SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Firearm Ban Targets Canadian-Made Guns used by Law-abiding Canadians
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Tracy Wilson from the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights (CCFR) joins me to talk about the Liberal government's latest gun grab and how it's just more political posturing and scapegoating of Canadian gun owners.
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trouble in the polls well break out a gun grab that's the liberal way
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I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gun Show
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in 2022-23 our government passed legislation to freeze the market for handguns in Canada
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banning the sale transfer and importation of handguns into the country just recently in December 2024 we
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went further banning some of the additional assault style weapons that remained in the Canadian
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market today our government is finishing the job adding a further 179 unique makes and models of
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assault style weapons to the list of prohibited firearms here in Canada this prohibition takes
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effect immediately it is our hope our government's intention that this be the last discrete listing of
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assault style firearms for prohibition if we finish the job well we have all the tools necessary to
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ensure that new models of assault style weapons will be captured and denied legal entry into the
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Canadian market let's be clear these are weapons of war firearms designed specifically to kill as many
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people as possible in the least amount of time possible as with previous prohibitions the weapons
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we are banning today are semi-automatic firearms with sustained rapid fire capability experts have told
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us that they exceed safe civilian use the Liberals are going to get smoked in the next election whenever
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that is whenever Canadians are given the ability to send a strong message to the Liberals about what
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they've done to this country over the last 10 years but every time the Liberals are having trouble in the polls
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they do what's easiest and I think probably a little bit effective in some of the larger municipalities in
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this country they are scapegoating Canadian gun owners again with a last minute gun grab and I thought who
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better to break this down for us than our friend Tracy Wilson from the CCFR the Canadian Coalition for
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Firearms Rights I haven't spoken to my friend Tracy on air in a long time and that is to my great
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regret and shame because I know you guys enjoy her just as much as I do here's my interview with Tracy
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so joining me now is my friend and good friend of all freedom fighters Tracy Wilson from the Canadian
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Coalition for Firearms Rights Tracy thanks for coming on the show I wanted to have you on because
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as is always the case when the Liberals see their polling results and they suck they launch an attack
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on their easy scapegoats and that's firearms owners in this country why because they're the most law
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abiding people in this country so it's easier to deal with them than it is to deal with crime tell us
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about the latest gun grab because it it really was the last uh death rattle of a dying government
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yeah you're right as usual break glass ban guns you know target the people who are most unlikely to
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vote for them and that of course is legal licensed gun owners so last week the federal liberal government
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banned um banned another 179 models of firearms um models and variants now to be honest about 150 of
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those on the list are the M1 so you know I I know they like to really puff up the numbers but
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yeah this was a really strange list it creates a lot of confusion I was in the technical briefing with
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the minister staff on Monday and of course there's an amnesty that protects gun owners now we've had three
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different gun bans we had the big one in May of 2020 we had one uh 324 firearms I think added to
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that one back in December of 2024 and then this one on March 7th so now there's two different amnesties
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those first two gun bans are protected by an amnesty until the end of October of this year 2025 but these
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new firearms that were just banned on March 7th are protected by an amnesty until March 1st 2026 so
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you know just to keep things totally simple for gun owners now you've got to check which list
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your banned guns are on to know how long the amnesty protects you and at the end of the day I think you
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and I both know they're never actually going to get this stuff done so yeah just more political
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posturing at the expense of public safety the day after their announcement we had a mass shooting in
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Scarborough where 12 people were injured thankfully nobody died but yeah just another result of liberal
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public safety policy yeah and that's the thing they're not ever addressed like these are expensive
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sweeping gun bans if they ever get around to taking them from Canadian firearms owners and you can tell
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by the timeline they don't ever think they're gonna have to because I think they know they're not getting
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re-elected it's just how bad the blowout is going to be for the liberals um but they never actually do
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anything to deal with the crime to deal with the border to deal with the gangs and the fentanyl and
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the drug trafficking and the sex trafficking they never actually deal with that stuff they just take
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the path of least resistance and think that this is going to appease uh the urban voters that they want
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to remain within the liberal fold in places like Toronto Montreal and Vancouver well I'd even go a step
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further and say not only do they not do anything to solve the real crisis in public safety in fact they use it
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and I know if I would have said that a couple of years ago people would have said I was a conspiracy theorist but
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it's bearing out for everyone to see you know they you look back to the um Nova Scotia shooting right a crime
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committed by a madman with illegal smuggled guns and that was what they used to catapult into these gun bans it's got nothing to do with
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licensed gun owners hunters sport shooters ranchers it's got nothing to do with us but they use that
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violence so when people say to me why do you think they're not actually tackling the tough issues um to
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stop the the smuggled guns coming into the country and fueling gangs and unfortunately I have to say I
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think they're using it they use it to support their their crazy policies and you know law enforcement agrees with
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me they agree that the liberals have not done enough and in fact they've damaged public safety
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with bills like c5 and c75 that lowered the sentences for some violent repeat offenders committing
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some really serious crimes with guns so yeah it's uh it's crazy town here in Ottawa now Ottawa is crazy
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but it is uh more sane out here in the west particularly in Alberta and Saskatchewan who had
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their own responses to Justin Trudeau's escalating gun bans it started at the very beginning when they
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said actually we're going to appoint our own chief firearms officers people who actually know something
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about the firearms owning culture out here and then they both provinces have said we're not going to
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direct our RCMP resources in the middle of a public safety crime crisis to go door to door to
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round up guns on behalf of Justin Trudeau and I mean really that's what they would have to do is just get the
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list of PAL and RPAL holders and then go door to door because many of these firearms have never been registered because
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they're moving from non non-restricted over to prohibited and so the only way to deal with that
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is literally knocking doors and I think and our premier thinks and the premier of Saskatchewan also think
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that the cops just have far better things to do well it's really interesting because Alberta and
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Saskatchewan they have a whole different level of understanding of freedom and you know god bless the west but
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they've put in some measures that actually make it very difficult for confiscators to to come there
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and do that work in fact Saskatchewan has a roadblock built into their legislation that and I believe
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Alberta has it as well where you need to get a confiscator license from the province before you
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start going and collecting guns and of course I think we all know how many of those will be issued
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zero and you're right about them not knowing who's got what I mean aside from our AR-15s which were
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previously registered and restricted everything else is non-restricted for the most part so they have
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no idea who's got what and I think I had some stuff leaked to me that what they're going to do is the
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Canadian firearms program is going to send an email to or a letter to licensed gun owners all 2.4 million
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of us and ask us to voluntarily submit lists of what we own that is now banned that it's going to be
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reliant on self-reporting and the the idea here will be if you don't give us that list you get no
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compensation for those guns and you know we'll send armed cops to your door anyways to come and
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take your stuff so yeah it's I can't believe this is where we're at I know Rod made a video a few years
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back talking about what a gun call looks like and when you are sending police to a home with guns it's
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an ERT response they don't knock on the door and right hey I'm your friendly sergeant just coming to see
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if you've got any guns that were banned it's not going to be like that and we were ridiculed for
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that video and here we are a couple of years later and it looks like that's exactly what they're going
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to do so yeah I I don't know it's scary times for gun owners in this country for sure yeah I don't think
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the liberals have actually thought any of this through um because they keep talking about weapons of war
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weapons of war but they didn't actually ban the one weapon of war that they've been musing about
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for a long time and that's the world war ii soviet era uh sks right and I think they they said oh we're
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not banning it because indigenous people use it um to for sustenance hunting or whatever their dumb
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excuse was because a lot of people use it for sustenance hunting yeah um I think they just have
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no clue how many of these things there are and because they're you know they're a gun show gun
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they're a lot of people's first firearms purchase because they're cheap to buy they're cheap to shoot
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and they are reliable that's why they've been around for the better part of 100 years so um you know
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it they had this nonsensical excuse to cover up the fact that like we don't know what to do
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we have no idea what to do yeah well I'm telling you we used to buy sks's by the crate we'd get a
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for sure they were the type of gun that was so cheap to use and so cheap to shoot that you'd buy
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a crate and you'd hand them out at christmas as gifts like it was just you know it's like buying a
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case of slippers um but my prediction is the reason why they mentioned the sks in the press conference
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yet failed to ban it much to the chagrin of the anti-gun lobbies is because we're we're right
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pre-election time here right and that is going to cause a massive uproar among canadian indigenous
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peoples so I think what they'll do is they'll wait until after the election they think they're
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going to win we'll see what happens I guess um but if they do win they will absolutely come for it next
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they just don't want to do that pre-election and you know uh stir up problems with their path to
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reconciliation right I mean and also it just balloons the cost of the gun grab I think what
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do they have it now uh they the government has it pegged at like two billion dollars um yeah you can
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double that easily um if you throw the sks in there and they've already spent like some nearly 70
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million dollars and they haven't taken a single firearm yeah it's interesting actually if you watch that
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press conference uh rachel bendayan liberal mp and associate minister of public safety she you know
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touted it as a great success you know stage one where they're taking firearms from retailers like
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brand new ones that have never been sold that are sitting in their inventory for the last five years
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um making those up and destroying them and she says oh it's more successful than we ever imagined
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and I think they've destroyed 7 300 firearms and I couldn't help but literally laugh out loud watching
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it because we're talking over half a million guns across the country and she's celebrating 7 300 that
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come from willing participants who are little ma and pa shops across the country who've been stuck with
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this inventory that's already paid for for five years paying insurance and storage you know I hate the fact
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that anyone participates in this but I do look at it completely different for retailers and here you
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know it's like a drop in the bucket like a right a needle in a haystack and she's celebrating like it's
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some huge success wait until you've got uh to deal with individuals where you're talking about these
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firearms I've owned for decades if not generations yeah safely and without issue and now you expect me to
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come turn them in yeah it's gonna be an interesting time in Canada for sure yeah I mean there are people like me who
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I have my father and my grandfather's firearms and I will not be able to pass them along to my children they are
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family heirlooms they're what uh yeah built the farm that I live on like it's part of my family heritage these
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firearms and I will have to turn them over to the state and as meaningless just chunks of wood and steel
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well and what's really crazy is if you know I'll remind everyone that these retailers who have
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submitted these 7 300 firearms nobody's gotten paid yet right so that leaves some questions about the
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success of the program because if you're if you haven't paid the retailers yet who have you know
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lists submitted through uh global affairs like it's very easy to track who's got what on the retailer
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side you know what how does that bear out for individual gun owners and right like I I don't
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know I I here we are you know five years into this thing these guns are far too dangerous for us to own
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even though we've owned them for decades without issue and but they're so dangerous that you're forced
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to keep them for six and a half years you know right yeah well and you know you're right to point
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out just the burden this has on retailers most of these are mom and pop shops it's you know Cabela's
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can probably eat the stranded asset a little better than the little gun shop in Bashaw Alberta and so when
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they do send the firearms back to the government I I understand I don't like it I don't like that they're
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forced to do this but they're losing their shirts here and then for the government to treat them
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with such disrespect to not even remit proper compensation to them it's disgusting you know
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you've criminalized these people and then you don't even pay them for trying to do the right
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thing to keep their business afloat well and then there's some compensation that's supposed to flow
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not just for the firearms but for parts because of course there are parts that are specific to the
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guns that you've banned so it's not just guns in their inventory it's most of their store
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so originally they were told they would be compensated for unsellable parts as well now
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they've been limited to 200 parts I was speaking to a retailer yesterday he's got 20,000 parts
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and he can only get compensated for 200 oh my goodness so at a time like you think about what
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these businesses have gone through we look back back to 2020 when we went through COVID lockdowns where
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they were forced to close their doors um you know barely made it through that gun ban after gun ban
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the handgun freeze and now this and then they're being limited in what they can be compensated for
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it's there is no doubt in my mind it is a direct attack on gun shops and businesses um simply because
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it doesn't you know the liberals don't support our way of life and they would be you know all this talk
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of team canada lately they would be more than happy to see these generational small family businesses
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go under they'd love it right yeah so it's it's uh they're cutting off the supply right like that's
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what they're doing so they want to they're attacking ownership on one side and then the supply on the
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other side now I want I just want to go in a little side quest here um because uh rachel bendayan
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and we'll get to her in a second she again said or not banning the sks because indigenous hunters use
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them and then the fur association of canada which is you know as indigenous an industry as you can get
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in this country they said uh yeah no thanks you're still banning the guns we use yeah absolutely I mean
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it's the sks isn't the only firearm they use right probably the most popular however there's a variety
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of other firearms you know they're banning stuff called you know uh ranch rifles and yeah to to
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suggest that these are any sort of a salty style firearm or whatever term they're using whatever
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made up lingo they're using it's absolutely ridiculous these firearms we have to remember
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every single gun that's been banned going all the way back to 2020 all the way forward to now where
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they are absolutely banning hunting guns was previously approved by the technicians in the
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RCMP firearms lab and deemed appropriate for civilian use for sporting and hunting and collecting so the
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only people who are saying it isn't are the liberals are are politicians in suits with zero
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um experience in this taking their or marching orders from anti-gun lobbyists yeah I mean they did
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they banned the mini 14 ranch rifle that they also banned a turkish made 410 which like the that's
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dangerous mostly to robins and perhaps a smaller magpie um yeah but but it looked cool and so that's
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those that's really the requirement for prohibition at this point yeah I like a lot of the stuff they
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banned is purely just on looks you're banning 22 rifles and you know anybody with the tiniest amount
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of knowledge about firearms understands it a little 22 I mean heck our kids go and plink plink in cans
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in the back 40 with them like yeah it suggests this is a weapon of war as a military family over here
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I'm telling you right now if you ever sent my daughter into combat with a five round semi-automatic
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rifle she'd never come home so right yeah yeah uh now I want to just talk to you real quick about
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rachel bendayan because she was appointed to part to her role um in december and immediately I was
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like there's a gun ban coming because she has been one of the most vicious uh anti-gun liberals in
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parliament in a very long time completely up front about her extremism on this issue which I think
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her extremism comes from her ignorance on this issue um but I knew like within months there would
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there would be a gun ban I was just waiting for the polls to get bad enough for the liberals
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yeah this is a Montreal area MP so I I believe she's got some of those anti-gun lobby groups right in
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her own riding and I had some information uh also leaked to me that there was um I guess uh a performance
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put on for her where they took a few of these firearms from retailers and they put them into
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the machine that destroys these firearms like a you know a garburator for guns more or less
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and she loved it apparently she was squealing with delight and she wanted to keep parts of it
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to put on her wall like a trophy for what she's done to uh Canadians who dare
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to be so bold as to go out and get a firearms license so yeah she's a special kind of special
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kind of politician for sure yeah that would be like Marco Mendicino keeping a photograph of the horses
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stomping on the convoy protesters on as well like that is a little bit crazy I think and a little bit
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radical to keep a trophy of how poorly you plan to treat the most law-abiding segment of Canadian
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society but yeah as soon as I saw her I was like ah hunker down there's a gun grab coming um let's uh
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move ahead because uh despite the liberals treatment of the most law-abiding sector of Canadian society
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we uh refuse to be uh silent or cowed by the liberals and the largest sporting show in the country
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is coming up in Toronto which always bemuses me because I'm like really Calgary should be the
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biggest uh but no it's in Toronto tell us so we've got the Toronto Sportsman Show coming up March 13th
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through the 16th in Toronto well in Mississauga kind of a suburb of Toronto um at the International
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Centre and you're right this is a massive event I there's always a few protesters outside I love honking
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at them as I drive by in full camo um they hate me of course uh but yeah the CCFR will be there in
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fact this show is so big it's like five halls long if you've ever gone to some of these big um uh venues
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you know it's a massive hall they've got five so there'll be all kinds of other outdoor adventure
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stuff and boats and ATVs and tents and all that but they're one of these halls is called the hunting
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hall and that's where the gun groups will be and all the firearm uh retailers and yeah it's massive
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it's sold out as far as exhibitors go and the CCFR is proud to once again sponsor that hunting hall
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so I want to thank all the other exhibitors who are participating so we'll be there we've got our booth
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going all weekend Rod's flying in from BC we'll be selling swag we're going to be doing a draw for a
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crazy beautiful 6.5 Creedmoor rifle and then I got my calendar girls coming on Saturday to put some
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smiles on faces so that's always fun because that supports our women's program and uh through that
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we fund range days for women who otherwise wouldn't have the opportunity to try guns and women vote so
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there's a method to my madness and it all it's all going to bear out this weekend so come on down
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well I think it's great for you to sort of break through that stereotype that women don't own
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firearms that we're scared of firearms that we support these gun grabs uh because the liberals
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often stand on uh violence against women to support basically stripping women of their property rights by
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taking away our firearms and scapegoating us for the things that they've done in Canada's big city so
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I like the fact that you bring out the calendar girls and encourage these range days for women
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because I think it is very empowering and if you are a conservative woman or just a politically agnostic
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woman in the firearms owning community bring a liberal friend bring your urban liberal friend
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to a CCFR range day for women because it changes them damn near instantly it does and I'm telling you
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well you know full well I'm on Twitter all the time and I'm fighting with people and you know you
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can spend all day doing that but the most effective way to influence somebody's opinions about guns and
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gun ownership is to take them out to the range they see the the you know protocols for safety they see
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how careful we are but then they get to shoot the guns and they love it I have never in all the years
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I've been doing this ever had somebody especially a woman walk away and say I'm never going to do that
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again they absolutely love it so that's that's the way we break through these people and get lasting
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change is we have to change people's perceptions about gun owners and we're I'm going to keep doing
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it one lady at a time you do you think that anybody's ever taken Rachel Ben Dye into the gun range
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she'd never go invite her no she'd never go she looks down her nose at people like you and I so she
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would never lower herself to come out and you know talk to average hard-working Canadians and see what
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we're all about she'd never do it that's right um yeah now Tracy you fight for average hard-working
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Canadians every single day um I think you are uh involved in a human rights organization I would
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describe it as um not just a firearms rights organization how do people get involved in the
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good work that the CCFR does because it's not just about advocacy it's not just about events you also
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take the fight to the courts yeah we're actually waiting right now for a decision out of the federal
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appeals court I kind of thought we'd have it by now but I don't know maybe taking extra time is is a good
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thing because they're it's a very difficult decision to write so anyways we're waiting for that decision
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out of the federal court but you can find the CCFR and support us at ccfr.ca we're on every social media
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platform we've got a huge youtube channel we've got a national tv show on wild tv and of course we've
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also got the brand new CCFR app and it's available for iphone and for the um androids so just go on
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your where you find your apps and punch in CCFR app it's free to download and there's all kinds
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of good deals and breaking news on there for you right and also one of the best merch stores in the
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entire country I've got new shirts I just wanted to tell you so I sent the the store a note this
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morning and said send Sheila one of each of the new shirts I can't wait but I have to fight my
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daughters for them when they come in yeah that's great Tracy thanks so much for coming on the show
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uh I I know I leave too long in between your visits on the show um and people complain at me
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and rightfully so good but I yeah I love hanging out with you just two girls talking about guns
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right um yeah but uh I'm just so grateful for the work that the CCFR does on behalf of families just
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like mine uh who just want to hang on to their hunting heritage and their family heritage because
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the liberals are seeking to destroy that too so appreciate you so much we're gonna keep at it
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the last portion of the show is yours I turn it over to you that's why I give you my email address
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right now let me know what you think about my interview with my friend Tracy Wilson
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from the CCFR it's Sheila at rebelnews.com put gun show letters in the subject line so I know
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why you're emailing me because as I'm sure you've guessed I get dozens if not hundreds depending
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of emails every single day and I'm not complaining I love to hear from you but it's a lot of emails
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but if you maybe have a friend that you've shared the free version of the show with or a free clip of
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really cheap it's eight bucks a month that's a coffee a week um as you know because if I'm talking
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to you right now you are a subscriber but maybe just tell your friends we'd love to see those
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subscriber numbers grow so today's letter comes to me by way of Altena and she wrote to me this week so
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uh it could be in relation to my interview with my friend Dre Humphrey um from last week
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but it really has no tie to the show but I'll read it anyway because I I have some things to say
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about it it's from as I said Altena and she said good morning Brian Lilly uncovered the photo
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showing Mark Carnage with Ghislaine Maxwell now Mark uh sorry Brian Lilly didn't uncover that
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that photo was in the Daily Mail which is I think the world's widest read publication
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so um but the Canadian mainstream media by and large is ignoring it now Angelica Toy she is a
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journalist who works for us in Calgary and she is asking Mark Carney about his relationship if any
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with convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell take a look Mark Carney why did you lie about moving the
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head office of Brookfield are you friends with Ghislaine Maxwell or is she just an acquaintance
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so while it is all fair and good for Brian Lilly to point out that there have been photos published
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in other publications of Carney laid out on the grass with Epstein's pimp I would call her
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Ghislaine Maxwell uh he's not asking the questions and Brian Lilly has access to Mark Carney he can go
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to Mark Carney events and ask these questions he's not it is rebel news journalists who are going to
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these events being kept out of the events precisely because they are going to ask those questions
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and to their credit they still do their best to ask those questions of Mark Carney and Mark Carney
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has never addressed them and it's also interesting to note that the tie between Mark Carney and Ghislaine
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Maxwell is Mark Carney's wife who went to school with Ghislaine Maxwell and guess who you didn't see
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on the campaign trail Mark Carney on the campaign trail Mark Carney's wife why because someone might ask her
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what is your relationship with convicted convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell so you would
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never see her on the campaign trail ever uh I don't think she's in any sort of a night of
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Poliev either right Anna Poliev is uh well-spoken sharp cookie photogenic warm people person
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I'm not sure Mark Carney's wife is any of those things plus she's got that
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dark cloud of Ghislaine Maxwell hanging over her either
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Altena continues to write currently in the states Pam Bondi is working at releasing the Epstein files
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I hope it happens soon perhaps Carney has enough of a connection that the liberals cannot brush
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the facts under the rug enjoy your show especially your investigative journalism stay warm Altena
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thank you very much yeah I'm interested to see uh where if at all Mark Carney is in the Epstein files
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I know I think there's a couple different phone numbers for Mark Carney that were in the initial
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dump of Epstein files documents I wouldn't want my phone number to turn up in Epstein's black book
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would you uh it's weird again weird the mainstream media they aren't asking these questions it's only
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the independent journalists who are and that is precisely why Mark Carney is keeping the independent
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journalists out of all of this and we'll continue to ask the questions the mainstream media won't and
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the greatest thing that the mainstream media has ever done for independent journalism is I guess
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not do their jobs it gives us job security we exist to fill a space the mainstream media just refuses to
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so thank you I guess uh mainstream media thank you Toronto Star for my job security appreciate it well
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everybody that's the show for today thank you so much for tuning in uh I'll see everybody back here in
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the same time in the same space next week and as always don't let the government tell you that you've