Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Charlottetown says no to the gun buyback

00:00:00.000 Big victory in Charlottetown for firearms owners.

00:00:02.820 We'll talk about it today.

00:00:03.940 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:23.520 I don't know if you saw the live streams from my friend Tracy Wilson

00:00:28.060 from the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Writes, the CCFR.

00:00:31.100 But on Tuesday, Charlottetown, PEI, City Council,

00:00:38.120 all 10 members of the City Council rejected the Liberal plan

00:00:44.180 to use their city as a testing ground

00:00:48.760 for their nationwide rollout of their gun grab.

00:00:53.060 And I think City Council would have went the other way

00:00:58.200 if not for activists on the ground, the CCFR and their advocacy

00:01:04.560 and the presence of the Conservative Party of Canada.

00:01:10.100 The City Council had only heard from, well, the Liberal gun grabbers

00:01:14.940 and they hadn't heard the other side of the story.

00:01:17.620 But when they were presented with all the facts

00:01:21.340 and a little bit of pressure, well, guess what?

00:01:24.160 Things went our way.

00:01:26.220 And when I say our way, I mean the way of people

00:01:28.580 who believe in firearms rights

00:01:31.820 and responsible crime policy that doesn't target the law-abiding.

00:01:36.780 So, of course, I'm having Tracy on today to discuss what happened.

00:01:40.540 She'll explain it in better detail than I did.

00:01:43.300 I just finished an interview with her from her hotel room in Charlottetown.

00:01:48.440 She has to get off to the airport, so the show is a little shorter than normal.

00:01:53.180 But it's a huge win. It's great news.

00:01:57.100 So let's take a listen.

00:02:01.740 Thank you, Your Worship.

00:02:03.060 Protective and Emergency Services Resolution No. 1,

00:02:06.040 moved by Councillor Julie McCabe

00:02:07.640 and seconded by Councillor Kevin Ramsey.

00:02:09.560 Let it be resolved that the City enters into an agreement

00:02:12.200 with the Federal Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

00:02:15.600 in relation to the Assault Cell Firearms Compensation Program

00:02:18.820 and that the Mayor and the CEO are hereby authorized

00:02:21.020 to execute the standard contracts and agreements to implement this resolution.

00:02:25.400 So, as Chair of the Protective and Emergency Services Committee,

00:02:29.700 I do want to note that this item was first brought to our Committee for consideration

00:02:33.640 in closed session, again, because of the contractual potential agreements.

00:02:37.880 However, at that time, the Committee felt that the Federal Gun Buyback Program

00:02:41.760 warranted a full Council discussion.

00:02:44.120 It was more than what we felt we were willing to do as a Committee,

00:02:47.800 so hence we brought it directly to Council

00:02:49.980 without an actual recommendation from our Committee.

00:02:54.420 After reviewing the details personally,

00:02:56.360 I'm not prepared to support what staff's recommending,

00:02:59.200 which is to participate in this program.

00:03:03.120 For me, it's a federally mandated initiative

00:03:04.820 that falls within the established responsibilities of already existing RCMP

00:03:08.400 and taking this on at the municipal level would duplicate existing services.

00:03:13.180 It would also place additional strain, in my opinion,

00:03:15.340 on our administrative and operational staff at a time

00:03:17.960 when our resources are already limited.

00:03:20.880 And I think if we have opportunity for extra work,

00:03:24.560 again, to duplicate services doesn't make sense.

00:03:26.820 I'd rather see them be used in a preventative way.

00:03:29.680 I have lots of ideas if there's extra staff resource time.

00:03:33.520 I also believe that our municipality needs to focus on the priorities

00:03:37.360 that clearly fall within our own jurisdictions.

00:03:39.940 Our municipal police services continue to fulfill its mandate

00:03:43.380 consistently with existing legislation and operational protocols.

00:03:46.880 They remain committed to safeguarding our community

00:03:49.100 and carry out this responsibility every day

00:03:51.340 with professionalism and dedication.

00:03:53.580 So for this reason, I'm going to not support

00:03:55.980 the recommendation to participate in this federal program.

00:03:58.640 Thank you.

00:04:00.900 Councilor Deputy Mayor Alana Yanka.

00:04:03.640 Thank you, Chair.

00:04:04.740 And I just made a few notes myself.

00:04:08.480 I just want to be very clear this evening

00:04:10.660 that I will not be supporting the request

00:04:12.660 for the City of Charlottetown to enter into an agreement

00:04:15.400 with the federal government regarding the assault-style

00:04:18.060 firearm compensation program.

00:04:20.040 This is, in my view, a download of federal responsibilities

00:04:23.000 onto municipal government.

00:04:24.520 And I do not believe Charlottetown taxpayers

00:04:26.380 or municipal staff should be absorbing administrative,

00:04:29.760 operational, or reputational burden

00:04:31.660 of executing a federal firearms initiative.

00:04:35.120 Our municipality is already stretched responding

00:04:37.480 to core local priorities, planning, infrastructure, housing,

00:04:40.940 transit, protective services.

00:04:42.640 And I firmly believe that we should not be taking on responsibilities

00:04:45.800 that fall squarely within the federal jurisdiction.

00:04:48.880 So, again, like Councilor McCabe,

00:04:50.720 I will not be supporting the resolution this evening.

00:04:53.720 Thank you.

00:04:54.580 Mayor Redekopoulos.

00:04:54.800 Councilor Terry Bernard.

00:04:56.000 Board 10.

00:04:58.000 Board what?

00:04:58.660 10.

00:04:59.140 Oh, boy.

00:05:00.660 Thank you.

00:05:02.800 Yeah, just a couple of comments.

00:05:04.260 I know when we had our closed-door meeting,

00:05:06.640 and usually when you have a closed-door session,

00:05:08.760 the item is discussed, and there's a reason why it's in closed-doors,

00:05:11.260 as far as we've read out in the MTA.

00:05:14.000 Normally, it would go back to the committee for a recommendation.

00:05:17.640 And I think, yeah, Councilor McCabe has stood up

00:05:19.840 and said she didn't want to go back,

00:05:21.020 that it was in Council,

00:05:22.180 and Council had a full discussion about it.

00:05:23.920 So, to me, the proper process would be

00:05:26.560 it comes to Council for a vote.

00:05:29.600 Very, I'm glad we had the information shared

00:05:31.840 that we did from the police services.

00:05:35.200 Definitely not something that I'm interested in.

00:05:37.080 If they want to take their rifles back to RCMP barracks

00:05:41.280 in University Avenue, they can so do that.

00:05:43.480 I don't know why we would get involved as a municipality.

00:05:47.200 So, to me, it's a federal program.

00:05:49.120 There's no need for the municipality to get involved in it.

00:05:51.900 If people wanted to volunteer their rifles,

00:05:56.640 they can take it up in University Avenue and do that.

00:05:58.300 So, I don't think we need to involve our police services.

00:06:00.820 They're busy enough.

00:06:01.840 They got a lot on their plate.

00:06:03.140 So, I think, like I said, it's a federal program.

00:06:05.400 We'll keep it with the federal government.

00:06:07.140 Thank you.

00:06:07.760 Councilor Patel, more two.

00:06:09.340 Thank you, Your Worship.

00:06:10.380 I'd also like to just add some comments

00:06:12.280 to the discussion this evening.

00:06:14.580 So, my research indicates that this program

00:06:17.020 has been brought with controversy across the country.

00:06:20.440 There appears to be considerable misinformation

00:06:22.560 in the media and on social platforms

00:06:24.860 regarding the program,

00:06:25.840 specifically around terminology

00:06:27.460 defining an assault-style firearm

00:06:30.080 and whether participation is voluntary or mandatory.

00:06:33.700 To date, I believe there are only two jurisdictions

00:06:35.840 that have participated, Cape Breton and Winnipeg.

00:06:38.800 This suggests to me that other jurisdictions

00:06:41.100 either do not support the federal legislation,

00:06:44.500 believe the program targets law-abiding owners

00:06:47.240 rather than criminals,

00:06:48.440 and questions the nature of assault-style ban,

00:06:51.060 or are concerned about the financial cost to taxpayers,

00:06:53.760 which is estimated in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

00:06:56.680 So, these factors highlight the controversy

00:06:59.600 and complexity surrounding gun control

00:07:01.480 and lawful firearm owners' rights

00:07:06.100 and provincial municipal jurisdictions.

00:07:08.980 So, to my understanding,

00:07:10.960 some provinces are not permitting provincially contracted

00:07:13.460 and funded RCMP to administer the program

00:07:15.540 as it's an administrative compensation program

00:07:18.500 rather than a primary policing issue.

00:07:21.620 The OPP have refused to participate

00:07:24.420 in the collection and compensation aspects of the program,

00:07:27.460 and outside of Cape Breton and Winnipeg,

00:07:29.200 I have not found any evidence

00:07:30.640 to support other municipal police services participating.

00:07:34.220 So, in my view,

00:07:35.420 our police services face many municipal-level crime

00:07:38.140 and safety concerns

00:07:39.140 that require their immediate attention.

00:07:41.760 Diverting time and resources

00:07:43.100 from these priorities to participate

00:07:44.840 in the program

00:07:46.220 is not an efficient use of municipal resources.

00:07:48.500 In my view, the program does not constitute

00:07:51.320 a primary policing issue

00:07:53.000 for the city of Charlottetown.

00:07:55.140 Therefore, I'm not willing to support the program.

00:07:57.500 I'm not going to support the resolution this evening.

00:08:00.700 And as many indicated,

00:08:01.720 it is a federal mandate,

00:08:03.360 and I believe that it should follow through

00:08:05.700 the federal processes that are occurring

00:08:08.400 and not be at a municipal level.

00:08:10.220 Thank you.

00:08:10.820 I had the opportunity yesterday,

00:08:13.060 along with two or three other elected officials,

00:08:16.040 to attend the meeting at the Rod's Royalty Inn,

00:08:19.420 which was hosted by the gun owners.

00:08:22.020 It was a very informative session.

00:08:24.380 It's unfortunate the rest of the council

00:08:25.820 didn't have the opportunity to hear the meeting.

00:08:28.360 I thought the meeting was very cordial,

00:08:31.460 very respectful,

00:08:32.860 and it certainly brought a lot of information

00:08:36.440 and put the proper context

00:08:38.000 as to what's behind this particular initiative.

00:08:41.620 An initiative by the federal government

00:08:43.160 that was never discussed in the House of Commons.

00:08:46.200 No legislation ever passed,

00:08:47.880 but nonetheless,

00:08:49.620 it was done in order in council.

00:08:51.440 So we talk about openness and transparency,

00:08:54.220 null and void.

00:08:55.360 Null and void.

00:08:56.740 It's such a good program,

00:08:58.140 it should be able to stand on its own.

00:09:00.080 But we've heard about municipalities across Canada.

00:09:03.820 We've heard from provincial governments

00:09:05.440 that have said no to this particular program.

00:09:10.680 It seems to me that the emphasis put on

00:09:13.460 law-abiding, legal gun owners

00:09:16.200 that could, through proper training,

00:09:18.800 on a consistent basis,

00:09:20.720 report to the authorities,

00:09:23.080 such as, in this particular case,

00:09:24.900 the RCMP,

00:09:25.980 accounted for,

00:09:27.260 responsible,

00:09:28.340 and consistent in their due diligence

00:09:30.520 to make sure that

00:09:31.540 all firearms are safe,

00:09:33.340 but there doesn't seem to be any emphasis

00:09:35.420 put on illegal gun owners

00:09:37.900 and illegal guns

00:09:39.380 that are on the streets in this country.

00:09:41.440 That's where, to my mind,

00:09:43.660 the federal government,

00:09:45.380 I think, has missed the boat.

00:09:46.840 I think the priorities are misplaced.

00:09:49.000 Instead of targeting

00:09:50.200 or going after

00:09:51.660 illegal gun owners,

00:09:54.380 the emphasis should be on

00:09:55.800 illegal gun owners

00:09:57.400 that are being smuggled in

00:09:59.340 across the border

00:10:00.360 or in from the United States

00:10:01.500 into Canada,

00:10:02.640 particularly in provinces

00:10:03.660 like Quebec and Ontario,

00:10:05.540 along with drugs.

00:10:07.340 Some are manufactured

00:10:08.380 in this country,

00:10:09.300 but a lot of it's being

00:10:10.280 smuggled into the country.

00:10:12.660 So,

00:10:13.480 I think that,

00:10:14.860 to my mind,

00:10:15.960 Safety Canada

00:10:17.660 and the minister responsible

00:10:19.020 need to change the priorities.

00:10:21.480 And let's respect

00:10:22.260 the legal gun owners

00:10:23.700 and the accountability mechanism

00:10:27.720 that they must adhere to,

00:10:28.960 and let's start going after

00:10:30.780 the real culprits

00:10:31.580 in our society.

00:10:32.620 Thank you.

00:10:33.340 Councilor McKeon.

00:10:34.540 Thank you.

00:10:35.220 And thank you,

00:10:35.960 Councilor Twill.

00:10:36.600 And, you know,

00:10:37.040 maybe we can

00:10:38.080 write a letter or something.

00:10:40.160 But for tonight,

00:10:40.760 I'd like to get back

00:10:41.420 to the resolution at hand

00:10:42.540 as to whether or not

00:10:43.240 we, as the City of Charlottetown,

00:10:44.800 want to participate

00:10:45.460 in this program

00:10:46.720 and keep it kind of focused

00:10:48.580 on what we are

00:10:49.320 responsible to do tonight.

00:10:51.800 I would like to call the question.

00:10:53.600 All those in favor of it.

00:10:55.880 All those against.

00:10:56.880 10-0.

00:11:18.000 So joining me now,

00:11:19.380 fresh off what I think

00:11:21.260 she's dubbed the showdown

00:11:22.560 in Charlottetown,

00:11:23.700 is Tracy Wilson

00:11:25.220 from the Canadian Coalition

00:11:28.160 for Firearms Rights.

00:11:29.480 And I cannot believe

00:11:31.640 what she pulled off yesterday.

00:11:33.280 But I also can believe it

00:11:34.600 because if anyone

00:11:35.420 was going to do it,

00:11:36.600 it was going to be Tracy

00:11:37.640 and the CCFR.

00:11:39.440 So Tracy,

00:11:40.900 explain to us

00:11:41.940 what happened

00:11:42.800 and why Charlottetown

00:11:43.960 is so important.

00:11:46.020 Well, I don't know

00:11:46.820 if I can live up

00:11:47.440 to all of that.

00:11:48.140 There was a lot

00:11:48.680 of other people involved.

00:11:49.580 So I don't want to

00:11:50.420 take all the credit.

00:11:51.420 Yeah, this was amazing.

00:11:52.880 We were here in Charlottetown.

00:11:54.460 I'm just getting ready

00:11:55.140 for a flight back to Ottawa.

00:11:57.120 And we kind of intervened

00:11:59.780 on a city council meeting

00:12:01.700 where they were going

00:12:02.540 to be voting on a motion

00:12:03.620 to help the Liberals,

00:12:05.100 you know,

00:12:05.780 perpetrate this gun grab

00:12:06.900 against their citizens.

00:12:08.520 And you and I

00:12:09.360 were talking about this,

00:12:10.460 that we were actually

00:12:11.340 here a day early

00:12:12.340 because there was a meeting

00:12:13.900 that was facilitated

00:12:14.920 by Angie McDonald

00:12:16.340 from the Big Boot Gun Club.

00:12:17.700 So shout out to her.

00:12:19.100 She does a great job.

00:12:20.580 And there was a variety

00:12:21.560 of different stakeholders there.

00:12:23.260 There were some gun shops

00:12:24.380 and different gun owners

00:12:25.380 and, you know,

00:12:26.280 different stakeholders.

00:12:27.240 But there was also

00:12:28.100 law enforcement.

00:12:29.220 There was RCMP.

00:12:30.560 There was some city councillors.

00:12:32.160 Most of them did not join us.

00:12:34.380 But there was a few.

00:12:35.520 The mayor showed up

00:12:36.580 and this was his idea entirely.

00:12:40.500 Local law enforcement,

00:12:41.900 the CFO was there.

00:12:42.940 There was a whole crew

00:12:43.980 of people there.

00:12:44.620 And so we went in

00:12:46.000 and we did it like a Q&A.

00:12:47.700 Because you have to remember

00:12:49.820 the only information

00:12:51.140 that these city councils

00:12:53.900 or town councils receive

00:12:55.440 is what they're getting

00:12:56.740 from Gary and Nanda Sangary.

00:12:58.200 And he has been

00:12:58.660 a very busy little beaver

00:13:00.020 running around

00:13:01.320 lobbying all these

00:13:02.600 municipal municipalities

00:13:04.200 and their police forces

00:13:05.480 to help him.

00:13:06.820 And so they thought

00:13:07.660 they were doing

00:13:08.120 this great thing.

00:13:09.020 They're, excuse me,

00:13:10.480 going to help their constituents

00:13:11.680 get paid for their banned guns.

00:13:13.660 And this is for public safety.

00:13:15.440 And they had it all wrong.

00:13:17.860 So we were able to intervene

00:13:18.940 with a bunch of stats

00:13:20.200 and information

00:13:20.940 and literally flip that vote

00:13:23.600 because we were 100%

00:13:25.300 going to lose that vote.

00:13:27.020 Not only did we win the vote

00:13:28.780 and the motion was defeated

00:13:30.220 to help the Liberals,

00:13:31.940 but it was unanimous.

00:13:33.680 10 out of 10 city councillors

00:13:35.680 voted against it.

00:13:37.320 And they even had little speeches

00:13:39.260 and spoke against

00:13:40.440 the actions

00:13:41.600 by the Liberal government.

00:13:42.540 So huge win out here

00:13:44.400 in the little island of PEI.

00:13:46.920 And, you know,

00:13:47.980 it appears to me

00:13:48.940 that the Liberals

00:13:51.040 are going to these,

00:13:52.240 as you said

00:13:53.160 before we started rolling,

00:13:54.620 these economically disadvantaged

00:13:56.320 but Liberal voting places,

00:13:58.740 reliably Liberal voting places,

00:14:00.540 to try to claim

00:14:02.060 that their gun grab program

00:14:03.500 is a success.

00:14:04.420 But as you know,

00:14:05.400 it totally isn't

00:14:06.500 because in Cape Breton,

00:14:08.500 they only got 22 firearms

00:14:11.020 turned in at a cost

00:14:12.100 of about $7,000 a piece.

00:14:14.260 But yet they persist.

00:14:16.340 In fact,

00:14:16.680 they are planning

00:14:17.580 to launch this in Winnipeg,

00:14:20.160 which is really important

00:14:21.100 that people understand

00:14:22.620 that they can make a difference

00:14:24.160 if they start organizing now

00:14:25.860 and focusing their attention

00:14:27.740 at Winnipeg.

00:14:28.980 Yeah, absolutely.

00:14:29.940 So unfortunately,

00:14:30.660 it's already a done deal

00:14:32.060 in Winnipeg.

00:14:32.860 Like the municipality there

00:14:34.620 has signed a deal

00:14:35.740 with the federal government.

00:14:36.660 Now,

00:14:37.420 I got some information yesterday

00:14:38.800 that they are sort of,

00:14:40.960 you know,

00:14:41.300 having some buyer's remorse.

00:14:42.900 I think they thought

00:14:43.880 everybody was going

00:14:44.700 to sign on to this.

00:14:46.000 Let's go ahead

00:14:46.500 and make our deal.

00:14:47.200 And you have to remember,

00:14:47.920 there's a great big check

00:14:48.900 that comes with signing

00:14:50.140 these deals.

00:14:51.400 With Winnipeg,

00:14:52.320 I believe it was

00:14:52.860 a $2 million deal.

00:14:54.620 Yes.

00:14:54.980 That our taxpayers' dollars

00:14:57.080 are going

00:14:57.940 to these municipalities.

00:14:59.980 And of course,

00:15:00.400 everybody needs some money

00:15:01.360 for infrastructure,

00:15:02.440 for their police budgets,

00:15:03.820 for everything.

00:15:04.640 So they're desperate.

00:15:05.400 And Gary knows this.

00:15:06.680 And he's, you know,

00:15:07.860 he's very skilled at,

00:15:09.620 you know,

00:15:10.760 also attaching

00:15:11.780 future infrastructure promises

00:15:13.640 and funding

00:15:14.320 to these things.

00:15:16.260 So yes,

00:15:16.940 we will absolutely

00:15:17.700 be dealing with,

00:15:19.040 excuse me,

00:15:19.820 with Winnipeg.

00:15:20.800 Sorry,

00:15:21.080 I'm worse from cheering

00:15:22.220 last night.

00:15:23.480 Yeah,

00:15:23.900 and all the cheering.

00:15:25.800 We will absolutely

00:15:26.800 be going to Winnipeg

00:15:28.060 and doing something there.

00:15:29.240 I, you know,

00:15:29.860 I don't know

00:15:30.520 that there's any way

00:15:31.500 they can turn back the clock.

00:15:33.400 But of course,

00:15:34.220 in every other munace,

00:15:35.240 municipality in the country,

00:15:36.820 the important thing is

00:15:38.020 to get out in front of it

00:15:39.040 and find out

00:15:39.780 if your council's

00:15:41.140 talking about it.

00:15:42.160 And if they are,

00:15:43.320 put some real valid

00:15:44.580 information in front of them.

00:15:45.880 Because at the end of the day,

00:15:47.580 these people can't be

00:15:48.280 experts on everything.

00:15:49.260 I mean,

00:15:49.480 they should be worried

00:15:50.520 about picking up your garbage

00:15:51.940 and worrying about roads

00:15:53.020 and things that municipalities

00:15:54.180 do really well.

00:15:55.460 They shouldn't be worrying

00:15:56.280 about federal,

00:15:57.160 liberal,

00:15:58.060 gun control attacks

00:15:59.620 on law-abiding citizens.

00:16:01.240 So they don't have

00:16:02.380 the information they need.

00:16:03.460 And it's your job

00:16:04.220 as a gun owner.

00:16:05.080 We don't have the luxury

00:16:05.960 of sitting back

00:16:06.540 and doing nothing.

00:16:07.360 So, you know,

00:16:08.560 my motto is

00:16:09.620 be everywhere,

00:16:10.680 do everything,

00:16:11.900 just keep fighting.

00:16:13.000 And we see that

00:16:13.880 it is failing everywhere.

00:16:15.100 It's a mess.

00:16:15.620 It can't be done in Alberta.

00:16:20.020 Again, we were talking

00:16:20.620 about this before

00:16:21.180 we started rolling.

00:16:21.940 For a couple of

00:16:22.520 different reasons.

00:16:23.360 The magical policy resolutions

00:16:27.000 that passed at the UCP AGM,

00:16:29.340 which enforced our right

00:16:31.360 to firearms ownership,

00:16:32.360 but also our right

00:16:33.160 to self-defense.

00:16:34.940 But also,

00:16:35.840 about a year ago,

00:16:37.200 the feds tried to strike

00:16:38.340 these weird deals

00:16:39.560 with the progressive

00:16:40.560 big city mayors

00:16:41.760 on infrastructure stuff.

00:16:43.720 And it basically tied

00:16:45.340 infrastructure spending

00:16:46.480 to green targets

00:16:47.760 and Calgary tried to do it.

00:16:49.760 I think Edmonton

00:16:50.520 sort of got a wild hair

00:16:52.160 and thought that

00:16:52.620 they might do it.

00:16:53.360 And the province

00:16:53.880 stepped in and said,

00:16:54.780 you exist as a municipality

00:16:56.760 only at the pleasure

00:16:57.820 of the province

00:16:58.400 and we will dissolve you

00:16:59.460 if you go around us

00:17:01.480 and strike deals

00:17:02.160 with the feds.

00:17:02.680 So we're lucky here

00:17:04.460 that we're a little bit

00:17:06.400 more insulated

00:17:07.280 from the craziness.

00:17:09.360 But I wanted to talk

00:17:10.940 to you about,

00:17:11.660 because I haven't talked

00:17:12.260 to you since,

00:17:13.460 the UCP AGM.

00:17:17.240 What a victory

00:17:18.260 that is for firearms owners

00:17:19.660 to have somebody

00:17:20.160 like Danielle Smith

00:17:20.900 reinforcing our rights.

00:17:23.100 Well, and not just

00:17:23.700 firearms owners,

00:17:24.440 but all Albertans.

00:17:25.800 Like imagine a premier

00:17:27.260 who loves her people

00:17:28.440 so much

00:17:29.240 that she would

00:17:31.040 implement things

00:17:32.240 to protect you

00:17:33.640 from violent

00:17:34.640 repeat offenders

00:17:35.420 who want to kick

00:17:36.020 in your door,

00:17:37.160 steal your stuff,

00:17:38.080 hurt you,

00:17:38.740 worse, hurt your kids,

00:17:40.360 do God knows what to you.

00:17:42.100 Like imagine having some,

00:17:43.900 well, I guess you can imagine.

00:17:45.420 But here in Ontario,

00:17:46.360 I can't imagine

00:17:47.460 having a leader,

00:17:48.780 a premier,

00:17:49.400 who loves me so much

00:17:50.660 that she would

00:17:51.600 stick her neck out like that.

00:17:53.280 I just, you know,

00:17:54.460 it's the rest of us

00:17:55.780 sitting across Canada

00:17:56.920 are looking at that

00:17:57.920 with envy.

00:17:58.400 I mean, nobody

00:17:59.600 should be made

00:18:00.360 to be a victim

00:18:01.320 in their castle, right?

00:18:03.360 So, yeah, I just,

00:18:05.360 Alberta understands

00:18:06.460 freedom at a whole

00:18:07.180 different level

00:18:07.720 than the rest of the country

00:18:08.760 for sure.

00:18:09.700 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:10.640 I mean, I was in the room

00:18:11.940 when she announced that

00:18:12.900 and the,

00:18:14.480 I think that was really

00:18:15.740 just the loudest cheer

00:18:17.000 that came out of the crowd

00:18:19.000 and there were a lot of cheers

00:18:20.280 in that speech

00:18:20.940 that she gave.

00:18:21.560 It was a very red meat

00:18:22.620 conservative speech.

00:18:23.760 She was hitting like

00:18:24.580 all the things that,

00:18:25.720 you know,

00:18:26.000 conservatives care about.

00:18:27.100 But when she talked

00:18:28.020 about firearms rights

00:18:29.080 and our ability

00:18:29.980 to defend our own lives

00:18:31.200 and the lives of our families

00:18:32.080 inside of our own homes

00:18:33.420 without having to worry

00:18:34.640 about whether or not

00:18:35.420 you're going to jail for it.

00:18:37.280 Right.

00:18:37.900 Just enormous,

00:18:39.120 enormous cheers.

00:18:40.140 I'm announcing today

00:18:41.220 that next week

00:18:42.140 our UCP government

00:18:43.280 will be introducing

00:18:44.220 a new motion

00:18:45.400 under the Alberta Sovereignty

00:18:46.880 Within a United Canada Act

00:18:48.680 that will,

00:18:50.180 if passed in the legislature,

00:18:52.500 instruct all provincial entities,

00:18:54.340 including our municipalities

00:18:55.560 and law enforcement agencies,

00:18:57.400 to refuse to enforce

00:18:58.860 or prosecute

00:18:59.960 under the federal gun seizure program.

00:19:09.460 Now,

00:19:10.140 the Sovereignty Act motion

00:19:11.320 will also make it clear

00:19:12.600 that these agencies

00:19:14.040 will not enforce

00:19:15.220 or prosecute Albertans

00:19:16.880 defending their homes

00:19:17.960 and families

00:19:18.680 from intruders.

00:19:24.700 This shouldn't even be

00:19:26.240 a controversial topic.

00:19:27.440 Right.

00:19:27.860 The fact that it is

00:19:28.860 kind of shows

00:19:29.640 how far weird

00:19:30.520 we've gone as a country.

00:19:32.140 I mean,

00:19:32.400 your most basic

00:19:33.820 human right

00:19:35.820 is to protect your life

00:19:38.140 and the life

00:19:38.620 of your family

00:19:39.620 and your children.

00:19:40.700 Like,

00:19:41.140 it should not be

00:19:42.040 a controversial issue at all.

00:19:44.360 I want to talk about

00:19:45.300 what's happening

00:19:45.860 in Saskatchewan

00:19:47.060 because while we were

00:19:48.340 making those announcements

00:19:49.120 in Alberta,

00:19:49.740 Saskatchewan was making

00:19:50.720 announcements of their own

00:19:52.240 and I love Saskatchewan's

00:19:53.620 approach to what they're doing.

00:19:55.340 You know,

00:19:56.020 if the feds think

00:19:56.980 they're going to grab your guns,

00:19:58.260 well,

00:19:58.400 we're going to license

00:19:59.140 the people who are

00:20:00.040 going to grab them,

00:20:01.000 but also we're not

00:20:02.240 going to fund the agency

00:20:03.420 that does the licensing,

00:20:05.080 which is kind of cheeky

00:20:06.580 and perfectly Scott Moe,

00:20:07.860 but they're doing

00:20:08.320 something else.

00:20:08.840 So tell us about that.

00:20:10.280 Yeah,

00:20:10.440 that's right.

00:20:11.000 So,

00:20:11.480 you know,

00:20:12.500 eventually,

00:20:13.540 like this is the problem

00:20:14.680 with the,

00:20:15.780 well,

00:20:16.000 there's not a problem,

00:20:16.800 but this is the difficulty

00:20:17.660 with the Alberta

00:20:18.320 and Saskatchewan models

00:20:19.740 is not allowing

00:20:20.900 any confiscations there,

00:20:22.080 which is great

00:20:22.640 and protects you

00:20:23.260 in the meantime

00:20:23.740 because we have

00:20:25.100 that protection

00:20:25.680 of the amnesty.

00:20:27.100 But of course,

00:20:28.300 that's at the pleasure

00:20:29.520 of the Liberal government,

00:20:30.760 which is terrifying.

00:20:31.960 So someday

00:20:32.720 that will either run out

00:20:34.560 or they'll cancel it

00:20:35.580 or whatnot

00:20:36.120 and unfortunately

00:20:37.440 the protections

00:20:38.620 that Alberta

00:20:39.720 and Saskatchewan

00:20:40.380 have in place

00:20:41.020 don't actually protect you

00:20:42.400 from being criminally charged.

00:20:44.260 So Saskatchewan

00:20:45.060 has done a couple of things.

00:20:47.420 Number one,

00:20:48.360 they've also indicated

00:20:49.860 to their law enforcement

00:20:50.760 that they would be

00:20:51.780 recommending not

00:20:52.900 to charge gun owners

00:20:54.200 for possession

00:20:54.860 of those firearms.

00:20:56.420 But if you're worried

00:20:57.680 about that,

00:20:58.380 you know,

00:20:58.680 people with previously

00:21:00.120 restricted firearms

00:21:01.020 like AR-15s,

00:21:02.280 they know you've got them,

00:21:03.540 they know you're,

00:21:04.180 they're in your house

00:21:05.080 and if they come there,

00:21:07.080 you will be charged

00:21:08.140 with possession,

00:21:09.320 illegal possession

00:21:10.240 of a prohibited device,

00:21:11.640 which comes with

00:21:12.200 a very lengthy jail term.

00:21:14.460 So what Saskatchewan

00:21:15.220 is saying is,

00:21:15.920 look,

00:21:16.220 we don't want you

00:21:16.920 to get arrested

00:21:17.460 for what's in your house

00:21:18.580 that you've owned legally

00:21:19.800 and without issue

00:21:20.600 for decades or generations.

00:21:22.360 So we'll store them for you.

00:21:25.120 Safe,

00:21:25.720 temporary legal storage.

00:21:26.940 And I know some people

00:21:27.660 are like,

00:21:28.060 wait,

00:21:28.560 does this mean

00:21:29.700 to prevent the feds

00:21:30.700 from stealing my gun

00:21:31.460 and Saskatchewan will?

00:21:32.380 No, no.

00:21:33.100 It's temporary safe storage

00:21:35.080 so that you are not

00:21:36.780 in possession

00:21:37.540 of those firearms.

00:21:39.320 And that's,

00:21:40.240 it's a stopgap measure.

00:21:41.520 It can't last forever.

00:21:43.160 But I think,

00:21:43.960 you know,

00:21:44.480 we've been,

00:21:45.640 between the leaked audio,

00:21:47.340 the return strikes

00:21:51.000 from Alberta

00:21:51.640 and Saskatchewan,

00:21:52.720 these municipal councils

00:21:53.880 going this way,

00:21:54.860 we are blowing

00:21:55.560 50 cal-sized holes

00:21:57.340 in the side

00:21:58.340 of this gun ban

00:21:59.180 and it is eventually

00:22:01.080 it has to fail.

00:22:02.980 They promised

00:22:03.820 they would be

00:22:04.460 rolling it out nationwide

00:22:05.900 by the end of the year.

00:22:07.020 That's in three weeks.

00:22:08.480 So,

00:22:09.000 I don't know about you

00:22:10.740 but I know a little bit

00:22:12.000 about logistics

00:22:12.720 and picking up

00:22:13.800 about 2 million guns

00:22:15.020 across the country

00:22:16.500 the size of Canada

00:22:17.940 in the next three weeks

00:22:19.360 is not going to happen.

00:22:20.940 So,

00:22:21.860 yeah.

00:22:22.400 And yet,

00:22:23.540 they seem hell-bent

00:22:24.780 on proceeding.

00:22:25.840 Like,

00:22:26.000 they're missing

00:22:26.360 all their targets.

00:22:27.200 They don't even know

00:22:27.740 how many firearms

00:22:28.380 are out there.

00:22:29.000 They're musing about

00:22:30.500 adding more firearms

00:22:31.480 to the list

00:22:32.180 and yet,

00:22:35.240 they just keep talking

00:22:37.380 about how this needs

00:22:38.340 to be done

00:22:39.060 five and a half years out.

00:22:42.300 Yeah.

00:22:43.120 So dangerous

00:22:44.160 that we've had them

00:22:45.040 in our possession

00:22:45.560 for five and a half years.

00:22:46.860 why are they so hell-bent

00:22:50.040 on doing this?

00:22:51.620 Well,

00:22:51.780 the minister was pretty clear

00:22:52.960 in that leaked audio

00:22:54.140 that I leaked out

00:22:55.360 on behalf

00:22:56.640 of his constituent

00:22:58.080 that why they're doing this

00:23:00.360 is to appease Quebec.

00:23:01.660 And,

00:23:01.920 you know,

00:23:02.320 I'm not trying to throw shade

00:23:03.500 at our friends in Quebec.

00:23:04.980 There's lots of gun owners

00:23:05.920 and hunters

00:23:06.940 and friends

00:23:07.600 over there in Quebec

00:23:08.640 but it's their government

00:23:10.400 and most importantly,

00:23:11.700 you have to remember

00:23:12.600 the vote

00:23:13.180 in the last election.

00:23:14.560 They added somebody

00:23:15.200 very important

00:23:15.920 to their cabinet

00:23:16.860 and that is

00:23:18.760 Natalie Provost

00:23:19.500 who,

00:23:20.520 of course,

00:23:20.860 is the leader

00:23:21.320 of the anti-gun lobby.

00:23:22.540 So,

00:23:23.100 it is,

00:23:23.480 she's made it her life

00:23:24.440 work and her mission

00:23:25.600 out of the horror

00:23:27.520 of the tragedy

00:23:28.580 that she survived

00:23:29.640 to attack millions

00:23:30.840 of good people

00:23:31.440 who had nothing

00:23:31.920 to do with it.

00:23:32.720 I had a guy reach out

00:23:33.420 to me the other day,

00:23:34.680 23-year-old gun owner

00:23:35.820 and he said,

00:23:36.960 I don't understand

00:23:37.660 why they're going

00:23:38.220 to take my things

00:23:39.160 for what happened then.

00:23:40.300 I wasn't even alive yet.

00:23:43.020 Right.

00:23:43.580 And I'm like,

00:23:44.420 that's,

00:23:45.040 you know,

00:23:45.520 he's right.

00:23:46.560 Why are millions

00:23:47.440 of people being punished

00:23:48.480 for the crimes

00:23:49.160 of one madman?

00:23:50.200 So,

00:23:51.460 yeah,

00:23:51.900 I eventually,

00:23:53.440 I think the prime minister

00:23:55.080 is going to have

00:23:55.640 to take a look at

00:23:56.400 when you've got provinces,

00:23:58.340 all these councils,

00:23:59.660 everybody stacking up

00:24:00.800 against you

00:24:01.500 and the only person

00:24:03.000 running around

00:24:03.540 lobbying for it

00:24:04.420 and cheering for it

00:24:05.360 is one caucus member.

00:24:08.160 I think eventually

00:24:08.840 he's going to have

00:24:09.860 locked away the pros

00:24:10.760 and the cons

00:24:11.360 and just abandoned

00:24:12.640 the program entirely.

00:24:14.520 I think so too.

00:24:15.520 I think outside

00:24:17.040 of the property rights issue,

00:24:19.140 the scapegoating,

00:24:19.860 the innocent issue,

00:24:22.400 the allocation

00:24:24.420 of resources

00:24:25.420 directed at the innocent

00:24:27.080 versus criminals issue,

00:24:29.780 I think it's just going

00:24:31.280 to become

00:24:31.980 just a price tag issue.

00:24:36.900 Really,

00:24:37.140 like I don't,

00:24:37.640 we can't afford this.

00:24:39.140 the money's not there,

00:24:40.860 although I shouldn't

00:24:41.600 give them ideas

00:24:42.200 because they just seem

00:24:42.800 to always invent money

00:24:43.880 and debt.

00:24:44.700 But,

00:24:44.880 you know,

00:24:45.440 in a time where

00:24:46.560 they're supposed to be

00:24:47.660 exercising fiscal restraint,

00:24:49.320 we've got a banker

00:24:50.080 at the head of the government,

00:24:52.080 this is an,

00:24:52.760 it feels like

00:24:54.280 just a fiscal impossibility

00:24:55.860 to pull this thing off too.

00:24:57.200 Yeah.

00:24:58.580 Well,

00:24:58.800 it's fiscally impossible

00:24:59.920 as well as logistically.

00:25:01.720 I mean,

00:25:02.020 sure.

00:25:02.420 You know,

00:25:02.720 I think about

00:25:03.480 just what's in my own

00:25:05.420 personal home

00:25:06.260 that's been banned

00:25:07.880 and what that looks like

00:25:09.300 physically

00:25:09.720 and then magnify that

00:25:11.660 by millions,

00:25:13.300 right?

00:25:13.660 It's just,

00:25:14.380 it is logistically impossible

00:25:16.100 and it's really hard

00:25:18.020 when you don't have

00:25:19.140 anyone to help you

00:25:19.920 and when you've got

00:25:20.840 the provinces

00:25:22.440 and the municipalities

00:25:23.540 stacking up saying,

00:25:24.600 forget it.

00:25:25.600 We want nothing to do

00:25:26.640 with your program.

00:25:27.500 If you want to do it,

00:25:28.300 you figure it out.

00:25:29.320 I mean,

00:25:29.540 what are they going to do?

00:25:30.360 Send liberal MPs

00:25:31.480 to knock on our doors?

00:25:32.920 It's,

00:25:33.320 it's impossible.

00:25:34.300 It's not going to happen.

00:25:35.380 I've said that

00:25:35.960 since the beginning

00:25:37.120 and I think

00:25:38.340 the political capital

00:25:40.640 that they were getting

00:25:41.940 out of this,

00:25:42.620 I think they've

00:25:43.660 rung that sponge dry.

00:25:45.460 You know,

00:25:46.080 when I'm in

00:25:46.740 Facebook mommy groups

00:25:47.980 and,

00:25:48.380 you know,

00:25:48.980 places that normies hang out

00:25:50.520 and see what the average

00:25:52.240 Canadian who doesn't own guns,

00:25:53.820 what they're saying

00:25:54.360 about this five years ago,

00:25:55.440 they were cheering for it

00:25:56.320 and now they are

00:25:57.420 totally against it.

00:25:58.340 In fact,

00:25:58.780 they're asking where

00:25:59.720 they can get a firearms course.

00:26:01.440 So, you know,

00:26:02.480 I think,

00:26:03.200 I think the well is dry

00:26:04.940 for the liberals on this

00:26:06.180 and it's just a matter

00:26:07.200 of time before

00:26:08.020 the prime minister

00:26:09.140 is going to have to

00:26:10.020 give in and admit

00:26:12.000 defeat on this

00:26:12.840 and focus his time,

00:26:14.400 resources and efforts

00:26:15.300 on crime violence,

00:26:17.360 gun smuggling

00:26:17.840 and repeat violent offenders.

00:26:20.240 Yeah, you know,

00:26:20.820 I hope you're right.

00:26:21.660 Although we see before us

00:26:23.220 all the things

00:26:23.920 the liberals

00:26:24.420 are willing to do

00:26:25.360 to appease Quebec,

00:26:26.480 including the restrictions

00:26:28.640 on religious freedom

00:26:29.720 in Bill C-9

00:26:30.680 and then the MOU

00:26:31.740 that isn't really an MOU

00:26:34.060 with regard to Alberta pipelines.

00:26:37.200 Like,

00:26:37.260 they voted down

00:26:38.100 a pipeline motion

00:26:40.000 taken directly

00:26:41.360 from the language

00:26:42.460 of the MOU last night.

00:26:44.560 Like,

00:26:44.720 they'll do anything

00:26:45.720 to not lose

00:26:46.840 a single vote

00:26:47.760 in Quebec.

00:26:48.260 but my concern

00:26:50.060 is that,

00:26:51.060 and I don't know

00:26:51.540 if it's so much

00:26:52.160 a concern anymore

00:26:53.000 or a fantasy,

00:26:54.600 but this is,

00:26:56.360 this sort of stuff

00:26:57.680 really drives

00:26:58.960 a fracture

00:26:59.700 in Confederation.

00:27:01.680 And as much as,

00:27:02.840 you know,

00:27:03.060 there are people like me

00:27:03.860 who are like,

00:27:04.340 dream of being free.

00:27:05.960 I'm not sure

00:27:06.820 Prime Minister Mark Carney

00:27:08.060 wants to be

00:27:08.700 the Prime Minister

00:27:09.320 that oversees

00:27:10.400 the end of Confederation.

00:27:11.640 No,

00:27:13.320 and I mean,

00:27:13.980 he promised to kind of,

00:27:15.720 you know,

00:27:16.020 you think back

00:27:16.940 to when he won the election

00:27:18.140 by a slim margin,

00:27:20.020 but he won nonetheless.

00:27:21.580 And he talked about

00:27:22.780 how it was time

00:27:23.740 to end the division,

00:27:24.780 you know,

00:27:24.960 kind of these

00:27:25.480 Trudeau era policies

00:27:26.640 and how divided

00:27:28.680 we had become

00:27:29.420 as a country

00:27:30.060 and that regardless

00:27:31.780 of whether you voted

00:27:32.620 for him or not,

00:27:33.420 he was going to be

00:27:34.120 a leader for everyone.

00:27:35.620 And,

00:27:36.160 you know,

00:27:36.480 everyone had a voice

00:27:37.280 at the table so far

00:27:38.240 that hasn't materialized.

00:27:40.540 But I think

00:27:41.200 he's going to be forced

00:27:41.940 into these situations

00:27:42.980 because they,

00:27:45.060 you know,

00:27:46.500 Trudeau made a lot

00:27:47.380 of hefty promises

00:27:48.240 and pretty much failed

00:27:49.500 on every one of them.

00:27:50.620 So I don't envy Carney

00:27:52.060 being in the position

00:27:52.860 to try and clean it up.

00:27:54.800 I just hope that

00:27:56.120 he comes to his senses

00:27:57.100 sooner rather than later

00:27:58.420 before it's too late.

00:28:01.660 I know that you have

00:28:02.980 to sort of skedaddle

00:28:04.240 very soon,

00:28:04.980 but I want to talk

00:28:06.340 about UConn.

00:28:07.220 Now,

00:28:07.380 the election of Curry Dixon

00:28:08.500 was very exciting.

00:28:09.700 It was very exciting

00:28:10.560 because I knew,

00:28:12.020 like I've been paying

00:28:12.800 attention to Curry Dixon

00:28:13.740 since before the Liberals

00:28:15.220 were in power

00:28:15.720 when he was

00:28:16.260 in the previous

00:28:17.780 Premier's cabinet

00:28:19.100 up there.

00:28:20.320 And when he won,

00:28:22.420 I was like,

00:28:23.060 this is,

00:28:23.720 he's joining Alberta.

00:28:25.380 Yeah.

00:28:25.640 This is it.

00:28:26.180 He's joining Alberta.

00:28:27.120 And it makes perfect sense.

00:28:29.060 You know,

00:28:29.660 it's a very,

00:28:30.480 very strong gun culture

00:28:32.140 up there.

00:28:32.660 People are subsistence hunters.

00:28:35.400 Lots of hunting guides

00:28:36.680 up there.

00:28:37.100 And so it just seemed

00:28:38.540 unfathomable to me

00:28:39.940 that the Liberal government

00:28:41.060 up there in collusion

00:28:42.340 with the NDP

00:28:43.300 because they had a coalition

00:28:44.440 government up there,

00:28:46.460 that they were supportive

00:28:47.520 of the Liberals' plans

00:28:49.960 to snatch guns

00:28:51.140 from law-abiding UConners.

00:28:52.560 But that block

00:28:55.640 of provinces

00:28:56.720 and now territories

00:28:57.880 supporting,

00:28:59.500 you know,

00:29:00.080 fighting back

00:29:00.720 against the gun grab,

00:29:01.520 it just keeps growing.

00:29:03.220 Yeah,

00:29:03.400 it just keeps growing.

00:29:04.380 And I mean,

00:29:04.620 it's the right thing to do.

00:29:06.220 To think that

00:29:07.520 any government

00:29:08.460 would look at targeting

00:29:10.780 the innocent people

00:29:12.340 within their population

00:29:13.460 while being soft

00:29:15.080 on the violent,

00:29:17.220 the criminals,

00:29:18.240 it's insane to me.

00:29:20.400 So I know a lot of work

00:29:21.720 went into,

00:29:22.820 you know,

00:29:24.080 making sure that these policies

00:29:25.200 were front and center.

00:29:26.740 You're right,

00:29:27.040 Kerry Dixon is a total

00:29:28.200 champion of freedom.

00:29:30.160 Our friends,

00:29:31.060 UConn Strong

00:29:31.740 and Donovan Dewis

00:29:33.160 at CATF,

00:29:34.220 those guys put in

00:29:35.240 a lot of work

00:29:36.020 and they're right there

00:29:37.580 beside him

00:29:38.140 making sure that

00:29:39.060 they get this right

00:29:40.520 and that's really important.

00:29:42.320 And that's what I mean.

00:29:43.160 This,

00:29:43.920 you know,

00:29:44.400 citizen politics

00:29:45.180 is,

00:29:47.000 you know,

00:29:47.440 it's vital,

00:29:48.300 it's important

00:29:49.040 and it works

00:29:50.040 and it's being proven

00:29:51.300 over and over again.

00:29:52.660 So wherever you are

00:29:54.260 in Canada

00:29:54.740 listening to this,

00:29:55.940 whatever your jurisdiction,

00:29:57.620 you know,

00:29:58.280 you don't have the luxury

00:29:59.360 of just sitting at home

00:30:00.300 and hoping someone else

00:30:01.120 is doing that work for you.

00:30:02.380 And the people,

00:30:03.220 those of us running around

00:30:04.100 all over the place,

00:30:05.360 you know,

00:30:06.040 trying to spread ourselves out,

00:30:07.320 trying to get everything done,

00:30:08.500 we need your help, right?

00:30:09.720 So it's really important

00:30:12.160 and really valuable

00:30:13.560 that people are taking

00:30:14.920 interest in politics

00:30:17.180 and standing up

00:30:17.920 for what they think is right.

00:30:19.080 We have to remind these people

00:30:20.800 they're not,

00:30:21.840 they're not kings.

00:30:23.360 You know,

00:30:23.620 there are no kings in this.

00:30:24.800 These people work for us.

00:30:26.300 They are servants

00:30:26.980 of the public.

00:30:28.080 They work for us

00:30:28.780 and it's time

00:30:29.520 they're reminded of that.

00:30:31.680 Yeah,

00:30:31.940 you know,

00:30:32.520 we can't necessarily

00:30:33.920 vote our way out of this.

00:30:35.060 We tried.

00:30:36.460 We tried.

00:30:37.380 Not all that,

00:30:37.900 not all that long ago.

00:30:40.360 We have to get involved.

00:30:42.440 It's not just,

00:30:43.580 look,

00:30:44.060 you,

00:30:44.460 you guys are doing great work,

00:30:46.380 but the gun lobby

00:30:47.980 is bigger

00:30:48.600 than Tracy and Rod.

00:30:50.880 Oh yeah.

00:30:51.600 It's all of us,

00:30:52.820 right?

00:30:53.040 Like it's all of us.

00:30:54.040 We have to show up

00:30:54.840 at these things

00:30:55.460 because it's happening to us.

00:30:57.400 You guys are the tip

00:30:58.420 of the spear.

00:30:59.060 You guys have the connections,

00:31:00.920 but it doesn't happen

00:31:02.400 without the rest of us

00:31:03.380 putting some work into.

00:31:05.180 Yeah,

00:31:05.640 and every single win

00:31:06.720 we've had along the way

00:31:07.800 is because of

00:31:08.540 boots on the ground.

00:31:09.820 You know,

00:31:10.040 it's not me

00:31:10.680 initiating contact

00:31:12.100 with these city councils

00:31:14.120 or with the premiers.

00:31:15.720 It's people

00:31:16.860 reaching out

00:31:17.400 and saying,

00:31:17.820 hey,

00:31:18.120 these are the things

00:31:18.980 I want.

00:31:19.400 These are the things

00:31:19.980 that are important to me.

00:31:21.840 This is not fair

00:31:23.100 what's going on

00:31:23.780 and you need

00:31:24.380 to stand up for me.

00:31:25.900 And the politicians

00:31:27.600 number one priority

00:31:28.880 is always to stay in power.

00:31:31.140 So they'll sway

00:31:32.640 with whatever looks like

00:31:34.440 it'll keep them in power.

00:31:35.940 So that's why

00:31:36.660 it's really important

00:31:37.520 for our voices

00:31:38.820 to be way louder.

00:31:39.960 And the key

00:31:40.740 to winning any of this

00:31:41.780 is overwhelming everything.

00:31:43.880 Overwhelm

00:31:44.220 every city council

00:31:45.160 meeting where

00:31:46.160 they're talking about

00:31:46.960 about it.

00:31:48.180 Overwhelm

00:31:48.940 AGMs

00:31:50.720 for your provincial

00:31:51.840 you know,

00:31:53.360 governments.

00:31:54.360 You know,

00:31:54.980 just show up

00:31:55.640 to these things

00:31:56.280 in huge numbers,

00:31:57.560 organize and overwhelm them

00:31:58.920 and send lots of letters.

00:32:00.720 I know people think

00:32:01.680 it doesn't work.

00:32:02.260 It does

00:32:02.620 because the anti

00:32:04.180 the anti-gunners,

00:32:05.380 they've just got

00:32:06.000 the ear of the liberals.

00:32:07.000 There has never been

00:32:08.040 a single protester

00:32:09.380 at any of this stuff

00:32:11.340 that is in favor of it.

00:32:13.060 It's only us

00:32:14.260 opposing it.

00:32:15.440 So we just have

00:32:16.840 to be louder

00:32:17.340 than they are

00:32:18.000 and just keep going.

00:32:20.040 And that brings me

00:32:21.340 to my next question

00:32:22.160 before I let you go.

00:32:23.180 How do people

00:32:23.700 get involved

00:32:24.440 in the CCFR?

00:32:26.320 Because,

00:32:27.620 I mean,

00:32:28.180 frankly,

00:32:29.940 you're a lobby group

00:32:31.340 but you're an advocacy group

00:32:33.220 and you are up

00:32:34.160 against people

00:32:35.160 who have

00:32:36.160 the ear

00:32:37.340 of the government

00:32:38.020 every step of the way.

00:32:39.920 And so you need

00:32:41.740 the support,

00:32:42.320 you need the help,

00:32:43.200 you need the war chest

00:32:44.700 and you need people

00:32:46.820 to sort of wear

00:32:48.780 their advocacy

00:32:49.780 on their sleeves,

00:32:50.980 on their chest,

00:32:51.640 wherever.

00:32:52.700 Right.

00:32:53.120 Because you want

00:32:53.920 to show the liberals

00:32:54.500 that it's not

00:32:56.900 a small statistical

00:32:58.260 rounding error

00:32:59.120 of people

00:32:59.640 who care about

00:33:00.300 these things.

00:33:01.520 Yeah.

00:33:02.000 Well,

00:33:02.400 the number one thing

00:33:03.360 you can do

00:33:03.800 to help us

00:33:04.580 is become a member

00:33:05.380 because what that does,

00:33:06.820 it's not just,

00:33:07.380 it's 40 bucks

00:33:08.060 for an entire year.

00:33:09.320 It's not the 40 bucks,

00:33:10.340 it's the ability

00:33:11.520 to add

00:33:12.280 to the size

00:33:13.520 of our group.

00:33:14.080 And we are by far

00:33:15.120 the biggest group

00:33:15.900 in the country,

00:33:16.860 the biggest stakeholder

00:33:17.620 on this issue.

00:33:18.560 So the bigger we get,

00:33:19.680 the more influential

00:33:20.320 we are.

00:33:21.200 But at the same time,

00:33:22.440 we also need help.

00:33:23.400 We need help

00:33:24.040 at events,

00:33:24.960 we need help

00:33:25.460 at gun shows,

00:33:26.380 we need help

00:33:27.180 on letter writing campaigns.

00:33:29.540 Reach out to us

00:33:30.160 at volunteer

00:33:30.820 at ccfr.ca

00:33:32.300 and help us out.

00:33:34.460 There's no minimum

00:33:35.300 requirement

00:33:36.040 or any,

00:33:36.860 you know,

00:33:37.180 there's no

00:33:37.840 chains around your neck.

00:33:39.200 It's whatever you can do,

00:33:40.200 however much

00:33:40.800 or little

00:33:41.240 of your time

00:33:42.160 you can give.

00:33:43.100 We need all the help

00:33:44.220 we can get.

00:33:45.160 Get involved

00:33:45.980 in your local politics

00:33:47.560 at every single level.

00:33:49.860 And of course,

00:33:50.720 there's always good deals

00:33:51.620 on the CCFR stories.

00:33:53.240 You can find us

00:33:53.980 at ccfr.ca.

00:33:56.540 Some of the best merch

00:33:57.760 in the country.

00:33:58.860 I wish our merch store

00:33:59.840 was as nice as yours

00:34:00.820 sometimes.

00:34:01.860 I do.

00:34:02.780 I appreciate that.

00:34:04.000 Yeah.

00:34:05.140 Thanks, Tracy.

00:34:06.280 I'll let you skedaddle.

00:34:07.240 I know that you just

00:34:08.240 had a whirlwind trip

00:34:09.460 in Charlottetown

00:34:10.720 and you're flying high

00:34:11.900 on a big victory,

00:34:13.020 but I know you have

00:34:13.460 a flight to catch.

00:34:14.380 Thank you so much

00:34:14.980 for jumping on the show

00:34:15.720 with me today

00:34:16.300 and just bringing us

00:34:17.180 up to speed

00:34:17.640 and letting us know

00:34:18.300 what we can do

00:34:19.500 to help you fight

00:34:21.700 for us.

00:34:23.200 Thanks, Sheila.

00:34:23.800 I always appreciate

00:34:24.660 the opportunity.

00:34:25.320 The third segment of the show

00:34:44.160 always belongs to you

00:34:45.460 because without you

00:34:46.160 there is no rebel news.

00:34:47.420 So if I don't stop

00:34:49.600 and ask you what you think

00:34:50.920 about our work,

00:34:51.740 then I mean,

00:34:53.520 we just don't exist.

00:34:54.720 So I give out

00:34:56.060 my email address right now.

00:34:57.440 If you've got viewer feedback

00:34:58.360 on the show

00:34:59.320 or anything that I do

00:35:00.840 around here,

00:35:02.300 it's Sheila at rebelnews.com.

00:35:04.640 Put gun show letters

00:35:06.180 in the subject line

00:35:07.120 so I know why

00:35:07.880 you're emailing me

00:35:08.960 and let me have it.

00:35:10.940 Good, bad, or indifferent.

00:35:13.820 Now, that's not the only way

00:35:15.080 to get in touch with me.

00:35:15.900 I also go looking

00:35:17.020 at the comment sections

00:35:18.920 on YouTube

00:35:20.280 or on Rumble.

00:35:21.520 If you leave comments there,

00:35:23.240 it's a great way

00:35:23.840 for our content

00:35:24.800 to be higher in the algorithm

00:35:27.020 because it's more engaged with

00:35:29.440 and the algorithms like that.

00:35:31.880 So the more you interact

00:35:32.800 with our work,

00:35:33.300 the more the platforms

00:35:35.140 serve it up

00:35:35.720 in front of other people.

00:35:36.740 And I wanted to know

00:35:38.300 what you guys were saying

00:35:40.580 about my story

00:35:42.040 the other day

00:35:42.960 on the Liberal government

00:35:46.440 admitting

00:35:47.040 that they have been

00:35:49.200 deleting convoy records.

00:35:51.940 Now, we found this out

00:35:53.360 because we were appealing

00:35:55.440 the redactions

00:35:56.660 in publicly available evidence

00:35:59.400 presented

00:36:00.080 to the Public Order

00:36:02.100 Emergency Commission.

00:36:03.860 It was a briefing note

00:36:05.400 to security officials

00:36:09.900 including Brenda Luckey,

00:36:11.700 the RCMP commissioner

00:36:12.580 at the time.

00:36:13.880 And the reason it

00:36:15.180 piqued my interest

00:36:16.000 is the only thing

00:36:16.820 they left unredacted

00:36:18.360 was their admission

00:36:20.900 that they were

00:36:21.380 censoring Canadians.

00:36:22.340 So they said

00:36:22.940 unredacted,

00:36:24.680 everything else is black,

00:36:25.760 but unredacted it said,

00:36:27.740 you know,

00:36:28.000 we've been in contact

00:36:28.780 with Facebook,

00:36:30.240 Meta,

00:36:30.620 Twitter,

00:36:33.100 Microsoft,

00:36:34.400 and I think Reddit

00:36:36.160 of all places

00:36:37.620 to have convoy-related

00:36:41.660 posts pulled down

00:36:42.620 and obviously

00:36:44.380 big tech complied

00:36:45.300 because we know

00:36:45.860 during that time

00:36:46.440 a lot of people

00:36:47.240 had their social media

00:36:49.640 accounts just nuked

00:36:50.580 and they never quite knew

00:36:52.320 why,

00:36:52.660 but I think we all

00:36:53.240 kind of knew why.

00:36:55.260 And so I was appealing

00:36:56.360 those redactions

00:36:57.140 and they said,

00:36:59.100 we don't even have

00:37:01.720 those records anymore.

00:37:02.740 Like we don't have

00:37:03.540 what it used to say

00:37:04.660 because either

00:37:07.380 it'll be too much work

00:37:08.580 or the staff

00:37:11.760 have moved on.

00:37:12.500 Well,

00:37:12.780 who cares?

00:37:13.500 They still retain

00:37:14.360 their records.

00:37:14.960 They are government

00:37:15.500 employees.

00:37:16.360 Or because it was

00:37:18.720 transitory,

00:37:19.740 as in just like

00:37:21.660 post-it notes,

00:37:22.520 unimportant.

00:37:23.580 And they really leaned

00:37:24.640 on this transitory

00:37:25.660 excuse.

00:37:26.120 And I'm like,

00:37:26.720 well,

00:37:26.860 if it was transitory,

00:37:27.840 why did you redact it?

00:37:28.820 It was obviously

00:37:29.420 important enough

00:37:30.540 to redact,

00:37:33.320 like you considered

00:37:34.000 it sensitive

00:37:34.620 and important.

00:37:35.220 So now you can't

00:37:36.500 say that it's transitory.

00:37:38.000 But this is like

00:37:38.920 a catch-all excuse

00:37:39.700 that they used

00:37:40.180 to delete things.

00:37:42.380 So that's what

00:37:43.100 I caught them doing.

00:37:45.100 And,

00:37:45.460 you know,

00:37:46.400 crazy that they're

00:37:47.320 doing this

00:37:47.740 while there are

00:37:49.720 lawsuits about

00:37:50.920 the treatment of people

00:37:51.960 during the Freedom Convoy

00:37:53.120 still before the courts.

00:37:55.600 Like,

00:37:55.740 that's crazy

00:37:56.340 that the government

00:37:57.180 can just delete

00:37:58.880 evidence that is

00:38:00.060 relevant to a court

00:38:01.240 case against the government.

00:38:02.940 You know,

00:38:04.220 there's active

00:38:05.540 litigation

00:38:06.120 before the courts

00:38:08.960 related to the fact

00:38:11.520 that they

00:38:12.080 arrested people,

00:38:15.760 violated their

00:38:16.360 civil liberties

00:38:16.940 based on

00:38:18.100 the

00:38:19.540 use of the

00:38:21.180 Emergencies Act

00:38:21.820 that another court

00:38:22.780 found to be

00:38:23.440 unconstitutional.

00:38:25.200 And

00:38:25.640 they admitted it

00:38:27.300 to us,

00:38:27.920 which,

00:38:28.620 I mean,

00:38:28.940 I guess is good

00:38:29.700 for the lawyers

00:38:31.020 involved,

00:38:31.840 for sure.

00:38:33.320 At least they know

00:38:34.140 that when they go

00:38:35.200 asking for disclosure,

00:38:36.920 they're not going

00:38:37.480 to get it.

00:38:37.900 And here's why

00:38:38.420 the government

00:38:38.940 is deleting things.

00:38:41.080 So,

00:38:41.720 anyways,

00:38:42.100 I want to know

00:38:42.580 what you thought

00:38:42.920 about that

00:38:43.260 now that I've

00:38:43.880 sort of brought

00:38:44.940 you back up to speed.

00:38:46.420 Jordan Wilhelm

00:38:47.780 4774 says,

00:38:51.040 wait,

00:38:51.400 what,

00:38:51.700 the global cabal

00:38:52.640 that's trying to

00:38:53.180 enslave every man,

00:38:54.500 woman,

00:38:54.880 and child

00:38:55.180 is deleting

00:38:55.780 incriminating evidence

00:38:56.800 about themselves?

00:38:57.820 You don't say.

00:38:58.800 Yeah,

00:38:59.020 you know what,

00:38:59.760 I am not naive,

00:39:02.300 okay?

00:39:02.600 I know that

00:39:03.520 governments do this

00:39:04.360 all the time.

00:39:04.840 This is why

00:39:05.400 if I'm filing

00:39:06.660 for access to

00:39:07.320 information,

00:39:07.680 I often file

00:39:08.740 a couple of

00:39:10.000 different ways.

00:39:10.860 So I'll hit

00:39:11.660 one ministry

00:39:12.360 and then I'll hit

00:39:13.120 another ministry

00:39:13.820 that I know

00:39:14.280 the two are

00:39:14.720 communicating with.

00:39:15.840 So if they

00:39:16.680 don't have the

00:39:18.540 documents on one

00:39:19.380 side,

00:39:19.600 I might catch

00:39:19.980 it on the

00:39:20.300 other because

00:39:20.880 frequently I know

00:39:21.540 the documents

00:39:22.060 are there.

00:39:22.440 Somebody has

00:39:22.860 tipped them off

00:39:23.440 to me or

00:39:23.820 leaked them to

00:39:24.360 me and so

00:39:25.520 but I need

00:39:26.080 the full context

00:39:26.880 of the documents.

00:39:27.620 I need my own

00:39:28.200 copy and I can

00:39:31.020 sort of catch

00:39:31.560 them.

00:39:31.980 Like if I know

00:39:32.940 two ministries are

00:39:33.680 communicating with

00:39:34.420 each other or

00:39:35.080 one ministry is

00:39:35.820 communicating with

00:39:36.440 the Privy Council,

00:39:37.200 I'll hit the Privy

00:39:37.960 Council for a copy

00:39:38.960 of the documents

00:39:39.480 and I'll hit the

00:39:40.020 ministry with a

00:39:41.020 copy of the

00:39:41.480 documents.

00:39:42.160 And so sometimes

00:39:43.400 one doesn't

00:39:45.440 produce the records

00:39:46.360 but the other

00:39:48.400 one does.

00:39:50.800 I guess they're

00:39:52.640 lazy, too lazy

00:39:54.120 to cover their

00:39:54.620 tracks.

00:39:55.980 But yeah, it's

00:39:56.880 just funny to

00:39:57.580 have them admit

00:39:58.180 it.

00:39:58.760 Like it's weird.

00:39:59.280 I think that's an

00:40:00.180 interesting development

00:40:01.040 is that they

00:40:01.680 admitted it to us.

00:40:03.940 It's wild.

00:40:06.540 Dave Octo says

00:40:07.660 Canadian authorities

00:40:08.400 view themselves as

00:40:09.220 rulers who don't

00:40:09.820 have to listen to

00:40:10.460 citizens.

00:40:11.080 That is true.

00:40:12.900 Colin McClellan's

00:40:14.180 one three

00:40:15.780 six one says

00:40:17.100 I believe that

00:40:17.800 the Canadian

00:40:18.200 government under

00:40:18.860 the Liberals are

00:40:19.540 at war with the

00:40:20.180 Canadian people

00:40:20.740 except that the

00:40:21.680 Canadian people

00:40:22.320 aren't aware of

00:40:23.340 that.

00:40:24.140 It's an interesting

00:40:24.800 take but it's

00:40:25.960 probably true.

00:40:30.360 Robert E2N74

00:40:34.160 The shredders have

00:40:35.780 been running 24-7

00:40:36.760 in Ottawa since

00:40:37.520 2015.

00:40:38.220 Well, E-shredders,

00:40:40.040 right?

00:40:40.320 Just delete and

00:40:41.260 then clear the

00:40:41.780 inbox.

00:40:42.220 And, you know,

00:40:45.280 these records are

00:40:45.880 supposed to be

00:40:46.440 preserved at the

00:40:47.920 very least because

00:40:50.540 what happened was

00:40:52.520 historic.

00:40:53.940 I think the

00:40:54.680 single largest human

00:40:55.820 rights demonstration

00:40:56.520 in modern Canadian

00:40:57.460 history, the use of

00:40:59.540 a law that had

00:41:00.160 never been used

00:41:00.840 before, the fact

00:41:02.380 that the law then

00:41:03.160 was ruled illegal,

00:41:06.120 that people were

00:41:06.960 jailed, incarcerated,

00:41:08.040 protected, their

00:41:09.440 bank accounts

00:41:10.340 frozen, like

00:41:11.700 just for the

00:41:15.740 preservation of

00:41:16.520 history, the

00:41:17.360 archival preservation

00:41:18.280 of this time in

00:41:19.960 Canadian history,

00:41:20.820 those records

00:41:21.700 should have been

00:41:22.220 held on to

00:41:22.820 regardless of the

00:41:24.220 act of litigation.

00:41:26.440 But anyway,

00:41:29.180 Lawrence

00:41:29.880 Halpin 6611

00:41:32.980 says, it is

00:41:34.160 very dangerous

00:41:34.820 when you are

00:41:35.240 right and the

00:41:35.620 government is

00:41:36.060 wrong.

00:41:36.300 Yeah, you'll

00:41:37.100 end up in

00:41:37.500 jail, just

00:41:37.920 ask Tamera

00:41:38.380 Leach.

00:41:39.720 Jack Jones

00:41:40.520 X3S, the

00:41:42.760 liberal government

00:41:43.400 are allowed to

00:41:44.180 break laws with

00:41:44.760 no repercussions

00:41:45.440 or consequences

00:41:46.080 for their actions

00:41:46.840 or crimes.

00:41:48.600 Also true.

00:41:50.220 We'll do one

00:41:50.800 more.

00:41:50.980 So the

00:41:54.760 government commits

00:41:55.640 an illegal act

00:41:56.560 and nothing

00:41:57.220 happens.

00:41:58.600 Yeah, exactly.

00:42:00.600 Those records

00:42:01.480 are to be

00:42:02.260 preserved and

00:42:03.880 they are

00:42:04.180 relevant in

00:42:05.980 current court

00:42:06.800 cases.

00:42:08.780 Imagine if you

00:42:09.820 just deleted

00:42:10.400 evidence.

00:42:12.460 Would you be

00:42:13.400 held in

00:42:13.720 contempt of

00:42:14.200 court?

00:42:14.420 At the very

00:42:16.380 least?

00:42:16.820 But it's

00:42:18.760 the feds

00:42:19.360 so they can

00:42:20.120 make up

00:42:20.420 excuses for

00:42:21.100 not retaining

00:42:21.920 records relevant

00:42:23.000 to current

00:42:23.640 court cases.

00:42:28.140 When the

00:42:28.900 CRA comes

00:42:29.640 for you

00:42:30.100 and tries to

00:42:31.280 audit you,

00:42:31.720 just say your

00:42:32.140 records are

00:42:32.620 transitory.

00:42:34.700 See how that

00:42:35.440 works out.

00:42:36.660 But it's not

00:42:37.740 an excuse that

00:42:38.360 regular people

00:42:38.940 can use.

00:42:40.120 Okay, you guys,

00:42:40.880 that's the show

00:42:41.260 for today.

00:42:41.660 Thank you so

00:42:42.060 much for tuning

00:42:42.580 in.

00:42:43.020 I'll see

00:42:43.280 everybody back

00:42:43.820 here in the

00:42:44.160 same time,

00:42:44.880 in the same

00:42:45.240 place next week.

00:42:45.860 And as always,

00:42:47.160 don't let the

00:42:47.580 government tell

00:42:48.120 you that you've

00:42:48.600 had too much

00:42:49.220 to think.

Rebel News Podcast - December 11, 2025

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Charlottetown says no to the gun buyback

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