Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Have you seen the trailer for our new documentary yet？

00:00:00.000 Oh hey everybody it's me Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're listening to a free audio only recording

00:00:04.400 of my weekly Wednesday night show The Gunn Show. Now tonight my guest is my friend, my colleague

00:00:10.060 Rebel News' head of documentary filmmaking Kian Simone and he joins me tonight to give us an

00:00:17.140 update on the new documentary that he and I are working on together. It's called Church Under Fire

00:00:22.660 Canada's War on Christianity and we have already started work. We're very hard at work actually

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00:01:31.120 Rebel News has a brand new feature-length documentary project in the works. Today we're

00:01:36.780 bringing you an update. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:51.000 Have you heard about our brand new documentary project that we are working very, very hard on?

00:02:03.500 And I'll tell you, we are working very, very hard on it because I'm in the documentary. It's called

00:02:09.800 Church Under Fire, Canada's War on Christianity and it documents the trials and tribulations of the

00:02:16.380 pastors who stood up during the COVID mandates and the attacks on Christianity under the guise of

00:02:23.900 COVID restrictions. I'm in the documentary but really the star of the show is our documentary

00:02:30.740 filmmaker Kian Simone. He heads up all the documentaries that we do here at Rebel News and he

00:02:37.500 is just an incredibly hard worker and very, very difficult to keep up with. You know what? I'll show

00:02:43.580 you right now a little sneak peek from the documentary here. So here's the situation.

00:02:50.260 More and more Canadians are getting vaccinated but like we know, cases in far too many places

00:02:56.900 are far too high. We can't ease public health restrictions until cases are way down.

00:03:04.860 Well, I think there's been a, we're like a boiling frog for a while. I think our freedoms have just

00:03:10.200 been slowly stripped from us and, and, and so slowly over time that we didn't even realize it. And so

00:03:16.480 when something like a health order is put in place that takes away your freedoms, it's not shocking

00:03:22.340 to people and it really should be shocking to people that there is a pastor in jail right now.

00:03:26.880 Out! Do you understand English? Get out of this property! 1.00

00:03:43.640 I praise you for the Lord Jesus Christ as we've experienced the cost of serving him. He is worthy. He is worthy. He is worthy.

00:04:04.320 All right, Mr. Stevens. Yes. Right now, we're just doing our job. Okay.

00:04:08.200 Let's see.

00:04:16.480 Yes, thank you, thank you.

00:04:29.480 Oh, this officer can repent today and turn to Jesus Christ, that's good news.

00:04:34.000 This is good news.

00:05:03.980 We're creating this documentary a little bit differently than we have in the past.

00:05:08.120 We want you to be invested in the documentary as much as we are.

00:05:12.320 So for those of you who are helping us crowdfund our documentary, because of course we do not rely on any money from Justin Trudeau or the government or the National Film Board, which is also the government, we want to maintain our independence and we want to know if you actually care about this project.

00:05:29.060 So we've given perks to our donors at different levels and I think it's an exciting way for our people to also take ownership of this story too.

00:05:40.540 Because without you, there is no Rebel News and there are no projects like this one that set a marker down about what was done to the Christians during the pandemic when so many people want us all to forget.

00:05:57.180 So joining me now is Kian Simone and we're going to talk about our new documentary called Church Under Fire, Canada's War on Christianity.

00:06:06.460 And for those of you who still want to get involved, you can definitely do that.

00:06:10.080 If you donate, there are perks at different levels.

00:06:12.740 You can go to savethechristians.com.

00:06:16.820 Here's Kian.

00:06:17.540 So joining me now is the head of documentary filmmaking here at Rebel News, Kian Simone, whom I have the pleasure of working with on this project.

00:06:33.840 Kian, thanks for coming on the show.

00:06:35.860 You really joined us at Rebel News right in the heart of the crackdown on the Christians.

00:06:41.300 I think your first assignment with us was sleeping on an air mattress in Pastor Art's church.

00:06:47.660 I think I remember that was my first contact with you was this young man has driven across the country and he just started working with us and we're on a Zoom call with him and he has completely agreed to sleep on the floor of a haunted church.

00:07:01.560 Welcome to Rebel News.

00:07:03.420 That was actually my second, but the first one was basically the same.

00:07:07.260 It was before I even started.

00:07:09.960 I was supposed to start on May 1st, on like April 25th.

00:07:14.220 A10, one of our bosses up there, he's like, hey man, we kind of need you tomorrow.

00:07:20.740 And I was like, dude, I have my other job.

00:07:22.700 I'm starting May 1st.

00:07:24.220 He's like, well, there's a pastor about to be arrested and I remember not going into my other shift.

00:07:29.420 And I was just like, okay, well, I guess I'll start tomorrow.

00:07:31.900 And I went to Archer Povlowski's church and hung out there for a really long time while the cops were all outside.

00:07:37.820 And I was like, wow, this is what my job is going to be.

00:07:41.640 This is what it's like.

00:07:43.400 Yep.

00:07:43.740 It's been exactly like that for almost three years now.

00:07:47.420 Yeah.

00:07:48.380 You and I were talking off camera.

00:07:50.240 You also spent, I think, six weeks at Tim Stevens Church in Calgary, just smoking cigarettes in the parking lot waiting for the police to come.

00:07:58.740 So, Saturday it would be Archer Povlowski's church in the parking lot.

00:08:02.380 Sunday it was Tim Stevens for, yeah, six or seven weeks.

00:08:06.200 Yeah.

00:08:06.600 The persecution of Christians in Calgary has done nothing for your cardiovascular health and your lungs.

00:08:14.140 But let's get into why I know that you and I sort of, we came up with this idea and then we just announced it before we had anything formalized.

00:08:24.100 We announced it at a prior documentary screening for another documentary that you had made.

00:08:29.500 I know why I wanted to make it and I know how I ended up here, but why do you want to make this film?

00:08:35.720 Well, I think it's just a, it's one of the biggest things that has ever happened to me in my life.

00:08:40.860 And I'm not even Christian.

00:08:41.680 It's one of those things that I was blessed to be a part of.

00:08:46.740 I don't know if that's weird to say.

00:08:48.680 I'm blessed to be a part of everybody getting arrested, but just blessed to be the one who could tell the story and be the person who could tell it fairly or just be there.

00:08:56.940 You know, it was just like such a good feeling and so important that everybody saw it.

00:09:03.240 So I was really, just felt really good that it was, I was able to do that.

00:09:07.580 Do you understand the English?

00:09:09.340 Get out of this property.

00:09:11.100 And just because I was able to do that and have everything, who better to tell the story than

00:09:41.100 So it was that, it was one of those, it was just one of those, like, I think I just have to do it.

00:09:48.200 And the timing of it, it was just, I understand everybody was, has been in court like the past two years.

00:09:54.180 So we're just waiting to see what happened.

00:09:55.580 And now things are kind of blown over, not blown over, but kind of just slowing down a bit.

00:10:02.180 So where people can now tell their stories, pastors don't have gag orders anymore.

00:10:07.020 People can speak freely of what happened.

00:10:10.120 So I think that that's why I wanted to make it.

00:10:12.980 And that's why now's the time.

00:10:15.480 You say you're not a Christian, but we'll get you. 1.00

00:10:17.960 Don't you worry.

00:10:18.880 Yeah, for me, it was crazy to see the persecution of pastors happening in Alberta under a premier who's, in a previous career at the federal level, made support for religious freedoms internationally a cornerstone of Canada's foreign affairs policy.

00:10:42.320 One of the proudest accomplishments in this place has been to have played a role during the previous government in the creation of the Office of Religious Freedom.

00:10:51.320 And I would like, therefore, to address, first of all, the reason in principle why this office is necessary.

00:10:59.560 Secondly, why it is particularly urgent at this time that Canada and like-minded democracies emphasize the protection of vulnerable religious minorities.

00:11:10.800 And thirdly, I'd like to offer some practical reflections on why I believe this office is necessary, the Department of Foreign Affairs, now Global Affairs.

00:11:21.720 And fourthly, I hope to have time to say a word about the reality of a genocide being inflicted against vulnerable religious minorities in the world today.

00:11:30.820 And yet, when the rubber met the road here in Alberta, Jason Kenney was the harshest locker-downer of Christians.

00:11:42.500 Did that surprise you as someone who fled Ontario because they roped off the grocery store?

00:11:47.880 Did that surprise you?

00:11:48.820 That, you know, while the people were trying their best to live free in spite of the government, the government here in what we like to think of as the freest place in Canada was the harshest on churches.

00:12:02.060 I remember Jason Kenney said no one is above the law, no politician, no one who calls himself a pastor after he was caught on Sky Palace or whatever that building is called.

00:12:13.300 Hey, there's Sid Rezard of Rebel News. I'm not sure if my question would be best directed towards you, but right now, of course, you're investing in religious infrastructure.

00:12:21.780 But I think many around the province have a concern that you may not be best protecting their religious freedoms, as we've seen with Pastor Arthur Pawlowski.

00:12:29.460 He still remains behind bars. This is well over 30 days.

00:12:32.400 If you could just comment on that situation and maybe perhaps ease some concerns or just give some light to that situation.

00:12:39.440 So in Canada, we have something called the rule of law, where courts are responsible for adjudicating criminal charges against individuals, not politicians.

00:12:50.180 So we have an independent judiciary.

00:12:52.980 That individual, I understand, has been detained under by the police because of multiple breaches of terms of release,

00:13:01.440 court orders, as well as an incitement to, an alleged incitement to violence at the Coutts border crossing blockade.

00:13:11.240 And so that individual has all of the rights of any individual under the Canadian legal system.

00:13:18.040 They are presumed guilty and, sorry, excuse me, presumed innocent until proven guilty, of course, in our system of law.

00:13:23.660 And they have a right to access to counsel.

00:13:27.400 They have all of the, that individual or any other individual has all of the same legal rights as anybody.

00:13:31.520 So this is a matter that is before the courts.

00:13:34.080 And, you know, as a more general comment, I would just suggest that going to a very tense, combustible situation

00:13:44.320 and inciting people to be willing to die and commit acts of violence for their cause is very likely to have legal consequences.

00:13:58.340 And I would suggest that, you know, nobody is above the law, no politician, no person that calls himself a pastor is above the law.

00:14:07.800 The rule of law applies equally to everybody in our system of the rule of law.

00:14:11.900 But no, it didn't surprise me at all.

00:14:16.060 You know, like you said, I came out here because of Jason Kenney, really, when he said no vaccine passports.

00:14:22.420 And then two weeks after I got here, he made me show a vaccine passport.

00:14:28.100 But just to show that when he said no one is above the law, it's not like these pastors were killing people.

00:14:35.700 It's not like these pastors were money laundering or just doing something insane.

00:14:39.800 It's he, they made up a law and then made everybody follow it.

00:14:42.960 And you're going to ask this, the one, the one kind of person who's not going to follow something so arbitrary

00:14:48.060 because it goes against what they absolutely believe in, like, no, I wasn't surprised at any of it.

00:14:54.920 It just shows how far left or far gone Jason Kenney was by the time that that happened.

00:15:00.220 I wasn't surprised.

00:15:01.980 You know, I think it's really important that we tell this story and tell it properly in the words of the pastors,

00:15:08.480 giving the pastors an opportunity to speak their motivations.

00:15:11.600 For me, the goal of the documentary is to show that it didn't matter your theology.

00:15:20.140 It didn't matter your style.

00:15:21.800 You could be as wild as Artur Poloski or as gentle as Tim Stevens.

00:15:28.300 Your theology could be one of Anabaptist or Evangelical or Pentecostal or Baptist.

00:15:35.680 None of it mattered because in the end of their crime was that of being a Bible-believing Christian 1.00

00:15:42.700 who believes that their God is above the government.

00:15:47.140 That is the one thread that endures through all of this.

00:15:50.460 So when you hear people say, well, Art, you know, he's so loud.

00:15:53.960 He's so aggressive.

00:15:56.000 I don't like his language.

00:15:58.180 Okay, then tell me about James Coates.

00:16:00.000 He said, tell me about Tim Stevens or, you know, like those Christians in Aylmer, they dress strange. 1.00

00:16:09.320 Their worship service is a little weird.

00:16:11.960 It's not something that people are used to.

00:16:15.820 They bring the horse to no frills.

00:16:17.820 They bring the horse to no frills.

00:16:19.600 That's Old Order Mennonite country. 1.00

00:16:21.780 So it didn't really matter because it happened across all provinces, in different parts of the country.

00:16:30.160 What was the crime was just obedience to God above that of Justin Trudeau and the state.

00:16:36.600 There's an agenda.

00:16:37.720 And I said, we won't fall for it.

00:16:39.140 The police came, they pulled up, and we were in here, we were singing.

00:16:42.820 I actually waved them in.

00:16:44.540 I said, come on in.

00:16:45.940 I mean, come join us in this thing.

00:16:47.700 They took their hats off.

00:16:48.980 They walked in.

00:16:49.560 The sheriff was up front.

00:16:50.740 God will bring us through.

00:16:52.040 And I said, we will not bow down to your gods.

00:16:54.440 We won't.

00:16:55.060 I said, wait a minute.

00:16:56.000 Wait a minute.

00:16:56.540 No frills.

00:16:57.320 People are shopping.

00:16:58.480 People are going in and out.

00:16:59.860 This seems very strange to me.

00:17:01.660 And they said, well, for the sake of the community, you have to stop that.

00:17:04.920 And I said, I'm sorry.

00:17:06.140 I don't think we can do that.

00:17:07.340 They said, well, I think you have to.

00:17:08.660 And I said, I don't think I have to.

00:17:11.220 Yeah, I can totally attest to that part of the goal.

00:17:15.460 I mean, I even think my goal is even just a little bit different, but they both kind of work together so well.

00:17:19.980 But like I said before, I'm not even really Christian.

00:17:24.760 But I understand and I know that this country was built on the foundation of God and the Christian morals and Christian ethics.

00:17:32.720 And, you know, I follow those, even though I'm not Christian. 0.54

00:17:36.500 And I want this documentary to be someone or to be something that someone like me who's 24 or maybe they're 20, maybe they're 35, who isn't Christian, can watch this and say, oh, crap.

00:17:48.340 You know, if they're going for these people, you know, I know I'm next.

00:17:51.900 They are the people who built this country, right, so long ago, like that kind of that religion. 0.95

00:18:01.240 So it's just extremely important that we at least protect that, even as non-Christians, that it's extremely important.

00:18:09.460 You know, for me, I went to northern Iraq in 2019, late 2019, November 2019.

00:18:17.620 And just, you know, like three months later, by the time I got back, the lockdowns were here.

00:18:22.940 And I went to northern Iraq to document the return of the Christians after the ISIS genocide.

00:18:31.340 And I came home and I was embarrassed.

00:18:35.260 You know, I was really embarrassed.

00:18:36.580 I thought, you know, the point of being a Christian is you're not good at it, but it's okay because we have forgiveness built right into it.

00:18:44.260 But I thought, you know, like I care about these things if I were tested, would I do what they did, you know, because the Christians didn't want to relocate. 0.70

00:18:57.200 We went there as Rebel News in partnership with Mercury One and the Nazarene Fund thinking, okay, we're going to raise money to get these people out of here. 0.65

00:19:05.800 They survived ISIS.

00:19:07.560 They were butchered in their churches.

00:19:09.620 ISIS dug up their graveyards because even the Christians couldn't rest in peace.

00:19:15.180 And I thought, how did we let this happen?

00:19:18.580 How come we never prayed for them once in our churches?

00:19:21.520 I came home so embarrassed and humiliated.

00:19:24.740 And I thought, how did it ever get to this?

00:19:28.480 Like, how did it ever get to we're butchering Christians in their churches?

00:19:34.500 And it's a slow creep.

00:19:37.800 And I came home thinking, this is the new thing that I am radicalized against.

00:19:43.620 I've always been against persecution of religious believers.

00:19:47.780 I've always been someone who cared in religious freedom.

00:19:50.540 But when I came home and I saw that, I thought, not only did we do nothing, we didn't even care.

00:19:57.520 And I thought, no, maybe I can't undo a genocide, but I can care.

00:20:02.960 And I can be aware of these issues when they come home.

00:20:07.040 And I think that is one of the reasons why it's so important for me to do this documentary is it started here.

00:20:14.960 That slow roll down the hill towards something more terrible, it starts with forcing Christians to close their doors, telling them how they can worship. 1.00

00:20:26.500 And for me, it's just also I want to make sure that the people who want us to forget are never allowed that from us.

00:20:39.380 That I, as the good book says, I will forgive.

00:20:43.180 Maybe one day I'm a far more vengeful Christian than I should be.

00:20:48.660 But I don't want anybody to forget what these people did in the name of public health.

00:20:55.120 I just got off the line with our videographer, K2, who was on this team.

00:21:06.600 And he told me it was the hardest thing he has ever seen.

00:21:09.420 The family of Pastor Tim Stevens was weeping as he was hauled away in cups like some common criminal.

00:21:16.000 Pastor Tim was once again taken into custody.

00:21:18.860 Numerous police vehicles arrived and put him in a car, taking him away from his family.

00:21:23.800 It was an extremely emotional and harrowing ordeal.

00:21:27.280 And we were there to capture it as it happened.

00:21:29.560 I'm going to let you go now to the footage of his arrest.

00:21:32.280 You know, my story of why I'm so into this is definitely not as powerful.

00:21:54.100 But I kind of, like, found God through Rebel News.

00:22:00.460 Yeah.

00:22:01.080 And it was actually before I started Rebel News.

00:22:04.440 It's because I was applying and applying and applying and never heard anything.

00:22:08.960 And I kind of, when I left Ontario, I had to get, like, the exact same job I had, which was basically lifting couches in a warehouse.

00:22:18.840 Because that was, like, all I was really good at other than camera stuff.

00:22:22.780 And I don't like working.

00:22:25.220 Sounds bad saying this to my boss.

00:22:27.120 I don't like working for people when I have a camera.

00:22:29.980 Hey, look, we've given you as much autonomy as we possibly can.

00:22:33.600 You definitely have.

00:22:34.180 I'm like, do you do it.

00:22:35.060 But my mom's like, go film a wedding. 0.97

00:22:36.820 I'm like, I'm not listening to the bride. 0.91

00:22:38.660 I'm not going to listen to her.

00:22:39.760 Bridezilla.

00:22:40.000 So when I got to Calgary, I was doing the same job.

00:22:44.020 And then the day after I got here is when I got the Rebel News call.

00:22:48.960 And that just, I know it's not as, like, crazy.

00:22:51.680 And that to me was like, whoa, that doesn't seem like a coincidence.

00:22:56.480 And then my first thing is going to Archer's Church.

00:22:58.640 And, you know, I definitely had, like, the best internship in the history of internships anywhere.

00:23:03.520 So that was what kind of got me going.

00:23:08.100 And I was like, okay, this stuff is real.

00:23:10.700 Yeah.

00:23:11.460 You know, for me, my church didn't, I mean, limited itself.

00:23:19.940 But my church didn't take a stand.

00:23:24.120 And it left me disappointed in my church, even to this day.

00:23:30.060 I come from a Catholic church.

00:23:32.400 We're soaked in the blood of martyrs.

00:23:33.960 We make those people our saints.

00:23:36.180 But my church didn't close.

00:23:37.640 And these lockdowns affected me directly.

00:23:39.400 I could not bury my mother in the way that she wanted in the church that we grew up in.

00:23:47.340 Because my priest was more scared of Dina Hinshaw than he was of God.

00:23:54.520 And that really bothered me.

00:23:56.640 And I know I come across people like that all the time, where they say, you know,

00:24:01.660 I wish my church was like Church in the Vine or like Grace Life.

00:24:07.640 And I think maybe, maybe part of what we do here is to tell those other pastors and priests, you could have done this.

00:24:21.980 You should have done this.

00:24:23.820 You will probably have an opportunity to make this right the next time this comes.

00:24:28.760 Yeah, I think a lot of the, I mean, I definitely don't feel for your priest whatsoever for him making you do that.

00:24:38.540 But I do feel for some of the churches who had really mixed congregations of when they say, yeah, you can come on in, wear a mask.

00:24:47.380 I don't care.

00:24:48.140 Here's a hand sanitizer.

00:24:49.860 Maybe let's make you sit one apart from each other. 0.91

00:24:53.580 Or, and then I understand that even people will get mad at them for doing that.

00:24:57.020 It's like, why are you following this BS?

00:24:58.740 Or, and then the other side is like, this isn't enough.

00:25:01.140 And it's all inside the same church.

00:25:03.720 But that was with everything.

00:25:05.260 That was with every workplace.

00:25:06.580 That was in, even in government institutions and stuff like that.

00:25:10.380 It's schools.

00:25:11.200 Like, I still definitely feel for the people who are kind of stuck in between trying to please both sides.

00:25:15.660 Because you could not please everybody.

00:25:17.520 But I do think that when it just got further than just capacity issues and further than just the mask, then I don't feel for the people who didn't stand up for that when they had the chance.

00:25:30.600 You had the chance.

00:25:32.920 Well, and you're not to please the people.

00:25:34.360 You are to please God as a pastor.

00:25:36.260 Kian, I think, and I'm going to pat myself on the back here, you and me, we're doing something a little different than we normally do with our documentaries as far as fundraising goals go.

00:25:49.000 We are incurring some substantial costs, production-wise, equipment-wise, travel-wise.

00:25:54.760 Our travel schedule is grueling, by the way, because you and I are both doing our regular jobs at the company, which are already a lot greater than full-time.

00:26:07.020 And then we're making this documentary in the background.

00:26:09.320 It's such a religious documentary.

00:26:10.980 It really is a schedule from hell.

00:26:12.860 Oh, it is.

00:26:13.440 It definitely is.

00:26:15.740 And a lot of it is like, fly the whole day.

00:26:20.260 Spend a couple hours on the ground.

00:26:21.600 Turn, burn, come back, because we both have other jobs to do.

00:26:25.640 But, again, this is an important story to tell, and we're so grateful for the opportunity to be able to tell it.

00:26:30.920 But we're doing something a little bit different, where we're allowing the people who support our work to become invested in the work.

00:26:38.440 Why don't you tell us why we decided to do it that way?

00:26:41.760 Yeah, well, I think it's because of the reason or the topic, the theme of the documentary.

00:26:47.440 It's really close to people's hearts.

00:26:48.980 And I know, at least for me, when there's a big cause, I want to be a part of it.

00:26:55.800 I want to be able to do something or anything that I can.

00:27:00.920 So if I could give $50 or $100 and have my name on something, I would do it.

00:27:08.160 And I feel like that is something that I know our people, our rebels, would really like.

00:27:14.160 So it gives people a chance to be in the credits, to help fund the movie, and to have your name on it forever.

00:27:21.920 To really be a part of something that I believe will be historic.

00:27:26.920 I do, too.

00:27:27.960 And you get cool t-shirts, you get other cool stuff that you can just kind of wear around.

00:27:32.020 And I think that part is fun, too.

00:27:33.920 Yeah, there's a lot of exclusive perks, depending on how much people donate, because we want, I mean, it's as much their documentary as it is ours.

00:27:43.980 In fact, it is more theirs than it is ours, because we couldn't do them without them.

00:27:48.040 And so we want to give people, you know, we want to say thank you.

00:27:51.120 Thank you.

00:28:21.120 I'm excited, too.

00:28:22.580 And for the hardcore people out there, I think another exciting thing is, like, the bonus content.

00:28:28.920 Yeah.

00:28:29.280 I know for a documentary, it's a pain in my butt, like, editing through hours of footage.

00:28:33.960 Yeah, I'm sorry.

00:28:34.980 But no, no, no.

00:28:35.960 No, it's just that it's cutting down really long interviews is, like, the worst part of it.

00:28:41.220 But the cool part about it is that I'm saving them.

00:28:43.740 So when I do make those edits, and basically I'm just, like, cutting out your ums and buts and stuff and cutting out, let's say, Archer Pavelowski's ums and buts, I'm saving those copies and we can put up, like, full interviews.

00:28:57.460 So when people only get 15 minutes of it in the final cut, those those who donated and who are part of the project can also go and watch the full interviews or or longer extended interviews, at least.

00:29:10.260 Um, I think that part is really cool.

00:29:12.980 Yeah, me too.

00:29:13.880 Me too.

00:29:14.380 Because, you know, people, but for time, you know, you have to edit down these two, two and a half hour really in depth conversations about the motivations for why these pastors did what they did and the impact on the congregation.

00:29:31.500 I, I pity you having to carve that down and carve, you know, because it's all good.

00:29:39.100 It's all gold.

00:29:40.440 Um, and so, yeah, I'm, I'm really grateful that we have the opportunity to, you know, offer that to our supporters as well.

00:29:48.040 Kian, this is a very busy day for both of us because we have to leave to travel in like a day and a half again.

00:29:54.740 So we're trying to do a whole week's worth of work in a day.

00:29:58.460 Why don't you tell us where people can go to support the work that you and I are doing to tell the story of the persecution of Christians here in Canada?

00:30:07.800 Savethechristians.com.

00:30:09.100 Very special URL for very special people for a very special project.

00:30:13.160 And you can see all the perks there and select your level of involvement in the work that we do at Revel News, but all of it is vital and all of it is necessary.

00:30:24.520 And, um, you know, there's no, there's no national film board backing us on this.

00:30:29.260 That's for sure.

00:30:30.540 Um, Kian, thanks so much.

00:30:32.020 Um, I guess I'll, uh, I'll see you in about 36 hours at the airport.

00:30:36.440 Sounds good.

00:30:37.100 Thanks for having me on.

00:30:38.220 Thanks.

00:30:45.740 Well, friends, we've come to the portion of the show where we invite your viewer feedback.

00:30:49.180 Like you see on like the mainstream media, we actually care about what you think about the work that we do here at Rebel News.

00:30:55.020 And I know I say it every single week, but it is true. 0.99

00:30:58.200 Without you, there is no Rebel News.

00:31:00.160 So it, it behooves me to care what you think.

00:31:05.240 Um, so if you want to drop me a line, um, send me some viewer feedback on any of the work that we do here at Rebel News, but in particular the show.

00:31:12.360 Um, my email address is Sheila at Rebel News dot com.

00:31:16.840 If you want to talk about the show, it's gun show letters in the subject line.

00:31:20.340 That way I know how to find it because, uh, well, I get, I get a lot of emails every single day.

00:31:26.700 So if you wouldn't mind helping me get through them by putting a easy to search subject line, I'd really appreciate that.

00:31:33.920 Now, today's letter comes from Bruce.

00:31:36.300 Bruce, he is a regular viewer of the show, he and his cat, and he lives sort of just north of me in a Radway, Alberta, beautiful downtown Radway, Alberta.

00:31:47.120 And I pointed out every time I read a letter from Bruce that they really have an excellent, uh, military surplus store in Radway.

00:31:54.820 It's worth the drive.

00:31:56.240 Bruce writes on a show from a couple of weeks ago.

00:31:59.700 It was my interview with Tony Bernardo from the Canadian Shooting Sports Association about Justin Trudeau's success of gun bans and what the firearms community can do to fight back.

00:32:13.280 Bruce writes,

00:32:14.120 Hi, Sheila.

00:32:14.820 I enjoyed Tony Bernardo's interview.

00:32:16.420 It's too bad, though, that I can't be a member of the Canadian Shooting Sports Association.

00:32:21.060 I tried joining online, but the site asked me what guns I have.

00:32:24.120 Apart from an air pistol, a dozen cat pistols, and a few water guns, I have no guns at all, you know?

00:32:31.440 I will talk to Tony.

00:32:32.800 There should be a supporter category of membership where you believe in gun rights, you believe in property rights, you want your membership dollars to go towards legal challenges.

00:32:46.240 Because you care about the rights of other people, not just your own.

00:32:48.720 And I wonder if there's some tier of membership that would allow you to throw your support behind such a wonderful organization as Tony's.

00:32:57.720 Anyways, let's keep going.

00:32:59.740 Bruce says,

00:33:00.500 I love your analogy of cars involved in killings of people leading to confiscations of similar vehicles.

00:33:07.460 A better analogy is a future ban of fossil fuel vehicles.

00:33:11.140 Imagine an electric tow truck pulling away your vehicle because it's now on the ban list.

00:33:15.420 I'm sure Trudeau will try this ban if he gets elected by the East again.

00:33:19.900 Also, notice my new pronouns.

00:33:22.900 In the to field, his pronouns are ho and hum.

00:33:26.520 Bruce Atchison in boring old Radway.

00:33:28.860 Not brought to you by Pfizer.

00:33:30.520 Well, Bruce, thanks for the kind letter, as always.

00:33:34.760 I know that you send me your viewer feedback.

00:33:36.980 Almost every single week, I really appreciate that.

00:33:39.340 And I should let you know I am working on a little bit of a story about Radway and the county that Radway's in.

00:33:47.780 So keep your eyeballs on that.

00:33:50.260 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:33:51.720 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:33:53.300 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:33:56.880 And as always, remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:34:00.860 I'll see you next week.

Rebel News Podcast - April 12, 2023

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Have you seen the trailer for our new documentary yet？

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