Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Dr. Hodgkinson Returns： Real Concerns on Rushed Out Vaccines

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00:00:18.660 Hodgkinson. And we're discussing the catastrophic effects of the pandemic response by the

00:00:28.920 government, but also the problem with medical silencing and the complete lack of skepticism

00:00:37.160 from the medical community about the vaccine rollout, vaccine side effects, and how you

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00:01:48.960 Meeting Canada's most censored doctor, I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gun Show.

00:01:55.580 Now, back in December, the world came to know somebody that I've already known for quite

00:02:15.400 some time. The world came to know that he's a passionate and ethical man who cares about

00:02:19.440 the underdog. The world was first introduced to Dr. Roger Hodgkinson after he let the politicians

00:02:25.340 at the city of Edmonton absolutely have it. During a council meeting about the lockdown restrictions

00:02:30.660 and the video of the whole affair went viral. Take a look.

00:02:35.320 The bottom line is simply this. There is utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and

00:02:43.900 politicians. It's outrageous. This is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public.

00:02:51.300 There is absolutely nothing that can be done to contain this virus other than protecting older, 1.00

00:02:58.920 more vulnerable people. It should be thought of nothing more than a bad flu season. This is not

00:03:04.500 Ebola. It's not SARS. It's politics playing medicine. And that's a very dangerous game.

00:03:12.460 Since that time, Dr. Roger Hodgkinson has become a bit of an international sensation and everybody

00:03:17.460 found out what I knew about him all along. Now, Dr. Roger Hodgkinson, and I'll let you hear it

00:03:23.740 from him for yourself, is a highly trained, highly credentialed doctor. He's had a very prestigious

00:03:29.900 education and a very long and successful career. And he's an entrepreneur and a family man.

00:03:37.560 But because he spoke out about what he saw as a government overreaction to what he says is

00:03:44.340 a routine upper respiratory disease, he's been attacked and he's been censored, but yet he fights

00:03:50.780 on and yet he speaks out. So today, in a very requested interview, you'll meet my friend,

00:03:57.520 a contender for the most censored man on the internet these days, Dr. Roger Hodgkinson. Take a listen.

00:04:19.180 So joining me now is Dr. Roger Hodgkinson. Doctor, can you, and I'm sure you've done this a

00:04:27.080 thousand times and you've even done it before with me, but can you give us a brief, or I don't even

00:04:33.440 think it can possibly be all that brief given your background and your education and your training,

00:04:37.960 but can you explain to us your background and your education and training so that people can truly

00:04:42.400 understand where you're coming from? You are not a layman with regard to disease and diagnosis at all.

00:04:52.120 Well, I'm a retired pathologist living in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. I trained at Cambridge University

00:05:02.340 in Britain, did my pathology training in Vancouver at the University of British Columbia. I subsequently

00:05:09.140 became an assistant professor at the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Alberta, done a great

00:05:14.960 deal of resident teaching in my career. I've also been the chairman of a subcommittee of the Royal

00:05:21.020 College of Physicians and Surgeons in Ottawa, setting the annual examination for pathology residents,

00:05:27.280 a rather important role to make sure that your breast biopsy is being read correctly.

00:05:33.340 I've been the president of our provincial association of pathologists. I've been the CEO of a large

00:05:38.980 commercial retail laboratory. I've practiced in the United States, in Michigan, and in California.

00:05:46.200 I'm the chairman of an American biotechnology company in North Carolina, doing cutting-edge

00:05:53.340 research on DNA sequencing for the early diagnosis of cancer. That's a reasonable summary of what I

00:06:05.040 bring to the table. Shreela?

00:06:06.840 I would suggest that you're probably far more qualified than the people who are making decisions

00:06:12.760 with regard to the coronavirus restrictions. However, that, again, is my layman's personal

00:06:18.300 opinion. Now, you started, and it was really from the very beginning, speaking out against the

00:06:26.360 coronavirus restrictions. And I guess at the time, it would have been the reaction or overreaction

00:06:31.740 of government officials to the pandemic that was just then spreading out of Wuhan, China.

00:06:41.120 Yes, I don't change a single word of what I said back in November that was the thing that went viral.

00:06:48.580 This is nothing more than a bad flu for the vast majority of the population. Never in medical

00:06:56.320 history have we quarantined the well to protect a few who are vulnerable. Never happened before.

00:07:04.720 What should have happened, as I said back in November, is simply to protect the vulnerable.

00:07:12.000 That was the consensus of the Great Barrington Declaration by three of the world's most esteemed

00:07:18.080 epidemiologists, protecting the vulnerable. The older people in nursing homes with comorbidities

00:07:24.240 should have been exactly where it was at, and life should have gone on exactly as normal,

00:07:30.480 without the massive consequences of so many things that rolled out from the declaration of an emergency,

00:07:38.760 which never was an emergency in the usual sense of the word. If you take away the definition of this

00:07:45.600 being an emergency, that undercuts the very reason to have an emergency authorization for a vaccine,

00:07:53.380 and vaccine passports, and da-da-da-da, you know, the whole thing was a series of knock-on consequences

00:08:00.820 that resulted in this horrendous medical mess that will go down in history as the most grotesque example

00:08:10.740 of mistakes in medicine, of medical malpractice, of the most enormous scale, because we're injecting this

00:08:21.620 untested vaccine as we speak into billions of arms without going through the usual testing

00:08:29.780 for no good reason whatsoever. And that includes injecting into children with all kinds of potential

00:08:36.660 complications that we may talk about later on. You know, let's go there right away, because you and I

00:08:42.020 were talking yesterday on the phone about your concerns with not only the untested vaccines,

00:08:49.940 but also the idea that we are now giving them to children. And even still, as we're seeing complications

00:08:58.340 arise out of places like Israel, where they have a little bit longer history with the vaccine than we

00:09:04.820 do here in North America, they're still proceeding with this idea that kids, the least vulnerable

00:09:12.420 to the coronavirus, must be vaccinated for, in our instance, for our province to be allowed to reopen.

00:09:20.420 Yes, let's discuss those one at a time, specifically myocarditis and infertility.

00:09:29.060 Myocarditis is a technical medical word for inflammation of the heart.

00:09:34.660 A large number of adult males in Israel are coming down with this problem. It's of serious concern.

00:09:44.180 It cannot be dismissed as the CDC is dismissing it as mild. There is no such thing as a mild myocarditis.

00:09:51.860 Allow me to explain. We're talking here about inflammation of the heart in young men who are

00:09:58.260 previously perfectly well. Now, myocarditis means that you are killing randomly a variable number. We

00:10:07.540 don't know for sure, because the person is still alive. You're killing a large number of

00:10:12.900 individual heart muscle cells. The heart is distinguished from other organs in that it does

00:10:19.300 not regenerate. The kidneys and the liver do. Whoa. That caught me by surprise.

00:10:29.860 Are we having a thunderstorm? It's going to come my way after it's done with you.

00:10:33.220 I saw the lightning first and I wondered what the heck it was. When you kill off 0.99

00:10:42.100 heart muscle cells, they do not regenerate. It's well known in medicine that myocarditis,

00:10:50.660 when you recover from it, it can result in heart failure decades later and all kinds of other

00:10:57.540 cardiac complications. It cannot be predicted. It's never mild. It's very serious. And that's the very

00:11:04.740 reason the CDC is holding an emergency meeting tomorrow to look at whether or not this is sufficient

00:11:11.780 to stop vaccination in young males. And that would extend to children as well, of course.

00:11:18.660 So that is, it's very concerning. And that's precisely the reason why clinical trials continue

00:11:26.500 for the length of time they do. Four or five, seven years is not unusual. Because you don't know what

00:11:33.860 you don't know. The whole purpose of a clinical trial is to identify unexpected complications and

00:11:40.820 to quantify how many of them there are and how bad they are. That has not been done. All predicated on

00:11:48.740 an emergency which does not exist. The vast majority of the population are not dying of COVID. If they

00:11:56.580 get COVID, they're working well, as I call them, they might have a flu-like illness. But the vast

00:12:01.940 majority of them are not dying in greater numbers than they have done with previous flu epidemics.

00:12:08.900 And that's why I'm saying it's really no worse than a bad seasonal flu. Allow me to elaborate,

00:12:15.780 Sheila, on the statistical sleight of hand. You might call it lying. It's certainly pandering to fear

00:12:23.700 instead of optimism. If you were granny in a nursing home and I'm your doc, I could walk in to you one 1.00

00:12:32.340 morning and say rather glumly, Granny, it's true. You've got COVID. You know, your risk of dying of this is

00:12:42.020 about four times as much as it was with the flu last year. And granny would say to me, well,

00:12:49.700 that sounds pretty grim, doesn't it, doc? What are we going to do about this? On the other hand,

00:12:55.300 I could walk in and see see granny and say this, say this to you, granny. Granny, you know, it's true, 1.00

00:13:03.060 you've got COVID. But remember last year when you had the flu and you recovered so well, you had a 99%

00:13:10.820 chance of beating that and you did, didn't you? Well, this time around, you've got a 96% chance

00:13:17.540 of beating it. So that doesn't sound too bad, does it? And granny would say, no, it sure doesn't, doc.

00:13:22.980 Let me get out of here. You see how, you see how they constantly, constantly morph the game

00:13:33.060 into something that is, that's creating fear instead of a balanced opinion as to what's happening,

00:13:41.540 just like PCR and false positives and so-called cases. And I mean, I could go on and on and on.

00:13:48.820 The sleight of hand is, is just, you have to consider it to be intentional.

00:13:54.580 Now, let's talk about some of the other complications that we talked about off camera

00:13:59.940 yesterday with regards to the vaccine that, you know, and I think it's important for us to talk

00:14:04.900 about them because the mainstream media is, is very suppressive when it comes to talking about the other

00:14:11.060 side of this story. But you talked about the problems with infertility that could be developing

00:14:18.740 because of the vaccines, but also a phrase that I had never heard before until you used it. And I

00:14:25.620 follow this very closely. So that tells you how much the information is being suppressed. And you,

00:14:30.820 it was called contagious vaccinosis. Am I saying that properly?

00:14:35.300 That is correct. Yeah. Well, let's do with those one at a time. The, the concern regarding fertility

00:14:46.340 is not proven for the very simple reason that the trials did not continue long enough.

00:14:53.860 The last time I checked, Sheila, and you can vouch for this yourself, pregnancy takes nine months. 0.94

00:14:59.780 Well, if pregnancy takes nine months, how can you conceivably check on fertility

00:15:07.940 if your clinical trial only extends for four to six months? And furthermore, by intention,

00:15:14.500 you exclude pregnant women, obviously impossible. And yet this is a standard investigation for the

00:15:23.380 introduction of any new medication or vaccine for obvious reasons. Fertility is terribly important.

00:15:29.220 Now the evidence for concern is this, and it differs for males and females. It just so happens that the,

00:15:39.300 the submission that Pfizer made to the Japanese authorities in Japanese has just become available

00:15:46.180 and translated. The experiments they conducted were in rats in terms of the distribution of these

00:15:53.940 virus particles that are in part of the vaccine, these nanoparticles made of lipid, a fatty substance.

00:16:04.260 And they showed in that, in that bio distribution study, a most unexpected finding in rats, admittedly,

00:16:13.140 in rats, that there was very heavy concentration of these virus particles in the ovaries,

00:16:20.740 totally unexpected. Exactly why we do trials to find out things that you cannot predict.

00:16:28.340 And so it was in rats, admittedly, but that is the kind of thing that should have prompted an enormous

00:16:36.180 red flag to investigate the possibility. And it's no more than that at this time. I'm not trying to be a

00:16:42.660 scaremonger here. I'm saying this is based in science and reasonable concern about what the science says.

00:16:51.220 That would be a very solid reason not to, not to vaccinate women and girls with this vaccine until it was

00:17:01.540 shown not to be the case. With boys and men, it's a different story. The whole intent of this vaccine

00:17:12.340 is to produce spike protein, which is the which is then presented to the immune system to create an immune 0.81

00:17:20.100 reaction to theoretically, I use that word advisedly, protect you from getting a real COVID infection.

00:17:29.060 In some people, an excess of spike protein is produced that travels around the body and is the

00:17:37.140 reason for all these complications that we're now becoming aware of, such as myocarditis, such as blood

00:17:43.060 clots in the brain, such as blood clots in the legs, etc, etc. But there are other organs that have

00:17:51.540 a very high expression of the receptor for this spike protein. In addition to the inside of blood

00:17:59.060 vessels, I'm getting ahead of myself here, we get all these thrombotic events, these blood clots events,

00:18:04.740 because the receptor for the spike protein in the peripheral blood is on the inside of blood vessels.

00:18:12.260 That's why we get these thrombotic events. But that receptor, that ACE2 receptor, ACE2 receptor,

00:18:20.100 is also present in very high, it's very highly expressed in the placenta and the testis, not the

00:18:27.940 ovary, but the testis and the placenta. So you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that if

00:18:33.780 if there is attack on the testis and the placenta by the spike protein, that this certainly should raise

00:18:45.540 concerns about the viability of pregnancies in the early stages, perhaps, and also about male infertility.

00:18:54.500 So that's the background of the infertility story. It's not proven. That's precisely because the

00:19:03.380 clinical trials did not continue long enough. And it's obviously very, very important. I hope I'm

00:19:11.220 wrong. I don't want to be a scaremonger. I spent my entire life in evidence-based medicine. All I'm

00:19:17.220 doing here is blowing the whistle and saying, this needs to be investigated before any more

00:19:24.980 vaccinations are performed on anybody. That's the story on infertility.

00:19:31.300 Now, about the contagious vaccinosis, I think this is such a fascinating thing because,

00:19:38.980 again, if what's happening here holds true, then unvaccinated people could potentially be at risk

00:19:47.300 due to exposure to vaccinated people.

00:19:52.420 Yes. My first reaction when I heard these stories was, this is ridiculous. Come on, 0.98

00:19:59.940 get a grip on yourselves. This couldn't conceivably. This is mass hysteria. Well, let me tell you

00:20:07.540 something. Medicine is replete, and these are largely women that are making complaints. Medicine is, 1.00

00:20:12.820 history of medicine is replete with dismissing women, female complaints as hysterical. And it's a very

00:20:23.140 brave doc that does that without investigation to show that it's not plausible.

00:20:33.060 Well, it turns out that there is some plausibility to it, quite apart from the number of people who

00:20:39.220 are making these complaints, largely women, some of them postmenopausal, who are starting to have periods

00:20:44.420 again. In the actual Pfizer clinical trial documentation, they described the need to be alert

00:20:56.420 to this possibly happening, which means they were ahead of the game. They knew it was possible

00:21:04.580 and it needed to be looked for. But what's rather sinister is, in that very same protocol, they said,

00:21:11.620 do not report this to the clinical trial coordinator as an adverse reaction of the vaccine.

00:21:18.260 Simply report it to the trial coordinator separately, so it would not be recorded as an adverse reaction.

00:21:25.220 Now, that's rather sinister. That's in their submission, in their clinical trial protocol.

00:21:30.020 But it goes much deeper than that. There is a report out of Wuhan, strangely enough.

00:21:40.820 Some Chinese pathologists did an autopsy on someone who died of COVID. And they showed,

00:21:48.260 this is the infection now, they showed very clearly that the virus located in sweat glands.

00:21:55.620 And they actually pointed out in their paper that this might imply the possibility of transmission

00:22:05.220 through sweat and therefore aerosolized transmission that other people breathe in. Now, remember,

00:22:10.420 this is for the virus, not for the vaccine. But they did demonstrate a high concentration of the

00:22:18.100 same receptor, this ACE2 receptor in the sweat glands for the spike protein. So the partial, and I underline

00:22:26.980 that in neon, I'm not saying this is proven. I'm saying this is the partial hypothesis that could explain

00:22:35.700 this problem of what's now being called contagious vaccinosis.

00:22:40.420 It could be that excess spike protein locates in the sweat glands, enters the sweat, is aerosolized,

00:22:53.540 and breathed in by bystanders. These reports are concerning people who have not just had a trivial

00:23:03.300 contact with someone who's vaccinated, but some people who've been caregivers or in a family setting

00:23:07.940 or whatever, who've been in close contact with someone who's been vaccinated and could have been, could have

00:23:14.420 potentially inhaled sufficient spike protein to get inside their body by some means not yet known

00:23:25.620 and produce these effects that are being described. There's a number of problems with that hypothesis,

00:23:32.980 not the least of which is the likely dose that someone would inhale,

00:23:38.580 and also the mechanism by which the spike protein may or may not penetrate the respiratory tract.

00:23:44.900 There are no studies that I'm aware of that have that have studied.

00:23:48.660 It's well known about the penetration of the respiratory tract by the virus,

00:23:53.300 but I'm not aware of any studies regarding the transmissibility of the spike protein

00:23:59.380 through the respiratory tract surface. So that's where we are with contagious vaccinosis right now.

00:24:06.100 We have, we have the plausibility, partial plausibility of it from a scientific perspective.

00:24:13.380 We have the recognition by Pfizer that it could happen and wants to be looked for in the clinical trials.

00:24:20.660 And we have the scientific underpinning of it of knowing that there's heavy

00:24:24.020 ACE2 receptor expression in sweat glands. And on top of that, we have the large number of reports

00:24:33.060 swirling around the internet of people alleging that they're having problems because of being close to

00:24:40.420 someone who's been vaccinated. Now it's, it's terribly important that I'm not labeled here as some

00:24:45.620 scaremonger, some quack, some, you know, some looney tune. I'm simply drawing attention to some of the

00:24:56.500 science behind this. And it should be investigated.

00:25:03.700 Now, that's one of the things I wanted to talk to you about, because I think that you are probably

00:25:09.540 the most censored man on the internet for your very reasonable and balanced approach to the science

00:25:17.540 of the pandemic. I know myself, if I were to post a video of you to my Facebook page,

00:25:26.420 the potential is that my Facebook page could be disappeared altogether. But I know for sure

00:25:31.300 that YouTube or Facebook, they are going to pull that video down as misinformation.

00:25:36.980 And I know you've been labeled as an anti-vaxxer, but I've heard you say repeatedly that you are

00:25:43.620 not at all an anti-vaxxer, you received vaccine yourself, that's not your concern. Your concern is

00:25:49.980 the lack of investigation of this specific slate of vaccines. I wanted to ask you, you know,

00:26:00.420 could I just say to that, Sheila, I have lived my life, my entire career in evidence-based medicine,

00:26:09.620 mainstream, kept my nose clean, doc. All right. That's me. I'm not one to exaggerate. I'm not one

00:26:20.020 to scare people. Not at all. I'm just standing up as a whistleblower because I believe a madness of

00:26:27.540 indescribable scale is being perpetrated by these politicians aided and abetted by their medical

00:26:36.340 officers of health. That's why I'm standing up. I'm sorry to interject that, but I'm not an anti-vaxxer.

00:26:41.780 I take vaccines myself. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm not a great resetter. None of the above. No,

00:26:48.020 no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm simply trying to educate people about the things that are being suppressed.

00:26:59.620 No, I've known you for years, and I think you're one of the most level-headed and thoughtful people

00:27:04.340 I've ever encountered in my sphere of conservatism. Now, I wanted to talk to you about

00:27:12.340 the attacks on your reputation and your credibility from other doctors who are completely buying in

00:27:21.140 to the COVID pandemic narrative without any sort of skepticism at all. What have you experienced?

00:27:28.740 I've been paying attention, but I think our viewers need to hear it from you.

00:27:31.780 Well, I've been attacked by my own college, of course, for talking, quote, outside of my scope of

00:27:42.020 practice, close quotes. Well, you know, we told the college that, according to the Royal College of

00:27:52.660 Physicians and Surgeons of Canada, of which, by the way, as I said, I was the chairman of a board that

00:27:58.660 set the examination for pathologists nationally. The college is saying I'm outside of my scope of

00:28:07.140 practice. Well, actually, general pathologists are trained in infectious disease, in bacteriology,

00:28:13.060 in virology, in the relevant aspects of public health, and also are expected to stand up with advocacy

00:28:22.820 of matters that are within their scope of matters that are within their scope of practice. That's in the

00:28:28.900 document from the Royal College that defines the education and responsibilities of a general

00:28:35.620 pathologist such as myself. So I'm not speaking as an expert in any one of these micro, micro areas

00:28:45.300 where experts that have spent their careers studying one particular thing. No, I'm not that kind of person.

00:28:54.420 What I am is a senior, well-educated, well-experienced general pathologist who reads

00:29:04.020 voraciously about everything that everyone's saying internationally. And I'm right up to the

00:29:10.580 minute on that, by the way. I'm one of, I'm very privileged to be part of a group of about 12 people

00:29:17.380 who are the leading voices in this internationally, people like Professor Bakhti in Germany, Mike Yedon

00:29:23.780 in Britain, Nick Hudson in South America, South Africa, Peter McCullough in the States, Baylor College of

00:29:33.220 Medicine, Jay Bhattacharya out of Stanford. I'm very fortunate to be in frequent, sometimes daily

00:29:41.460 communication with the cream of the cream in all of this internationally. And so I'm trying to relate

00:29:49.780 to you a very balanced, up to date, bang up to date opinion on on what's going on. The reason these

00:29:58.740 doctors are publicly supporting government is very simple. They're dependent upon government.

00:30:07.860 They're usually in academic positions, where they would lose their tenure immediately if they were to

00:30:13.140 speak up. They're on the, on the, they're part of the council, they're counsellors of the College of

00:30:20.820 Physicians and Surgeons. They're simply to tick off the box on their CV that yes, tick, being on the

00:30:28.580 college, you know, one of the ultimate accolades in our profession. In my opinion, they're all brown noses. 1.00

00:30:36.820 And I would be more explicit than that. The role of the college, colleges across this country of 0.80

00:30:45.380 physicians and surgeons is very simply put, it's to protect you from me. It's to make sure I'm not cutting

00:30:52.900 off the wrong leg. It's to make sure that I'm not a pedophile. All those good things to protect you from 0.54

00:31:01.220 medicine. And they're supposed to do that independent of any influence, especially from government.

00:31:10.820 Instead of that, what they become is the enforcement arm of government policy. Instead of them getting

00:31:19.140 their teeth into me and other physicians and threatening physicians so overtly with loss of

00:31:24.180 livelihood, instead of suppressing, silencing viciously physicians to speak out, what they should be doing

00:31:34.500 is exactly the opposite. It's Orwellian in nature. They should be demanding of the medical officers of

00:31:42.020 health in each province, simply this, why are you doing this? Because it contravenes two of the most central and

00:31:52.020 important medical ethics, first do no harm and informed consent. There's obviously massive harm going

00:32:01.620 on because of lockdowns, very well documented, all kinds of things that I, you know, I could elaborate on.

00:32:09.380 But there is no informed consent for this vaccine. They're calling it safe, four letters, one word safe.

00:32:15.780 No such thing. This is an highly experimental, unsafe vaccine. And to use that word on the billboards

00:32:24.900 without qualification is the most grotesque distortion of the English language and its medical malpractice

00:32:32.820 on every billboard telling you it is safe when it is not safe. It's grotesque in its implications

00:32:42.180 because they should be banging the table, as I said, and demanding an explanation of why are you doing

00:32:47.620 this. And when the Justice Center of Constitutional Freedom, of course, in court, asked the medical

00:32:53.140 officer of health for exactly that information, why are you doing this? Despite being a year into the game,

00:33:01.300 they said they didn't have the information. Well, I'll tell you why they don't have the information. First of all,

00:33:07.460 it doesn't exist. For all these arbitrary measures that they're introducing. And secondly,

00:33:14.420 they didn't want to reveal that it didn't exist, because it was undercut the very essence of what

00:33:20.100 they're doing. So they came up with this ridiculous excuse that we haven't had enough time

00:33:27.220 to produce this information, the most ludicrous excuse you could imagine. If something of this scale 0.80

00:33:34.580 is going on, it would be expected, in fact, demanded by a minister of his bureaucrats, that you actively

00:33:44.100 monitor this and tell me what's going on. That was intentionally ignored. They just don't want to know.

00:33:54.340 That's why they weren't studying it and reporting it. And that's why they don't have the data,

00:33:59.380 because they simply simply did not want to be told it was not working and had no basis in medical

00:34:06.340 science. That's how outrageous this is. It's a pack of lies from beginning to end. A pack of lies.

00:34:16.580 I know why the doctors are doing it, but you've told me you're not a great resetter. So why do you

00:34:22.980 think the politicians are doing this, being supported by the doctors?

00:34:30.260 The politicians are getting what they demand, evidence that, quote, we are doing something.

00:34:37.700 Well, I've got to tell politicians, anyone that's listening today,

00:34:42.900 in 2021, medicine is totally impotent at controlling an upper respiratory tract viral pandemic.

00:34:51.860 It cannot be done by any means known to medical science.

00:34:57.620 If we knew that masks worked, don't you think we would have done that in all the previous flu

00:35:03.780 epidemics? Of course we would. But the reason we didn't was very simple. They were known in the

00:35:10.340 medical literature not to work. Politicians are just trying to show the public that they were doing

00:35:20.340 something, that we can protect you from this Armageddon that's being described. Well, it was

00:35:27.460 never Armageddon in the first place. And none of the measures have any basis in medical science.

00:35:34.420 But they demanded that something be done that was visible. And you can't think of anything more

00:35:40.100 visible than demanding that people walk around with diapers on their faces all the time.

00:35:44.900 Now, you've also spoken out about the social effects of the lockdown. And you've described

00:35:55.460 yourself, I've heard you repeatedly describe yourself as agnostic. I know your lovely wife

00:35:59.860 is Catholic like me. But you have attended the pro church protests to speak out against the

00:36:07.060 restrictions being placed on places of worship. Just yesterday, we had Tim Stevens arrested in

00:36:13.940 front of his crying, screaming, pleading children. How do you think our trust in government and in this

00:36:24.260 case, the police, do you think it will ever recover from what's been done these last 15 or 16 months?

00:36:33.460 I think most people are still drinking the Kool-Aid that government's dishing out,

00:36:38.420 simply because it's unopposed. All the usual sources of information, whether it's journalism,

00:36:45.300 politicians or physicians, all are being brutally suppressed, not by the colleges, in the case of

00:36:53.860 physicians, by the likes of YouTube and Facebook, social media, by our prime minister, pouring money

00:37:02.980 down the throats of mainstream media. And of course, you don't bite the hand that feeds you, do you?

00:37:08.260 So the general public, I think, are still buying into this, simply because they've had no source of

00:37:18.660 any counter information. So it will probably run its course. The sun will come up, we'll all start

00:37:27.060 making vitamin D again. What used to be called the season of coughs and colds is now being better defined

00:37:33.860 as the season of vitamin D deficiency, because it needs a certain height of the sun in the sky to

00:37:41.140 get the ultraviolet rays to make us make vitamin D in our skin. And of course, the politicians will say

00:37:48.500 when the cases start disappearing over the summer, they'll beat their chests and say, see, see, we beat

00:37:54.580 it to the ground for you, didn't we? Well, they might as well say they were the ones that made the sun come

00:38:00.180 up in the sky. I mean, it's that ridiculous. You know, nothing could have been done to stop this 0.97

00:38:07.620 pandemic. And everything that has been done has merely made life so miserable and painful and caused

00:38:15.540 so many deaths and created so much debt that our children will have to repay. The whole thing has been

00:38:22.340 scandalous. There must be investigative journalists right now, Sheila, writing the history of this madness,

00:38:32.740 because the truth will out, and it will be seen to be the most scandalous episode in human history.

00:38:39.220 Heads will roll. And as I said, there'll be blood in the gutter when those reputations are destroyed,

00:38:47.300 not the least of which is Fauci, you know, flip flop Fauci. His fingerprints are all over this from

00:38:54.740 beginning to end. But he's not the only person that will suffer. Politicians will suffer. I hope that

00:39:03.060 colleges suffer because they've been asleep at the switch on their fundamental duty to protect the

00:39:10.660 public from bad medicine. Well, hopefully that we can have you back on the show very soon. There's so

00:39:17.460 much more I want to talk to you about. And I had a lot of things on my list. But I think 45 minutes

00:39:23.860 might be long enough. And we'll have you back on very, very soon. And I know that my colleague,

00:39:28.580 Drea Humphrey is very interested in talking with you about her stop medical silencing.com campaign,

00:39:36.020 because you have been a target of that campaign, and you have somehow survived and come out the

00:39:41.460 other side. Dr. Rogers, thank you so much for coming on the show. And we'll have you back on

00:39:45.460 again very, very soon. Thank you very much. It's been a real pleasure. Thank you. Thank you.

00:39:57.380 Now, Roger tells me that the amount of support he's received for speaking out

00:40:01.460 has been overwhelming. And I know he feels a great responsibility to respond to all the messages

00:40:07.060 he gets and to tell the truth about what he sees unfolding before him. What Dr. Roger Hodgkinson

00:40:13.780 is doing in the interest of medical independence and proper oversight and transparency has and will

00:40:20.340 continue to take a great personal toll on him and his family. So please keep them in your thoughts.

00:40:26.420 Dr. Roger Hodgkinson is up against some of the most powerful people

00:40:30.580 and corporations in the world right now. Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:40:34.900 Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same time,

00:40:39.380 in the same place next week, or maybe not, I might not be in my backyard as I am right now,

00:40:44.820 but I'll be somewhere next week. And remember,

00:40:46.980 don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:41:00.580 That couldn't let the government say.

00:41:01.540 So what happened is the expirie people in their birthday and will be in the same place 1.00

00:41:04.020 as I go after the company and will allow resistance to the trouble and pass it.

00:41:06.420 Don't let your neighbor to see them until dueiation.

00:41:08.100 But thank you.

00:41:10.900 That will be the same way for you.

00:41:12.260 드디어 a lot of people

Rebel News Podcast - June 17, 2021

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Dr. Hodgkinson Returns： Real Concerns on Rushed Out Vaccines

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