Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ CCFR's Tracey Wilson on the baseless Liberal gun confiscation plan

00:00:00.000 the government's potentially six billion dollar gun grab has absolutely no evidence that it will

00:00:22.300 work and that's just not me speculating that's the government telling us i'm sheila gun reid

00:00:27.780 and you're watching The Gun Show.

00:00:35.320 A new access information investigation

00:00:37.600 from our friends at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation

00:00:39.940 shows, well, what all of us have known all along,

00:00:43.320 that the federal government's gun grab will not work.

00:00:49.500 And even they know it

00:00:50.860 because they have not done a single study

00:00:53.420 proving as such.

00:00:55.640 But that hasn't stopped the federal government from just putting the pedal to the metal when it comes to accelerating the gun grab and doing their best to bribe police agencies to participate in the collection of these firearms as more and more provinces are saying, yeah, you know what?

00:01:15.940 Crime is out of control in Mark Carney's Canada. Opioids are a crisis, killing our young people. Our police have better things to do.

00:01:25.640 federal government they're willing to waste potentially according to some studies six

00:01:30.600 billion dollars on this mess and today we've got tracy wilson from the canadian

00:01:37.240 Coalition for Firearms Rights to tell us all about it. Take a listen.

00:01:59.220 Joining me now is my friend Tracy Wilson of the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights.

00:02:04.140 And as soon as I saw this investigation from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, my next message was to Tracy saying, Tracy, you got to come on the show. We got to discuss this because, of course, of course we know this.

00:02:18.260 And the Canadian Taxpayers Federation filed an access to information request to find out if Public Safety Canada had any analysis or paperwork, inquiry, study, proving that the largest gun grab in Canadian history would have any effect on public safety.

00:02:41.640 and it's not like they got back you know just a smattering of things they didn't even get back

00:02:49.100 an email as in they didn't even bother to ask the question because a either for the government

00:02:57.060 proof is not required for a multi-billion dollar program or b they didn't ask because they knew

00:03:04.400 what the answer would be so they just didn't bother yeah it's both of those things and i

00:03:10.740 got to give a shout out to our friends at the Canadian Taxpayer Federation. They do such a great

00:03:15.180 job. But at the same time, this is a Captain Obvious moment where we actually didn't require

00:03:21.940 that ATIP because the minister himself told us in that leaked audio that I put out there for

00:03:28.320 everybody to hear, when liberals think nobody's listening, they tell the truth, right? And the

00:03:34.260 minister's head, they know, they know it's not going to impact public safety and that it was

00:03:39.780 strictly for votes in Quebec. So, you know, I wasn't surprised to see this ATIP result come

00:03:46.800 back. I'm still glad they filed it because it kind of stacks up with the evidence that the

00:03:52.400 minister himself has provided. And at the same time, it's sort of a smack in the face to people

00:03:59.080 who have voted liberal over the last 11 years, who promised you evidence-based policy. It's pretty

00:04:05.660 blatantly clear that not only is this politically driven but they know full well there is zero

00:04:12.320 evidence that this is going to have a positive impact on public safety and the most tragic part

00:04:18.300 of that is not only has it not saved lives it's cost lives crime is out of control violent crime

00:04:27.040 is happening people are dying and the focus instead is on chasing around people like you and

00:04:32.500 to see if they can confiscate my competition rifle it's bananas i filled in for ezra on his

00:04:40.480 show yesterday and of course i you know when i'm hosting for ezra i get to do whatever i want as

00:04:46.400 far as the mono goes so i i made the show about this and i was poking around for some evidence

00:04:52.540 to what we know anecdotally right about the rise in crime and we all know uh uh we all know gary

00:05:01.660 mauser uh who is such a smart guy on firearms policy he's a professor at simon fraser and he

00:05:09.380 had actually pulled the statistics on this so while they're spending his estimates six billion

00:05:18.700 dollars by the time they're all done with this because again they don't know where the guns are

00:05:24.260 who has them because many of these guns have moved from just unregistered to prohib so they're just

00:05:29.820 throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks. But he points out that while the liberals

00:05:37.120 are hell bent on spending $6 billion on a policy, we now know the liberals didn't even bother to

00:05:44.320 test to see if it would work or study to see if it would work. Firearms crimes have increased 10%

00:05:51.920 between 2020 to 2022 the rate of firearm related violent crime was 36.3 or 36.7 incidents per

00:06:00.340 hundred thousand and that was an increase by nine from nine percent in 2021 so the year over year

00:06:07.580 increased nearly 10 percent and that's the highest recorded rate of increase since they started

00:06:15.760 collecting the data in 2009. And then they also know this is the one thing the government might

00:06:23.460 actually know, but they don't want us to know. They know that lawfully held firearms aren't the

00:06:29.020 problem. And this is according to StatsCan. The firearms used in homicides are rarely legal

00:06:33.820 firearms used by their legal owners. However, crimes committed by organized crime have increased

00:06:39.380 170% since 2016. And yet $6 billion is being shot out of a fire hose at people who aren't

00:06:51.840 committing the crimes while the bad guys are running amok and getting reduced sentences.

00:06:56.600 Yeah. Well, and this is the problem of things like Bill C-75 and Bill C-5 that softened the

00:07:03.980 sentencing for some very serious violent crimes, including firearm related violence. And at the

00:07:10.080 same time, they're banning guns from law-abiding citizens like you and I who've never done anything

00:07:15.300 wrong. To suggest that this policy would have any positive impact, especially when you're doing all

00:07:22.600 these terrible things on the softening of sentences, is ridiculous. And my friend Christine 0.76

00:07:28.200 Jenneru. She's the self-rep in the court challenge against the gun grab. And she's just a total

00:07:35.040 hero to the community, smart as a whip. And she said in court to the judge that the purpose of

00:07:43.140 gun control should be to prevent the misuse of firearms, not the legitimate use of firearms.

00:07:48.880 And I think that's really important. I, you know, we're regular people, Sheila, you and I,

00:07:54.600 I also want to save for community. I want to save for country. I want less bad guys to have guns. This isn't the way to do it. Every single indicator proves that. And yet they cling to this. And that's how we know that the minister told the truth. And it is purely a political policy based on getting votes out of Quebec, which is ridiculous.

00:08:17.360 Right. And, you know, the media is supportive of this. They're completely unskeptical of the government's policy attacking the law abiding and letting the bad guys just skate with lenient sentences or frequently no sentences at all if it jeopardizes their immigration status.

00:08:38.660 And they avoid experts in the field. I remember when Caliber magazine, representing stakeholders, was blocked from attending a press conference on the gun grab because the press conference was held on Parliament Hill, which means the parliamentary press gallery controls access and they wouldn't give them access.

00:09:03.760 So, you know, even if conservatives are holding a press conference and they want the independent journalists there, the media gangs up and keeps them out.

00:09:12.520 And then the media brings on people who are pro-gun grab to ask them to get in the heads of people like you and I.

00:09:21.800 And they just perpetrate these myths when they're perfectly fine experts like you saying, hi, right here.

00:09:29.820 Yeah, government funded TVO actually just did that.

00:09:32.680 They had a segment called, where are all the undeclared firearms?

00:09:37.240 Because of course, out of the 2 million affected firearms, there's only been 67,000 some odd

00:09:44.860 firearms declared by 30,000 people.

00:09:47.660 So they're like, well, wait a minute, where's all the rest of them?

00:09:50.840 So who do they have on to discuss that with?

00:09:53.180 Mark Campbell, a police chief association guy, and Wendy Suki, an anti-gun lobbyist.

00:09:58.480 so they're trying to get into Wendy's head to find out why people aren't complying well she

00:10:04.460 doesn't represent those people the funniest or well it's not even funny the most tragic part

00:10:10.320 of that entire interview was listening to Mark Campbell talk about his fears because they were

00:10:16.060 asking him well what happens if people don't comply with this and the amnesty comes and goes

00:10:20.880 and now they're in illegal possession and prohibited firearms then what happens when it

00:10:25.340 comes to enforcement and Campbell said that this is the problem he said in Ontario alone there's

00:10:31.200 250,000 new criminal cases every year introduced into the justice system these are legitimate

00:10:38.680 criminal cases of a variety of different offenses to criminalize hundreds of thousands of Ontario

00:10:47.980 gun owners and this is just one province right he says will absolutely collapse the entire justice

00:10:53.920 system and because these will be firearm related uh cases if a gun owner was to be charged and i'm

00:11:01.080 using air quotes um the it would take precedent and priority over other perhaps violent but not

00:11:09.900 involving criminal case or firearm cases so he is worried at the fact that this will absolutely

00:11:17.260 collapse the entire justice system of course law enforcement already stretched thin will be

00:11:23.440 you know stretched even thinner and we will see actual violent criminals be released because the

00:11:30.100 courts will be full up of gun owners trying to defend themselves against these tyrants so

00:11:34.980 you know like is this really what we is this how we get to be a safer country well and what end

00:11:43.100 you know for sure and you know i have to laud you on your good work because while it seems like the

00:11:51.380 politicians are unbudging these police chiefs and police organizations all across the country

00:11:57.100 you approach them yes i did and you ask them are you going to enforce the the gun grab or do you

00:12:04.440 have better things to do with your time and your resources and you have prompted police agencies

00:12:09.520 from all across the country to come out and say like look we're going to do something else we've

00:12:14.980 got better things to do um and i think that's commendable because you know the the liberals

00:12:21.480 are hell-bent on wasting six billion dollars and no one will be the safer um and the police

00:12:26.840 organizations know that and it's quite something to see them make these public statements after

00:12:31.900 you're approaching them i never thought they would actually be so public about it i thought maybe i

00:12:37.560 might get a response to an email you know and i think once uh one or two of them started it

00:12:44.900 sort of caught on and of course now we're down to a situation where across a country with i think

00:12:50.540 180 or hundreds literally hundreds of municipalities and you've got what six that have

00:12:57.700 signed a deal the overwhelming majority of this country has completely rejected the gun ban

00:13:02.900 and law enforcement is included in that so um i don't think there has been any other policy in

00:13:10.960 the history of this country that has seen such large opposition from high-ranking law enforcement

00:13:18.280 officials as this one. And I think if Carney wants to salvage any type of reputation for the liberals

00:13:26.140 on public safety, the best thing he could do is cancel this. And if he refuses to do that,

00:13:32.140 that's okay. We're taking it all the way to the Supreme Court. And maybe that's what he's counting

00:13:36.320 on he doesn't want to have to answer to natalie in his cabinet about uh why he's canceled this

00:13:42.040 gun grab so a winning court would of course alleviate alleviate him of having to take

00:13:48.000 responsibility for that but still let him off the hook right for this so i i don't know it's a bit

00:13:54.780 of a mess but um for those law enforcement agencies that have struck a deal so be it i'm

00:14:00.800 going to put hundreds if not thousands of people on their front lawn so every time uh somebody

00:14:06.520 strikes a deal with the liberals to do this gun grab we will oppose it with a massive rally in

00:14:12.180 their front yard and of course it makes headlines and news and the whole town and city talks about

00:14:17.160 it and the the good people of these jurisdictions deserve to know that their police chiefs who are

00:14:24.420 making these bad decisions and like i said there's like six um are putting their public safety at

00:14:30.620 risk. Now, last time I talked to you, we were awaiting the decision for the Supreme Court to

00:14:39.220 hear your case. Give us an update on that and also let people know how they can support these

00:14:44.740 efforts because you guys are up against the government, which has all of our money to waste

00:14:50.400 fighting gun owners, and you are grassroots funded by people and gun clubs who just believe in

00:14:57.940 freedom. Yeah, that's right. So the Supreme Court hears very few cases. It's not like the, you know,

00:15:04.940 we've already been to the federal court and the appeals court and they're basically you've, you

00:15:09.440 know, you file your paper, you pay your lawyers and you go. At the Supreme Court, they decide what

00:15:14.420 they hear. And of course they hear very few, about 6% overall of all cases. In fact, I think there

00:15:21.240 was like 26 different cases, you know, unrelated to our case on the docket for the Supreme Court

00:15:27.180 They rejected them all except ours. And there seems to be this thing that's happening lately

00:15:32.540 with the Supreme Court where they are ruling against the government in a number of different

00:15:36.920 cases. So, you know, a lot of people worry that the Supreme Court justices, what if they're

00:15:44.560 captured or what if they're compromised in some way? And I'm like, look, they could have very

00:15:50.260 easily have left the decision out of the lower courts, which are still high courts, in place.

00:15:57.400 And that would have been their decision, right? They could have said, no, we simply agree with

00:16:02.440 the decision out of the appeals court or the federal court. We've lost in both places and

00:16:07.380 leave it at that. And it would be a done deal. But there's something in there that they like

00:16:10.940 and they want to hear it out. So we're going to go all the way. We promised gun owners we'd do

00:16:16.860 everything that we could. We've spent millions of dollars this far and we didn't only come this far

00:16:23.100 to only come this far. So we're going to, we're going to fight it all the way and we're not going

00:16:28.920 to cheap out and, you know, file something, fundraise off of it, and then just show up on

00:16:34.020 the last day to, you know, plead an argument. Like we are going to litigate this thing thoroughly,

00:16:39.800 completely, and hire the very best, most competent people in the country. Like we've assembled a

00:16:45.220 huge team it's very expensive but this if we're gonna do this we're gonna do it right we're gonna

00:16:50.540 do it all the way so yeah there's nothing more expensive than a cheap lawyer as Ezra always

00:16:58.040 tells me um and you know even if the supreme court is ideologically captured what else are

00:17:04.320 we supposed to do here all we can do is fight yeah well and these are the tools that are available

00:17:11.040 to us right you're right the government has all the power they've got all the money they've got

00:17:15.060 everything so for an average joe like you or i to go to the supreme court to fight our government

00:17:20.860 we could never do it i mean you know a five thousand dollar retainer would probably collapse

00:17:26.400 me personally right now so the idea of having people band together under a the banner of a

00:17:32.940 group like ours where we we can fight together that makes us very strong because if a lot of

00:17:39.140 people do a little bit then nobody has to do a lot so people have been supporting us we just

00:17:45.160 finished the raining guns contest it was like so successful beyond anything I could have imagined

00:17:51.060 we gave away 100 guns which is crazy um and yeah we're just going to keep fundraising

00:17:57.380 keep working and our motto like I have it on the the wall in my office is do everything all the way

00:18:04.840 all the time that's it just keep going so that's what we're gonna do and do well i know you will

00:18:11.740 now yeah you ccfr holds events and before i get to the upcoming one where you'll find me

00:18:20.320 i just want to tell you how much fun david menzies had at the toronto sportsman show

00:18:26.160 he was like she was like she was that was the best assignment ever thank you for sending me

00:18:32.940 well wait he called me on my cell before he came in and he's like sheila tells me you've got this

00:18:40.160 job for me uh are you serious i'm going to be shooting guns with pretty girls i'm like oh yeah

00:18:45.300 i mean they're likely to beat you but you're gonna have a good time just the same and yeah

00:18:50.640 they whipped him but yeah he he enjoyed that and then of course he actually actually came

00:18:55.740 to the waterloo region rally yes and he asked me the first question he asked me in the interview

00:19:00.920 was where was the gunny girls uh funny enough there were a couple there so uh yeah david's

00:19:06.700 always happy to see them but yeah he's adorable yeah we've got to get him a calendar this year

00:19:11.500 absolutely yeah yeah oh yeah he's getting a calendar now it's not too late to get tickets

00:19:20.140 to the ccfr agm in toronto but it is fast approaching tell us about it yeah ticket sales

00:19:27.860 are over on monday um we have the ccfr agm coming up last year we were planning a big one and we

00:19:35.780 ended up canceling it because it came it was just in the wake of the election and we just felt like

00:19:41.500 you know to be perfectly honest nobody felt like celebrating anything and we just wanted to focus

00:19:47.960 on work but it is really important to get together with your people and connect with people so we are

00:19:53.940 hosting our AGM on May 23rd in Mississauga, which is Toronto. It's about a two-minute drive from the

00:20:02.340 airport at the Sandman Signature Hotel. All the details can be found at ccfragm.ca, but we've got

00:20:10.040 a full schedule. We'll have our business meeting in the morning. That's the financials, the legal

00:20:14.840 update, department updates, all the boring stuff. And then after lunch, we're going to do an Ask Me

00:20:19.880 anything with rod and i people love that they like to ask us all kinds of questions we've got

00:20:25.760 a fireside chat with randy arsenow you're going to really like him he's that tiktok cop yeah

00:20:31.080 awesome guy he's terrific we've got the saskatchewan firearm commissioner uh guys coming

00:20:37.520 so that's bob freeberg who just retired and blaine bevins who took his place really brilliant guys

00:20:45.040 and Saskatchewan's kind of kicking butt leading the fight on protecting gun owners. So we're

00:20:51.140 going to hear all about their crafty little plans that they've made. And then we've got

00:20:57.180 Northern Perspective is coming to Ryan and Tanya, you know, those guys, they're going to come and

00:21:02.060 Ryan gave a really good message of hope at the Waterloo region rally. And I think that's kind

00:21:07.800 of important. Gun owners have been beat up the last 10 years for sure. And of course, he'll lead

00:21:12.480 us into grace and then the big show is you sheila you're our keynote speaker i am after dinner so

00:21:19.940 we're really looking forward to that we thought we've also got uh from from your province alberta

00:21:25.660 cfo terry bryant's coming nice it's like an all-star cast so lots to see the tickets are

00:21:32.660 not expensive the dinner is going to be incredible we've got the laser range is going to be set up

00:21:37.420 there so we can have a duel it's a lot of fun okay we'll be selling ccfr swag dirty leather is going

00:21:43.820 to be there making custom ccfr belts on the spot love it get yourself a big old alberta belt buckle

00:21:50.520 on there yes and yeah we're just gonna have fun we're gonna have door prizes i've got some cool

00:21:56.640 things to give away and keepsakes and all kinds of stuff going on so yeah ccfr agm.ca yes and

00:22:05.000 many members of the rebel team will be there for the dinner as well. So if you need another reason

00:22:10.020 to buy a ticket, we are, we are, we are. When they heard I was speaking, they're like, why didn't you

00:22:15.780 tell us we're, we're all going to be there. Well, if you listen to me talk every day, I didn't think

00:22:21.240 you'd want to come, but anyway, yeah, I, I'm looking so forward to it. It's going to be such

00:22:26.420 a blast. Yeah, it is going to be fun. And I, you know, some people are asking me, why are you

00:22:32.240 bringing the laser range because we've been having that at the gun shows that's what menzie shot

00:22:36.020 and i'm like why not you know i think it's fun i mean if you're not really feeling like you know

00:22:41.840 having a sociable cocktail or whatever you can go have a duel with somebody why not yeah a lot of

00:22:47.180 fun yeah for sure now tracy tell people how they can get involved in the ccfr um in your efforts to

00:22:54.720 fight back against the government um there are multiple different ways um because you do such

00:23:00.100 strong advocacy work for us. And please don't forget to mention the store because you guys

00:23:05.700 have a great store as well. Yeah, the swag shop is awesome. And we've got some new stuff coming

00:23:11.480 out in there as well for our friends in Quebec. So that's a little hint. That'll be released

00:23:16.700 at the AGM as well. But we got all kinds of good stuff. Go to ccfr.ca and go to the merch shop.

00:23:23.880 But while you're there, check out a membership. There is strength in numbers. And when I can walk

00:23:28.920 into the halls of parliament and tell them i represent x number of people of course the larger

00:23:34.540 that x is the better right so we are canada's largest stakeholder on this file but we we need

00:23:42.380 more we always need more help and of course you can donate on there but download the ccfr app

00:23:47.600 it's free to download it can host your membership on there gives you direct access to everything

00:23:53.280 And of course, if the government ever cuts off our means of communication or our social media, it's a direct link between you and I. So very important.

00:24:03.220 You know, that's a very smart thing to do is to be able to connect directly with your people without going through a platform that would be manipulated or blackmailed by the government. Facebook meta. I'm talking about you.

00:24:15.840 yes exactly so that's why we have that and it's totally free to download and if you're a member

00:24:23.100 it hosts your membership card oh nice there's all there's all kinds of discounts from retailers

00:24:27.840 there so I bought I bought my membership for 40 bucks then I bought a gun at one of the retailers

00:24:34.560 I got 40 bucks off my gun so my membership was free and now if I use those discounts I'm actually

00:24:42.320 making money. So yeah. Nice. Making money and fighting for freedom. My two favorite things to

00:24:47.960 do. Tracy, thanks so much for coming on the show. We'll have you back on very soon,

00:24:53.840 but I will see you on the 23rd. I'll see you there. Thanks a lot, Sheila. Thanks.

00:25:12.320 well as always the last portion of the show goes to you our viewers at home because without you

00:25:19.680 there is no rebel news as you know we'll never take a penny from the government to do the work

00:25:23.660 that we do to hold the government to account you would view everything we do as a politically

00:25:30.400 contaminated story at least or perhaps a grant application at best so we rely on you at home

00:25:40.260 If you want to talk to me directly about my interview today with my friend Tracy Wilson from the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights, my email is sheila at rebelnews.com.

00:25:51.100 Put gun show letters in the subject line.

00:25:52.920 It'll land directly in my email inbox.

00:25:55.920 But I also go looking for what you say about all of the things that we do here at Rebel News, not just my own work.

00:26:03.780 And I frequently check the YouTube comments and the rumble comments for what you have to say.

00:26:08.480 And if you are watching us on YouTube or Rumble, I know you're watching a premium show right now, but if you're watching some of our other content, please leave a comment, give it a thumbs up, because the more you engage with our content, the more the platforms show it in front of other people.

00:26:26.180 So I know you've already paid eight bucks a month to be here, but that's a great free way to help Rebel News spread the good word of freedom, small government, personal responsibility.

00:26:38.080 So today's viewer comments actually don't come from my work, but they come from Ezra's report from the site of a synagogue in the Toronto area that was shot at by a replica firearm.

00:26:56.180 And again, liberals are apparently doing nothing about this sort of stuff. It seems like every single day there's another story of an act of anti-Semitism happening in Toronto, girl schools being shot at multiple times with real guns, menorahs being vandalized, fights breaking out on the lawns of synagogues, Islamists marching through the streets.

00:27:20.340 And again, apparently, we are the biggest public safety risk us law abiding firearms owners who subject ourselves to daily background checks at the hands of the state. So let's get into the comments. Jeff Allen, 3140 writes, I lived there many years ago, it was one of the most peaceful areas in the city back then sad to see what has happened there now.

00:27:39.820 So, yeah, that's what unfettered mass migration, coupled with progressive city council, overly permissive of this nonsense, provincial government, and then federal government immigration policies.

00:27:55.520 We'll get you. It's all just converging on Toronto.

00:27:58.720 so david kettlewell 7937 says as to mark carney as far as i know canadian values do not include

00:28:07.380 honor killing suicide bombings and ramming cars into crowds yes a car was actually rammed into a

00:28:15.240 pro-iranian freedom event just over the weekend but this stuff is so frequent it's almost out of

00:28:23.520 the news cycle now. Isn't that wild? Dig in deep. Amazing how much can change in 10 years. I don't

00:28:30.980 recognize my home anymore. Try to get a coffee. Try to get your oil changed. You'll see how much

00:28:38.180 this country has changed. Ren Hamilton, G1C says, who gave him the right to bring in a new world

00:28:47.760 order that the globalists have invented? Well, I guess the voters in Eastern and Central Canada

00:28:52.720 i did i guess can you sense my frustration as an albertan you know

00:29:01.520 last one michelle peltier m7n says unarmed citizens are the most vulnerable population 0.95

00:29:11.840 of corrupt politicians and carny is as dirty as trudeau canadians have my heart my grandparents

00:29:19.200 migrated to the US and I don't want euthanized elderly, mentally ill and poor people to happen 0.99

00:29:24.580 with radical Islamists taking over. It's true. Well, everybody, that's the show for today. Thank 0.76

00:29:33.880 you so much for tuning in. What a dark note to end on. Sorry. Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:29:39.000 I'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week. Don't forget to get

00:29:43.220 your tickets to the CCFR AGM where you'll see me as the keynote speaker. I hope to see you there.

00:29:50.020 And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

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Rebel News Podcast - May 14, 2026

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ CCFR's Tracey Wilson on the baseless Liberal gun confiscation plan

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