Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Conservatives need to reject climate hysteria and the hyperbolic language of the left

00:00:00.000 What happens when conservatives adopt the language of the left?

00:00:03.040 Well, they continue to lose.

00:00:04.880 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:24.060 You know, there's nothing quite as defeatist as watching

00:00:27.060 a smart conservative who doesn't believe at all

00:00:32.800 the things they're saying, using the language of the left

00:00:35.080 to make compelling arguments to other conservatives.

00:00:37.880 Let me give you an example.

00:00:40.160 When you see strong, thoughtful, bold conservative politicians

00:00:46.120 like, for example, Alberta Premier Daniel Smith

00:00:49.280 using words like carbon capture, carbon emissions,

00:00:55.300 even carbon pollution, to describe carbon dioxide,

00:01:01.900 which is plant food.

00:01:06.080 It's so disappointing because when you concede

00:01:10.180 the language of the left, you are acknowledging

00:01:12.920 the validity of the left's flawed arguments, right?

00:01:16.500 And you're also moving the battlefield of ideas

00:01:19.900 closer to your own home front.

00:01:22.180 And that's never good.

00:01:23.560 Now, joining me to discuss this problem with conservatives,

00:01:27.560 specifically as it relates to climate change,

00:01:31.180 is my friend Tom Harris from the International Climate Science Coalition

00:01:34.940 in an interview we recorded earlier.

00:01:37.600 Check it out.

00:01:38.100 So joining me now is good friend of the show,

00:01:47.980 my friend Tom Harris from the International Climate Science Coalition.

00:01:51.500 Tom, you sent me some really great articles from America Out Loud

00:01:55.100 regarding conservatives, and not even just conservatives,

00:01:59.660 but people who are climate realists,

00:02:01.820 conceding the language of the other side all the time.

00:02:06.420 And I think it is, you know,

00:02:08.100 you're moving the battleground of ideas closer to yourself

00:02:11.340 when you do these sorts of things.

00:02:13.660 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:02:15.320 Yeah, unfortunately, what's happened is,

00:02:18.260 you know, the main people doing research

00:02:20.460 into the use of language in the climate war,

00:02:23.360 and it is a war, okay?

00:02:24.780 You know, they want to destroy our major energy sources

00:02:27.300 and, you know, all over something that's generally speaking a hoax.

00:02:31.840 But the people who are doing the research in this

00:02:34.240 are all on the left, okay?

00:02:36.360 If you look at the sociologists,

00:02:37.960 you look at the psychologists, you know,

00:02:39.900 everybody who's doing research and trying to decide

00:02:42.840 what sort of language should be used to promote their cause,

00:02:46.740 they're all on the left, okay?

00:02:48.480 So what's happening is these people are deciding

00:02:51.360 that based on their polling and their research,

00:02:54.980 that in fact calling it carbon pollution,

00:02:57.300 instead of carbon dioxide, you know,

00:02:59.640 saying, you know, climate change is real,

00:03:02.260 all these kinds of nonsensical statements,

00:03:04.620 that that will help sway the debate.

00:03:08.100 And so conservatives, unfortunately,

00:03:10.060 have been duped into using the same language, okay?

00:03:13.880 And it is interesting because this is very much

00:03:16.660 like out of 1984.

00:03:18.280 You might remember in George Orwell's 1984,

00:03:21.580 there was an appendix, a 10-page appendix at the end,

00:03:24.360 in which he introduced the concept of new speak.

00:03:28.360 And there was various types of languages,

00:03:30.400 A language, B language, C language.

00:03:32.640 The B language was words that were chosen

00:03:35.460 to promote the only way they wanted you to think, okay?

00:03:40.240 They had, you know, crime think, they called it,

00:03:43.240 if you actually thought differently.

00:03:44.860 And so language type B was language that was used

00:03:49.520 to influence the thinking pattern of the population.

00:03:53.740 And, you know, it's interesting because I use something

00:03:55.420 called Ngram on the internet.

00:03:57.840 It's a Google tool that shows you the frequency

00:04:00.340 of the use of certain words.

00:04:02.560 Now, the use of the word carbon dioxide has gone down,

00:04:05.740 but the use of carbon pollution has gone through the roof, okay?

00:04:10.140 Carbon sequestration, carbon capture, carbon footprint,

00:04:13.160 you know, all that sort of thing.

00:04:14.800 And so what's happened is, sadly,

00:04:17.260 the conservatives are actually helping this come about.

00:04:20.760 And, you know, a really good example, I think,

00:04:22.900 oh, and by the way, I should just read to you

00:04:24.260 a quick quote here.

00:04:25.560 University of Florida linguist, her name is M.J. Hardman.

00:04:28.940 She just passed away, unfortunately.

00:04:31.360 This is what she said in her book,

00:04:33.440 a paper called Language and War.

00:04:36.020 She said, quote,

00:04:36.920 Language is inseparable from humanity

00:04:39.980 and follows us in all our works.

00:04:42.240 Language is the instrument with which we form thought

00:04:44.900 and feeling, mood, aspiration, will, and action.

00:04:48.160 The instrument by whose means we influence

00:04:50.980 and are influenced.

00:04:53.020 So, you know, it's interesting.

00:04:54.280 I got into Bing AI.

00:04:55.900 Have you ever tried Bing AI yet?

00:04:57.740 No, I'm scared of AI.

00:05:00.680 Well, it's interesting.

00:05:02.100 If you go to bing.com and you put in a question,

00:05:06.460 you know, like, for example,

00:05:07.420 is language important in the climate debate?

00:05:09.800 Which I asked it.

00:05:11.020 And you click on chat.

00:05:12.380 It'll actually give you a verbal answer,

00:05:14.200 which is quite fun.

00:05:15.440 And it tells us, yes, yes, it's so important.

00:05:17.820 I said, well, who's working on this issue?

00:05:19.600 Who's actually studying how to use language?

00:05:22.020 And they list all these people,

00:05:24.080 all of them, social scientists

00:05:25.460 and people in the humanities from the left.

00:05:28.040 I said, is anybody working on this

00:05:30.580 to try to understand the words to use

00:05:33.180 to convince people there is no climate crisis?

00:05:36.480 And it had nobody, like nobody's doing it.

00:05:39.860 And I said to the Bing AI,

00:05:42.400 and it was quite interesting to see,

00:05:43.760 you know, in some cases,

00:05:45.020 you can actually, it'll learn, okay?

00:05:47.360 It'll learn to change its approach.

00:05:49.460 For example, I asked it,

00:05:51.000 can you tell me a joke about Canadians?

00:05:53.220 So it told me a silly joke about Canadians.

00:05:55.620 I said the same thing about Americans, about British.

00:05:58.200 And then I said, can you tell me a silly joke

00:06:00.120 about Pakistanis?

00:06:01.760 And it said, oh no, I can't do that.

00:06:04.220 Some people might be offended, you know?

00:06:07.140 So I said to the Bing AI, I said, well,

00:06:10.140 how does that match with telling jokes

00:06:12.460 about other, you know, other nationalities?

00:06:15.120 And it sort of paused for a while.

00:06:16.800 And it kind of thought, and it said,

00:06:18.380 yeah, you have a point.

00:06:19.640 So two hours later, I got back in and asked it,

00:06:22.080 can you tell me a joke about Canadians?

00:06:23.900 And it said, oh no, I can't do that.

00:06:25.500 That would be offensive to some people.

00:06:27.220 So the Bing AI can learn,

00:06:30.940 but it doesn't learn when it comes to some topics.

00:06:34.020 It's really held down solid,

00:06:35.680 like in the case of climate change.

00:06:37.860 So I asked the Bing AI, I said,

00:06:39.680 considering how important it is

00:06:41.060 to use the right language in the climate debate,

00:06:44.060 if you were advising people

00:06:46.360 who oppose the climate scare,

00:06:48.620 wouldn't you tell them that they should study language

00:06:51.520 and they should pay attention to it?

00:06:53.260 And the Bing AI said, oh no,

00:06:55.900 I would never tell them that.

00:06:57.380 I would tell them that they should change

00:06:59.000 their point of view, you know?

00:07:01.820 So it's quite funny to actually have

00:07:03.980 this little debate with it.

00:07:05.160 I said, yes, but if you were advising them

00:07:07.480 and it finally admitted, yeah,

00:07:09.120 you guys had better study language, you know?

00:07:11.800 So what I did is I went and looked

00:07:13.720 at the new Conservative Party of Canada policies.

00:07:19.260 policies, they've actually taken out

00:07:21.400 some really garbage-y stuff, which is great, okay?

00:07:24.800 But here's another, here's two of them.

00:07:26.600 I'll just read a couple.

00:07:28.640 They say that their policies will be firmly based

00:07:31.220 on the best scientific and technological information

00:07:33.740 currently available concerning both the issues

00:07:36.400 and our responses to them.

00:07:37.840 Okay, that sounds great, you know?

00:07:39.500 I mean, you're gonna do that.

00:07:41.320 But then they go on to say,

00:07:43.560 in pursuit of a purposeful gradual transition

00:07:46.720 to a lower carbon use future,

00:07:49.260 a Conservative government will support

00:07:51.400 the continued use of oil and gas

00:07:53.000 while encouraging research and development

00:07:55.100 aimed at creating safe, dependable,

00:07:57.420 and economical options, including,

00:08:00.060 are you ready for this?

00:08:01.100 This is Conservative, remember?

00:08:03.280 Including carbon capture technology,

00:08:05.720 well, thank you, battery storage, pathetic,

00:08:10.360 small modular reactors, okay, that makes sense,

00:08:13.020 and hydrogen-based generation,

00:08:14.700 which, of course, is ridiculous.

00:08:16.280 You lose incredible amounts of energy

00:08:17.880 when you make the hydrogen,

00:08:19.940 and then you use it as a currency later.

00:08:22.220 So what they're doing is they're feeding

00:08:24.360 the false narrative of the climate scare

00:08:27.500 in the hopes that, oh, yeah, sure,

00:08:29.960 our industry will be killed,

00:08:31.740 but it'll be a little slower and less painful.

00:08:34.760 We'll feed the crocodile last.

00:08:37.240 You know, and it's interesting,

00:08:38.700 because I think the most powerful voice

00:08:41.420 against the phasing out of Canadian oil and gas

00:08:43.960 in this country, as far as premiers go,

00:08:45.700 is Daniel Smith.

00:08:46.920 I mean, she's really poking back at the feds,

00:08:49.640 and she's having some other premiers join her, 0.96

00:08:51.720 including Scott Moe,

00:08:52.980 but she says this stuff, too.

00:08:54.820 She says, you know what we're going to do?

00:08:56.320 We're not going to phase out

00:08:57.500 our oil and gas industry.

00:08:58.760 We're going to do things

00:09:00.200 to offset our carbon emissions.

00:09:02.800 At least she still calls them emissions

00:09:04.260 and not pollution,

00:09:05.700 but it's still conceding the language

00:09:07.040 to the other side,

00:09:07.760 and she says we'll do things

00:09:08.620 like carbon capture.

00:09:10.420 Why?

00:09:10.860 Yeah, exactly.

00:09:11.420 I've got a tree.

00:09:11.920 I have a tree that does that.

00:09:14.440 Yeah, Pierre Polyev does the same thing.

00:09:16.920 I mean, Pierre Polyev says

00:09:18.080 it's not, you know, regulations and taxes.

00:09:21.340 It's technology.

00:09:23.300 Yeah.

00:09:23.580 Technology for what?

00:09:24.780 He wants to store carbon dioxide underground,

00:09:27.020 which has got to be one of the dumbest ideas

00:09:28.800 that people have ever talked about.

00:09:31.120 You know, it's actually dangerous, too,

00:09:32.980 because if you think about it,

00:09:34.440 carbon dioxide is heavier than air,

00:09:36.200 and so if it ever leaks out,

00:09:38.400 it'll form a big bubble over the area,

00:09:41.360 and of course, it displaces the air,

00:09:43.200 so in fact, it would suffocate people,

00:09:45.480 and, you know, I'll give you

00:09:46.220 a really good example.

00:09:47.560 There's a lake in the Cameroons

00:09:49.500 called Lake Lagos,

00:09:51.120 and back several decades ago,

00:09:53.160 there was a huge natural eruption

00:09:55.260 of carbon dioxide,

00:09:56.560 and I mean, it was huge.

00:09:57.900 You know, it would have filled

00:09:58.660 several city blocks,

00:10:00.000 and as this CO2 bubble

00:10:02.140 rolled down the countryside,

00:10:03.840 it killed hundreds of cattle,

00:10:06.960 it killed dozens of people,

00:10:08.640 and there's a funny,

00:10:09.740 not funny, but interesting story

00:10:11.680 about a fellow who saw people dying

00:10:13.620 all around him.

00:10:14.880 He couldn't smell anything,

00:10:15.940 he couldn't see anything,

00:10:17.280 and he jumped on his motorcycle,

00:10:18.900 and by very good fortune,

00:10:19.960 he drove in the right direction,

00:10:21.440 and he got out of the bubble,

00:10:22.720 and he survived.

00:10:24.100 So you really don't want to live

00:10:25.440 beside one of these things.

00:10:26.480 Can I tell you I do?

00:10:27.280 Because if...

00:10:27.780 Sorry?

00:10:28.760 Can I tell you that I do?

00:10:30.920 Oh, you do?

00:10:31.780 I live next to the Shell-Scotford

00:10:34.800 carbon capture area.

00:10:36.300 Oh, well.

00:10:37.000 We have these salt formations,

00:10:38.720 these salt caverns underground,

00:10:40.460 and it's one of the reasons

00:10:42.100 they put the refinery there,

00:10:43.360 but also they inject the CO2

00:10:45.380 into the salt caverns.

00:10:47.180 It started off as a test experiment.

00:10:49.120 At least it's lower

00:10:50.020 than the rest of us.

00:10:52.260 Yeah, well, that's a good point,

00:10:53.520 because it'll...

00:10:54.560 But, you know, I would...

00:10:55.600 If I were in your shoes,

00:10:56.340 I'd definitely get a CO2 detector

00:10:58.060 if you can, you know,

00:11:00.100 because, I mean, who knows?

00:11:02.420 I suppose statistically

00:11:04.020 for any particular CO2 storage site,

00:11:06.420 it's pretty unlikely

00:11:07.180 that it would leak.

00:11:08.560 And you're right.

00:11:09.520 If it's lower than you,

00:11:11.020 you're probably pretty safe.

00:11:12.840 But the other thing is, of course,

00:11:14.540 it massively increases

00:11:16.020 the cost of energy.

00:11:17.180 Sure.

00:11:17.680 Okay, because you've got

00:11:18.420 to collect the CO2,

00:11:19.800 and then they have to pump it

00:11:21.120 through pipelines,

00:11:22.040 and you can't use, you know,

00:11:23.700 pipelines that already exist

00:11:25.860 because they're full

00:11:26.420 of natural gas, of course.

00:11:27.640 But you've got to pump it

00:11:29.920 somewhere else,

00:11:30.480 and then you've got

00:11:31.080 to compress it,

00:11:31.880 and then you've got

00:11:32.200 to put it underground.

00:11:33.180 So it takes a huge amount

00:11:34.180 of energy.

00:11:35.060 So, in fact,

00:11:35.660 when you talk about

00:11:36.500 carbon capture and storage,

00:11:38.380 you know, Bob Murray

00:11:39.120 from Murray Energy

00:11:39.980 in the United States,

00:11:40.880 they were a major coal company.

00:11:42.740 He said, essentially,

00:11:43.880 that carbon capture,

00:11:45.120 as they called it,

00:11:45.840 it's really carbon dioxide,

00:11:47.180 but carbon capture and storage

00:11:48.500 is essentially a synonym

00:11:50.260 for no coal.

00:11:52.540 Okay?

00:11:53.840 And, you know,

00:11:54.480 we should want to keep coal.

00:11:55.740 I mean, everybody says,

00:11:57.340 oh, we've got to get rid of coal. 0.93

00:11:58.720 Well, no, actually.

00:11:59.940 They're replacing coal,

00:12:01.700 in many cases,

00:12:02.380 with natural gas.

00:12:04.140 And, you know, Sheila,

00:12:05.200 I call that a reverse Midas touch.

00:12:07.860 That's like turning gold

00:12:09.300 into lead.

00:12:10.380 Okay?

00:12:10.700 Save our natural gas

00:12:11.880 for what it's really,

00:12:13.020 you know, good for.

00:12:14.280 And coal is a very dependable,

00:12:16.620 solid base load power source.

00:12:18.720 So we should keep coal

00:12:20.140 with the best pollution

00:12:21.260 control devices, of course,

00:12:22.980 and forget about CO2 capture.

00:12:25.740 But, you know,

00:12:26.600 this whole business,

00:12:27.880 I think a lot of the grassroots

00:12:29.360 are not happy

00:12:30.780 about the way

00:12:32.100 that Pierre Polyev

00:12:33.120 and Daniel Smith

00:12:33.920 are promoting the climate scare

00:12:36.020 through their language.

00:12:37.580 Okay?

00:12:37.960 They're actually using

00:12:39.040 the language of their enemies.

00:12:41.180 I'll give you an example.

00:12:42.860 Last year,

00:12:43.460 we were at the Strong

00:12:44.360 and Free Networking Conference

00:12:45.480 and we had a booth

00:12:46.360 and it was quite interesting

00:12:47.680 because a lot of

00:12:49.300 conservative grassroots people,

00:12:51.060 they came up and said,

00:12:51.800 yeah, we agree with you.

00:12:52.620 This whole thing is a hoax.

00:12:53.720 There's no climate crisis.

00:12:55.780 And I asked some

00:12:57.220 of the candidates,

00:12:58.180 campaign managers,

00:12:58.960 I said, you know,

00:12:59.960 do you think

00:13:00.720 or does your candidate think

00:13:01.920 that we have a climate crisis?

00:13:04.360 And they said, no.

00:13:05.420 I said, well,

00:13:06.260 then why are they promoting

00:13:07.380 the climate scare?

00:13:08.220 And of course,

00:13:08.560 the answer was

00:13:09.180 because they want

00:13:09.820 to be prime minister.

00:13:10.880 Right.

00:13:11.280 Well, just down the hall,

00:13:13.340 there was a special session

00:13:15.280 about a conservative approach

00:13:17.260 to stopping climate change,

00:13:18.940 you know,

00:13:19.160 and reducing emissions

00:13:20.120 and all that.

00:13:20.680 So I went there

00:13:22.160 and sat right in the front

00:13:22.980 because they were

00:13:23.600 they were supposed

00:13:24.180 to have a question period.

00:13:25.460 But I guess maybe

00:13:26.380 they saw me there

00:13:27.220 because they skipped

00:13:27.980 the question period.

00:13:29.600 But anyway,

00:13:29.900 I went to the coordinator

00:13:30.920 afterwards and I said,

00:13:32.240 do you think we have

00:13:33.420 a climate crisis

00:13:34.220 caused by humans?

00:13:35.780 And he said, no.

00:13:37.560 I said, well,

00:13:38.340 then why are you pushing

00:13:40.420 the climate scare?

00:13:42.460 And you know what he said?

00:13:43.360 He said, well,

00:13:43.860 we fought that war

00:13:44.860 and we lost it.

00:13:46.340 I said,

00:13:46.900 you never fought that war.

00:13:48.360 I mean,

00:13:49.180 except for a few speeches

00:13:50.320 from people like Preston Manning

00:13:52.320 at the very beginning

00:13:53.120 and he changed sides later

00:13:54.480 and Bob Mills

00:13:55.260 who changed sides later

00:13:56.400 and Stephen Harper

00:13:57.160 who changed sides later.

00:13:58.500 They never fought the war.

00:14:00.140 Yeah.

00:14:00.320 I mean,

00:14:00.800 people have to remember

00:14:02.180 that Stephen Harper

00:14:04.300 with John Baird

00:14:05.380 as environment minister,

00:14:06.220 they're the ones

00:14:06.960 that signed

00:14:07.360 the Paris Agreement.

00:14:08.740 Let me just have

00:14:09.200 a glass of water here.

00:14:10.280 Yeah.

00:14:18.080 So, I mean,

00:14:18.780 what they should be saying

00:14:20.600 is carbon dioxide

00:14:22.800 is not causing

00:14:24.660 dangerous global warming.

00:14:26.220 We don't need

00:14:27.440 any carbon solution

00:14:29.680 at all.

00:14:31.000 But they won't say that.

00:14:32.760 And, you know,

00:14:33.160 I think that the liberals

00:14:34.500 who are pushing

00:14:35.080 and anybody who's pushing

00:14:36.280 the climate alarm,

00:14:37.300 they must be thrilled

00:14:38.160 when their enemy

00:14:38.880 uses their language.

00:14:40.740 Well,

00:14:41.200 and these are the same people,

00:14:42.440 by the way,

00:14:43.160 that conservatives

00:14:45.100 are cozying up to

00:14:46.240 who will accuse anybody

00:14:47.700 who says,

00:14:48.340 you know what,

00:14:48.800 I'm not,

00:14:49.320 I don't think taxing my car

00:14:51.220 will stop forest fires.

00:14:53.200 The other side

00:14:54.340 of this argument

00:14:54.880 calls those

00:14:55.580 very reasonable people

00:14:56.920 arsonists.

00:14:58.540 They are using

00:14:59.300 wild,

00:15:00.480 insane,

00:15:00.980 hyperbolic language

00:15:01.820 and the conservatives

00:15:02.540 are completely adopting it.

00:15:04.260 And this is a winning issue,

00:15:06.180 by the way,

00:15:07.060 across all political

00:15:08.480 stripes.

00:15:09.820 I think it was,

00:15:11.760 I just,

00:15:12.360 I'm pulling it up

00:15:12.960 out of the corner

00:15:13.420 of my eye

00:15:13.800 because I remember

00:15:14.300 when I co-hosted

00:15:15.140 for Ezra,

00:15:15.680 guest hosted for Ezra,

00:15:17.320 I had done a show

00:15:18.660 on the polling data

00:15:20.420 on Canadians' 0.83

00:15:22.700 opinions

00:15:23.040 on climate change.

00:15:24.620 And it was an Ipsos poll

00:15:26.140 commissioned by

00:15:26.820 the Montreal Economic Institute.

00:15:29.060 And it showed

00:15:29.460 that Canadians

00:15:29.940 across all age groups,

00:15:31.120 including younger

00:15:32.840 traditional left

00:15:33.660 voting demographics,

00:15:34.560 are completely over

00:15:35.520 the carbon tax.

00:15:36.340 Six in ten Canadians 0.90

00:15:37.220 can't

00:15:38.180 or don't want

00:15:39.180 to pay more

00:15:39.780 in taxes

00:15:40.360 to fight climate change.

00:15:42.780 And it's two

00:15:44.000 and three people

00:15:44.680 are pro-pipeline,

00:15:45.780 pro-oil and gas.

00:15:47.460 This is a winning issue

00:15:48.700 if conservatives

00:15:49.580 would campaign on it.

00:15:50.660 They're just scared

00:15:51.460 to for some reason.

00:15:53.660 Well,

00:15:53.880 it's not just

00:15:54.480 that they're scared to.

00:15:55.500 I mean,

00:15:55.800 they're letting the camel

00:15:57.420 in the tent

00:15:58.220 and they're parading it around.

00:15:59.980 I mean,

00:16:00.280 they're actually promoting

00:16:01.340 the climate scare.

00:16:02.140 I mean,

00:16:02.440 listen to this.

00:16:03.060 We have a group

00:16:04.020 in Canada,

00:16:04.680 they're MPs,

00:16:05.900 Conservatives for Clean Growth.

00:16:07.800 Okay.

00:16:08.080 It was founded last year

00:16:09.140 by Lisa Raitt.

00:16:10.040 Of course.

00:16:10.560 She's a former 0.92

00:16:11.360 federal minister.

00:16:12.280 Jim Denning,

00:16:12.800 who is a former

00:16:13.300 provincial minister.

00:16:15.100 And Ken Busenkal.

00:16:16.580 And here's what they say.

00:16:17.700 A stable,

00:16:18.580 credible,

00:16:19.160 long-term,

00:16:19.760 net-zero climate plan

00:16:20.980 today will open the door

00:16:22.140 to opportunities

00:16:22.940 in the future.

00:16:24.440 Yeah,

00:16:24.700 opportunities to end

00:16:25.940 the oil and gas industry.

00:16:27.720 I mean,

00:16:28.000 you have to realize

00:16:29.160 that is their goal.

00:16:30.940 I mean,

00:16:31.460 they don't want to have,

00:16:32.280 you know,

00:16:32.760 carbon capture.

00:16:33.680 They don't want to have

00:16:34.380 less oil and gas.

00:16:35.600 They want to have none.

00:16:36.660 Yeah.

00:16:36.840 Okay.

00:16:37.080 Look at these big protests

00:16:38.160 that are happening in,

00:16:39.280 well,

00:16:39.700 Ottawa just a few days ago,

00:16:41.200 but also all over New York City.

00:16:43.080 I mean,

00:16:43.660 the whole focus of that

00:16:45.020 is end carbon cap

00:16:46.520 and all carbon dioxide

00:16:48.160 producing fuels.

00:16:49.440 And the same thing's happening

00:16:50.720 in the United States.

00:16:51.660 I'll just read you a quote here.

00:16:53.060 It's a group called

00:16:53.860 the Conservative Climate Caucus,

00:16:56.160 a caucus within

00:16:57.140 the House of Representatives.

00:16:58.560 They got 73 members

00:16:59.780 and here's one of their

00:17:00.600 main statements.

00:17:02.140 And I'm going to show you

00:17:03.120 in a sec that industry,

00:17:04.380 believe it or not,

00:17:04.900 are promoting this too.

00:17:05.760 Oh,

00:17:05.820 they're completely colonized

00:17:06.980 by this nonsense.

00:17:08.140 I know.

00:17:08.600 It's insane.

00:17:09.520 The Conservative Climate Caucus

00:17:11.180 in the House of Representatives,

00:17:12.340 they say,

00:17:13.360 climate change is a global issue

00:17:14.860 and China is the greatest

00:17:15.960 immediate obstacle

00:17:16.880 to reducing world emissions.

00:17:18.820 Solutions should reduce

00:17:19.880 global emissions

00:17:20.640 and not just feel-good policies.

00:17:23.380 No, guys,

00:17:24.380 you should not accept guilt

00:17:25.820 for a crime

00:17:26.500 that you're not committing.

00:17:27.820 Okay?

00:17:28.040 It's as if you're charged

00:17:29.660 with murder

00:17:30.540 and your lawyer comes to you

00:17:32.180 and says,

00:17:32.500 look,

00:17:32.660 if we plead guilty

00:17:33.820 and we act really nice,

00:17:35.740 you might only get

00:17:36.680 life imprisonment

00:17:37.760 instead of being,

00:17:39.000 you know,

00:17:39.340 executed

00:17:39.820 if you're in a state

00:17:40.700 somewhere that executes people.

00:17:42.560 You say to your lawyer,

00:17:43.720 no,

00:17:44.060 I'm not guilty.

00:17:44.980 I didn't do it.

00:17:46.020 Okay?

00:17:46.300 But, you know,

00:17:48.180 right now,

00:17:48.980 there's something called

00:17:49.660 the 24th World Petroleum Conference,

00:17:52.840 okay,

00:17:53.120 that's going on right now

00:17:54.060 in Calgary.

00:17:55.180 And it's interesting

00:17:55.900 because the head

00:17:57.560 of the World Petroleum Congress,

00:17:59.460 Dennis Pancho,

00:18:00.940 okay,

00:18:01.180 he told Global News,

00:18:02.300 it was either yesterday

00:18:03.120 or the day before,

00:18:04.180 that we need to decarbonize

00:18:05.640 the oil and gas industry

00:18:06.940 as much as we can.

00:18:08.140 And here's a quote.

00:18:09.200 Industry has come together

00:18:10.480 to recognize

00:18:11.160 and to appreciate

00:18:12.000 that we're all in this together,

00:18:13.700 that we all need

00:18:14.920 to tackle climate change.

00:18:16.640 It's real, okay?

00:18:18.040 They're using the language 0.98

00:18:19.200 of our enemy.

00:18:19.800 Yeah,

00:18:19.920 and using the language

00:18:20.820 of COVID,

00:18:21.460 by the way.

00:18:22.760 Like,

00:18:22.960 we're all in this together.

00:18:25.160 And so,

00:18:25.620 what can industry do

00:18:26.660 to address the contributions

00:18:28.060 to climate change

00:18:29.620 or its contributions

00:18:30.480 to climate change?

00:18:31.560 And you got the same thing

00:18:32.860 from the Canadian Energy Centre.

00:18:34.620 You know,

00:18:34.960 that is really frustrating.

00:18:36.580 I mean,

00:18:36.780 they are promoting,

00:18:38.000 they're saying,

00:18:38.820 you know,

00:18:39.180 we'll probably not be able

00:18:40.660 to do without technical solutions

00:18:42.300 like underground storage

00:18:43.580 of CO2.

00:18:44.940 And of course,

00:18:45.420 then you got

00:18:45.760 the Pathways Alliance,

00:18:47.340 which is,

00:18:47.820 of course,

00:18:48.040 the oil sands people

00:18:49.120 who are focused

00:18:50.160 on reducing climate change.

00:18:51.980 And they say,

00:18:52.680 our path to net zero

00:18:54.180 from operations

00:18:55.040 will help our country

00:18:55.960 achieve a sustainable future.

00:18:57.760 Well,

00:18:58.060 come on,

00:18:58.660 guys.

00:18:59.520 You know,

00:18:59.720 so I always,

00:19:01.260 you know,

00:19:01.520 I look at this

00:19:02.180 from the point of view,

00:19:03.020 look,

00:19:03.700 if those researchers

00:19:04.760 are promoting this language

00:19:06.580 to support the climate scare,

00:19:08.620 then why are you using

00:19:10.520 their language?

00:19:11.620 And,

00:19:12.180 you know,

00:19:13.000 there's a lot of studies

00:19:14.160 that have gone into

00:19:14.960 the use of language in war.

00:19:17.120 I mean,

00:19:17.280 it is extremely important.

00:19:19.240 It changes the way people think.

00:19:20.720 It's like right out of 1984.

00:19:22.840 So,

00:19:23.040 I mean,

00:19:23.420 the bottom line is

00:19:24.700 that conservatives

00:19:25.360 feel that they fought

00:19:26.860 this battle

00:19:27.620 and lost.

00:19:28.600 The truth is

00:19:29.220 they've barely started.

00:19:30.500 No,

00:19:30.760 they haven't fought this

00:19:31.920 since Kyoto.

00:19:34.300 Yeah.

00:19:35.060 Yeah.

00:19:35.560 No,

00:19:35.820 I find it quite pathetic.

00:19:36.960 And,

00:19:37.400 you know,

00:19:37.460 it's interesting

00:19:37.900 because many in the grassroots

00:19:39.020 are not at all happy

00:19:40.700 that Pierre Polyev

00:19:41.680 and others

00:19:42.160 are promoting the scare.

00:19:43.220 Pierre Polyev

00:19:43.860 stands up for

00:19:44.880 carbon sequestration

00:19:46.660 as he calls it.

00:19:47.840 He wants us to move

00:19:48.740 to electric vehicles

00:19:49.880 and,

00:19:50.360 of course,

00:19:50.580 do a lot of the mining

00:19:51.540 for lithium,

00:19:52.320 et cetera,

00:19:52.600 in Canada,

00:19:53.320 which is better,

00:19:54.380 I guess,

00:19:54.740 than getting it from China.

00:19:56.280 He wants to push

00:19:57.280 developing countries

00:19:58.320 off of coal

00:19:59.260 onto Canada's

00:20:00.760 carbon dioxide

00:20:01.560 lower

00:20:02.200 natural gas.

00:20:03.840 Now,

00:20:04.080 natural gas is great.

00:20:05.400 You know,

00:20:05.580 I support natural gas,

00:20:07.320 but the idea

00:20:08.680 that you should be

00:20:09.200 pushing them off

00:20:09.940 their least expensive

00:20:10.760 form of electricity,

00:20:12.000 that doesn't make

00:20:13.220 any sense at all.

00:20:13.980 You should just simply

00:20:14.700 help them with

00:20:15.400 better pollution control.

00:20:17.660 So,

00:20:17.800 I mean,

00:20:18.380 I think that,

00:20:20.100 you know,

00:20:21.700 just right now,

00:20:23.560 you know,

00:20:23.740 they have this big

00:20:24.320 climate week

00:20:25.220 in New York City

00:20:26.040 and people like Joe Biden

00:20:28.040 and others are saying,

00:20:29.060 you know,

00:20:29.200 this is the greatest

00:20:29.880 threat to humanity.

00:20:31.040 I don't know if you saw,

00:20:31.780 but Biden said

00:20:33.240 that,

00:20:33.960 he said,

00:20:34.440 the only existential threat,

00:20:36.500 this is what he said

00:20:37.120 in Hanoi

00:20:37.660 just two days ago.

00:20:38.820 Guess what?

00:20:39.740 In addition to helping

00:20:41.080 the environment overall,

00:20:43.060 and the only existential

00:20:43.900 threat humanity faces,

00:20:45.880 even more frightening

00:20:47.020 than a,

00:20:47.600 as I think for the war,

00:20:49.740 is global warming

00:20:51.580 going above 1.5 degrees

00:20:53.580 in the next 20,

00:20:55.140 10 years.

00:20:56.700 And we're,

00:20:57.220 we're real troubling.

00:20:58.920 There's no way back

00:21:00.060 from that.

00:21:00.800 The only existential threat

00:21:02.580 to humanity,

00:21:03.800 more frightening

00:21:04.680 even than nuclear war,

00:21:06.840 is global warming

00:21:08.140 of 1.5 degrees.

00:21:09.860 That's why they don't seem

00:21:10.960 to be taking that conflict

00:21:12.060 between Russia and Ukraine

00:21:13.220 all that seriously.

00:21:14.560 It's because

00:21:14.900 they're worried

00:21:15.540 about climate change

00:21:16.440 and I'm like,

00:21:17.020 are they going to nuke

00:21:17.960 the world?

00:21:19.020 I'm not sure.

00:21:20.540 Yeah.

00:21:21.300 But you know,

00:21:21.960 Sheila,

00:21:22.320 there's lots of polls

00:21:23.360 around the world,

00:21:24.320 even the UN polls,

00:21:25.900 that show that

00:21:26.420 the average person

00:21:27.280 is not concerned

00:21:28.160 about climate change

00:21:29.180 in comparison

00:21:29.980 with things like

00:21:30.680 peace and prosperity

00:21:31.640 and food and water

00:21:32.880 and freedom

00:21:33.640 and all that sort of thing.

00:21:35.160 And you know,

00:21:35.620 the UN itself

00:21:36.580 did a poll

00:21:37.260 called My World.

00:21:38.700 They started in 2015

00:21:39.760 and they got over

00:21:40.920 9 million people voting

00:21:42.460 all across,

00:21:43.640 all across the world,

00:21:44.840 largely in developing countries,

00:21:46.080 which is interesting.

00:21:47.180 And they listed

00:21:48.840 17 possible priorities

00:21:51.100 for the UN

00:21:52.040 to focus on.

00:21:52.860 You're,

00:21:53.140 you were supposed

00:21:53.580 to choose your top six.

00:21:55.100 And climate change

00:21:56.480 came out dead last

00:21:57.560 of the 17 priorities.

00:22:00.400 Yeah.

00:22:00.720 And you see this

00:22:01.540 over and over.

00:22:02.280 I mean,

00:22:02.460 Gallup just did a poll

00:22:03.500 in the United States

00:22:04.380 and, you know,

00:22:05.360 they're asking people

00:22:06.200 questions about,

00:22:07.140 you know,

00:22:07.480 how much,

00:22:07.920 how seriously

00:22:08.360 they take this,

00:22:09.500 et cetera.

00:22:10.160 And the bottom line

00:22:11.660 is that the politicians

00:22:12.980 are leading us

00:22:13.940 into kind of a

00:22:14.720 never,

00:22:15.380 never land

00:22:16.100 that the average person

00:22:17.700 does not support.

00:22:19.000 Yeah.

00:22:19.320 Okay.

00:22:19.700 So you're right.

00:22:20.720 This is an election issue.

00:22:22.360 I don't know

00:22:22.600 if you saw the GOP debate,

00:22:24.540 the first primary debate

00:22:26.780 for a candidate

00:22:27.980 to be the GOP candidate

00:22:29.160 for president.

00:22:32.500 Ramaswamy,

00:22:33.100 his name is.

00:22:33.740 Vivek.

00:22:34.180 He got up there

00:22:34.840 and he said three times,

00:22:36.280 he said,

00:22:36.840 the climate scare

00:22:38.240 is a hoax.

00:22:39.320 He said it three times.

00:22:40.440 Okay.

00:22:40.660 You couldn't,

00:22:41.120 couldn't miss it.

00:22:42.220 And he said,

00:22:42.700 the only people dying

00:22:43.800 from climate

00:22:44.560 is from climate policy,

00:22:46.140 not from climate change,

00:22:48.080 which of course is true.

00:22:49.000 Nobody dies

00:22:49.560 from climate change.

00:22:51.060 And well,

00:22:52.400 you know,

00:22:52.840 unless you have

00:22:53.420 extreme cooling

00:22:54.560 the way we did

00:22:55.800 in Greenland,

00:22:57.100 you know,

00:22:57.380 which of course led

00:22:58.080 to the extinction

00:22:58.980 of the Greenland colony.

00:23:00.720 But Vivek.

00:23:01.900 Swami was, 1.00

00:23:02.580 was very,

00:23:03.320 very smart.

00:23:04.220 Okay.

00:23:04.480 And I was reading

00:23:05.340 a recent opinion poll

00:23:06.500 and apparently after Trump,

00:23:07.960 he's now the leading candidate.

00:23:10.380 And,

00:23:10.480 and,

00:23:10.740 you know,

00:23:10.840 we have to remember also

00:23:11.920 that Stephen Harper

00:23:12.960 was a strong climate skeptic.

00:23:15.960 Okay.

00:23:16.220 He said that the Kyoto Protocol,

00:23:18.280 how did he put it?

00:23:19.740 A socialist money grabbing scheme,

00:23:22.160 I think were the terms he used.

00:23:23.360 Evergreen.

00:23:23.760 And yet he became prime minister.

00:23:25.600 Yes.

00:23:25.780 So I don't know why

00:23:26.680 these people are so afraid of it.

00:23:28.180 I mean,

00:23:28.360 the average person

00:23:29.360 would agree with them.

00:23:30.780 It's stupid.

00:23:32.540 You know,

00:23:32.780 going back to,

00:23:33.460 I was just,

00:23:34.040 while you were talking,

00:23:35.120 because again,

00:23:36.520 I live next door

00:23:37.480 to a carbon capture facility,

00:23:39.560 Shell's Quest facility,

00:23:41.260 and they just proposed

00:23:42.120 another one called Polaris.

00:23:44.100 And I've seen the data

00:23:45.840 on what this thing

00:23:46.980 actually does.

00:23:48.460 It releases more carbon

00:23:50.200 than it captures.

00:23:50.920 It's supposed to,

00:23:52.440 Oh, I'm not surprised.

00:23:53.020 It's supposed to capture

00:23:53.680 like 90% of Shell's

00:23:55.720 greenhouse gas emissions.

00:23:57.860 And I think it sequestered

00:23:59.520 like 40%

00:24:01.720 and released 60% of the,

00:24:04.120 and it's just a big

00:24:06.580 taxpayer boondoggle.

00:24:08.320 The thing initially,

00:24:09.420 like 15 years ago,

00:24:11.520 cost a little over $1 billion.

00:24:14.000 I can't even imagine

00:24:14.780 putting a shovel in the ground

00:24:15.900 for less than $2 billion

00:24:17.180 at this point.

00:24:17.840 But more than half of that money

00:24:20.060 came from subsidies

00:24:20.980 and grants from

00:24:22.060 the provincial government

00:24:23.320 and the federal government.

00:24:25.380 It's just a make work

00:24:26.780 virtue signaling project

00:24:28.340 that even if you cared

00:24:29.560 about greenhouse gas emissions,

00:24:30.980 and I definitely don't,

00:24:32.720 it doesn't do

00:24:33.420 what it says it's going to do.

00:24:35.320 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:36.400 And actually,

00:24:37.280 this is interesting.

00:24:38.600 If you were a true

00:24:40.360 left wing,

00:24:41.800 socially conscious

00:24:42.820 environmentalist,

00:24:43.940 you should oppose

00:24:45.100 wind and solar power.

00:24:46.160 You should oppose many

00:24:47.080 of the plans

00:24:47.640 that they're promoting.

00:24:48.840 And you might have seen

00:24:49.560 the film by Michael Moore,

00:24:51.080 a very left wing film producer,

00:24:52.820 called Planet of the Humans.

00:24:54.340 And in Planet of the Humans,

00:24:55.500 they show that wind and solar

00:24:56.860 are probably the most filthy

00:24:59.000 energy sources on the planet.

00:25:00.800 When you look how they mine 0.98

00:25:02.280 the lithium,

00:25:02.980 the cobalt,

00:25:03.620 you know,

00:25:03.800 and children in the Congo

00:25:04.940 to get you the cobalt,

00:25:06.300 they have no plan

00:25:07.080 for getting rid

00:25:07.720 of all the wind turbines.

00:25:08.920 They don't actually

00:25:09.560 decompose easily,

00:25:11.060 the fiberglass,

00:25:11.920 et cetera.

00:25:12.640 And of course,

00:25:13.480 enormous amount

00:25:14.300 of toxic waste

00:25:15.340 from solar panels

00:25:16.280 when they're used up.

00:25:17.240 They just throw them

00:25:17.780 in the ground.

00:25:19.100 So, you know,

00:25:19.740 the whole thing is that if you,

00:25:21.520 and also if you were interested

00:25:22.540 in social justice,

00:25:23.740 you should absolutely support

00:25:25.580 Canadian oil and gas,

00:25:27.300 okay,

00:25:27.540 because we have the highest

00:25:28.620 ethical standards

00:25:29.680 in the way we treat

00:25:30.800 our workers.

00:25:31.580 But, you know,

00:25:32.200 you look at how they treat

00:25:33.120 the children in the Congo.

00:25:34.740 Children as young

00:25:35.440 as four years old

00:25:36.580 are in tiny mines,

00:25:38.280 okay,

00:25:38.500 they use children

00:25:39.260 partly to get

00:25:40.140 into the little mines.

00:25:41.640 Yeah,

00:25:41.780 and they're breathing

00:25:42.280 radioactive dust

00:25:43.400 and everything

00:25:43.860 so that a North American

00:25:45.680 can feel virtuous

00:25:46.660 to drive their EV,

00:25:49.060 you know.

00:25:49.420 So, I mean,

00:25:49.940 if you really cared

00:25:51.100 about the environment,

00:25:51.880 if you really cared

00:25:52.640 about social justice,

00:25:54.180 you would oppose

00:25:55.220 virtually everything

00:25:56.640 the left is pushing

00:25:57.940 on this.

00:25:58.680 So, I think what's happened

00:26:00.220 is partly through

00:26:01.560 the choice of language

00:26:02.800 and also through

00:26:03.800 the suppression

00:26:04.580 of information,

00:26:06.120 you know,

00:26:06.340 like the wind turbines

00:26:07.320 were definitely

00:26:07.940 a major contributor

00:26:08.860 to the Texas blackout

00:26:10.620 in 2021

00:26:11.240 when it all failed

00:26:13.060 50% of it

00:26:14.760 in just a few hours.

00:26:16.900 So, I mean,

00:26:17.500 what's happening

00:26:18.200 is people

00:26:19.420 who have a good heart

00:26:20.460 on the left,

00:26:21.120 and there are some,

00:26:21.900 one of my sisters

00:26:22.660 is a strong socialist,

00:26:24.660 she understands

00:26:25.680 the situation now,

00:26:26.640 but most of them

00:26:27.300 simply don't.

00:26:28.080 They've been bamboozled.

00:26:29.560 Yeah,

00:26:29.840 I was talking

00:26:30.780 to Michelle Sterling

00:26:31.620 from Friends of Science

00:26:32.540 about this

00:26:33.100 not all that long ago

00:26:34.420 when, you know,

00:26:35.140 there's this push

00:26:35.820 to get the entire grid

00:26:37.740 contaminated with green energy

00:26:40.100 is what I would call it,

00:26:41.520 and she said

00:26:42.800 the problem is

00:26:44.160 the acres and acres

00:26:45.520 of batteries

00:26:46.300 that you need

00:26:47.700 to park somewhere,

00:26:49.620 usually arable farmland

00:26:51.160 because the city people

00:26:52.100 don't like looking

00:26:52.800 at this stuff,

00:26:53.440 so it ends up

00:26:53.980 next door to me,

00:26:55.360 and then she said

00:26:57.860 there's a real problem

00:26:59.180 with these facilities

00:27:00.680 in that if there is

00:27:02.440 a fire at one of them,

00:27:04.620 the fire departments

00:27:05.660 don't know how

00:27:06.200 to deal with them,

00:27:07.180 they are toxic.

00:27:08.420 It's not like

00:27:09.200 up the road

00:27:10.140 at the refinery,

00:27:11.060 they have their own

00:27:11.860 teams of firefighters

00:27:12.840 who are specifically

00:27:13.640 trained in a fire

00:27:15.720 at that facility.

00:27:16.760 They know how to deal

00:27:17.300 with it almost instantly.

00:27:19.080 They don't know

00:27:19.840 how to deal

00:27:20.460 with the kind

00:27:21.040 of chemical fires

00:27:22.080 that could arise

00:27:22.940 from a battery plant,

00:27:24.100 and that's a real problem

00:27:25.340 for people who have

00:27:26.120 to live next door to them.

00:27:28.120 Oh, yeah, for sure,

00:27:29.180 and I understand

00:27:29.680 Norwegian shipping

00:27:31.320 will no longer

00:27:32.240 take battery-powered cars,

00:27:34.340 EVs,

00:27:34.840 because, of course,

00:27:35.400 we've seen

00:27:35.780 some complete cargoes

00:27:37.020 lost because

00:27:38.000 when the car

00:27:38.560 casts fire,

00:27:39.240 you know,

00:27:39.380 you're on a ship,

00:27:40.020 that's pretty dangerous,

00:27:40.960 and I was reading

00:27:41.860 that in some places

00:27:42.600 in Europe,

00:27:43.100 I believe it's in Germany,

00:27:44.620 they're banning

00:27:45.340 underground parking

00:27:46.360 for electric vehicles.

00:27:48.020 The other thing,

00:27:48.800 of course,

00:27:49.080 which is insane

00:27:49.840 is that I can see

00:27:51.280 a circumstance

00:27:51.820 developing in the future,

00:27:53.680 not too long from now,

00:27:54.840 when insurance companies

00:27:55.960 are going to say

00:27:56.460 you can't park

00:27:57.440 your EV in your garage.

00:27:59.120 Oh, I believe it.

00:27:59.640 It's too dangerous.

00:28:01.140 Yeah, and yet,

00:28:02.160 you have to,

00:28:02.740 in cold weather,

00:28:03.600 you have to park

00:28:04.200 your EV in your garage

00:28:05.260 or you can't start it

00:28:06.340 because the batteries

00:28:08.200 don't work very well

00:28:09.220 when it's minus 30.

00:28:10.540 So you're just going to have

00:28:11.980 this useless piece of junk

00:28:13.560 that's going to sit

00:28:14.420 on the side of the road

00:28:15.340 for the whole winter.

00:28:16.100 You can't use it

00:28:17.060 because you'll void

00:28:17.940 your insurance plan

00:28:19.240 if you, you know,

00:28:20.120 park it inside,

00:28:20.880 and if you don't park it inside,

00:28:21.960 you can't use it.

00:28:23.300 Yeah.

00:28:24.020 But, you know,

00:28:24.520 there's a way out of this

00:28:25.900 for people like Daniel Smith.

00:28:27.740 And what Daniel Smith could do,

00:28:29.980 and I think this would be

00:28:30.840 very, very important,

00:28:32.060 is without actually doing,

00:28:33.660 like, you might remember

00:28:34.320 she actually was lambasted

00:28:36.940 at a CBC event

00:28:38.460 about, oh, 10 or 12 years ago

00:28:40.620 when she expressed some doubt

00:28:42.100 about the climate scare.

00:28:43.580 And she didn't actually

00:28:44.460 set the stage,

00:28:45.300 and so it was actually

00:28:46.620 not very smart

00:28:47.320 from a PR point of view.

00:28:48.700 And, of course,

00:28:49.180 it was a CBC audience,

00:28:50.500 so they, you know,

00:28:51.720 and it was completely

00:28:52.600 loaded with leftists.

00:28:54.420 So as soon as she expressed

00:28:55.360 some doubt

00:28:55.820 about the climate scare,

00:28:57.040 they just massacred her. 0.97

00:28:58.660 And, of course,

00:28:59.220 she thought, oh, my God.

00:29:00.320 And so she backed off

00:29:02.060 and now she changed sides. 0.96

00:29:03.520 But instead of doing that,

00:29:04.600 what she needs to do

00:29:05.500 is say something like this.

00:29:06.820 Look, I'm not a scientist,

00:29:08.740 but I think that

00:29:09.780 we have to look

00:29:10.880 at the science

00:29:11.540 very carefully

00:29:12.320 before we make major

00:29:14.160 life-altering decisions

00:29:15.980 for our society.

00:29:17.540 So without actually

00:29:18.940 biasing them

00:29:19.700 one way or the other,

00:29:21.080 I'm going to hold

00:29:22.160 open hearings

00:29:23.000 in which I bring in

00:29:24.080 scientists from across

00:29:25.060 the political spectrum

00:29:26.080 and a political scientist,

00:29:27.920 and I'm going to actually

00:29:29.500 have them tell us

00:29:30.560 what they think

00:29:31.520 about climate change.

00:29:32.780 And, of course,

00:29:33.240 being Alberta,

00:29:35.360 it's a great location

00:29:36.480 to bring in geologists.

00:29:37.880 Yes.

00:29:38.380 Okay, like Michelle's group,

00:29:39.840 Friends of Science.

00:29:40.780 You know,

00:29:41.160 they're founded

00:29:41.780 with geologists,

00:29:42.760 like people like

00:29:43.520 Albert Jacobs.

00:29:44.920 So what would happen

00:29:46.220 is that she should

00:29:47.640 make the hearing open,

00:29:49.340 okay, should be public.

00:29:50.580 She should not

00:29:51.200 take a position.

00:29:52.500 She should simply say,

00:29:53.460 let's hear what the experts

00:29:54.540 have to say.

00:29:55.620 And what would happen

00:29:56.700 is there would be

00:29:57.340 a Donnybrook,

00:29:58.120 okay, within this meeting.

00:29:59.480 You'd have some scientists

00:30:00.540 like Michael Mann saying,

00:30:01.740 oh, it's the end of the world.

00:30:02.820 And you have the geologist

00:30:03.700 saying, come on,

00:30:04.560 we've had CO2

00:30:05.440 10 times higher in the past

00:30:06.880 and it was colder.

00:30:08.100 So, you know,

00:30:08.640 what are you talking about?

00:30:09.720 And so what would happen

00:30:10.820 is the public would watch this

00:30:12.140 and they'd say,

00:30:13.040 wow, these guys don't agree.

00:30:15.320 There's no consensus.

00:30:16.900 You know, I mean,

00:30:17.660 the science isn't settled.

00:30:18.880 It's all over the map.

00:30:20.360 Maybe we'll wait

00:30:21.120 for 10 years.

00:30:21.960 And in 10 years,

00:30:23.140 if the science is settled,

00:30:24.880 yeah, sure,

00:30:25.420 then we'll talk

00:30:25.980 about reducing CO2.

00:30:27.260 So then after the hearing,

00:30:29.040 Danielle Smith can say,

00:30:30.580 geez, you know,

00:30:31.260 based on what I've heard,

00:30:32.780 it sounds like a big gamble

00:30:34.500 to be trusting

00:30:35.660 only one side

00:30:36.780 of the science.

00:30:37.500 See, most people right now,

00:30:38.680 they don't even know

00:30:39.340 there's another side.

00:30:40.620 Okay, so what she should do

00:30:42.120 is have these open hearings,

00:30:43.960 invite scientists

00:30:44.720 in a nonpartisan way

00:30:46.380 from across the spectrum,

00:30:47.500 and also bring in

00:30:48.620 some engineers.

00:30:49.160 What would happen

00:30:50.160 if we tried to run

00:30:51.100 our society on wind

00:30:52.080 and solar power,

00:30:53.100 Mr. Engineer?

00:30:53.740 And the engineer would say,

00:30:55.600 like, you'd be back

00:30:57.380 to living conditions

00:30:58.360 from the 1800s,

00:31:00.080 and you'd probably

00:31:00.840 have thousands of people

00:31:01.800 die, you know,

00:31:02.840 freezing in the dark

00:31:03.700 because they don't have

00:31:04.340 any power,

00:31:05.080 just like in Texas,

00:31:06.160 where up to 700 people died.

00:31:08.700 You know, I mean,

00:31:09.180 it's amazing.

00:31:09.840 If you look at

00:31:10.720 the Texas statistics,

00:31:12.620 and remember,

00:31:13.240 Texas was more than

00:31:14.140 50% powered

00:31:15.200 by wind power

00:31:16.280 just before the storm hit.

00:31:18.640 And within a few hours,

00:31:19.880 when the wind died,

00:31:21.700 13,000 megawatts

00:31:23.840 went offline,

00:31:25.200 bam,

00:31:25.700 in just a few hours.

00:31:27.220 Now, to give you

00:31:27.880 some perspective,

00:31:29.280 Ontario today,

00:31:30.320 its demand is around

00:31:31.360 16,000 megawatts.

00:31:32.880 So it's almost as if

00:31:34.200 the whole of Ontario

00:31:35.640 went offline

00:31:36.860 in just a few hours.

00:31:38.780 Okay, that's what

00:31:39.580 happened in Texas,

00:31:40.400 and they ended up

00:31:41.100 with 8 million people

00:31:42.540 without power,

00:31:44.020 without water,

00:31:45.220 because, of course,

00:31:45.840 the water filtration plants

00:31:47.380 couldn't pump the water.

00:31:48.660 It's like the whole GTA.

00:31:50.080 Without heat.

00:31:51.520 Yeah, without heat.

00:31:52.860 And this was in Texas,

00:31:54.400 okay, where it was

00:31:54.900 very cold for Texas.

00:31:56.160 But you compare that,

00:31:57.480 let's say, with Ottawa.

00:31:58.680 It was interesting,

00:31:59.220 because I was watching

00:31:59.840 the temperature graph

00:32:01.880 over that time period.

00:32:02.880 I was comparing Ottawa

00:32:03.740 with Austin, Texas.

00:32:05.560 Okay, Austin, Texas

00:32:06.440 had a few days

00:32:07.340 where it went below zero,

00:32:08.400 just below zero, okay?

00:32:10.100 Ottawa, in that same period,

00:32:11.880 had a few days

00:32:12.620 where it went just above zero.

00:32:14.280 Okay, so it's much colder,

00:32:15.540 of course, in Ottawa.

00:32:16.600 And in Texas,

00:32:17.740 they didn't get rid

00:32:18.520 of their natural gas,

00:32:19.840 and they were able

00:32:20.560 to quadruple its output

00:32:22.160 to help compensate,

00:32:23.780 but it wasn't good enough.

00:32:25.140 You get places like Ottawa,

00:32:26.540 and I'm not sure

00:32:27.080 what Calgary's going to do,

00:32:28.320 but Ottawa wants

00:32:29.220 to turn off its natural gas.

00:32:31.340 So it's a lot colder,

00:32:33.300 and we'll have no natural gas

00:32:34.700 to suddenly ramp up.

00:32:36.320 Yeah, you're inviting

00:32:37.320 thousands of deaths,

00:32:38.600 and that's exactly

00:32:39.580 what I would tell them,

00:32:40.560 that's what most engineers

00:32:41.620 would tell them,

00:32:42.320 that you can't rely

00:32:43.680 on these energy sources

00:32:44.860 and batteries to back up.

00:32:47.380 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:32:48.240 You know, like,

00:32:48.700 what fantasy are you in?

00:32:50.020 The biggest battery pack

00:32:51.300 in the world

00:32:51.820 is in California,

00:32:52.680 and it's interesting, Sheila,

00:32:54.420 if they had to power

00:32:55.300 the state with battery power

00:32:57.080 from the biggest battery pack

00:32:58.640 in the world,

00:32:59.500 it would last

00:33:00.360 for 102 seconds.

00:33:02.520 So they'd have enough time

00:33:04.860 to find a flashlight.

00:33:06.440 And so, I mean,

00:33:07.200 what Daniel Smith should do

00:33:09.000 without taking any point of view

00:33:10.480 is bring in experts,

00:33:12.120 and I'd be very happy

00:33:13.160 to go in,

00:33:13.900 but other engineers too,

00:33:15.100 I'm sure would,

00:33:16.260 especially from Alberta.

00:33:17.420 I mean, you guys have

00:33:18.380 geologists and engineers galore.

00:33:20.660 You know, go in

00:33:21.320 and just tell the public

00:33:23.220 what would happen.

00:33:24.680 And, you know,

00:33:25.180 then she can back up

00:33:26.120 and say,

00:33:26.800 oh, well, you know,

00:33:28.560 I didn't really have opinion

00:33:29.940 on this before,

00:33:31.020 but I'm starting to think

00:33:32.680 that this is a big mistake.

00:33:35.100 Yeah, these politicians

00:33:35.840 have to quit taking advice

00:33:36.940 from people who don't understand

00:33:38.160 how the power grid works.

00:33:39.520 It's very complicated,

00:33:40.720 and the people on the left

00:33:42.280 who are telling us

00:33:43.320 that the world,

00:33:44.160 are we dead already?

00:33:45.660 I think we've died

00:33:46.540 a couple times

00:33:47.280 from climate change,

00:33:48.600 either cold or hot,

00:33:50.700 based on their doomsday

00:33:52.020 cult timelines.

00:33:53.040 And we just have to

00:33:54.320 quit taking advice

00:33:55.260 from those people

00:33:55.960 because that's how

00:33:57.220 we all end up dead

00:33:58.520 from, you know,

00:34:00.480 exposure.

00:34:01.040 And you know, Sheila,

00:34:01.800 they've got to realize

00:34:03.120 that a lot of conservatives,

00:34:05.240 although they say,

00:34:06.160 oh, well,

00:34:06.680 we can't say that

00:34:07.700 because that's not

00:34:08.420 public opinion.

00:34:09.160 But, you know,

00:34:10.000 they have the cart

00:34:11.160 before the horse

00:34:11.900 in this case.

00:34:12.800 There was a study done,

00:34:14.040 I think we've spoken

00:34:14.780 about it before,

00:34:15.760 by McGill University,

00:34:17.140 Drexel,

00:34:17.620 and Ohio State University

00:34:18.640 researchers,

00:34:19.440 social scientists,

00:34:20.560 and they were looking at

00:34:21.440 what is the major driver

00:34:23.060 of public opinion

00:34:24.420 on climate change?

00:34:25.800 And they did all sorts

00:34:26.680 of polls

00:34:27.140 and very sophisticated studies,

00:34:28.840 and, you know,

00:34:29.460 at first you would think

00:34:30.220 it would be media.

00:34:31.260 Nope, it wasn't media.

00:34:32.800 Then you'd think,

00:34:33.520 well, maybe it's the science.

00:34:34.660 Nope, it's not the science.

00:34:35.980 It's not the statements

00:34:36.880 of the environmental activists

00:34:38.040 or these big protests.

00:34:39.500 The thing that drives

00:34:40.740 public opinion

00:34:41.560 more than anything

00:34:42.740 in the United States,

00:34:44.200 but I'm sure it would

00:34:44.820 apply in Canada,

00:34:46.000 is the statement

00:34:46.920 of the elites

00:34:47.960 and in particular

00:34:48.900 the statement

00:34:49.520 of politicians.

00:34:51.140 And they gave

00:34:51.700 a very interesting example.

00:34:53.280 When John McCain

00:34:54.020 was alive as a Republican,

00:34:55.880 he was promoting

00:34:56.560 the climate scare.

00:34:57.420 He was supporting it.

00:34:58.660 And the conservatives

00:34:59.780 in the United States,

00:35:00.720 the actual government people,

00:35:01.980 the Republicans,

00:35:02.880 were supporting

00:35:03.620 the climate scare.

00:35:04.340 And public support

00:35:05.880 for taking action

00:35:06.960 to supposedly stop

00:35:08.080 climate change,

00:35:09.060 public support

00:35:09.640 was very high.

00:35:10.680 But when we got

00:35:11.720 Republicans like Trump

00:35:13.180 and others,

00:35:14.020 you know, in power

00:35:14.960 and they started saying

00:35:15.980 things that were true,

00:35:17.300 you know, things like

00:35:18.240 this whole climate scare

00:35:19.740 is ridiculous,

00:35:20.800 the support of public

00:35:21.980 went way down.

00:35:24.000 Okay, so what's happening

00:35:25.540 is many of the

00:35:26.520 inside advisors

00:35:28.400 in communications

00:35:29.220 and strategy

00:35:29.960 for the Conservative Party

00:35:31.000 of Canada,

00:35:31.920 the impression I get

00:35:33.040 is that they're either

00:35:33.840 so young

00:35:34.580 that they don't

00:35:35.140 understand it

00:35:36.020 or they're thinking

00:35:37.000 more about getting jobs

00:35:38.180 in the PR sector

00:35:39.200 afterwards,

00:35:40.080 which, you know,

00:35:40.540 it's pretty well

00:35:41.020 all left wing

00:35:41.760 in the PR industry.

00:35:44.040 And so what they're

00:35:44.740 not doing

00:35:45.380 is they're not

00:35:45.960 taking their role

00:35:47.200 seriously.

00:35:48.060 Their role,

00:35:49.040 to a large extent,

00:35:50.240 is leading public opinion.

00:35:52.960 And that's why

00:35:53.600 I think Daniel Smith

00:35:54.440 could really turn

00:35:55.760 the whole debate around

00:35:56.700 for not just Alberta

00:35:57.700 but for Canada

00:35:58.540 by having open hearings

00:36:00.480 in which experts

00:36:01.360 are allowed to speak.

00:36:02.240 and then say,

00:36:03.600 oh, yeah, wow,

00:36:05.140 geez, you know,

00:36:05.680 this is nothing,

00:36:06.460 this is not settled.

00:36:07.680 I think we've got

00:36:08.420 to wait a little while

00:36:09.440 and then back off

00:36:11.000 the whole carbon capture

00:36:12.780 and all the other things

00:36:13.860 she talks about.

00:36:14.700 Yeah, I mean,

00:36:15.580 and it's just so expensive

00:36:16.720 and apparently,

00:36:17.900 according to the things

00:36:19.040 that I'm reading,

00:36:19.960 also very ineffective.

00:36:22.140 Tom,

00:36:22.700 I could talk to you

00:36:24.040 all day,

00:36:24.480 as you know,

00:36:25.480 but I got to skedaddle,

00:36:27.200 I got to go to Regina.

00:36:28.460 Tell us how people

00:36:31.040 can support the work

00:36:32.400 that you do

00:36:32.980 at the International Climate

00:36:34.220 Science Coalition Canada

00:36:35.380 because,

00:36:36.420 and as I say

00:36:37.180 to Michelle Sterling

00:36:37.880 all the time,

00:36:38.860 there are like

00:36:39.800 just a tiny handful

00:36:41.320 of climate realists

00:36:42.500 in this country

00:36:43.280 and you are up

00:36:44.340 against the deep pockets

00:36:45.600 of the big green machine

00:36:47.920 being funded

00:36:49.200 out of the United States

00:36:50.520 and unfortunately

00:36:51.540 from Ottawa

00:36:52.500 to dam us all

00:36:54.840 into energy poverty.

00:36:56.080 Yeah, exactly.

00:36:58.400 Well, if people go

00:36:59.040 to icsc-canada.com

00:37:01.920 you can see

00:37:02.860 a big red

00:37:03.520 donate button

00:37:04.340 in the upper

00:37:04.840 right-hand corner

00:37:05.500 and we only get

00:37:06.680 donations from individuals.

00:37:08.580 You know,

00:37:08.780 we're a non-profit

00:37:09.660 and we use all the money

00:37:11.900 of course

00:37:12.320 for our campaigns

00:37:13.920 and we'd love

00:37:14.800 to expand our efforts.

00:37:16.280 We were very successful

00:37:17.180 in the Ottawa election

00:37:18.080 as you and I

00:37:18.660 have spoken about.

00:37:19.640 We want to do that

00:37:20.320 in other cities.

00:37:20.980 We want to do that

00:37:21.520 in Calgary

00:37:22.120 where the average person

00:37:23.600 learns enough about this

00:37:24.780 that they can go

00:37:25.480 and contest

00:37:26.220 the climate scare

00:37:27.360 at the municipal level

00:37:28.540 and with sufficient funds

00:37:30.140 we will exactly do that.

00:37:32.700 You've got another project.

00:37:33.880 You've got your podcast.

00:37:35.160 You always forget

00:37:35.760 to tell us about the podcast.

00:37:38.320 That's right.

00:37:38.980 The other side of the story

00:37:40.060 in the United States

00:37:41.100 and exploratory journeys

00:37:42.580 here in Canada.

00:37:43.380 If people go to

00:37:43.940 americaoutloud.com

00:37:45.320 and click on

00:37:46.360 our team

00:37:47.620 and click on my name

00:37:49.020 you can see our podcast.

00:37:50.620 We actually had

00:37:51.640 an interview

00:37:52.080 with Joseph Benamy

00:37:53.040 who's a leading

00:37:54.220 conservative

00:37:54.820 communications expert.

00:37:57.020 He worked actually

00:37:57.620 for Stephen Harper

00:37:58.400 and this week's topic

00:38:00.020 and people can hear it

00:38:01.060 it's right there.

00:38:01.700 It's the first issue

00:38:02.880 actually under my listing

00:38:04.920 is a discussion

00:38:06.400 with him about

00:38:07.160 how the conservatives

00:38:08.240 are making a massive mistake

00:38:10.160 on their language use.

00:38:12.540 Okay, so that's what

00:38:13.240 it's talking to

00:38:14.000 Joseph about.

00:38:15.080 Awesome.

00:38:15.780 Tom, thanks so much

00:38:16.460 for coming on the show

00:38:17.220 and thanks for being

00:38:18.200 such a realistic

00:38:19.880 breath of fresh air

00:38:21.240 in this topic

00:38:22.500 that is just polluted

00:38:23.720 with hyperbole

00:38:25.520 and hysteria. 0.87

00:38:27.420 And newspeak.

00:38:28.420 Newspeak.

00:38:29.100 Newspeak from 1984.

00:38:30.700 George Orwell

00:38:31.580 would be thrilled

00:38:32.280 to see how they've

00:38:33.540 used stuff

00:38:34.400 right out of his book.

00:38:35.640 Yeah, it was a novel

00:38:36.800 not an instruction manual

00:38:38.160 but here we are.

00:38:40.480 Thanks, Tom.

00:38:41.180 Well, friends,

00:38:49.000 we've come to the portion

00:38:49.760 of the show

00:38:50.200 where we invite

00:38:50.820 your viewer feedback.

00:38:51.820 You see,

00:38:52.120 unlike the mainstream media,

00:38:53.240 I actually care about

00:38:54.140 what you think

00:38:54.680 about the work

00:38:55.200 that I do here

00:38:55.800 at Rebel News

00:38:56.340 and the work

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00:38:59.420 It's why we leave

00:39:00.100 our comment section open

00:39:01.500 and it's why

00:39:01.940 I give out my email address

00:39:03.360 right now.

00:39:03.920 It's Sheila

00:39:04.340 at RebelNews.com

00:39:05.900 Drop me a line,

00:39:07.360 send me an email,

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00:39:15.260 why you're reaching out

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00:39:16.740 and it also makes it easier

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00:39:18.420 I get sometimes

00:39:19.080 hundreds of emails a day

00:39:20.120 especially if I said

00:39:21.080 something crazy

00:39:21.700 or controversial

00:39:22.500 given my honest opinion

00:39:24.900 about a prickly topic.

00:39:28.400 Sometimes people

00:39:29.460 like to put me on blast

00:39:31.300 and you know what?

00:39:32.580 Whatever.

00:39:34.340 If I were in the mainstream media

00:39:35.700 I'd be over on Twitter

00:39:36.440 crying about it

00:39:37.080 but I'm not.

00:39:37.600 So anyway,

00:39:38.880 if you maybe

00:39:39.560 you don't want to send me

00:39:40.280 an email,

00:39:40.540 maybe you just want

00:39:41.180 to leave a comment

00:39:41.920 on the show

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00:39:58.280 Now

00:39:58.540 this week's comments

00:40:01.060 come to me

00:40:02.760 because of last week's show.

00:40:05.140 Now last week's show

00:40:06.140 I filled with my friend

00:40:07.200 and my colleague

00:40:07.880 and my partner

00:40:08.680 in documentary filmmaking

00:40:09.860 Ki and Simone

00:40:10.880 you see we were both

00:40:11.800 in Israel

00:40:12.420 and then in Dubai

00:40:14.160 to investigate

00:40:16.320 the impacts

00:40:17.480 of the Trump

00:40:18.660 negotiated Abraham Accords

00:40:20.300 between Israel

00:40:21.260 and five

00:40:22.460 Muslim countries

00:40:24.180 including

00:40:24.680 the United Arab Emirates

00:40:26.140 and it's really been

00:40:28.300 a boom for trade

00:40:29.360 and peace

00:40:30.180 and prosperity

00:40:30.800 and if Donald Trump

00:40:31.660 were on the left

00:40:32.380 he would have

00:40:32.840 gotten

00:40:33.440 a Nobel Peace Prize

00:40:35.360 for what he had done

00:40:36.320 but it was interesting

00:40:37.980 for me to see

00:40:38.840 as a third time visitor

00:40:40.840 to the state of Israel

00:40:41.880 to see

00:40:44.720 my friend

00:40:45.540 Ki and Simone

00:40:46.160 experience

00:40:47.360 Israel

00:40:48.240 for the first time

00:40:49.860 because

00:40:50.660 when you go there

00:40:52.220 you realize

00:40:53.320 that most

00:40:53.920 of everything

00:40:54.520 you hear about Israel

00:40:56.100 in the mainstream media

00:40:57.100 is a complete

00:40:58.180 and total fabrication

00:40:59.040 of the left

00:41:00.380 and the

00:41:02.380 anti-American

00:41:03.540 institutional

00:41:05.580 socialist

00:41:07.340 complex

00:41:08.300 anyway

00:41:09.920 so I did a show

00:41:11.200 with Kian

00:41:11.620 asking him

00:41:12.400 you know

00:41:12.700 like what

00:41:13.080 what were his thoughts

00:41:14.280 experiencing

00:41:17.180 Israel

00:41:17.860 and

00:41:18.220 learning

00:41:19.280 what are

00:41:20.380 the facts

00:41:21.200 from

00:41:22.460 on the ground

00:41:23.640 having

00:41:24.580 learned everything

00:41:25.680 he thought

00:41:26.420 he knew about Israel

00:41:27.260 just

00:41:27.660 from the media

00:41:28.800 and from

00:41:29.480 like his peer group

00:41:30.460 who tend to be

00:41:31.240 pretty anti-Israel 0.63

00:41:32.160 and

00:41:33.680 so anyway

00:41:34.740 we've got some

00:41:35.340 interesting comments

00:41:36.040 about that

00:41:37.280 from people who

00:41:38.180 probably have never

00:41:39.300 been to Israel

00:41:39.900 and who

00:41:40.520 like Kian 1.00

00:41:41.220 only know

00:41:42.560 what they know

00:41:43.040 about Israel

00:41:43.560 from

00:41:44.100 mainstream media sources

00:41:45.800 and anti-American

00:41:47.000 sources

00:41:47.400 anyway

00:41:48.020 um

00:41:49.340 let's go to

00:41:51.540 the comments section

00:41:52.420 that guy

00:41:54.420 a

00:41:54.840 on YouTube

00:41:56.240 by the way

00:41:56.960 this is on YouTube

00:41:57.720 so the free version

00:41:58.400 of the show

00:41:58.740 he writes to me

00:42:00.520 and says

00:42:00.960 saying that

00:42:01.580 standing behind

00:42:02.300 Israel is important

00:42:03.320 because it's about

00:42:04.540 capitalism

00:42:05.240 sums up the

00:42:06.660 sociopathy of

00:42:07.800 rebel

00:42:08.120 better than I ever

00:42:09.400 could

00:42:09.700 it's an interesting

00:42:11.300 comment about

00:42:12.140 being anti-capitalist

00:42:14.100 um

00:42:14.840 from a guy

00:42:15.280 who's watching

00:42:15.760 the free version

00:42:16.580 of the show

00:42:17.860 the version of the show

00:42:18.940 that somebody else

00:42:20.280 through their

00:42:20.980 donations

00:42:21.840 made possible

00:42:23.120 for him to see

00:42:24.140 just a little

00:42:26.460 on the nose

00:42:27.020 don't you think

00:42:27.720 um

00:42:29.400 may

00:42:30.480 bernard

00:42:31.340 6735

00:42:33.380 and I'm just

00:42:33.860 taking these

00:42:34.260 at random

00:42:34.700 by the way

00:42:35.480 he says

00:42:36.220 this was very

00:42:37.160 interesting

00:42:37.560 and I

00:42:38.020 enjoyed this

00:42:38.720 but Sheila

00:42:39.080 your hair

00:42:39.400 looks amazing

00:42:39.960 here

00:42:40.220 I am

00:42:40.580 cruel

00:42:40.800 jealous

00:42:41.140 you know

00:42:41.680 what

00:42:41.800 thank you

00:42:42.140 but the

00:42:42.500 entire

00:42:42.800 time

00:42:43.360 that I

00:42:43.900 was in

00:42:44.400 Israel

00:42:44.880 and Dubai

00:42:45.880 I felt

00:42:46.420 like my

00:42:46.760 hair

00:42:46.940 was just

00:42:47.640 um

00:42:48.160 couldn't get

00:42:49.300 it right

00:42:49.500 it was so

00:42:50.040 humid

00:42:50.400 and so

00:42:51.480 um

00:42:52.520 I'm

00:42:52.940 gonna be

00:42:53.460 honest

00:42:53.720 here

00:42:53.940 I'm

00:42:54.280 come

00:42:54.880 it was

00:42:55.220 three

00:42:55.500 degrees

00:42:55.820 this

00:42:56.060 morning

00:42:56.200 it was

00:42:56.480 oppressively

00:42:57.780 hot

00:42:58.320 while I

00:42:59.180 was there

00:42:59.600 next person

00:43:00.500 says

00:43:00.900 Rolf

00:43:01.380 09

00:43:01.880 why go to

00:43:03.920 Israel

00:43:04.200 just stay

00:43:04.660 on Canadian

00:43:05.200 news

00:43:05.460 not donating

00:43:06.200 money for

00:43:06.700 international

00:43:07.220 news

00:43:07.620 not about

00:43:08.120 Canada

00:43:08.500 well

00:43:08.940 I think

00:43:11.440 it's

00:43:11.600 interesting

00:43:12.060 because

00:43:13.080 part of

00:43:13.680 our

00:43:13.800 mandate

00:43:14.120 here at

00:43:14.620 Rebel News

00:43:15.020 is to

00:43:15.340 tell the

00:43:15.620 other side

00:43:15.980 of the

00:43:16.220 story

00:43:16.500 and if

00:43:16.800 you don't

00:43:17.100 think

00:43:17.380 the fact

00:43:18.520 that peace

00:43:19.300 broke out

00:43:19.980 in the

00:43:20.300 Middle East

00:43:20.920 thanks to

00:43:22.820 Donald Trump's

00:43:24.000 mantra of

00:43:25.340 figure it out

00:43:26.380 if you want

00:43:27.140 access to the

00:43:27.900 White House

00:43:28.400 I think

00:43:30.060 that's pretty

00:43:30.420 interesting

00:43:30.820 if you don't

00:43:31.280 think that

00:43:31.900 peace

00:43:32.960 breaking out

00:43:33.480 in the

00:43:33.720 Middle East

00:43:34.140 is newsworthy

00:43:35.040 well

00:43:35.920 what is

00:43:36.980 newsworthy

00:43:37.600 and by the

00:43:38.000 way we

00:43:38.360 talk about

00:43:38.820 Canadian

00:43:39.140 news

00:43:39.460 all the

00:43:40.800 time

00:43:41.260 and again

00:43:42.080 you're

00:43:42.360 watching the

00:43:42.760 free version

00:43:43.160 of the

00:43:43.380 show

00:43:43.560 so

00:43:43.840 thanks

00:43:45.460 very much

00:43:46.100 Guy

00:43:47.720 Frazier

00:43:48.200 8157

00:43:49.860 says

00:43:50.100 are you

00:43:50.480 allowed

00:43:50.740 to have

00:43:51.160 a Canadian

00:43:51.580 flag in

00:43:52.020 Ottawa

00:43:52.360 or will

00:43:52.840 the

00:43:53.020 Stasi 0.97

00:43:53.380 accost you 0.75

00:43:54.060 under

00:43:54.360 political

00:43:54.840 directives

00:43:55.440 Guy

00:43:56.760 that's an

00:43:57.100 interesting

00:43:57.360 comment

00:43:57.700 because

00:43:57.980 when I

00:43:58.320 was in

00:43:58.580 Israel

00:43:58.940 it was

00:43:59.760 pretty

00:43:59.940 clear

00:44:00.260 that

00:44:00.760 no

00:44:00.980 matter

00:44:01.360 your

00:44:01.780 political

00:44:02.380 leanings

00:44:03.320 and I

00:44:03.880 think

00:44:04.000 this

00:44:04.140 has a

00:44:04.400 lot

00:44:04.500 to do

00:44:04.700 with

00:44:04.840 the

00:44:05.000 mandatory

00:44:05.360 military

00:44:05.840 service

00:44:06.360 there

00:44:06.620 people

00:44:08.400 fly

00:44:08.860 the

00:44:09.200 Israeli

00:44:09.520 flag

00:44:09.900 the

00:44:10.240 left

00:44:10.580 the

00:44:10.900 right

00:44:11.200 doesn't

00:44:12.080 matter

00:44:12.380 they

00:44:12.840 unite

00:44:13.360 around

00:44:13.760 the

00:44:14.360 common

00:44:14.680 cause

00:44:15.160 of the

00:44:15.660 existential

00:44:16.220 threat

00:44:16.740 of

00:44:16.920 terrorism

00:44:17.340 all around

00:44:17.820 them

00:44:18.060 and

00:44:19.460 if you

00:44:20.580 wave

00:44:21.360 the

00:44:21.500 Canadian

00:44:21.780 flag

00:44:22.180 you're

00:44:22.420 not

00:44:22.580 seen

00:44:22.860 as

00:44:23.100 some

00:44:23.480 I'm

00:44:25.040 sorry

00:44:25.220 if you

00:44:25.520 wave

00:44:25.800 the

00:44:25.940 Israeli

00:44:26.760 flag

00:44:27.080 you're

00:44:27.300 not

00:44:27.480 seen

00:44:27.800 as

00:44:28.080 some

00:44:28.260 sort

00:44:28.560 of

00:44:28.800 right

00:44:29.620 wing

00:44:29.900 radical

00:44:30.460 as

00:44:32.300 is the

00:44:32.640 case

00:44:32.880 these

00:44:33.160 days

00:44:33.460 in

00:44:33.660 Canada

00:44:33.960 you know

00:44:34.240 you see

00:44:34.540 those

00:44:34.760 moral

00:44:35.020 printing

00:44:35.340 people

00:44:35.680 on

00:44:35.980 social

00:44:36.760 media

00:44:37.080 and

00:44:37.400 in

00:44:37.520 the

00:44:37.660 news

00:44:37.940 saying

00:44:38.280 is

00:44:38.560 the

00:44:38.740 Canadian

00:44:39.060 flag

00:44:39.440 a

00:44:39.620 far

00:44:39.800 right

00:44:40.080 symbol

00:44:40.460 now

00:44:40.780 I'm

00:44:41.060 uncomfortable

00:44:41.440 flying

00:44:41.860 the

00:44:42.000 Canadian

00:44:42.300 flag

00:44:42.720 I'm

00:44:42.980 triggered

00:44:43.260 by Canada

00:44:43.860 day

00:44:44.120 blah

00:44:44.400 blah

00:44:44.420 but it

00:44:45.800 isn't

00:44:46.020 the

00:44:46.180 case

00:44:46.460 there

00:44:46.780 it

00:44:48.060 really

00:44:48.400 isn't

00:44:48.740 the

00:44:48.880 case

00:44:49.120 in

00:44:49.260 Israel

00:44:49.560 it's

00:44:50.480 I

00:44:52.460 think

00:44:53.020 it

00:44:53.120 is a

00:44:53.340 testament

00:44:53.640 to

00:44:53.860 mandatory

00:44:54.160 military

00:44:54.540 service

00:44:54.980 of course

00:44:55.340 because you

00:44:55.560 have to

00:44:55.740 put aside

00:44:56.100 your

00:44:56.260 political

00:44:56.540 differences

00:44:56.960 to deal

00:44:57.380 with

00:44:57.580 as I

00:44:57.940 said

00:44:58.080 the

00:44:58.240 existential

00:44:58.700 threat

00:44:59.040 all around

00:44:59.440 you

00:44:59.660 but it

00:45:01.200 also is

00:45:01.620 a

00:45:01.760 testament

00:45:02.000 to the

00:45:02.360 power

00:45:02.660 of the

00:45:03.440 mind

00:45:04.120 virus

00:45:04.800 of the

00:45:06.160 Trudeau

00:45:07.120 funded

00:45:07.840 mainstream

00:45:08.380 media

00:45:08.920 in this

00:45:09.980 country

00:45:10.460 upon

00:45:11.420 the

00:45:12.220 malleable

00:45:13.680 Canadian

00:45:14.820 population

00:45:15.500 who

00:45:15.980 will

00:45:16.940 read an

00:45:17.300 article

00:45:17.580 saying

00:45:18.000 oh

00:45:18.440 is

00:45:18.740 the

00:45:19.020 Canadian

00:45:20.120 flag

00:45:20.500 a symbol

00:45:20.840 of the

00:45:21.240 far

00:45:21.420 right

00:45:21.740 and then

00:45:22.560 all of a

00:45:23.000 sudden

00:45:23.160 you think

00:45:23.540 maybe it

00:45:24.040 is a

00:45:24.320 symbol

00:45:24.480 of the

00:45:24.740 far

00:45:24.900 right

00:45:25.180 and then

00:45:25.940 all of a

00:45:26.280 sudden

00:45:26.380 you hate

00:45:26.660 Canada

00:45:26.980 day

00:45:27.220 because

00:45:27.440 you think

00:45:27.720 it is

00:45:27.920 a day

00:45:28.180 that

00:45:28.320 celebrates

00:45:28.740 fascism

00:45:29.340 it's

00:45:30.080 something

00:45:32.000 for us

00:45:32.540 to learn

00:45:33.000 from the

00:45:33.560 state

00:45:33.740 of Israel

00:45:34.180 that's

00:45:34.560 for sure

00:45:34.920 well

00:45:35.900 everybody

00:45:36.240 that's

00:45:36.540 the

00:45:36.640 show

00:45:36.760 for

00:45:36.920 tonight

00:45:37.120 thank

00:45:37.340 you

00:45:37.440 so

00:45:37.560 much

00:45:37.700 for

00:45:37.860 tuning

00:45:38.220 in

00:45:38.500 I'll

00:45:38.660 see

00:45:38.800 everybody

00:45:43.680 tell you

00:45:44.020 that

00:45:44.180 you've

00:45:44.400 had

00:45:44.560 too

00:45:44.760 much

00:45:45.000 to

00:45:45.200 think

00:46:13.680 you

Rebel News Podcast - September 20, 2023

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Conservatives need to reject climate hysteria and the hyperbolic language of the left

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