Rebel News Podcast - July 10, 2025


SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ How ditching Ottawa could make you $17K richer： The fiscal plan for Alberta independence


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Length

54 minutes

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163.17596

Word Count

8,822

Sentence Count

175

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

28


Summary

Jeffrey Rath from the Alberta Prosperity Project joins me tonight to talk about sovereignty, separation, and Jason Kenney s bold plan to make it happen. What if Alberta could afford to ditch Ottawa, slash taxes, boost pensions, and still run a massive surplus? That s exactly what a new draft fiscal plan lays out in a new report from the APP lays out.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Keep our money, control our future, maybe even leave Canada.
00:00:03.560 Geoffrey Rath from the Alberta Prosperity Project joins me tonight to talk about sovereignty,
00:00:07.980 separation, and his bold plan to make it happen.
00:00:11.660 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:00:30.000 What if Alberta could afford to ditch Ottawa, slash your taxes, boost pensions, and still run a massive surplus?
00:00:37.560 That's exactly what a new draft fiscal plan from the Alberta Prosperity Project lays out.
00:00:42.860 The report shows that if Alberta kept the $68 to $75 billion it sends to Ottawa every year,
00:00:48.340 the province could fully fund every federal service from defence to pensions to border control
00:00:53.520 and still pocket a surplus of $48 billion a year.
00:00:57.680 How big is that surplus?
00:00:58.720 Big enough to eliminate the GST and provincial income taxes.
00:01:02.720 In fact, the plan models a 29% to 46% personal tax cut,
00:01:08.560 dropping the average Albertans' total tax bill by up to $17,560 per year.
00:01:17.120 This isn't just short-term fiscal fantasy.
00:01:19.800 If Alberta went all in on growth, doubling oil and gas output and cutting red tape,
00:01:24.660 the province's total economic activity could balloon by $8.2 trillion over 20 years,
00:01:31.080 and the Heritage Savings Trust Fund could swell to $1.4 trillion,
00:01:36.060 generating more than $50 billion more per year in returns alone.
00:01:42.000 Joining me now to break down the numbers, the risks, and the opportunity of a sovereign Alberta
00:01:45.620 is constitutional lawyer and APP co-founder, Jeffrey Rath, in an interview we recorded yesterday morning.
00:01:53.380 Take a listen.
00:01:53.900 So joining me now is constitutional lawyer and co-founder of the Alberta Prosperity Project,
00:02:06.180 Jeffrey Rath.
00:02:07.220 Jeff, thanks so much for coming on the show.
00:02:09.340 Big news from our friends at the APP over the last week or so.
00:02:14.700 But before I get into what you're up to these days, give us a little bit about who and what you are.
00:02:22.360 If people are just meeting you for the first time, I know you've had some great accomplishments
00:02:26.160 over the last little bit.
00:02:27.820 So tell us about those.
00:02:29.760 Yeah, sure.
00:02:30.440 I'm a constitutional lawyer, which is just a fancy way for saying that I sue governments for a living.
00:02:36.000 So I spent 34 years suing the government of Canada, suing the government of Alberta,
00:02:40.660 government of Manitoba, government of the Northwest Territories, government of British Columbia,
00:02:46.580 you know, on behalf of citizens in those jurisdictions, Ontario, you know,
00:02:52.260 citizens in those jurisdictions whose rights have been violated by those governments.
00:02:57.700 So, you know, it was unsurprising then, given my skill set, that I would be involved during the pandemic,
00:03:04.000 suing the Alberta government and the communists in Jason Kenney's cabinet,
00:03:08.340 who thought it was appropriate to tell Albertans how many friends they were allowed to have
00:03:13.140 to shut down our high schools while leaving the bars, casinos and strip clubs open.
00:03:18.500 So our 18-year-old kids couldn't go to school, but they could go to the bars, casinos and strip clubs.
00:03:23.640 I guess this is Jason Kenney's idea of higher education or grooming.
00:03:27.220 I'm not sure which, but, you know, something along those lines.
00:03:30.640 But anyway, that's kind of who I am and what I am.
00:03:32.940 I succeeded, actually, in having every single order issued by Dana Hinshaw and Jason Kenney
00:03:38.480 through the currency of the pandemic in Alberta declared ultra-vires or illegal.
00:03:45.980 So now we're undertaking two massive class-action lawsuits on the basis of all the illegal orders
00:03:51.660 that were issued by the Kenney government on behalf of all the Alberta business owners
00:03:55.700 that were illegally shut down during COVID,
00:03:57.480 and then on behalf of all of the poor people that were horribly vaccine-injured
00:04:01.900 because all choices were taken away from them with regard to vaccines,
00:04:06.240 Dana Hinshaw, Theresa Tam, Bonnie Henry and others,
00:04:09.720 you know, under Committee of Public Safety, basically,
00:04:12.760 getting together weekly to figure out how they were going to lie to Canadians,
00:04:16.020 you know, about this, quote-unquote,
00:04:18.320 how safe and effective the vaccines were,
00:04:20.920 you know, while hiding and lying about any real scientific evidence
00:04:24.960 that demonstrated that the vaccines were neither safe or effective
00:04:28.580 and should not have been rolled out in the way they were,
00:04:31.500 especially to pregnant women and children,
00:04:34.420 you know, et cetera, et cetera.
00:04:36.420 So anyway, that's kind of, you know, in a nutshell,
00:04:39.300 who I am, what I've been doing for the last 34 years of my life.
00:04:44.180 And now I'm involved with the Alberta Prosperity Project,
00:04:47.580 and we've just finalized something we're very, very proud of.
00:04:50.360 This is a fully-costed fiscal plan for an independent Alberta
00:04:55.600 called the Value of Freedom, right?
00:04:59.360 This is, I guess, I think the one I'm holding up is an earlier draft.
00:05:02.700 This is probably a Mark 2.0 version, now that I look at the title.
00:05:06.520 But it's still the Value of Freedom.
00:05:09.120 And what the fully-costed plan demonstrates
00:05:11.420 on the basis of public-source documents,
00:05:16.540 Statistics Canada, Fraser Institute, Government of Alberta,
00:05:19.540 Government of Canada, et cetera, is that after independence,
00:05:23.420 after fully costing and paying for an Alberta military
00:05:27.540 at 3% of GDP with $1.5 billion in startup costs,
00:05:31.700 Department of External Affairs, Department of Immigration,
00:05:35.060 and most importantly, deportation,
00:05:38.240 a Department of, you know, Customs and Border Patrol,
00:05:41.780 you know, all those types of things, airports, navigation,
00:05:45.180 tripling the spend on Indigenous people in the province of Alberta
00:05:48.660 through constitutionalized resource revenue sharing
00:05:51.180 to lift the Indigenous people of Alberta out of the poverty
00:05:55.060 that Canada has left them in for 150 years.
00:05:58.060 After paying for all of that, the fiscal plan that we published
00:06:01.900 demonstrates that we're going to have between approximately
00:06:05.000 a $30 to $50 billion a year annual fiscal capacity surplus,
00:06:10.660 which could be applied to, you know, 30% to 50% tax cuts in year one.
00:06:16.240 So we're very excited about it.
00:06:17.880 The other thing that I wanted to note for people to go,
00:06:20.840 oh, this is all pie in the sky and these numbers are ridiculous
00:06:23.960 and things can't be that good.
00:06:26.220 This is too good to be true, you know, all that nonsense.
00:06:29.120 The funniest thing about this document, when we published it,
00:06:32.760 we published it on the basis of last year's Alberta budget numbers,
00:06:37.000 which showed a $6.5 billion deficit.
00:06:40.820 So this year, they posted an $8.5 billion surplus.
00:06:45.020 So if we'd waited a week before publishing the document,
00:06:48.440 the fiscal capacity surplus of Alberta would have actually been $15 billion
00:06:53.840 higher than is indicated in the plan that we published.
00:06:58.160 So obviously, you know, we're very excited about this document.
00:07:01.840 I'm urging everybody that's interested in Alberta freedom
00:07:05.500 and the value of freedom to go to albertaprosperity.project.com
00:07:11.380 and download the document.
00:07:12.760 We have a copy of it available free online.
00:07:16.960 And then we're actually also selling hard copies of these documents
00:07:21.960 at APP events to help defray the printing costs
00:07:25.000 and for fundraising purposes.
00:07:27.780 And copies will be available for sale at APP events
00:07:32.040 around the province very soon.
00:07:34.000 We just have to, we sold out the last time.
00:07:36.680 I took several boxes of them into a 600-person APP event in Airdrie
00:07:43.620 and we sold out in about five minutes.
00:07:46.280 So anyway, we're very excited about this.
00:07:49.820 Everybody that reads it is very excited about this.
00:07:52.160 I gave a presentation on this to a United Conservative Party of Alberta town hall
00:07:58.800 called The Courage to Listen.
00:08:01.340 And the president of the party was there,
00:08:03.200 the chief financial officer of the party was there,
00:08:05.960 and several MLAs were there, you know,
00:08:08.860 constituency association presidents,
00:08:10.960 members of the party had packed this hall out in Calgary.
00:08:14.840 And one of the things that I said was that after reading this document
00:08:19.760 and understanding how much better off Alberta is going to be after independence,
00:08:26.220 I declared on the basis of the standard of a fiduciary at Canadian law,
00:08:31.220 which is that of a reasonably prudent person of business managing their own affairs,
00:08:35.400 that's the test of Canadian law,
00:08:37.080 that any elected MLA or cabinet minister or premier that does not embrace this plan
00:08:46.220 and start pursuing Alberta independence on the basis of an almost immediate
00:08:51.880 $30 to $50 billion a year fiscal capacity surplus
00:08:55.940 is violating their fiduciary obligations to the Alberta voters.
00:09:00.280 And I want all of them to listen to that,
00:09:02.120 and I want Daniel Smith to internalize the fact
00:09:04.420 that the day for all of the Team Canada pom-pom cheering stuff is over,
00:09:09.920 and that unless she embraces Alberta independence
00:09:12.980 on the basis of a fully-costed fiscal plan
00:09:18.700 for a sovereign and independent Alberta,
00:09:21.020 that she's violating her fiduciary obligations to the voters that elected her.
00:09:25.740 You know, it's funny to see the people on the other side say,
00:09:30.320 well, you could never do this, you haven't thought of everything,
00:09:33.520 but I feel like that's APP's role in all of this,
00:09:37.940 is to actually think of everything and then think of the answers.
00:09:41.640 You know, Corey Morgan has been great on this issue too,
00:09:45.140 where, you know, he says,
00:09:47.320 for people who misunderstand,
00:09:49.960 Indigenous people don't have a veto
00:09:51.440 over whether or not this province can stay or go.
00:09:54.840 They have a vote, just like the rest of us,
00:09:57.400 and we will need to think about what to do with Indigenous reserves.
00:10:01.940 And APP has said, we'll increase your funding threefold.
00:10:06.680 Now tell us why you should stay in Canada,
00:10:09.120 which doesn't provide you clean drinking water.
00:10:11.960 Yeah, well, and that's my message for the Chiefs of Alberta,
00:10:14.780 is I don't understand,
00:10:16.320 other than, you know,
00:10:17.640 all of the lawyers and consultants around them.
00:10:19.860 And believe me, I mean,
00:10:20.540 I still work for First Nations,
00:10:22.600 Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba,
00:10:24.620 Northwest Territories, et cetera,
00:10:26.100 and First Nations people.
00:10:27.520 I mean, I understand
00:10:29.020 who some of these consultants or lawyers are
00:10:32.100 in and around them that are horrified by this plan.
00:10:34.900 And by and large,
00:10:35.720 these lawyers are all left-wing,
00:10:37.560 NDP-adjacent or NDP-affiliated lawyers,
00:10:41.200 you know, like Orlo, Kelly,
00:10:42.700 and who's another one?
00:10:46.340 Anyway, it doesn't matter.
00:10:47.760 I don't need to start naming them all.
00:10:48.980 But, I mean, these lawyers,
00:10:51.340 you know, like some of them were involved
00:10:53.280 in actually bringing applications
00:10:55.200 on behalf of the Alberta unions
00:10:56.800 to re-mask our children, right?
00:10:59.640 If you can imagine that,
00:11:00.800 when Jason Kenney said,
00:11:02.020 okay, we're done with all of this foolishness,
00:11:04.040 pandemic's over,
00:11:04.960 everybody's free to go, whatever.
00:11:07.160 Some of these lawyers
00:11:08.400 that are representing Indigenous communities
00:11:10.100 and screaming and yelling
00:11:11.800 about how horrible Alberta independence will be,
00:11:14.820 literally were bringing applications in court
00:11:17.180 to re-mask our children
00:11:18.920 right?
00:11:20.140 Yeah.
00:11:20.400 So, you know,
00:11:21.000 this is the type of people
00:11:22.340 that we're talking about
00:11:23.540 that are giving advice to the chiefs
00:11:25.560 about how horrible independence
00:11:26.860 is going to be.
00:11:27.960 So, of course,
00:11:29.000 you know,
00:11:29.220 my question for the chiefs is,
00:11:30.900 what part of,
00:11:31.820 you know,
00:11:32.660 continuing to send
00:11:33.680 $15 billion a year
00:11:35.460 to Quebec
00:11:35.960 as opposed to keeping
00:11:37.580 that money in Alberta
00:11:38.700 to help lift your people
00:11:40.300 out of poverty
00:11:40.920 is such a horrible thing.
00:11:42.520 I mean,
00:11:42.760 we're literally talking about
00:11:43.960 constitutionalized resource
00:11:45.320 revenue sharing,
00:11:46.260 which is something
00:11:47.260 that I know
00:11:48.220 that the chiefs
00:11:49.280 and councils of Alberta
00:11:50.520 have been demanding
00:11:52.520 for years.
00:11:53.800 That can be fully costed,
00:11:55.540 fully constitutionalized,
00:11:56.980 built into a plan
00:11:58.220 for a,
00:11:58.860 you know,
00:11:59.120 for a fiscal,
00:11:59.880 for a free Alberta
00:12:01.520 where communities,
00:12:02.920 you know,
00:12:03.440 are,
00:12:03.840 take part
00:12:04.600 in the wealth
00:12:05.160 of this province,
00:12:05.800 where they are literally
00:12:06.980 being provided
00:12:08.680 a share
00:12:09.380 of the wealth
00:12:09.980 that comes from their lands
00:12:11.220 on a going forward basis.
00:12:13.100 I mean,
00:12:13.280 I'm looking forward
00:12:14.200 to having a debate
00:12:15.040 with Mr. Nenshi.
00:12:16.060 It's like,
00:12:16.540 Mr. Nenshi,
00:12:17.240 why are you so against
00:12:18.220 Alberta independence?
00:12:19.360 Do you hate
00:12:19.940 Indigenous people?
00:12:20.920 Are you a racist?
00:12:22.540 You know,
00:12:22.760 I mean,
00:12:23.060 seriously,
00:12:23.900 that's what it comes down to.
00:12:25.400 I mean,
00:12:25.660 the people that oppose
00:12:26.600 Alberta independence
00:12:27.500 and the fiscal capacity
00:12:29.120 that this creates,
00:12:30.800 you know,
00:12:31.540 as far as I'm concerned,
00:12:32.540 must hate Indigenous people
00:12:33.880 in Alberta
00:12:34.420 because they don't want
00:12:36.060 them to succeed
00:12:36.700 and they don't want them,
00:12:37.840 they don't want them
00:12:38.660 to be financially independent.
00:12:40.560 Yeah,
00:12:40.960 they're the same people.
00:12:41.460 It's a really interesting
00:12:43.840 dichotomy
00:12:44.420 if you think about it.
00:12:45.580 For sure.
00:12:46.020 They'd rather give
00:12:46.580 that money to Quebec.
00:12:47.720 They want $15 billion
00:12:48.820 a year to go to Quebec
00:12:49.840 and they don't want
00:12:50.900 any of that money
00:12:51.500 coming back to Alberta
00:12:52.440 for Alberta's Indigenous people.
00:12:53.980 What does that tell you
00:12:54.840 about them?
00:12:55.740 Right.
00:12:56.100 And these are the exact
00:12:56.880 same people
00:12:57.440 who will agree
00:12:58.360 with the statements
00:12:59.220 of our prior Prime Minister
00:13:00.740 who accused Canada
00:13:02.720 of being some sort
00:13:03.960 of genocidal state,
00:13:05.820 now still insisting
00:13:07.300 that our Indigenous people
00:13:09.020 stay within the framework
00:13:10.420 of the Laurentian
00:13:11.920 genocidal state.
00:13:13.440 It's incongruous
00:13:15.600 in five.
00:13:16.440 Oh,
00:13:16.680 it's completely
00:13:18.300 incongruous.
00:13:19.080 I mean,
00:13:19.200 I've been fighting
00:13:19.900 the government
00:13:20.400 of Canada
00:13:20.940 on behalf
00:13:21.880 of Indigenous people
00:13:22.800 my entire career
00:13:23.740 as a lawyer.
00:13:24.420 I mean,
00:13:24.660 I've won decisions
00:13:26.420 in the Supreme Court
00:13:27.320 of Canada,
00:13:28.300 you know,
00:13:28.520 including the
00:13:29.280 Micah Sucre decision,
00:13:30.420 which was one
00:13:30.860 of the most
00:13:32.020 far-reaching
00:13:33.540 treaty rights decisions
00:13:34.700 in the history
00:13:35.300 of Canada.
00:13:35.760 In fact,
00:13:36.520 Nigel Banks,
00:13:37.340 the law professor
00:13:38.060 of the University
00:13:38.800 of Calgary,
00:13:39.780 has described
00:13:40.360 the Micah Sucre case
00:13:41.220 that I won 9-0
00:13:42.260 as lead counsel
00:13:43.120 at the Supreme Court
00:13:43.820 of Canada
00:13:44.300 as being one
00:13:45.280 of the most important
00:13:46.500 treaty and aboriginal
00:13:47.260 rights cases
00:13:48.000 since the St. Catherine's
00:13:49.980 Millings decision
00:13:50.800 in the 19th century.
00:13:52.640 You know,
00:13:52.920 so I didn't wake up
00:13:53.880 one morning
00:13:54.360 and go,
00:13:54.780 oh,
00:13:54.960 wow,
00:13:55.280 I'm going to,
00:13:55.680 you know,
00:13:55.840 all of a sudden
00:13:56.420 decide that I'm going
00:13:57.940 to undo my life's work.
00:14:00.340 Right?
00:14:00.960 The reason
00:14:01.560 that I am doing this
00:14:02.620 is that I firmly believe
00:14:04.060 that an independent Alberta
00:14:05.400 that recognizes
00:14:06.760 the sovereignty
00:14:07.560 and independence
00:14:09.060 of Alberta's
00:14:09.800 indigenous nations
00:14:10.700 and getting them
00:14:11.440 out from underneath
00:14:12.560 the paternalism
00:14:14.060 of the entire,
00:14:15.200 you know,
00:14:15.400 the Indian Act,
00:14:16.440 you know,
00:14:16.880 Indian Affairs structure.
00:14:18.400 They can change its name,
00:14:19.660 but they haven't changed
00:14:20.360 its function.
00:14:21.860 You know,
00:14:22.100 I mean,
00:14:22.380 basically,
00:14:22.880 the federal government
00:14:23.620 exists to,
00:14:25.220 A,
00:14:25.500 you know,
00:14:25.720 limit the number
00:14:26.400 of First Nations people
00:14:27.340 in this country
00:14:27.900 to control
00:14:28.540 the Indian Register,
00:14:30.120 which is a form
00:14:31.180 of legislative genocide,
00:14:32.920 and B,
00:14:33.600 you know,
00:14:34.360 basically wants
00:14:35.540 to manage them
00:14:36.520 to death
00:14:37.080 by not fulfilling
00:14:38.660 all of the promises
00:14:39.780 that they made
00:14:40.580 in the treaties
00:14:41.500 as treaty promises.
00:14:43.120 So,
00:14:43.880 you know,
00:14:44.220 I don't understand
00:14:45.100 why there should be
00:14:45.820 any great love
00:14:46.680 between the indigenous
00:14:47.580 people of Alberta
00:14:48.480 and the federal government
00:14:49.900 who's been screwing
00:14:51.020 them over
00:14:51.540 and over and over
00:14:53.120 and over again,
00:14:54.420 you know,
00:14:54.700 for over a century.
00:14:56.720 Yeah.
00:14:57.360 So,
00:14:57.800 I mean,
00:14:57.980 that's probably all
00:14:59.240 we need to say
00:14:59.740 on that subject
00:15:00.320 this morning,
00:15:00.960 but there's a lot
00:15:01.560 of other things
00:15:02.060 to talk about,
00:15:02.780 but I just,
00:15:03.280 I'm glad that you gave
00:15:04.200 me the opportunity
00:15:04.820 to talk about that.
00:15:06.340 For sure.
00:15:06.920 It's such a huge issue
00:15:08.160 and it's the one thing
00:15:09.480 that the other side
00:15:10.220 loves to hammer on
00:15:11.640 is indigenous people,
00:15:12.880 indigenous people.
00:15:13.620 And,
00:15:14.000 you know,
00:15:14.080 when I speak to my friend
00:15:14.840 Robbie Picard
00:15:15.660 from Oil Sand Strong
00:15:17.220 who does so much work
00:15:18.540 with indigenous oil
00:15:20.880 and gas,
00:15:22.120 the $500 billion
00:15:24.460 worth of blocked
00:15:26.440 and canceled projects,
00:15:27.900 many of them,
00:15:28.560 and many of them
00:15:29.400 are right
00:15:30.180 in indigenous communities
00:15:31.380 where indigenous people
00:15:33.340 would have employment
00:15:34.640 in their own community
00:15:36.340 and those are being blocked
00:15:38.580 by the paternalist gatekeepers
00:15:41.120 to use a Paliyev word.
00:15:42.960 Well,
00:15:43.260 or by terrorists
00:15:45.000 or by terrorists
00:15:46.160 funded by,
00:15:47.120 you know,
00:15:47.620 left-wing organizations
00:15:48.840 of the United States
00:15:49.960 or wherever.
00:15:50.700 I mean,
00:15:50.880 let's look at,
00:15:51.340 you know,
00:15:52.480 that,
00:15:52.740 you know,
00:15:52.960 that attack
00:15:53.480 on that pipeline camp
00:15:54.800 right in and around
00:15:55.960 the time
00:15:56.360 of the Freedom Convoy.
00:15:57.340 I mean,
00:15:57.880 they declared
00:15:58.360 the Emergencies Act,
00:15:59.900 you know,
00:16:00.160 over a bunch
00:16:00.940 of peaceful protesters,
00:16:02.620 but,
00:16:02.820 you know,
00:16:02.980 everybody needs to know
00:16:04.020 JTF-2
00:16:05.060 was in part established
00:16:06.720 to provide,
00:16:07.960 you know,
00:16:08.200 that Joint Task Force 2
00:16:09.580 or a counterterrorism unit
00:16:11.140 was established
00:16:12.200 to provide
00:16:12.920 rapid response
00:16:14.540 to acts
00:16:15.540 of industrial sabotage
00:16:17.300 against national projects.
00:16:18.900 That pipeline
00:16:19.580 was a national project.
00:16:21.100 You think Trudeau
00:16:21.660 deployed JTF-2
00:16:23.340 to track down
00:16:24.100 the 80 or so people
00:16:25.360 that were involved
00:16:26.440 in destroying
00:16:27.000 that pipeline cap?
00:16:28.140 Of course not.
00:16:29.340 He's more interested
00:16:30.160 in trampling
00:16:30.740 little old ladies,
00:16:31.740 you know,
00:16:31.900 little old indigenous ladies
00:16:33.120 with horses in the streets
00:16:34.300 because they dared
00:16:35.480 to come to Ottawa
00:16:36.340 to embarrass him
00:16:37.420 over his foolish policies.
00:16:39.820 Yeah.
00:16:40.500 You know,
00:16:40.720 and again,
00:16:41.480 I think that's,
00:16:42.140 you know,
00:16:42.300 when you talk about
00:16:42.960 Alberta independence,
00:16:44.340 I mean,
00:16:44.580 that's what's fueling this
00:16:45.620 for a lot of us,
00:16:46.620 right?
00:16:46.880 I mean,
00:16:47.440 we,
00:16:47.700 you know,
00:16:47.840 everybody says,
00:16:48.400 oh,
00:16:48.520 we have to be nostalgic
00:16:49.500 for Canada.
00:16:50.380 Don't you love Canada?
00:16:51.560 Oh,
00:16:51.860 Canada,
00:16:52.460 you know,
00:16:52.780 blah,
00:16:53.040 blah,
00:16:53.260 blah.
00:16:53.420 It's like Canada
00:16:54.780 ceased being Canada
00:16:55.940 the day that Trudeau
00:16:56.900 declared war on us
00:16:58.200 by invoking the
00:16:59.400 Emergencies Act,
00:17:00.760 you know,
00:17:01.240 simply because he
00:17:01.980 didn't want to hear
00:17:02.580 the voices of people
00:17:03.580 that disagreed with him.
00:17:04.760 After discussing
00:17:06.580 with Cabinet
00:17:08.140 and Caucus,
00:17:09.800 after consultation
00:17:10.900 with Premiers
00:17:12.460 from all provinces
00:17:13.800 and territories,
00:17:15.200 after speaking
00:17:16.140 with opposition leaders,
00:17:18.640 the federal government
00:17:20.000 has invoked
00:17:22.220 the Emergencies Act
00:17:23.720 to supplement
00:17:24.960 provincial
00:17:25.780 and territorial
00:17:26.680 capacity
00:17:27.400 to address
00:17:28.660 the blockades
00:17:29.500 and occupations.
00:17:31.280 Right?
00:17:31.740 So,
00:17:32.320 you know,
00:17:32.620 there's nothing for me
00:17:33.500 to be nostalgic
00:17:34.400 about Canada for.
00:17:36.060 And,
00:17:36.400 you know,
00:17:36.840 as far as I'm concerned,
00:17:38.340 the only way forward
00:17:39.440 and the only way
00:17:40.300 to save Canada
00:17:41.240 and the only way
00:17:42.800 to actually reopen
00:17:43.940 the Canadian Constitution,
00:17:45.420 and keep in mind,
00:17:46.020 I've been a constitutional lawyer
00:17:47.100 for 34 years,
00:17:48.620 you know,
00:17:48.860 is effectively
00:17:50.060 to pull out
00:17:51.180 one of the Jenga blocks,
00:17:52.680 you know,
00:17:52.980 that is,
00:17:53.480 you know,
00:17:53.700 the Jenga Tower of Canada,
00:17:55.520 in this case Alberta,
00:17:57.060 to reopen
00:17:57.720 the Canadian Constitution.
00:17:59.140 We'll be doing
00:17:59.560 the rest of the country
00:18:00.360 a huge favor
00:18:01.440 by taking Alberta
00:18:02.780 out of Canada.
00:18:03.600 There's no doubt about it.
00:18:04.780 Because then they're
00:18:05.340 going to have to,
00:18:05.940 you know,
00:18:06.140 they're going to have to,
00:18:06.880 you know,
00:18:07.140 they're going to have to look
00:18:07.820 at the whole Constitution again.
00:18:09.800 The other thing, too,
00:18:10.640 that some of your viewers
00:18:11.560 may not know,
00:18:12.880 on May 27th,
00:18:14.260 coincidentally,
00:18:14.700 it was my birthday,
00:18:16.740 Quebec gave the rest
00:18:18.500 of the country
00:18:19.000 a huge gift.
00:18:20.420 And that was
00:18:21.040 that Quebec
00:18:21.440 actually took itself
00:18:22.700 out of the Constitution
00:18:23.920 of Canada.
00:18:24.920 I don't know
00:18:25.260 whether you followed
00:18:25.860 this or not,
00:18:26.460 but the Legislative Assembly
00:18:27.760 of Quebec
00:18:28.360 unilaterally,
00:18:30.300 unanimously
00:18:31.180 declared
00:18:32.400 that it had
00:18:33.380 abolished
00:18:34.260 all ties
00:18:35.080 with the British monarchy.
00:18:37.000 Right?
00:18:37.440 And they actually
00:18:38.300 hand-delivered
00:18:39.120 this resolution
00:18:39.820 to King Charles
00:18:42.240 when he was in town
00:18:43.560 giving Carney's
00:18:44.620 little theatrical
00:18:45.620 throne speech
00:18:47.320 in Ottawa.
00:18:48.260 So what that means
00:18:49.180 is Quebec
00:18:49.660 is no longer
00:18:50.440 part of the
00:18:50.920 Constitutional Order
00:18:51.880 of Canada.
00:18:52.840 They have abolished
00:18:53.940 their ties
00:18:54.400 with the monarchy.
00:18:55.080 It fundamentally
00:18:56.380 takes them
00:18:58.440 outside of
00:18:59.340 the British
00:19:00.940 North America Act
00:19:01.900 or the Constitution
00:19:02.500 Act 1867
00:19:04.000 as it's now called,
00:19:05.480 which says that
00:19:06.140 Canada is to have
00:19:06.980 a government
00:19:07.380 similar in principle
00:19:08.680 to the government
00:19:09.680 of the United Kingdom,
00:19:11.120 which includes
00:19:11.700 the monarchy.
00:19:13.100 Right?
00:19:13.460 So Quebec's
00:19:14.140 no longer part
00:19:14.880 of the Constitutional
00:19:15.900 Order of Canada.
00:19:17.200 So why are we
00:19:18.000 continuing to send
00:19:18.860 them transfer payments?
00:19:19.920 Why are we
00:19:20.440 continuing to worry
00:19:21.360 about what their
00:19:21.920 views are
00:19:22.620 within the amending
00:19:23.640 formula to the
00:19:24.460 Constitution?
00:19:25.340 They're not part
00:19:26.140 of the Constitution
00:19:26.840 anymore.
00:19:27.980 So, you know,
00:19:28.720 again, you know,
00:19:29.720 this is for down
00:19:30.620 the road,
00:19:31.100 and once Alberta
00:19:31.680 votes itself out
00:19:32.620 of Canada,
00:19:33.640 you know,
00:19:34.300 we're really not
00:19:34.960 voting ourselves
00:19:35.600 out of a country
00:19:37.040 that even exists
00:19:38.060 anymore,
00:19:39.060 which is something
00:19:39.780 that, you know,
00:19:40.580 something else
00:19:41.260 that I'd like
00:19:41.680 people to
00:19:42.220 internalize.
00:19:44.680 Yeah, I mean,
00:19:45.840 moreover to your
00:19:46.820 point about maybe
00:19:47.540 saving Canada from
00:19:48.540 itself by forcing
00:19:49.860 them to do
00:19:50.420 something,
00:19:51.160 maybe Quebec
00:19:51.780 could actually
00:19:52.700 develop their
00:19:53.440 Utica shale
00:19:54.240 gas resources
00:19:55.280 instead of just
00:19:56.900 relying on
00:19:57.580 transfer payments
00:19:58.540 from Alberta.
00:19:59.700 Maybe they'll do
00:20:00.420 something with the
00:20:01.220 resources that they
00:20:02.180 have when they
00:20:02.780 don't have to
00:20:03.440 siphon money
00:20:05.040 out of Alberta.
00:20:07.040 Now, I want to
00:20:07.700 ask you about
00:20:09.040 the referendum
00:20:10.520 question,
00:20:11.700 because you guys
00:20:12.600 were first out of
00:20:13.840 the gate with the
00:20:14.760 referendum question,
00:20:15.680 and now the
00:20:17.540 rules for
00:20:18.660 referendum have
00:20:20.100 been changed.
00:20:21.620 Tell us about
00:20:22.300 your question.
00:20:23.180 Tell us what
00:20:23.600 comes next.
00:20:24.820 Okay, well,
00:20:25.520 our question
00:20:26.060 quite simply
00:20:26.780 is, do you
00:20:29.560 agree that
00:20:30.600 Alberta shall
00:20:31.440 become a
00:20:32.120 sovereign country
00:20:33.000 and cease to
00:20:33.820 be a province
00:20:34.400 of Canada,
00:20:35.200 right?
00:20:35.780 Couldn't be
00:20:36.320 any clearer
00:20:37.460 than that.
00:20:38.140 The reason the
00:20:38.740 question is
00:20:39.240 framed that way
00:20:40.100 is that it's
00:20:41.000 a constitutional
00:20:41.820 question that
00:20:43.040 complies strictly
00:20:44.580 with section
00:20:45.740 one sub three
00:20:47.140 of the Clarity
00:20:47.960 Act, okay,
00:20:49.140 which says that
00:20:50.160 in order for a
00:20:51.060 referendum question
00:20:52.200 on secession
00:20:52.880 to be clear,
00:20:54.380 it has to
00:20:54.960 both state
00:20:55.760 that the
00:20:56.380 province wishes
00:20:57.020 to cease
00:20:57.500 being a
00:20:57.880 province of
00:20:58.500 Canada and
00:20:59.480 wishes to
00:20:59.900 become an
00:21:00.300 independent
00:21:00.680 country.
00:21:01.120 So our
00:21:01.840 province,
00:21:02.540 our question
00:21:04.320 covers off
00:21:05.400 both of those
00:21:06.120 points as
00:21:06.880 required by the
00:21:07.840 Clarity Act,
00:21:08.600 and we'll be
00:21:10.040 submitting that
00:21:10.580 question in
00:21:11.100 fairly short
00:21:11.660 order to
00:21:12.440 our member
00:21:12.820 of parliament
00:21:13.340 to be tabled
00:21:14.360 in parliament
00:21:17.140 in Ottawa.
00:21:18.080 So our
00:21:19.820 question is a
00:21:20.480 constitutional
00:21:20.940 question,
00:21:21.560 complies with
00:21:22.440 the requirements
00:21:23.840 of the Clarity
00:21:24.380 Act.
00:21:25.080 As some
00:21:25.780 people may
00:21:26.380 know,
00:21:27.040 there's kind
00:21:28.620 of a weird
00:21:29.600 political actor
00:21:31.420 running around
00:21:32.020 Alberta by the
00:21:32.780 name of
00:21:33.580 Thomas Lukasak,
00:21:35.620 Lukasik,
00:21:36.240 something like
00:21:36.720 that,
00:21:37.040 whatever.
00:21:37.440 Thomas Lukasak
00:21:38.500 just won't
00:21:39.160 go away.
00:21:39.620 There we go.
00:21:40.180 So it's not
00:21:41.400 Lukasak,
00:21:42.120 that's how I
00:21:43.500 thought it was.
00:21:43.840 Do you know
00:21:44.160 what?
00:21:44.760 Say his name
00:21:45.500 wrong,
00:21:45.940 I don't care.
00:21:46.820 I'm sure it
00:21:47.280 irritates him.
00:21:49.100 But anyway,
00:21:50.200 Little Tommy,
00:21:50.920 let's just call
00:21:51.340 him Little Tommy,
00:21:52.080 has filed a
00:21:53.440 phony petition
00:21:54.180 that says,
00:21:56.340 do you agree
00:21:56.960 that Alberta
00:21:57.640 should remain
00:21:58.260 in Canada?
00:21:59.380 And of course,
00:22:00.240 you know,
00:22:00.500 I was laughing
00:22:01.020 with my good
00:22:01.480 friend Keith
00:22:01.900 Wilson recently
00:22:02.680 because Keith
00:22:03.640 said,
00:22:04.220 yeah,
00:22:04.460 I want to
00:22:05.040 submit a
00:22:05.480 referendum
00:22:05.860 question.
00:22:06.720 And he
00:22:07.000 says,
00:22:07.180 my question
00:22:07.720 is going
00:22:08.000 to be,
00:22:08.540 do you
00:22:08.800 agree that
00:22:09.420 Alberta should
00:22:10.000 still be
00:22:10.400 called Alberta?
00:22:12.260 Right?
00:22:12.700 It basically
00:22:13.380 has the same
00:22:14.020 legal effect
00:22:14.860 as Little
00:22:16.520 Tommy's
00:22:17.140 question.
00:22:18.580 And as
00:22:20.140 far as it
00:22:20.680 goes,
00:22:21.580 that's the
00:22:22.480 problem with
00:22:23.120 Little Tommy's
00:22:23.760 program,
00:22:24.280 right?
00:22:24.440 It's a phony
00:22:24.900 question that
00:22:26.360 basically seeks
00:22:27.620 to maintain
00:22:30.340 the status quo.
00:22:32.000 Obviously,
00:22:32.640 Elections
00:22:33.040 Alberta has
00:22:34.000 not recognized
00:22:34.880 it as a
00:22:35.340 constitutional
00:22:35.960 question.
00:22:36.660 My understanding
00:22:37.360 is that
00:22:38.180 they've
00:22:38.420 recognized it
00:22:39.160 as a
00:22:39.440 non-binding
00:22:40.340 policy
00:22:41.000 question,
00:22:42.080 right?
00:22:42.880 Right.
00:22:43.540 Which,
00:22:44.200 you know,
00:22:44.500 has little
00:22:45.220 or no
00:22:45.920 effect from
00:22:47.220 a legal
00:22:47.540 perspective.
00:22:48.620 And in
00:22:48.840 fact,
00:22:49.120 because it's
00:22:49.480 a non-binding
00:22:50.200 policy
00:22:50.720 question,
00:22:52.080 you know,
00:22:52.280 various legislative
00:22:53.160 committees in
00:22:53.860 the government
00:22:54.220 of Alberta
00:22:54.720 could actually
00:22:55.180 refuse to put
00:22:55.880 it on a
00:22:56.260 ballot because
00:22:56.840 it's completely
00:22:57.380 meaningless
00:22:58.000 in the broader
00:22:59.160 scheme of
00:22:59.900 things.
00:23:00.140 But what
00:23:00.700 I think
00:23:01.080 little Tommy
00:23:01.640 and his
00:23:01.940 little pals
00:23:02.480 that I
00:23:03.600 think they
00:23:03.880 call themselves
00:23:04.460 Forever
00:23:04.860 Canada,
00:23:05.880 so,
00:23:06.580 you know,
00:23:07.280 are trying
00:23:07.680 to do,
00:23:08.600 is their
00:23:09.120 interpretation
00:23:09.980 of the,
00:23:11.160 and I think
00:23:11.440 it's the
00:23:11.680 old act that
00:23:12.480 they were
00:23:12.680 looking at,
00:23:13.160 not the
00:23:13.440 new act,
00:23:13.840 but their
00:23:14.100 interpretation
00:23:14.560 is if they
00:23:15.640 bring a
00:23:16.120 fail,
00:23:16.560 a question
00:23:17.080 and they
00:23:17.460 fail on the
00:23:18.140 question to
00:23:18.640 get the
00:23:18.940 signatures that
00:23:19.640 they require,
00:23:20.760 they think
00:23:21.400 that that will
00:23:21.960 then prevent
00:23:22.640 any question
00:23:23.820 on that subject
00:23:24.620 from ever being
00:23:25.260 asked again for
00:23:26.020 the next five
00:23:26.600 years.
00:23:26.980 So that's
00:23:28.160 his whole
00:23:28.500 plan,
00:23:28.960 is to have
00:23:29.320 this phony
00:23:29.780 referendum
00:23:30.340 question,
00:23:31.240 they're going
00:23:31.500 to send
00:23:31.740 around phony
00:23:32.240 canvassers,
00:23:32.980 they're going
00:23:33.180 to make an
00:23:33.540 attempt to
00:23:34.020 get the
00:23:34.980 300,000
00:23:35.780 signatures they
00:23:37.440 require,
00:23:38.180 and then when
00:23:38.780 they fail,
00:23:39.780 they're going
00:23:40.120 to say that
00:23:40.580 a real
00:23:41.100 question on
00:23:42.280 whether or
00:23:43.340 not Alberta
00:23:43.860 should be an
00:23:44.860 independent
00:23:45.320 country and
00:23:46.040 cease to be
00:23:46.520 a province
00:23:47.020 of Canada
00:23:47.640 will not be
00:23:49.300 able to
00:23:49.640 proceed for
00:23:50.220 another five
00:23:50.780 years.
00:23:51.500 So it's just
00:23:51.960 a game that
00:23:52.600 they're playing,
00:23:53.100 it's a silly
00:23:53.660 game, it's a
00:23:54.580 distraction,
00:23:55.800 it's exactly
00:23:56.600 what you'd
00:23:57.100 expect from
00:23:57.860 little Tommy,
00:23:58.880 I mean he
00:23:59.460 doesn't like
00:23:59.960 being out of
00:24:00.340 the public
00:24:00.700 eye, you
00:24:01.500 know when
00:24:01.700 he's not
00:24:02.040 doing that
00:24:02.540 now apparently
00:24:03.120 he's very
00:24:03.600 busy trying to
00:24:04.260 bring Sharia
00:24:04.860 law to
00:24:05.360 Alberta, I
00:24:06.060 don't know
00:24:06.280 if you're
00:24:06.500 aware of
00:24:06.900 that, but
00:24:07.340 he's started
00:24:08.560 a company to
00:24:09.360 provide quote
00:24:10.000 unquote halal
00:24:10.840 mortgages and
00:24:12.060 has been
00:24:12.380 lobbying the
00:24:13.020 Alberta
00:24:13.300 government to
00:24:14.100 bring Sharia
00:24:16.080 law into
00:24:16.940 Alberta by
00:24:18.000 statute so
00:24:18.800 that they
00:24:19.120 can have
00:24:19.500 these so
00:24:20.220 called halal
00:24:20.900 mortgages
00:24:21.600 that comply
00:24:23.920 with Sharia
00:24:24.580 law.
00:24:25.360 I mean that's
00:24:25.720 what he does
00:24:26.160 in his spare
00:24:27.140 time, so who
00:24:27.780 knows, I
00:24:28.100 mean maybe
00:24:28.420 the reason
00:24:28.880 little Tommy
00:24:29.340 thinks that
00:24:30.040 you need to
00:24:33.160 keep Alberta
00:24:33.700 and Canada
00:24:34.300 is that they're
00:24:35.240 more likely to
00:24:36.080 be able to
00:24:36.680 invoke Sharia
00:24:37.480 law in
00:24:38.040 Alberta for
00:24:38.940 part of
00:24:39.380 Canada as
00:24:40.040 opposed to
00:24:40.540 not.
00:24:41.320 I don't know
00:24:42.020 what his
00:24:42.380 motivations are
00:24:43.320 but quite
00:24:44.260 frankly I think
00:24:45.800 it's pretty
00:24:46.160 silly.
00:24:46.740 I mean the
00:24:46.940 guy grew up
00:24:47.560 in a
00:24:47.800 communist
00:24:48.140 country,
00:24:49.060 comes to
00:24:49.520 Canada and
00:24:50.520 basically loves
00:24:51.820 the fact that
00:24:52.500 Canada has
00:24:52.960 become a
00:24:53.380 communist country
00:24:54.180 and he
00:24:54.720 wants to
00:24:55.060 make sure
00:24:55.440 that his
00:24:55.780 fellow
00:24:56.040 Albertans
00:24:56.720 continue to
00:24:57.480 live under
00:24:58.420 communist rule
00:24:59.440 in Alberta
00:25:00.020 just like he
00:25:01.260 grew up when
00:25:01.900 he was a
00:25:02.260 little boy.
00:25:03.220 The whole
00:25:03.940 thing quite
00:25:06.080 frankly is
00:25:06.940 disgusting and
00:25:10.240 we don't see
00:25:11.900 it as being a
00:25:12.420 real issue or
00:25:13.040 problem for us
00:25:13.760 going forward
00:25:14.340 other than it's
00:25:15.400 a nuisance and
00:25:16.120 it's generated
00:25:16.780 discussion in
00:25:20.400 and around
00:25:20.900 in and around
00:25:22.740 the issue.
00:25:23.640 I guess we
00:25:24.000 had a press
00:25:24.360 conference recently
00:25:25.080 and the
00:25:25.360 CBC reporter
00:25:26.160 that's all she
00:25:27.080 wanted to do
00:25:27.660 was aggressively
00:25:28.360 ask questions
00:25:29.160 about little
00:25:29.600 Tommy's petition
00:25:30.460 and of course
00:25:31.520 when we
00:25:32.520 pointed out
00:25:33.100 to her as
00:25:36.740 well that
00:25:38.200 the Elections
00:25:39.340 Alberta Act
00:25:40.120 the new act
00:25:40.840 specifically
00:25:41.440 contemplates
00:25:42.340 being able to
00:25:43.540 have more
00:25:44.620 than one
00:25:45.340 citizens
00:25:46.220 initiative
00:25:46.780 petition question
00:25:47.880 going at a
00:25:48.620 time and
00:25:49.560 pointed out
00:25:50.100 that our
00:25:50.360 question was
00:25:50.940 substantially
00:25:51.540 different than
00:25:52.300 little Tommy's
00:25:53.140 even though
00:25:54.040 he's tried to
00:25:55.060 make it so
00:25:55.640 that it's
00:25:55.980 ostensibly on
00:25:56.940 the same
00:25:57.360 subject when
00:25:58.080 it's not
00:25:58.780 our petition
00:26:00.840 is for Alberta
00:26:02.160 to become a
00:26:02.760 country.
00:26:03.980 So Romania
00:26:05.040 and Canada
00:26:05.640 has nothing
00:26:06.180 to do with
00:26:06.880 whether we
00:26:07.500 become a
00:26:07.900 country or
00:26:08.380 not.
00:26:09.540 So anyway
00:26:10.960 we're dealing
00:26:11.940 with it.
00:26:12.580 It's more of
00:26:13.540 an irritant
00:26:14.120 than anything
00:26:14.580 else.
00:26:16.020 Obviously
00:26:16.620 there's a lot
00:26:17.160 of people
00:26:17.940 who just wish
00:26:18.500 that
00:26:18.840 little Tommy
00:26:21.080 would move
00:26:21.460 back to
00:26:21.860 Poland or
00:26:22.360 some other
00:26:22.720 communist
00:26:23.100 country where
00:26:23.660 he feels
00:26:24.020 more comfortable
00:26:24.600 as opposed to
00:26:25.180 staying in
00:26:25.560 Alberta.
00:26:26.080 But that's
00:26:26.760 where we're
00:26:27.060 at.
00:26:27.940 Honestly I
00:26:28.480 hope Thomas
00:26:28.960 Lukasik never
00:26:29.600 shuts up
00:26:30.180 because he
00:26:31.880 is a reminder
00:26:32.620 of the old
00:26:34.080 progressive
00:26:34.580 conservatives
00:26:35.200 that drifted
00:26:36.500 so far left
00:26:37.280 that they
00:26:37.700 delivered us
00:26:38.400 to the NDP
00:26:39.200 for four years
00:26:40.220 and destroyed
00:26:41.260 a generation
00:26:41.960 of investment
00:26:42.720 in Alberta.
00:26:44.100 He was one
00:26:45.540 of the
00:26:45.740 architects
00:26:46.140 of that
00:26:47.080 and I'm
00:26:49.340 glad that
00:26:49.800 he's reminding
00:26:50.580 people to
00:26:51.320 think about
00:26:52.020 whether or
00:26:53.200 not under
00:26:54.700 the current
00:26:55.260 deal a
00:26:56.680 2025 Alberta
00:26:58.260 would actually
00:26:59.400 join Canadian
00:27:00.780 Confederation.
00:27:01.880 That's the flip
00:27:02.720 side of his
00:27:03.800 little nuisance
00:27:04.640 question and I
00:27:07.140 think it's just
00:27:07.900 going to blow up
00:27:08.500 in his face.
00:27:09.740 Well who in
00:27:10.920 their right
00:27:11.400 mind like if
00:27:12.200 Alberta was
00:27:13.380 completely
00:27:14.080 independent
00:27:14.780 we had the
00:27:16.160 lowest taxes
00:27:16.940 and lowest
00:27:17.580 regulatory burden
00:27:18.760 of any
00:27:19.200 jurisdiction in
00:27:20.240 North America
00:27:21.000 our economy
00:27:22.820 was thriving
00:27:23.560 everybody here
00:27:25.280 lived in a
00:27:26.700 world where we
00:27:27.200 didn't have to
00:27:27.680 pay any income
00:27:28.400 tax anymore
00:27:29.280 and along came
00:27:30.620 Canada and
00:27:31.180 said hey
00:27:31.620 we'd like you
00:27:32.440 to join our
00:27:32.980 country and
00:27:34.240 the conditions
00:27:34.960 are over half
00:27:35.920 of your income
00:27:36.540 is now going
00:27:37.080 to go towards
00:27:37.680 all kinds of
00:27:38.280 taxes that we
00:27:38.920 impose we're
00:27:40.040 going to
00:27:40.260 arbitrarily impose
00:27:41.340 regulations on
00:27:42.280 you whenever
00:27:42.680 we want
00:27:43.240 including shutting
00:27:44.200 down your
00:27:44.660 industry shutting
00:27:45.400 down your
00:27:45.800 businesses taking
00:27:47.000 away property
00:27:47.820 that you own
00:27:48.480 including your
00:27:49.120 firearms you
00:27:50.260 know taxing the
00:27:51.020 equity in your
00:27:51.700 houses you know
00:27:53.460 destroying your
00:27:54.180 children by
00:27:54.920 legalizing you
00:27:56.140 know drugs that
00:27:57.500 shouldn't be
00:27:57.940 legalized without
00:27:58.880 you know on
00:28:00.240 any planet etc
00:28:02.500 etc right
00:28:03.760 what you know
00:28:05.500 what would the
00:28:05.980 answer be it
00:28:06.680 would be no
00:28:07.140 would be hell
00:28:07.660 no like are
00:28:08.240 you silly just
00:28:08.940 run away like go
00:28:09.860 away we have
00:28:10.520 nothing to do
00:28:11.480 with you you're
00:28:11.980 stupid right
00:28:13.120 but I mean why
00:28:14.220 so why do
00:28:14.780 people want to
00:28:15.360 stay in this
00:28:15.900 country like
00:28:16.600 it's you know
00:28:17.340 quite frankly
00:28:18.040 you know the
00:28:18.880 upside and that's
00:28:19.920 the other thing
00:28:20.300 with little Tommy
00:28:21.020 is that you
00:28:21.900 know you notice
00:28:22.460 that he never
00:28:23.020 talks about the
00:28:23.840 benefits of
00:28:24.460 staying in Canada
00:28:25.440 right it's just
00:28:26.980 oh I'm loyal
00:28:28.340 I'm loyal well
00:28:29.240 you know what I
00:28:29.660 have a you know
00:28:30.240 standard poodle
00:28:31.000 and my standard
00:28:31.560 poodle is really
00:28:32.240 loyal too but I
00:28:33.060 don't want her
00:28:33.480 running the
00:28:33.800 freaking I don't
00:28:34.340 want my dog
00:28:34.740 running the
00:28:35.140 country you know
00:28:36.280 what's loyalty
00:28:36.960 you know like
00:28:37.660 that's so what
00:28:38.900 you know loyal to
00:28:40.040 what loyal to you
00:28:41.120 know people that
00:28:41.740 declare the war
00:28:42.360 measures act
00:28:43.060 against us loyal
00:28:44.080 to people that
00:28:44.840 foolishly think
00:28:45.720 that taxing us to
00:28:46.920 death is going to
00:28:47.540 change the weather
00:28:48.340 you know loyal to
00:28:49.780 people that you
00:28:50.780 know start phony
00:28:51.720 trade wars with
00:28:52.580 our largest trading
00:28:53.620 partner and then
00:28:54.780 when that doesn't
00:28:55.400 go well for them
00:28:56.140 we're going to
00:28:56.440 threaten to shut
00:28:57.120 down Alberta oil
00:28:58.220 you know like
00:28:59.220 etc etc like
00:29:00.460 what loyalty do we
00:29:02.460 owe you know
00:29:03.820 this entity called
00:29:06.080 Canada I mean
00:29:06.780 effectively become
00:29:07.820 Canada Stan you
00:29:09.700 know it's not the
00:29:10.340 country that it was
00:29:11.100 when we grew up or
00:29:12.120 when I grew up and
00:29:13.420 that's what we want
00:29:14.420 to take Alberta
00:29:15.060 back to we want to
00:29:15.960 take Alberta back to
00:29:17.020 those original
00:29:17.780 Canadian values you
00:29:19.500 know we want to live
00:29:20.160 in a country where we
00:29:21.000 have low taxes where
00:29:22.000 we have low regulations
00:29:23.280 where the government
00:29:24.860 stays the hell out of
00:29:26.200 your life you know
00:29:27.960 not every time you
00:29:28.780 turn around some
00:29:29.500 bureaucrat telling you
00:29:30.520 how to live when you
00:29:31.440 could leave your home
00:29:32.300 you know how much you
00:29:33.580 know you know how
00:29:34.800 much fuel you're allowed
00:29:35.980 to burn what kind of
00:29:36.780 car you can drive I
00:29:38.440 mean what kind of you
00:29:38.980 know like who wants
00:29:39.540 to live in that
00:29:40.060 country I don't want
00:29:40.780 to live in that
00:29:41.100 country you know I
00:29:43.040 do a lot of American
00:29:43.960 media on this topic
00:29:45.460 because well a lot
00:29:48.440 of the journalists
00:29:49.300 covering this are on
00:29:50.780 the other side giving
00:29:51.640 a lot of time to
00:29:52.360 Thomas Lukasik and
00:29:53.820 not to you know the
00:29:55.560 people who are are
00:29:56.580 serious thinkers on
00:29:57.740 this issue and they
00:29:59.220 always start by saying
00:30:00.400 Canada's Texas wants
00:30:02.120 to leave Canada and I
00:30:04.060 always have to stop and
00:30:05.160 correct them and because
00:30:07.340 I want to put it into
00:30:08.200 context Texas just on
00:30:10.940 the oil issue Texas
00:30:12.220 has about 20 billion
00:30:14.600 barrels of proven
00:30:16.400 reserves Canada or
00:30:18.240 sorry Alberta between
00:30:20.020 oil sands and
00:30:20.920 conventional we've got
00:30:21.940 340 billion barrels
00:30:25.280 of proven reserves and
00:30:27.120 about 1.6 trillion
00:30:28.580 barrels if we can ever
00:30:29.680 figure out how to get
00:30:30.540 the rest of it out of
00:30:31.440 the ground our natural
00:30:32.860 gas and that's not
00:30:34.940 even including carbon
00:30:35.920 and bitumen you know
00:30:37.560 which I understand
00:30:38.160 technology is being
00:30:39.600 developed to release
00:30:40.520 you'd almost triple our
00:30:41.640 proven oil reserves
00:30:42.580 once they can release
00:30:43.800 carbon and bitumen and
00:30:45.280 then let's not forget
00:30:46.080 fast and let's not and
00:30:48.380 let's not forget about
00:30:49.280 the motley field that
00:30:50.560 was you know has just
00:30:51.380 been reassessed right
00:30:53.340 at 400 trillion cubic feet
00:30:56.800 of natural gas I mean
00:30:58.540 hell we don't even have
00:30:59.340 to export natural gas we
00:31:01.080 can build a giant cogen
00:31:02.680 plant up near Grand
00:31:04.320 Prairie that could power
00:31:06.060 one of the largest AI and
00:31:08.760 data hubs in the world
00:31:10.820 for a thousand years or
00:31:12.780 more on the you know on
00:31:14.560 the amount of gas that's
00:31:15.920 that's in that's going to
00:31:17.680 be released from the
00:31:18.440 motley field so I mean
00:31:20.120 Alberta doesn't need
00:31:21.140 anybody you know to
00:31:23.220 to prosper and to go
00:31:24.540 forward you know we
00:31:26.320 just need to keep doing
00:31:27.600 our you know keep doing
00:31:28.420 what we're doing well
00:31:30.260 and then we have 800
00:31:31.300 years of clean burning
00:31:32.460 coal under our feet that
00:31:33.600 the feds won't let us
00:31:34.700 use so when you explain
00:31:37.500 that to Americans in that
00:31:39.280 context where you say
00:31:40.400 look we're so much
00:31:41.760 bigger we are so much
00:31:43.620 wealth here we're not
00:31:44.800 even taking into account
00:31:45.860 food and lumber and beef
00:31:47.340 and the coal we're not
00:31:49.380 allowed to use just on
00:31:50.440 the oil issue we are not
00:31:53.060 paid the respect we
00:31:54.200 deserve within
00:31:55.320 confederation you look at
00:31:56.700 this respect that is
00:31:57.920 paid to Texas within the
00:32:00.920 United States I mean
00:32:02.380 nothing's bigger than
00:32:04.900 Texas right but yet in
00:32:06.420 Canada Albertans were
00:32:08.000 talked down and we're so
00:32:10.340 much bigger when it comes
00:32:11.360 to well landmass we're
00:32:13.300 almost as big as Texas
00:32:14.620 Texas is I think it's
00:32:16.640 too very comparable to
00:32:18.500 yeah 200 and no yeah
00:32:20.540 to 265,000 square miles
00:32:23.720 Alberta is like 100 or
00:32:25.480 255,000 square miles so I
00:32:27.800 think we're only off by
00:32:28.680 about about 10,000 square
00:32:30.340 miles we're twice the size
00:32:31.420 of California if we're not
00:32:33.740 advocating joining the US
00:32:34.960 but if we were a US state
00:32:36.580 we would be the third
00:32:37.880 largest state after Alaska
00:32:39.400 and Texas and only by a
00:32:40.600 small margin behind Texas
00:32:42.000 and like you say our oil
00:32:43.500 reserves dwarf the oil
00:32:44.980 reserves of Texas and our
00:32:46.500 gas reserves dwarf the
00:32:48.140 gas reserves of the entire
00:32:50.840 continental United States
00:32:52.260 just in Alberta so you
00:32:54.920 know we're obviously you
00:32:56.140 know you know obviously a
00:32:58.420 very viable independent
00:32:59.700 country as you know and I
00:33:01.140 think a lot of other
00:33:01.800 people know you know
00:33:03.300 members of our group have
00:33:04.320 gone down to Washington
00:33:05.300 and we've met with
00:33:06.400 American officials in the
00:33:08.040 Trump administration at a
00:33:09.200 very high level they're
00:33:11.100 excited about Alberta
00:33:12.160 independence they support
00:33:13.360 Alberta independence and
00:33:15.140 you know of course you
00:33:16.420 know both from a national
00:33:17.380 security perspective and a
00:33:18.800 national you know energy
00:33:20.700 security perspective I mean
00:33:22.540 the Americans it's not in
00:33:24.040 their national interest to
00:33:25.340 have a communist party of
00:33:26.680 China adjacent government in
00:33:28.380 Ottawa arbitrarily capping
00:33:31.000 Alberta oil and gas
00:33:32.420 production but you know
00:33:33.480 through you know either
00:33:34.660 directly or through emissions
00:33:36.720 caps which are ridiculous and
00:33:38.920 then you know I don't know if
00:33:39.600 you saw it the other day
00:33:40.440 Daniel Smith signed some
00:33:42.120 stupid MOU with the Doug
00:33:43.880 Ford and it's like you know
00:33:45.860 oh yeah we're gonna you
00:33:46.820 know Doug Ford supports
00:33:47.720 pipelines Doug Ford would
00:33:48.960 like more Alberta oil coming
00:33:50.180 to Ontario refineries
00:33:51.200 Ontario refineries why the
00:33:53.520 hell aren't we building
00:33:54.400 Alberta refineries why are
00:33:56.420 we why are we shipping oil by
00:33:58.300 pipeline to you know to
00:34:00.260 Ontario to benefit the
00:34:01.640 Ontario economy you know we
00:34:03.340 need to be you know harnessing
00:34:04.860 the wealth of Alberta and you
00:34:07.120 know and building refineries in
00:34:09.420 Alberta instead of subsidizing
00:34:11.640 battery plants bug plant you
00:34:14.140 know battery plants and bug
00:34:15.500 plants in Ontario you know
00:34:17.040 paying 40 billion dollars for
00:34:18.920 Trudeau's little electric
00:34:20.020 Cheechy twain that he wanted to
00:34:22.000 run between Montreal and
00:34:23.480 Toronto or hydrogen plants in
00:34:25.960 Newfoundland like why are we as
00:34:27.900 Alberta taxpayers subsidizing
00:34:30.060 those projects when we should be
00:34:32.180 doubling or tripling our
00:34:33.420 refinery capacity in this
00:34:35.440 province through private public
00:34:37.800 partnerships so that we don't
00:34:39.720 have to ship oil by pipeline we
00:34:41.480 can ship finished products like
00:34:42.820 diesel and gasoline you know out
00:34:44.860 of Alberta you know that's what
00:34:46.480 that's what Alberta needs to
00:34:47.680 focus on
00:34:48.400 you know I think somebody might
00:34:51.780 have showed Doug Ford where line
00:34:54.240 five and line nine go because I
00:34:57.320 remember at the beginning of the
00:34:58.860 trade dispute with the Americans
00:35:02.720 Doug Ford was like we're gonna
00:35:04.060 turn off oil to the United States
00:35:06.280 we gotta really fight them we gotta
00:35:07.440 really screw them it's like we
00:35:08.820 will go to the full extent
00:35:10.420 depending on how far this goes we
00:35:12.900 will go to the extent of cutting
00:35:14.780 off their energy going down to
00:35:16.700 Michigan going down to New York
00:35:18.060 State and over to Wisconsin I don't
00:35:20.400 want this to happen but my number
00:35:22.960 one job is to protect Ontario
00:35:24.900 Ontarians and Canadians as a as a
00:35:28.460 whole since we're the largest
00:35:29.520 province first of all it's our oil
00:35:32.480 will sell it why apparently because
00:35:35.440 the East needs all of our money but
00:35:37.860 he didn't even think that turning
00:35:40.200 off oil to the United States meant
00:35:41.960 turning it off through line nine and
00:35:44.440 five which flow through the United
00:35:47.760 States and back up it oh I know it's
00:35:49.640 just ridiculous I've been making now he's in
00:35:52.040 favor of pipelines so much fun of them
00:35:54.360 ever since right and what I always is
00:35:55.960 there's little you know there you know
00:35:57.740 there you know there's little Doug Ford
00:35:59.880 jumping up and down and getting red in
00:36:01.520 the face we're gonna shut off American
00:36:03.300 oil then well hey Doug like line five
00:36:05.960 line nine you're shutting off
00:36:07.260 Alberta oil but yeah yeah yeah so it's
00:36:09.740 like Doug Ford was literally
00:36:10.820 advocating what Ralph Klein was
00:36:12.380 talking about years ago which is
00:36:13.760 letting the Eastern Bastards freeze in
00:36:15.360 the dark yeah and Doug Ford except he
00:36:17.300 didn't know he didn't know he was the
00:36:19.500 Eastern Bastard he didn't Doug Ford
00:36:21.520 didn't realize he was the guy no and
00:36:24.000 even that idiot Stéphane Gibault didn't
00:36:26.820 know that there were there were no East
00:36:28.840 to West pipelines across Canada
00:36:30.480 supplying Alberta oil directly to
00:36:32.640 Ontario and Quebec he didn't know it
00:36:34.140 went through the states either so you
00:36:36.020 look pretty foolish and then did you
00:36:37.700 notice after you know after a little
00:36:39.380 Dougie Ford you know jumped up and
00:36:41.200 down he's gonna shut off Alberta oil
00:36:42.480 but when he's told he can't do that he
00:36:43.840 goes okay we're gonna shut off
00:36:45.360 Saskatchewan potash their crops will be
00:36:47.740 withering in the fields American crops
00:36:49.620 will be withering in the fields at no
00:36:51.380 point did he say hey I'm gonna teach
00:36:53.660 the Americans a lesson on the
00:36:55.200 integration of the U.S. automobile
00:36:57.460 industry I'm gonna shut down our parts
00:37:00.160 plants for two weeks and bring the
00:37:02.280 entire all vehicle production in North
00:37:05.580 America to a shuttering halt you know
00:37:07.740 never once did Doug Ford say anything
00:37:10.620 that would threaten the interests of
00:37:11.880 Ontarians but that's that's the whole
00:37:13.780 problem with Confederation you know the
00:37:15.800 entire country is run you know by the
00:37:18.300 East for the benefit of the East you
00:37:20.440 know at the you know to the detriment of
00:37:22.100 everybody in you know Manitoba Alberta
00:37:24.080 Saskatchewan and British Columbia they
00:37:26.020 treat us like we're you know a
00:37:27.260 colonized people and we are colonies
00:37:29.800 that are just meant to send money to
00:37:31.860 them while they tell us what to do
00:37:33.880 that's been the relationship since the
00:37:35.880 start of Confederation you know the
00:37:37.620 Maritimes right Senate seats
00:37:39.360 Nova Scotia 10 Senate seats New
00:37:43.060 Brunswick 10 Senate seats PEI four
00:37:45.600 Senate seats Newfoundland six Senate
00:37:48.100 seats so you take all of the Maritimes
00:37:50.280 combined they have half of the
00:37:52.460 population of Alberta but they have 30
00:37:55.080 Senate seats so five times the Senate
00:37:57.700 seats of Alberta who only has six
00:37:59.800 Senate seats think you know think
00:38:01.640 about that right Supreme Court of
00:38:03.320 Canada Ontario has three Quebec has
00:38:05.760 three Maritimes has one the whole West
00:38:08.160 BC Alberta Saskatchewan and Manitoba have
00:38:11.180 two seats on the Supreme Court so is it
00:38:13.680 any wonder when we go to the Supreme
00:38:15.400 Court on a division of powers issue we
00:38:17.600 get kicked in the teeth right this entire
00:38:20.480 country is run on behalf of Central
00:38:23.300 Canada for their benefit and our
00:38:25.540 detriment and you know people really
00:38:28.000 need to internalize the value of
00:38:29.960 freedom and understand how wealthy and
00:38:32.580 how much better off we are going to be
00:38:34.600 when we don't have to pay any more
00:38:36.160 federal income tax we have no more you
00:38:38.460 know federal regulations imposed on us
00:38:40.820 at whim you know by some prime
00:38:43.460 minister who wakes up in the middle of
00:38:45.000 the night you know dreaming about you
00:38:47.060 know how scared he is of firearms and
00:38:48.860 he's going to take everybody's guns
00:38:50.100 away or you know whatever the stupid
00:38:52.040 idea is that comes out of Ottawa next
00:38:54.040 right you know it's just time for
00:38:56.140 everybody to internalize the fact that
00:38:57.880 there is nothing that Daniel Smith can
00:39:00.440 do by memorandum of understanding or
00:39:02.660 agreement or that Mark Carney can
00:39:04.720 promise Alberta that is more valuable
00:39:07.260 to Albertans than just getting the hell
00:39:09.700 out of Canada and no longer being
00:39:11.640 subject to federal regulation or federal
00:39:13.540 taxation you know one fact that you said
00:39:17.340 there really sort of jarred me and it's
00:39:19.960 the Senate seats for PEI to put that
00:39:22.800 into context PEI has the population of
00:39:25.660 roughly Sherwood Park and Red Deer
00:39:27.440 combined no no no I think I think I just
00:39:30.460 don't don't have Sherwood Park I think
00:39:31.840 they have the population of Red Deer so
00:39:33.640 it's like the equivalent of Red Deer having
00:39:35.240 four Senate seats well I have just as of
00:39:39.300 April 1st 2025 the population of Prince
00:39:41.540 Edward Island is 180,000 I think Sherwood Park
00:39:45.640 is at a 80,000 plus the county and then
00:39:49.840 Red Deer is at a hundred thousand so
00:39:51.920 I just was googling it out of the corner of my mind
00:39:57.760 PEI's population has jumped in the last
00:40:00.460 year or two because last time I looked at
00:40:02.600 PEI there were less than 150,000 people but
00:40:05.540 they still have four Senate seats right yeah
00:40:08.500 they have four seats and they're this
00:40:10.500 mid-sized Alberta cities and you can't
00:40:13.500 count Sherwood Park as a city but and they
00:40:16.100 get four Senate seats which should just
00:40:19.240 outrage people about the unfairness of
00:40:21.880 Confederation now Jeff I could talk to
00:40:23.680 you and complain about Confederation all
00:40:25.480 day long but I know you have another
00:40:27.060 interview and I also have another video to
00:40:30.680 get to tell people how they can learn more
00:40:33.260 about the work the APP is doing because not
00:40:36.200 only are you publishing these documents but
00:40:40.100 you're also holding town hall information
00:40:42.400 sessions that are sold out all over the
00:40:44.300 place yeah sure go to albertaprosperityproject.com
00:40:48.940 I'm going to be appearing or I'll be speaking
00:40:51.820 in Spruce Grove on the 10th and Fort
00:40:56.520 Saskatchewan on the 11th it's all up on the
00:40:58.660 website albertaprosperity.com and there is
00:41:02.420 a copy of the value of freedom there for
00:41:05.720 everybody to download at no cost to
00:41:08.720 yourselves and please read it because it
00:41:11.000 shows that there is a very very strong and
00:41:14.560 beautiful future for all of us outside of
00:41:16.540 Canada and and just hear for me that the
00:41:19.220 number of the numbers are extremely
00:41:21.040 conservative and on the basis of Alberta's
00:41:24.080 last budget our fiscal capacity surplus
00:41:26.880 numbers are low by 15 billion dollars so I'd
00:41:30.320 like everybody to internalize that and thank
00:41:32.420 you very much for having me on Sheila it's
00:41:34.700 always such a pleasure to talk to you and
00:41:36.120 thank you very much
00:41:36.900 Jeff thanks so much for thinking about
00:41:40.440 these things because you know a lot of
00:41:43.160 people are dissatisfied with the state of
00:41:46.060 confederation but you're actually providing
00:41:48.880 some answers and at least then however the
00:41:52.640 vote falls down at least then people are well
00:41:55.380 informed when they make their decision and
00:41:57.180 and I think that is an invaluable service
00:42:00.240 that you folks at the Alberta Prosperity
00:42:01.920 Project are providing Jeff I will have you
00:42:04.880 back on again very soon because I think
00:42:07.180 that there's going to be a lot of news
00:42:09.500 going forward hey no and the other thing
00:42:12.960 is in three weeks we're going to be
00:42:14.340 releasing an interim constitution for the
00:42:19.140 province of Alberta so people can see that
00:42:21.580 in an independent Alberta we're actually
00:42:23.500 going to have rights and not privileges that
00:42:25.920 can be taken away by government bureaucrats
00:42:27.920 at whim so anyway we're very excited about
00:42:30.300 that as well we're working on that that'll
00:42:31.980 be the next rollout and I'll look forward
00:42:33.860 to talking to you about that as well so
00:42:35.620 thank you perfect put it on the calendar
00:42:37.880 Jeff we'll talk then thank you you bet
00:42:39.900 thanks Sheila all right over now
00:42:41.360 well we've come to the portion of the show
00:42:50.280 wherein I invite your viewer feedback because
00:42:52.920 without you not only is there no gun show but
00:42:56.920 there's no rebel news and I I say that now
00:42:59.800 more than ever because for the last few weeks I've
00:43:02.840 been relying on your emails and your letters and
00:43:05.680 questions to me to help me put a show together
00:43:07.720 because I've been so busy and my schedule has been
00:43:11.080 so tight that I just haven't been able to book
00:43:14.800 a guest and it is the also the the doldrums of
00:43:17.900 summer where a lot of people are out doing summer
00:43:22.840 holidays things and my usual guests and so they're not
00:43:26.780 always available to me but this week I was able to bring
00:43:30.260 in Jeffrey Rath on a very timely issue on his new fiscal
00:43:34.920 plan for a free and independent Alberta so I'm grateful
00:43:37.740 for that I'm grateful for his time and I'm I'm glad as
00:43:42.300 much as I am grateful to read your viewer feedback I'm sort
00:43:45.480 of glad to get back into the swing of things so thank you all
00:43:48.060 of you for bearing with me but that also means that we go
00:43:51.980 back to your viewer feedback being in the last segment of
00:43:55.580 the show and there are a few different ways where you can
00:43:57.660 get your viewer feedback to me you can send it directly to
00:44:00.140 me via email it's Sheila at rebel news dot com super easy put
00:44:06.300 gun show letters in the subject line I'll know why you're
00:44:08.680 writing me and who knows you might just see it read on air but
00:44:13.400 also if you are watching free clips of the show or even better
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00:44:26.660 know what people are thinking about what lives behind the
00:44:30.440 paywall right so do that encourage them to leave comments
00:44:35.200 leave comments yourself it helps us get around the algorithm
00:44:37.700 but I also go and I read those comments I appreciate your
00:44:41.060 feedback will never take a penny from Mark Carney and so I need
00:44:46.360 to evaluate what you think about the work that we're doing and
00:44:50.140 the stories that we're covering and and the people that we
00:44:53.240 talk about so please do that for me and leaving those comments is
00:44:57.140 totally free so in one of my I think it was last week's letters
00:45:03.360 segment I received a letter from a former sadly RCMP officer and he
00:45:10.980 had been forced out of the RCMP because of the vaccine mandate in
00:45:15.640 fact he had been placed on leave without pay so he went and got
00:45:22.080 another job to support his family and then the RCMP brought
00:45:27.180 him back and then basically strong-armed him into a
00:45:33.120 resignation or he quit so I find this stuff horribly
00:45:38.900 distressing because those are the kind of people we want in
00:45:42.920 our public institutions the people who with a strong moral code who
00:45:47.320 are above coercion those are the people we want to put into
00:45:51.020 positions of leadership in the military in the RCMP who who have a
00:45:55.320 strong sense of right and wrong and and human rights and yet all
00:45:59.220 those people were sort of forced out of the military and the RCMP
00:46:05.960 because of the vaccine mandate and it it makes me very sad and makes
00:46:12.360 me very worried about our public institutions going forward you know I
00:46:19.120 know a lot of people took the vaccine against unemployment and I don't begrudge
00:46:26.320 them that at all but I think people should have been given a choice and many
00:46:32.660 weren't and so anyways I read that letter on air it's like four or five
00:46:39.440 minutes and responded to it and it was just sort of crushing what they put him
00:46:45.180 through after what appears to be many many years of loyal service to the RCMP
00:46:55.660 and to Canadians and so I thought I would see what you guys were saying about
00:47:03.660 that story because that story really bothered me it still bothers me I still
00:47:08.060 think about it um Judith Grimes 174 writes God bless you Andrew thank you for
00:47:14.900 your years of service sorry you were treated like a criminal completely
00:47:20.440 Willem Feather 2655 says we want people in leadership with a strong moral code
00:47:28.740 bingo yes yeah and we have people now who unquestioningly imposed on other
00:47:38.560 people something which at the end of the day at the very least was ineffective and at
00:47:46.240 worst for some ended up being quite harmful
00:47:49.060 Bonnie Peters 8576 says sounds like what happened to me when working in a long-term care facility
00:47:59.360 was escorted out for non-compliance to a vaccine
00:48:03.880 Sharoon Line 532 says this happened to a lot of long-serving Canadian Forces members
00:48:17.720 forced into becoming vets all because they refused to get the jab some of those stories
00:48:22.720 um about what happened to those members of the Canadian Forces are atrocious pregnant
00:48:30.140 members being coerced at their homes into getting the vaccine like women who said
00:48:39.520 I'll get it just let me deliver my baby and that wasn't good enough for the chain of command
00:48:46.740 I know that um Valor Legal is still pursuing uh a lawsuit against the federal government
00:48:55.660 for what happened there uh you on you I on I guess it says unions are just as complicit in this
00:49:07.340 for not sticking up for the workers never forget how they treated us in our very own country that is
00:49:12.740 true a lot of people thought workers stood for you uh workers like that thought unions stood for
00:49:23.680 workers rights and they would take the side of the worker in a workplace dispute but that is not what
00:49:28.880 happened many unions took the side of the government and the employer in contrary to their obligations
00:49:38.480 to act on behalf of the worker and it just is proof positive to my point that many of these unions are just
00:49:49.600 uh forced NDP clubs that you have to pay union dues into against your will they don't actually care about
00:49:59.580 the worker they care about the politics of the NDP and the NDP were very pro-vaccination pro-control
00:50:08.020 and uh if the rights of the worker ended up on the wrong side of the NDP
00:50:15.640 union viewpoint well then they didn't help you at all at all
00:50:22.780 um maple hornet 416 and this will be the last one says it's bizarre that federally regulated
00:50:38.760 government departments were not all consistent with regard to covid mandate requirements even though
00:50:43.980 they all share the same overall policies this was true I work in a large federally regulated company
00:50:51.000 in Canada and through a carefully composed letter with scientific proof to my HR department I was
00:50:58.880 able to forego vaccination as long as I was tested once a week at the company oddly some friends of
00:51:04.440 mine were also able to forego vaccination and were able to remain in the armed forces it probably had
00:51:10.300 more to do with tyrannical bosses than overall policies for some people a simple no was all they needed
00:51:15.840 and they could remain in their jobs and others the mere threat of refusing a vaccine could ensure
00:51:20.840 a dismissal I remain unvaccinated to this day yeah a lot of it was arbitrary I mean all of it was
00:51:27.600 arbitrary hindsight being 2020 although people could thinking people could clearly see how crazy it was
00:51:34.840 at the time like if you went counterclockwise in the grocery store you would catch the deadly
00:51:44.720 black death and die but if you went clockwise with the arrows you were safe if you sat down in the bar you
00:51:56.440 didn't need your mask if you stood up the plague would get you so stupid privacy didn't exist you had to tell
00:52:06.780 your bartender your medical status before he poured you a Coors Light like it's just the stupidest thing and a lot of
00:52:16.500 people saw it for what it was at the time a lot of people saw well vitamin D is one of the key drivers of human
00:52:25.160 immunity but they wanted to keep us all inside they locked up the national park next door just madness anyways yeah it came
00:52:34.400 down to uh whatever crazy person was your boss basically and if you had a crazy person who was
00:52:41.440 your boss they would take this opportunity to seize the power they so thirsted for over your life
00:52:48.360 and if you had a normal reasonable person as your boss they looked at you and said
00:52:53.220 okay fine you have a vaccine exemption perf none of my business we checked that box let's carry on
00:53:03.080 those were the good people in the machinery and we should appreciate them because they probably were
00:53:09.540 working in very difficult conditions those bosses um but those other ones you're monsters I hope you
00:53:17.640 know it maybe they will someday anyways I'm going to take every opportunity I can to remind them what
00:53:24.020 monsters they were um and I hope you do too well everybody that's the show for tonight thank you so much
00:53:28.940 for tuning in I'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week
00:53:32.620 actually I don't know where I'll be but uh I promise as always you'll have a show
00:53:36.300 and remember don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think
00:53:40.500 you
00:54:01.740 you
00:54:02.260 you