Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Firearms owners had a tough year in 2023 – Is there any hope for 2024？

00:00:00.000 What's next for Canadian firearms owners in 2024?

00:00:04.220 We asked that question today.

00:00:05.540 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:25.000 Well, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, everybody.

00:00:28.000 Welcome to the first show of 2024.

00:00:30.940 Now, as a law-abiding Canadian gun owner, I am happy to leave 2023 in the dust.

00:00:36.780 It was a terrible year for us.

00:00:38.040 We were the target of scapegoating legislation at the hands of the federal liberals who refuse

00:00:44.740 to address real crime issues.

00:00:46.900 So they go towards the path of least resistance, the most law-abiding segment of the Canadian

00:00:52.040 population, firearms owners.

00:00:54.080 And I'm worried about what 2024 will bring for us.

00:01:02.180 So I thought I'd bring on an expert.

00:01:05.200 Today's guest is Rick Igersich of Canada's National Firearms Association.

00:01:09.480 We're talking about the terrible year that was and what we can expect in 2024.

00:01:15.360 Take a listen.

00:01:16.100 So joining me now is good friend of the rebel, good friend of the show, Rick Igersich of Canada's

00:01:28.300 National Firearms Association.

00:01:29.760 Rick, I wanted to have you on the show to talk about, you know, what it was like in 2023 for

00:01:36.180 Canadian firearms owners, what we can expect in 2024 from the liberals, but also from the

00:01:42.700 National Firearms Association.

00:01:45.220 And I also wanted to talk to you about something that is just, it's so perfectly liberal and

00:01:52.080 it's so perfectly government.

00:01:53.880 And it's been a story that I've been on since 2018.

00:01:57.820 And that is how the federal government is paying foreign hunters to shoot nuisance deer

00:02:06.440 from a helicopter, which sounds cool.

00:02:09.240 Like I would love to do that too, but I don't want to charge the taxpayer for it.

00:02:12.720 In BC, and right now the first installment of this program is costing the taxpayer $10,000 a deer.

00:02:21.760 This is something local hunters would have loved to have taken care of.

00:02:26.100 Yeah.

00:02:26.980 Thanks for having me on your show again, Sheila.

00:02:28.980 I appreciate it.

00:02:29.540 Just love being on your show.

00:02:31.580 Yeah.

00:02:32.340 2023 was a turbulent year for law-abiding Canadians.

00:02:36.340 There's no doubt about that.

00:02:38.140 A lot of stuff happened.

00:02:39.580 The NFA was busy.

00:02:40.860 Of course, everybody knows that Bill C-21 got fast-tracked and became law.

00:02:47.020 We were on it right from the start.

00:02:48.780 But, you know, it was talking to deaf ears in the Senate mostly, you know, it was an eye-opener for me

00:03:00.120 because a lot of senators that actually thought they would, that we thought they would, you know,

00:03:05.800 run our way, some of the independent senators, they waffled at the end and voted with the liberals.

00:03:10.100 The word came down on the last day from Justin Trudeau, I have no doubt.

00:03:13.900 And it was overwhelmingly passed in the Senate, and as you know, it reached royal assent and became law.

00:03:21.320 In our opinion, it was nothing more than another wedge issue that Justin Trudeau can definitely use in the looming election.

00:03:30.340 We don't know when this election is going to happen.

00:03:31.880 The sooner, the better.

00:03:33.100 I don't know how long you can hold out.

00:03:35.280 We'll see.

00:03:36.360 And, you know, the NFA, we were on the ground the whole time.

00:03:40.480 We did a lot of stuff in 2024 besides that.

00:03:43.260 The other part of the NFA, we spent a lot of time going across Canada and meeting people and putting, you know,

00:03:50.320 putting some events together so we can meet people.

00:03:52.520 We could, you know, gain some new members and let people know what we're all about

00:03:56.220 because part of the problem in Canada is there's a lot of gun owners in Canada, you know, 2.2 to 2.4 to 3 million.

00:04:04.180 Nobody knows the actual number of actual gun owners besides licensed gun owners.

00:04:07.900 And nobody, nobody, a lot of people don't know what, that there is a gun lobby in Canada and what we do in Ottawa

00:04:14.960 and how we fight for their rights.

00:04:16.320 So the NFA spends a lot of time traveling.

00:04:19.600 Well, we did in 2023.

00:04:21.020 We spent a lot of time traveling across the country, letting people, you know, letting them meet us,

00:04:25.080 letting them, letting them, you know, letting them know that we're just regular people like them.

00:04:29.560 We're not some entity that sits on the top of this pedestal.

00:04:33.340 We're just gun owners like everybody else and, you know, hoping that they come aboard and help us in the good fight in Ottawa.

00:04:40.060 You know, that's the thing about Canadian gun owners is, you know, by the numbers, the shooting sports are our national sport.

00:04:48.000 More people participate in shooting sports than organized hockey.

00:04:51.780 But we don't talk about it because we have a history of confiscation in this country.

00:04:59.000 So we're a quiet majority, I would suggest, when it comes to people participating in organized sports.

00:05:08.960 And because of that, a lot of people don't realize that they have organizations like the National Firearms Association

00:05:16.700 lobbying on their behalf in Ottawa.

00:05:19.140 So it's good to get out and and meet people in person.

00:05:22.880 As you say, show people that you aren't the sinister gun lobby, as the liberals and the media love to paint you.

00:05:30.800 I mean, I'm probably repeating myself by distinguishing between those two groups.

00:05:34.560 But they like to paint the gun lobby as just a bunch of rootin' tootin', gun-totin' weirdos.

00:05:40.420 When you're just friends, neighbors, colleagues, people you meet at the grocery store, people you meet at work,

00:05:47.680 just severely normal people, as Ralph Klein would say.

00:05:51.980 Yeah.

00:05:52.500 You know, it's the thing is, too, you know, when we were at the Senate and senators were saying that 68 percent of Canadian firearms owners are in favor of this bill,

00:06:02.980 which is the biggest piece of misinformation I've ever heard.

00:06:08.060 I travel across Canada.

00:06:10.180 I travel from coast to coast.

00:06:11.740 I haven't talked to one person that was in favor of this bill.

00:06:17.080 So they did a—the way they got this data, they did a survey, and they phoned a real small controlled group of people,

00:06:25.360 and they said, are you in favor of getting rid of basically assault machine guns on the street?

00:06:31.200 And that was the question.

00:06:33.120 Yeah.

00:06:33.440 So, you know, it was so skewed to start with that there's no—of course they got the results they didn't.

00:06:40.420 You know, we challenged—we challenged, actually, Senator Kuchar in the Senate about that.

00:06:46.100 And, you know, we provided him with three peer-reviewed reports that said the exact opposite.

00:06:51.860 But, you know what, they weren't interested, you know.

00:06:54.520 And, like I say, you know, a lot of people are saying that the firearms lobby had failures in 2023.

00:07:03.400 We didn't have any failures.

00:07:04.920 We had a—we had a minor setback, and I am going to say that 2024 is going to be the NFA's finest hour.

00:07:13.180 Just sit back and watch.

00:07:14.800 2024 is going to be the NFA's finest hour.

00:07:17.140 We're in the fight hard now.

00:07:18.820 We've got a set direction.

00:07:20.080 And we know which way we're going, and we know what to do.

00:07:23.080 You know, Pierre Polyev has made some bold promises, which I hope he sticks to.

00:07:28.440 And, like I say, we're going to work hard.

00:07:31.620 We're going to work hard for a government change.

00:07:33.580 And when we do get a government change, we're going to be talking to these people right off the bat and make some major—

00:07:39.080 And the whole—the Firearms Act and the Criminal Code in Canada has to be redone.

00:07:45.800 There's just—it doesn't make any sense.

00:07:47.980 It was originally drawn by a bunch of lawyers and bureaucrats, people that never held a firearm in their hands.

00:07:54.540 And, you know, they're making the laws for us.

00:07:56.480 So, that's one of our goals in 2024, to definitely make some changes to the—you know, we need a government change.

00:08:04.800 There's no doubt about that.

00:08:05.640 I don't know how long Justin Trudeau can hold out yet.

00:08:07.860 It's a coin toss.

00:08:09.560 You know, we've been hearing all kinds of stories, but we'll see what happens.

00:08:14.460 But, like I say, when—there's going to be a change in power, and it's going to be a positive change in power for us.

00:08:20.140 And then their work is really going to start.

00:08:23.760 Well, and what are you supposed to do?

00:08:27.660 You know, you're up against an NDP liberal coalition that is more radical than ever.

00:08:34.760 They realize that they are running out of time.

00:08:38.260 The Canadian public has absolutely turned on them.

00:08:40.980 The Conservatives are consistently polling, like, 10 to 13 points higher than the Liberals at every step of the way.

00:08:47.260 It wasn't an anomaly.

00:08:48.420 It's consistent polling.

00:08:49.680 You're up against a stacked Senate.

00:08:52.720 All you can do is fight and fight and fight and fight until—and never give up until government is changed.

00:09:01.760 And I think that's what you guys have done.

00:09:04.260 Now, I wanted to touch on this last-minute change to C-21, which has really been the legislation of last-minute shoehorned changes, hasn't it?

00:09:14.220 But they've decided that the best way to keep Canadians safe is to make something double illegal.

00:09:20.840 Why don't you tell us about this?

00:09:23.260 Well, there's a lot of double illegal stuff in C-21.

00:09:27.580 Everybody knows that C-21 is a freezing movement of handguns and stuff.

00:09:31.860 And, you know, just before I get into it too deep, they said that they're going to make some adjustments and compromise for Olympic shooters and whatnot.

00:09:41.720 But that didn't happen, and that's not going to happen.

00:09:44.020 But there was a lot of amendments added to C-21.

00:09:48.300 And the biggest one is the magazine capacity.

00:09:52.020 What they're saying is that any firearm—and this is that, you know, this is that same old thing, you know, we'll make stuff up after the bill is passed.

00:10:07.080 You know, this Firearms Advisory Committee, which, in my opinion, is just a waste of money and time.

00:10:11.060 But anyway, they basically—it's open-ended to—they can make any change to the bill they want after the fact, which is absolutely ridiculous.

00:10:21.860 But at the end of the day, you know, there's a bunch of things.

00:10:24.380 There's a bunch of amendments on C-21.

00:10:25.920 And the one that kind of is sitting to the forefront is this magazine capacity thing.

00:10:31.580 Now, there is probably—nobody has any idea how many magazines are out there that are legal, five-shot magazines that have been blocked from the factory.

00:10:44.800 And the way they're talking—and you know what?

00:10:49.500 They don't even know where they're going with this amendment.

00:10:52.280 They don't even know what direction they're going in.

00:10:53.700 But the way they're talking is any magazine that's readily convertible back to its original capacity is going to be deemed prohibited.

00:11:02.020 Now, we get into the little bit of a—

00:11:04.500 But it's already—it's already illegal to alter them.

00:11:06.960 It is.

00:11:07.580 Yeah, it is.

00:11:08.620 Yeah.

00:11:09.260 It's a law on top of a law.

00:11:11.520 But, you know, where this gets a little iffy is they want to get rid of these things because now they're saying—they basically changed the law and saying they're illegal because they can be changed back.

00:11:24.200 But then we get into, you know, and this is—you're in my pet peeve is the SKSs. 1.00

00:11:29.980 You know, the SKSs is a 10-shot capacity firearm that has an actual pin welded in the bottom of the attached box magazine that prevents it from holding more than five rounds.

00:11:43.640 Now, is that a readily convertible back to original capacity magazine?

00:11:48.520 You know, that's the million-dollar question.

00:11:52.000 And, you know, but then again, you made a very valid point there, Sheila, that it's already against the law to alter magazines.

00:11:59.760 So, why would you make something illegal that has already been changed and made legal?

00:12:06.880 But then again, we look back to the Ruger 10-22, the 25-round magazines, which there was thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of them in Canada.

00:12:15.820 And they made them illegal overnight because they would fit into some Ruger Challenger pistol, which there's probably maybe, I don't know, a few dozen in Canada.

00:12:25.100 But they made that magazine illegal because they considered a high-capacity magazine because it'll work in a pistol.

00:12:33.140 So, you know, the laws don't make any sense.

00:12:36.900 The amendments don't make any sense.

00:12:38.300 And it wasn't well thought out.

00:12:39.560 It was rushed.

00:12:40.420 It was definitely rushed at the end.

00:12:41.920 And the reason it was rushed because the Liberals wanted to get it through before the end of the year.

00:12:47.100 And, you know, I'm going back on this and I'm repeating myself, but they're going to use it as an election issue, just like they used firearms in the last election.

00:12:55.440 You know, and unfortunately, Aaron O'Toole did a 180 on us and, you know, kind of leaned in their direction, which didn't help anybody at the end of the day.

00:13:06.520 But, you know, we're looking at the same thing happening again.

00:13:09.300 And I just hope that, I just hope that Paulyev sticks to his guns and keeps going in the direction he's going.

00:13:15.520 And it's such a winning issue for conservatives.

00:13:19.460 I think it's one of their single largest fundraising issues for the party.

00:13:24.940 And look how popular Stephen Harper was for no other reason than euthanizing the gun registry.

00:13:35.000 I'll never forget.

00:13:36.240 I forget.

00:13:37.140 I think it was Blaine Calkins.

00:13:40.220 I could be wrong.

00:13:41.420 He got in a bunch of trouble when he was voting for the extermination of the gun registry.

00:13:45.980 And he did, like, some finger guns during voting.

00:13:50.840 And the Liberals lost their marbles.

00:13:52.880 That shows you how radical the Liberals are on this, that you can't even do a little finger gun celebration when voting on an issue of gun rights.

00:14:00.380 But Stephen Harper was popular with a whole segment of the Canadian population for no other reason than just getting rid of that.

00:14:08.040 And even if you don't care about guns, even if you don't care about property rights, are you tired of the government wasting your money on the wrong thing?

00:14:17.720 There are a whole host of other things that they could do to deal with rising crime in Canada's progressive cities that have nothing to do with hassling law-abiding gun owners.

00:14:26.960 Yeah, you know, and, you know, it just, it's guns, it's personal property, it's freedom.

00:14:35.100 But, you know, at the end of the day, if you get a bunch of people to put the, if you get, put a group of people together to do a peaceful protest, are they going to seize your bank accounts?

00:14:44.740 Are they going to, are they going to, you know, put the, put the, I call it the War Measures Act because I believe it still is, is it, yeah, back into place?

00:14:53.320 You know, it just, it's, it's, it's, they're, they've got an agenda and part of their agenda is to scare Canadians and they did a really good job at it in Ottawa, you know, with, with the truckers convoy and stuff.

00:15:05.040 And, you know, they, they went way, way beyond their powers.

00:15:09.160 But, you know, of course, when, when, when you're, when you're governing yourself or, you know, investigating yourself, of course, you're going to come out on top every time.

00:15:18.640 So nothing became of that, but, you know, that's, that, that's where we're at right now with guns.

00:15:24.500 I'll tell you a story.

00:15:25.700 I do a lot of gun shows across Canada.

00:15:28.580 I have people walking up to us that have good government jobs and they want to make a donation to the NFA.

00:15:35.020 And we, we write down everybody that wants to make a donation.

00:15:39.760 We get their information so we can thank them.

00:15:42.160 A lot of people don't want to give us any information.

00:15:46.060 They, they just, they want to stay out of it because they're worried about their job.

00:15:49.920 What kind of country do we have here when people are worried about their jobs, you know, by making a donation to a gun lobby?

00:15:56.540 It's, it's, it's ridiculous.

00:15:58.060 Yeah.

00:15:58.660 To a completely legal organization defending the property rights of other people.

00:16:03.600 You know, I like how the Americans look at political donations.

00:16:08.620 They look at it as free speech.

00:16:11.500 I'm letting my money do the talking for me because I can't do the talking.

00:16:16.380 I don't have the power, the platform.

00:16:17.980 I'm going to give it to somebody who does.

00:16:19.940 And it is a form of self-censorship when you have so frightened people by what this tyrannical government can do to you for disagreeing with them, that they just want to remain anonymous.

00:16:33.120 That's a very Stalinistic way to be.

00:16:36.320 Yeah.

00:16:36.900 Yeah.

00:16:37.340 And then icing on the cake, you know, suppress the media anyway with their, with 11 and 18, right?

00:16:43.120 You know, you know, don't let the word get out.

00:16:45.720 Great way to run a country.

00:16:46.940 You know, don't let the, don't let the media, don't let the, don't let the free and, and good media out.

00:16:51.900 And, you know, they have their, of course they have their government controlled mainstream media, which, you know, looks like it's not doing too well in the last few days.

00:16:59.080 But anyway, just, you know, why not censor, you know, that, that's their idea.

00:17:05.740 If, if there's, if, if there's true information coming out there, let's censor it.

00:17:09.820 You know, let's, let's, let's put a couple of bills in place to censor information.

00:17:14.600 I know even on our, we've been seeing it on our social media platforms.

00:17:18.140 We've been getting shadow banned like crazy.

00:17:20.140 Uh, we work, we work with rebel, we work with rebel on, in other aspects besides your show, you know, we do a lot of, we do a lot of stuff on the other end of rebel and, uh, it's being, it's being shadow banned.

00:17:30.380 It's being censored, you know, before, uh, before, uh, uh, 11, 18, you know, we get, you know, thousands, you know, thousands and thousands of views and stuff.

00:17:39.080 And all of a sudden, when those bills came into place, uh, all of a sudden they dropped down to a few hundred, you know, censorship along with everything else, you know, and I'm, I'm going a little bit.

00:17:50.020 Out of my alley here, but man, it just, because it, because it's affecting us, it's affecting us directly.

00:17:55.780 This, this censorship stuff has got to stop.

00:17:59.060 It has to stop.

00:18:00.200 You know, Canada's can't, can't Canadians can't live in the shadow like they're living right now. 0.89

00:18:04.360 No, it's true.

00:18:05.520 I mean, and that's the thing you exist in a world where you need to be able to speak truth to, to power, uh, in the same way that I do.

00:18:14.920 That's part of your job is holding powerful people to account.

00:18:18.340 And you can't do that if the very powerful people you're trying to hold to account are the ones that can silence you, that can make sure that nobody ever hears what you have to say.

00:18:28.860 People don't have to listen to me.

00:18:30.340 I don't need people to listen to me.

00:18:32.060 I need them to have the opportunity to listen to me if they please.

00:18:36.480 And the government is taking that away from us.

00:18:38.700 Um, what, what can we expect in 2024?

00:18:42.820 Let's start with from the government.

00:18:45.800 What can we expect from them?

00:18:46.820 Uh, the way it's looking, I'm hoping, uh, I'm hoping, uh, uh, there's going to be an election soon.

00:18:54.860 If, uh, if that happens, uh, it's going to put, uh, it's going to put a lot of stuff into play, especially for us.

00:19:00.840 Uh, we're going to get the word out there for about every politician.

00:19:04.520 I don't care what color they're, they, uh, they wear.

00:19:07.500 We'll put, we'll put their platforms out there and, uh, let them, let the people know, uh, what they're about.

00:19:13.100 Uh, the NFA doesn't endorse candidates.

00:19:15.820 Uh, uh, we're going to, we're going to let people make up their own minds and we'll, we'll go from there.

00:19:20.360 But we'll definitely, uh, we'll speak to anybody that wants to speak to us.

00:19:23.960 If, uh, if Justin Trudeau wants to come on NFA talk, I'll be more than happy to have them.

00:19:28.680 And I would, I would actually love that.

00:19:30.120 Uh, but, uh, uh, you know, uh, if anybody wants to come out, if Judd Mead Singh wants to come out and, uh, you know, speak to us and, uh, give us his position on firearms.

00:19:40.020 And, uh, of course they won't because their, their, their position isn't friendly to any of our people, but, uh, you know, and, and as far as the CPC, uh, or anybody else, you know, we'll, we're definitely going to put their positions out, uh, during the election.

00:19:53.640 We're not going to, we're going to run behind the scenes.

00:19:55.960 We're not going to put, we're not going to, we're going to, not going to try to put firearms to the forefront of an election.

00:20:00.980 Uh, that's what the, we're not going to give the liberals, uh, you know, ammunition for their cause basically, but, uh, we're going to run behind the scenes.

00:20:08.820 And, uh, like I say, we'll get the information out.

00:20:10.920 Just, uh, any politician that, you know, wants to get his word out, uh, get ahold of our, uh, get ahold of our, uh, social media guys.

00:20:18.200 And, uh, we'll definitely get their word out across our social media.

00:20:21.060 We have a pretty extensive reach now and, uh, we'll get the word out.

00:20:24.120 We're going to be working hard, uh, as far as the NFA, we're still going to be out there.

00:20:29.380 We're going to be out there doing events across Canada.

00:20:31.440 Again, we're going to be meeting people from coast to coast.

00:20:34.440 Uh, we, uh, we'll be attending other events too.

00:20:37.100 A couple of our people attended your event that you had there a few weeks ago.

00:20:41.400 And, uh, you know, we, uh, we, we sure we, we love going to those events because, you know, we get to, we get to meet like-minded people.

00:20:47.660 And, uh, that's another thing I wanted to say too.

00:20:50.020 The NFA just isn't firearms owners.

00:20:52.320 We have a lot of members that, that don't own firearms, but they're, you know, freedom loving Canadians that, that want to join a group to protect their rights and their freedoms.

00:21:00.660 And that's why they join, you know, and when we attend, uh, when we attend rebel news events and stuff, we meet a lot of people that we don't normally meet.

00:21:08.120 And I love going to those events.

00:21:10.020 I would have been at the one in Calgary, but I got, I had, uh, uh, uh, uh, another engagement at that time.

00:21:15.880 But, uh, it was, it was, uh, it was a great time for our people to get out and meet some people that are like-minded.

00:21:21.000 And at the end of the day, these are the people that are going to change this country.

00:21:25.860 These are the people that are going to get out and vote.

00:21:27.620 These are the people that are going to, you know, uh, tell their MPs what we need to do in Canada to make Canada a decent place again.

00:21:35.760 Because right now, Sheila, Canada is not a decent place for any freedom loving individual, firearms owners, or likewise.

00:21:43.820 Yeah.

00:21:45.200 Your people were so well received at our Rebel Live event in Calgary that I couldn't get to their table.

00:21:52.240 They had a long table, a lineup of people.

00:21:55.880 They were selling memberships.

00:21:57.200 They were selling merch.

00:21:58.980 And by the time that I got done doing what I needed to do and the line had died, the thing that I wanted to buy was gone.

00:22:05.360 I really wanted an NFA jackknife.

00:22:07.560 I love a good jackknife.

00:22:08.840 I'm a farmer.

00:22:10.220 Um, and it was gone.

00:22:11.460 I think they had three.

00:22:12.680 They were all gone.

00:22:13.880 Um, and a lot, I, I hear every time that you're on the show, Rick, I hear from regular viewers of the show who say, I just joined the NFA.

00:22:24.040 I'm not a firearms owner, but I care about freedom.

00:22:26.980 And I also care about my fellow Canadians not being scapegoated for the crimes of others.

00:22:31.800 There are a lot of people who care about that, that, that we're focusing on the wrong people.

00:22:37.160 We need to be worried about the bad guys, not the good guys in our neighborhood.

00:22:40.600 And I hear from a ton of regular viewers of the show who are members of the NFA simply because they care about freedom.

00:22:49.280 And that for sure, for sure was my experience at Rebel Life, watching the long lineup of people talking to, uh, the folks that you had there.

00:22:59.200 I hope you guys continue, I hope you guys continue those events because I know I did, I did the one, uh, uh, uh, the other side of Toronto there, uh, last year, a couple of years ago.

00:23:07.320 And it was a great, it was, it was a full house.

00:23:09.360 Uh, I love attending those events.

00:23:10.900 I love meeting people.

00:23:12.200 I love talking to like-minded people.

00:23:15.080 You know, there's so many of them out there that aren't gun people.

00:23:17.560 You know, we kind of got our little, uh, you know, our, our, our, our gun, our, our gun people across Canada.

00:23:22.740 But when you get outside that box and you start talking to people and they're like-minded, I just, I love that.

00:23:27.780 You know, I, I, like I, I told our people, we need to attend every one of those events we can just to meet some, uh, like-minded people.

00:23:35.240 Yeah.

00:23:35.620 You guys are more than welcome to attend all of our events.

00:23:37.800 We love having you guys there.

00:23:39.120 And I, I think too, for the, like the people in Toronto, like in Alberta, it's a little different.

00:23:44.080 We will talk guns to everybody.

00:23:45.880 We'll talk freedom to everybody.

00:23:47.040 It's a little different, but it must be a wonderful experience to people in places like Toronto and, and,

00:23:57.780 in Vancouver, to find people who think like you, when you're in this progressive hotbed of, um, of your politicians and unions and wild eyed school board, uh, school board educators.

00:24:13.360 Yeah, but you know what, you know what's really funny though?

00:24:15.560 Yeah.

00:24:16.000 I live in Southern Ontario, but I can look out of my office window at any time and I can see, uh, trucks going by with the flags on them.

00:24:23.460 You know, the flags I'm talking about driving by all the time still to this day.

00:24:27.620 So, uh, people haven't forgotten.

00:24:29.420 And, and, uh, I think that's, uh, the liberals are hoping that, uh, people forget what happened in Ottawa, what happened with the firearms, what happened in general with everything, with everything they're all about.

00:24:40.120 But, but people haven't forgot.

00:24:41.620 I'm, uh, I, I can, I can tell you people haven't forgot.

00:24:44.840 No, not now.

00:24:46.000 Not now.

00:24:46.580 I think, um, I think there were things that people could let slide because Justin Trudeau was, he had nice socks and a fancy face and people liked him.

00:24:56.500 So they could, you know, you can get a lot away with a lot of tyranny when, I don't know, some bizarre subset of, uh, middle-aged housewives think that you're attractive. 1.00

00:25:05.760 But now I, I think when you're, when those same middle-aged housewives are having problems buying groceries because of Justin Trudeau's economic policies, the tides will turn on you pretty quick.

00:25:17.360 Uh, Rick, uh, I want to thank, we're recording this on Tuesday right after, um, New Year's Eve.

00:25:24.320 So I realized that this is a day off for a lot of people and I don't want to take up too much of, uh, what may or may not be a day off for you, Rick.

00:25:30.440 But I want to, uh, invite you to let people know how they can get involved in Canada's National Firearms Association.

00:25:37.720 Uh, we're, uh, there's a lot of ways to get involved.

00:25:41.380 Uh, the best way is, uh, go to nfa.ca and, uh, you know, have a look at our website and, uh, and become a member.

00:25:48.020 Uh, you know, you can follow us on, um, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube.

00:25:52.840 Uh, we're out on all the social media platforms, uh, join, become a member.

00:25:58.020 Uh, the, uh, the money goes towards the good fight in Ottawa.

00:26:00.840 You know, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's a, it's a fight for our rights and freedoms and that, and that, and that's what we do.

00:26:05.660 Uh, like I say, uh, you know, follow us.

00:26:08.360 And also, you know, uh, like I say, we, we, we work on the other end of Rebel News.

00:26:11.840 Follow us on the other end of Rebel News too.

00:26:14.040 Reach out, you know, have a look at some of our stuff on there.

00:26:16.500 And, uh, and, uh, I hope, I hope, uh, you know, as many Canadians, uh, get into the fight as we, you know, as we can pick up.

00:26:24.440 Because there's, there's definitely a big fight out there that everybody needs to join.

00:26:27.940 It's getting, uh, you know, I, I don't want to use the word, but I'm going to, I'm going to say the resistance is getting stronger every day.

00:26:33.860 And, uh, we're going to, we're going to keep, uh, we're going to keep moving in that direction.

00:26:37.440 And like I said, 2024 is going to be a banner year for us, I predict.

00:26:41.900 And, uh, we've got a lot of stuff coming.

00:26:43.640 We're giving a lot of guns away.

00:26:44.980 We're giving a lot of merchant merch away and, uh, you know, join us and, uh, get into the fight.

00:26:50.020 Yeah.

00:26:50.500 Buy that merch on the merch store.

00:26:52.500 You guys have a great merch store.

00:26:53.880 You don't plug it enough.

00:26:54.980 Uh, get the jackknife.

00:26:56.120 I didn't.

00:26:57.640 Yeah.

00:26:58.400 Yeah.

00:26:59.060 Yeah.

00:26:59.400 We'll talk.

00:27:01.020 Perfect.

00:27:01.960 Rick.

00:27:02.440 Thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:27:03.860 Um, thanks so much for fighting so hard for law abiding Canadians, gun owners, just like

00:27:08.660 me and my kids, my husband, and, um, well, basically everybody I know, um, you're, you're

00:27:15.220 really fighting for fair treatment for us in our democracy because we've been scapegoated

00:27:20.680 for so long.

00:27:21.540 And, uh, Merry Christmas to you, belated Merry Christmas and happy new year to you and all

00:27:27.920 of the National Firearms Association crew.

00:27:30.200 Yeah.

00:27:30.720 Same to you, Sheila.

00:27:31.440 And thank you.

00:27:31.900 Thank you for, uh, having us on your show.

00:27:33.880 Again, uh, your platform is outstanding.

00:27:36.520 Uh, you know, I, it's, it's, it's a pleasure being on Rebel News.

00:27:40.240 It's, it's, it's, it's the only platform I believe in Canada that's getting the truth

00:27:43.960 out there right now.

00:27:44.720 So, uh, I appreciate everything you guys do at Rebel and happy belated Christmas and,

00:27:49.540 uh, have a really, really good 2024.

00:27:52.120 I think we both will.

00:27:53.440 You know, if we get an election, I think the whole country will.

00:27:56.520 Rick, thanks so much, Rick.

00:27:59.160 Thanks, Sheila.

00:27:59.680 Well, friends, we've come to the portion of the show wherein we take your viewer feedback.

00:28:11.580 I say this every week and I know this is probably pretty redundant for regular viewers, but I

00:28:16.520 actually do care about what you think about the work that we do here at Rebel News, because

00:28:20.160 without you, there is no Rebel News.

00:28:21.720 You see, we don't rely on Justin Trudeau for anything, well, except news fodder, um, unlike

00:28:29.100 the mainstream media who have Justin Trudeau reaching into the pockets of Canadians to give

00:28:33.620 them money to produce content Canadians don't want to consume and feel increasingly disconnected

00:28:40.600 from.

00:28:41.780 So, uh, I want to know what you think.

00:28:44.180 And that's one of the reasons I give you my email address at Sheila at rebelnews.com.

00:28:48.600 If you have feedback about the show, uh, put gun show letters in the subject line so I know

00:28:53.400 why you're emailing me.

00:28:55.100 And, um, maybe if you could kindly make reference to the show that you're talking about, um,

00:29:00.780 because sometimes I don't get to them in the very next week, but also, uh, wherever you're

00:29:06.620 watching us.

00:29:07.080 So if you're watching the free version of the show on YouTube or on Rumble, thank you for

00:29:10.840 sitting through those ads.

00:29:12.000 Every little bit helps.

00:29:13.540 Um, but leave a comment there too.

00:29:16.420 Sometimes I go looking through there to see what you guys have to say.

00:29:20.120 Now, today's letter is a little bit different.

00:29:23.600 It, it's a leftover from letters to Sheila.

00:29:29.020 So last week's show was a special Christmas show.

00:29:33.920 And I addressed, um, letters that you had written to me.

00:29:39.400 You had sent them to letters, letters to rebels.com, I think is what it was.

00:29:45.320 Um, anyways, we do it once a year, so don't send anything there right now.

00:29:49.000 Um, and we do it in the lead up to Christmas and you sent your questions to me.

00:29:54.580 I printed them out.

00:29:55.700 I didn't look at them.

00:29:56.540 I sent them to my kids who snipped them up, put them in the Christmas stocking.

00:29:59.500 And then I read them.

00:30:00.320 Um, and, uh, there was one that came in late after that and I wanted to address it, um,

00:30:09.620 because it's something I get all the time when people see me out in the real world, um, when

00:30:15.640 I'm doing errands at the farm supply store at Costco or whatever.

00:30:20.520 Um, this is one of the number one questions that I get, and I'm sad that I didn't answer

00:30:27.860 it in my letters to rebels episode.

00:30:30.600 Um, but I think it's important that I do answer it.

00:30:33.440 So here it is.

00:30:34.680 It comes from Peter Bass who writes, hi, Sheila.

00:30:41.500 My question is about the real David Menzies you've known and traveled with David.

00:30:47.340 Oh, have I ever?

00:30:49.060 So probably the best to ask.

00:30:52.060 Ric Flair by all accounts is Ric Flair.

00:30:54.380 Woo.

00:30:55.360 24 seven.

00:30:57.040 I'm wondering how the menzoid on camera character we all love so much compares to the real off

00:31:03.480 camera, David.

00:31:04.800 Many things.

00:31:06.000 Okay.

00:31:06.700 Yes.

00:31:06.960 I have traveled with David.

00:31:08.740 I work with him closely every day.

00:31:12.000 However, it's mostly remotely, but David Menzies is one of my favorite people on the entire

00:31:20.060 planet.

00:31:20.460 Now, um, sort of being in charge of making sure he doesn't say and do crazy things when

00:31:26.280 he's famous for saying and doing things that are on the, the edge of crazy can be a little

00:31:32.520 bit difficult and nerve wracking.

00:31:34.440 Like how do you manage somebody like David Menzies?

00:31:37.000 Well, we have a rule, no costumes unless they're pitched in advance.

00:31:42.240 And, uh, he's got a really good reason for the costume and you guys would be surprised

00:31:47.920 like how many costumes I say no to.

00:31:51.640 However, to answer your question about is David Menzies the same in real life as he is on camera?

00:31:59.520 I have to tell you, he's one of those very rare people who is better in person.

00:32:10.300 That gregarious, kind, passionate, funny, bold person that you see on camera.

00:32:19.540 He's all that and more off camera.

00:32:24.700 He's just the kindest, most thoughtful man, but also like always pushing the limits, even

00:32:32.060 in conversations.

00:32:33.900 Um, so yes, if David Menzies were Ric Flair in full feather boa, full woo mode, um, on camera,

00:32:45.240 he's that and more when you meet him in person.

00:32:49.480 Um, I had absolutely the best time in Israel with him in, uh, September.

00:32:55.480 Um, actually it was one of the reasons I was looking forward to going to Israel besides going

00:32:59.180 to the Holy Land was, oh, I get to spend like 10 days with David Menzies.

00:33:02.840 Um, yeah, I, I just, uh, how, how you guys know him?

00:33:08.400 I know him like that and more.

00:33:10.400 He's one of the best people you'll ever have the pleasure of meeting.

00:33:14.520 And if you count David Menzies as a friend, boy, you're a lucky, lucky person.

00:33:20.380 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:33:22.060 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:33:23.980 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:33:26.780 And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - January 03, 2024

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Firearms owners had a tough year in 2023 – Is there any hope for 2024？

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