Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ How ditching Ottawa could make you $17K richer： The fiscal plan for Alberta independence

00:00:00.000 Keep our money, control our future, maybe even leave Canada.

00:00:03.560 Geoffrey Rath from the Alberta Prosperity Project joins me tonight to talk about sovereignty,

00:00:07.980 separation, and his bold plan to make it happen.

00:00:11.660 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:30.000 What if Alberta could afford to ditch Ottawa, slash your taxes, boost pensions, and still run a massive surplus?

00:00:37.560 That's exactly what a new draft fiscal plan from the Alberta Prosperity Project lays out.

00:00:42.860 The report shows that if Alberta kept the $68 to $75 billion it sends to Ottawa every year,

00:00:48.340 the province could fully fund every federal service from defence to pensions to border control

00:00:53.520 and still pocket a surplus of $48 billion a year.

00:00:57.680 How big is that surplus?

00:00:58.720 Big enough to eliminate the GST and provincial income taxes.

00:01:02.720 In fact, the plan models a 29% to 46% personal tax cut,

00:01:08.560 dropping the average Albertans' total tax bill by up to $17,560 per year.

00:01:17.120 This isn't just short-term fiscal fantasy.

00:01:19.800 If Alberta went all in on growth, doubling oil and gas output and cutting red tape,

00:01:24.660 the province's total economic activity could balloon by $8.2 trillion over 20 years,

00:01:31.080 and the Heritage Savings Trust Fund could swell to $1.4 trillion,

00:01:36.060 generating more than $50 billion more per year in returns alone.

00:01:42.000 Joining me now to break down the numbers, the risks, and the opportunity of a sovereign Alberta

00:01:45.620 is constitutional lawyer and APP co-founder, Jeffrey Rath, in an interview we recorded yesterday morning.

00:01:53.380 Take a listen.

00:01:53.900 So joining me now is constitutional lawyer and co-founder of the Alberta Prosperity Project,

00:02:06.180 Jeffrey Rath.

00:02:07.220 Jeff, thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:02:09.340 Big news from our friends at the APP over the last week or so.

00:02:14.700 But before I get into what you're up to these days, give us a little bit about who and what you are.

00:02:22.360 If people are just meeting you for the first time, I know you've had some great accomplishments

00:02:26.160 over the last little bit.

00:02:27.820 So tell us about those.

00:02:29.760 Yeah, sure.

00:02:30.440 I'm a constitutional lawyer, which is just a fancy way for saying that I sue governments for a living.

00:02:36.000 So I spent 34 years suing the government of Canada, suing the government of Alberta,

00:02:40.660 government of Manitoba, government of the Northwest Territories, government of British Columbia,

00:02:46.580 you know, on behalf of citizens in those jurisdictions, Ontario, you know,

00:02:52.260 citizens in those jurisdictions whose rights have been violated by those governments.

00:02:57.700 So, you know, it was unsurprising then, given my skill set, that I would be involved during the pandemic,

00:03:04.000 suing the Alberta government and the communists in Jason Kenney's cabinet,

00:03:08.340 who thought it was appropriate to tell Albertans how many friends they were allowed to have

00:03:13.140 to shut down our high schools while leaving the bars, casinos and strip clubs open.

00:03:18.500 So our 18-year-old kids couldn't go to school, but they could go to the bars, casinos and strip clubs.

00:03:23.640 I guess this is Jason Kenney's idea of higher education or grooming.

00:03:27.220 I'm not sure which, but, you know, something along those lines.

00:03:30.640 But anyway, that's kind of who I am and what I am.

00:03:32.940 I succeeded, actually, in having every single order issued by Dana Hinshaw and Jason Kenney

00:03:38.480 through the currency of the pandemic in Alberta declared ultra-vires or illegal.

00:03:45.980 So now we're undertaking two massive class-action lawsuits on the basis of all the illegal orders

00:03:51.660 that were issued by the Kenney government on behalf of all the Alberta business owners

00:03:55.700 that were illegally shut down during COVID,

00:03:57.480 and then on behalf of all of the poor people that were horribly vaccine-injured

00:04:01.900 because all choices were taken away from them with regard to vaccines,

00:04:06.240 Dana Hinshaw, Theresa Tam, Bonnie Henry and others,

00:04:09.720 you know, under Committee of Public Safety, basically,

00:04:12.760 getting together weekly to figure out how they were going to lie to Canadians,

00:04:16.020 you know, about this, quote-unquote,

00:04:18.320 how safe and effective the vaccines were,

00:04:20.920 you know, while hiding and lying about any real scientific evidence

00:04:24.960 that demonstrated that the vaccines were neither safe or effective

00:04:28.580 and should not have been rolled out in the way they were,

00:04:31.500 especially to pregnant women and children,

00:04:34.420 you know, et cetera, et cetera.

00:04:36.420 So anyway, that's kind of, you know, in a nutshell,

00:04:39.300 who I am, what I've been doing for the last 34 years of my life.

00:04:44.180 And now I'm involved with the Alberta Prosperity Project,

00:04:47.580 and we've just finalized something we're very, very proud of.

00:04:50.360 This is a fully-costed fiscal plan for an independent Alberta

00:04:55.600 called the Value of Freedom, right?

00:04:59.360 This is, I guess, I think the one I'm holding up is an earlier draft.

00:05:02.700 This is probably a Mark 2.0 version, now that I look at the title.

00:05:06.520 But it's still the Value of Freedom.

00:05:09.120 And what the fully-costed plan demonstrates

00:05:11.420 on the basis of public-source documents,

00:05:16.540 Statistics Canada, Fraser Institute, Government of Alberta,

00:05:19.540 Government of Canada, et cetera, is that after independence,

00:05:23.420 after fully costing and paying for an Alberta military

00:05:27.540 at 3% of GDP with $1.5 billion in startup costs,

00:05:31.700 Department of External Affairs, Department of Immigration,

00:05:35.060 and most importantly, deportation,

00:05:38.240 a Department of, you know, Customs and Border Patrol,

00:05:41.780 you know, all those types of things, airports, navigation,

00:05:45.180 tripling the spend on Indigenous people in the province of Alberta

00:05:48.660 through constitutionalized resource revenue sharing

00:05:51.180 to lift the Indigenous people of Alberta out of the poverty

00:05:55.060 that Canada has left them in for 150 years.

00:05:58.060 After paying for all of that, the fiscal plan that we published

00:06:01.900 demonstrates that we're going to have between approximately

00:06:05.000 a $30 to $50 billion a year annual fiscal capacity surplus,

00:06:10.660 which could be applied to, you know, 30% to 50% tax cuts in year one.

00:06:16.240 So we're very excited about it.

00:06:17.880 The other thing that I wanted to note for people to go, 0.83

00:06:20.840 oh, this is all pie in the sky and these numbers are ridiculous

00:06:23.960 and things can't be that good. 0.94

00:06:26.220 This is too good to be true, you know, all that nonsense.

00:06:29.120 The funniest thing about this document, when we published it,

00:06:32.760 we published it on the basis of last year's Alberta budget numbers,

00:06:37.000 which showed a $6.5 billion deficit.

00:06:40.820 So this year, they posted an $8.5 billion surplus.

00:06:45.020 So if we'd waited a week before publishing the document,

00:06:48.440 the fiscal capacity surplus of Alberta would have actually been $15 billion

00:06:53.840 higher than is indicated in the plan that we published.

00:06:58.160 So obviously, you know, we're very excited about this document.

00:07:01.840 I'm urging everybody that's interested in Alberta freedom

00:07:05.500 and the value of freedom to go to albertaprosperity.project.com

00:07:11.380 and download the document.

00:07:12.760 We have a copy of it available free online.

00:07:16.960 And then we're actually also selling hard copies of these documents

00:07:21.960 at APP events to help defray the printing costs

00:07:25.000 and for fundraising purposes.

00:07:27.780 And copies will be available for sale at APP events

00:07:32.040 around the province very soon.

00:07:34.000 We just have to, we sold out the last time.

00:07:36.680 I took several boxes of them into a 600-person APP event in Airdrie

00:07:43.620 and we sold out in about five minutes.

00:07:46.280 So anyway, we're very excited about this.

00:07:49.820 Everybody that reads it is very excited about this.

00:07:52.160 I gave a presentation on this to a United Conservative Party of Alberta town hall

00:07:58.800 called The Courage to Listen.

00:08:01.340 And the president of the party was there,

00:08:03.200 the chief financial officer of the party was there,

00:08:05.960 and several MLAs were there, you know,

00:08:08.860 constituency association presidents,

00:08:10.960 members of the party had packed this hall out in Calgary.

00:08:14.840 And one of the things that I said was that after reading this document

00:08:19.760 and understanding how much better off Alberta is going to be after independence,

00:08:26.220 I declared on the basis of the standard of a fiduciary at Canadian law,

00:08:31.220 which is that of a reasonably prudent person of business managing their own affairs,

00:08:35.400 that's the test of Canadian law,

00:08:37.080 that any elected MLA or cabinet minister or premier that does not embrace this plan

00:08:46.220 and start pursuing Alberta independence on the basis of an almost immediate

00:08:51.880 $30 to $50 billion a year fiscal capacity surplus

00:08:55.940 is violating their fiduciary obligations to the Alberta voters.

00:09:00.280 And I want all of them to listen to that,

00:09:02.120 and I want Daniel Smith to internalize the fact

00:09:04.420 that the day for all of the Team Canada pom-pom cheering stuff is over,

00:09:09.920 and that unless she embraces Alberta independence

00:09:12.980 on the basis of a fully-costed fiscal plan

00:09:18.700 for a sovereign and independent Alberta,

00:09:21.020 that she's violating her fiduciary obligations to the voters that elected her.

00:09:25.740 You know, it's funny to see the people on the other side say,

00:09:30.320 well, you could never do this, you haven't thought of everything,

00:09:33.520 but I feel like that's APP's role in all of this,

00:09:37.940 is to actually think of everything and then think of the answers.

00:09:41.640 You know, Corey Morgan has been great on this issue too,

00:09:45.140 where, you know, he says,

00:09:47.320 for people who misunderstand,

00:09:49.960 Indigenous people don't have a veto

00:09:51.440 over whether or not this province can stay or go.

00:09:54.840 They have a vote, just like the rest of us,

00:09:57.400 and we will need to think about what to do with Indigenous reserves.

00:10:01.940 And APP has said, we'll increase your funding threefold.

00:10:06.680 Now tell us why you should stay in Canada,

00:10:09.120 which doesn't provide you clean drinking water.

00:10:11.960 Yeah, well, and that's my message for the Chiefs of Alberta,

00:10:14.780 is I don't understand,

00:10:16.320 other than, you know,

00:10:17.640 all of the lawyers and consultants around them.

00:10:19.860 And believe me, I mean,

00:10:20.540 I still work for First Nations,

00:10:22.600 Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba,

00:10:24.620 Northwest Territories, et cetera,

00:10:26.100 and First Nations people.

00:10:27.520 I mean, I understand

00:10:29.020 who some of these consultants or lawyers are

00:10:32.100 in and around them that are horrified by this plan.

00:10:34.900 And by and large,

00:10:35.720 these lawyers are all left-wing,

00:10:37.560 NDP-adjacent or NDP-affiliated lawyers,

00:10:41.200 you know, like Orlo, Kelly,

00:10:42.700 and who's another one?

00:10:46.340 Anyway, it doesn't matter.

00:10:47.760 I don't need to start naming them all.

00:10:48.980 But, I mean, these lawyers,

00:10:51.340 you know, like some of them were involved

00:10:53.280 in actually bringing applications

00:10:55.200 on behalf of the Alberta unions

00:10:56.800 to re-mask our children, right?

00:10:59.640 If you can imagine that,

00:11:00.800 when Jason Kenney said,

00:11:02.020 okay, we're done with all of this foolishness, 0.83

00:11:04.040 pandemic's over,

00:11:04.960 everybody's free to go, whatever.

00:11:07.160 Some of these lawyers

00:11:08.400 that are representing Indigenous communities

00:11:10.100 and screaming and yelling 0.92

00:11:11.800 about how horrible Alberta independence will be,

00:11:14.820 literally were bringing applications in court

00:11:17.180 to re-mask our children

00:11:18.920 right?

00:11:20.140 Yeah.

00:11:20.400 So, you know,

00:11:21.000 this is the type of people

00:11:22.340 that we're talking about

00:11:23.540 that are giving advice to the chiefs

00:11:25.560 about how horrible independence

00:11:26.860 is going to be.

00:11:27.960 So, of course,

00:11:29.000 you know,

00:11:29.220 my question for the chiefs is,

00:11:30.900 what part of,

00:11:31.820 you know,

00:11:32.660 continuing to send

00:11:33.680 $15 billion a year

00:11:35.460 to Quebec

00:11:35.960 as opposed to keeping

00:11:37.580 that money in Alberta

00:11:38.700 to help lift your people

00:11:40.300 out of poverty

00:11:40.920 is such a horrible thing.

00:11:42.520 I mean,

00:11:42.760 we're literally talking about

00:11:43.960 constitutionalized resource

00:11:45.320 revenue sharing,

00:11:46.260 which is something

00:11:47.260 that I know

00:11:48.220 that the chiefs

00:11:49.280 and councils of Alberta

00:11:50.520 have been demanding

00:11:52.520 for years.

00:11:53.800 That can be fully costed,

00:11:55.540 fully constitutionalized,

00:11:56.980 built into a plan

00:11:58.220 for a,

00:11:58.860 you know,

00:11:59.120 for a fiscal,

00:11:59.880 for a free Alberta

00:12:01.520 where communities,

00:12:02.920 you know,

00:12:03.440 are,

00:12:03.840 take part

00:12:04.600 in the wealth

00:12:05.160 of this province,

00:12:05.800 where they are literally

00:12:06.980 being provided

00:12:08.680 a share

00:12:09.380 of the wealth

00:12:09.980 that comes from their lands

00:12:11.220 on a going forward basis.

00:12:13.100 I mean,

00:12:13.280 I'm looking forward

00:12:14.200 to having a debate

00:12:15.040 with Mr. Nenshi.

00:12:16.060 It's like,

00:12:16.540 Mr. Nenshi,

00:12:17.240 why are you so against

00:12:18.220 Alberta independence?

00:12:19.360 Do you hate

00:12:19.940 Indigenous people? 0.85

00:12:20.920 Are you a racist?

00:12:22.540 You know,

00:12:22.760 I mean,

00:12:23.060 seriously,

00:12:23.900 that's what it comes down to.

00:12:25.400 I mean,

00:12:25.660 the people that oppose

00:12:26.600 Alberta independence

00:12:27.500 and the fiscal capacity

00:12:29.120 that this creates,

00:12:30.800 you know,

00:12:31.540 as far as I'm concerned, 0.99

00:12:32.540 must hate Indigenous people 1.00

00:12:33.880 in Alberta 0.99

00:12:34.420 because they don't want

00:12:36.060 them to succeed

00:12:36.700 and they don't want them,

00:12:37.840 they don't want them

00:12:38.660 to be financially independent.

00:12:40.560 Yeah,

00:12:40.960 they're the same people.

00:12:41.460 It's a really interesting

00:12:43.840 dichotomy

00:12:44.420 if you think about it.

00:12:45.580 For sure.

00:12:46.020 They'd rather give

00:12:46.580 that money to Quebec.

00:12:47.720 They want $15 billion

00:12:48.820 a year to go to Quebec

00:12:49.840 and they don't want

00:12:50.900 any of that money

00:12:51.500 coming back to Alberta

00:12:52.440 for Alberta's Indigenous people.

00:12:53.980 What does that tell you

00:12:54.840 about them?

00:12:55.740 Right.

00:12:56.100 And these are the exact

00:12:56.880 same people

00:12:57.440 who will agree

00:12:58.360 with the statements

00:12:59.220 of our prior Prime Minister

00:13:00.740 who accused Canada

00:13:02.720 of being some sort

00:13:03.960 of genocidal state,

00:13:05.820 now still insisting

00:13:07.300 that our Indigenous people

00:13:09.020 stay within the framework

00:13:10.420 of the Laurentian

00:13:11.920 genocidal state.

00:13:13.440 It's incongruous

00:13:15.600 in five.

00:13:16.440 Oh,

00:13:16.680 it's completely

00:13:18.300 incongruous.

00:13:19.080 I mean,

00:13:19.200 I've been fighting

00:13:19.900 the government

00:13:20.400 of Canada

00:13:20.940 on behalf

00:13:21.880 of Indigenous people

00:13:22.800 my entire career

00:13:23.740 as a lawyer.

00:13:24.420 I mean,

00:13:24.660 I've won decisions

00:13:26.420 in the Supreme Court

00:13:27.320 of Canada,

00:13:28.300 you know,

00:13:28.520 including the

00:13:29.280 Micah Sucre decision,

00:13:30.420 which was one

00:13:30.860 of the most

00:13:32.020 far-reaching

00:13:33.540 treaty rights decisions

00:13:34.700 in the history

00:13:35.300 of Canada.

00:13:35.760 In fact,

00:13:36.520 Nigel Banks,

00:13:37.340 the law professor

00:13:38.060 of the University

00:13:38.800 of Calgary,

00:13:39.780 has described

00:13:40.360 the Micah Sucre case

00:13:41.220 that I won 9-0

00:13:42.260 as lead counsel

00:13:43.120 at the Supreme Court

00:13:43.820 of Canada

00:13:44.300 as being one

00:13:45.280 of the most important

00:13:46.500 treaty and aboriginal 1.00

00:13:47.260 rights cases

00:13:48.000 since the St. Catherine's

00:13:49.980 Millings decision

00:13:50.800 in the 19th century.

00:13:52.640 You know,

00:13:52.920 so I didn't wake up

00:13:53.880 one morning

00:13:54.360 and go,

00:13:54.780 oh,

00:13:54.960 wow,

00:13:55.280 I'm going to,

00:13:55.680 you know,

00:13:55.840 all of a sudden

00:13:56.420 decide that I'm going

00:13:57.940 to undo my life's work.

00:14:00.340 Right?

00:14:00.960 The reason

00:14:01.560 that I am doing this

00:14:02.620 is that I firmly believe

00:14:04.060 that an independent Alberta

00:14:05.400 that recognizes

00:14:06.760 the sovereignty

00:14:07.560 and independence

00:14:09.060 of Alberta's

00:14:09.800 indigenous nations

00:14:10.700 and getting them

00:14:11.440 out from underneath

00:14:12.560 the paternalism

00:14:14.060 of the entire,

00:14:15.200 you know,

00:14:15.400 the Indian Act,

00:14:16.440 you know,

00:14:16.880 Indian Affairs structure.

00:14:18.400 They can change its name,

00:14:19.660 but they haven't changed

00:14:20.360 its function.

00:14:21.860 You know,

00:14:22.100 I mean,

00:14:22.380 basically,

00:14:22.880 the federal government

00:14:23.620 exists to,

00:14:25.220 A,

00:14:25.500 you know,

00:14:25.720 limit the number

00:14:26.400 of First Nations people

00:14:27.340 in this country

00:14:27.900 to control

00:14:28.540 the Indian Register,

00:14:30.120 which is a form

00:14:31.180 of legislative genocide,

00:14:32.920 and B,

00:14:33.600 you know,

00:14:34.360 basically wants

00:14:35.540 to manage them 0.91

00:14:36.520 to death

00:14:37.080 by not fulfilling

00:14:38.660 all of the promises

00:14:39.780 that they made

00:14:40.580 in the treaties

00:14:41.500 as treaty promises.

00:14:43.120 So,

00:14:43.880 you know,

00:14:44.220 I don't understand

00:14:45.100 why there should be

00:14:45.820 any great love

00:14:46.680 between the indigenous 0.99

00:14:47.580 people of Alberta

00:14:48.480 and the federal government

00:14:49.900 who's been screwing

00:14:51.020 them over 0.92

00:14:51.540 and over and over

00:14:53.120 and over again,

00:14:54.420 you know,

00:14:54.700 for over a century.

00:14:56.720 Yeah.

00:14:57.360 So,

00:14:57.800 I mean,

00:14:57.980 that's probably all

00:14:59.240 we need to say

00:14:59.740 on that subject

00:15:00.320 this morning,

00:15:00.960 but there's a lot

00:15:01.560 of other things

00:15:02.060 to talk about,

00:15:02.780 but I just,

00:15:03.280 I'm glad that you gave

00:15:04.200 me the opportunity

00:15:04.820 to talk about that.

00:15:06.340 For sure.

00:15:06.920 It's such a huge issue

00:15:08.160 and it's the one thing

00:15:09.480 that the other side

00:15:10.220 loves to hammer on

00:15:11.640 is indigenous people,

00:15:12.880 indigenous people.

00:15:13.620 And,

00:15:14.000 you know,

00:15:14.080 when I speak to my friend

00:15:14.840 Robbie Picard

00:15:15.660 from Oil Sand Strong

00:15:17.220 who does so much work

00:15:18.540 with indigenous oil

00:15:20.880 and gas,

00:15:22.120 the $500 billion

00:15:24.460 worth of blocked

00:15:26.440 and canceled projects,

00:15:27.900 many of them,

00:15:28.560 and many of them

00:15:29.400 are right

00:15:30.180 in indigenous communities

00:15:31.380 where indigenous people

00:15:33.340 would have employment

00:15:34.640 in their own community

00:15:36.340 and those are being blocked

00:15:38.580 by the paternalist gatekeepers

00:15:41.120 to use a Paliyev word.

00:15:42.960 Well,

00:15:43.260 or by terrorists

00:15:45.000 or by terrorists

00:15:46.160 funded by,

00:15:47.120 you know,

00:15:47.620 left-wing organizations

00:15:48.840 of the United States

00:15:49.960 or wherever.

00:15:50.700 I mean,

00:15:50.880 let's look at,

00:15:51.340 you know,

00:15:52.480 that,

00:15:52.740 you know,

00:15:52.960 that attack 0.71

00:15:53.480 on that pipeline camp

00:15:54.800 right in and around

00:15:55.960 the time

00:15:56.360 of the Freedom Convoy.

00:15:57.340 I mean,

00:15:57.880 they declared

00:15:58.360 the Emergencies Act,

00:15:59.900 you know,

00:16:00.160 over a bunch

00:16:00.940 of peaceful protesters,

00:16:02.620 but,

00:16:02.820 you know,

00:16:02.980 everybody needs to know

00:16:04.020 JTF-2

00:16:05.060 was in part established

00:16:06.720 to provide,

00:16:07.960 you know,

00:16:08.200 that Joint Task Force 2

00:16:09.580 or a counterterrorism unit

00:16:11.140 was established

00:16:12.200 to provide

00:16:12.920 rapid response

00:16:14.540 to acts

00:16:15.540 of industrial sabotage

00:16:17.300 against national projects.

00:16:18.900 That pipeline

00:16:19.580 was a national project.

00:16:21.100 You think Trudeau

00:16:21.660 deployed JTF-2

00:16:23.340 to track down

00:16:24.100 the 80 or so people

00:16:25.360 that were involved

00:16:26.440 in destroying

00:16:27.000 that pipeline cap?

00:16:28.140 Of course not.

00:16:29.340 He's more interested

00:16:30.160 in trampling

00:16:30.740 little old ladies, 1.00

00:16:31.740 you know,

00:16:31.900 little old indigenous ladies 0.99

00:16:33.120 with horses in the streets

00:16:34.300 because they dared

00:16:35.480 to come to Ottawa

00:16:36.340 to embarrass him 1.00

00:16:37.420 over his foolish policies. 0.99

00:16:39.820 Yeah. 0.99

00:16:40.500 You know,

00:16:40.720 and again,

00:16:41.480 I think that's,

00:16:42.140 you know,

00:16:42.300 when you talk about

00:16:42.960 Alberta independence,

00:16:44.340 I mean,

00:16:44.580 that's what's fueling this

00:16:45.620 for a lot of us,

00:16:46.620 right?

00:16:46.880 I mean,

00:16:47.440 we,

00:16:47.700 you know,

00:16:47.840 everybody says,

00:16:48.400 oh,

00:16:48.520 we have to be nostalgic

00:16:49.500 for Canada.

00:16:50.380 Don't you love Canada?

00:16:51.560 Oh,

00:16:51.860 Canada,

00:16:52.460 you know,

00:16:52.780 blah,

00:16:53.040 blah,

00:16:53.260 blah.

00:16:53.420 It's like Canada

00:16:54.780 ceased being Canada

00:16:55.940 the day that Trudeau

00:16:56.900 declared war on us

00:16:58.200 by invoking the

00:16:59.400 Emergencies Act,

00:17:00.760 you know,

00:17:01.240 simply because he

00:17:01.980 didn't want to hear

00:17:02.580 the voices of people

00:17:03.580 that disagreed with him.

00:17:04.760 After discussing

00:17:06.580 with Cabinet

00:17:08.140 and Caucus,

00:17:09.800 after consultation

00:17:10.900 with Premiers

00:17:12.460 from all provinces

00:17:13.800 and territories,

00:17:15.200 after speaking

00:17:16.140 with opposition leaders,

00:17:18.640 the federal government

00:17:20.000 has invoked

00:17:22.220 the Emergencies Act

00:17:23.720 to supplement

00:17:24.960 provincial

00:17:25.780 and territorial

00:17:26.680 capacity

00:17:27.400 to address

00:17:28.660 the blockades

00:17:29.500 and occupations.

00:17:31.280 Right?

00:17:31.740 So,

00:17:32.320 you know,

00:17:32.620 there's nothing for me

00:17:33.500 to be nostalgic

00:17:34.400 about Canada for.

00:17:36.060 And,

00:17:36.400 you know,

00:17:36.840 as far as I'm concerned,

00:17:38.340 the only way forward

00:17:39.440 and the only way

00:17:40.300 to save Canada

00:17:41.240 and the only way

00:17:42.800 to actually reopen

00:17:43.940 the Canadian Constitution,

00:17:45.420 and keep in mind,

00:17:46.020 I've been a constitutional lawyer

00:17:47.100 for 34 years,

00:17:48.620 you know,

00:17:48.860 is effectively

00:17:50.060 to pull out

00:17:51.180 one of the Jenga blocks,

00:17:52.680 you know,

00:17:52.980 that is,

00:17:53.480 you know,

00:17:53.700 the Jenga Tower of Canada,

00:17:55.520 in this case Alberta,

00:17:57.060 to reopen

00:17:57.720 the Canadian Constitution.

00:17:59.140 We'll be doing

00:17:59.560 the rest of the country

00:18:00.360 a huge favor

00:18:01.440 by taking Alberta

00:18:02.780 out of Canada.

00:18:03.600 There's no doubt about it.

00:18:04.780 Because then they're

00:18:05.340 going to have to,

00:18:05.940 you know,

00:18:06.140 they're going to have to,

00:18:06.880 you know,

00:18:07.140 they're going to have to look

00:18:07.820 at the whole Constitution again.

00:18:09.800 The other thing, too,

00:18:10.640 that some of your viewers

00:18:11.560 may not know,

00:18:12.880 on May 27th,

00:18:14.260 coincidentally,

00:18:14.700 it was my birthday,

00:18:16.740 Quebec gave the rest 0.96

00:18:18.500 of the country

00:18:19.000 a huge gift.

00:18:20.420 And that was

00:18:21.040 that Quebec

00:18:21.440 actually took itself

00:18:22.700 out of the Constitution

00:18:23.920 of Canada.

00:18:24.920 I don't know

00:18:25.260 whether you followed

00:18:25.860 this or not,

00:18:26.460 but the Legislative Assembly

00:18:27.760 of Quebec

00:18:28.360 unilaterally,

00:18:30.300 unanimously

00:18:31.180 declared

00:18:32.400 that it had

00:18:33.380 abolished

00:18:34.260 all ties

00:18:35.080 with the British monarchy.

00:18:37.000 Right?

00:18:37.440 And they actually

00:18:38.300 hand-delivered

00:18:39.120 this resolution

00:18:39.820 to King Charles

00:18:42.240 when he was in town

00:18:43.560 giving Carney's

00:18:44.620 little theatrical

00:18:45.620 throne speech

00:18:47.320 in Ottawa.

00:18:48.260 So what that means

00:18:49.180 is Quebec

00:18:49.660 is no longer

00:18:50.440 part of the

00:18:50.920 Constitutional Order

00:18:51.880 of Canada.

00:18:52.840 They have abolished

00:18:53.940 their ties

00:18:54.400 with the monarchy.

00:18:55.080 It fundamentally

00:18:56.380 takes them

00:18:58.440 outside of

00:18:59.340 the British

00:19:00.940 North America Act

00:19:01.900 or the Constitution

00:19:02.500 Act 1867

00:19:04.000 as it's now called,

00:19:05.480 which says that

00:19:06.140 Canada is to have 0.97

00:19:06.980 a government

00:19:07.380 similar in principle

00:19:08.680 to the government

00:19:09.680 of the United Kingdom,

00:19:11.120 which includes

00:19:11.700 the monarchy.

00:19:13.100 Right?

00:19:13.460 So Quebec's 0.92

00:19:14.140 no longer part

00:19:14.880 of the Constitutional

00:19:15.900 Order of Canada.

00:19:17.200 So why are we

00:19:18.000 continuing to send

00:19:18.860 them transfer payments?

00:19:19.920 Why are we

00:19:20.440 continuing to worry

00:19:21.360 about what their

00:19:21.920 views are

00:19:22.620 within the amending

00:19:23.640 formula to the

00:19:24.460 Constitution?

00:19:25.340 They're not part

00:19:26.140 of the Constitution

00:19:26.840 anymore.

00:19:27.980 So, you know,

00:19:28.720 again, you know,

00:19:29.720 this is for down

00:19:30.620 the road,

00:19:31.100 and once Alberta

00:19:31.680 votes itself out

00:19:32.620 of Canada,

00:19:33.640 you know,

00:19:34.300 we're really not

00:19:34.960 voting ourselves

00:19:35.600 out of a country

00:19:37.040 that even exists

00:19:38.060 anymore,

00:19:39.060 which is something

00:19:39.780 that, you know,

00:19:40.580 something else

00:19:41.260 that I'd like

00:19:41.680 people to

00:19:42.220 internalize.

00:19:44.680 Yeah, I mean,

00:19:45.840 moreover to your

00:19:46.820 point about maybe

00:19:47.540 saving Canada from

00:19:48.540 itself by forcing

00:19:49.860 them to do

00:19:50.420 something,

00:19:51.160 maybe Quebec

00:19:51.780 could actually

00:19:52.700 develop their

00:19:53.440 Utica shale

00:19:54.240 gas resources

00:19:55.280 instead of just

00:19:56.900 relying on

00:19:57.580 transfer payments

00:19:58.540 from Alberta.

00:19:59.700 Maybe they'll do

00:20:00.420 something with the

00:20:01.220 resources that they

00:20:02.180 have when they

00:20:02.780 don't have to

00:20:03.440 siphon money

00:20:05.040 out of Alberta.

00:20:07.040 Now, I want to

00:20:07.700 ask you about

00:20:09.040 the referendum

00:20:10.520 question,

00:20:11.700 because you guys

00:20:12.600 were first out of

00:20:13.840 the gate with the

00:20:14.760 referendum question,

00:20:15.680 and now the

00:20:17.540 rules for

00:20:18.660 referendum have

00:20:20.100 been changed.

00:20:21.620 Tell us about

00:20:22.300 your question.

00:20:23.180 Tell us what

00:20:23.600 comes next.

00:20:24.820 Okay, well,

00:20:25.520 our question

00:20:26.060 quite simply

00:20:26.780 is, do you

00:20:29.560 agree that

00:20:30.600 Alberta shall

00:20:31.440 become a

00:20:32.120 sovereign country

00:20:33.000 and cease to

00:20:33.820 be a province

00:20:34.400 of Canada,

00:20:35.200 right?

00:20:35.780 Couldn't be

00:20:36.320 any clearer

00:20:37.460 than that.

00:20:38.140 The reason the

00:20:38.740 question is

00:20:39.240 framed that way

00:20:40.100 is that it's

00:20:41.000 a constitutional

00:20:41.820 question that

00:20:43.040 complies strictly

00:20:44.580 with section

00:20:45.740 one sub three

00:20:47.140 of the Clarity

00:20:47.960 Act, okay,

00:20:49.140 which says that

00:20:50.160 in order for a

00:20:51.060 referendum question

00:20:52.200 on secession

00:20:52.880 to be clear,

00:20:54.380 it has to

00:20:54.960 both state

00:20:55.760 that the

00:20:56.380 province wishes

00:20:57.020 to cease

00:20:57.500 being a

00:20:57.880 province of

00:20:58.500 Canada and

00:20:59.480 wishes to

00:20:59.900 become an

00:21:00.300 independent

00:21:00.680 country.

00:21:01.120 So our

00:21:01.840 province,

00:21:02.540 our question

00:21:04.320 covers off

00:21:05.400 both of those

00:21:06.120 points as

00:21:06.880 required by the

00:21:07.840 Clarity Act,

00:21:08.600 and we'll be

00:21:10.040 submitting that

00:21:10.580 question in

00:21:11.100 fairly short

00:21:11.660 order to

00:21:12.440 our member

00:21:12.820 of parliament

00:21:13.340 to be tabled

00:21:14.360 in parliament

00:21:17.140 in Ottawa.

00:21:18.080 So our

00:21:19.820 question is a

00:21:20.480 constitutional

00:21:20.940 question,

00:21:21.560 complies with

00:21:22.440 the requirements

00:21:23.840 of the Clarity

00:21:24.380 Act.

00:21:25.080 As some

00:21:25.780 people may

00:21:26.380 know,

00:21:27.040 there's kind

00:21:28.620 of a weird

00:21:29.600 political actor

00:21:31.420 running around

00:21:32.020 Alberta by the

00:21:32.780 name of

00:21:33.580 Thomas Lukasak,

00:21:35.620 Lukasik,

00:21:36.240 something like

00:21:36.720 that,

00:21:37.040 whatever.

00:21:37.440 Thomas Lukasak

00:21:38.500 just won't

00:21:39.160 go away. 0.82

00:21:39.620 There we go.

00:21:40.180 So it's not

00:21:41.400 Lukasak,

00:21:42.120 that's how I

00:21:43.500 thought it was.

00:21:43.840 Do you know

00:21:44.160 what?

00:21:44.760 Say his name

00:21:45.500 wrong,

00:21:45.940 I don't care.

00:21:46.820 I'm sure it

00:21:47.280 irritates him.

00:21:49.100 But anyway,

00:21:50.200 Little Tommy,

00:21:50.920 let's just call

00:21:51.340 him Little Tommy,

00:21:52.080 has filed a

00:21:53.440 phony petition

00:21:54.180 that says,

00:21:56.340 do you agree

00:21:56.960 that Alberta

00:21:57.640 should remain

00:21:58.260 in Canada?

00:21:59.380 And of course,

00:22:00.240 you know,

00:22:00.500 I was laughing

00:22:01.020 with my good

00:22:01.480 friend Keith

00:22:01.900 Wilson recently

00:22:02.680 because Keith

00:22:03.640 said,

00:22:04.220 yeah,

00:22:04.460 I want to

00:22:05.040 submit a

00:22:05.480 referendum

00:22:05.860 question.

00:22:06.720 And he

00:22:07.000 says,

00:22:07.180 my question

00:22:07.720 is going

00:22:08.000 to be,

00:22:08.540 do you

00:22:08.800 agree that

00:22:09.420 Alberta should

00:22:10.000 still be

00:22:10.400 called Alberta?

00:22:12.260 Right?

00:22:12.700 It basically

00:22:13.380 has the same

00:22:14.020 legal effect

00:22:14.860 as Little

00:22:16.520 Tommy's

00:22:17.140 question.

00:22:18.580 And as

00:22:20.140 far as it

00:22:20.680 goes,

00:22:21.580 that's the

00:22:22.480 problem with

00:22:23.120 Little Tommy's

00:22:23.760 program,

00:22:24.280 right?

00:22:24.440 It's a phony

00:22:24.900 question that

00:22:26.360 basically seeks

00:22:27.620 to maintain

00:22:30.340 the status quo.

00:22:32.000 Obviously,

00:22:32.640 Elections

00:22:33.040 Alberta has

00:22:34.000 not recognized

00:22:34.880 it as a

00:22:35.340 constitutional

00:22:35.960 question.

00:22:36.660 My understanding

00:22:37.360 is that

00:22:38.180 they've

00:22:38.420 recognized it

00:22:39.160 as a

00:22:39.440 non-binding

00:22:40.340 policy

00:22:41.000 question,

00:22:42.080 right?

00:22:42.880 Right.

00:22:43.540 Which,

00:22:44.200 you know,

00:22:44.500 has little

00:22:45.220 or no

00:22:45.920 effect from

00:22:47.220 a legal

00:22:47.540 perspective.

00:22:48.620 And in

00:22:48.840 fact,

00:22:49.120 because it's

00:22:49.480 a non-binding

00:22:50.200 policy

00:22:50.720 question,

00:22:52.080 you know,

00:22:52.280 various legislative

00:22:53.160 committees in

00:22:53.860 the government

00:22:54.220 of Alberta

00:22:54.720 could actually

00:22:55.180 refuse to put

00:22:55.880 it on a

00:22:56.260 ballot because

00:22:56.840 it's completely

00:22:57.380 meaningless

00:22:58.000 in the broader

00:22:59.160 scheme of

00:22:59.900 things.

00:23:00.140 But what

00:23:00.700 I think

00:23:01.080 little Tommy

00:23:01.640 and his

00:23:01.940 little pals

00:23:02.480 that I

00:23:03.600 think they

00:23:03.880 call themselves

00:23:04.460 Forever

00:23:04.860 Canada,

00:23:05.880 so,

00:23:06.580 you know,

00:23:07.280 are trying

00:23:07.680 to do,

00:23:08.600 is their

00:23:09.120 interpretation

00:23:09.980 of the,

00:23:11.160 and I think

00:23:11.440 it's the

00:23:11.680 old act that

00:23:12.480 they were

00:23:12.680 looking at,

00:23:13.160 not the

00:23:13.440 new act,

00:23:13.840 but their

00:23:14.100 interpretation

00:23:14.560 is if they

00:23:15.640 bring a

00:23:16.120 fail,

00:23:16.560 a question

00:23:17.080 and they

00:23:17.460 fail on the

00:23:18.140 question to

00:23:18.640 get the

00:23:18.940 signatures that

00:23:19.640 they require,

00:23:20.760 they think

00:23:21.400 that that will

00:23:21.960 then prevent

00:23:22.640 any question

00:23:23.820 on that subject

00:23:24.620 from ever being

00:23:25.260 asked again for

00:23:26.020 the next five

00:23:26.600 years.

00:23:26.980 So that's

00:23:28.160 his whole

00:23:28.500 plan,

00:23:28.960 is to have

00:23:29.320 this phony

00:23:29.780 referendum

00:23:30.340 question,

00:23:31.240 they're going

00:23:31.500 to send

00:23:31.740 around phony

00:23:32.240 canvassers,

00:23:32.980 they're going

00:23:33.180 to make an

00:23:33.540 attempt to

00:23:34.020 get the

00:23:34.980 300,000

00:23:35.780 signatures they

00:23:37.440 require,

00:23:38.180 and then when

00:23:38.780 they fail,

00:23:39.780 they're going

00:23:40.120 to say that

00:23:40.580 a real

00:23:41.100 question on

00:23:42.280 whether or

00:23:43.340 not Alberta

00:23:43.860 should be an

00:23:44.860 independent

00:23:45.320 country and

00:23:46.040 cease to be

00:23:46.520 a province

00:23:47.020 of Canada

00:23:47.640 will not be

00:23:49.300 able to

00:23:49.640 proceed for

00:23:50.220 another five

00:23:50.780 years.

00:23:51.500 So it's just

00:23:51.960 a game that

00:23:52.600 they're playing, 0.94

00:23:53.100 it's a silly 0.97

00:23:53.660 game, it's a 0.98

00:23:54.580 distraction,

00:23:55.800 it's exactly

00:23:56.600 what you'd

00:23:57.100 expect from

00:23:57.860 little Tommy,

00:23:58.880 I mean he

00:23:59.460 doesn't like

00:23:59.960 being out of

00:24:00.340 the public

00:24:00.700 eye, you 0.60

00:24:01.500 know when

00:24:01.700 he's not

00:24:02.040 doing that

00:24:02.540 now apparently

00:24:03.120 he's very

00:24:03.600 busy trying to

00:24:04.260 bring Sharia 1.00

00:24:04.860 law to

00:24:05.360 Alberta, I

00:24:06.060 don't know

00:24:06.280 if you're

00:24:06.500 aware of

00:24:06.900 that, but

00:24:07.340 he's started

00:24:08.560 a company to

00:24:09.360 provide quote

00:24:10.000 unquote halal

00:24:10.840 mortgages and

00:24:12.060 has been

00:24:12.380 lobbying the

00:24:13.020 Alberta

00:24:13.300 government to

00:24:14.100 bring Sharia 1.00

00:24:16.080 law into

00:24:16.940 Alberta by

00:24:18.000 statute so

00:24:18.800 that they

00:24:19.120 can have

00:24:19.500 these so

00:24:20.220 called halal

00:24:20.900 mortgages

00:24:21.600 that comply

00:24:23.920 with Sharia 0.88

00:24:24.580 law.

00:24:25.360 I mean that's

00:24:25.720 what he does

00:24:26.160 in his spare

00:24:27.140 time, so who

00:24:27.780 knows, I

00:24:28.100 mean maybe

00:24:28.420 the reason

00:24:28.880 little Tommy

00:24:29.340 thinks that

00:24:30.040 you need to

00:24:33.160 keep Alberta

00:24:33.700 and Canada

00:24:34.300 is that they're

00:24:35.240 more likely to

00:24:36.080 be able to

00:24:36.680 invoke Sharia

00:24:37.480 law in

00:24:38.040 Alberta for

00:24:38.940 part of

00:24:39.380 Canada as

00:24:40.040 opposed to

00:24:40.540 not.

00:24:41.320 I don't know

00:24:42.020 what his

00:24:42.380 motivations are

00:24:43.320 but quite

00:24:44.260 frankly I think

00:24:45.800 it's pretty 0.87

00:24:46.160 silly. 0.94

00:24:46.740 I mean the 0.99

00:24:46.940 guy grew up

00:24:47.560 in a

00:24:47.800 communist

00:24:48.140 country,

00:24:49.060 comes to

00:24:49.520 Canada and

00:24:50.520 basically loves

00:24:51.820 the fact that

00:24:52.500 Canada has 0.52

00:24:52.960 become a

00:24:53.380 communist country

00:24:54.180 and he

00:24:54.720 wants to

00:24:55.060 make sure

00:24:55.440 that his

00:24:55.780 fellow

00:24:56.040 Albertans

00:24:56.720 continue to

00:24:57.480 live under

00:24:58.420 communist rule

00:24:59.440 in Alberta

00:25:00.020 just like he

00:25:01.260 grew up when

00:25:01.900 he was a

00:25:02.260 little boy.

00:25:03.220 The whole

00:25:03.940 thing quite

00:25:06.080 frankly is

00:25:06.940 disgusting and 0.99

00:25:10.240 we don't see

00:25:11.900 it as being a

00:25:12.420 real issue or

00:25:13.040 problem for us

00:25:13.760 going forward

00:25:14.340 other than it's

00:25:15.400 a nuisance and

00:25:16.120 it's generated

00:25:16.780 discussion in

00:25:20.400 and around

00:25:20.900 in and around

00:25:22.740 the issue.

00:25:23.640 I guess we

00:25:24.000 had a press

00:25:24.360 conference recently

00:25:25.080 and the

00:25:25.360 CBC reporter

00:25:26.160 that's all she

00:25:27.080 wanted to do

00:25:27.660 was aggressively

00:25:28.360 ask questions

00:25:29.160 about little

00:25:29.600 Tommy's petition

00:25:30.460 and of course

00:25:31.520 when we

00:25:32.520 pointed out

00:25:33.100 to her as

00:25:36.740 well that

00:25:38.200 the Elections

00:25:39.340 Alberta Act

00:25:40.120 the new act

00:25:40.840 specifically

00:25:41.440 contemplates

00:25:42.340 being able to

00:25:43.540 have more

00:25:44.620 than one

00:25:45.340 citizens

00:25:46.220 initiative

00:25:46.780 petition question

00:25:47.880 going at a

00:25:48.620 time and

00:25:49.560 pointed out

00:25:50.100 that our

00:25:50.360 question was

00:25:50.940 substantially

00:25:51.540 different than

00:25:52.300 little Tommy's

00:25:53.140 even though

00:25:54.040 he's tried to

00:25:55.060 make it so

00:25:55.640 that it's

00:25:55.980 ostensibly on

00:25:56.940 the same

00:25:57.360 subject when

00:25:58.080 it's not

00:25:58.780 our petition

00:26:00.840 is for Alberta

00:26:02.160 to become a

00:26:02.760 country.

00:26:03.980 So Romania 0.69

00:26:05.040 and Canada

00:26:05.640 has nothing

00:26:06.180 to do with

00:26:06.880 whether we

00:26:07.500 become a

00:26:07.900 country or

00:26:08.380 not.

00:26:09.540 So anyway

00:26:10.960 we're dealing

00:26:11.940 with it.

00:26:12.580 It's more of

00:26:13.540 an irritant

00:26:14.120 than anything

00:26:14.580 else.

00:26:16.020 Obviously

00:26:16.620 there's a lot

00:26:17.160 of people

00:26:17.940 who just wish

00:26:18.500 that

00:26:18.840 little Tommy

00:26:21.080 would move

00:26:21.460 back to

00:26:21.860 Poland or 0.89

00:26:22.360 some other

00:26:22.720 communist

00:26:23.100 country where

00:26:23.660 he feels

00:26:24.020 more comfortable

00:26:24.600 as opposed to

00:26:25.180 staying in

00:26:25.560 Alberta.

00:26:26.080 But that's

00:26:26.760 where we're

00:26:27.060 at.

00:26:27.940 Honestly I

00:26:28.480 hope Thomas

00:26:28.960 Lukasik never 1.00

00:26:29.600 shuts up

00:26:30.180 because he

00:26:31.880 is a reminder

00:26:32.620 of the old

00:26:34.080 progressive

00:26:34.580 conservatives

00:26:35.200 that drifted

00:26:36.500 so far left

00:26:37.280 that they

00:26:37.700 delivered us

00:26:38.400 to the NDP

00:26:39.200 for four years

00:26:40.220 and destroyed

00:26:41.260 a generation

00:26:41.960 of investment

00:26:42.720 in Alberta.

00:26:44.100 He was one

00:26:45.540 of the

00:26:45.740 architects

00:26:46.140 of that

00:26:47.080 and I'm

00:26:49.340 glad that

00:26:49.800 he's reminding

00:26:50.580 people to

00:26:51.320 think about

00:26:52.020 whether or

00:26:53.200 not under

00:26:54.700 the current

00:26:55.260 deal a

00:26:56.680 2025 Alberta

00:26:58.260 would actually

00:26:59.400 join Canadian

00:27:00.780 Confederation.

00:27:01.880 That's the flip

00:27:02.720 side of his

00:27:03.800 little nuisance

00:27:04.640 question and I

00:27:07.140 think it's just

00:27:07.900 going to blow up

00:27:08.500 in his face. 0.97

00:27:09.740 Well who in

00:27:10.920 their right

00:27:11.400 mind like if

00:27:12.200 Alberta was

00:27:13.380 completely

00:27:14.080 independent

00:27:14.780 we had the

00:27:16.160 lowest taxes

00:27:16.940 and lowest

00:27:17.580 regulatory burden

00:27:18.760 of any

00:27:19.200 jurisdiction in

00:27:20.240 North America

00:27:21.000 our economy

00:27:22.820 was thriving

00:27:23.560 everybody here

00:27:25.280 lived in a

00:27:26.700 world where we

00:27:27.200 didn't have to

00:27:27.680 pay any income

00:27:28.400 tax anymore

00:27:29.280 and along came

00:27:30.620 Canada and

00:27:31.180 said hey

00:27:31.620 we'd like you

00:27:32.440 to join our

00:27:32.980 country and

00:27:34.240 the conditions

00:27:34.960 are over half

00:27:35.920 of your income

00:27:36.540 is now going

00:27:37.080 to go towards

00:27:37.680 all kinds of

00:27:38.280 taxes that we

00:27:38.920 impose we're

00:27:40.040 going to

00:27:40.260 arbitrarily impose

00:27:41.340 regulations on

00:27:42.280 you whenever

00:27:42.680 we want

00:27:43.240 including shutting

00:27:44.200 down your

00:27:44.660 industry shutting

00:27:45.400 down your

00:27:45.800 businesses taking

00:27:47.000 away property

00:27:47.820 that you own

00:27:48.480 including your

00:27:49.120 firearms you

00:27:50.260 know taxing the

00:27:51.020 equity in your

00:27:51.700 houses you know

00:27:53.460 destroying your

00:27:54.180 children by 1.00

00:27:54.920 legalizing you

00:27:56.140 know drugs that

00:27:57.500 shouldn't be

00:27:57.940 legalized without

00:27:58.880 you know on

00:28:00.240 any planet etc

00:28:02.500 etc right

00:28:03.760 what you know

00:28:05.500 what would the

00:28:05.980 answer be it

00:28:06.680 would be no

00:28:07.140 would be hell

00:28:07.660 no like are 1.00

00:28:08.240 you silly just 1.00

00:28:08.940 run away like go 1.00

00:28:09.860 away we have

00:28:10.520 nothing to do

00:28:11.480 with you you're 1.00

00:28:11.980 stupid right 1.00

00:28:13.120 but I mean why 1.00

00:28:14.220 so why do

00:28:14.780 people want to

00:28:15.360 stay in this

00:28:15.900 country like

00:28:16.600 it's you know

00:28:17.340 quite frankly

00:28:18.040 you know the

00:28:18.880 upside and that's

00:28:19.920 the other thing

00:28:20.300 with little Tommy

00:28:21.020 is that you

00:28:21.900 know you notice

00:28:22.460 that he never

00:28:23.020 talks about the

00:28:23.840 benefits of

00:28:24.460 staying in Canada

00:28:25.440 right it's just

00:28:26.980 oh I'm loyal

00:28:28.340 I'm loyal well

00:28:29.240 you know what I

00:28:29.660 have a you know

00:28:30.240 standard poodle

00:28:31.000 and my standard

00:28:31.560 poodle is really

00:28:32.240 loyal too but I

00:28:33.060 don't want her

00:28:33.480 running the 0.94

00:28:33.800 freaking I don't 0.67

00:28:34.340 want my dog 0.92

00:28:34.740 running the

00:28:35.140 country you know

00:28:36.280 what's loyalty

00:28:36.960 you know like

00:28:37.660 that's so what

00:28:38.900 you know loyal to

00:28:40.040 what loyal to you

00:28:41.120 know people that

00:28:41.740 declare the war

00:28:42.360 measures act

00:28:43.060 against us loyal

00:28:44.080 to people that 0.78

00:28:44.840 foolishly think

00:28:45.720 that taxing us to 1.00

00:28:46.920 death is going to

00:28:47.540 change the weather

00:28:48.340 you know loyal to

00:28:49.780 people that you

00:28:50.780 know start phony 0.57

00:28:51.720 trade wars with

00:28:52.580 our largest trading

00:28:53.620 partner and then

00:28:54.780 when that doesn't

00:28:55.400 go well for them

00:28:56.140 we're going to

00:28:56.440 threaten to shut

00:28:57.120 down Alberta oil

00:28:58.220 you know like

00:28:59.220 etc etc like

00:29:00.460 what loyalty do we

00:29:02.460 owe you know

00:29:03.820 this entity called

00:29:06.080 Canada I mean

00:29:06.780 effectively become

00:29:07.820 Canada Stan you

00:29:09.700 know it's not the

00:29:10.340 country that it was

00:29:11.100 when we grew up or

00:29:12.120 when I grew up and

00:29:13.420 that's what we want

00:29:14.420 to take Alberta

00:29:15.060 back to we want to

00:29:15.960 take Alberta back to 1.00

00:29:17.020 those original

00:29:17.780 Canadian values you

00:29:19.500 know we want to live

00:29:20.160 in a country where we

00:29:21.000 have low taxes where

00:29:22.000 we have low regulations

00:29:23.280 where the government

00:29:24.860 stays the hell out of

00:29:26.200 your life you know

00:29:27.960 not every time you

00:29:28.780 turn around some

00:29:29.500 bureaucrat telling you

00:29:30.520 how to live when you

00:29:31.440 could leave your home

00:29:32.300 you know how much you

00:29:33.580 know you know how

00:29:34.800 much fuel you're allowed

00:29:35.980 to burn what kind of

00:29:36.780 car you can drive I

00:29:38.440 mean what kind of you

00:29:38.980 know like who wants

00:29:39.540 to live in that

00:29:40.060 country I don't want

00:29:40.780 to live in that

00:29:41.100 country you know I

00:29:43.040 do a lot of American

00:29:43.960 media on this topic

00:29:45.460 because well a lot

00:29:48.440 of the journalists

00:29:49.300 covering this are on

00:29:50.780 the other side giving

00:29:51.640 a lot of time to

00:29:52.360 Thomas Lukasik and

00:29:53.820 not to you know the

00:29:55.560 people who are are

00:29:56.580 serious thinkers on

00:29:57.740 this issue and they

00:29:59.220 always start by saying

00:30:00.400 Canada's Texas wants 0.72

00:30:02.120 to leave Canada and I

00:30:04.060 always have to stop and

00:30:05.160 correct them and because

00:30:07.340 I want to put it into

00:30:08.200 context Texas just on

00:30:10.940 the oil issue Texas

00:30:12.220 has about 20 billion

00:30:14.600 barrels of proven

00:30:16.400 reserves Canada or

00:30:18.240 sorry Alberta between

00:30:20.020 oil sands and

00:30:20.920 conventional we've got

00:30:21.940 340 billion barrels

00:30:25.280 of proven reserves and

00:30:27.120 about 1.6 trillion

00:30:28.580 barrels if we can ever

00:30:29.680 figure out how to get

00:30:30.540 the rest of it out of

00:30:31.440 the ground our natural

00:30:32.860 gas and that's not

00:30:34.940 even including carbon

00:30:35.920 and bitumen you know

00:30:37.560 which I understand

00:30:38.160 technology is being

00:30:39.600 developed to release

00:30:40.520 you'd almost triple our

00:30:41.640 proven oil reserves

00:30:42.580 once they can release

00:30:43.800 carbon and bitumen and

00:30:45.280 then let's not forget

00:30:46.080 fast and let's not and

00:30:48.380 let's not forget about

00:30:49.280 the motley field that

00:30:50.560 was you know has just

00:30:51.380 been reassessed right

00:30:53.340 at 400 trillion cubic feet

00:30:56.800 of natural gas I mean

00:30:58.540 hell we don't even have

00:30:59.340 to export natural gas we

00:31:01.080 can build a giant cogen

00:31:02.680 plant up near Grand

00:31:04.320 Prairie that could power

00:31:06.060 one of the largest AI and

00:31:08.760 data hubs in the world

00:31:10.820 for a thousand years or

00:31:12.780 more on the you know on

00:31:14.560 the amount of gas that's

00:31:15.920 that's in that's going to

00:31:17.680 be released from the

00:31:18.440 motley field so I mean

00:31:20.120 Alberta doesn't need 1.00

00:31:21.140 anybody you know to

00:31:23.220 to prosper and to go

00:31:24.540 forward you know we

00:31:26.320 just need to keep doing

00:31:27.600 our you know keep doing

00:31:28.420 what we're doing well

00:31:30.260 and then we have 800

00:31:31.300 years of clean burning

00:31:32.460 coal under our feet that

00:31:33.600 the feds won't let us

00:31:34.700 use so when you explain

00:31:37.500 that to Americans in that

00:31:39.280 context where you say

00:31:40.400 look we're so much

00:31:41.760 bigger we are so much

00:31:43.620 wealth here we're not

00:31:44.800 even taking into account

00:31:45.860 food and lumber and beef

00:31:47.340 and the coal we're not

00:31:49.380 allowed to use just on

00:31:50.440 the oil issue we are not

00:31:53.060 paid the respect we

00:31:54.200 deserve within

00:31:55.320 confederation you look at

00:31:56.700 this respect that is

00:31:57.920 paid to Texas within the

00:32:00.920 United States I mean

00:32:02.380 nothing's bigger than

00:32:04.900 Texas right but yet in

00:32:06.420 Canada Albertans were

00:32:08.000 talked down and we're so

00:32:10.340 much bigger when it comes

00:32:11.360 to well landmass we're

00:32:13.300 almost as big as Texas

00:32:14.620 Texas is I think it's

00:32:16.640 too very comparable to

00:32:18.500 yeah 200 and no yeah

00:32:20.540 to 265,000 square miles

00:32:23.720 Alberta is like 100 or

00:32:25.480 255,000 square miles so I

00:32:27.800 think we're only off by

00:32:28.680 about about 10,000 square

00:32:30.340 miles we're twice the size

00:32:31.420 of California if we're not

00:32:33.740 advocating joining the US

00:32:34.960 but if we were a US state

00:32:36.580 we would be the third

00:32:37.880 largest state after Alaska

00:32:39.400 and Texas and only by a

00:32:40.600 small margin behind Texas

00:32:42.000 and like you say our oil

00:32:43.500 reserves dwarf the oil

00:32:44.980 reserves of Texas and our

00:32:46.500 gas reserves dwarf the

00:32:48.140 gas reserves of the entire

00:32:50.840 continental United States

00:32:52.260 just in Alberta so you

00:32:54.920 know we're obviously you

00:32:56.140 know you know obviously a

00:32:58.420 very viable independent

00:32:59.700 country as you know and I

00:33:01.140 think a lot of other

00:33:01.800 people know you know

00:33:03.300 members of our group have

00:33:04.320 gone down to Washington

00:33:05.300 and we've met with

00:33:06.400 American officials in the

00:33:08.040 Trump administration at a

00:33:09.200 very high level they're

00:33:11.100 excited about Alberta

00:33:12.160 independence they support

00:33:13.360 Alberta independence and

00:33:15.140 you know of course you

00:33:16.420 know both from a national

00:33:17.380 security perspective and a

00:33:18.800 national you know energy

00:33:20.700 security perspective I mean

00:33:22.540 the Americans it's not in 0.99

00:33:24.040 their national interest to

00:33:25.340 have a communist party of

00:33:26.680 China adjacent government in

00:33:28.380 Ottawa arbitrarily capping

00:33:31.000 Alberta oil and gas

00:33:32.420 production but you know

00:33:33.480 through you know either

00:33:34.660 directly or through emissions 0.58

00:33:36.720 caps which are ridiculous and

00:33:38.920 then you know I don't know if 0.95

00:33:39.600 you saw it the other day

00:33:40.440 Daniel Smith signed some 1.00

00:33:42.120 stupid MOU with the Doug 1.00

00:33:43.880 Ford and it's like you know 1.00

00:33:45.860 oh yeah we're gonna you

00:33:46.820 know Doug Ford supports

00:33:47.720 pipelines Doug Ford would

00:33:48.960 like more Alberta oil coming

00:33:50.180 to Ontario refineries

00:33:51.200 Ontario refineries why the

00:33:53.520 hell aren't we building

00:33:54.400 Alberta refineries why are

00:33:56.420 we why are we shipping oil by

00:33:58.300 pipeline to you know to

00:34:00.260 Ontario to benefit the

00:34:01.640 Ontario economy you know we

00:34:03.340 need to be you know harnessing

00:34:04.860 the wealth of Alberta and you

00:34:07.120 know and building refineries in

00:34:09.420 Alberta instead of subsidizing

00:34:11.640 battery plants bug plant you

00:34:14.140 know battery plants and bug

00:34:15.500 plants in Ontario you know

00:34:17.040 paying 40 billion dollars for

00:34:18.920 Trudeau's little electric

00:34:20.020 Cheechy twain that he wanted to

00:34:22.000 run between Montreal and

00:34:23.480 Toronto or hydrogen plants in

00:34:25.960 Newfoundland like why are we as

00:34:27.900 Alberta taxpayers subsidizing

00:34:30.060 those projects when we should be

00:34:32.180 doubling or tripling our

00:34:33.420 refinery capacity in this

00:34:35.440 province through private public

00:34:37.800 partnerships so that we don't

00:34:39.720 have to ship oil by pipeline we

00:34:41.480 can ship finished products like

00:34:42.820 diesel and gasoline you know out

00:34:44.860 of Alberta you know that's what

00:34:46.480 that's what Alberta needs to 0.97

00:34:47.680 focus on

00:34:48.400 you know I think somebody might

00:34:51.780 have showed Doug Ford where line

00:34:54.240 five and line nine go because I

00:34:57.320 remember at the beginning of the

00:34:58.860 trade dispute with the Americans

00:35:02.720 Doug Ford was like we're gonna

00:35:04.060 turn off oil to the United States

00:35:06.280 we gotta really fight them we gotta 0.91

00:35:07.440 really screw them it's like we 0.99

00:35:08.820 will go to the full extent 0.90

00:35:10.420 depending on how far this goes we

00:35:12.900 will go to the extent of cutting

00:35:14.780 off their energy going down to

00:35:16.700 Michigan going down to New York

00:35:18.060 State and over to Wisconsin I don't

00:35:20.400 want this to happen but my number

00:35:22.960 one job is to protect Ontario

00:35:24.900 Ontarians and Canadians as a as a

00:35:28.460 whole since we're the largest

00:35:29.520 province first of all it's our oil

00:35:32.480 will sell it why apparently because

00:35:35.440 the East needs all of our money but

00:35:37.860 he didn't even think that turning

00:35:40.200 off oil to the United States meant

00:35:41.960 turning it off through line nine and

00:35:44.440 five which flow through the United

00:35:47.760 States and back up it oh I know it's

00:35:49.640 just ridiculous I've been making now he's in

00:35:52.040 favor of pipelines so much fun of them

00:35:54.360 ever since right and what I always is

00:35:55.960 there's little you know there you know

00:35:57.740 there you know there's little Doug Ford

00:35:59.880 jumping up and down and getting red in

00:36:01.520 the face we're gonna shut off American 1.00

00:36:03.300 oil then well hey Doug like line five

00:36:05.960 line nine you're shutting off

00:36:07.260 Alberta oil but yeah yeah yeah so it's

00:36:09.740 like Doug Ford was literally

00:36:10.820 advocating what Ralph Klein was

00:36:12.380 talking about years ago which is

00:36:13.760 letting the Eastern Bastards freeze in

00:36:15.360 the dark yeah and Doug Ford except he

00:36:17.300 didn't know he didn't know he was the 0.96

00:36:19.500 Eastern Bastard he didn't Doug Ford

00:36:21.520 didn't realize he was the guy no and 1.00

00:36:24.000 even that idiot Stéphane Gibault didn't 0.98

00:36:26.820 know that there were there were no East 1.00

00:36:28.840 to West pipelines across Canada

00:36:30.480 supplying Alberta oil directly to

00:36:32.640 Ontario and Quebec he didn't know it

00:36:34.140 went through the states either so you 1.00

00:36:36.020 look pretty foolish and then did you 1.00

00:36:37.700 notice after you know after a little 0.99

00:36:39.380 Dougie Ford you know jumped up and

00:36:41.200 down he's gonna shut off Alberta oil

00:36:42.480 but when he's told he can't do that he

00:36:43.840 goes okay we're gonna shut off

00:36:45.360 Saskatchewan potash their crops will be

00:36:47.740 withering in the fields American crops

00:36:49.620 will be withering in the fields at no

00:36:51.380 point did he say hey I'm gonna teach

00:36:53.660 the Americans a lesson on the 0.61

00:36:55.200 integration of the U.S. automobile

00:36:57.460 industry I'm gonna shut down our parts

00:37:00.160 plants for two weeks and bring the

00:37:02.280 entire all vehicle production in North

00:37:05.580 America to a shuttering halt you know

00:37:07.740 never once did Doug Ford say anything

00:37:10.620 that would threaten the interests of

00:37:11.880 Ontarians but that's that's the whole 1.00

00:37:13.780 problem with Confederation you know the

00:37:15.800 entire country is run you know by the

00:37:18.300 East for the benefit of the East you

00:37:20.440 know at the you know to the detriment of

00:37:22.100 everybody in you know Manitoba Alberta

00:37:24.080 Saskatchewan and British Columbia they

00:37:26.020 treat us like we're you know a

00:37:27.260 colonized people and we are colonies

00:37:29.800 that are just meant to send money to

00:37:31.860 them while they tell us what to do

00:37:33.880 that's been the relationship since the

00:37:35.880 start of Confederation you know the

00:37:37.620 Maritimes right Senate seats

00:37:39.360 Nova Scotia 10 Senate seats New

00:37:43.060 Brunswick 10 Senate seats PEI four

00:37:45.600 Senate seats Newfoundland six Senate

00:37:48.100 seats so you take all of the Maritimes

00:37:50.280 combined they have half of the

00:37:52.460 population of Alberta but they have 30

00:37:55.080 Senate seats so five times the Senate

00:37:57.700 seats of Alberta who only has six

00:37:59.800 Senate seats think you know think

00:38:01.640 about that right Supreme Court of

00:38:03.320 Canada Ontario has three Quebec has

00:38:05.760 three Maritimes has one the whole West

00:38:08.160 BC Alberta Saskatchewan and Manitoba have

00:38:11.180 two seats on the Supreme Court so is it

00:38:13.680 any wonder when we go to the Supreme

00:38:15.400 Court on a division of powers issue we

00:38:17.600 get kicked in the teeth right this entire 0.59

00:38:20.480 country is run on behalf of Central 0.95

00:38:23.300 Canada for their benefit and our

00:38:25.540 detriment and you know people really

00:38:28.000 need to internalize the value of

00:38:29.960 freedom and understand how wealthy and

00:38:32.580 how much better off we are going to be

00:38:34.600 when we don't have to pay any more

00:38:36.160 federal income tax we have no more you

00:38:38.460 know federal regulations imposed on us

00:38:40.820 at whim you know by some prime

00:38:43.460 minister who wakes up in the middle of

00:38:45.000 the night you know dreaming about you

00:38:47.060 know how scared he is of firearms and

00:38:48.860 he's going to take everybody's guns 1.00

00:38:50.100 away or you know whatever the stupid 1.00

00:38:52.040 idea is that comes out of Ottawa next 1.00

00:38:54.040 right you know it's just time for

00:38:56.140 everybody to internalize the fact that

00:38:57.880 there is nothing that Daniel Smith can

00:39:00.440 do by memorandum of understanding or

00:39:02.660 agreement or that Mark Carney can

00:39:04.720 promise Alberta that is more valuable

00:39:07.260 to Albertans than just getting the hell

00:39:09.700 out of Canada and no longer being

00:39:11.640 subject to federal regulation or federal

00:39:13.540 taxation you know one fact that you said

00:39:17.340 there really sort of jarred me and it's

00:39:19.960 the Senate seats for PEI to put that

00:39:22.800 into context PEI has the population of

00:39:25.660 roughly Sherwood Park and Red Deer

00:39:27.440 combined no no no I think I think I just

00:39:30.460 don't don't have Sherwood Park I think

00:39:31.840 they have the population of Red Deer so

00:39:33.640 it's like the equivalent of Red Deer having

00:39:35.240 four Senate seats well I have just as of

00:39:39.300 April 1st 2025 the population of Prince

00:39:41.540 Edward Island is 180,000 I think Sherwood Park

00:39:45.640 is at a 80,000 plus the county and then

00:39:49.840 Red Deer is at a hundred thousand so

00:39:51.920 I just was googling it out of the corner of my mind

00:39:57.760 PEI's population has jumped in the last

00:40:00.460 year or two because last time I looked at

00:40:02.600 PEI there were less than 150,000 people but

00:40:05.540 they still have four Senate seats right yeah

00:40:08.500 they have four seats and they're this

00:40:10.500 mid-sized Alberta cities and you can't

00:40:13.500 count Sherwood Park as a city but and they

00:40:16.100 get four Senate seats which should just

00:40:19.240 outrage people about the unfairness of

00:40:21.880 Confederation now Jeff I could talk to

00:40:23.680 you and complain about Confederation all

00:40:25.480 day long but I know you have another

00:40:27.060 interview and I also have another video to

00:40:30.680 get to tell people how they can learn more

00:40:33.260 about the work the APP is doing because not

00:40:36.200 only are you publishing these documents but

00:40:40.100 you're also holding town hall information

00:40:42.400 sessions that are sold out all over the

00:40:44.300 place yeah sure go to albertaprosperityproject.com

00:40:48.940 I'm going to be appearing or I'll be speaking

00:40:51.820 in Spruce Grove on the 10th and Fort

00:40:56.520 Saskatchewan on the 11th it's all up on the

00:40:58.660 website albertaprosperity.com and there is

00:41:02.420 a copy of the value of freedom there for

00:41:05.720 everybody to download at no cost to

00:41:08.720 yourselves and please read it because it

00:41:11.000 shows that there is a very very strong and

00:41:14.560 beautiful future for all of us outside of

00:41:16.540 Canada and and just hear for me that the

00:41:19.220 number of the numbers are extremely

00:41:21.040 conservative and on the basis of Alberta's

00:41:24.080 last budget our fiscal capacity surplus

00:41:26.880 numbers are low by 15 billion dollars so I'd

00:41:30.320 like everybody to internalize that and thank

00:41:32.420 you very much for having me on Sheila it's

00:41:34.700 always such a pleasure to talk to you and

00:41:36.120 thank you very much

00:41:36.900 Jeff thanks so much for thinking about

00:41:40.440 these things because you know a lot of

00:41:43.160 people are dissatisfied with the state of

00:41:46.060 confederation but you're actually providing

00:41:48.880 some answers and at least then however the

00:41:52.640 vote falls down at least then people are well

00:41:55.380 informed when they make their decision and

00:41:57.180 and I think that is an invaluable service

00:42:00.240 that you folks at the Alberta Prosperity

00:42:01.920 Project are providing Jeff I will have you

00:42:04.880 back on again very soon because I think

00:42:07.180 that there's going to be a lot of news

00:42:09.500 going forward hey no and the other thing

00:42:12.960 is in three weeks we're going to be

00:42:14.340 releasing an interim constitution for the

00:42:19.140 province of Alberta so people can see that

00:42:21.580 in an independent Alberta we're actually

00:42:23.500 going to have rights and not privileges that

00:42:25.920 can be taken away by government bureaucrats

00:42:27.920 at whim so anyway we're very excited about

00:42:30.300 that as well we're working on that that'll

00:42:31.980 be the next rollout and I'll look forward

00:42:33.860 to talking to you about that as well so

00:42:35.620 thank you perfect put it on the calendar

00:42:37.880 Jeff we'll talk then thank you you bet

00:42:39.900 thanks Sheila all right over now

00:42:41.360 well we've come to the portion of the show

00:42:50.280 wherein I invite your viewer feedback because

00:42:52.920 without you not only is there no gun show but

00:42:56.920 there's no rebel news and I I say that now

00:42:59.800 more than ever because for the last few weeks I've

00:43:02.840 been relying on your emails and your letters and

00:43:05.680 questions to me to help me put a show together

00:43:07.720 because I've been so busy and my schedule has been

00:43:11.080 so tight that I just haven't been able to book

00:43:14.800 a guest and it is the also the the doldrums of

00:43:17.900 summer where a lot of people are out doing summer

00:43:22.840 holidays things and my usual guests and so they're not

00:43:26.780 always available to me but this week I was able to bring

00:43:30.260 in Jeffrey Rath on a very timely issue on his new fiscal

00:43:34.920 plan for a free and independent Alberta so I'm grateful

00:43:37.740 for that I'm grateful for his time and I'm I'm glad as

00:43:42.300 much as I am grateful to read your viewer feedback I'm sort

00:43:45.480 of glad to get back into the swing of things so thank you all

00:43:48.060 of you for bearing with me but that also means that we go

00:43:51.980 back to your viewer feedback being in the last segment of

00:43:55.580 the show and there are a few different ways where you can

00:43:57.660 get your viewer feedback to me you can send it directly to

00:44:00.140 me via email it's Sheila at rebel news dot com super easy put

00:44:06.300 gun show letters in the subject line I'll know why you're

00:44:08.680 writing me and who knows you might just see it read on air but

00:44:13.400 also if you are watching free clips of the show or even better

00:44:16.660 sharing the free clips of the show because you folks are

00:44:19.400 premium subscribers to your friends because they need to see

00:44:22.460 it encourage them to leave comments there because I want to

00:44:26.660 know what people are thinking about what lives behind the

00:44:30.440 paywall right so do that encourage them to leave comments

00:44:35.200 leave comments yourself it helps us get around the algorithm

00:44:37.700 but I also go and I read those comments I appreciate your

00:44:41.060 feedback will never take a penny from Mark Carney and so I need

00:44:46.360 to evaluate what you think about the work that we're doing and

00:44:50.140 the stories that we're covering and and the people that we

00:44:53.240 talk about so please do that for me and leaving those comments is

00:44:57.140 totally free so in one of my I think it was last week's letters

00:45:03.360 segment I received a letter from a former sadly RCMP officer and he

00:45:10.980 had been forced out of the RCMP because of the vaccine mandate in

00:45:15.640 fact he had been placed on leave without pay so he went and got

00:45:22.080 another job to support his family and then the RCMP brought

00:45:27.180 him back and then basically strong-armed him into a

00:45:33.120 resignation or he quit so I find this stuff horribly

00:45:38.900 distressing because those are the kind of people we want in

00:45:42.920 our public institutions the people who with a strong moral code who

00:45:47.320 are above coercion those are the people we want to put into

00:45:51.020 positions of leadership in the military in the RCMP who who have a

00:45:55.320 strong sense of right and wrong and and human rights and yet all

00:45:59.220 those people were sort of forced out of the military and the RCMP

00:46:05.960 because of the vaccine mandate and it it makes me very sad and makes

00:46:12.360 me very worried about our public institutions going forward you know I

00:46:19.120 know a lot of people took the vaccine against unemployment and I don't begrudge

00:46:26.320 them that at all but I think people should have been given a choice and many

00:46:32.660 weren't and so anyways I read that letter on air it's like four or five

00:46:39.440 minutes and responded to it and it was just sort of crushing what they put him

00:46:45.180 through after what appears to be many many years of loyal service to the RCMP

00:46:55.660 and to Canadians and so I thought I would see what you guys were saying about

00:47:03.660 that story because that story really bothered me it still bothers me I still

00:47:08.060 think about it um Judith Grimes 174 writes God bless you Andrew thank you for

00:47:14.900 your years of service sorry you were treated like a criminal completely

00:47:20.440 Willem Feather 2655 says we want people in leadership with a strong moral code

00:47:28.740 bingo yes yeah and we have people now who unquestioningly imposed on other

00:47:38.560 people something which at the end of the day at the very least was ineffective and at

00:47:46.240 worst for some ended up being quite harmful

00:47:49.060 Bonnie Peters 8576 says sounds like what happened to me when working in a long-term care facility

00:47:59.360 was escorted out for non-compliance to a vaccine

00:48:03.880 Sharoon Line 532 says this happened to a lot of long-serving Canadian Forces members

00:48:17.720 forced into becoming vets all because they refused to get the jab some of those stories

00:48:22.720 um about what happened to those members of the Canadian Forces are atrocious pregnant 0.97

00:48:30.140 members being coerced at their homes into getting the vaccine like women who said

00:48:39.520 I'll get it just let me deliver my baby and that wasn't good enough for the chain of command

00:48:46.740 I know that um Valor Legal is still pursuing uh a lawsuit against the federal government

00:48:55.660 for what happened there uh you on you I on I guess it says unions are just as complicit in this

00:49:07.340 for not sticking up for the workers never forget how they treated us in our very own country that is

00:49:12.740 true a lot of people thought workers stood for you uh workers like that thought unions stood for

00:49:23.680 workers rights and they would take the side of the worker in a workplace dispute but that is not what

00:49:28.880 happened many unions took the side of the government and the employer in contrary to their obligations

00:49:38.480 to act on behalf of the worker and it just is proof positive to my point that many of these unions are just

00:49:49.600 uh forced NDP clubs that you have to pay union dues into against your will they don't actually care about

00:49:59.580 the worker they care about the politics of the NDP and the NDP were very pro-vaccination pro-control

00:50:08.020 and uh if the rights of the worker ended up on the wrong side of the NDP

00:50:15.640 union viewpoint well then they didn't help you at all at all

00:50:22.780 um maple hornet 416 and this will be the last one says it's bizarre that federally regulated

00:50:38.760 government departments were not all consistent with regard to covid mandate requirements even though

00:50:43.980 they all share the same overall policies this was true I work in a large federally regulated company

00:50:51.000 in Canada and through a carefully composed letter with scientific proof to my HR department I was

00:50:58.880 able to forego vaccination as long as I was tested once a week at the company oddly some friends of

00:51:04.440 mine were also able to forego vaccination and were able to remain in the armed forces it probably had

00:51:10.300 more to do with tyrannical bosses than overall policies for some people a simple no was all they needed

00:51:15.840 and they could remain in their jobs and others the mere threat of refusing a vaccine could ensure

00:51:20.840 a dismissal I remain unvaccinated to this day yeah a lot of it was arbitrary I mean all of it was

00:51:27.600 arbitrary hindsight being 2020 although people could thinking people could clearly see how crazy it was

00:51:34.840 at the time like if you went counterclockwise in the grocery store you would catch the deadly

00:51:44.720 black death and die but if you went clockwise with the arrows you were safe if you sat down in the bar you 0.99

00:51:56.440 didn't need your mask if you stood up the plague would get you so stupid privacy didn't exist you had to tell 1.00

00:52:06.780 your bartender your medical status before he poured you a Coors Light like it's just the stupidest thing and a lot of 0.99

00:52:16.500 people saw it for what it was at the time a lot of people saw well vitamin D is one of the key drivers of human 0.96

00:52:25.160 immunity but they wanted to keep us all inside they locked up the national park next door just madness anyways yeah it came

00:52:34.400 down to uh whatever crazy person was your boss basically and if you had a crazy person who was

00:52:41.440 your boss they would take this opportunity to seize the power they so thirsted for over your life

00:52:48.360 and if you had a normal reasonable person as your boss they looked at you and said

00:52:53.220 okay fine you have a vaccine exemption perf none of my business we checked that box let's carry on

00:53:03.080 those were the good people in the machinery and we should appreciate them because they probably were

00:53:09.540 working in very difficult conditions those bosses um but those other ones you're monsters I hope you

00:53:17.640 know it maybe they will someday anyways I'm going to take every opportunity I can to remind them what

00:53:24.020 monsters they were um and I hope you do too well everybody that's the show for tonight thank you so much

00:53:28.940 for tuning in I'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week

00:53:32.620 actually I don't know where I'll be but uh I promise as always you'll have a show

00:53:36.300 and remember don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think

00:53:40.500 you

00:54:01.740 you

00:54:02.260 you

Rebel News Podcast - July 10, 2025

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ How ditching Ottawa could make you $17K richer： The fiscal plan for Alberta independence

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