Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Gun grab flops： Tracey Wilson explains the Liberals’ embarrassing buyback 'pilot'

00:00:00.000 The government of Canada is proving itself to be terribly incompetent and I couldn't be happier

00:00:07.880 about it. Yes, we're talking about the gun grab today. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching

00:00:12.180 The Gun Show.

00:00:30.000 Now, normally I don't cheer for government incompetence because it means a waste of taxpayer money and

00:00:37.400 usually something very, very bad being inflicted on poor law-abiding Canadians. And I should tell

00:00:46.680 you that the gun grab is something bad being inflicted on everyday Canadians. Law-abiding

00:00:52.540 Canadians who've done nothing wrong. They're not criminals except by way of an act of government

00:00:58.280 deciding to outlaw their property that was lawfully obtained and never used in the commission

00:01:03.680 of a crime. But it appears as though Canadians are uncooperative to say the least with Public

00:01:14.980 Safety Minister Gary Ananda Sangri's attempts to have us willfully turn over our property

00:01:22.380 to them. Their latest attempt at people self-confiscating their firearms mustered about two dozen guns

00:01:33.740 from a little over a dozen people. And hopefully this will teach the government that this is

00:01:42.320 a bad idea and Canadians don't want it. But, you know, this government is not a government

00:01:47.800 that learns anything easily. Now, today I have Tracy Wilson from the Canadian Coalition for Firearms

00:01:54.260 Rights to discuss the failures of Gary Ananda Sangri's gun control legislation and also where

00:02:03.340 policing money could be better spent in this country. Take a lesson.

00:02:08.700 Joining me now is good friend of freedom and good friend of the show, Tracy Wilson of the Canadian

00:02:22.820 Coalition for Firearms Rights. Tracy, I wanted to have you on the show because I've been watching

00:02:27.700 with quiet bemusement, although it's not so quiet. And when I think about it, I'm not all that bemused

00:02:34.580 because it's a tyrannical thing that the federal government's doing, but I'm pleased to see it's

00:02:41.460 failing. And that is Gary Ananda Sangri's failed gun buyback. And I loathe to use the word buyback

00:02:49.500 because these guns were never the federal government's property in the first place. But

00:02:54.720 the uptake does not match the expenditure or the political capital being waste on this thing. Tell us

00:03:02.680 all about it. Well, the more interesting number here. Okay, we'll backtrack. So the government's

00:03:07.440 been banning guns from licensed gun owners since May of 2020, as you well know. And of course,

00:03:12.780 there's no rhyme or reason. There's no method to their madness. They're just picking this gun,

00:03:17.940 but not that gun and continually adding to the list. And at the same time, promising that they're going

00:03:23.100 to go around and confiscate these from law abiding citizens like you and I, which of course, I've said

00:03:28.120 right from the beginning is logistically impossible. It's such a monumental effort that

00:03:34.700 the resources just simply don't exist for it. So what do they do here? They test out their system

00:03:41.180 with a pilot program in Little Cape Breton, picking on, you know, socio economically disadvantaged

00:03:47.960 communities. They pick on Cape Breton and they do this pilot program. And the idea here is they're

00:03:53.700 going to collect 200 firearms from people. And that should be enough to do the testing to test this

00:03:59.400 national system before they roll it out. So you're right, uptake was low. They only managed to grab

00:04:04.500 25 guns, you know, probably from a bunch of, you know, widows or whatever. But the more interesting

00:04:10.380 number here is actually the number 16, only 16 people participated. And, you know, we know the way

00:04:17.120 the bureaucracy works and government works testing a program of this scope and complexity on 16 people.

00:04:24.860 And Gary saying that it was a huge success is not just laughable. It's actually concerning

00:04:31.880 for the competence of not just this government, but Gary in particular, like just a whopper of a lie.

00:04:38.920 Like the amount of money that will be wasted on this program is going to be astounding. I'm sure

00:04:47.740 it's going to be well over a billion, probably two, because everything the government does is twice

00:04:53.700 what you even imagine it is. And this was done in a very reliably liberal voting place.

00:05:01.720 Yeah. And the uptake was entirely low. So now when you think about rolling this out to places like

00:05:07.000 beautiful downtown Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta, I mean, it ain't gonna work, it ain't gonna work,

00:05:14.660 but they just keep proceeding with this thing. And claiming it's a success. Like there,

00:05:21.480 we have the evidence that it's not, but they will get up and hold a press conference saying what a

00:05:26.220 wild success it was. Well, liberals only tell the truth when they think nobody's listening. And we've

00:05:31.360 actually got evidence of that from Gary himself. You'll remember a few months back where I leaked

00:05:37.320 out that audio about Gary talking to one of his tenants. And he was very clear that this isn't

00:05:42.680 about public safety, that the gun grab is not going to work as a public safety measure. You know,

00:05:47.840 it's not really going to be enforced. If his tenant gets in trouble and gets arrested or whatever,

00:05:54.180 don't worry about it, he'll bail you out. If you get ripped off during the process of going through

00:05:58.960 the confiscation program, you get ripped off by the government, don't worry about it, he'll top it up.

00:06:04.960 Like just ludicrous behavior out of this guy, right? And, and here's the problem. What they're

00:06:11.360 going to do first is they'll open up this portal. So gun owners like you and I will be expected to go in

00:06:17.120 there and self report. And this is the dangerous part. Because, you know, they know about our AR-15s,

00:06:24.020 those were previously restricted and therefore registered. And like I've always said, the only

00:06:29.260 purpose for registration is confiscation. So those they're going to have, we have no choice,

00:06:34.940 they know we've got them. But almost everything else, they have no idea who's got what. So they

00:06:40.680 are completely reliant on you self reporting on yourself, and providing the government and law

00:06:47.060 enforcement, a list of the guns that you on that are banned, because they have no idea. And then

00:06:53.560 they've been very clear that not only is not every gun owner going to be compensated,

00:06:59.100 because the pod is capped at $742 million. But even if you participate, you will be ripped off.

00:07:06.960 So we had the guy who posted on CGN, which is a, you know, a Canadian firearms

00:07:12.240 forum, you know, like a social media forum. And he had detailed his experience, he got beaten up for

00:07:20.360 participating. And why'd you do it? And whatever. But to be honest, I'm actually grateful to, to have

00:07:25.460 his, you know, his take on it, right, right, and to see it from the inside. And he described exactly

00:07:30.940 what happened and how it went, described what the price was listed on the government website,

00:07:35.900 okay, here's what you're going to get for what you've got. He went through the process,

00:07:39.500 and he got less than half of that, he got completely ripped off. So, you know, at the end

00:07:44.720 of the day, if the goal here truly was that these firearms must be just so dangerous that,

00:07:51.700 you know, us Canadians who've owned them for decades, if not generations, shouldn't own them,

00:07:56.000 what they would do is they would just be honest. And they would say, look, okay, we're going to take

00:07:59.660 these guns, but we're going to provide you proper compensation. I mean, we don't want it anyways.

00:08:04.100 But that's what they would do. The fact that it is entirely dependent on you ratting on yourself

00:08:11.300 and providing the governmental list of your firearms. They're very clear that not everyone's

00:08:16.280 going to get paid. In fact, less than 1% of gun owners will get paid, right? And those who do get

00:08:21.220 paid will get ripped off. Like, I don't, I don't, I don't understand what they're doing here. I mean,

00:08:27.400 it's the worst PR exercise I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, we're six years almost into this mess.

00:08:35.700 And they are, I guess they're trying to create a sense of FOMO, the fear of missing out, because,

00:08:41.820 you know, now your firearms are illegal, and we've capped the compensation program. So you must rush,

00:08:49.440 you must be the first to turn your firearms in. And they're taking advantage of people

00:08:54.720 in a horrible economic climate, who are hard up for money, like who you and I were saying,

00:09:01.360 before we started recording, you know, of those 16 people who participated in this highly successful

00:09:07.660 buyback program. How many of them are widowers or widows who don't don't know what to do with

00:09:13.420 these firearms, they don't have a gun license. So they don't, they're here, just take them,

00:09:17.300 I don't want to be a criminal. And the other people are probably just hard up for cash,

00:09:21.240 thanks to how the liberals have mismanaged the economy. And so they've created this sense of,

00:09:28.780 well, they're going to get me, they're going to take my guns anyway, I guess I should maybe be the

00:09:33.520 first to turn them in, because when they do take them, I won't be compensated. It's just a very

00:09:39.440 sinister, manipulative thing the federal government is doing.

00:09:42.920 Oh, yeah. During the technical briefing for this, this pilot program, with the the public safety

00:09:50.120 officials, my partner at work, Rod Giltaka actually called it the Hunger Games for gun owners. Yeah, 0.95

00:09:56.300 we're going to be clamoring over each other and stepping on each other to try and be the first to

00:10:01.360 sign up in the hopes that you get something, anything at all. And my message to gun owners is,

00:10:06.700 look, we're all protected by that amnesty, regardless of where you live,

00:10:10.720 until at least the end of October 2026. And I would assume it will have to be extended again,

00:10:16.820 they're already floating, that they need to have a far longer trial period for this, right? They're

00:10:22.460 already floating that. And we know exactly why that is, because they know they're not actually

00:10:25.360 going to get it done. So my message is a lot can change between now and next October, all kinds of

00:10:31.640 things can happen. Politics is crazy. We know that over the last year, if not 10 years. So, you know,

00:10:37.700 just hold the line a little longer and see what happens. And don't forget, we're also still waiting

00:10:43.740 to hear back from the Supreme Court, if they're going to grant us leave to take our case before

00:10:49.480 them. So, you know, they say it's not over till the fat lady sings. And I would agree, it's definitely 0.99

00:10:55.540 not over yet. Well, and it I think the liberals have, it's pretty clear, they've never actually

00:11:02.260 talked to a gun owner, because for so many of us, it isn't about the compensation, they could pay us

00:11:08.560 for some of us, they could pay us more than our firearms are worth. And we still wouldn't turn the

00:11:12.980 darn things right to the state, because it's about freedom. It's about property rights. And it's about 0.95

00:11:19.040 not being scapegoated for the failures of the liberal government to address the crime rates in this

00:11:25.800 country. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, the the lies that they're not just telling to gun owners,

00:11:31.080 the general public sort of lay the groundwork for what this is going to look like. They're talking

00:11:36.600 about compensating for 152,000 firearms. We know there's over 97,000 AR-15s alone. Right. So it's

00:11:44.600 like, what do you mean only 152,000 guns? And they want people to think that because then when they get

00:11:50.520 maybe, I don't know, 70 or 80,000, they can be like, you know, this was a massive success. It was a

00:11:56.220 huge portion. 70% update. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But meanwhile, the true number, you know, we've

00:12:02.720 tried to do a bunch of backwork on this. Rod did some research with a bunch of industry partners

00:12:08.460 and looking, I mean, they've got the records from global affairs. If they wanted to be honest about

00:12:13.160 that number, they've got it, but it's well over 2 million guns. So would you think about that if they

00:12:19.040 end up collecting, let's say 70,000 guns from people who are afraid, you know, maybe they're AR-15

00:12:24.000 owners and they turn in their stuff because the government knows they've got them, right?

00:12:29.920 They'll get their 70,000 guns and call it some sort of, you know, it was sort of successful.

00:12:35.760 Meanwhile, the true number is well over 2 million guns and it's never going to happen.

00:12:41.380 You know, we've seen the games the liberals play when dealing with people who know a little

00:12:45.940 something about something. And I look at this from a journalistic point of view when our friend

00:12:51.120 from Caliber magazine tried to attend a press conference on the issue of the gun grab, he

00:12:58.860 was excluded. And, you know, you couldn't have somebody there who actually knows something

00:13:05.680 about the issue. The liberals limit their press conferences exclusively pretty well to the

00:13:11.800 mainstream media. And there's a reason for that is because they don't generally know anything

00:13:16.720 about anything on this issue. So they rely on the ignorance of the mainstream media and

00:13:23.660 the ignorance of the liberal voter. And I mean, ignorance in that you don't know what you're

00:13:28.280 talking about, not that you're just like a stupid person, but you just, you don't have 1.00

00:13:32.560 the knowledge. They rely on that. It's very predatory. 1.00

00:13:36.700 Oh, it is. It absolutely is. And they, they like having just their preferred media, their legacy

00:13:41.220 media wrapped around them. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the questions were all pre-vetted,

00:13:47.160 you know, if there's any questions at all. Normally it's just, you know, mainstream media

00:13:51.640 stories nowadays are basically just a verbatim repetition of what the minister said, right?

00:13:58.220 That, that is the story. There's no more investigating or, or whatever, but we haven't had a lot of media

00:14:04.140 the last few days on this issue. But, you know, I, again, I'll, I'll circle back to that audio

00:14:11.600 recording from earlier in the year when Gary thought, you know, nobody was listening and he

00:14:16.560 told the truth. I don't think it will be enforced, you know, again, unless you give that list to law

00:14:24.540 enforcement or to the, to the government of what firearms you own over and above your AR-15s,

00:14:30.460 they have no idea. So yeah, they know that we know that. And, uh, it'll be interesting to see

00:14:36.680 how this all plays out. You know, and more provinces and territories are joining the coalition of, uh,

00:14:43.340 defending firearms owners. We've seen, uh, strong moves out of Alberta. We're, we've seen Saskatchewan

00:14:49.540 get real creative with what you're doing over there. So, um, offering to store firearms, also, uh,

00:14:55.900 fund, uh, creating an agency to license people involved in the gun grab, and then not funding

00:15:01.260 that agency, which is just perfectly Scott Moe. And then, you know, we've seen the Yukon with

00:15:07.340 Curry Dixon saying that, uh, he will not be abiding by the federal government's attacks on law-abiding

00:15:14.340 gun owners. Um, and it, it's especially egregious to go around snatching guns. I mean, it is,

00:15:20.940 uh, it's always bad, but in places like Yukon, where there are so many people who are subsistence

00:15:26.100 hunters because of the cost of living. Yeah. Well, and it, you know, it's, it's interesting

00:15:31.440 because you, you would think that Carney being supposedly this more pragmatic guy, that he

00:15:36.500 would be moving away from these divisive Trudeau era policies. Right. Right. And nothing shows the

00:15:42.520 divide more when you've got provinces like Alberta, Saskatchewan, and the Yukon, um, you know,

00:15:48.200 vehemently opposing it, putting these roadblocks in place, really creative legislative moves to

00:15:53.400 protect their citizens. Like that should be the number one job of any government is to protect

00:15:58.360 their citizens. And that's exactly what they're doing. And then you've got back over here on the

00:16:03.240 other side of me, who's just, you know, willing to sell them out for a lousy 12 million bucks.

00:16:08.260 And I mean, that number to people like you and I is a huge number. I can't even begin to imagine

00:16:13.080 what I would do with $12 million, but to an entire province, that's nothing. It's peanuts.

00:16:18.340 And it shows how little their citizens are worth to them. Right. And the, you know, you've got the

00:16:24.240 in-between provinces where they, they don't really support the gun grab, but they're not going to put

00:16:28.780 any, um, extreme measures in place to oppose it like Ontario, where I am. Right. Doug Ford's been

00:16:33.800 vocal that he doesn't support it, but you know, he's one of those. He hasn't done anything either.

00:16:38.380 No, no. He's one of those careful fence setting guys. He's really loves his majority government

00:16:43.840 and doesn't want to, you know, put any toes in the water that might impact that. Um, but yeah,

00:16:50.200 you've got almost the entire country stacked up against it. Law enforcement's been very vocal

00:16:54.900 about, um, not supporting this. And then on the support side, all you've got is Quebec and the

00:17:01.300 anti-gun lobby groups. Like, I don't know if it's worth as many votes as they think it is. I think that,

00:17:07.180 um, gun control sponge has been, uh, run dry and people see the videos of the home invasions and

00:17:13.500 the shootings and all the crazy stuff going on. And I think the appetite for this stuff is, is it's

00:17:21.520 over. Like it's done. So, well, from your lips to God's ears. Now I was actually going to bring up

00:17:27.460 the, the crime in this country, because while I love the CCFR Facebook page and your social media

00:17:35.060 accounts, it is, uh, many days, uh, a stark accounting of the failure of liberal governments,

00:17:43.720 federal bail laws, uh, federal bail laws and progressive cities even to deal with the crime

00:17:50.460 in this country. Um, even just this morning, I see on the CCFR Facebook page, a woman killed a man

00:17:59.740 in self-defense in Calgary. She stabbed him now. She, which is basically having to engage in hand-to-hand

00:18:07.220 combat with a man in an apartment house. Yeah. This is a crazy story actually. And I mean, I,

00:18:16.160 you know, I think it is every woman or every, even every Canadian's worst nightmare to find 1.00

00:18:20.640 themselves in that situation. But this was the second time she was showing this guy, the apartment

00:18:24.960 and he attacked her and she was able to fend him off, uh, with a knife and yeah, she killed him. And I

00:18:33.300 mean, I, I would never want to be in her shoes. Like what a horrific thing to go through. I can only

00:18:38.720 imagine what is going on in her mind right now, but you know what? She's alive. And that's a lot more

00:18:45.000 than we can say for, unfortunately, a steady stream of video evidence that we've been putting out on our

00:18:51.340 social media. I, you know, they call us the gun lobby and I suppose that's true. We are. Um, but 0.74

00:18:57.060 at the same time, we're also the public safety lobby, you know, we're just average Canadians.

00:19:01.300 I want a safer country. I want my kids and my grandson to be safe and I want you to be safe.

00:19:06.120 And I want everybody, like I would, I want everybody to win. So yeah, it's just really frustrating

00:19:11.420 to see the government so solely focused on chasing around legal licensed gun owners who've done

00:19:19.440 nothing to warrant it. And this stuff's just going on. And I think, I don't know, I, I get it that we

00:19:26.280 are two sides of a coin. There is a divide between left and right, but there shouldn't be so much a

00:19:31.100 divide between just decency, you know, just decent moral, you know, I want all Canadians to be safe,

00:19:39.380 not just conservatives. Right. So, yeah. Uh, you know, we've got extortion on the rise,

00:19:45.580 which is, I think by and large, a gang related crime in the lower mainland of BC and in Brampton.

00:19:52.380 Um, and for me, I see the government wasting all these resources on the most law abiding group

00:20:02.160 of Canadian citizens. And I think if I were in policing, I would be so frustrated with the amount 0.96

00:20:09.840 of resources being spent in the wrong direction while you're catching and releasing criminals

00:20:15.820 on the same day so that they can go out and plague your community again. Like how demoralizing

00:20:22.500 for our police to see where the federal government is focusing public safety resources.

00:20:28.240 Well, and I think we saw during the last federal election campaign, you saw a variety of different,

00:20:34.020 um, police unions and police representatives coming out and not just speaking against liberal policy,

00:20:40.660 but actually endorsing the other side. And it's again, you know, when you've got all of these

00:20:46.040 different, uh, you know, people and organizations stacking up against the gun grab and wanting real

00:20:53.360 credible public safety measures. Um, you know, how is it possible that you've got Gary just,

00:21:00.360 you know, stumbling around Parliament Hill, you know, wanting to collect my competition rifle.

00:21:05.500 Like it would actually be hilarious if it wasn't so fricking tragic, you know?

00:21:10.660 Yeah. Yeah. And we, yeah, we've seen these guys not even know the laws that firearms owners have to

00:21:16.680 follow, like standing up in the house of commons and not understanding that, you know, we, we have to

00:21:22.960 have our conjugal partners, whatever that means, sign off on our gun licenses that, you know,

00:21:30.140 we already have a red flag laws in place in this country. Um, I think if you're going to be the

00:21:37.920 public safety minister, scapegoating an entire population of about two and a half million Canadians

00:21:44.720 at sport shooting is the national sport. If you're looking at the numbers, um, they should at least

00:21:51.200 have to subject themselves to the RPAL course. They really should.

00:21:54.360 Yeah. I mean, even like when he, I get it, you know, not everybody knows everything. You can't be

00:22:00.420 an expert in everything. So when he got the position as public safety minister, there's an

00:22:04.900 already existing staff within the department of public safety. And some of them are very talented.

00:22:10.480 They've been there for a very long time. They may have even served back in the day under the Harper

00:22:15.100 government. They, they know their stuff. A simple one pager could have gone a long way for him.

00:22:22.140 Right. And to think not only did his department not prepare him with the most basic of knowledge

00:22:29.060 on this topic, he didn't bother to look into it himself. I mean, you know, I've been working at

00:22:34.860 the CCFR since our inception, but I can remember every job I've ever applied for, you know, okay,

00:22:40.980 you've got the job. Great. You get in there. And the very first thing you got to do is learn the ropes,

00:22:46.100 learn the most basic stuff so that you can at least answer, answer simple questions, especially

00:22:51.580 in a workplace like his, where you have a televised question period every single day. Like what it,

00:22:59.920 to me, it just shows the unserious nature of this government, extremely partisan, you know, like I get it.

00:23:07.020 We're not going to agree on all policies, but just so blindly partisan that they are willing,

00:23:13.340 you're right, to completely scapegoat millions of good people who've done nothing to deserve it.

00:23:18.940 And for what? Like I, I don't, you know, gun control was not even in the top 25 issues in

00:23:27.140 the last election, but public safety was. So, right. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. You would think

00:23:33.780 that you would just brief yourself on your, one of your most expensive flagship policies at public

00:23:39.940 safety. I don't think that's too much to ask of the minister. Now I want to, before I let you go,

00:23:45.940 cause we've been at her for 22 minutes. Although I could talk to you all day. I know the same thing.

00:23:52.140 We could hang out all day and still have lots to talk about, but I have other things to do. And so

00:23:56.860 do you. I want to talk to you about the Toronto sportsman show. I think it's the 78th year this

00:24:03.180 year. Um, tell us about the CCFR's role there. So we are very proud to once again, sponsor the

00:24:10.160 hunting hall. So if you've ever been to the Toronto sportsman show, there's something there for

00:24:13.960 everyone. It's not just, just, you know, guns and hunting. There's five different massive

00:24:19.840 halls filled with all kinds of goodies, hunting, fishing, ATVs, canoes, uh, kayaks, hiking, lots

00:24:28.120 of fun stuff for the kids. Um, so we sponsored the entire hunting hall and we welcome all the

00:24:33.340 other exhibitors who come and exhibit there this year. We've actually partnered with strike

00:24:37.960 sportsman and we've got a really cool, very free attraction for all the people who come

00:24:44.260 through the Toronto sportsman show. And that's our crazy CCFR laser range. So come on by challenge

00:24:50.780 me to, to a dual, you know, uh, test the kids ability. It's totally free. We would never dream

00:24:57.520 of charging anybody for it. It is so much fun. You can shoot the laser pistols. We've got laser

00:25:04.160 AR 15s, all the fun stuff and totally free. The kids love it. So yeah, it'll be a, be a lot of fun.

00:25:11.740 So come on by the Toronto sportsman show. Rod and I will be there throughout the show. I think he's

00:25:16.480 doing, um, a presentation up on the stage on the Saturday as well, but yeah, we're just, we're really

00:25:21.960 proud to play a big role at the Toronto sportsman show and just continue to support and promote that

00:25:28.900 heritage across the country. Awesome. Now you hinted at the CCFR's legal challenges, uh, fighting on

00:25:36.300 behalf of law-abiding Canadian firearms owners. Uh, that stuff is expensive, expensive and time

00:25:44.140 consuming. So how do people get involved in the fight? Well, we can always use the help. You can

00:25:49.940 find us at CCFR.ca. And, you know, to be honest, if you're looking just to do a little more than send

00:25:56.200 a few bucks our way, which of course we're, we're always happy to have, and we're very grateful,

00:26:00.140 but if you're looking to volunteer, we're always looking for people to come out, help us out. Even

00:26:04.720 at events like the Toronto sportsman show, you want to come out and work the laser range. There's no

00:26:09.340 better job. Um, send an email to volunteer at CCFR.ca. And of course, stay tuned to, uh, you know,

00:26:16.940 we have a bi-weekly podcast and TV show, CCFR radio and CCFR radio on the air. It's basically like a

00:26:23.940 quick half hour rundown of everything going on. So it is very difficult to keep up to date

00:26:29.840 with the ever-changing, uh, cycle of news on the gun file. So a lot of people have come to rely on

00:26:35.880 it. Like I just need the truth and I need to know what's going on. I watch CCFR radio. So

00:26:40.740 yeah, just bi-weekly everywhere you listen to your regular podcasts.

00:26:44.840 Yeah. It's an incredible asset, even for somebody like me who has to pay attention to these things in

00:26:49.260 the course of their work. I'm like, well, what's Tracy saying about this? And don't forget,

00:26:53.080 you guys have one of the best merch stores in the business. Yeah, we do go to CCFR.ca. You can

00:26:58.920 find the merch shop on there. We also have an app. It's totally free to download and it takes you

00:27:03.740 straight into the, uh, to the store. Um, there's all kinds of deals in there. We've sort of got like

00:27:09.300 a little bargain cave, a discount center in there as well. Uh, stuff as low as 10 bucks. So check it

00:27:15.320 out. We'll be adding more to that as we go. So, uh, bookmark that link and just keep going back and

00:27:20.940 checking. And, uh, yeah, all of that goes into the big pot that helps us feel this machine. That

00:27:27.220 is the CCFR. Awesome. Tracy, thanks so much for coming on the show and thanks so much for all the

00:27:32.100 hard work you do on behalf of families, just like mine. Thanks for covering it. And we will see you

00:27:37.900 soon. Awesome. Well, the last portion of the show, I always turn over to you because without you,

00:27:49.600 there's no rebel news. I say it every week. It's probably getting redundant for a bunch of you,

00:27:53.900 but we don't take any money from the federal government. And how could we ever hold the

00:27:59.180 federal government to account? If we did, we would just be repeaters and not reporters. And

00:28:04.640 that's why I care about what you think about the work that we do. I do read the comments on YouTube.

00:28:09.880 I do read the comments over on rumble, not just on my work, but on all the work that we do at rebel

00:28:15.320 news. And I give you my email address right now. If you've got comments about the show today,

00:28:20.360 put gun show letters in the subject line and send it to me, Sheila at rebel news.com that comes right to 0.97

00:28:27.180 me. And who knows? You might just see your comments read on air. So last week I had good

00:28:34.300 friend of rebel news, Tom Harris on the show. He's from the international climate science

00:28:38.800 coalition, Canada. And we were talking about how all of Canada's climate policy seems to be built on

00:28:48.160 a bed of shifting sand that the data that they're using to draft these policies, you know, where they

00:28:56.560 say, Oh, Canada is warming at two times the global rate as if you could even tell that.

00:29:03.880 But everywhere seems to be warming at two times the global rate. You could just warming it two times

00:29:09.480 the global rate, put that into your Google search and see which countries come up. It's Canada, but

00:29:14.540 it's all of them. So we can't all be warming at two times the global rate. It's almost like it's all

00:29:19.300 made up. Well, Tom and one of his colleagues sort of pointed this out. And the thing is,

00:29:27.080 the federal government knows this. They've had this pointed out to them. They just don't care.

00:29:32.300 It's almost as though this sort of thing isn't about climate at all, but like wealth transfer

00:29:36.620 and possibly control of everything you do. You know, not based on science, tell me to follow the

00:29:43.420 science and I do and they're like, Oh, not not that science, Sheila. That's inconvenient.

00:29:48.060 Um, well, I got a letter from Peter who says, Hi, Sheila, just watched the January 7th show.

00:29:57.200 Great exposing what BS the climate change narrative is, but I feel this is no longer necessary. Well,

00:30:02.740 I think it is because we're still subject to it in Canada. So I'm going to keep talking about it as

00:30:07.100 long as we have these horrible policies here. There's one important point missed entirely.

00:30:11.600 That is the great news from the leader of the climate cult, their highest ranking priest,

00:30:16.300 William Gates Jr. himself. Well, it could be Al Gore too. So a lot of oracles, Adelphi,

00:30:23.340 if you know what I mean in this cult. On October 28th, 2025, Bill released an essay entitled

00:30:29.520 Three Tough Truths About Climate, posting it on his own website. He's done a few interviews saying

00:30:34.220 the same too. Here's the first sentences of Bill Gates essay. There's a doomsday view of climate change

00:30:39.740 that goes like this. In a few decades, cataclysmic climate change will decimate civilization. The

00:30:45.340 evidence is all around us. Just look at all the heat waves and storms caused by rising global

00:30:49.460 temperatures. Nothing matters more than limiting the rise in temperature. Fortunately for all of us,

00:30:55.300 this view is wrong. This is Bill Gates saying this. Although climate change will have serious

00:31:00.760 consequences, particularly for people in the poorest countries. I'm not so sure about that. They don't 0.98

00:31:05.620 have extreme weather swings, right? If you're equatorial, most of the poor countries of the

00:31:10.120 world are equatorial. So they don't have wild swings between winter and summer like we do. I mean,

00:31:16.400 we even have wild temperature swings in the winter. Last week was like minus 30. Today it's plus six.

00:31:23.320 There are real challenges. Like how do you build a road when you're dealing with like frost heaves

00:31:29.480 with those wild temperature changes? Anyway, Bill Gates writes, it will not lead to humanity's demise.

00:31:38.440 People will be able to live and thrive in most places on earth for the foreseeable future.

00:31:44.640 So the high priest or the highest priest of the climate cult has admitted that there's no

00:31:48.880 cataclysmic climate change. It will not lead to humanity's demise and the doomsday view is wrong.

00:31:53.520 Terrific news for all. Yes, it is. But and I mean, that's great for the United States. I mean,

00:32:00.320 Trump has already thought this for a long time. You can see them totally disconnecting from the

00:32:05.700 climate madness. But that's not how it is in Canada. You know, we still have our upstream

00:32:12.140 carbon tax on its way. To get a pipeline built, we'll have to pay 600% more in upstream industrial

00:32:19.800 carbon taxes, which of course, get passed along to the consumer in all kinds of different and hidden

00:32:25.260 ways. And it acts as a scarecrow for international investment here. Why would you come here and pay

00:32:30.320 an upstream carbon tax to build a pipeline when you can just pay off the local Algerian warlord 0.62

00:32:35.420 to get things done? So that's why I continue to talk about it.

00:32:41.600 The toughest evidence to refute in a court is a confession. The essay is a confession of the

00:32:47.500 climate hoax from Bill Gates himself. What a smoking gun icing on the cake of the mountain of

00:32:51.400 hard evidence we already have. So I feel pointing to the confession instead of the evidence or at least

00:32:57.180 ahead of the evidence would be far better than the evidence alone. I like to point out the evidence

00:33:02.520 though, because it shows how they rejected the evidence is so Orwellian that they deny the things

00:33:10.280 that they see and hear and read all because they are true, like to some extent, part of a doomsday cult.

00:33:21.340 The good thing about a doomsday cult is that a lot of people leave after the first, second, and third

00:33:27.020 doomsday has never come. They sort of leave the cult. But that also leaves the people staying in the cult the

00:33:33.780 most radicalized. They're really distilled. Those are the ones that you can't rescue. Those are the

00:33:39.060 ones who quite literally drink the Kool-Aid in a jungle and 900th of them die. You know what I mean?

00:33:54.180 So I feel pointing out the confession instead of the evidence, or at least ahead of the evidence,

00:33:58.600 would be far better than the evidence alone. The cult members have brushed off the hard

00:34:02.260 data for several decades. Why would they start listening now? Well, that's also true.

00:34:06.700 Far more effective is to have the guru they worship let them down easy, making the truth

00:34:11.980 more palatable. We won this time. Why not take Bill Gates' white flag confession for a few victory

00:34:17.080 laps? Well, let's, we can do all of these things. Maybe they can move on and dream up the next

00:34:21.960 injustice to pull their blue hair out over. Anyway, all the best. Love the rebel. Peter.

00:34:28.120 Peter, I absolutely see your point. We should be taking some victory laps.

00:34:31.720 Um, but I just don't think those victory laps are to be had quite yet in Canada. You know,

00:34:37.740 we have our premier, my premier here in Alberta talking about emissions targets. Why? Why?

00:34:44.780 I care about real pollution. I care about particulate, like actual things in the air.

00:34:49.880 But do I care about CO2? Not even in the slightest. Um, I only care about it insofar as it is used as a

00:34:59.000 cudgel to make the rest of us poorer and ruin our worst or our best industries. So, um, I'm not ready.

00:35:07.180 I, I, I do see this as a win in the battle, but I think the war is not quite yet won.

00:35:14.920 Um, but yes, it is very hopeful. We got to get Jeff Bezos to quit funding, uh, busy body organizations

00:35:23.920 here in Canada to block pipelines from Alberta because he is. And I'm going to do a story on that

00:35:31.560 because I don't think a lot of people know it. So this is your tip rebel news subscribers,

00:35:36.000 but what I'm working on next. Anyway, that's the show for today. Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:35:40.640 I'll see everybody back here in the same time. And I believe in the same place next week.

00:35:44.360 And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - January 15, 2026

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