00:00:55.640But that hasn't stopped the federal government from just putting the pedal to the metal when it comes to accelerating the gun grab and doing their best to bribe police agencies to participate in the collection of these firearms as more and more provinces are saying, yeah, you know what?
00:01:15.940Crime is out of control in Mark Carney's Canada. Opioids are a crisis, killing our young people. Our police have better things to do.
00:01:25.640federal government they're willing to waste potentially according to some studies six
00:01:30.600billion dollars on this mess and today we've got tracy wilson from the canadian
00:01:37.240Coalition for Firearms Rights to tell us all about it. Take a listen.
00:01:59.220Joining me now is my friend Tracy Wilson of the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights.
00:02:04.140And as soon as I saw this investigation from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, my next message was to Tracy saying, Tracy, you got to come on the show. We got to discuss this because, of course, of course we know this.
00:02:18.260And the Canadian Taxpayers Federation filed an access to information request to find out if Public Safety Canada had any analysis or paperwork, inquiry, study, proving that the largest gun grab in Canadian history would have any effect on public safety.
00:02:41.640and it's not like they got back you know just a smattering of things they didn't even get back
00:02:49.100an email as in they didn't even bother to ask the question because a either for the government
00:02:57.060proof is not required for a multi-billion dollar program or b they didn't ask because they knew
00:03:04.400what the answer would be so they just didn't bother yeah it's both of those things and i
00:03:10.740got to give a shout out to our friends at the Canadian Taxpayer Federation. They do such a great
00:03:15.180job. But at the same time, this is a Captain Obvious moment where we actually didn't require
00:03:21.940that ATIP because the minister himself told us in that leaked audio that I put out there for
00:03:28.320everybody to hear, when liberals think nobody's listening, they tell the truth, right? And the
00:03:34.260minister's head, they know, they know it's not going to impact public safety and that it was
00:03:39.780strictly for votes in Quebec. So, you know, I wasn't surprised to see this ATIP result come
00:03:46.800back. I'm still glad they filed it because it kind of stacks up with the evidence that the
00:03:52.400minister himself has provided. And at the same time, it's sort of a smack in the face to people
00:03:59.080who have voted liberal over the last 11 years, who promised you evidence-based policy. It's pretty
00:04:05.660blatantly clear that not only is this politically driven but they know full well there is zero
00:04:12.320evidence that this is going to have a positive impact on public safety and the most tragic part
00:04:18.300of that is not only has it not saved lives it's cost lives crime is out of control violent crime
00:04:27.040is happening people are dying and the focus instead is on chasing around people like you and
00:04:32.500to see if they can confiscate my competition rifle it's bananas i filled in for ezra on his
00:04:40.480show yesterday and of course i you know when i'm hosting for ezra i get to do whatever i want as
00:04:46.400far as the mono goes so i i made the show about this and i was poking around for some evidence
00:04:52.540to what we know anecdotally right about the rise in crime and we all know uh uh we all know gary
00:05:01.660mauser uh who is such a smart guy on firearms policy he's a professor at simon fraser and he
00:05:09.380had actually pulled the statistics on this so while they're spending his estimates six billion
00:05:18.700dollars by the time they're all done with this because again they don't know where the guns are
00:05:24.260who has them because many of these guns have moved from just unregistered to prohib so they're just
00:05:29.820throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks. But he points out that while the liberals
00:05:37.120are hell bent on spending $6 billion on a policy, we now know the liberals didn't even bother to
00:05:44.320test to see if it would work or study to see if it would work. Firearms crimes have increased 10%
00:05:51.920between 2020 to 2022 the rate of firearm related violent crime was 36.3 or 36.7 incidents per
00:06:00.340hundred thousand and that was an increase by nine from nine percent in 2021 so the year over year
00:06:07.580increased nearly 10 percent and that's the highest recorded rate of increase since they started
00:06:15.760collecting the data in 2009. And then they also know this is the one thing the government might
00:06:23.460actually know, but they don't want us to know. They know that lawfully held firearms aren't the
00:06:29.020problem. And this is according to StatsCan. The firearms used in homicides are rarely legal
00:06:33.820firearms used by their legal owners. However, crimes committed by organized crime have increased
00:06:39.380170% since 2016. And yet $6 billion is being shot out of a fire hose at people who aren't
00:06:51.840committing the crimes while the bad guys are running amok and getting reduced sentences.
00:06:56.600Yeah. Well, and this is the problem of things like Bill C-75 and Bill C-5 that softened the
00:07:03.980sentencing for some very serious violent crimes, including firearm related violence. And at the
00:07:10.080same time, they're banning guns from law-abiding citizens like you and I who've never done anything
00:07:15.300wrong. To suggest that this policy would have any positive impact, especially when you're doing all
00:07:22.600these terrible things on the softening of sentences, is ridiculous. And my friend Christine0.76
00:07:28.200Jenneru. She's the self-rep in the court challenge against the gun grab. And she's just a total
00:07:35.040hero to the community, smart as a whip. And she said in court to the judge that the purpose of
00:07:43.140gun control should be to prevent the misuse of firearms, not the legitimate use of firearms.
00:07:48.880And I think that's really important. I, you know, we're regular people, Sheila, you and I,
00:07:54.600I also want to save for community. I want to save for country. I want less bad guys to have guns. This isn't the way to do it. Every single indicator proves that. And yet they cling to this. And that's how we know that the minister told the truth. And it is purely a political policy based on getting votes out of Quebec, which is ridiculous.
00:08:17.360Right. And, you know, the media is supportive of this. They're completely unskeptical of the government's policy attacking the law abiding and letting the bad guys just skate with lenient sentences or frequently no sentences at all if it jeopardizes their immigration status.
00:08:38.660And they avoid experts in the field. I remember when Caliber magazine, representing stakeholders, was blocked from attending a press conference on the gun grab because the press conference was held on Parliament Hill, which means the parliamentary press gallery controls access and they wouldn't give them access.
00:09:03.760So, you know, even if conservatives are holding a press conference and they want the independent journalists there, the media gangs up and keeps them out.
00:09:12.520And then the media brings on people who are pro-gun grab to ask them to get in the heads of people like you and I.
00:09:21.800And they just perpetrate these myths when they're perfectly fine experts like you saying, hi, right here.
00:09:29.820Yeah, government funded TVO actually just did that.
00:09:32.680They had a segment called, where are all the undeclared firearms?
00:09:37.240Because of course, out of the 2 million affected firearms, there's only been 67,000 some odd
00:09:47.660So they're like, well, wait a minute, where's all the rest of them?
00:09:50.840So who do they have on to discuss that with?
00:09:53.180Mark Campbell, a police chief association guy, and Wendy Suki, an anti-gun lobbyist.
00:09:58.480so they're trying to get into Wendy's head to find out why people aren't complying well she
00:10:04.460doesn't represent those people the funniest or well it's not even funny the most tragic part
00:10:10.320of that entire interview was listening to Mark Campbell talk about his fears because they were
00:10:16.060asking him well what happens if people don't comply with this and the amnesty comes and goes
00:10:20.880and now they're in illegal possession and prohibited firearms then what happens when it
00:10:25.340comes to enforcement and Campbell said that this is the problem he said in Ontario alone there's
00:10:31.200250,000 new criminal cases every year introduced into the justice system these are legitimate
00:10:38.680criminal cases of a variety of different offenses to criminalize hundreds of thousands of Ontario
00:10:47.980gun owners and this is just one province right he says will absolutely collapse the entire justice
00:10:53.920system and because these will be firearm related uh cases if a gun owner was to be charged and i'm
00:11:01.080using air quotes um the it would take precedent and priority over other perhaps violent but not
00:11:09.900involving criminal case or firearm cases so he is worried at the fact that this will absolutely
00:11:17.260collapse the entire justice system of course law enforcement already stretched thin will be
00:11:23.440you know stretched even thinner and we will see actual violent criminals be released because the
00:11:30.100courts will be full up of gun owners trying to defend themselves against these tyrants so
00:11:34.980you know like is this really what we is this how we get to be a safer country well and what end
00:11:43.100you know for sure and you know i have to laud you on your good work because while it seems like the
00:11:51.380politicians are unbudging these police chiefs and police organizations all across the country
00:11:57.100you approach them yes i did and you ask them are you going to enforce the the gun grab or do you
00:12:04.440have better things to do with your time and your resources and you have prompted police agencies
00:12:09.520from all across the country to come out and say like look we're going to do something else we've
00:12:14.980got better things to do um and i think that's commendable because you know the the liberals
00:12:21.480are hell-bent on wasting six billion dollars and no one will be the safer um and the police
00:12:26.840organizations know that and it's quite something to see them make these public statements after
00:12:31.900you're approaching them i never thought they would actually be so public about it i thought maybe i
00:12:37.560might get a response to an email you know and i think once uh one or two of them started it
00:12:44.900sort of caught on and of course now we're down to a situation where across a country with i think
00:12:50.540180 or hundreds literally hundreds of municipalities and you've got what six that have
00:12:57.700signed a deal the overwhelming majority of this country has completely rejected the gun ban
00:13:02.900and law enforcement is included in that so um i don't think there has been any other policy in
00:13:10.960the history of this country that has seen such large opposition from high-ranking law enforcement
00:13:18.280officials as this one. And I think if Carney wants to salvage any type of reputation for the liberals
00:13:26.140on public safety, the best thing he could do is cancel this. And if he refuses to do that,
00:13:32.140that's okay. We're taking it all the way to the Supreme Court. And maybe that's what he's counting
00:13:36.320on he doesn't want to have to answer to natalie in his cabinet about uh why he's canceled this
00:13:42.040gun grab so a winning court would of course alleviate alleviate him of having to take
00:13:48.000responsibility for that but still let him off the hook right for this so i i don't know it's a bit
00:13:54.780of a mess but um for those law enforcement agencies that have struck a deal so be it i'm
00:14:00.800going to put hundreds if not thousands of people on their front lawn so every time uh somebody
00:14:06.520strikes a deal with the liberals to do this gun grab we will oppose it with a massive rally in
00:14:12.180their front yard and of course it makes headlines and news and the whole town and city talks about
00:14:17.160it and the the good people of these jurisdictions deserve to know that their police chiefs who are
00:14:24.420making these bad decisions and like i said there's like six um are putting their public safety at
00:14:30.620risk. Now, last time I talked to you, we were awaiting the decision for the Supreme Court to
00:14:39.220hear your case. Give us an update on that and also let people know how they can support these
00:14:44.740efforts because you guys are up against the government, which has all of our money to waste
00:14:50.400fighting gun owners, and you are grassroots funded by people and gun clubs who just believe in
00:14:57.940freedom. Yeah, that's right. So the Supreme Court hears very few cases. It's not like the, you know,
00:15:04.940we've already been to the federal court and the appeals court and they're basically you've, you
00:15:09.440know, you file your paper, you pay your lawyers and you go. At the Supreme Court, they decide what
00:15:14.420they hear. And of course they hear very few, about 6% overall of all cases. In fact, I think there
00:15:21.240was like 26 different cases, you know, unrelated to our case on the docket for the Supreme Court
00:15:27.180They rejected them all except ours. And there seems to be this thing that's happening lately
00:15:32.540with the Supreme Court where they are ruling against the government in a number of different
00:15:36.920cases. So, you know, a lot of people worry that the Supreme Court justices, what if they're
00:15:44.560captured or what if they're compromised in some way? And I'm like, look, they could have very
00:15:50.260easily have left the decision out of the lower courts, which are still high courts, in place.
00:15:57.400And that would have been their decision, right? They could have said, no, we simply agree with
00:16:02.440the decision out of the appeals court or the federal court. We've lost in both places and
00:16:07.380leave it at that. And it would be a done deal. But there's something in there that they like
00:16:10.940and they want to hear it out. So we're going to go all the way. We promised gun owners we'd do
00:16:16.860everything that we could. We've spent millions of dollars this far and we didn't only come this far
00:16:23.100to only come this far. So we're going to, we're going to fight it all the way and we're not going
00:16:28.920to cheap out and, you know, file something, fundraise off of it, and then just show up on
00:16:34.020the last day to, you know, plead an argument. Like we are going to litigate this thing thoroughly,
00:16:39.800completely, and hire the very best, most competent people in the country. Like we've assembled a
00:16:45.220huge team it's very expensive but this if we're gonna do this we're gonna do it right we're gonna
00:16:50.540do it all the way so yeah there's nothing more expensive than a cheap lawyer as Ezra always
00:16:58.040tells me um and you know even if the supreme court is ideologically captured what else are
00:17:04.320we supposed to do here all we can do is fight yeah well and these are the tools that are available
00:17:11.040to us right you're right the government has all the power they've got all the money they've got
00:17:15.060everything so for an average joe like you or i to go to the supreme court to fight our government
00:17:20.860we could never do it i mean you know a five thousand dollar retainer would probably collapse
00:17:26.400me personally right now so the idea of having people band together under a the banner of a
00:17:32.940group like ours where we we can fight together that makes us very strong because if a lot of
00:17:39.140people do a little bit then nobody has to do a lot so people have been supporting us we just
00:17:45.160finished the raining guns contest it was like so successful beyond anything I could have imagined
00:17:51.060we gave away 100 guns which is crazy um and yeah we're just going to keep fundraising
00:17:57.380keep working and our motto like I have it on the the wall in my office is do everything all the way
00:18:04.840all the time that's it just keep going so that's what we're gonna do and do well i know you will
00:18:11.740now yeah you ccfr holds events and before i get to the upcoming one where you'll find me
00:18:20.320i just want to tell you how much fun david menzies had at the toronto sportsman show
00:18:26.160he was like she was like she was that was the best assignment ever thank you for sending me
00:18:32.940well wait he called me on my cell before he came in and he's like sheila tells me you've got this
00:18:40.160job for me uh are you serious i'm going to be shooting guns with pretty girls i'm like oh yeah
00:18:45.300i mean they're likely to beat you but you're gonna have a good time just the same and yeah
00:18:50.640they whipped him but yeah he he enjoyed that and then of course he actually actually came
00:18:55.740to the waterloo region rally yes and he asked me the first question he asked me in the interview
00:19:00.920was where was the gunny girls uh funny enough there were a couple there so uh yeah david's
00:19:06.700always happy to see them but yeah he's adorable yeah we've got to get him a calendar this year
00:19:11.500absolutely yeah yeah oh yeah he's getting a calendar now it's not too late to get tickets
00:19:20.140to the ccfr agm in toronto but it is fast approaching tell us about it yeah ticket sales
00:19:27.860are over on monday um we have the ccfr agm coming up last year we were planning a big one and we
00:19:35.780ended up canceling it because it came it was just in the wake of the election and we just felt like
00:19:41.500you know to be perfectly honest nobody felt like celebrating anything and we just wanted to focus
00:19:47.960on work but it is really important to get together with your people and connect with people so we are
00:19:53.940hosting our AGM on May 23rd in Mississauga, which is Toronto. It's about a two-minute drive from the
00:20:02.340airport at the Sandman Signature Hotel. All the details can be found at ccfragm.ca, but we've got
00:20:10.040a full schedule. We'll have our business meeting in the morning. That's the financials, the legal
00:20:14.840update, department updates, all the boring stuff. And then after lunch, we're going to do an Ask Me
00:20:19.880anything with rod and i people love that they like to ask us all kinds of questions we've got
00:20:25.760a fireside chat with randy arsenow you're going to really like him he's that tiktok cop yeah
00:20:31.080awesome guy he's terrific we've got the saskatchewan firearm commissioner uh guys coming
00:20:37.520so that's bob freeberg who just retired and blaine bevins who took his place really brilliant guys
00:20:45.040and Saskatchewan's kind of kicking butt leading the fight on protecting gun owners. So we're
00:20:51.140going to hear all about their crafty little plans that they've made. And then we've got
00:20:57.180Northern Perspective is coming to Ryan and Tanya, you know, those guys, they're going to come and
00:21:02.060Ryan gave a really good message of hope at the Waterloo region rally. And I think that's kind
00:21:07.800of important. Gun owners have been beat up the last 10 years for sure. And of course, he'll lead
00:21:12.480us into grace and then the big show is you sheila you're our keynote speaker i am after dinner so
00:21:19.940we're really looking forward to that we thought we've also got uh from from your province alberta
00:21:25.660cfo terry bryant's coming nice it's like an all-star cast so lots to see the tickets are
00:21:32.660not expensive the dinner is going to be incredible we've got the laser range is going to be set up
00:21:37.420there so we can have a duel it's a lot of fun okay we'll be selling ccfr swag dirty leather is going
00:21:43.820to be there making custom ccfr belts on the spot love it get yourself a big old alberta belt buckle
00:21:50.520on there yes and yeah we're just gonna have fun we're gonna have door prizes i've got some cool
00:21:56.640things to give away and keepsakes and all kinds of stuff going on so yeah ccfr agm.ca yes and
00:22:05.000many members of the rebel team will be there for the dinner as well. So if you need another reason
00:22:10.020to buy a ticket, we are, we are, we are. When they heard I was speaking, they're like, why didn't you
00:22:15.780tell us we're, we're all going to be there. Well, if you listen to me talk every day, I didn't think
00:22:21.240you'd want to come, but anyway, yeah, I, I'm looking so forward to it. It's going to be such
00:22:26.420a blast. Yeah, it is going to be fun. And I, you know, some people are asking me, why are you
00:22:32.240bringing the laser range because we've been having that at the gun shows that's what menzie shot
00:22:36.020and i'm like why not you know i think it's fun i mean if you're not really feeling like you know
00:22:41.840having a sociable cocktail or whatever you can go have a duel with somebody why not yeah a lot of
00:22:47.180fun yeah for sure now tracy tell people how they can get involved in the ccfr um in your efforts to
00:22:54.720fight back against the government um there are multiple different ways um because you do such
00:23:00.100strong advocacy work for us. And please don't forget to mention the store because you guys
00:23:05.700have a great store as well. Yeah, the swag shop is awesome. And we've got some new stuff coming
00:23:11.480out in there as well for our friends in Quebec. So that's a little hint. That'll be released
00:23:16.700at the AGM as well. But we got all kinds of good stuff. Go to ccfr.ca and go to the merch shop.
00:23:23.880But while you're there, check out a membership. There is strength in numbers. And when I can walk
00:23:28.920into the halls of parliament and tell them i represent x number of people of course the larger
00:23:34.540that x is the better right so we are canada's largest stakeholder on this file but we we need
00:23:42.380more we always need more help and of course you can donate on there but download the ccfr app
00:23:47.600it's free to download it can host your membership on there gives you direct access to everything
00:23:53.280And of course, if the government ever cuts off our means of communication or our social media, it's a direct link between you and I. So very important.
00:24:03.220You know, that's a very smart thing to do is to be able to connect directly with your people without going through a platform that would be manipulated or blackmailed by the government. Facebook meta. I'm talking about you.
00:24:15.840yes exactly so that's why we have that and it's totally free to download and if you're a member
00:24:23.100it hosts your membership card oh nice there's all there's all kinds of discounts from retailers
00:24:27.840there so I bought I bought my membership for 40 bucks then I bought a gun at one of the retailers
00:24:34.560I got 40 bucks off my gun so my membership was free and now if I use those discounts I'm actually
00:24:42.320making money. So yeah. Nice. Making money and fighting for freedom. My two favorite things to
00:24:47.960do. Tracy, thanks so much for coming on the show. We'll have you back on very soon,
00:24:53.840but I will see you on the 23rd. I'll see you there. Thanks a lot, Sheila. Thanks.
00:25:12.320well as always the last portion of the show goes to you our viewers at home because without you
00:25:19.680there is no rebel news as you know we'll never take a penny from the government to do the work
00:25:23.660that we do to hold the government to account you would view everything we do as a politically
00:25:30.400contaminated story at least or perhaps a grant application at best so we rely on you at home
00:25:40.260If you want to talk to me directly about my interview today with my friend Tracy Wilson from the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights, my email is sheila at rebelnews.com.
00:25:51.100Put gun show letters in the subject line.
00:25:52.920It'll land directly in my email inbox.
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00:26:26.180So I know you've already paid eight bucks a month to be here, but that's a great free way to help Rebel News spread the good word of freedom, small government, personal responsibility.
00:26:38.080So today's viewer comments actually don't come from my work, but they come from Ezra's report from the site of a synagogue in the Toronto area that was shot at by a replica firearm.
00:26:56.180And again, liberals are apparently doing nothing about this sort of stuff. It seems like every single day there's another story of an act of anti-Semitism happening in Toronto, girl schools being shot at multiple times with real guns, menorahs being vandalized, fights breaking out on the lawns of synagogues, Islamists marching through the streets.
00:27:20.340And again, apparently, we are the biggest public safety risk us law abiding firearms owners who subject ourselves to daily background checks at the hands of the state. So let's get into the comments. Jeff Allen, 3140 writes, I lived there many years ago, it was one of the most peaceful areas in the city back then sad to see what has happened there now.
00:27:39.820So, yeah, that's what unfettered mass migration, coupled with progressive city council, overly permissive of this nonsense, provincial government, and then federal government immigration policies.
00:27:55.520We'll get you. It's all just converging on Toronto.
00:27:58.720so david kettlewell 7937 says as to mark carney as far as i know canadian values do not include
00:28:07.380honor killing suicide bombings and ramming cars into crowds yes a car was actually rammed into a
00:28:15.240pro-iranian freedom event just over the weekend but this stuff is so frequent it's almost out of
00:28:23.520the news cycle now. Isn't that wild? Dig in deep. Amazing how much can change in 10 years. I don't
00:28:30.980recognize my home anymore. Try to get a coffee. Try to get your oil changed. You'll see how much
00:28:38.180this country has changed. Ren Hamilton, G1C says, who gave him the right to bring in a new world
00:28:47.760order that the globalists have invented? Well, I guess the voters in Eastern and Central Canada
00:28:52.720i did i guess can you sense my frustration as an albertan you know
00:29:01.520last one michelle peltier m7n says unarmed citizens are the most vulnerable population0.95
00:29:11.840of corrupt politicians and carny is as dirty as trudeau canadians have my heart my grandparents
00:29:19.200migrated to the US and I don't want euthanized elderly, mentally ill and poor people to happen0.99
00:29:24.580with radical Islamists taking over. It's true. Well, everybody, that's the show for today. Thank0.76
00:29:33.880you so much for tuning in. What a dark note to end on. Sorry. Thank you so much for tuning in.
00:29:39.000I'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week. Don't forget to get
00:29:43.220your tickets to the CCFR AGM where you'll see me as the keynote speaker. I hope to see you there.
00:29:50.020And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.