SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Dr. Hodgkinson Returns： Real Concerns on Rushed Out Vaccines
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Dr. Roger Hodgkinson is a highly trained, highly credentialed doctor who has had a very prestigious education and a very successful career. But because he spoke out about what he saw as a government overreaction to what he says is a routine upper respiratory disease, he has been attacked and censored. So today, in a very requested interview, you ll meet my friend, a contender for the most censored man on the internet these days.
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Oh, hi, Rebels. You're listening to a free audio-only recording of my weekly Wednesday
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you feel like. Tonight, my guest is someone who is very much requested. It's Dr. Roger
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Hodgkinson. And we're discussing the catastrophic effects of the pandemic response by the
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government, but also the problem with medical silencing and the complete lack of skepticism
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from the medical community about the vaccine rollout, vaccine side effects, and how you
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Meeting Canada's most censored doctor, I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gun Show.
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Now, back in December, the world came to know somebody that I've already known for quite
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some time. The world came to know that he's a passionate and ethical man who cares about
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the underdog. The world was first introduced to Dr. Roger Hodgkinson after he let the politicians
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at the city of Edmonton absolutely have it. During a council meeting about the lockdown restrictions
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and the video of the whole affair went viral. Take a look.
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The bottom line is simply this. There is utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and
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politicians. It's outrageous. This is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public.
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There is absolutely nothing that can be done to contain this virus other than protecting older,
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more vulnerable people. It should be thought of nothing more than a bad flu season. This is not
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Ebola. It's not SARS. It's politics playing medicine. And that's a very dangerous game.
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Since that time, Dr. Roger Hodgkinson has become a bit of an international sensation and everybody
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found out what I knew about him all along. Now, Dr. Roger Hodgkinson, and I'll let you hear it
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from him for yourself, is a highly trained, highly credentialed doctor. He's had a very prestigious
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education and a very long and successful career. And he's an entrepreneur and a family man.
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But because he spoke out about what he saw as a government overreaction to what he says is
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a routine upper respiratory disease, he's been attacked and he's been censored, but yet he fights
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on and yet he speaks out. So today, in a very requested interview, you'll meet my friend,
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a contender for the most censored man on the internet these days, Dr. Roger Hodgkinson. Take a listen.
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So joining me now is Dr. Roger Hodgkinson. Doctor, can you, and I'm sure you've done this a
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thousand times and you've even done it before with me, but can you give us a brief, or I don't even
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think it can possibly be all that brief given your background and your education and your training,
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but can you explain to us your background and your education and training so that people can truly
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understand where you're coming from? You are not a layman with regard to disease and diagnosis at all.
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Well, I'm a retired pathologist living in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. I trained at Cambridge University
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in Britain, did my pathology training in Vancouver at the University of British Columbia. I subsequently
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became an assistant professor at the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Alberta, done a great
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deal of resident teaching in my career. I've also been the chairman of a subcommittee of the Royal
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College of Physicians and Surgeons in Ottawa, setting the annual examination for pathology residents,
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a rather important role to make sure that your breast biopsy is being read correctly.
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I've been the president of our provincial association of pathologists. I've been the CEO of a large
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commercial retail laboratory. I've practiced in the United States, in Michigan, and in California.
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I'm the chairman of an American biotechnology company in North Carolina, doing cutting-edge
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research on DNA sequencing for the early diagnosis of cancer. That's a reasonable summary of what I
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I would suggest that you're probably far more qualified than the people who are making decisions
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with regard to the coronavirus restrictions. However, that, again, is my layman's personal
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opinion. Now, you started, and it was really from the very beginning, speaking out against the
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coronavirus restrictions. And I guess at the time, it would have been the reaction or overreaction
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of government officials to the pandemic that was just then spreading out of Wuhan, China.
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Yes, I don't change a single word of what I said back in November that was the thing that went viral.
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This is nothing more than a bad flu for the vast majority of the population. Never in medical
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history have we quarantined the well to protect a few who are vulnerable. Never happened before.
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What should have happened, as I said back in November, is simply to protect the vulnerable.
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That was the consensus of the Great Barrington Declaration by three of the world's most esteemed
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epidemiologists, protecting the vulnerable. The older people in nursing homes with comorbidities
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should have been exactly where it was at, and life should have gone on exactly as normal,
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without the massive consequences of so many things that rolled out from the declaration of an emergency,
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which never was an emergency in the usual sense of the word. If you take away the definition of this
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being an emergency, that undercuts the very reason to have an emergency authorization for a vaccine,
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and vaccine passports, and da-da-da-da, you know, the whole thing was a series of knock-on consequences
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that resulted in this horrendous medical mess that will go down in history as the most grotesque example
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of mistakes in medicine, of medical malpractice, of the most enormous scale, because we're injecting this
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untested vaccine as we speak into billions of arms without going through the usual testing
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for no good reason whatsoever. And that includes injecting into children with all kinds of potential
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complications that we may talk about later on. You know, let's go there right away, because you and I
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were talking yesterday on the phone about your concerns with not only the untested vaccines,
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but also the idea that we are now giving them to children. And even still, as we're seeing complications
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arise out of places like Israel, where they have a little bit longer history with the vaccine than we
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do here in North America, they're still proceeding with this idea that kids, the least vulnerable
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to the coronavirus, must be vaccinated for, in our instance, for our province to be allowed to reopen.
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Yes, let's discuss those one at a time, specifically myocarditis and infertility.
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Myocarditis is a technical medical word for inflammation of the heart.
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A large number of adult males in Israel are coming down with this problem. It's of serious concern.
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It cannot be dismissed as the CDC is dismissing it as mild. There is no such thing as a mild myocarditis.
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Allow me to explain. We're talking here about inflammation of the heart in young men who are
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previously perfectly well. Now, myocarditis means that you are killing randomly a variable number. We
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don't know for sure, because the person is still alive. You're killing a large number of
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individual heart muscle cells. The heart is distinguished from other organs in that it does
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not regenerate. The kidneys and the liver do. Whoa. That caught me by surprise.
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Are we having a thunderstorm? It's going to come my way after it's done with you.
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I saw the lightning first and I wondered what the heck it was. When you kill off
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heart muscle cells, they do not regenerate. It's well known in medicine that myocarditis,
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when you recover from it, it can result in heart failure decades later and all kinds of other
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cardiac complications. It cannot be predicted. It's never mild. It's very serious. And that's the very
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reason the CDC is holding an emergency meeting tomorrow to look at whether or not this is sufficient
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to stop vaccination in young males. And that would extend to children as well, of course.
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So that is, it's very concerning. And that's precisely the reason why clinical trials continue
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for the length of time they do. Four or five, seven years is not unusual. Because you don't know what
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you don't know. The whole purpose of a clinical trial is to identify unexpected complications and
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to quantify how many of them there are and how bad they are. That has not been done. All predicated on
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an emergency which does not exist. The vast majority of the population are not dying of COVID. If they
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get COVID, they're working well, as I call them, they might have a flu-like illness. But the vast
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majority of them are not dying in greater numbers than they have done with previous flu epidemics.
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And that's why I'm saying it's really no worse than a bad seasonal flu. Allow me to elaborate,
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Sheila, on the statistical sleight of hand. You might call it lying. It's certainly pandering to fear
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instead of optimism. If you were granny in a nursing home and I'm your doc, I could walk in to you one
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morning and say rather glumly, Granny, it's true. You've got COVID. You know, your risk of dying of this is
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about four times as much as it was with the flu last year. And granny would say to me, well,
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that sounds pretty grim, doesn't it, doc? What are we going to do about this? On the other hand,
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I could walk in and see see granny and say this, say this to you, granny. Granny, you know, it's true,
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you've got COVID. But remember last year when you had the flu and you recovered so well, you had a 99%
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chance of beating that and you did, didn't you? Well, this time around, you've got a 96% chance
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of beating it. So that doesn't sound too bad, does it? And granny would say, no, it sure doesn't, doc.
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Let me get out of here. You see how, you see how they constantly, constantly morph the game
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into something that is, that's creating fear instead of a balanced opinion as to what's happening,
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just like PCR and false positives and so-called cases. And I mean, I could go on and on and on.
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The sleight of hand is, is just, you have to consider it to be intentional.
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Now, let's talk about some of the other complications that we talked about off camera
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yesterday with regards to the vaccine that, you know, and I think it's important for us to talk
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about them because the mainstream media is, is very suppressive when it comes to talking about the other
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side of this story. But you talked about the problems with infertility that could be developing
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because of the vaccines, but also a phrase that I had never heard before until you used it. And I
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follow this very closely. So that tells you how much the information is being suppressed. And you,
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it was called contagious vaccinosis. Am I saying that properly?
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That is correct. Yeah. Well, let's do with those one at a time. The, the concern regarding fertility
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is not proven for the very simple reason that the trials did not continue long enough.
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The last time I checked, Sheila, and you can vouch for this yourself, pregnancy takes nine months.
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Well, if pregnancy takes nine months, how can you conceivably check on fertility
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if your clinical trial only extends for four to six months? And furthermore, by intention,
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you exclude pregnant women, obviously impossible. And yet this is a standard investigation for the
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introduction of any new medication or vaccine for obvious reasons. Fertility is terribly important.
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Now the evidence for concern is this, and it differs for males and females. It just so happens that the,
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the submission that Pfizer made to the Japanese authorities in Japanese has just become available
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and translated. The experiments they conducted were in rats in terms of the distribution of these
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virus particles that are in part of the vaccine, these nanoparticles made of lipid, a fatty substance.
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And they showed in that, in that bio distribution study, a most unexpected finding in rats, admittedly,
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in rats, that there was very heavy concentration of these virus particles in the ovaries,
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totally unexpected. Exactly why we do trials to find out things that you cannot predict.
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And so it was in rats, admittedly, but that is the kind of thing that should have prompted an enormous
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red flag to investigate the possibility. And it's no more than that at this time. I'm not trying to be a
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scaremonger here. I'm saying this is based in science and reasonable concern about what the science says.
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That would be a very solid reason not to, not to vaccinate women and girls with this vaccine until it was
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shown not to be the case. With boys and men, it's a different story. The whole intent of this vaccine
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is to produce spike protein, which is the which is then presented to the immune system to create an immune
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reaction to theoretically, I use that word advisedly, protect you from getting a real COVID infection.
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In some people, an excess of spike protein is produced that travels around the body and is the
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reason for all these complications that we're now becoming aware of, such as myocarditis, such as blood
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clots in the brain, such as blood clots in the legs, etc, etc. But there are other organs that have
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a very high expression of the receptor for this spike protein. In addition to the inside of blood
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vessels, I'm getting ahead of myself here, we get all these thrombotic events, these blood clots events,
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because the receptor for the spike protein in the peripheral blood is on the inside of blood vessels.
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That's why we get these thrombotic events. But that receptor, that ACE2 receptor, ACE2 receptor,
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is also present in very high, it's very highly expressed in the placenta and the testis, not the
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ovary, but the testis and the placenta. So you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that if
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if there is attack on the testis and the placenta by the spike protein, that this certainly should raise
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concerns about the viability of pregnancies in the early stages, perhaps, and also about male infertility.
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So that's the background of the infertility story. It's not proven. That's precisely because the
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clinical trials did not continue long enough. And it's obviously very, very important. I hope I'm
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wrong. I don't want to be a scaremonger. I spent my entire life in evidence-based medicine. All I'm
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doing here is blowing the whistle and saying, this needs to be investigated before any more
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vaccinations are performed on anybody. That's the story on infertility.
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Now, about the contagious vaccinosis, I think this is such a fascinating thing because,
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again, if what's happening here holds true, then unvaccinated people could potentially be at risk
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Yes. My first reaction when I heard these stories was, this is ridiculous. Come on,
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get a grip on yourselves. This couldn't conceivably. This is mass hysteria. Well, let me tell you
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something. Medicine is replete, and these are largely women that are making complaints. Medicine is,
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history of medicine is replete with dismissing women, female complaints as hysterical. And it's a very
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brave doc that does that without investigation to show that it's not plausible.
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Well, it turns out that there is some plausibility to it, quite apart from the number of people who
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are making these complaints, largely women, some of them postmenopausal, who are starting to have periods
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again. In the actual Pfizer clinical trial documentation, they described the need to be alert
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to this possibly happening, which means they were ahead of the game. They knew it was possible
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and it needed to be looked for. But what's rather sinister is, in that very same protocol, they said,
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do not report this to the clinical trial coordinator as an adverse reaction of the vaccine.
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Simply report it to the trial coordinator separately, so it would not be recorded as an adverse reaction.
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Now, that's rather sinister. That's in their submission, in their clinical trial protocol.
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But it goes much deeper than that. There is a report out of Wuhan, strangely enough.
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Some Chinese pathologists did an autopsy on someone who died of COVID. And they showed,
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this is the infection now, they showed very clearly that the virus located in sweat glands.
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And they actually pointed out in their paper that this might imply the possibility of transmission
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through sweat and therefore aerosolized transmission that other people breathe in. Now, remember,
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this is for the virus, not for the vaccine. But they did demonstrate a high concentration of the
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same receptor, this ACE2 receptor in the sweat glands for the spike protein. So the partial, and I underline
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that in neon, I'm not saying this is proven. I'm saying this is the partial hypothesis that could explain
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this problem of what's now being called contagious vaccinosis.
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It could be that excess spike protein locates in the sweat glands, enters the sweat, is aerosolized,
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and breathed in by bystanders. These reports are concerning people who have not just had a trivial
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contact with someone who's vaccinated, but some people who've been caregivers or in a family setting
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or whatever, who've been in close contact with someone who's been vaccinated and could have been, could have
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potentially inhaled sufficient spike protein to get inside their body by some means not yet known
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and produce these effects that are being described. There's a number of problems with that hypothesis,
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not the least of which is the likely dose that someone would inhale,
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and also the mechanism by which the spike protein may or may not penetrate the respiratory tract.
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There are no studies that I'm aware of that have that have studied.
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It's well known about the penetration of the respiratory tract by the virus,
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but I'm not aware of any studies regarding the transmissibility of the spike protein
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through the respiratory tract surface. So that's where we are with contagious vaccinosis right now.
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We have, we have the plausibility, partial plausibility of it from a scientific perspective.
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We have the recognition by Pfizer that it could happen and wants to be looked for in the clinical trials.
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And we have the scientific underpinning of it of knowing that there's heavy
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ACE2 receptor expression in sweat glands. And on top of that, we have the large number of reports
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swirling around the internet of people alleging that they're having problems because of being close to
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someone who's been vaccinated. Now it's, it's terribly important that I'm not labeled here as some
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scaremonger, some quack, some, you know, some looney tune. I'm simply drawing attention to some of the
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science behind this. And it should be investigated.
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Now, that's one of the things I wanted to talk to you about, because I think that you are probably
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the most censored man on the internet for your very reasonable and balanced approach to the science
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of the pandemic. I know myself, if I were to post a video of you to my Facebook page,
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the potential is that my Facebook page could be disappeared altogether. But I know for sure
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that YouTube or Facebook, they are going to pull that video down as misinformation.
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And I know you've been labeled as an anti-vaxxer, but I've heard you say repeatedly that you are
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not at all an anti-vaxxer, you received vaccine yourself, that's not your concern. Your concern is
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the lack of investigation of this specific slate of vaccines. I wanted to ask you, you know,
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could I just say to that, Sheila, I have lived my life, my entire career in evidence-based medicine,
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mainstream, kept my nose clean, doc. All right. That's me. I'm not one to exaggerate. I'm not one
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to scare people. Not at all. I'm just standing up as a whistleblower because I believe a madness of
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indescribable scale is being perpetrated by these politicians aided and abetted by their medical
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officers of health. That's why I'm standing up. I'm sorry to interject that, but I'm not an anti-vaxxer.
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I take vaccines myself. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm not a great resetter. None of the above. No,
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no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm simply trying to educate people about the things that are being suppressed.
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No, I've known you for years, and I think you're one of the most level-headed and thoughtful people
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I've ever encountered in my sphere of conservatism. Now, I wanted to talk to you about
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the attacks on your reputation and your credibility from other doctors who are completely buying in
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to the COVID pandemic narrative without any sort of skepticism at all. What have you experienced?
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I've been paying attention, but I think our viewers need to hear it from you.
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Well, I've been attacked by my own college, of course, for talking, quote, outside of my scope of
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practice, close quotes. Well, you know, we told the college that, according to the Royal College of
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Physicians and Surgeons of Canada, of which, by the way, as I said, I was the chairman of a board that
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set the examination for pathologists nationally. The college is saying I'm outside of my scope of
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practice. Well, actually, general pathologists are trained in infectious disease, in bacteriology,
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in virology, in the relevant aspects of public health, and also are expected to stand up with advocacy
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of matters that are within their scope of matters that are within their scope of practice. That's in the
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document from the Royal College that defines the education and responsibilities of a general
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pathologist such as myself. So I'm not speaking as an expert in any one of these micro, micro areas
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where experts that have spent their careers studying one particular thing. No, I'm not that kind of person.
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What I am is a senior, well-educated, well-experienced general pathologist who reads
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voraciously about everything that everyone's saying internationally. And I'm right up to the
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minute on that, by the way. I'm one of, I'm very privileged to be part of a group of about 12 people
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who are the leading voices in this internationally, people like Professor Bakhti in Germany, Mike Yedon
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in Britain, Nick Hudson in South America, South Africa, Peter McCullough in the States, Baylor College of
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Medicine, Jay Bhattacharya out of Stanford. I'm very fortunate to be in frequent, sometimes daily
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communication with the cream of the cream in all of this internationally. And so I'm trying to relate
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to you a very balanced, up to date, bang up to date opinion on on what's going on. The reason these
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doctors are publicly supporting government is very simple. They're dependent upon government.
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They're usually in academic positions, where they would lose their tenure immediately if they were to
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speak up. They're on the, on the, they're part of the council, they're counsellors of the College of
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Physicians and Surgeons. They're simply to tick off the box on their CV that yes, tick, being on the
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college, you know, one of the ultimate accolades in our profession. In my opinion, they're all brown noses.
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And I would be more explicit than that. The role of the college, colleges across this country of
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physicians and surgeons is very simply put, it's to protect you from me. It's to make sure I'm not cutting
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off the wrong leg. It's to make sure that I'm not a pedophile. All those good things to protect you from
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medicine. And they're supposed to do that independent of any influence, especially from government.
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Instead of that, what they become is the enforcement arm of government policy. Instead of them getting
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their teeth into me and other physicians and threatening physicians so overtly with loss of
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livelihood, instead of suppressing, silencing viciously physicians to speak out, what they should be doing
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is exactly the opposite. It's Orwellian in nature. They should be demanding of the medical officers of
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health in each province, simply this, why are you doing this? Because it contravenes two of the most central and
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important medical ethics, first do no harm and informed consent. There's obviously massive harm going
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on because of lockdowns, very well documented, all kinds of things that I, you know, I could elaborate on.
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But there is no informed consent for this vaccine. They're calling it safe, four letters, one word safe.
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No such thing. This is an highly experimental, unsafe vaccine. And to use that word on the billboards
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without qualification is the most grotesque distortion of the English language and its medical malpractice
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on every billboard telling you it is safe when it is not safe. It's grotesque in its implications
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because they should be banging the table, as I said, and demanding an explanation of why are you doing
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this. And when the Justice Center of Constitutional Freedom, of course, in court, asked the medical
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officer of health for exactly that information, why are you doing this? Despite being a year into the game,
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they said they didn't have the information. Well, I'll tell you why they don't have the information. First of all,
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it doesn't exist. For all these arbitrary measures that they're introducing. And secondly,
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they didn't want to reveal that it didn't exist, because it was undercut the very essence of what
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they're doing. So they came up with this ridiculous excuse that we haven't had enough time
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to produce this information, the most ludicrous excuse you could imagine. If something of this scale
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is going on, it would be expected, in fact, demanded by a minister of his bureaucrats, that you actively
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monitor this and tell me what's going on. That was intentionally ignored. They just don't want to know.
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That's why they weren't studying it and reporting it. And that's why they don't have the data,
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because they simply simply did not want to be told it was not working and had no basis in medical
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science. That's how outrageous this is. It's a pack of lies from beginning to end. A pack of lies.
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I know why the doctors are doing it, but you've told me you're not a great resetter. So why do you
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think the politicians are doing this, being supported by the doctors?
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The politicians are getting what they demand, evidence that, quote, we are doing something.
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Well, I've got to tell politicians, anyone that's listening today,
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in 2021, medicine is totally impotent at controlling an upper respiratory tract viral pandemic.
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It cannot be done by any means known to medical science.
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If we knew that masks worked, don't you think we would have done that in all the previous flu
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epidemics? Of course we would. But the reason we didn't was very simple. They were known in the
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medical literature not to work. Politicians are just trying to show the public that they were doing
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something, that we can protect you from this Armageddon that's being described. Well, it was
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never Armageddon in the first place. And none of the measures have any basis in medical science.
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But they demanded that something be done that was visible. And you can't think of anything more
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visible than demanding that people walk around with diapers on their faces all the time.
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Now, you've also spoken out about the social effects of the lockdown. And you've described
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yourself, I've heard you repeatedly describe yourself as agnostic. I know your lovely wife
00:35:59.860
is Catholic like me. But you have attended the pro church protests to speak out against the
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restrictions being placed on places of worship. Just yesterday, we had Tim Stevens arrested in
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front of his crying, screaming, pleading children. How do you think our trust in government and in this
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case, the police, do you think it will ever recover from what's been done these last 15 or 16 months?
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I think most people are still drinking the Kool-Aid that government's dishing out,
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simply because it's unopposed. All the usual sources of information, whether it's journalism,
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politicians or physicians, all are being brutally suppressed, not by the colleges, in the case of
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physicians, by the likes of YouTube and Facebook, social media, by our prime minister, pouring money
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down the throats of mainstream media. And of course, you don't bite the hand that feeds you, do you?
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So the general public, I think, are still buying into this, simply because they've had no source of
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any counter information. So it will probably run its course. The sun will come up, we'll all start
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making vitamin D again. What used to be called the season of coughs and colds is now being better defined
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as the season of vitamin D deficiency, because it needs a certain height of the sun in the sky to
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get the ultraviolet rays to make us make vitamin D in our skin. And of course, the politicians will say
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when the cases start disappearing over the summer, they'll beat their chests and say, see, see, we beat
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it to the ground for you, didn't we? Well, they might as well say they were the ones that made the sun come
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up in the sky. I mean, it's that ridiculous. You know, nothing could have been done to stop this
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pandemic. And everything that has been done has merely made life so miserable and painful and caused
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so many deaths and created so much debt that our children will have to repay. The whole thing has been
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scandalous. There must be investigative journalists right now, Sheila, writing the history of this madness,
00:38:32.740
because the truth will out, and it will be seen to be the most scandalous episode in human history.
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Heads will roll. And as I said, there'll be blood in the gutter when those reputations are destroyed,
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not the least of which is Fauci, you know, flip flop Fauci. His fingerprints are all over this from
00:38:54.740
beginning to end. But he's not the only person that will suffer. Politicians will suffer. I hope that
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colleges suffer because they've been asleep at the switch on their fundamental duty to protect the
00:39:10.660
public from bad medicine. Well, hopefully that we can have you back on the show very soon. There's so
00:39:17.460
much more I want to talk to you about. And I had a lot of things on my list. But I think 45 minutes
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might be long enough. And we'll have you back on very, very soon. And I know that my colleague,
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Drea Humphrey is very interested in talking with you about her stop medical silencing.com campaign,
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because you have been a target of that campaign, and you have somehow survived and come out the
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other side. Dr. Rogers, thank you so much for coming on the show. And we'll have you back on
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again very, very soon. Thank you very much. It's been a real pleasure. Thank you. Thank you.
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Now, Roger tells me that the amount of support he's received for speaking out
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has been overwhelming. And I know he feels a great responsibility to respond to all the messages
00:40:07.060
he gets and to tell the truth about what he sees unfolding before him. What Dr. Roger Hodgkinson
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is doing in the interest of medical independence and proper oversight and transparency has and will
00:40:20.340
continue to take a great personal toll on him and his family. So please keep them in your thoughts.
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Dr. Roger Hodgkinson is up against some of the most powerful people
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and corporations in the world right now. Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.
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Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same time,
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in the same place next week, or maybe not, I might not be in my backyard as I am right now,
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don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.
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So what happened is the expirie people in their birthday and will be in the same place
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as I go after the company and will allow resistance to the trouble and pass it.
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Don't let your neighbor to see them until dueiation.