Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Court tosses Trudeau's 'no more pipelines' law

00:00:00.000 Justin Trudeau's government was just handed an embarrassing loss in court.

00:00:05.260 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:24.900 Friends, a beautiful thing happened this week.

00:00:26.960 Justin Trudeau's anti-pipeline, well, they call it the No More Pipeline Law Bill C-69

00:00:32.700 was struck down in the federal court as unconstitutional.

00:00:36.800 It was based on a court challenge brought by, yes, you guessed it, the province of Alberta

00:00:41.380 saying that the federal government had severely overstepped its mandate and wandered into provincial

00:00:48.900 territory when it made a whole host of things, considerations when approving massive energy

00:00:56.620 projects.

00:00:57.480 For example, the new legislation included an examination of the intersection of sex and

00:01:04.860 gender for some reason when considering approving a pipeline project.

00:01:10.520 So I thought, why not have two people who would be apparent considerations to the federal

00:01:20.960 government when approving a pipeline project?

00:01:23.160 You see, they're supposed to, or they were supposed to examine how a pipeline made us ladies 1.00

00:01:28.400 feel or whether the members of the LGBT community would be adversely affected by this pipeline.

00:01:36.040 So, me being a woman and my guest being a gay Métis man, I thought, who better to talk 0.89

00:01:43.140 about the federal government's loss in court to a government in Alberta that's also led

00:01:50.940 by a lady, Danielle Smith.

00:01:52.520 So joining me today in an interview we recorded yesterday morning is my friend Robbie Picard from

00:01:59.500 Oil Sands Strong.

00:02:00.840 Take a listen.

00:02:09.020 So joining me now is my friend Robbie Picard from Oil Sands Strong.

00:02:15.060 Robbie, thanks for agreeing to come on the show.

00:02:17.780 As soon as I heard that Justin Trudeau's No More Pipelines law was struck down, I knew I

00:02:23.140 had to talk to you because you've been such an advocate against this law for a very long time.

00:02:28.940 What was your first reaction?

00:02:30.020 I mean, this is a court challenge that was brought by Jason Kenney, continued by Daniel

00:02:34.000 Smith.

00:02:35.600 What was your first reaction when you heard, yes, he lost?

00:02:40.660 I was absolutely thrilled, but candidly, I wasn't that surprised.

00:02:45.320 I always thought that that law was a massive overreach and I felt that it was literally a

00:02:53.000 way to suppress and hold back Alberta and put us in a position that we're sort of, I don't

00:02:58.800 know, subservient to our overloads or overlords in Ottawa that don't have any sense.

00:03:04.160 So I wasn't surprised, but I was absolutely thrilled.

00:03:07.520 And I hope it's the beginning of us reclaiming our sovereignty when it comes to our energy resources.

00:03:12.840 Yeah, I mean, it was struck down on the opinion of the court in a 5-2 decision that it was reaching

00:03:22.080 into things that are provincial jurisdiction.

00:03:24.280 But I thought it was strange because there was one sort of kooky dissenting voice in all

00:03:31.380 of this and that was, I'm just scrolling down, Supreme Court Justice Sheila Greco, she was a dissenter

00:03:42.220 on this and she wrote, our planet is on fire.

00:03:45.580 We need water, not heat.

00:03:48.020 I assume she doesn't live in Northern Alberta like you do.

00:03:50.780 Once again, it goes to show you that the, I make the argument that the so-called green

00:04:03.660 energy movement has sabotaged common sense of politics.

00:04:07.940 And I'll be honest, Sheila, I'm finding myself really hard to press for any type of carbon

00:04:13.500 action in Canada, period.

00:04:15.880 We are only 1.0% of all global warming.

00:04:20.580 And what I find very interesting is, is that if Canada fell off the face of the earth tomorrow

00:04:25.280 and we did not exist, we'd make zero difference when it comes to global emissions.

00:04:30.460 But we're taxing ourselves, penalizing ourselves, stopping pipelines.

00:04:35.060 And if you look at the current situation in the world right now, what's going on in Israel

00:04:38.820 and other places, you need a strong country that has strong resources, that has good energy,

00:04:46.560 that does it environmentally friendly and fiscally responsible.

00:04:50.400 And it goes to show you that this is not about law or common sense.

00:04:57.940 This is about a woke movement that has poisoned federal politics.

00:05:02.780 You know, I'm so glad you brought up just how this really put wokeness into legislation.

00:05:08.820 Regarding energy projects, like I don't even know how, what sort of fevered mind cooked

00:05:14.600 this legislation up.

00:05:16.160 But when you really drill down on what the legislation was, it forced federal regulators.

00:05:22.980 First of all, it created a whole new regulatory body.

00:05:26.260 The other one was working just fine.

00:05:28.660 The National Energy Board was working just fine.

00:05:31.180 It created a whole new regulator and then forced that new regulator to consider woke things

00:05:36.800 like climate change, public health, and the intersection of sex and gender before approving

00:05:44.480 major energy projects.

00:05:46.640 Robbie, I don't think that I'm outing you when I say that you're gay, but I think that 0.79

00:05:52.500 gay people need jobs too.

00:05:54.400 And what better job than to work in oil and gas to create something that your friends and

00:06:01.180 neighbors need to stay alive while reaping a good salary? 1.00

00:06:04.160 You know, I have been finding myself like so perplexed as a gay guy, how the world is

00:06:13.540 shaping up right now.

00:06:15.200 And so I did an experiment.

00:06:16.800 I reached out to multiple gay friends of mine, probably about 50.

00:06:21.500 And I asked them, what do all these letters mean?

00:06:24.480 New letters, these LGBT. 0.99

00:06:27.020 And candidly, none of them knew.

00:06:28.820 And then I reached out to some of my lesbian friends and they didn't know.

00:06:34.340 So I am really worried that our movement was that was about equality.

00:06:40.260 We wanted the same rights.

00:06:41.700 So like, like I have a boyfriend now, we shacked up.

00:06:44.440 And if I choose, I want to get married.

00:06:45.800 I want that right.

00:06:46.760 But that's where my kind of activism kind of stops because I thought of the situation

00:06:53.920 where these like two guys, they sued this person, the Christian person that didn't approve

00:06:59.100 a gay marriage and didn't want to make him a wedding cake. 0.95

00:07:01.140 And people were all upset about it.

00:07:02.900 And I thought, you know what?

00:07:04.280 If there's only one place to get a wedding cake in town, then I would say that was sort

00:07:09.080 of a human rights thing.

00:07:10.000 But if you had an option to go to Costco or somewhere else to get a cake, then that is

00:07:14.320 an individual right.

00:07:15.480 So why would I want someone making me my cake that didn't support the fact that I wanted

00:07:21.880 to get married?

00:07:23.320 We've gone to the point now where it's beyond equality.

00:07:27.680 It's infringing on other people's rights.

00:07:30.580 And it is going to be a vicious pendulum that is going to come swinging back.

00:07:34.840 And the very rights of the same quality we could potentially lose.

00:07:40.720 And I think the biggest problem is, is that I'm all for, you know, you're 18 years old 0.96

00:07:45.880 and you want to get a sex change and you want to chop it off. 1.00

00:07:49.900 Go nuts. 0.99

00:07:50.920 But I don't believe anyone under 18 and frankly, 18 plus the mind is developed enough yet to 0.97

00:07:57.840 make that decision.

00:07:58.820 And you certainly don't need to take that difficult problem of trans identity and sexual orientation

00:08:07.500 and sexual identity and all that stuff that has zero to do with pipelines.

00:08:12.640 That is zero to do with anything else.

00:08:15.080 And we have gotten this society so whacked now that everything's somehow connected when

00:08:21.260 they're not.

00:08:21.760 And oil and gas, and candidly, particularly here in Fort McMurray, where you have a very

00:08:27.220 vibrant and affluent gay population that is doing very well, we need to protect oil and 1.00

00:08:33.160 gas because that is what provides the equality for everybody.

00:08:37.420 But I am very worried that this movement has gone so far that they don't even know what

00:08:42.120 they're pushing for and the pendulum is going to come back and it's not going to be ready.

00:08:45.680 You know, one of the things you've often spoken to me about is the treatment of sexual

00:08:50.200 minorities in the Middle East.

00:08:51.920 And one of the great hypocrisies of this legislation that has been thankfully struck down was that

00:08:58.000 it considered the intersection of sex and gender before approving energy projects here in Alberta, 0.93

00:09:06.660 where gay people have rights, but it never considered the intersection of sex and gender

00:09:11.420 while importing conflict oil from Algeria, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia.

00:09:17.280 That was never a consideration.

00:09:18.320 Those energy projects and that oil never had to jump through the same hoops as ours.

00:09:26.260 You know, I got into some hot water a few years ago when I made my legendary lesbian post. 0.95

00:09:33.160 But what the post meant was in Canada, lesbians are considered hot. 1.00

00:09:36.620 In Saudi Arabia, if you're a lesbian, you die. 1.00

00:09:38.840 Why are we getting oil from countries that don't think lesbians are hot? 1.00

00:09:41.840 Choose equality. 0.96

00:09:42.700 Choose Canadian oil.

00:09:43.640 And, you know, like, I really think that unless you face it head on, a problem, I don't think

00:09:57.100 people understand the seriousness of what goes on on that side of the world.

00:10:00.700 I mean, we only hear maybe 2% of it.

00:10:03.100 I know a few, you know, gay Palestinian kids who ended up going to Israel because they would have been butchered and destroyed because of their families and religion. 0.96

00:10:13.300 I mean, that's one of the most homophobic places on the earth. 0.77

00:10:16.120 And to think that we somehow are, we've lost a sense of decorum, an ability to respectfully disagree, an ability to discuss issues in a mature way.

00:10:30.820 And I'm really worried that, you know, like, we have it really good right now.

00:10:38.040 And I am scared that if we don't get some common sense back into our government and back into our politics, we're going to lose our minds.

00:10:47.500 Like, gay, or sorry, gender identity has zero to do with pipelines and oil production.

00:10:53.400 None.

00:10:53.960 That has zero to do.

00:10:54.920 When it comes to Canadian oil, well, I mean, I'm arguably one of the most successful, you know, oil sands, oil and gas activists in the country.

00:11:04.260 And I'm openly gay.

00:11:06.000 I've spoken at many rebel events and cracked a few really good gay jokes. 0.95

00:11:09.640 And I've always been treated with respect and dignity and candidly.

00:11:14.040 Like, you know, it's been an amazing experience.

00:11:16.940 So, sure, there's always things that we can do to move the needle forward.

00:11:21.280 There's always things we can do.

00:11:22.500 But my fear is, is that this wokeness that is affecting us right now, it's going to come back brutal.

00:11:31.840 And all of these people talking about stuff, if you had a terrorist attack on our soil or something like that, they would be not, I don't think they understand what oppression is.

00:11:41.980 So, I urge the world to stop punishing. 0.94

00:11:47.340 It's ridiculous.

00:11:48.200 Regardless, once again, Canada only produces 1.5% of all global emissions. 0.88

00:11:54.600 It is not peanuts, it's fractions of peanuts.

00:11:57.440 We should be celebrating our energy industry, building pipelines, building connections, doing economic reconciliation for Indigenous people in a way that has meaningful, does some business and jobs and helps Indigenous, you know, Indigenous people become, you know, business people and success stories, which we have.

00:12:18.640 We take that model, we take that model, we spread it around the country, we work on reducing our pollution, recycling more, you know, reclaiming land faster.

00:12:28.380 All of that is all in our wheelhouse, which we're doing all the time.

00:12:32.420 Gender identity and pipelines are two things that should never be connected in any form. 0.99

00:12:37.400 And, you know, I don't think we realize the damage that the true deliverables have done.

00:12:43.660 And I think we will start seeing it.

00:12:45.960 Our debt is through the roof.

00:12:48.440 I mean, it's inflation is really high.

00:12:52.180 The difference between the really rich and the poor is getting wider.

00:12:55.980 Every promise he's ever made, he hasn't kept.

00:12:59.780 I truly hope that there's a way out.

00:13:02.040 But I also hope on all sides, like, you know, in McMurray, on all issues, like, I'm actually brokering a meeting between some politicians here, some Muslims, and a couple people from the pride community to sit down and grow up and speak in a way that you can have disagreements.

00:13:21.240 And I'm happy that I think that's going to happen because all sides need to sit down, grow up, and agree to find a path forward.

00:13:32.340 You can't do that if you don't talk to your opponent.

00:13:34.300 You know, that's a really excellent point.

00:13:37.580 It's one thing that Justin Trudeau is really great at is dividing us, demonizing the other side of the debate so that you think, oh, my goodness, why would I want to sit down and talk to somebody?

00:13:48.380 I heard Justin Trudeau say on the news is a Nazi.

00:13:50.580 I don't want to talk to Nazis.

00:13:51.880 I don't want to be seen talking to Nazis.

00:13:54.260 They're not Nazis.

00:13:55.700 They're just people who believe something different than you or see the world through a different lens.

00:14:00.860 I wanted to ask you, before we move on to what happens next with C-69, because it looks like the liberals are not going to let it go, I wanted to just circle back to the woke infestation in federal legislation.

00:14:17.620 It's not just languishing in federal legislation.

00:14:20.560 You were a victim of the woke cancel culture mob.

00:14:24.480 You sort of touched on that a little bit when you talked about that post that you made way back then about human rights in the Middle East with conflict oil versus Canadian oil.

00:14:34.740 And, of course, the anti-oil side jumped on what happened to you, but so did the hypersensitive pro-oil activists.

00:14:45.720 They sort of just hung you out to dry, even though your argument was completely valid.

00:14:50.600 But you survived.

00:14:51.420 You came out the other side, didn't you?

00:14:52.620 Yeah, I guess my journey with activism has been, you know, a bit of a roller coaster, and you're seeing it again.

00:15:04.660 I actually was at a conference where I called a few people out on our side.

00:15:08.980 Good.

00:15:09.120 And it's sort of like, I'll be honest, you know, I've had plenty of time to go over that post, and, you know, and sometimes I'm like, should I have done it?

00:15:21.520 Should I have not?

00:15:22.180 50-50, like, a long-term, I think it did make a mission of, like, it got the conversation about, I mean, we talked about gender equality, you know, washrooms and trans issues in Canada. 0.98

00:15:34.840 Like, in that side of the world, like, they'll cut off your head if you're gay. 0.88

00:15:39.320 I mean, there's no kindness or hurt feelings. 0.99

00:15:43.560 It becomes very physical, and if it's not brutal beings, it's death.

00:15:48.240 I think we, on our side, have just become so, you said it when you did that video supporting me and talking about they're feeding the crocodiles, other people, the crocodiles, hoping to get eaten last.

00:16:00.400 And I think that is a huge problem.

00:16:02.660 Like, I am concerned that we are getting to a point where we're, you know, apologizing too much, and we're not saying, like, look, we, our world is the best.

00:16:13.920 We're one of the most stable countries in the world.

00:16:15.580 We have some of the best regulations, and we're doing good work here.

00:16:19.140 I think we need to celebrate that, and our side needs to be far more assertive, far more aggressive, and fight for the right, like, look at Edmonton right now, the homeless crisis.

00:16:32.640 Look at Calgary.

00:16:33.320 Look at this country and all of these encampments.

00:16:35.960 I mean, we had a little bit out of Nick Murray, but we're pretty affluent here, and we can handle things a little bit easier, and we're able to pivot and make decisions.

00:16:43.380 But, like, I don't think people understand what happens if they do succeed and they shut down our oil and gas industry.

00:16:51.580 You're going to have mass poverty.

00:16:54.060 You're going to have mass people not sure what to do, homelessness, crime, violence.

00:16:59.760 We have a really good thing going here, and we need to protect it because it could be the end of our civilization as we know it in this country, and you're already seeing small signs of that.

00:17:13.880 I mean, in Alberta, you can still come get a good job and own a home at an affordable rate.

00:17:19.900 You can't do that in major parts of the country anymore.

00:17:23.000 And I don't think people understand, like, the dream, the Canadian-American dream, that dream of, you know, having a better life for your family, that's at stake.

00:17:33.800 And it's to destroy an energy industry, to destroy a sector of the country that helps so many people when all of the work we do as Canadians will make this much difference, I'm blown away by it.

00:17:50.080 However, you know, I'm not going to give up.

00:17:52.520 I'm firing the bus tour up again.

00:17:54.260 I'm headed to Ottawa.

00:17:55.160 The magazine's exploding.

00:17:56.980 I have been meeting a lot of people in Calgary.

00:17:59.940 I'm taking a far more aggressive approach.

00:18:02.340 I have a lot more confidence in myself.

00:18:04.760 I'm meeting with people.

00:18:06.660 I used to be kind of soft and not soft anymore, but I'm also trying to be more strategic so I don't run into a major scandal.

00:18:13.620 It can derail me.

00:18:14.880 I don't think it derailed you.

00:18:15.940 But I'm glad that you're listing all the things that you're doing as part of your activism because it sounds like the liberals are not done with their No More Pipelines law.

00:18:26.360 They said the current version of the law has been struck down as an unconstitutional overreach.

00:18:32.820 Great.

00:18:33.600 But the liberals are committing to keeping the law but just adding amendments to make it constitutional.

00:18:42.720 So we're going to need Robbie Picard doing all the things that Robbie Picard does more than ever.

00:18:51.560 I'm going to – so I'm going to Ottawa.

00:18:54.020 I'm going to be spending quite a bit of time there.

00:18:56.140 I'm going to be doing a lot more interviews.

00:18:58.440 The one thing, the polls are shifting.

00:19:01.680 You can see that the conservatives are in majority territory.

00:19:05.900 They've been there for a couple months now.

00:19:07.140 Here's my message to Canada.

00:19:10.420 It's real simple.

00:19:11.640 When you live in a big city, it's hard to understand how much oil and gas you actually use.

00:19:17.740 But you use actually more just existing in the city, even if you're recycling, even if you've got your blue box and you take your bio thing at the cafeteria and you throw it in there.

00:19:29.460 Oil and gas is why these cities exist and a strong economy in Alberta, rural Alberta, in Fort McMurray, in Grand Prairie.

00:19:39.840 That helps maintain the gigantic cities like Toronto and Calgary.

00:19:47.540 And I think, bluntly, you can have a better life.

00:19:52.460 I mean, I know so many people in Toronto right now that are basically existing just to pay for rent on something that they will never get ahead.

00:20:01.380 Well, I would say there is not a mass emergency for us to give up our energy industry.

00:20:08.600 And you should fight for it because, you know, no matter what happens to Justin Trudeau, he's worth, you know, millions of dollars as a world celebrity.

00:20:18.460 He's going to be okay.

00:20:19.740 But when you can't afford a place to live and all these things that you take for granted now, or if you're living in Toronto, you barely have, but you still kind of have, that's at risk with this insane inflation, this insane debt, all of it.

00:20:36.720 I mean, it's, I was watching Christina Freeland talk with Pierre Polly and I'm just like, this has been, I've never, you know, in my life seen anything like this.

00:20:46.500 I've seen Mal Rooney and Kretchen and I've seen, you know, the fall of the Conservatives when, you know, Kim Campbell had two seats, but I've never seen a government so unaccountable for their actions.

00:21:00.980 And you've got to give them credit.

00:21:02.480 Man, they can spin.

00:21:03.720 Yeah.

00:21:03.900 I mean, he said you'd have a balanced budget.

00:21:06.220 He's never had a balanced budget.

00:21:07.520 We have massive debt.

00:21:09.660 And sure, you can make the argument that out of the G7, our economy is doing better.

00:21:14.760 Sure, you can make that argument, but that's not good enough.

00:21:18.900 We need to live in a country that is building the future for the next generation to ensure that they can have the same things and this high debt, high inflation.

00:21:30.140 And I mean, when you talk to people about this carbon tax, like people, if they don't drive a car, they don't, they're just so farming and groceries.

00:21:42.320 They just don't get it.

00:21:44.020 Like they don't understand that that crop has to be swathed and then it has to go through a combine and it's got to go to the granary to the process, a car bill.

00:21:54.140 And then it's got to get shipped and it gets made into stuff.

00:21:56.480 Like there's all of these steps before it shows up at the grocery and each and every one of those steps is now has a tax on it, a tax that is going to make zero different in the climate of the world.

00:22:09.280 And that is, sure, you can make the argument that the grocery stores, you know, they were profiting off of inflation and you can have that big summit.

00:22:17.160 But the heart of it is the sheer cost.

00:22:20.560 I know so many people whose utilities have tripled.

00:22:24.920 Then you take an interest rate goes up on a mortgage.

00:22:28.260 Like if you didn't have like a secured, a locked in rate, well, now all of a sudden you're paying 900 bucks a month more, a thousand bucks, 1400 bucks more.

00:22:36.240 It's crippling people.

00:22:37.660 And that's something that I think this government has really screwed us on.

00:22:41.800 So tell us what are you doing next and how people can support the work that you do, because you do this mostly just as a labor of love for the industry and for the people of Alberta and Canada extended.

00:22:58.040 Tell us how people can get involved.

00:23:01.300 So I'm actually going to send everyone to oilandgasworld.ca.

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00:23:52.960 I mean, we still have our Facebook page.

00:23:55.360 So that's a good thing.

00:23:57.620 I mean, that's the other thing I want to talk about.

00:23:59.000 I mean, what the hell happened there?

00:24:00.920 I like that.

00:24:03.140 That is such a horrible thing that our prime minister did to this, to this country.

00:24:09.960 And I can't believe it that you got to give him credit, man.

00:24:14.820 Like he can play dirty with a smile on his face.

00:24:18.600 But to have it, I mean, all the stuff going on across the world right now, and you can't freely share it if you're on Facebook or Instagram, it's wrong.

00:24:30.960 Yeah.

00:24:31.420 You know, and it's wrong.

00:24:33.320 You know, he did it.

00:24:34.540 Now, LinkedIn's exploding and there's some beauty there.

00:24:37.620 Yeah, I mean, there are ways around it and you have to be careful and, you know, people are flooding over to Twitter because that seems to be where, or whatever it's called now, X, because that seems to be where the news is unfiltered.

00:24:48.460 But yeah, and it did blow up in the mainstream media's faces because they thought, okay, great, Justin Trudeau is going to extort big tech so that big tech pays us.

00:25:00.660 And as it turns out, big tech just turned off sharing.

00:25:03.800 And then the advertising dollars subsequently fell for the mainstream media because their reach was just completely limited.

00:25:12.500 So that's what they get for trying to extort the paper boy to pay the paper company.

00:25:17.000 Well, and I think the thing too is I don't think people realize that symbiotic relationship because Facebook is actually very personal and it's almost an extension of yourself, right?

00:25:31.040 So I would make the argument that social media saved mainstream media in a lot of ways because it was able to make them more relevant.

00:25:42.640 Like in McMurray, we had, like we had four murders in the last month.

00:25:47.720 I mean, there was a bunch of stuff going on.

00:25:49.500 Oh yeah, we had a crazy time.

00:25:51.380 There was a live active shooter in one neighborhood and he got shot, killed by the police.

00:25:55.820 And people are trying to share information and it was impossible because like it was, you know, it was a very, he changed the dynamics.

00:26:08.100 So like, I really, truly hope that when Pierre Polyev is prime minister, he keeps his word and he gets, he makes it, gets rid of the carbon tax.

00:26:16.620 One and two fixes this, this bill in regards to social media, because, you know, it's, it's kind of scary.

00:26:28.860 Like, I mean, you got to give Truro credit. 0.98

00:26:31.660 I think a lot of people treat him as if he's stupid because he's sort of, you know, kind of that ditzy-ness. 0.99

00:26:36.620 He's not. 1.00

00:26:38.640 Well, but he's, I mean, you got it?

00:26:39.900 Like he's slick and he, I mean.

00:26:42.260 I think he's greasy.

00:26:42.900 I don't know.

00:26:43.540 He's greasy.

00:26:44.520 I wouldn't call him smart. 0.97

00:26:45.780 I'd say he's a sly.

00:26:49.720 Can I ask you a question? 0.94

00:26:50.960 How the hell did they manage to get a Nazi, a standing ovation in the House of Commons?

00:26:59.620 You know what?

00:27:00.300 I think a lot of it has to do with exactly what we're talking about.

00:27:02.820 And that is just the rewriting of history.

00:27:07.340 Those who control the news, control the narrative.

00:27:11.160 And a lot of people at this point, you know, they don't know or don't care that the Russians were on our side.

00:27:20.960 During World War II.

00:27:22.540 And there's this visceral hate of all things Russian.

00:27:26.180 Not Russian government.

00:27:27.880 But all things Russian right now in the mainstream ethos. 0.91

00:27:32.980 It's just the in thing to do is just hate a Russian. 0.98

00:27:37.320 And they're whipped into this frenzy so much that you could hate all things Russian so much.

00:27:46.340 That you forget that they fought the Nazis with us.

00:27:52.040 And actually probably paid a greater cost than many allied countries to do it.

00:27:57.540 I think that's where it is.

00:27:59.040 Like, they're so, people are so inundated with hate Russia, hate Russia, hate Russia.

00:28:03.360 That all of a sudden, Russia to you right now is worse than the Nazis. 0.94

00:28:13.060 I just find, like, the last bit here, like, that is a massive embarrassment.

00:28:21.300 And, like, you would think, because, like, I know that, I mean, that's how you got East and West Germany.

00:28:29.860 I don't know the history of how that war happened, right?

00:28:33.460 How does someone in the House of Commons on that level not have an instant flag?

00:28:38.720 Like, and that's kind of what I want to get to.

00:28:41.700 It's like, I have a marketing company, okay?

00:28:43.480 And sometimes I get frustrated when one of my teams, like, there's some graphic that we post for a client that they didn't want a year ago.

00:28:52.360 It somehow comes back, right?

00:28:54.540 And I'm like, why are we looking at this graphic again?

00:28:57.540 How on that level of the highest speaker of the House, and that's a very good position.

00:29:02.240 I mean, like, they get treated like rock stars.

00:29:05.920 How on earth does that, and that's, he's not a young guy.

00:29:10.360 He's not, you know, he's not a, he's older.

00:29:14.260 How do they miss that?

00:29:15.860 Like, I mean, I'm not even going to say it was deliberate.

00:29:18.460 I miss that sheer incompetence.

00:29:21.140 I talked to one of my MP about it yesterday.

00:29:23.500 Now, I get that part.

00:29:24.640 Like, hey, stand up.

00:29:26.200 Like, I get it.

00:29:27.400 Like, you know, like, you clap, and when you're standing there, you don't know what you're an MP.

00:29:32.940 And you don't know what the speaker's going to present to you.

00:29:35.780 And it happens, there has to be some sort of bipartisan niceness.

00:29:41.260 Yeah, you know, I get that.

00:29:42.780 But I'm still, like, just shocked by it.

00:29:46.280 Like, what is going on there that they don't have that sense?

00:29:50.180 And one of my friends who reported at CDC, I was talking to him, and I just called him out, like, on a friend level.

00:29:57.500 And I said, like, what do you think?

00:30:00.340 And part of it's just they've been in power so long that they've lost that sense of, like, everything seems to work out.

00:30:06.840 I mean, you tell me one crisis that Trudeau has not come out on top of.

00:30:10.600 We just had Joni Rainbow here at Fort McMurray at the Northeast Aboriginal Business Association's event.

00:30:18.420 And, you know what I mean?

00:30:19.400 Like, I mean, you can make the argument.

00:30:21.140 I mean, he's still there.

00:30:22.740 I mean, SNC Lavely didn't get investigated.

00:30:24.800 Like, you got, like, it's insane.

00:30:27.580 Like, he, orange juice got resignations from conservatives.

00:30:33.380 Yeah.

00:30:33.880 And I'll tell you why.

00:30:35.260 Part of the reason Trudeau is still in power, again, we've wandered way off topic.

00:30:41.380 But one of the reasons I think Trudeau is still in power is because of the difference between conservatives and liberals.

00:30:46.920 And we see Alberta is a great manifestation of this.

00:30:52.000 We have zero tolerance for BS from our own leaders.

00:30:56.680 From our, we don't subscribe to tribalism. 1.00

00:30:59.660 If you are telling us you're a conservative and then you don't act conservative, we're going to show your ass the door. 0.99

00:31:06.760 Ask Jason Kenney. 0.99

00:31:08.360 Ask Alison Redford. 0.55

00:31:10.520 Ask Daniel Smith 1.0, not Daniel Smith 2.0.

00:31:14.320 You know, this is what we do.

00:31:17.980 We fracture parties apart.

00:31:20.780 We will blow up the entire conservative movement if we think our leadership is not being conservative enough.

00:31:26.280 Look at how the Wild Rose was formed.

00:31:28.380 Look at how the reform was formed.

00:31:30.100 As conservatives, we are not tribalists to a leader.

00:31:34.020 We're tribalists to ideas.

00:31:36.300 And if our leader is suddenly incompatible with our values, we will get rid of him.

00:31:40.960 Even if it means languishing in the wilderness for four years like we did or sitting in opposition for a while until we get our acts together.

00:31:51.260 But liberals are tribalists to the leader and to power at all costs.

00:31:56.300 That's how, that's my working theory because no matter what, people are going to vote for Justin Trudeau because they vote for liberal red.

00:32:05.760 That's it.

00:32:06.840 And conservatives don't vote for conservative blue.

00:32:09.500 They vote for conservative ideas.

00:32:12.660 And I think that's the difference.

00:32:15.940 That's why Justin Trudeau remains in power, hasn't been thrown out by his own party, even though his poll numbers are plummeting.

00:32:23.960 And it's because their ideology is power and loyalty to the boss and ours is to something else.

00:32:31.880 All right, well, there you go.

00:32:37.960 On that note, Robbie, thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:32:41.580 I can't wait to get up to Fort McMurray to see you.

00:32:43.500 I know I was planning to do it all summer, but I think I'm going to have to drive Winter Roads to see you.

00:32:49.520 And, you know, I just can't wait to see what you do next.

00:32:52.480 And just thanks for the advocacy work, advocacy work that you do on behalf of families like mine and, you know, hundreds of thousands of other families just like mine all across the country.

00:33:04.060 Thank you very much.

00:33:04.880 Thanks, Robbie.

00:33:12.520 We've come to the portion of the show where we invite your viewer feedback.

00:33:15.800 You see, unlike the mainstream media, and look, I know I say this every week, so regular viewers, you're probably getting sick of this.

00:33:21.500 But, you know, we pick up new people all the time.

00:33:24.040 So I should tell you, we leave the comment section on, and I want to know what you think about the work that we do here at Rebel News.

00:33:31.400 Because without you, really, there is no Rebel News.

00:33:33.920 Because we don't rely on Justin Trudeau to help us keep the lights on.

00:33:38.640 We count on you at home.

00:33:40.960 It's the reason I give out my email address right now.

00:33:43.200 It's sheila at rebelnews.com.

00:33:45.320 Put gun show letters in the subject line so I know exactly why you're reaching out to me.

00:33:49.540 And let me know what you thought about today's show with Robbie.

00:33:52.980 Now, there are other ways to get a hold of me and to get your viewer feedback on the show.

00:33:58.540 One of the ways is to leave a comment wherever you're watching us.

00:34:02.740 For example, if you're watching the free version of the show on YouTube or Rumble,

00:34:06.420 sometimes I go poking around over there to see what you people who sit through a couple of ads are thinking about the show.

00:34:14.220 And I got some viewer feedback over on YouTube on last week's show that I did with Chris Sims,

00:34:21.580 my friend from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:34:24.320 And we were talking about just how the government is destroying the news industry

00:34:31.600 by contaminating it with government money and government regulation.

00:34:37.420 And so, Lynn Richards, 795 on YouTube writes,

00:34:44.640 Great talk.

00:34:45.220 I agree.

00:34:45.620 Government ought not to be involved with the press.

00:34:47.580 It's just too scary.

00:34:48.560 We've seen how the government easily lies to us.

00:34:51.360 So, to not have the ability to voice opposition and to have debate takes away freedom for sure.

00:34:57.180 Yeah.

00:34:58.240 Yeah.

00:34:58.400 I mean, when all the news is government approved,

00:35:02.160 then who is holding the government to account on behalf of the people?

00:35:05.980 I guess.

00:35:07.040 Like us.

00:35:07.960 Pretty much.

00:35:09.300 That's it.

00:35:09.920 Let's keep going.

00:35:11.140 I'm quite capable of thinking for myself and very adept at following my instincts.

00:35:15.420 So, I too do not need government no matter which party dictating what I can and cannot do, hear, speak, etc.

00:35:23.260 Side note, I wish you would use another word instead of using euthanize when it comes to government shutting down a news outlet

00:35:32.680 because euthanizing is kind and a compassionate act and the government is not that.

00:35:39.180 Well, I'm going to push back on you a little bit.

00:35:41.600 Euthanizing animals, that might be a sign of compassion, but euthanizing people, that's a sign of eugenics. 0.98

00:35:46.720 And so, I would suggest that what the government did through regulation with the Sun News Network,

00:35:57.400 leading to the demise of Canada's only conservative cable news channel, was euthanize it.

00:36:06.300 It was eugenics. 0.97

00:36:07.360 They were cleansing the airwaves of this conservative news outlet that they didn't like.

00:36:15.360 So, I guess our disagreement here is really not a disagreement at all.

00:36:21.720 It's just, I use the word euthanize because I actually see euthanization as an act of bad and not an act of compassion.

00:36:30.720 So, I guess we disagree on tone, but that's it.

00:36:37.420 And I also use that to describe what the government did to the Freedom Convoy through the invocation of the Emergencies Act.

00:36:44.240 I say they euthanized the protest, which is to end the protest to make sure that there was only one kind of protest in this country,

00:36:56.800 and that's a left-wing protest that the government listens to.

00:37:00.140 Although, on the flip side, we can do it your way.

00:37:03.640 Let's talk about it as an act of compassion.

00:37:05.660 I guess the government put itself out of its misery by having that pesky little upstart conservative network called the Sun News Network bothering it and holding it to account.

00:37:20.340 So, there's that too.

00:37:22.100 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:37:23.560 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:37:24.780 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:37:27.560 And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:37:57.560 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - October 19, 2023

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Court tosses Trudeau's 'no more pipelines' law

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