Chris Barber and Tamara Leach join me to talk about the Freedom Convoy and what they are up to now that they are out of house arrest. They also discuss updates in their case and what is coming in 2026 for Tamara.
00:13:32.740At the end of January in 2022, end of January in 2022, police led us onto Wellington in this truck.
00:13:40.540Tamara was in the passenger seat. My son, Jonathan, and my little dog, Zippy, who sound asleep on the
00:13:44.800passenger seat right now. Police led us on there. They parked us in front of the Supreme Court of Canada.
00:13:50.180The truck was parked in the turning lane with one empty lane to the left and two empty lanes to the right.
00:13:55.780It wasn't impeding traffic at all. When they asked me to move the truck, I listened to police direction and I moved the truck.
00:14:02.500So we listened to authorities. We did, you know, how is this even possible? I got a message from somebody on social media last night.
00:14:09.640And I kind of, I, it kind of hit me a little bit. How are you not bitter with your current situation and how the government is treating you?
00:14:16.500How do you keep it under wraps and put a brave face going forward? And I had to reply back when I say, I, I really fight that sometimes.
00:14:23.660There's a bitterness and an anger inside me that boils sometimes just with the state of our situation and the lack of people that are waking up in this country and seeing what's actually going on.
00:14:32.400But at the end of the day, you know, I've got, I've got a son that I need to be a role model to.
00:14:37.780You had a daughter that looks up to me. You got to keep that brave face on and keep pushing forward. And I think that's the main point of it.
00:14:43.660Yes, it is sometimes hard to stay positive. But again, the whole purpose of lawfare is literally to bankrupt and demoralize you. And nobody can control that. You know, we control our perspective. We control what we can do with our time. And like I've said before, nobody can really take my freedom away.
00:15:03.820My freedom comes from God. And so I can be locked up in my home, but that doesn't make me any less free. And I refuse to let them demoralize me. I'm just, and I'm not a negative person. But I mean, yeah, it is frustrating at times, you know, like I said earlier, watching some of these people just get, you know, recycled through the justice system.
00:15:23.640And, and, you know, I've said it's, it's, it's what the biggest eye opener for me, I feel is that all these institutions that I was raised to believe, were implemented to give me a voice to protect me to make sure that my rights were protected, aren't designed to protect my rights. The legal system in Canada is not designed to protect people like myself and Chris Barber. And you were talking about them deleting these documents, there are civil suits before the courts, right?
00:15:53.620Right now. Ours is one of them for the bank freezes. And so could you imagine if we were deleting evidence, we'd be in a jail cell already.
00:16:02.740Right. Now, Chris, before we move on, what happens, what happens to your family? What happens to your business if they take Big Red?
00:16:15.440I don't know. I guess we find a way to move on. I can tell you one thing that I will fight to my last breath for this truck. This is something that, you know, I, I remember,
00:16:23.620taking the loan out for this truck. It was the biggest loan I'd had in my life and, and fought through payments on this truck for five years.
00:16:29.740And I worked my tail off and here we are 22 years later and, you know, three, 3.4 million kilometers on this truck.
00:16:37.680This truck should by all rights should be retired, but I spend so much time fixing and maintenancing it.
00:16:42.740I just changed the oil and did a maintenance on it on Sunday before I left.
00:16:45.740And all the time I'm doing this, I'm thinking, you know, I'm, I'm still putting money into this truck, something that the government's trying to take and destroy.
00:16:53.280And we find a path forward. Um, but I will tell you this, that I will fight to my last breath over this truck.
00:16:58.420This is, this is my line in the sand. They've run us through the, through the ground in the courts, lawfare at its finest.
00:17:03.820They've demoralized us and tried to demonize us in every media front in this country.
00:17:08.160And, uh, and now they're trying to go for the jugular, I guess, on the last blow.
00:17:12.440And I will fight to the last breath on this. This is my line in the sand. Unfortunately, I,
00:17:17.900you have to stand for something in this country and acknowledge that the government has gone so far out of line
00:17:23.320that eventually they have to correct themselves. How do these crown prosecutors sleep at night?
00:17:28.580How do they go home and look their families in the eye and say, I did Canada a solid today. You know, I, I just don't see it. And it makes me sick.
00:17:36.600And it's just so obviously petty and vindictive. Like, it's like, it's like we're dealing with, I don't know, middle school, you know, it's, it's even sitting in that courtroom sometimes and listening to some of the things and the accusations, like the wild accusations that were coming out of the crown's mouth. I, I just kept, you know, like, who are you people?
00:17:58.720I've asked that so many times because you are not, we are not the same.
00:18:03.300He, he even brought his family to court one day and introduced, I got to shake his wife's hand and his, his two boys hands. And I thought to myself, I'm like, is this like the human side of this person? Why would you bring your family and then introduce me to them?
00:18:17.680And I kind of off guard a little bit. And then I, of course, I shook all the hands and, you know, said hi. And, and here we are now. I just driving down the road, when they introduced the forfeiture hearing, I'd actually was pulling an oversized load.
00:18:31.500I couldn't get off the road safely. So I actually had to log into the court and just put the phone on the dash with my hands for you, just like I'm doing right now. And the judge agreed to let it go because I was working and I was kind of in a bad position.
00:18:42.860But, you know, driving down the highway, pulling a 30 foot wide load and having the crown, hearing the words come out of his mouth, the crown is applying for the forfeiture of the truck.
00:18:51.360And I almost didn't know what to do. You know, you feel so when does it end? When, when does this, this bitterness and hatred end from our government towards people that just stood up?
00:19:04.560We just stood up two years of COVID mandates and people having their lives completely trashed and people eventually people had to say enough.
00:19:12.300And then we did. And this is what they do to you in return. It's just, it's, it's a new level of sickness.
00:19:17.180Especially when all the evidence that keeps, keeps coming out and continues to come out, proves that we were right.
00:19:25.760And, and as much as it is about you too, it is about everybody else not getting any ideas, inconvenient ideas.
00:19:33.960So that's why they have to thoroughly destroy you, which I don't think that they will ever do because I think you two have unbreakable spirits.
00:19:43.500But just going back to something Tamara said, where you're sort of disillusioned by all these institutions that were, you thought were supposed to exist to defend your rights that are God given.
00:19:55.340That I think is one of the worst things about COVID.
00:19:59.520And I don't think we will fully understand the damage of it all for years to come.
00:20:05.080And that is all the people that you would think would be in positions of management and leadership because they had a sense of right and wrong and black and white.
00:20:20.180Those were the people who were run out of town, who were pushed out of their careers in policing, in the military, in law enforcement, in academia, because they didn't go along to get along.
00:20:34.280And so now the only people left in positions of management in our cultural institutions and safety institutions are the people who just would do whatever they were told.
00:20:46.300And I think the damage to society and those institutions, we're not even going to know how bad it is for years to come.
00:20:52.620The entitlement of Canadians right now and the conditioning of society is all but destroyed so much.
00:21:01.140How many people in Christmas in a few weeks from now or another week from now won't be celebrating a Christmas meal together because of what the government has told family members to hate other family members?
00:21:10.940That's the sad part of the year that we're coming into right now and people still can't see it.
00:21:26.400My family, out of my entire family, and I come from a large family, there was only three of us that never got vaccinated, but we never let it get between us or affect our relationships at all.
00:22:00.680Tell us how people can support your legal battle to keep your vehicle and keep your livelihood.
00:22:12.680Two different fronts to this right now.
00:22:14.700The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms has been with us right from the start.
00:22:17.720They're funding, they funded a lot of my criminal trial in Ottawa.
00:22:21.220They're funding our $300 million lawsuit right now that Tamara and I are a part of against downtown lawyer Paul Champ, as well as the Democracy Fund.
00:22:28.840Make sure the Democracy Fund gets their info there, too.
00:22:32.820GCCS has been with us right from the start.
00:22:34.960We've had a little, a couple of fundraisers around home to help with travel expenses.
00:22:39.360And, of course, if anybody wants to see Big Red merch, there's a website design.
00:22:44.020I've got an amazing lady in northern Saskatchewan that looks after all the website.
00:22:47.400And then we've been, we've been supporting a little bit of the SPCA and our local home community with some of the money coming in from that.
00:22:54.440So we went there to donate some stuff and came home with a dog and a cat.
00:22:58.220So remember, everyone, it's Christmas season and there's those animals at the SPCA that need our help, too.
00:23:05.000But bigredmerch.ca, there's a store there in the menu and you can go get a hoodie or a small fringe minority hoodie, stickers, a lot of stuff there.
00:23:13.500It's been unbelievable to see the support.
00:23:15.000We did a run of calendars here about two weeks ago and they sold out so fast.
00:23:18.940We had to order another set of calendars and they sold out within four hours.
00:23:22.680So we're done with the calendars for now.
00:23:26.020My girl that does all this stuff has been working her tail off like day and night trying to get all this stuff out before the Christmas holidays.
00:23:52.140I'm just so grateful for everything that you've done for Canadians and continuing to just give back and to not be demoralized, even though I believe that's the whole point.
00:24:03.520Tamera Leach, I look forward to seeing your little happy face in our morning meetings.
00:24:19.960I heard a rumor that Rebel's supposed to come to the farm with Tamera and you or Lees or somebody and do an interview with Big Red live in the shop.
00:25:32.580The third portion of the show always belongs to you because without you, there's no rebel news.
00:25:38.000So, of course, you know, I have to care what you say about the work that we do or the little stunts that we pull because I pulled a little stunt.
00:25:50.160And my little stunt, it's making its way to the top of the Amazon charts.
00:25:56.580And I think I confused some of you because some of you actually thought that I was an avowed federalist when I did this video right here.
00:26:09.620Sheila Gunn-Reed here, and I'm thrilled to introduce the two books that I just wrote, and I use that word pretty loosely, meet The Case for Confederation, Alberta's Compelling Reasons to Stick Around, and The Case for Confederation, Saskatchewan's Compelling Reasons to Stick Around.
00:26:28.240Two beautifully bound volumes packed with every strong promise and well-researched argument for why Alberta and Saskatchewan should stay within the confines of Canada.
00:26:39.680And by packed, I mean the pages are blank.
00:26:43.540These two books are completely empty because when I went looking for Ottawa's case to keep the prairies or rather for us to stay, that's exactly what I found.
00:26:53.240Flip through either book, and you'll reach the same conclusion I did.
00:26:57.240If the federal government has a convincing argument, it didn't make it into the pages of my book or into reality, for that matter.
00:27:06.080These books will make the perfect gift for your favorite prairie firebrand, your CBC-soaked liberal co-worker, or anyone who still insists equalization is fair.
00:27:15.340Or how about for that guy who yells elbows up every time pipelines or canola or potash comes up.
00:27:21.440And look, even if Ottawa won't offer Alberta or Saskatchewan much, these blank books can, because they're lined.
00:27:29.660They double as notebooks, instantly making them more useful than any federal promise since 1905.
00:27:36.940Get your copies today at thecaseforconfederation.com.
00:27:40.900Order now to get yours in time for Christmas.
00:27:53.120I didn't exactly write them, but I schemed up a little idea and I thought, wouldn't it be great to have these two little empty books, which basically they're stationary.
00:28:03.700Fun notebooks go to the top of the Amazon chart in whatever category that it might land in.
00:28:13.940And with your help, it'll get a little higher.
00:28:15.640That's why we sort of price them affordably at, you know, 10 bucks a pop.
00:28:22.760But yeah, some of you were confused at me.
00:28:26.260Some people didn't finish watching the promo and then sent me angry emails to sheila at rebelnews.com.
00:28:34.360If you want to send me an angry email or a happy email, send it there.
00:28:37.460But some of you watched to the end and I thought I would go through your feedback about what you thought about my two books on the case for Confederation.
00:28:47.040One on Alberta and one on Saskatchewan.
00:28:50.780And of course, there is no case for Confederation.
00:28:54.260And you can get your book at thecaseforconfederation.com.
00:28:57.800If you order it today, it'll be here in time for Christmas.
00:29:06.000Anyway, so on my video launch, we've got Emotionally Exhausted saying there's still more factual content in those pages than anything I've heard a liberal say for the past decade.