Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Daily Wire's Knowles CPAC speech sends the mainstream media into a fake news frenzy

00:00:00.000 Michael Knowles of The Daily Wire gave a speech over the weekend where he said that

00:00:04.340 no matter how much surgery is involved, men cannot be women and women cannot be men. 0.64

00:00:08.780 And so now the liberal media is accusing him of, I guess, being literally Hitler?

00:00:15.940 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:30.000 The problem with transgenderism is not that it is inappropriate for children under the age of

00:00:41.300 nine. The problem with transgenderism is that it is not true. The problem with transgenderism 0.99

00:00:47.580 is that it puts forward a delusional vision of human nature that denies the reality and

00:00:52.940 importance of sexual difference and complementarity. The problem with transgenderism 1.00

00:00:58.260 is that its acceptance at any level necessarily entails the complete destruction of women's 0.98

00:01:05.900 bathrooms, women's sports, all of the specific rights and spaces that women currently have for 1.00

00:01:11.980 themselves. There can be no middle way in dealing with transgenderism. It's all or nothing. If 1.00

00:01:19.480 transgenderism is true, if men really can become women, then it is true for everybody of all ages.

00:01:28.260 If transgenderism is false, as it is, if men and women really are different, as we are, 0.94

00:01:35.060 then it is false for everybody too. And if it is false, then we should not indulge it,

00:01:41.640 especially since that indulgence requires taking away the rights and customs of so many people.

00:01:47.900 If it is false, then for the good of society, transgenderism must be eradicated from public life 1.00

00:01:55.860 entirely. The whole preposterous ideology at every level. Have I made myself clear?

00:02:03.900 That is Michael Knowles from his Monday Daily Wire show, reading verbatim from the speech he gave

00:02:08.880 at CPAC over the weekend. He calls for compassion for the transgender community, but he also calls for

00:02:15.800 a return to objective reality. Now, you might disagree with Knowles' viewpoint, or maybe you do agree with

00:02:20.960 his viewpoint, but you don't quite like how he said it, or maybe the fact that he said it out loud.

00:02:26.120 But you cannot, in good conscience, say that he said anything genocidal in there. But that didn't

00:02:34.740 stop Rolling Stone, Huffington Post, and Yahoo for saying that he called for genocide, that he called 1.00

00:02:40.460 for the murder of people who identify as transgender. I mean, it's insane to publish a headline like that.

00:02:47.140 But they let their articles and their malicious headlines stand until Knowles threatened them

00:02:54.320 with libel. You see, these companies have zero self-awareness whatsoever. They missed the irony

00:03:02.500 of them critiquing Knowles' desire to return to the truth by lying about him. They lied about him

00:03:10.560 while he was saying, you know what we need to do, guys? Go back to the truth. And these media companies

00:03:17.020 were so brazen in their lying that they lied about something that was captured on video for the

00:03:23.220 world to see so that the world could fact check the lies in real time. Now, one of the few people

00:03:29.200 who actually got the story right the first time around and reported on what Knowles said accurately

00:03:36.460 was my friend Kennedy Hall from LifeSite. He's not been on my show before, but I've been on his.

00:03:42.080 And while I'm annoyed at the lies of the mainstream media, it's a really good opportunity to invite

00:03:46.140 Kennedy onto my show to discuss the mainstream media's absolute apoplexy about somebody who

00:03:52.200 might disagree with them on the issue of transgenderism. We're also discussing the

00:03:56.240 treatment of a Christian pastor in Calgary, Derek Reimer. To learn more about his story,

00:04:00.300 go to SavePastorDerek.com. At that website, you can make a donation to offset his legal fees.

00:04:06.540 Reimer was just released from jail after the city of Calgary criminalized disagreeing with drag queens

00:04:12.340 who read books to small children at the local municipal library. Is there some sort of

00:04:18.180 correlation between men in cross-sex burlesque costumes and childhood literacy rates that I am

00:04:25.540 just missing somewhere? Can anybody help me with that? Anyway, here's my interview with Kennedy. Take a

00:04:33.320 listen. Joining me now is somebody new to, I think, viewers of my show. But if you follow my Twitter

00:04:45.620 account, you know that I quite frequently interact with him. It's Kennedy Hall from LifeSite, but he's

00:04:50.320 also an author, and we'll get to that at the end of the show. Thanks for agreeing to this interview,

00:04:54.440 Kennedy. Well, thanks, Sheila. Back when I had a radio show, you came on as a guest a few times,

00:04:59.040 so it was my pleasure to return the favor. That's great. Thank you so much. Now, you write a lot

00:05:04.500 about things happening in the culture wars, because I think that's really the battleground

00:05:12.080 for humanity. And one of the things that I found really fascinating over the last couple days,

00:05:19.640 and I'll get you to give us the backstory, you'll do a better job than I will, but Michael Knowles

00:05:24.760 of the Daily Wire was speaking at CPAC. And he gave a very reasonable speech. And he was accused

00:05:34.360 very quickly of genocide, literally genocide by the mainstream media. You were one of the few people

00:05:42.420 on the entire planet who got the story right the first time around. So I'll shut up. You tell us

00:05:47.820 exactly what happened. Sure. So what's the CPAC stand for? Conservative Political Action Coalition,

00:05:54.700 I think. At the CPAC conference down in Washington area, Michael Knowles gave one of the speeches on

00:06:01.500 Saturday. And actually, I had to report on the thing all day. I was working a Saturday, and I watched a

00:06:08.480 bunch of speeches. And I have to say his was the best. It was far and away the best. Just very well

00:06:15.980 scripted, very articulate, very packed a lot of punch. Anyway, his speech was essentially

00:06:22.860 conservatives, okay? You can't keep shaking hands with the sexual revolution and think you can remain

00:06:31.440 conservative. So he started off the speech talking about, you know, he said, it's like conservatives

00:06:36.500 are always defending something that liberals were defending 10 years ago. And he said, you know,

00:06:42.400 so in the 1970s, it was like, oh, those bra burning feminists saying they don't need a man 1.00

00:06:48.140 are crazy. And then a few years later, well, that's fine. But they'll tell you that sexual 0.60

00:06:53.740 revolution stuff. Now that's crazy. And then a few years later, he said, well, that sexual

00:06:58.740 revolution stuff, that's, that's okay. But that redefinition of marriage stuff, now that's crazy.

00:07:03.280 And then a few years later, it was, well, that's fine. But this transgenderism stuff, now that's 1.00

00:07:07.880 crazy. And he says, now it's, well, trans and kids in grade three is bad, but grade four is fine, 0.88

00:07:13.480 you know? And this is just something, sadly, we see with conservative leaders, I mean, especially

00:07:17.820 ours in Canada, you know? And he said, the thing is about the transgender issue

00:07:22.660 is it's really just a matter of reality. You know, I get, you know, you and I are both Catholics and

00:07:30.760 okay, we, we believe traditional Catholic beliefs on sexuality, but I understand the

00:07:35.460 logic of how, you know, somebody can still be a very traditionally minded person, but

00:07:40.640 maybe disagree on certain aspects of how one ought to live in their personal life. I get

00:07:44.840 that. But the trans thing, it's medical. Like it's just, you know, you just, you are a guy

00:07:56.080 or you're not, you know, it's not very complicated. It's not an ideology. It shouldn't

00:08:00.180 be. This is very, it's like, you have two, two legs and two arms. You have certain

00:08:04.040 genitalia. You don't, I mean, these are very basic things. And he said, this is the sort

00:08:09.920 of battleground where conservatives have to stand firm. And he said, you know, of all

00:08:17.080 the things conservatives cave on, the one thing in America they didn't cave on was life

00:08:22.180 and they won. And he says, so stop caving on everything. And then he finally said, and

00:08:28.080 then this is the line that was the title of our article, because I knew it was going to

00:08:31.680 be the one that would get the clicks. But he said, you know, transgenderism must be eradicated 1.00

00:08:38.160 from public life. Now, clearly, if you watch the speech, he did not say any persons had to

00:08:45.000 be eradicated. He was talking about the philosophy of transgenderism. This idea that you can deny 0.96

00:08:53.280 reality and that you can encourage children do things that harm themselves in a perpetual

00:09:02.360 way by having surgeries and so forth. He said, this is insane. Everyone agrees that it's insane

00:09:08.600 and it just has to stop. And that's what he was referring to.

00:09:13.220 And yeah, it's the likes of Rolling Stone. I think if you search for the Rolling Stone article,

00:09:17.920 you'll get their old headline first. But if you click through, it's the we just got threatened

00:09:24.820 with a lawsuit headline that actually pops up. And they wrote it up saying CPAC speaker calls for

00:09:30.900 transgender people to be eradicated. Now, you can listen to his speech. It's on YouTube. He read 1.00

00:09:36.320 from his speech on I think it was Tuesday's Michael Knowles show. He just read his speech and he said,

00:09:42.340 I choose my words very carefully. I didn't say that. And he, for once, it's nice to see,

00:09:49.040 although maybe it's a little more difficult in the United States to threaten people with libel lawsuits.

00:09:53.600 Yeah, I don't know.

00:09:54.340 Because the bar is so high there. I think, you know, First Amendment country, I get it.

00:09:58.400 But he threatened them with a lawsuit. And that's refreshing to see because it follows the theme 0.56

00:10:05.420 of his speech. Fight back for truth in all aspects of your life, which he did. You know,

00:10:12.820 he saw these hit pieces roll in and he said, you know what, you better fix that because this is

00:10:18.080 libel. And they very quickly did. But he was written up as some sort of genocidal maniac,

00:10:25.120 like the pole pot of the American conservative Christian right. But that's not at all what he said.

00:10:32.760 No, it's not. I, I can relate. I released a book about masculinity back in 2020. And I say in it,

00:10:41.900 effeminacy, which means being an unvirtuous and soft man, that's what it means, must be eradicated.

00:10:47.180 And people said, you called for the eradication of all gay men. And I was like, what? Anyway,

00:10:52.700 so I've been through this. I was literally one of the critiques. The left, they don't have any

00:10:58.220 arguments. They have to, they have to resort to your literally Hitler. They have nothing else. 0.61

00:11:02.760 So, but it's interesting that Noel's talking about this idea in his speech. I don't know if you saw,

00:11:10.300 he reported on his show about Naib Bukele, the, the president of El Salvador. And there was a,

00:11:18.900 a section of a press conference of his that kind of went viral. And he talked about why he was

00:11:25.160 throwing all of the, um, criminals in jail, the way he was, which just seemed like they're in jail

00:11:32.240 because they're criminals. Um, but he's basically, and I mean, El Salvador was one of the most corrupt

00:11:37.600 gang ridden earth, those Mara Salvatruchas and all these sorts of gangs. And, um, they basically

00:11:43.400 run the country and he's, I can't believe he hasn't been Epstein'd yet because he took a crusade

00:11:47.880 against it. And, um, but he used an analogy. He said, after the Nazis were in charge in Germany,

00:11:55.380 the country of Germany cleansed Nazism from the country. And he says they were unrelenting. 0.58

00:12:01.960 Uh, they literally broke, they, they didn't dig up the graves, but if someone had a tombstone with

00:12:07.520 a Nazi symbol on it, they had took down the tombstone and put a new one up. Uh, you know,

00:12:11.680 if you, if you spray a swastika on the train station or something, it's like, you're in jail

00:12:16.200 for like five years, like not even a chance of a defense, you know, there's just, it might sound

00:12:20.400 harsh, but the point is, is that there's just a certain disorder that's so, uh, it's such a disease

00:12:26.680 in a culture, uh, that the state exists for a reason. And it's to ensure the common welfare and

00:12:32.500 the public and the public good. And this thing has to be eradicated. Um, and he said, gang stuff is

00:12:38.460 like that in our country, it's destroying the country. It's destroying families, destroying

00:12:42.920 lives. You know, we have to go nuclear on it. There is no other option. And I think Knowles

00:12:48.740 was referring to that mentality of, again, people are going to choose to live the way they want in

00:12:55.060 their personal life. What he's saying is all, all, you know, all, um, shadows of this must be removed

00:13:03.480 from public life because it's actually bad for the human race as a whole.

00:13:08.980 Yeah. I, I don't, you know, I'm, I try not to turn the show into Sheila's Catholic catechism hour,

00:13:17.140 um, you know, but you shouldn't have invited me on then. Well, but at the same time, I lead with my

00:13:23.280 chin. I always tell people, unlike the CBC, I want my bias to be clear to the viewer. And I think

00:13:28.860 they're smart too. They can see right through it. Um, so I think even people who are not like me,

00:13:34.160 who don't see the world to a very specific worldview, they can believe in objective truth.

00:13:40.220 And like, like you said, people can choose to live their lives. However, they see fit

00:13:44.920 in their private lives or even in, you know, in their lives, but it is objective truth that no

00:13:53.480 matter the amount of medical procedures, uh, man is a man and a woman is a woman. And however, 0.69

00:14:00.300 we alter the outward appearance, it doesn't change the biological reality of that individual

00:14:07.020 and to tell someone otherwise is unkind and cruel.

00:14:12.140 It's also like, you know, you and I were talking about this quickly before we came on the air.

00:14:17.580 How did this happen so fast? Like, so I, I was a teacher. I was subsequently canceled. I haven't

00:14:23.600 actually gone public with the story yet all the way, but I was reprimanded by the Ontario

00:14:27.000 college of teachers for my Catholic beliefs. I have it on recording. Uh, and I taught in a

00:14:31.380 Catholic school anyway. Um, but, uh, Alexander'd you. Well, it was, yeah, it was like, um, well,

00:14:39.060 it's like what Peterson's going through right now with the, um, psychology board. Yeah. I was told my

00:14:44.680 Catholic beliefs were abusive to students. That was literally what they said anyway. So, um,

00:14:50.100 uh, but I remember teaching this grade 12 class in 2015, 2016, and I loved this class was a great class.

00:14:56.640 And it was a religion class. And I, there was that video that went viral. Remember that video

00:15:02.840 college kids say the darndest things. It was like one of the first, uh, videos about the transgender 0.99

00:15:08.880 ideology was from the family policy Institute of Washington or something. Went around to college

00:15:13.620 campuses, you know, okay. Can I identify as a man? Sure. Okay. Can I identify as a, as a six or a six,

00:15:19.860 but he was a, he was a guy. Can I identify as a woman? Sure. Can I identify as a six foot five woman?

00:15:24.340 Well, no, you can't really do that. Can I identify as a six foot five Chinese woman? Well, 1.00

00:15:28.380 that's too far. And he was trying to get to the point of, okay, what, by what standard? And, um,

00:15:33.820 I had this debate with my class. I showed my class. No wonder I got reprimanded. Um,

00:15:38.180 they loved it. They had a wonderful debate. And the sentiment in the class was not this crazy

00:15:44.960 woke thing you would expect from a 17 or 18 year old now. And this was only eight years ago.

00:15:49.020 And, but we watched it as educators filter into the school and be pushed down our throat. And you

00:15:56.460 just realize, listen, kids are indoctrinated for better, for worse, you know, propaganda to go back

00:16:03.960 to our Catholicism, it literally means a propagation of belief. So propaganda is bad. If what you're

00:16:10.200 propagating is bad, propaganda is good. If what you're propagating is true. And the propaganda

00:16:17.060 propaganda that's being thrown at these kids is just demonstrably evil. They are doing things to

00:16:23.720 harm their bodies. I went to the March for life last year. I saw David Menzies there in Ottawa and

00:16:29.120 these poor kids, it was broke my heart. You know, these 16 year old kids and they've cut their breasts

00:16:34.780 off and stuff and they're not wearing shirts because they're a guy now and they're just out there. And

00:16:39.360 it's like, it's so tragic and you don't get there. It just didn't exist the way it didn't exist 10 years

00:16:47.140 ago. It's because it's being taught to the kids. And again, if a person grows up and they make a

00:16:53.920 decision to do something that I think is wrong, this is called living in a society. It is what it is,

00:16:59.100 but you don't get to teach things to children that harm them forever. And that's the problem.

00:17:05.900 Yeah. I had a friend who used to look at kids who suddenly caught this social contagion and she

00:17:17.720 would look at them and say, you know, we have to have compassion. These kids are future suicides

00:17:21.620 if we don't do something. And really that's what it is because there will come a time where they

00:17:26.560 will realize that they've been misled by everybody they trusted. So that just the extreme sense of

00:17:34.340 betrayal and the realization of what they've done to their bodies. I don't know how you come back

00:17:41.800 from that. And there's the whole other side. You have a daughter, I've got a daughter, a couple of

00:17:47.200 daughters. This idea that men are women changes the world they live in for the worse. My daughter is

00:17:59.240 an elite level rugby player. The day that she has to square off against a boy in the ruck is the last

00:18:07.080 game she ever plays after she's worked her whole life. And that's just my daughter. I mean, this sort

00:18:14.820 of thing is robbing opportunity from hardworking girls all over the world. And the feminists are like 1.00

00:18:21.480 this. Yeah. Yeah. It's, uh, again, you don't have to be religious. It's just about the natural law.

00:18:31.000 Yeah. You know, there are just, you know, uh, if you say something's right or you say something's

00:18:36.840 wrong, okay, you're appealing to a standard that just is there. You know, it's like the constitution

00:18:40.420 of the United States. You know, these truths are self-evident. There's just certain things that

00:18:43.820 are self-evident. It is self-evident that men and women are different. It is self-evident that not only 0.51

00:18:50.100 are they different physiologically, but they have certain predispositions that are feminine and 0.87

00:18:53.980 certain predispositions that are masculine. They share a lot, but some of them are unique.

00:18:58.300 Um, and we can't eradicate these. We can't, you know, ironically, Michael Knowles saying we have to

00:19:03.940 eradicate this ideology from society. He's literally just saying the photo negative of what the leftists

00:19:10.300 are saying, because they'll say things all the time. You know, we have to destroy, we have to eradicate

00:19:17.400 white, white privilege or whatever, right? Pick the thing. And it's like, that's insane.

00:19:21.820 You know? So I think Michael knows is correct, but if you're using the same method, you can't be mad at

00:19:26.600 the guy for using the same, you know, for using the opposite. And you mentioned these kids that

00:19:31.420 are abused or these kids that are future suicides and stuff. This is a sad reality as well. And I taught

00:19:36.860 in the high school with a thousand kids and I've taught elementary school. If I think of the dozen or

00:19:42.640 so kids that were in the school that sort of gotten into the gender stuff, almost all of them

00:19:48.420 were from disordered, broken and abused homes. I can't, I actually think all the ones I'm thinking

00:19:53.400 of, I can't think of one kid who came from, you know, a quote unquote, like, you know, white middle

00:20:00.560 class home. That was everything was hunky dory intact families. I'm sure there are. I'm just saying,

00:20:05.600 I can't think of a single one. Um, it was almost always kids who came from homes where there was 0.94

00:20:14.320 a fatherhood problem, a drug problem, multiple dads sort of thing, extreme poverty. And

00:20:23.320 there has got to be a predatory nature to how these people are going after these kids.

00:20:29.680 What's with the great drag queen story hours? Like, can we just, I mean, I know you guys talk about it.

00:20:34.880 We talk about a life site. This is nothing new to us, but my goodness, how do we get to the point

00:20:41.180 where, you know, I've got five children and we've got a library a hundred meters from our house.

00:20:47.060 And luckily we're in a small town. Nothing kind of woke has happened there yet,

00:20:49.640 but how are we at the point? Yeah. That I'm like, my wife wants to take kids to the library

00:20:57.220 and I'm like, we need to double check if a naked man is going to dress up like a woman with a thong on 1.00

00:21:03.320 and, and, and with rainbow sunglasses, what is going on? Yeah. You know, it's, it's really is

00:21:10.240 crazy. And it all comes from a place of the denial of reality. And of course it's predatorial.

00:21:14.800 Otherwise they wouldn't be doing it to kids. Well, that's the thing. You want to read a book

00:21:18.200 to kids? Yeah. Read a book to kids. Yeah. Put some clothes on. What do I care? Why do you have to do

00:21:24.540 it in sequined ladies underpants? Like, why do you have to do it in a cross sex burlesque costume? 1.00

00:21:31.600 And one of the questions I get all the time is Sheila, why are parents doing this? Why are they

00:21:36.820 taking them there? And you know, for so many parents on the left, they don't see their child

00:21:42.840 as, um, you know, I see my kids as I have these three opportunities to make the world a better

00:21:53.500 place. So I have to do it right. I have to make sure that they are good, productive people who will

00:22:01.300 to use Jordan Peterson's language, bring order out of chaos to do good in the world, not just be good

00:22:06.580 good or try to be good, but do good around them. And I think the left sort of sees their children

00:22:13.900 as an accessory, like a, like a button on their jean jacket that says like love wins. That's how

00:22:20.580 they look at their children. And, you know, to, to, again, I try to avoid turning the show into

00:22:26.820 Sheila's catechism hour, but you know what? There were always, there were always parents willing to,

00:22:32.380 for whatever reason, put their babies up on the altar of Moloch. And yes, you know,

00:22:38.080 well, no, you're right. It looks in different ways in different times,

00:22:41.120 but this is how it looks today. It is. And

00:22:44.800 also, I think a lot of parents, um,

00:22:50.620 you know, if you don't have strong values, even if, even, even if you're whatever different

00:22:59.120 denomination of religion, but if you don't have strong foundation in an absolute truth

00:23:04.040 that you believe you are beholden to for the sake of the salvation of your soul,

00:23:08.620 if that's not something that you're willing to stick by, um, then you're going to fall for things.

00:23:17.240 And also too, I mean, we could have an analogy here with all the COVID stuff we went through.

00:23:22.680 Um, why did so many people fall for this, for the, for the, the narrative, for the scam,

00:23:27.600 for whatever you want to call it, you know, we can believe different things about the virus,

00:23:30.400 but why do people fall for that thing, that whole, that whole paradigm? And it's because

00:23:35.380 for the longest time we've had this Marxist inspired school mechanism where we are told

00:23:43.560 that from a young age that we have, it's funny, they got rid of original sin and they called it

00:23:51.340 white privilege. They got rid of it. You know, like we're told that we have a problem that can only

00:23:56.740 be fixed by the experts. And this is, this is long before COVID. This is long before drag queen story 1.00

00:24:02.840 hour. So you get to the point of, well, listen, like I talked to a family member who lives out in

00:24:07.500 Vancouver and he went all woke and he's like, well, Kennedy, you know, I got to recognize about

00:24:13.760 myself that it's like 2020 and I've got to like embrace the way things are going. Cause like,

00:24:20.520 I can't be a bigot. And I'm like, who said you were a bigot? Yeah. Well, the culture said you

00:24:25.680 were a bigot. The mechanism said you're a bigot. You were told that your traditional values

00:24:30.480 were psychologically disordered. And I think a lot of parents, they're just, they've imbibed this and

00:24:37.200 it's like, well, the public education system's good. The public library is good. The prime minister

00:24:43.620 is good. They're telling me I should do this. So if I'm going to be good, I have to, I really think

00:24:49.980 it's that simple. Yeah. You know, I think you have a wonderful point there. Now sticking with,

00:24:56.520 well, not sticking with, but it seems as though a lot of good things are happening over at the

00:24:59.740 daily wire lately. Matt Walsh, Catholic like us, he called out Christian leaders for their absolute

00:25:07.180 silence by and large, not, not exclusively on the issue of, uh, drag queen story hours and

00:25:15.920 transgenderism and pastors getting arrested, uh, Tucker Carlson, same thing. Where are the 0.65

00:25:20.820 professional Christians while pastors are getting arrested? Um, and it happened, it came from my own

00:25:27.320 church, you know, when, when, um, Tim Stevens is going to church for, or going to jail for not turning

00:25:33.520 away a congregant at the door, um, being unable to sign conditions that would force him to turn

00:25:39.560 away congregants. Um, or when James Coates is being incarcerated for, um, five weeks for the very

00:25:46.700 same thing, you could hear a pin drop throughout the Christian movement in this country with, again,

00:25:55.780 very few exceptions. Why is that happening?

00:25:59.020 Oh man. I mean, I guess from a religious perspective, almost nobody believes in hell

00:26:08.120 anymore. I mean, I'm just being honest, like the idea that you actually have to be like Christ and

00:26:13.700 die that way. And like, you can't just apostatize because the government told you to that's anathema

00:26:19.860 to so many people, even conservatives, even people who are morally conservative, uh, because they've

00:26:27.060 adopted this very modern post-modernist biblical scholars attitude of like, you know, uh, Christianity

00:26:35.680 is about finding the best version of yourself. Uh, and this is our tradition and yes, we're pro-life

00:26:42.080 and pro-marriage because those things are better for you. It's very human centered. Whereas these,

00:26:46.640 these pastors and these priests who were willing to do things underground or, you know, however they

00:26:52.080 chose to do it, but like to say, I'm going to serve my flock, no matter what, um, they have a

00:26:59.180 horror, they have a vertical mindset. They look up to God. They don't look, they don't look horizontal

00:27:04.960 to man, uh, because they understand that we're ordered towards God. So that's just gone in a lot

00:27:12.200 of people, you know, we suffer, we're suffering in the Catholic church because of some of the leadership

00:27:15.940 and it's the same problem as what's happening in the Protestant denominations. And, you know,

00:27:20.500 these few men who stick their heads up, like father Altman down in the States or these canceled

00:27:24.860 priests and stuff, they stick their head up and a bishop wax it down. And, um, and then I guess from

00:27:30.580 a very natural perspective, um, cities or whether it's, um, uh, whether it's, uh, you know, tax breaks

00:27:45.380 or whether it's grants or whatever the thing is, they get financially compensated. They get, um,

00:27:55.400 they get, uh, sustained by government, either programs or funding. And here in Canada,

00:28:01.240 I remember talking to the justice center for free, for constitutional freedoms back in

00:28:06.920 May of 2020. I found this is before they blew up, right? We have, we have life side of you,

00:28:11.260 you got rebel. We've been, we've been, we've been, uh, trumpeting these guys the whole time

00:28:15.320 because they've done such great work, but they were very small then. And, uh, I messaged them

00:28:20.640 on Twitter and I said, why is it that my, my church has to be closed, even though we in theory have

00:28:27.860 freedom of religion. And he said, the difference between us and the States is that property rights

00:28:32.840 are constitutional in the States. In Canada, they're not common law is supposed to be common

00:28:40.500 law works great if the people are saying, so in the spirit of the law would not be to take

00:28:46.900 somebody's church for holding Easter service. But he said, the problem is technically it's not

00:28:52.600 protected by the constitution. So the government can just take your property. And if you have a

00:28:58.920 license, which they have to, because they have public kitchens and things like that,

00:29:02.760 they're literally licensed by the government. It's not a private residence. And he said,

00:29:06.320 that's the issue. So I think from Canada, that's a very practical thing is these pastors knew that

00:29:09.960 they would just get their churches taken away. And then, you know, the ones that did,

00:29:15.240 they continued to minister and actually their churches are growing. I know Tim Stevens,

00:29:19.120 he's looking for a bigger facility, grace life. They're looking for a bigger facility. I think

00:29:23.360 Pastor Art's outgrown his facility. And it's just, it's so disappointing, but also not because,

00:29:32.580 you know, again, Sheila's catechism, our were also told these things would happen. And, and,

00:29:38.760 yes, you know, this is a church that is soaked in the blood of martyrs. And I'm looking at my church

00:29:43.860 saying, why are you scared of Dina Hinshaw? And that happened universally. Yeah. Yeah.

00:29:52.800 Yeah. We just, we just had a men's conference. My chapel put on a men's conference for,

00:29:59.560 it was, it was the Canadian martyrs men's conference. And the reason we chose the martyrs

00:30:03.400 is because, Hey boys, you know, you want to take back your country and have strong families and

00:30:09.020 stuff. Look what those missionaries did who came over. They, they, and again, they love the natives.

00:30:16.020 That's why they were willing to go and get scurvy just to preach them the gospel. You don't do that

00:30:20.580 for somebody you don't like. Um, and they were our heroes, you know, they, they shed their blood

00:30:25.640 for, for, to spread, you know, the gospel of Jesus Christ to Canada. And, uh, we need to recapture

00:30:31.080 that. We need to recapture that spirit. If we're going to beat this woke monster.

00:30:35.180 Um, well, I know we, I said 20 minutes were way over, but I still, okay, perfect. Yeah. I don't have

00:30:42.080 a meeting for another half an hour. So, um, I also wanted to talk to you about how damaging

00:30:47.040 the way the left talks is to the language. For example, going back to the Michael Knowles thing,

00:30:55.540 the use of the word genocide or the use of the word Nazi Nazi now just means anybody I disagree with or

00:31:03.000 any prickly conservative who won't shut up when, when I scold them, that's what it means. The only

00:31:09.660 people that actually helps are real Nazis because you serve to normalize one of the worst evils that's

00:31:15.360 ever walked the face of the earth. Um, I, I, what I found, and I hate to use the word offensive

00:31:20.620 because offensive usually means you can't control your emotions. But what I found so offensive about

00:31:25.180 labeling Michael Knowles speech genocide was that I've actually been to two places where a genocide

00:31:31.740 actually took place. You know, when we, I was in Poland for the climate change conference,

00:31:37.520 my producer and I said, you know what, we're in Poland. When are we going to get this opportunity

00:31:41.220 again? Let's jump on the train. Let's go to Auschwitz. Let's see, just let's ground ourselves 0.89

00:31:47.580 and give ourselves that context when we're talking about this or when, when somebody on the left tries

00:31:53.560 to shut us up by calling, uh, calling us Nazis, let's go look and see how damaging that is to the

00:32:00.680 language and reality. But also in 2019, I was in the Nineveh plane, um, where the Christians there

00:32:07.360 survived the ISIS genocide and they've returned. You know, part of the reason I went there was because 0.98

00:32:15.020 we were working with, um, Mercury one with the, um, Nazarene fund. And we went there to say to the

00:32:24.220 Christians, look, you've survived a genocide. How do we get you somewhere else that you need to go? 0.98

00:32:29.560 How do, how do we get you from here? How do we resettle you? Uh, Mercury one works with churches.

00:32:34.820 Um, how do we help you give you what you need? And they said, we don't want to go. We need electricity.

00:32:40.680 We need services in our town. We need to go back. We need to go back to Batnaya. ISIS will not take

00:32:48.160 our home on the Nineveh plane. I saw where ISIS had defiled the church. They used the spire to,

00:32:57.020 um, as like a sniper's nest. They went to the graveyard and dug up the graves of the Christians,

00:33:04.520 smashed the headstones, turned it to rubble. Um, and it was funny. The local priest said, okay,

00:33:09.320 well, I'm just going to take the rubble from the graveyard and turn it into, um, paving stones in

00:33:15.000 the new, uh, children's, um, Sunday school that he was building. So even, even in that he would not be

00:33:20.600 defeated, but I, I've seen what an actual genocide looks like. You diminish the survivors of a genocide

00:33:29.980 and how evil a genocide is by just saying somebody disagreed with me. You genocided me.

00:33:36.780 Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. Um, it's like little children having a tantrum. They don't have

00:33:44.160 many words left. So they just, he scratched me, you know, he, daddy, my, my children do this all

00:33:49.200 the time. Yeah. He, he tried to kill me. It's like, no, he didn't anyway. Um, you know, daddy,

00:33:55.280 he almost drowned me. It's like, you're wrestling in the water and you lost. They didn't try to drown

00:34:00.000 you, you know? And, um, this is what they do. It, it really is sad. Like, you know, again,

00:34:06.680 it doesn't even make sense. Grammatically, you can't genocide transgender because it's not like 1.00

00:34:13.440 you couldn't even, I don't even think that would count as genocide because it's not like some sort

00:34:18.180 of identifiable, like race of people. Like, what does it even mean? Like, does that mean,

00:34:24.760 you know, buddy who dress up, but we used to say transvestite. I remember again, you know,

00:34:29.240 this has gone so fast. I remember being at university of Ottawa and I worked in the Starbucks at the

00:34:34.780 chapters there. Oh, so you saw it all. Yeah. But it wasn't that bad then. Like it was,

00:34:39.720 I mean, this was, there was a, uh, a fella. He was a man, uh, but he lived as a woman and he worked

00:34:46.820 at the chapters and no one cared because it was just like what he did. He was very kept to himself,

00:34:56.180 very kind. And, uh, but they called him a transvestite. That's what he was called then.

00:35:01.880 You know, my point here is, is what does it even mean to be transgender? Like with all these things,

00:35:06.680 how could you even say this is an identifiable group? I'm going to genocide. So it doesn't even

00:35:09.600 really fit the definition besides the fact that it cheapens the definition. Um, and it's just a boy

00:35:15.860 who cried wolf. You know, you teach this to your kids. If you keep lying, then when something bad

00:35:19.700 actually happens and no one's going to listen to you. Um, so I don't, I can't, I mean, I can't

00:35:27.280 understand the left's mentality. It must be so exhausting. I mean, you want to be so angry all

00:35:32.340 the time. I can't imagine like, like thinking everybody's like a mass murderer. That'd be such

00:35:38.860 a terrible way to live. Yeah. I mean, how do you have fun? I don't know. It's so weird.

00:35:44.340 Well, yeah. Like how do you have fun? How do you live your life when society is telling you

00:35:48.620 that everybody who looks like you, Kennedy is going to kill you, who wants to eradicate you from 0.98

00:35:55.200 the face of the earth? No wonder they all have anxiety disorders on the left.

00:36:00.000 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How do you live? I mean, I, you know, I work, I'm in a similar line of work

00:36:06.620 at LifeSite News. I mean, yeah, there's some days I write some stories and man, it sucks. You know,

00:36:12.380 I'm like, that was a real bad, you know, I wrote a story. Oh, I, I wept at my desk. It was

00:36:18.220 a story about this young man in Toronto who died from the jab and it was confirmed by a,

00:36:23.500 an autopsy. And it was really, really sad. His dad's on Twitter answers for Sean. It's kind

00:36:28.380 of went famous, this story. And I had to listen to the story, like, you know, the, the, the public,

00:36:34.020 the, like the town hall call, he was calling into the meeting and stuff. And, and that was a really

00:36:40.760 bad day for me, you know? And, and so I, what I'm saying is I get it. Like you can be conservative,

00:36:45.860 liberal, and there's, there's reasons why there's bad news, but I can't imagine

00:36:52.880 the leftist mentality of believing that people's immutable characteristics, their race, their

00:37:02.520 gender, their ethnicity, like those things make the person bad. Yeah. I mean, really they're, 1.00

00:37:11.020 they're very racist for this case. But we need to understand they're very, very racist. The idea

00:37:16.640 that white privileges can even be a term is insane. It's how on earth does a guy who lives in

00:37:24.980 Slovenia in the 1990s, you know, with the Balkan Wars have privilege? This is, this is ridiculous.

00:37:35.960 How does, how does, you know, my no, no God rest his soul comes over to Canada with my mom and her

00:37:39.960 family in 1967. And he's 40 years old, has to restart his life because Italy was devastated after the wars

00:37:45.640 and the communists are taken over after Mussolini. It's just no one goods in charge. And he's got to

00:37:52.440 work, you know, 70 hours a week. I mean, his privilege was hard work. Yeah. You know, you can't

00:37:58.760 tell me that this guy had some sort of magical white power that, that, that, that got him like he

00:38:04.600 didn't, he just was like everyone else, you know? And, you know, the fact that this is, you know,

00:38:09.640 we even think, how do we even get to the point where we can talk about genocide? Well, I guess

00:38:13.080 it's, it's, it's the steps that got us there. I mean, again, we would be so inundated with these

00:38:21.180 terms like white privilege, but if you really break it down, it's so racist. Like you are saying

00:38:29.540 that a group of people have special powers because of their race. Can you imagine if you said that about

00:38:39.220 anybody else and they won't allow you to anyway, it just, uh, it really is, it really is fascinating.

00:38:45.820 And this would go back to the transgender thing because it's a denial of reality. You know, the 1.00

00:38:50.560 reason why the left can, can, can advocate for transgenderism is because they have, they have

00:38:55.280 decided that reality will not apply to them. You are a racist because you say white privilege isn't

00:39:00.280 a thing, even though white privilege itself is racist. Therefore you are also a bigot because you

00:39:06.000 don't think children should mutilate themselves, even though that's what we think they should do.

00:39:09.200 It's, it's just, it's, it's, it's like a disease. Yeah. It's a mind virus. It really is. Yeah.

00:39:14.740 Um, Kennedy, how do people find your work and support your work? Um, tell them about your books.

00:39:21.340 Um, sure. Tell everybody everything. Sure. So yeah, uh, I'm a journalist for LifeSite News.

00:39:27.140 I think I tried to wear my company logo here to make my bosses happy. There you go. I love my

00:39:31.100 company. It's a great place to work. Uh, us, True North, you guys, it's about it.

00:39:36.180 You know, holding down the fort here in Canada and, uh, it's a pleasure to be in, uh, colleagues.

00:39:41.480 Um, so LifeSite News, I write there two, three articles a day, Monday to Friday. You can find me

00:39:46.480 there. Some commentary, some straight news. Um, I have YouTube channel called the Kennedy report.

00:39:51.760 I do a bunch of very Catholic themed stuff, uh, there. Um, you can also, uh, I have, uh, two books.

00:40:01.120 Um, one is called, uh, terror of demons, reclaiming traditional Catholic masculinity. 0.78

00:40:06.280 And one is called lockdown with the devil. Uh, if you've ever read CS Lewis's screw tape letters,

00:40:11.000 uh, it is that style of book and it follows a family through the lockdown, uh, and what the demons

00:40:17.180 would do to their family. I actually, I think it's a good book. And then I, uh, yeah, that's about it.

00:40:23.360 That's all my stuff. Oh, I didn't know about the second book. I'm very excited. I bought the first

00:40:29.660 book for my friend who recently converted to Catholicism and, um, starting his family and

00:40:34.960 getting married. I'm like, this is the perfect book for you. Cool. Yeah. Uh, and he really enjoyed

00:40:39.340 it. So, uh, Kennedy, thanks so much for coming on the show. Um, I'm so sorry that this is the first

00:40:43.620 time you've been on the show, but hopefully you, we will be able to repeat it very soon.

00:40:48.260 Anytime.

00:40:56.020 Well, friends, we've come to the portion of the show where I invite your viewer feedback. Unlike

00:41:00.380 the mainstream media, I actually care about what you think about the work that we're doing

00:41:03.520 here at rebel news. It's the reason I give out my email address right now. So if you want it,

00:41:07.940 write it down. Well, it's easy to remember. It's Sheila at rebel news.com put gun show letters in the

00:41:12.820 subject line. So I know that you are sending me a letter directly related to the show because I do

00:41:17.580 get some days, hundreds, no exaggeration, hundreds of emails a day, but also don't hesitate to leave

00:41:25.160 a question or comment wherever you might find the work that we do on rumble or odyssey or the

00:41:31.820 censorship platform of YouTube, even on the Facebook page or on the website, leave a question or comment

00:41:38.560 there too. Sometimes I go looking over there. Now, today's letter actually landed in my email

00:41:43.260 inbox. It comes to me from Wayne and it's about a show I did a couple of weeks ago with my friend,

00:41:51.860 K2, Kian Simone. He's our chief documentary filmmaker here. And if you're watching this on Wednesday

00:41:57.320 night, then as you are watching this, I am currently in the middle of our last live screening of Kian's

00:42:07.340 latest documentary, Trudeau on trial to get details. You can go to Trudeau on trial.com. So even if you

00:42:13.880 aren't able to make it to the in-person screenings, if you are a subscriber to revenues, plus you get

00:42:18.420 early access to any of his documentaries. And it is also available in episodes on our main YouTube

00:42:26.900 channel. So there are a couple of different ways that you can find the documentary, but I think

00:42:31.640 the best way is in person with hundreds of friends you haven't met yet. Anyway, we were talking about

00:42:37.700 what prompted Kian's documentary. It documents his time and all of our time at what we called the

00:42:45.220 Trucker Commission, the Public Order Emergency Inquiry into Justin Trudeau's use of the Emergencies Act

00:42:51.280 on peaceful anti-regime protesters in the nation's capital. He used a wartime law, a counterterrorism law

00:42:58.840 on bouncy castles and hot tub parties and horn honking. I mean, it's just crazy. He apparently,

00:43:08.940 according to Commissioner Paul Rouleau, was justified because those aforementioned bouncy castles

00:43:16.740 amounted to a national security crisis that the government needed extraordinary tools to deal

00:43:23.360 with. And of course, the suspension of civil liberties, the arrests of leaders, the detainment

00:43:28.680 of people without warrant and the warrantless seizures of bank accounts. I mean, just insane.

00:43:34.760 But anyway, Wayne writes to me, when you asked K2 last week, what is next after the emergency

00:43:41.260 commission inquiry? I thought he'd spill his guts. But no. Does no one at Rebel News believe that

00:43:47.740 Justin Trudeau will not prorogue Parliament? Or is that topic unmentionable on air? Well,

00:43:52.740 I am currently mentioning it on air. So I don't know what you mean by that. But it's just not

00:43:57.200 something that I think Justin Trudeau will do. Now, for those of you who don't know, proroguing

00:44:01.960 Parliament is basically stopping and suspending Parliament. And it sounds extraordinary, but really,

00:44:09.180 it's not. It happens quite frequently, actually. In fact, it famously happened when the Liberals,

00:44:17.700 the Bloc Québécois, and the NDP tried to form a coalition to stop Stephen Harper from forming a

00:44:28.220 minority government. And so Harper prorogued Parliament, and he subverted their plan to take

00:44:35.220 over Parliament. And so it happens from time to time. But I don't think Justin Trudeau will do

00:44:41.940 that. Because he doesn't need to do that. Because the NDP are propping him up, no matter what. They

00:44:49.520 wouldn't say that even if Justin Trudeau was found unjustified in using the Emergencies Act, that they

00:44:54.700 would break their coalition with him. So why would he prorogue Parliament? He doesn't need to do

00:45:02.500 anything to hang on to power because the NDP are mindless and irrelevant and have given over all

00:45:08.260 their power to the Liberals. As long as the Liberals give them just a little bit of what they need,

00:45:13.620 they'll give the Liberals everything they need to hold on to power. It's quite pathetic, actually.

00:45:18.700 Anyway, let's keep going. Has no one there read the Marxist handbook? I don't know what you mean by

00:45:24.840 the Marxist handbook. So do you mean the Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx? Yes, I did read it.

00:45:33.460 Or do you mean American Marxism by the incredible Mark Levin? I also did read that. That's sitting

00:45:40.020 in here. Because you want to know how this sort of crypto Marxism ends up in your institutions and

00:45:46.720 what that means in practice in your everyday life when these people are walking through our

00:45:51.120 institutions and changing things while we're too busy working hard and paying the bills. There's also

00:45:56.460 the sage handbook of Marxism because I thought, is there something that I'm missing the Marxist handbook?

00:46:01.800 The sage handbook on Marxism. I dug that one up on the internet and I thought that one was kind

00:46:08.460 of funny because it's a university level textbook, but it costs 400 British pounds to buy, which

00:46:16.360 hardly seems Marxist to me, right? Don't they want everything to be free? Anyway, so yes,

00:46:23.280 I have read it indeed. Wayne goes on to write, there is a tidal wave of criminal culpability

00:46:29.840 for which countless politicians and bureaucrats are answerable to. They would simply not allow

00:46:34.620 that to happen. I don't think they're ever going to be fully accountable. I just don't

00:46:39.860 think so. With the remainder of his mandate, does anyone doubt that the prime minister would

00:46:43.440 not solidify his power base? Again, he already has. And the way the writings are laid out in

00:46:52.020 Canada, it doesn't matter. We continue to vote in the West against Justin Trudeau, almost

00:47:00.900 solidly blue. And it doesn't matter because the power base for the liberals has been solidified

00:47:07.860 and it's been solidified for years. So they don't really need to do any sort of Marxist

00:47:14.680 seizure of power. It's already been done through the distribution of writings to Vancouver and to

00:47:23.960 the GTA and Montreal. You don't need to seize control of this country in some sort of communist

00:47:33.260 revolution. The suburban moms in the GTA are already doing that for Justin Trudeau. 1.00

00:47:41.020 Once empowered dictatorship does not accede to the seemingly antiquated suffrage system. Even if

00:47:46.040 Justin Trudeau steps down, his replacement would be just as tyrannical. Oh, I don't doubt that.

00:47:50.780 Look at the talent bench of the liberals. Who would, if Justin Trudeau just said, you know what,

00:47:59.700 this isn't for me, I'm going to go back to surfing and smoking dope. Who would replace him?

00:48:04.680 Chrystia Freeland. She cackled like some sort of goblin when she froze people's bank accounts 1.00

00:48:13.340 for the crime of simply disagreeing with Justin Trudeau on vaccine mandates. She cackled. She

00:48:20.680 devastated families and she thought it was funny. So yeah, would his replacement be just as tyrannical?

00:48:27.280 I actually think she would be worse because Justin Trudeau is an idiot. She is slightly less idiotic.

00:48:35.360 I don't think she's an intelligent woman, but she doesn't even pretend to give a down. 1.00

00:48:42.240 So I think that's quite sinister. Who in this country would protest the suspension of elections?

00:48:49.160 I don't need to suspend elections. You know you're going to win. Any civil protest would not be met by

00:48:55.760 Mr. Nice Guy next time. They weren't met with Mr. Nice Guy this time either in Ottawa. Can you

00:49:03.260 disabuse me of this mindset? I'm not disabusing you of the mindset that Justin Trudeau is a tyrannical

00:49:08.840 idiot or that his replacement would be probably worse. I'm just saying that the way the Canadian 1.00

00:49:16.540 electoral system is broken down and the system in which we exist, he doesn't have to

00:49:23.920 have some sort of dictatorial coup because

00:49:29.480 of Vancouver and Toronto and Montreal's voting habits. Unfortunately, that's just the way it is.

00:49:39.040 So I don't know what the solution is to fix that, but that's the system in which we live.

00:49:43.200 And as an Albertan, I'm keenly, keenly aware of the unfairness of it all.

00:49:48.500 Well, that's the show for tonight. Wayne, I hope that answered your question.

00:49:52.580 There's not anything at Rebel News that is unmentionable on air.

00:49:58.140 I can't speak for K2, but I just don't think that Justin Trudeau will prorogue Parliament

00:50:04.100 to indefinitely hang on to power. I just don't think he needs to.

00:50:08.020 Anyways, that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here

00:50:12.620 in the same time, in the same place next week. And as always, don't let the government tell you

00:50:16.900 that you've had too much to think.

00:50:46.900 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:50:48.500 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - March 08, 2023

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Daily Wire's Knowles CPAC speech sends the mainstream media into a fake news frenzy

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