Rick Igersich of the National Firearms Association joins The Gun Show host Sheila Gunn-Reed to talk about Alberta s new legislation protecting gun rights, and what it means for the rest of the gun rights movement in Canada.
00:07:34.720And like I say, when we were there, we were getting all kinds of responses from not even gun people, but just people, freedom-loving people were speaking to us.
00:07:55.040And what's happening in Alberta, I hope that the AGM goes well because it's going to be a starting point for the rest of the provinces to follow along.
00:08:06.900Because if they can establish that, I'm hoping that the other provinces jump aboard.
00:08:11.740And, you know, we get some provincial control over, you know, firearms.
00:08:18.120It's a federal thing, but I don't know how it's going to work out in the end.
00:08:22.120But the fact that they want to, we'll see what happens.
00:08:50.860The right to not be deprived of one's property without due legal process and just compensation.
00:08:58.140And the right to legally acquire, keep, and safely use firearms.
00:09:01.660And this has been something that the United Conservative Party has been working on since they started governing.
00:09:06.980Of course, we kicked out Justin Trudeau's chief firearms officer and appointed our own, something that Saskatchewan has also done.
00:09:15.360Danielle Smith has said that she will not direct Alberta RCMP to use scarce policing resources to hassle the law-abiding when we've got a plague of crime happening in our progressive-run cities.
00:09:27.940And this is just more of their mandate to protect the property rights of normal people from government overreach.
00:09:35.780You said that you're getting people who are not gun owners who want to join the NFA, and it really is a property rights issue.
00:09:42.580This is if the government, the federal government, woke up one day and said,
00:09:45.960You know that car that has never harmed anybody sitting in your driveway?
00:09:49.340It's black and it looks cool, so you can't have it anymore.
00:09:52.260That's what happens to gun owners in Canada constantly, especially with Justin Trudeau's ordering counsel.
00:09:59.200And it goes to more of an extreme in some provinces than others.
00:10:03.700I know Quebec right now is just, it's crazy with their gun laws.
00:10:07.460And, you know, even I've been hearing, you know, the delays in getting your PALs and stuff.
00:11:57.340People are sick and tired of the NDP making life more expensive.
00:12:02.300And he is doing and saying conservative things.
00:12:05.140This is unafraid conservatism happening in British Columbia.
00:12:08.900I never thought I would see it in my lifetime.
00:12:11.400And people are reacting to it positively.
00:12:14.940And, you know, he's been coming out strong on other issues of personal choice.
00:12:19.860And he said that he would follow the Alberta model, I guess, on firearms rights and not direct policing resources to snatch guns from the law-abiding anybody's in firearms rights.
00:12:33.640And, of course, cue the NDP outrage, right?
00:15:53.620It's the Justin Trudeau speak duplicated is what it is.
00:15:59.640He's just he's just taking Justin Trudeau, Justin Trudeau's words and using using them in this election, which which for an NDP who have been taking a lot of heat lately on on the federal and some provincial levels, I they're they're aligning themselves with with the liberals.
00:16:17.940And I think they'll continue to do so.
00:16:19.720And it's unfortunate for the NDP, the real NDP voters out there, because their party is not the party they they expect it to be.
00:16:29.640Yeah, you know, that's that is a good point.
00:16:33.100I know that a lot of for some godforsaken reason, a lot of the rural parts of northern Ontario and northern Manitoba vote NDP.
00:16:43.940Yeah, I think that's how we ended up with Nikki Ashton in Parliament.
00:16:47.320And and and, you know, I think that this urban iteration of professional students, union activists and far left radicals of the NDP is not reflective of those rural NDP voters who do care deeply about firearms rights and many of whom use their firearms for sustenance hunting.
00:17:12.420Yes. And you know what? And I think the and I think this this this goes to all parts of people voting for their parties.
00:17:20.980I think northern Ontario is a really good example. You know, grandpa voted for NDP.
00:17:25.260Dad voted for NDP. You know, mom voted for NDP. So I'm voting for NDP.
00:17:29.960And it just. Yeah. So you vote for Charlie Angus.
00:17:32.880Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, it just I.
00:17:36.880Yeah. But that happens a lot, even even in the in in the happens here, you know, it happens, you know, in the south, too.
00:17:45.020You know, I know people that are hardcore liberals don't they don't agree with anything Justin Trudeau is doing, but they're hardcore liberals because their father and mother voted for liberal.
00:17:53.620You know, I just I can't. It's hard to fathom sometimes, but this is where groups like us educate people, groups like rebel educate people, say, you know what, this isn't this isn't your father's or grandfather's liberal party.
00:18:08.960This is the liberal. Today's liberals are are yesteryears socialists and communists, is my opinion.
00:18:16.380So, you know, that's what's going on right across the country, but it's changing right now.
00:18:21.780I saw the latest polls and it looks like the liberals in a federal election, if it were to be held today, might not even get a seat in Ontario, which is unheard of because of what I've talked about before.
00:18:31.880The those 28 or 32 ridings in Toronto, which is the little red square, which I call the communist bloc.
00:18:38.320Apparently, it's all going blue now. So I don't know.
00:18:41.900You know, the end of the day, we need an election. But the only the only people right now, because they're leading so far in the polls is the conservatives.
00:18:50.380Everybody else is just trying to avoid it and do whatever they can not to have an election.
00:18:54.460And the worst are the NDP, you know, the NDP gun.
00:18:59.480I call them the NDP gun grabbers because they're just the same as the liberal gun grabbers.
00:19:03.480But Judd Mead Singh can't afford to have an election right now.
00:19:06.700He's got no money. And so he's going to line himself as long as he can with Justin Trudeau.
00:19:10.680And which is which is hurting the rest of the country, especially people like like us, you know, firearms people, you know, with the with the order and counsel still in place,
00:19:21.780with nothing out there to challenge Bill C-21, you know, and who knows what they're going to come up before the election,
00:19:30.740because, you know, it's been pretty quiet as far as the firearms issue has been going lately.
00:19:34.860But, you know, and I know, Sheila, as soon as it comes close, they're going to throw firearms out there and they're going to, you know,
00:19:40.160they're going to use it for a wedge issue just like they did last time.
00:19:42.840So, you know, just buckle in and hang on.
00:19:45.840Just like they're currently doing in British Columbia.
00:20:29.040Look, just an example, the shooting edge in Calgary just closed down a few days ago.
00:20:34.720You know, and it was it was one of those things.
00:20:36.800And, you know, J.R. Cox, what what the intel that we've got is, you know, he was paying around 60 or sixty five thousand dollars a month rent.
00:20:48.560And all of a sudden his rent went up to close to one hundred thousand dollars.
00:20:53.180And Calgary has a really, really liberal mayor.
00:21:45.140Pressuring law abiding gun owners like us and using that for a point, labeling, label, labeling us as potential criminals because of the personal property we possess.
00:21:55.800Yes. And, you know, it's a shame where Canada is today.
00:22:02.920It really it really, really is a shame.
00:22:05.900I wanted to ask you about the RCMP's mishandling of firearms.
00:22:11.560This came to light in an order paper question that I covered and then it was picked up by mainstream media outlets.
00:22:18.880If you or I handled our firearms as irresponsibly as some some of these RCMP officers, we would never be allowed to own firearms ever again.
00:23:40.400It's funny if you look at the stats of law-abiding Canadians like you and I, we don't get our firearms stolen because we got them double locked.
00:23:49.500You know, our guns are not readily accessible to criminals, but apparently the RCMP guns are somehow.
00:23:56.420Well, and we don't even know if they were stolen.
00:23:58.900You know, if somebody broke into my house and, God forbid, stole some firearms from my home, was able to get past the double lock through the safe, I would still be the victim of a crime.
00:24:20.620You know, it just, you know, luckily there's people like you and Rebel out there that find this information out and let people know what's really going on.
00:24:28.880Because people, they would have kept a lid on that.
00:24:31.220Nobody would have been aware that there's a bunch of loose machine guns running around Canada.
00:24:37.780Now, I want to, before I take up your whole morning, I want to ask you about the amount of money spent so far on Justin Trudeau's so-called buyback.
00:24:49.640And I hate calling it that because you didn't own this stuff in the first place, Justin Trudeau, so you can't buy it back from me.
00:24:56.040You are compensating me for confiscation.
00:24:59.160But it appears as though it's $67.2 million spent on this program and not a single firearm has been purchased from its law-abiding owner some four and a half years later.
00:25:14.860Yeah, you know, it's funny how that number increased because it started at $11 million and all of a sudden overnight it jumped to $56.1 million.
00:25:24.060And as of last week, it was $67.2 million.
00:25:28.500And it just, you often wonder how much information is actually getting out to the public on how the government's spending their money.
00:25:36.080But what have we got to show for this $67.2 million?
00:25:43.300As far as I know, they haven't budgeted any money to compensate the people for these firearms.
00:25:50.340They released a statement due to pressure from anti-gun groups that they're going to start confiscating firearms from dealers in mid-November.
00:26:04.540But I haven't seen anything on any kind of compensation.
00:26:08.220So basically, guns that are in gun shops and boxed up in boxes, and I don't think there's that many of them out there,
00:26:15.100they're going to start to come and seize these guns.
00:26:20.800I don't think they know where they're going.
00:26:22.380I know, I've heard through the grapevine that there's some metal crushing companies and stuff involved with government contracts to supposedly grind these guns up.
00:29:54.960I just did the math as you were talking there.
00:29:56.980At $67.2 million, at $100,000, a brand new cop, we could have had 672 extra police officers policing the streets of Canada's big cities to deal with the real criminals.
00:30:13.720Instead, the government has spent it on doing nothing, literally nothing, to affect the crime rate.
00:30:19.520And you know what, though, again, Sheila, that $67.2 million is what we know about.
00:30:26.640Just so you know, just like they don't...
00:30:28.900They really don't know how many firearms are out there.
00:30:32.600They don't know how many gun owners are out there.
00:30:34.220The numbers are changing on a daily basis.
00:30:36.160It just, you know, it's whatever stats they can compile from somebody that doesn't know anything about what's going on, and they use that day.