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00:00:00.000 Oh hi Rebels, it's me, Sheila Gunn-Reed, your favorite journalist, or at least I hope that

00:00:04.860 I'm somewhere in the top 8 to 10. Anyway, you're listening to a free, audio-only recording

00:00:10.120 of my weekly Wednesday night show, The Gun Show. It's Wednesday night, I'm recording

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00:00:21.480 convenience of not being tied to traditional, old-fashioned, boring, dying TV. Tonight my

00:00:28.500 guest is Dr. Roger Hodkinson. He was on the show a little while ago. He's back by popular

00:00:35.020 demand. We got a lot of really great feedback, people wanting to hear more from him, and good

00:00:40.420 news because Dr. Roger had a lot more to say. We're talking about a lot of things, how the

00:00:47.900 science seems to be changing day by day with regard to vaccinations, masking, mixing vaccines,

00:00:56.660 vaccine injuries, and truly I think the most tragic part in all of this is the effect the

00:01:04.360 lockdown has had on children and their mental health. Now, if you like listening to the show,

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00:02:28.080 What changed in vaccine news this week? Today we're catching up with Canada's

00:02:34.640 most censored doctor. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:02:42.240 You know, just a week ago, if you called the Alberta government to book your second dose

00:03:02.100 of a vaccine, they would tell you that it was perfectly okay, perfectly safe to mix vaccine

00:03:10.460 manufacturers. So if you got a Moderna, you could get a Pfizer the second time around. If you got

00:03:14.580 Pfizer the first time, you could safely take Moderna as your second shot. Now, I've even heard

00:03:21.360 anecdotal stories from people I trust quite explicitly, who have told me that when they

00:03:28.980 questioned the advice from pharmacists and online bookers that it was perfectly fine to mix vaccines,

00:03:36.040 they were sort of scoffed at. But as is the case with literally everything to do with the coronavirus

00:03:43.760 pandemic, the recommendations have suddenly changed basically overnight. Here's the story in

00:03:51.540 global news. The World Health Organization's chief scientist on Monday advised against people mixing

00:03:59.280 and matching COVID-19 vaccines from different manufacturers, calling it a dangerous trend since

00:04:08.240 there was little data about its health impact. So mixing vaccines that was safe on Friday, but dangerous

00:04:15.540 on Monday. However, I would tend to agree with the World Health Organization's chief scientist here for

00:04:22.600 once when he says that there is very little data here because that's the case with everything to do

00:04:30.520 with the coronavirus pandemic. There's very little data to do with any of this. However, if you question

00:04:35.920 the very little data, you can immediately become censored and othered, such as the case with my guest

00:04:43.240 tonight. He's a good friend to me, good friend to Rebel News, and good friend to the show. It's Dr.

00:04:49.320 Roger Hodkinson. Now, Dr. Roger has a CV that reads more like a book. He's an Oxford-educated

00:04:59.040 pathologist and entrepreneur. He's worked in the medical examiner's office. He was the staff

00:05:04.680 pathologist at a major hospital in Edmonton. He's also a general practitioner, associate professor

00:05:11.280 at the University of Alberta, president of the Alberta Society of Laboratory Physicians,

00:05:17.560 and a chairman of a Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons committee in Ottawa. Dr. Roger's

00:05:26.700 credentials are truly endless. However, he's repeatedly been censored, and it gets worse than that. Anybody

00:05:34.260 who posts anything related to Dr. Roger also gets censored. And I think it's because Roger points

00:05:41.620 out that there is very little data regarding anything to do with the coronavirus. You see,

00:05:46.760 Dr. Roger Hodkinson has said the same thing for a year already that the chief scientist at the World

00:05:54.140 Health Organization is saying now. But if Roger says it, he's censored and attacked professionally

00:06:01.680 and personally. But Roger's not wrong. And so I wanted to have Roger on the show today to talk about

00:06:08.980 what's changed in the approximately one month since I had him on the show last regarding

00:06:16.180 coronavirus and vaccine science. Because Dr. Roger is one of the few people in medicine in Canada who is

00:06:24.860 loudly doing what the mainstream actually tells us all to do, and that's follow the science. Dr. Roger's

00:06:32.640 following the science instead of just blindly marching along, accepting the narrative. Joining

00:06:39.160 me tonight in an interview we recorded yesterday afternoon is my friend, the incredible Dr. Roger

00:06:45.860 Hodkinson. Joining me now from his office just outside of Edmonton, Alberta is good friend of Rebel News and

00:07:09.840 good friend of Freedom and Medical Independence, Dr. Roger Hodkinson. My mouth doesn't want to say Dr. Roger's name,

00:07:20.040 but it's important that we get our facts straight and our words straight. Dr. Roger, I wanted to have you on the show

00:07:25.840 because there's so much information that has come out just in between when we spoke last time and now. And the one thing

00:07:35.960 that's on the top of my mind that's on the top of my mind as a mother with kids within the age of this push to vaccinate kids

00:07:44.240 has been the effect of the COVID lockdown on children. And while there has been a lot of medical censorship and medical

00:07:55.960 silencing, sick kids in Toronto somehow has managed to escape a lot of it. And the one thing that I want to point

00:08:05.800 to is that they have released recent research actually just the other day that it shows the evidence of the impact of the

00:08:19.420 lockdown on the mental health of kids. So, um, where most people are most children who have already had

00:08:29.900 existing problems with anxiety and mental health, by and large, they're reporting rapid deterioration. So

00:08:37.400 they say, and I'll, I'll quote directly from their article. One concerning finding from their study

00:08:43.280 was the significant proportion of otherwise healthy school-aged children who experienced a deterioration

00:08:52.800 in a number of mental health domains, including depression at nearly 38%, anxiety at nearly 39%,

00:09:03.440 irritability at nearly 41%, and attention span problems at 41%. So these are actually,

00:09:12.080 healthy kids, healthy kids, healthy kids, and we have given them this, these problems with the lockdown.

00:09:20.140 And all for no reason. All for absolutely no reason at all. The litany of consequences for children

00:09:29.680 beyond mental health, I can speak to Alberta. The last stat that I saw where there's been a 200%

00:09:36.860 increase in calls to the teenage suicide line, um, with those ridiculous lockdowns that basically had

00:09:44.060 them shuttered in their rooms. Um, the, the litany of consequences just keeps on growing, um,

00:09:51.180 quite apart from the, the serious psychological consequences. We have the retardation of, um, toddlers, um,

00:10:03.340 failing to appreciate non-verbal communication, which is a very important aspect of, of education for a young child,

00:10:11.180 uh, seeing expressions on the, on the, on the, on an adult's face. We have the very disturbing reports of myocarditis in young males,

00:10:20.860 um, you know, described as, um, mild, essentially by CDC. Let me tell everyone listening, uh, there's nothing mild about myocarditis.

00:10:31.020 It's an inflammation of the heart pump. And we know in medicine from myocarditis due to other viruses before COVID,

00:10:40.620 that this can reduce the heart reserve, um, many years later, decades later, and result in premature onset

00:10:49.020 of heart failure, for example, uh, all resulting from a very unnecessary vaccination of children because

00:10:57.100 they're not coming down with this condition any more than a mild cold or cough. Uh, they're certainly not dying of it.

00:11:04.540 There hasn't been a single death in, in children in North America, um, from COVID other than children with serious underlying disease.

00:11:13.340 So they're not coming down with it. They're not spreading it to teachers. Uh, that's been shown conclusively.

00:11:19.980 And therefore there is absolutely no reason to contemplate vaccinating them, even if the vaccine

00:11:26.940 was shown, shown to be safe, because it's just not needed. There are always complications from vaccines,

00:11:32.380 even after they've been finally declared safe. But of course, this one has not been declared safe.

00:11:39.100 Um, government is using that word without any qualification whatsoever. That itself is, is really despicable.

00:11:47.260 Um, this is not a safe vaccine for anyone. It's not been through the usual rigorous clinical trials,

00:11:55.340 but it's certainly not safe for children. And it's certainly not safe for pregnant women who are getting this vaccine as we speak.

00:12:04.540 And now we find increasing evidence of other complications, Guillain-Barre syndrome, uh, paralysis of the legs,

00:12:11.980 and sometimes the arms as well. Those numbers are also growing. So heart attacks in children in the States,

00:12:19.980 in the VAERS reporting system, heart attacks in children. So I think you can see where I'm going with

00:12:26.540 this. Um, I call it state sanctioned child abuse to vaccinate children for something that they don't need,

00:12:34.780 and which is known not to be safe. And that's quite apart from the, the long-term complications,

00:12:42.140 which are completely unstudied, namely the potential for infertility affecting both boys and girls.

00:12:50.540 That is potentially a nightmare. There's good scientific evidence to be concerned about it, not just as a

00:12:57.020 random possibility, but certain, certain medical evidence that makes that very concerning. And it's

00:13:06.460 just not being investigated. Look, you pregnancy takes nine months. At the very minimum, you do a

00:13:13.420 clinical trial for nine months. Um, that's not being done. Um, these trials should really have taken

00:13:20.620 place over a period of years, given the fact that this was not an emergency in the first place.

00:13:26.540 It's not Ebola. It's not SARS. It could have waited until we had full documentation from clinical

00:13:33.820 trials. The essence of a clinical trial is to answer the question. We don't know what we don't know.

00:13:40.300 That's why we do clinical trials. And now we're finding coming out of the woodwork,

00:13:44.780 all these serious complications that some of which are involving children, that should be a reason to

00:13:53.260 stop vaccination of children immediately and not induce them with, with ice cream and lollipops. And

00:14:01.260 you know, the peer pressure that goes along in the classroom when the nurse is saying,

00:14:05.180 come on, get in line, roll your sleeve up, jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, jab. You know,

00:14:08.940 no informed consent, even if they were capable of understanding it. So vaccination of children contravenes

00:14:15.820 two central medical ethics. First, do no harm. And secondly, informed consent. Neither of those are

00:14:22.780 happening with vaccination of children. Now, I want to talk about the vaccine still, because you're,

00:14:31.420 you're so well informed about this. And, you know, as recently as earlier in the week, Sunday,

00:14:39.660 um, it was perfectly fine, according to accepted medical science. And if you thought the other way,

00:14:46.140 you were some sort of conspiracy theorist, it was perfectly fine to mix vaccines. And in Alberta,

00:14:51.580 if you called to book your second vaccine appointment, the pharmacist or whoever was

00:14:58.620 taking the booking would say, Oh, no, no, it's fine. You can mix Moderna and Pfizer. And now,

00:15:04.220 you know, the directive on that has suddenly changed, come out of the World Health Organization.

00:15:10.620 And I think this goes to the fact that there are literally no studies. And there's a lot of,

00:15:18.460 you know, if you have any questions, just shut up about it.

00:15:23.500 It's a guess, like so many other things, there's no, there's no complete studies on that. It's obviously

00:15:30.300 an accommodation to the reality that they've run out of certain vaccines and want to substitute other

00:15:35.820 ones that that's going down the wrong rabbit hole. Not that you should go down any rabbit holes in this

00:15:43.100 condition. It's the wrong argument. It, the argument should not be about, is it safe to mix vaccines?

00:15:51.340 The argument should go back right to the very start of the process of decision making, which was

00:15:57.820 based upon this being alleged to be a public health emergency, which it was not and still is not,

00:16:05.740 because the working well are dying in fewer numbers than they did with the flu.

00:16:10.700 It's the older people with comorbidities in nursing homes that need to be protected with extra measures.

00:16:17.260 So the whole argument about different vaccines, different doses, who gets it, who doesn't,

00:16:23.580 is utterly irrelevant in my opinion, because this was not needed in the first place as an emergency

00:16:31.980 response, because it was not an emergency and still is not an emergency.

00:16:38.700 Well, and I think too, as you rightly point out, it is the elderly, particularly in long-term care

00:16:46.300 facilities who are at the greatest risk of dying of this disease, but that's really nothing new.

00:16:53.580 That is, that is a symptom of every single flu season and a failing of government regulation and

00:16:59.500 government oversight in long-term care facilities during every single flu season. What made this one so different?

00:17:07.340 It's not. That's the whole point, other than for those people that are very vulnerable. And the elderly

00:17:13.980 in nursing homes, I hate to use the word, the new vernacular, because it's new words have been introduced

00:17:20.380 into our vernacular because of this COVID nonsense. Elderly people in nursing homes are self-quarantined

00:17:29.340 by definition. They're in a place with four walls and a door. That means it has in and out control.

00:17:35.820 It also means that because they're inside all the time, by definition, they're all vitamin D deficient.

00:17:43.020 And for those that are not in nursing homes, the elderly that go, or anyone else for that matter,

00:17:48.140 that goes to a hospital with shortness of breath, headache, cough, fever, and they think they might

00:17:54.220 have COVID, and they get a test in that environment that's positive, which is probably a true positive if

00:17:59.820 it matches the symptoms, as opposed to the enormous false positives in the working well.

00:18:04.380 But if you go into a hospital with that syndrome of complaints, and a test that matches it,

00:18:13.100 guess what happens next? You get a PO2, an oxygen level done on you. And if that's not low enough,

00:18:21.420 basically, they say go home. Well, go home, okay, subtext medically is come back when you're blue,

00:18:31.660 you're not sick enough. So those people are being sent home without any treatment whatsoever, except

00:18:40.460 simply wait and see what happens. Instead of allowing physicians to prescribe agents that may well work,

00:18:52.460 but which are known to be very, very safe, ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. Those are now prohibited

00:18:59.980 from use by physicians to treat early symptoms of COVID-19 before people come back blue. That prohibition

00:19:10.860 is medical malpractice. So I guess my next question is, why the prohibition? Because we know hydroxychloroquine

00:19:20.860 has been used worldwide safely. And we know ivermectin has been used for decades.

00:19:27.180 If anybody has animals that they've had veterinary concerns with, ivermectin is used frequently for

00:19:37.180 animals as well. I mean, this is a safe and effective drug. So I guess my next question is,

00:19:44.540 why are they prohibiting use of these?

00:19:50.460 They need to explain it, don't they? I'm not there to make excuses for them. I think

00:19:57.020 it's reprehensible. Because of this, look, they can't say out of one side of their mouth,

00:20:04.620 this is an emergency, which is not, but let's accept it. This is an emergency. It demands the use of a jab

00:20:12.620 in every arm with an unsafe product. Ignore those billboards that say get vaccinated, it's safe. That's

00:20:20.780 such a gross distortion of not just the English language, but how the word is used medically.

00:20:27.020 But let's accept that for a second. That it really is an emergency, as they say, and it demands the

00:20:33.260 introduction of an unsafe product into every arm. Okay. So if you're saying that out of one side of

00:20:40.300 your mouth, you cannot say out of the other side of your mouth, we prohibit you from using agents that

00:20:47.660 might save a life that are known to be safe. We prohibit you. You can't have it both ways.

00:20:55.100 Either it's an emergency and it's not. If it is an emergency, individual physicians should be allowed

00:21:01.020 to use their good professional judgment with a patient in front of them to try and prevent them

00:21:09.260 from dying. And that is being actively prohibited, not just in Alberta, but right across this country.

00:21:19.500 You know, it is very fascinating because as you point out, again, doctors use drugs all the time

00:21:24.860 off label because they think they're going to be effective. And these drugs are cheap, easy and

00:21:32.140 already approved. They've gone through decades of human use and yet they're not allowed to be used for

00:21:39.740 this disease. And, and not even when the person is at imminent risk of dying, when you should be able

00:21:49.260 to use whatever you think is going to work at that minute. It's, it's the early treatment that's being

00:21:55.660 missed. When you get to the point where you're coming back to hospital blue, you're in a much more

00:22:03.180 dangerous situation because the ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine don't work as effectively

00:22:09.660 in the later stages of the disease as they do in the early stages. Dr. Peter McCullough, who's taken

00:22:16.060 the lead on this in the States has projected, given his vast experience, he treats people with COVID as

00:22:24.540 well as being a cardiologist. Of the 600,000 or so deaths in the States that are being attributed

00:22:33.020 to COVID-19, he estimates that a half a million of those could have been saved if they had been treated

00:22:41.740 early with his cocktail of drugs that includes ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and vitamin D

00:22:49.100 and, and some other agents. That's, that's a disastrous consequence of inaction with safe agents.

00:23:01.820 You see what, what these, what these bureaucrats don't appreciate is when you're practicing medicine

00:23:08.780 and you have someone sick in front of you and potentially going to get into trouble,

00:23:16.220 you are obligated to do the very best that you can for that person ethically, given your training

00:23:23.100 and the drugs that are available and the risk of the risk benefit analysis that you're aware of. That

00:23:30.620 is our profession. And that is being taken away from us by government.

00:23:37.660 Now, I do want to talk to you about that in, in a minute, because you are really butting heads with

00:23:43.020 some professional agencies. Before we get there, I want to talk to you about the Delta variant,

00:23:50.460 variant, and I suppose the Lambda variant, these guys better slow down, they're going to run out of

00:23:55.820 letters to name these things after. But in Israel, the number of fully vaccinated people

00:24:05.180 contracting these variants has overtaken the number of people who are unvaccinated who are contracting

00:24:13.340 these variants. And so the way governments always do, they say, okay, well, then you need a third

00:24:19.820 dose of Pfizer, just doing more of the same failed thing, instead of stopping pumping the brakes and

00:24:26.140 assessing what's going on here.

00:24:27.660 The Delta variant is apparently more transmissible, but it is not more dangerous. In fact, it's less

00:24:37.740 dangerous. It's causing less disease, less severe disease than the other variants. So I take the

00:24:45.900 position that is a good thing. It's not a scarient. It's not something to be fearful of. It's something

00:24:54.540 you don't want to encourage spread. But the natural transmission that occurs just from ordinary

00:25:02.060 contact and living in a normal environment that the risk of life, you might say,

00:25:08.780 that is a good thing, because it builds herd immunity the natural way to the whole virus,

00:25:14.620 not just a bit of it. And indeed, that selectivity of the vaccination against the spike, a specific spike

00:25:23.740 protein has been shown not to be very effective against the spike protein of the Delta variant.

00:25:30.780 So, as you say, what are we going to do if this thing returns in the fall? Are we going to continuously

00:25:38.540 have to jab people over and over and over again, just because of a new scarient is appearing? It's

00:25:45.260 obviously ridiculous, because it's not just ineffective and expensive, but it's also exposing people to the

00:25:53.820 enormous risks of an unsafe, untested vaccine. You just don't do that in medicine. We don't vaccinate

00:26:04.140 people with unsafe products unless there's a catastrophic emergency. We just don't do that.

00:26:14.300 Now, finally, before we move on to the professional agencies that are challenging you and you're

00:26:21.980 challenging them back, what other news on the COVID-19 front do you think we're missing that isn't being

00:26:30.060 talked about in the mainstream media because of self-suppression from the mainstream media because

00:26:34.940 of big tech censorship? What is it that we're really missing right now since I talked to you last?

00:26:42.300 Well, there's a growing realization that a lot of the complications that are resulting from the

00:26:48.300 vaccination are due to blood clotting, not necessarily in big vessels, such as you've heard of already,

00:26:58.060 the central venous thrombosis in the head, deep veins in the legs, and so on, but quite possibly on a more

00:27:05.740 diffused basis involving capillaries, which are throughout the entire body. That may be the reason

00:27:13.180 myocarditis has been happening. It's still being investigated. But if in fact, we do know that that

00:27:19.900 coagulation is happening because of blood tests, they're called D-dimers. We test for after heart attacks,

00:27:25.980 for example. We do know that diffuse coagulation is happening in the body in people who are not

00:27:33.820 symptomatic. And so what that brings to the fore is the possibility, again untested, that we may be

00:27:42.860 interfering with the reserve of organs that do not have the ability to regenerate, such that we may have

00:27:52.140 premature onset of heart failure, for example, for myocarditis. Could we be seeing premature onset of

00:27:59.500 dementia if the brain is being attacked? We don't know these things. It's a very new technology that

00:28:09.100 should have been subject to even more rigorous assessment of risk than has currently happened.

00:28:14.700 What we do know is that there is evidence of coagulation occurring in the body in people who are

00:28:24.060 not symptomatic after vaccination. That's a deep concern because it could be the very small vessels

00:28:31.180 that are being picked off as opposed to the big ones that produce immediate symptoms of massive headache

00:28:37.820 and pulmonary emboli shooting off from your legs. We think that's just the tip of the iceberg.

00:28:45.660 You know, it's very frightening. I saw my friend, Natalie Klein, she got the Moderna, I believe, vaccination,

00:28:55.580 and then she experienced a stroke. So this isn't just happening to random people. These are people

00:29:00.540 that we know who are suffering these complications after getting the jab.

00:29:07.580 Well, look at the numbers coming out of the States. The Canadian numbers are totally unreliable.

00:29:14.540 The difficulty of reporting and having it accepted is just so bureaucratic. The numbers are meaningless.

00:29:21.100 But even in the States, and in Britain, the numbers are similar. There's significant under-reporting of

00:29:29.980 vaccine reactions. But just looking at the numbers as stated, which are probably quite under-reported.

00:29:38.780 In the States, we currently have 6,000, actually 9,000, it's just been increased. 9,000 deaths in the States

00:29:47.500 within a few days of vaccination, particularly after the second dose. Now, to put that number in perspective,

00:29:56.140 over the last 30 years, with all the vaccinations that have taken place over a period of 30 years,

00:30:05.020 if you add all of those deaths up over 30 years, it's less than the deaths that are being reported

00:30:14.140 during a three-month reporting period in the States for one vaccination program.

00:30:20.860 That's the scale of difference here. It's a massive, massive increase in deaths following vaccination.

00:30:28.300 That's just the deaths, by the way. That's not all the other things that are hidden. For example,

00:30:33.980 untested fertility issues. We don't know anything about that.

00:30:40.780 You know, it's very frightening. I didn't even think, you know, when you mentioned, you know,

00:30:47.580 the headaches. Again, those will likely be one of those under-reported complications of the vaccines

00:30:55.820 because it's just a stress headache, no big deal. Exactly. A random thing, a bad headache happens,

00:31:02.540 you slough it off as just another headache, but it could have been, we don't know, not investigated,

00:31:09.020 not reported. It could have been a direct consequence of the vaccination.

00:31:15.580 Frightening. Similarly, these reports of brain fog, for example, they're just too prevalent.

00:31:24.620 It's a big mistake in medicine to slough people off as hysterical if you can't explain it.

00:31:29.660 Could the brain fog be due to this very diffuse capillary coagulation that may be occurring in

00:31:41.260 certain parts of the brain? Could it be? Well, we don't know. But we should know, shouldn't we?

00:31:47.900 These things should have been investigated well before they were injected into everyone's arm

00:31:55.420 for a condition that's not a public health emergency. This is how bizarre this whole process

00:32:02.460 is from a medical perspective. The massive overreaction to something that in the grand

00:32:08.460 scheme of things is nothing worse than a bad seasonal flu for the vast majority of the working well.

00:32:14.460 Now, I wanted to ask you what it's been like for you as a doctor, an accomplished doctor,

00:32:27.180 speaking out on these issues, because these issues are not out of your scope. And yet,

00:32:33.340 professional organizations, because you are not going along with the accepted narrative on these things,

00:32:39.020 which, as we found out just this week with mixing vaccines, it literally changes day to day,

00:32:44.700 you are facing some pretty serious consequences and some pretty ugly pushback from your own

00:32:52.300 professional organization. Well, I'm not alone. Across Canada, people are being very significantly

00:33:01.260 censored by their professional organizations. Dr. Francis Christian, a highly respected surgeon in

00:33:10.060 Saskatchewan. All he did was stand up and say, I think vaccination for children is is dangerous

00:33:19.500 and shouldn't happen. That's all he said. That's all he said. And yet he got his faculty position taken

00:33:26.540 away from him with a conversation that was almost straight out of a gulag psychiatric hospital that

00:33:34.620 went something like this. Dr. Christian, you're a very intelligent man, but maybe you need help.

00:33:44.140 You know, we can help you. You know, the next stage is, you know, go to hospital and get filled up with

00:33:50.940 drugs and change your mind. That's all he said. Trying to protect children and he lost his faculty appointment.

00:34:00.700 Dr. Hoff in British Columbia simply stood up and said, I'm seeing some neurological complications in

00:34:11.100 this small community before it got burned to the ground in Lytton, British Columbia. I'm seeing some

00:34:17.980 really unusual neurological complications. And what happened? His local hospital said, we don't need

00:34:25.820 you in the emergency room anymore. Just took away 40% of his income right there. And other examples across

00:34:36.380 Canada, Dr. Milbourne in Nova Scotia, Dr. Trozee in Ontario, and so on. It's not just in Alberta at all,

00:34:47.500 and it's not even just in Canada. It's throughout the Western world. And it goes even further than that,

00:34:58.220 where physicians are now being told in many jurisdictions, look, if you want to come back to work in this

00:35:05.420 hospital, you're going to have to be vaccinated. Do you understand that? Well, it never happened for the flu.

00:35:13.500 So, you know, why is it so important now for these institutions to put livelihoods at risk for physicians

00:35:23.020 who are often, you know, very, very capable, cream of the crop? Why should they be insisting on these

00:35:31.900 things? It's none of their business? For a physician, it's very much as a personal decision as it is for,

00:35:41.900 as it is for you or a member of the general public.

00:35:44.620 Yeah, the oppression, though, has a sinister complication. And that is, the general public rely

00:35:56.300 upon three sources of information to form their own decisions, the politicians, the media, and physicians,

00:36:07.180 largely. And the physicians are the most important group, I think, because of that doctor title,

00:36:11.900 which we're given, that comes with great responsibility to do the best we can for an individual patient.

00:36:23.260 So we're seeing, because of the censorship of physicians, we're seeing unopposed propaganda from

00:36:30.540 government that the general public is, they've got nowhere to turn. The mainstream media has been

00:36:39.580 bought off by the Prime Minister, he's bribed them into silence, you don't bite the hand that feeds you,

00:36:46.860 you're never going to hear any of this kind of stuff on CBC, or the the mainstream

00:36:53.180 newspapers. All you see in the newspapers is this rising graph, used to be rising, now it's falling, of

00:37:00.300 these so called cases, which are, you know, false positive

00:37:04.060 PCR results that are no such thing as a case. You see, there's another distortion of the English

00:37:09.740 language, intentional distortion. In medicine, a case is someone who is sick in front of you,

00:37:17.340 they got pain, they got fever, whatever, they have serious issues, that's a case.

00:37:23.580 They're calling a case, a false positive result screening test on someone who's perfectly well.

00:37:34.780 And translating that into a graph in the morning paper, that drives fear into everyone, and makes

00:37:42.380 them wonder, well, you know, Armageddon is coming, maybe I should get the vaccine.

00:37:47.980 The general public are really sadly being, as I said way back in November, and I say it again,

00:37:58.620 they're being let down the garden path. Because the evidence is totally one sided. They say they're

00:38:09.020 basing their decisions on facts. And when put to the task, as you well know, with court cases that are

00:38:16.780 going on across this country, put to the task of being asked, what is your evidence for these

00:38:23.020 interventions, they say, we need more time. Well, if you've been doing something of this gravity,

00:38:31.740 for a period of a year, and you've not assembled the evidence to support why you're doing it and

00:38:38.780 monitoring it and, and calculating the consequences. That's a dereliction of duty. And the

00:38:46.620 obvious explanation for saying we need more time after a period of a year, the obvious implication

00:38:53.020 of that is, they don't have the facts. And the very simple reason is because there are no facts.

00:39:00.300 The Orwellian situation that we're in is that they're claiming these interventions are based on

00:39:06.220 facts, when they're actually merely hearsay, they're an opinion, when the bulk of medical opinion is

00:39:15.500 actually to the contrary. There's always in medicine, in science, there's always an experiment that shows

00:39:21.820 the opposite. That's the very nature of science, the very nature of medicine. There's always a debate

00:39:27.660 as to what's the consensus, you might say, of benefit versus, versus harm. And the overwhelming

00:39:36.060 evidence is totally against masks, social distancing, travel bans, and lockdowns. And,

00:39:43.100 I would say vaccination, because it's, it's just not needed.

00:39:50.060 I'll give the last word to you, Doctor. What do you think people need to know right now about COVID-19?

00:39:58.860 I think they need to know that what they've been hearing is a pack of lies.

00:40:04.380 You know, I see a lot of similarities here with the censorship surrounding anybody who questions

00:40:18.460 coronavirus science and the censorship of anybody who questions human contributions to climate change.

00:40:25.020 big tech scientists and politicians have all colluded to make sure that there is only one

00:40:33.020 acceptable form of discussion. And even when other evidence presents itself, and it always does,

00:40:40.860 evidence to the contrary, big tech can take care of all of that to make sure that nobody ever even

00:40:46.540 gets to see the new information. These are dark and dangerous times when words don't mean what they

00:40:54.620 used to mean anymore. When calling a medicine safe doesn't actually mean safe. It doesn't mean

00:41:02.140 proven, tested, and benign, but rather it means just something they want you to take

00:41:08.220 without all the facts, no questions asked. What becomes of the people damaged by that advice to

00:41:16.140 mix their vaccines? What becomes of all the people who were censored because they were skeptical,

00:41:23.660 because they had questions about mixing vaccines? What is accepted science one day is dangerous the

00:41:31.580 very next morning and we're all just supposed to forget how we were called anti-science

00:41:37.420 deniers for simply having questions about things that seem to be changing all the time.

00:41:43.020 And I want to be clear the way I always am. If you want to take a vaccine, take the vaccine.

00:41:49.500 If you don't want to take a vaccine, don't take a vaccine. It is absolutely none of my business. In fact,

00:41:55.260 it's nobody's business. But more importantly, I just want you to have all the facts so that you can make up

00:42:01.820 your mind because I think that's the responsible thing to do. I don't like when information is hidden

00:42:09.820 or censored or obscured from the public. Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thank you

00:42:16.780 so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week. And

00:42:22.300 remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Dr. Hodkinson on Rapidly Changing Vaccine Advice

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