880that potentially these birds would be used in medical discoveries or, or medical advancements
00:09:02.980with regard to, you know, COVID or hair loss or, or weight loss or whatever. But I watched that.
00:09:11.040And I was like, when they talked about potential financial malfeasance, I was like, okay, but who
00:09:16.880cares? That doesn't mean that even if you are a bad guy, that doesn't mean the state gets to come
00:09:24.000and kill your birds without proof and then when they talked you know about whether or not there
00:09:29.440was any sort of uh scientific relevance to what these birds had to offer i again i was like and
00:09:37.260who cares like even if the birds are of no medical value the state just doesn't get to come in and
00:09:46.140kill your animals without proof like they were they were making it a moral judgment when for
00:09:52.180the rest of us, it was about science and civil rights. Well, and the state doesn't get to decide
00:09:58.860what the science is. And so we're going to tackle this and rebuttal this in two ways. One,
00:10:04.200I'm working on a documentary that will be, of course, tackling the whole thing as the bigger
00:10:09.460picture of whether or not the science had any merit. So stay tuned for that at cullingthecure.com.
00:10:15.140Two, I'm going to put out a report that is a little longer and more focused on the fifth estate
00:10:19.880here. But just one of the many examples of how they did the science dirty here is, for example,
00:10:26.060they interviewed Dr. Stephen Pellick at length and never even put him in there. I wonder why.
00:10:33.220He's the one still continuing to work on that science. He's the one who knows about the antibody.
00:10:38.640He is a UBC professor. He also has his own lab. So, of course, he didn't make a second into that
00:10:44.860documentary because they couldn't get him to say what they wanted him to say. They did interview
00:10:49.680doctor. I call him Dr. T, but I think it's Tsukamoto from Japan, who many who have followed
00:10:55.040the story have heard about the Japanese ostrich doctor. And all I can say, I'll prove this.
00:11:01.160But what I can say is they completely did that man dirty. There's a major language barrier there.
00:11:06.080They barely let him speak and they took him out of context. And we can prove that. So that's just
00:11:11.920some of the examples. It's kind of like the COVID-19 where they want to make it look like
00:11:16.160there's a conspiracy theory to anything that's natural immunity approach. It is not a conspiracy.
00:11:24.080Antibody therapeutic research of chickens is funded in Canada. So why would it be some sort
00:11:31.620of conspiracy that an ostrich egg, which is the largest bird egg, why would it be a conspiracy
00:11:38.360that perhaps their eggs have more value on a very basic level? But that type of science is
00:11:44.380being ignored in Canada and these farmers whether they were right or wrong believed they were onto
00:11:51.160something and they should not be penalized for that. The other thing that stood out and again
00:11:57.380I'm going to be speaking to Dave soon so stay tuned for our coverage on that is they showed
00:12:03.140on the screen these civil cases and of course I was like well what's all that about to a certain
00:12:08.780extent because I had looked into this previously myself and those were Dave's previous businesses
00:12:14.300that sort of consolidated, he got into debt in different ways is what I understand.
00:12:18.980But the craziest part about it is it predates universal ostrich farms. And the fifth estate
00:12:24.600just flat out said, this is the farm and implied that it was all of them. I mean, there's so much
00:12:29.220we can go on to, including the fact that according to the farmers, the fifth estate appeared to have
00:12:35.060no intention of coming and speaking to Katie and Karen at all. They in fact heard that they were
00:12:40.000coming to interview their rivals the local rivals that don't like them and then they called according
00:12:46.680to them called the fifth estate and said we heard you're in town please come for dinner we'd like to
00:12:52.000give our side of the story for which they claim they were never asked about when it came to
00:12:56.820those allegations of fraud i noticed in the documentary they made allegations about the
00:13:04.360care and welfare of the birds as well um but none of the complaints against the farm as far as the
00:13:12.820cfia is concerned were with regard to the welfare of the birds like nobody called the humane society
00:13:19.020there none of that is there's no proof to any of that just somebody didn't like the appearance of
00:13:25.880the farm i suppose but the farms don't always look the way they do in children's books yeah
00:13:32.720Yeah, well, I mean, when they interviewed Deborah Peon, it's her name, a local who is very outspoken on Facebook.
00:13:42.660It's no secret that she doesn't like the family.
00:13:45.800In fact, she's connected to a self-proclaimed hate group.
00:13:48.960At one point, they put up a thing saying, yes, we are a hate group against the farm for these reasons, some of which I mentioned earlier, like, hey, they're bringing so many police here.
00:13:58.920but you see this moment because if anybody's been following the story which we did cover of course
00:14:06.720there were two ostriches in the midst of all this that were shot it appears that you know we don't
00:14:13.500know to this date and the RCMP have not said anything they said they would investigate we
00:14:19.180don't know what happened to those two birds and so that was one of the questions that this date
00:14:23.320asked Dave who's co-owner of Universal Ostrich Farm and he gave his belief that it was a drone
00:14:28.540now in my coverage of this i said you know it seems a little hard to believe that it's a drone
00:14:34.020but i'm no drone expert but regardless dave's not an expert in this either that's what dave believes
00:14:39.880and and uh they really tried to make dave look foolish for saying this but then they go over
00:14:45.360to deborah peon who's like well the consensus is like the consensus among of whom yeah is that
00:14:54.380the farmers killed these two birds to try to cover up another avian flu outbreak and there's no
00:15:02.260pushback from the fifth estate after they just pushed back on dave's drone theory right and i'm
00:15:07.120like what the heck not only that it makes zero sense since the farm was always calling for
00:15:12.920testing throughout their whole fight if they're killing their own birds to fight hide an avian
00:15:18.340flu outbreak why would they be inviting the cfia or offering anybody to come test their birds
00:15:24.340to prove they're healthy made no sense yeah I mean it was uh they treated one side as though
00:15:31.580they were like well fringe radicals with extremist ideas and the other local curmudgeons as though
00:15:39.480everything they said was complete gospel and there was zero effort to fact check anything like
00:15:46.440if you handed me that documentary Drea I would say you've got a lot of phone calls to make before
00:15:52.620we publish anything like this exactly it was it was again with the title i thought maybe they had
00:15:59.500something and something people need to know is again we are focused on what matters for canadians
00:16:04.400as a whole but we live off of donations that's the only way rebel news survives so when we and
00:16:11.400we do this many times when we start reporting on flights there are times where we start saying hey
00:16:18.100you should donate to these guys they're going through this and we let you know where their
00:16:21.540GoFundMe is. And that is to a cost of Rebel News. So there was a point in time where I did hear
00:16:27.180these whispers that the CBC has apparently published as though they mean something more
00:16:32.480than they are. And I took the time to investigate those. And I had asked the farmers, hey, listen,
00:16:38.720can I see how much you guys have spent at the donations? And they actually sent me proof at
00:16:43.740that time. Maybe this was five months in or something. I can't remember the exact month.
00:16:47.700it was about $75,000 that they had paid. They paid way more. And so the CBC said,
00:16:53.080oh, they've gotten about $330,000. You know, where's that money go? And they go to the
00:16:58.000disgruntled volunteer who says, oh, like, I don't know, she has no proof of where it's going. But
00:17:04.920I'm saying months ago, I saw that they had spent $75,000 on one type of bill. And, you know, that
00:17:11.300was enough for me to go, okay, well, yeah, they need help. And then I've also done reports on
00:17:16.340how they are in debt and that's part of the problem like many farmers are in debt and then
00:17:21.040you now you have the worry of the cfia coming not because of any proof they can come by suspicion
00:17:26.580come to your property test two dead birds that have been sitting in the ground for three days
00:17:31.400catching god knows what with a pcr test and that's it your farm is over right and let's not forget
00:17:38.480the state was awarded costs against them yeah right like they come kill your birds and then
00:17:46.160they say, okay, here's the bill for us killing the birds that you didn't want us to kill.
00:17:50.940And the cleanup, the mess is still there. This biohazardated mess that we're so scared of a
00:17:57.080wild bird falling on those hay bills and coming out. It's just sitting there. They didn't even
00:18:01.100clean it up. Yeah. The danger of the ostriches, in the meantime, wild turkeys are just walking
00:18:11.520all over the place like it's nothing, but they're really concerned that these birds that will never
00:18:16.140they will live their entire lives on the farm not going anywhere are going to be some sort of
00:18:21.440disease vector the whole thing didn't make sense from the very beginning and again I reiterate I
00:18:25.960don't care about the morality of the people involved I mean yes it is nice to know about
00:18:30.540those things but like you I try to stay out of the weeds for me this was a property rights issue
00:18:35.320this was an evidence rights issue if they are going to do something to you shouldn't they be
00:18:40.900able to have to prove the reason they're going to do the thing to you and to your property for me
00:18:47.240that's what I'm looking at all of this and then you know the CBC comes in with all their moral
00:18:51.900issues which are just I guess a way to not appoint the blame to the farmers but sort of like well
00:19:02.600these they could be bad people so we really shouldn't care about what happens we should
00:19:06.920kill the bird and they're in debt so yeah but but you know I think it really shows something
00:19:15.100that the CBC with all the tax dollars they get who's been working on their film close to at
00:19:21.140least as long as us with ours um and I know that because we would interview people and then we'd
00:19:27.620find out from the people we interviewed that they interviewed them too so I know that we've been
00:19:31.200going back and forth I didn't know what they were coming up with like the ostrich con but my point
00:19:35.820is that's the best they got they they did a whole piece instead of on what matters to canadians as a
00:19:42.520whole against this family that's gone through so much and that's the best they could come up with
00:19:48.640right is that people don't like them in the neighborhood they're in so much debt and the
00:19:54.260supporter thinks that's what they did it all for was to try to pay their debt off yeah and you know
00:19:59.680it's pretty rich coming from the cbc 1.4 billion dollars a year i bet they spent 300 000 of taxpayer
00:20:05.220money on that hit job on the ostrich farm well they put seven million dollars and at the end
00:20:11.780of their documentary it's like they try to shift the blame like okay well that's all the farmers
00:20:16.900fault that seven million dollars in tax dollars was wasted on this whole operation not to mention
00:20:23.780how hundreds of officers being deployed there yeah when british columbia's crime has never been worse
00:20:29.380Right, right. People dying of opioids in the street in the interior of British Columbia, but they had to deploy, you know, hundreds of police over the course of weeks to this ostrich farm.
00:20:42.900And I'm sure those cops, well, honestly, it was a pretty cool gig if you could get it, like sitting in a lawn chair looking at the mountains all day.
00:20:51.220Well, I know there were some, you know, off record, they wouldn't go on record, but I know there are some officers who refuse to take part in that, too.
00:21:00.700Yeah, I think that's why we saw a lot of young faces on the night of the call.
00:21:05.700All of a sudden, the front line switched and it was a lot of young, stone cold officers who I don't know what they thought they were coming to fight.
00:21:14.120And it seemed like some of them even got pulled away from the front line because they were cracking.
00:21:18.180And maybe when they realize like, this is just farmers and people who love animals and like, this isn't what I signed up for.
00:21:25.920Yeah. Yeah. Or people like me who don't even like ostriches.
00:21:29.220And I'm going to get five emails because I just said that they're scary.
00:21:33.300Okay. But I believe in property rights and I believe in farming rights.
00:21:37.140And I believe that before the state does something evil to you, they should at least be able to prove why they feel they need to do it.
00:21:44.420Now, you are telling the other side of the story on this.
00:21:48.180Tell people what they can expect from your documentary and how they can get involved because you're still incurring costs.
00:21:56.640You know, we've got lawyers involved in our documentary, traveled like you flew to the United States to work on your documentary.
00:22:04.360So and we're not like the CBC. We don't have one point four billion dollars a year to debunk the CBC.
00:22:11.240So let people know what they can expect and how they can get involved.
00:22:14.640Yeah, and they made our job harder because now we had to get back into the film. Yes, that's right. We went from, you know, the prairies to the towers of New York to Ottawa, of course. And unlike the CPC, we won't be taking people out of context to bring you this.
00:22:31.900We do speak with Dr. Angela Rasmussen, which is the scientist they focused on mostly.
00:22:39.600And we also don't ignore the scientists that do believe there's something to the value of the science that the farmers are passionate about.
00:22:48.280So I think, like you said earlier, you're just going to get the side of the story as it pertains to overreach.
00:24:11.540But I also go poking around on some of the other platforms to see what you guys are saying.
00:24:15.480And I thought, since we're talking about the ostrich con from the CBC and Drea's work to tell the other side of the story, which I reiterate is the truth about the ostrich farm with her documentary Culling the Cure, I thought, what are you guys saying about the trailer?
00:24:34.020So I went over to YouTube and I just opened the comment section and I want to see what you guys have to say about Drea's upcoming documentary.
00:24:45.480So, Tick Ahee says, I don't trust the government or any of its agencies.
00:24:52.520Yeah, welcome to post-COVID Canada, right?
00:24:56.68080Wolf85 says, Canadian government can't be trusted.