In this episode of The Gunn Show, host Sheila Gunn-Reed is joined by her best friend Lise Merle, a local broadcaster and author, to discuss the latest in the Mark Carney saga, including the announcement that he is running for the Liberal Party of Canada leadership.
00:00:00.000Global News is headed to Davos, Switzerland, to cover the World Economic Forum, where unelected elites gather annually in their exclusive conclave to decide what happens to the rest of us.
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00:00:41.920I brought three issues. My guest brought three issues, and we're discussing them together.
00:00:53.500I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:00:56.040Today, I thought I would try something a little bit different than my normal sit-down, long-form interview with an interesting newsmaker,
00:01:21.160the likes of which are so often overlooked or maligned by the mainstream media.
00:01:28.060I thought I would invite my guest to contribute three things that they wanted to talk about,
00:01:34.860and I would bring in my own three, and then we would have a hearty discussion on the topic together.
00:01:40.940And I thought, who better to do this with me than someone that I could talk to all day, forever?
00:01:49.840It's my friend, Lise Merle. She's the viral get-off-my-lawn mom from Saskatchewan.
00:01:56.260She's a local politician and a local broadcaster and author and my real-life best friend.
00:02:03.440So, joining me now in an interview we recorded earlier is my buddy, Lise Merle, from Regina.
00:02:12.200So, joining me now is a good friend of Rebel News and my actual best friend, Lise Merle.
00:02:17.800And we thought we would each bring three interesting, thought-provoking, angering stories to the table.
00:02:27.400And I haven't shared my thoughts with her about them, and she hasn't shared her thoughts with me about them.
00:02:33.040And we thought we would just put them up and react and drag the rest of you along with us.
00:02:39.340So, Lise, thanks for coming on the show, and Happy New Year, buddy.
00:02:43.700Well, Happy New Year to you, my darling Sheila Gunn-Reed, and Happy New Year, Rebel fam.
00:04:35.300He was basically the de facto prime minister without any of the accountability or ethics rules, for that matter.
00:04:43.880You know, he was Justin Trudeau's advisor on COVID, and then he was acting as the unelected finance minister, as the advisor to the prime minister.
00:05:55.080So the Canadian Cancer Society has stepped in it again after publicly critiquing Mel Gibson's comments on cancer treatments during Mel's recent chat on the Joel Rogan experience.
00:06:06.680Mel Gibson endorsed alternative therapies like ivermectin and sparked a debate with the Canadian Cancer Society labeling Mel Gibson's comments as dangerous, irresponsible, and cruel.
00:06:23.460But the backlash isn't just about science.
00:06:26.100Critics are quick to point out the society's deep ties to big pharma, with partnerships including AstraZeneca, Bayer, Pfizer, and Merck, just to name a few, suggesting more than a conflict of interest.
00:06:43.240Do you think that it's possible that the grief grifters over there at the Canadian Cancer Society are prioritizing their partnerships over actual research and hopeful treatment for cancer patients in Canada?
00:06:57.660Well, let's not forget that these are the same people, as you pointed out to me this morning, these are the same people who actively lobbied against nicotine pouches.
00:07:06.380However, again, as you pointed out, they are partners with the makers of nicotine gum.
00:07:14.940So if you dip it in your lip, that's bad, but if you chew it, that's good.
00:07:22.280And if you follow the science, by which I mean follow the money, only one of those manufacturers of smokeless nicotine products is a donor to the Canadian Cancer Society.
00:07:34.420And these are also the very same people that wanted to waste valuable resources dedicated to actual biological women fighting very real female cancers to the delusions of trans-identified people.
00:07:54.020I'm so happy you brought that up, Sheila, because if it weren't for you, the entire country wouldn't have known about the Canadian Cancer Society's rude thoughts about women.
00:08:05.340And they made a post, they made a post, I want to say it was about a year ago, it was about a year ago, telling the trans community that, you know, the Canadian Cancer Society understands that the trans community might be uncomfortable with words like service, cervix, and vagina.
00:08:26.080And they, the Canadian Cancer Society also knew that the trans community might be more comfortable with the terms front hole.
00:08:34.760So here they are renaming female anatomy to front hole, okay, to make the trans community feel better about their cancer screening, and dedicating, what was it, less than 80 words to cervical cancer screening on their website for women, for actual women.
00:08:54.080But dedicating 417 words to trans women for cancer screening.
00:09:00.080And these, just for the record, are men that don't have cervixes.
00:09:05.840So, rightfully, I think the Canadian Cancer Society and the grief grifters over there are getting their butts handed to them on the internet for not only ignoring a great part of our population that is deeply untrusting of their institution, but also all institutions that take this haughty, elitist view of things.
00:09:33.300You know, if you're not following by our playbook, well, then you're spreading misinformation and disinformation.
00:09:40.700All Mel Gibson said on the Joe Rogan podcast is that he had four friends who had stage 4 cancer, and now all of them, after taking ivermectin, do not.
00:10:18.100So, Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Meta, which includes Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, and Threads, amongst other online products, revealed that he's pulling the plug on the Biden-era fact-checkers of the past, choosing instead to pivot to an X-style system of community notes or user-generated fact-checking.
00:10:38.480And, yeah, he's easing COVID-era restrictions on hot-button topics like politics and gender to foster more open dialogue.
00:10:49.320So, does this move, does this move show that Mark Zuckerberg is, you know, advancing with the times in advance of a cultural shift, or is he only doing this because Trump is taking over the White House and it's an American company?
00:11:05.200I think that's exactly it, the latter.
00:11:09.680This is complete opportunistic self-preservation.
00:11:14.240Zuckerberg never pushed back against the Biden administration in the interest of free speech.
00:11:20.760He fancied himself to be the digital public square, but never actually acted like it.
00:11:26.120It should have been a place where people were able to engage in the free and liberal exchange of ideas.
00:11:30.300Of course, there are rules about online hate speech in both countries, and incitement of violence and promoting terrorism and all that stuff, and laws around revenge porn and sex trafficking and all that stuff.
00:12:18.060They closed down support groups for people that had vaccine injuries.
00:12:22.380They closed down support groups for people that were questioning vaccine and mask mandates and physical distancing.
00:12:29.000They shut down public discourse on the entire thing.
00:12:34.460At the time, I remember thinking, I just couldn't believe that it was happening, that we were watching censorship in action on all of those apps.
00:12:47.380It really did show what, I think, a perverse pleasure the technocrats took in tamping down the thoughts of the little people.
00:13:00.280And so what Zuckerberg is saying now, what he's saying now, is he understands how destructive that might have been.
00:13:07.020And he's actually saying, well, we didn't do it in a tiny vacuum.
00:13:12.300There was an immense amount of pressure put on us by the Biden government to police these topics.
00:13:19.200We're talking, you know, deleting the accounts of people sharing memes, of being satirical, of trying to make light of the situation.
00:13:28.440There was, there was sort of one, there was one way of thinking at the time, and it was the government's way.
00:13:36.780And this isn't just unique for the United States.
00:13:39.040This was also true for Canada and places all over the world.
00:13:43.400But the one thing that I thought that Zuckerberg said in that interview that was, that was so interesting,
00:13:47.920is that he couldn't believe that the, that the American government wasn't sticking up for companies that are headquartered in America.
00:13:57.260So here we have all of the major, the major tech companies, either in America or China, really, that's where they're, that's where the leaders are headquartered.
00:14:06.140And the American government was actively working against the American people at the time.
00:14:11.760So we shall see if he releases all of the documents like Elon did with the Twitter files.
00:14:17.440We'll see if he, we'll see if there's major, if you can say on Facebook, all trans women are men.
00:14:34.380I'm not as nonpartisan as you are on this issue.
00:14:38.900I think all it took was for a company as large as Meta to say no, no, but they never did.
00:14:49.560And if Meta said no, then Alphabet, so Google, YouTube, they would have had an ally to say no also.
00:14:57.860Now, I think there's some sort of, there's also the whole ideological resistance to allowing people to tell the truth that exists in some of these companies.
00:15:05.740So I think they're ideologically on the left.
00:15:09.220Oh yeah, because they're all headquartered in California, Sheila.
00:15:11.840And that's another, that's another really interesting part of the story is he's taking all of the fact checkers and everybody that was working in that part of the company and moving them to Texas.
00:15:55.760This one is quite interesting because Heather Maas, I'll show you here, she's the conservative member of the Legislative Assembly in Chilliwack North.
00:16:06.500So this is an elected conservative MLA from BC retweeting a Rebel News article, which is a wonderful turn of events in and of itself.
00:16:25.760But I thought I would talk to you about this because this is a wild story.
00:16:30.480And we only found out about this because YouTube, again, the Sinister Alphabet Company, they sent us a notice saying, you have to take this down because this is inappropriate for adults on YouTube.
00:16:46.360Now, if we go into the article from our friend, Dre Humphrey, and there's an accompanying video.
00:16:53.080But YouTube censored Rebel News for showing explicit materials found in Canadian schools.
00:16:57.220So if YouTube considers this material inappropriate for minors to view, why is it being shown in Canadian schools?
00:17:10.700It was from a book entitled Genderqueer.
00:17:15.620And it is shown to minors in Canadian schools.
00:17:19.500But according to YouTube, it's inappropriate for viewers under 18.
00:17:23.880And it's against their nudity and sexual content policy.
00:17:27.260So some place as permissive as YouTube thought that this stuff was inappropriate.
00:17:34.380And yet it is shown in British Columbia schools.
00:17:38.020OK, so the content specifically included cartoon porn-like images of a grown man performing a sexual act on a young boy and children engaged in sexual acts with each other.
00:17:50.860And it's made accessible to kids in an education system, as Drea writes, that refuses to yield to parents' concerns about this material.
00:17:59.660So right now, as it sits, British Columbian students are safer from this content if they're trolling the darkness of YouTube than they are in their own classrooms.
00:18:13.300And that's just par for the course for Canadian education, for the entire Canadian education sector.
00:18:19.640The books that are available in BC are also available in Alberta and Saskatchewan and Manitoba and in every single province across the nation of Canada.
00:18:31.020And when parents have real and absolutely valid complaints about these books and take their concerns to the principals or to their school trustees or to their school boards or to, in fact, the RCMP or to police,
00:18:49.640what they're told, what they're told is there's just a difference in what people consider appropriate for kids to see.
00:18:59.980And I maintain, and hundreds of thousands of Canadians agree with me, that it should be up to the parent to decide what is appropriate for their child to get a hold of.
00:19:11.860And if you have, if you even have a tiny fraction of the parents holding up a red card and saying, this is wholly inappropriate for my kids to be accessing in your facilities, take it out.
00:19:23.520And so what those parents are up against is a tsunami of pushback because then they come out with the, you're a bigot, you're a transphobe, you're a homophobe.
00:19:34.760This is part of an all-inclusive sexual education curriculum.
00:19:39.020And, you know, we have kids that are represented by these books.
00:19:43.700And are we surprised at all, Sheila, that sexual assaults are up in Canadian schools?
00:19:50.000Are we surprised at all when teachers and principals and administrators and school staff are charged with crimes against children when this is what's considered normal?
00:20:00.780It's, I'm so happy to see that Drea's work is being recognized, not only recognized, but shared by MLAs because she has been working, I mean, the work that she has done is just, is just incredible for the parents of Canada.
00:20:17.020But, but you're right, if parents, if adults on YouTube, even age verified adults on YouTube, shouldn't or can't see the contents of these books, why the hell are we making them available to children?
00:20:34.280The people that approve these books should be fired instantaneously from the school divisions that let them in.
00:21:00.680Yeah, teacher approved materials is, is a, is a problem across the nation of Canada.
00:21:05.320So we, we used to have, you know, back when you and I were a little back in the olden days, in the 1900s, there, the supplies of materials that teachers provided to students were all, were all sourced and vetted by the provincial governments because, because education is a provincial purview.
00:21:30.600We used to have textbooks, we used to have workbooks, we used to have, it wasn't a teacher free for all to find their, to find their materials and resources on the internet.
00:21:41.200And that's exactly what got us into this mess and reeling that back and, and making sure that there's a good vetting process in place is going to, is going to get this under control.
00:21:52.560But yeah, like age appropriate materials, that should be the absolute baseline for educators across, across the, the nation of Canada.
00:21:59.100Because all it takes, Sheila, is one pervert, okay, one pervert.
00:22:05.240At our school, it's the teacher librarian that provides all of these books to the kids.
00:23:15.120BlackBlocks does this great journalism on how the Digital Citizen Initiative by Karina Gould, who has now announced her intentions to run for the leadership of the Liberal Party,
00:23:25.900was weaponizing this $19 million fund that was under the guise of fact-checking and digital literacy to lie, malign, and label critics of the government as far-right Nazi-adjacent types.
00:23:42.620Real interesting coming from Karina Gould, who, you know, lovingly embraced an actual geriatric Nazi named Jaroslav Hanka,
00:23:49.900and then tried to erase the proof of it from the official Hansard record, but some of this money from the Digital Citizen Initiative was flowing to the Center for Media, Technology, and Democracy.
00:24:01.820And guess who was employed at the Center for Blabbity Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah, through the Digital Citizen Initiative?
00:24:11.780Well, wouldn't you know it, Rachel Gilmore, who made it her business to malign, lie, and label critics of the government.
00:24:24.060Remember her performance at the House of Commons Committee about foreign influence?
00:24:33.840I have big feelings and thoughts, and she also was especially vicious against the unvaccinated.
00:24:41.340I would actually have more patience with her nonsense and stupidity if it were sincere.
00:24:51.580But she just does this for money, which is particularly gross.
00:24:55.580So here we have another example of a federally funded propagandist creating a hostile environment for herself, because this is what she does.
00:25:07.520She says things that are so outrageous and offside, valid conservative concerns, that when she gets the absolutely predictable feedback that she gets, she cries victim.
00:25:31.160Look at all the rude things that people say to me.
00:25:34.200I love that she shuts down all of her comments, except for maybe one post every couple of days.
00:25:40.260That's because she's actually farming her own victimhood in those moments.
00:25:45.380So then she takes all of those rude comments, and she trots off to the Governor General's House and tells the government, both at committee and at the Governor General's House,
00:25:56.380I am such a victim, the amount of hate that I have to put up with for just doing my job.
00:26:04.320She is a paid government propagandist, a professional victim.
00:26:09.000And the only question that Rachel Gilmore should be able to ask from this point on is, would you like fries with that?
00:26:16.420The woman is a solution in search of a problem.
00:26:20.340So her solution is censor all the people who disagree with me and the government.
00:26:26.380And then so she says things to get the blowback so that she can present the blowback as proof of her solution.
00:26:34.980Yes, that it's happened, that it's happened.
00:26:37.240Not only that, she's a radical trans activist.
00:26:40.000Oh, she's, yeah, Faye Johnstone is like Timu, Rachel Gilmore.
00:26:48.740I was going to say, I was going to say Siamese twins, like conjoined twins that have been separated by the miracle of science, but I like yours better.
00:27:22.760And let's, let's not also forget Rachel Gilmore's platform of choice is also TikTok.
00:27:28.100So here's a person that is funded, funded by Canada's federal government to farm the rage that she then uses against conservatives in Canada, but on an app that's completely owned by China.
00:27:45.300Who, who is the dealer of misinformation and disinformation?
00:28:38.460And we're not talking small potatoes here either.
00:28:41.740The Center for Media Technology and Democracy at McGill received $5.5 million in federal funding.
00:28:50.180$5.5 million pays a hell of a lot of, you know, T&A clad online influencers to take to TikTok with their hot takes, causing a hell of a lot of blowback on conservatives.
00:29:05.340Yeah, that's a lot of, uh, that's a lot of influencers.
00:29:46.200Um, but Mark Carney went on The Daily Show, uh, whatever viewership that is, to speak to Americans instead of Canadians about his intentions to lead Canada.
00:41:38.660So, maybe Mrs. Carney would be just, maybe Mrs. Carney is just in it for the lavish accommodations that come with the Prime Ministership if her husband were to win.
00:41:49.380Can you imagine the upgrades to Harrington Lake that we would have to foot this time around with these two?
00:42:02.520Okay, so those are my three, your three.
00:42:05.000Hey, Lise, thanks for jumping in and having this conversation with me.
00:42:09.000I know that we will be seeing so, so much more of you over here on Rebel News.
00:42:15.220That's just a little hint towards the future.
00:42:18.540Lise, what are you up to next besides that?
00:42:21.660Besides our thing that we haven't said anything about to anybody quite yet?
00:42:26.120Well, today I'm going through several thousand pages of documents from Regina Public Schools that we got in a Freedom of Information Act request and filing a bunch more on several Saskatchewan government agencies.
00:42:47.520There is so much going on in Saskatchewan right now, Sheila, I can hardly even stand it.
00:42:51.560I wish I could say more, but I just need a little bit more time.
00:43:37.140Let me know what you think of the new studio, too.
00:43:38.740I'm still working on the lighting and the background, but I just thought I would do something that's a little bit more me than the normal digital green screen background.
00:43:48.100I wanted to do something that reflected who I am and where I'm from.
00:43:53.180I've had somebody actually email me and ask me what this book is here, and it's actually more than just one book.
00:44:01.340It's a series of books called Our Alberta Heritage, and it talks about the people, the progress, and the places.
00:44:10.420So it's about who and what we are, and it's quite old.
00:44:14.400I found it in some of my dad's old stuff.
00:44:19.860It was commissioned by Calgary Power, and it was published in May 1971.
00:44:28.940So those are, well, old, 50-some-odd years old.
00:44:37.580And, of course, there's the Ezra Levant bobblehead, Virgin Mary.
00:44:42.280And this is Rowdy Roddy Piper from They Live.
00:44:48.260He has the glasses that show him what the world is really about.
00:44:53.540Of course, over here, Handmade in Alberta.
00:47:59.780I guess Trudeau knows best on those things.
00:48:02.380Now, actual email I'll read right now is from a regular viewer of the show, Bruce Atchison, who writes on my Christmas show.
00:48:14.200There's a letters show where I basically just turn the show over to you.
00:48:17.140And I think I'm going to do the same thing next week because I am traveling to Davos to spoil the party a little bit of the World Economic Forum.
00:48:33.940I just want to show you what these people do in this cloistered conclave of globalist weirdos when no skeptical journalists actually show you what it's all about.
00:48:49.060I'm going to show you, like, where are they eating?
00:48:52.860I know that my colleagues that are also going with me, they will have things that they want to focus on.
00:49:00.440I want to do a little bit of the same style of journalism that I did when I went to the United Nations Climate Change Conferences back when they were held in countries that allowed journalistic freedom.
00:49:14.320So I didn't have to worry about getting arrested, even though I wasn't allowed inside the UN facility.
00:49:18.980So I just want to show you what these places actually look like, because it's one thing to talk about the World Economic Forum and these meetings.
00:49:33.460What does it look like, you know, when these people are telling you to drive an egg-shaped abomination of a car?
00:50:41.100The reason we do the letters, but particularly myself and David and Ezra is, well, not now,
00:50:49.640but David co-hosts the live stream with me.
00:50:53.320So we need to give you content for when the live stream would have been.
00:50:56.620We want to make sure that we are meeting our obligations to you.
00:50:59.300But I have a paywall show, and I want to make sure that the people are getting what they pay a subscription for.
00:51:05.640And that's a show from Sheila once a week.
00:51:07.600And so one of the best ways to do that is that doesn't actually become stale because the news changes is to just turn it over to your questions.
00:51:17.080Because your questions to me, they never really get stale.
00:51:20.520Alexa could also do her show twice in English and in French.
00:51:24.100I feel this would accomplish at least two things.
00:51:25.960First, it would give Rebel News extra content for the holiday period.
00:51:29.140Secondly, we will get to know these three rebels better.
00:51:35.160Remind me in November next year, if you wouldn't mind, Bruce, because I want to make sure that we give them the opportunity to do a little extra work before they go on their Christmas break.
00:51:47.580We're like one big family, and these letters shows help make the bond even stronger.
00:51:52.520So please suggest this to Ezra for next December.
00:51:55.200Yours with Delta the Cat, Bruce, in beautiful downtown Radway, Alberta.
00:51:59.560Bruce, thanks so much for always taking the time to share your thoughts with me.
00:52:04.400And I know you're one of the most long-term loyal viewers of my show.
00:52:08.620So I've always got time for you and your ideas, Bruce, as I do with so many of the people who support us now and over the years at Rebel News.
00:52:17.400Well, everybody, that's the show for today.