Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Justin Trudeau is attempting the single largest gun ban in Canadian history

00:00:00.000 Justin Trudeau is attempting the single largest gun ban in Canadian history.

00:00:04.980 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gun Show.

00:00:07.480 The Gun Show.

00:00:37.480 The law that bans the sale and transfer of handguns will directly attack hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Canadian firearms owners.

00:00:48.560 These amendments will outlaw, quote, a firearm that is a rifle or shotgun that is capable of discharging centre fire ammunition in a semi-automatic manner

00:00:59.720 and that is designed to accept a detachable cartridge magazine with a capacity greater than five cartridges of the type for which the firearm was originally designed.

00:01:10.760 Now, this ban includes the popular and affordable SKS with around 200,000 estimated Canadian owners of that model.

00:01:21.340 It also includes almost all hunting rifles with the exception of a few shotguns designed for duck hunting.

00:01:26.920 Now, it's not entirely clear how the RCMP will enforce Trudeau's changes through confiscation,

00:01:32.600 since the police force has no reliable data on where these previously completely unrestricted firearms are.

00:01:39.520 So joining me tonight to discuss the latest attacks on the law-abiding Canadian firearms-owning community

00:01:45.320 is Rick Igersich, president of Canada's National Firearms Association.

00:01:51.300 Take a listen.

00:01:58.640 So joining me now is Rick Igersich, the president of Canada's National Firearms Association,

00:02:04.520 to, first of all, break down what Trudeau's latest attacks on the law-abiding Canadian firearms-owning community mean for the rest of us.

00:02:14.620 And then we'll get into why he thinks this is happening.

00:02:18.160 Rick, thanks for coming on the show and taking the time to explain all of this.

00:02:21.940 As you and I were talking sort of off camera before we started rolling,

00:02:26.220 us gun owners, sometimes it does feel like we speak a little bit of a different language

00:02:30.040 to people who are unfamiliar with firearms.

00:02:31.960 So why don't you break down for us what the latest gun ban is?

00:02:37.800 Because we've already sort of lived through the grandfathering out of our handguns.

00:02:43.340 Now we've moved on to hunting rifles.

00:02:46.940 Yes, we have.

00:02:48.180 Hi, Sheila.

00:02:48.980 Thanks for having me on your show.

00:02:50.560 I appreciate that.

00:02:52.580 You know what?

00:02:53.240 This is a whole thing.

00:02:54.600 Bill C-21.

00:02:55.720 It started off as another series of Justin Trudeau's assaults against Canadians' personal property.

00:03:04.020 And, you know, the key parts of the bill were complete.

00:03:06.480 First of all, it started off as a complete ban on all transfers of handguns.

00:03:11.760 So basically what that was, handguns, once you were in possession of a handgun and it was registered to you,

00:03:16.880 it couldn't go anywhere until you died.

00:03:20.540 Then it went back to the government for, actually it was seized by the government for destruction.

00:03:27.100 So basically you couldn't air your handguns to anybody.

00:03:31.660 You couldn't sell them.

00:03:32.260 You couldn't trade them.

00:03:32.900 You couldn't give them to anybody.

00:03:34.140 You know, family members or anybody else were excluded from this.

00:03:36.480 So that's how it all started.

00:03:38.760 You know, then they put a ban on all handguns coming into Canada.

00:03:43.700 They did that by ministerial powers.

00:03:46.040 They didn't even, that wasn't incorporated into the ordering council.

00:03:49.680 They did that by ministerial powers.

00:03:52.100 And, you know, the initial parts of the bill, there was a bunch of ridiculous magazine capacity restrictions that were all tacked onto it.

00:03:59.620 You know, the classic thing, you know, the Liberals draw up a bill, then they add a bunch of hidden parts to it.

00:04:04.840 And then the talk of the town the last week or so, at the 11th hour, the whole thing snowballed.

00:04:12.900 First, the Liberals, they added Amendment G4, which is their so-called Evergreen Program,

00:04:19.960 which supposedly defines prohibited firearms and magazines in Canada.

00:04:25.820 And, you know, they tacked that on at the last minute.

00:04:28.900 Then when we thought that, then when we thought it couldn't get any worse, they added an Amendment G46,

00:04:35.460 which attached the original May 2020 Order and Council ban list to Bill C-21,

00:04:41.900 plus another 430 centerfire hunting rifles and shotguns, plus variants.

00:04:49.400 And the key word on that is variants, because there is no definition of a variant.

00:04:54.640 But the Liberals use it as a political term.

00:04:57.640 So we don't even know what, besides the 430 firearms they added to the list, the variants are.

00:05:05.780 So anyway, at the end of the day, you know, just to lay it out for everyday Canadians,

00:05:10.940 they did this, in my opinion, they did this for several reasons.

00:05:13.940 You know, the number one reason, you know, it's the classic Liberal move to get the heat off themselves 0.75

00:05:21.120 when they're starting to feel it in Ottawa.

00:05:25.500 And this is for a variety of reasons.

00:05:27.920 Number one, the Arrive Can app scandal.

00:05:31.580 You know, the exploitation of the tragedy in Nova Scotia for political gain.

00:05:38.680 Something that you guys have really been involved in,

00:05:40.940 the Emergency Measures Act that Justin Trudeau put in place in Ottawa during the trucker convoy protest.

00:05:48.680 The Bitcoin scandal involving several MPs.

00:05:54.680 You know, this is another diversion to get the heat off the Liberal Party.

00:05:59.660 And in my opinion, the two biggest reasons,

00:06:02.180 by attaching the original Ordering Council plus these other hunting firearms to Bill C-21,

00:06:11.800 that's basically going to null and void all the court cases that have been filed,

00:06:17.060 including the one the NFA is funding.

00:06:18.760 So, if this bill becomes law, all those court cases will be nullified and they will no longer exist

00:06:28.640 because there was a lot of holes in the Ordering Council and they knew that.

00:06:33.520 And so, I think this is a reason they attach it to the bill.

00:06:38.060 But the big thing, too, is when they attached the original Ordering Council to this bill

00:06:44.600 and with the other 430 firearms that they just pulled out of the blue,

00:06:48.980 they did not talk about any sort of buyback or compensation for these firearms.

00:06:54.260 So, I think the Liberals realized that this was going to cost them billions of dollars.

00:06:58.480 So, in their Justin Trudeau's twisted wisdom, he decided he was going to attach this to this bill

00:07:06.340 to save billions of dollars in his already over-excessive spending.

00:07:16.720 So, you know, that's basically my take on it.

00:07:20.400 And I hope everyday Canadians can understand that this is more than just about firearms.

00:07:25.140 This is the government, you know, seizing your personal property.

00:07:30.600 It goes well beyond firearms.

00:07:33.680 You know, what's next?

00:07:34.380 What's next?

00:07:34.820 Hunting knives?

00:07:36.320 What's next?

00:07:36.900 White vans?

00:07:38.160 You know, it's a definite overreach by the Liberals.

00:07:42.900 And, you know, we at the NFA, you know, we're going to do everything we can to prevent this from happening.

00:07:48.300 Right now, we're working with our legal team.

00:07:52.240 And I don't have a lot to comment on that.

00:07:54.360 We're keeping our cards fairly close to our chest because we don't want them to get a hint of what we're doing.

00:08:00.320 So, we're definitely working in the background.

00:08:03.880 And just when it comes to light of what we're going to do, we're definitely going to release it to everybody.

00:08:08.500 Yeah, it does feel like the Liberals are scapegoating the most law-abiding part of society, statistically speaking, to distract from their own scandals.

00:08:17.540 I think you're right there.

00:08:18.820 But from the very beginning, I mean, it was a lie from the very beginning.

00:08:23.500 And it was wrong from the very beginning because in that first order in council that banned 1,500 popular models of Canadian firearms, including a 410 bird gun that its biggest crime was looking cool on that one.

00:08:40.120 But they said from the very beginning, this is about getting military-grade assault weaponry away from the people who shouldn't have it.

00:08:50.840 And they kept saying this is not an attack on hunters and sports shooters.

00:08:54.380 We will never touch those guns.

00:08:56.340 This isn't about that.

00:08:57.340 But then when they include centerfire in this, it touches all of those.

00:09:01.840 This is a direct attack on hunters and sports shooters.

00:09:06.380 Although, I mean, it always was before.

00:09:08.440 But now we're specifically targeting those rifles.

00:09:12.060 Can you explain to, again, the people who may not know a lot about firearms, what it means by targeting the centerfire rifles?

00:09:20.320 Okay, you know, in the original, I see most of those rifles, except for a few .22 rimfire rifles, were all centerfire rifles.

00:09:29.580 But now, I think more than centerfire, I think what they're targeting now is hunting rifles, hunting and sporting rifles.

00:09:37.240 Centerfire rifle is just the type of cartridge that is fired with a firing pin into a primer or the center of the cartridge, which really doesn't really come into play a lot.

00:09:48.600 But I think our focus needs to be more towards the hunting rifles.

00:09:52.540 Yep.

00:09:52.960 You know, they're banning rifles that were built for nothing more than hunting or sport shooting.

00:09:59.380 And by doing that, they, you know, some of these rifles have different configurations.

00:10:06.760 And so, if you take a basic centerfire, I'll use, I'll actually use a rimfire, for example, a Ruger 10-22 rimfire, which is probably the most common .22 farmers rifle in Canada right now.

00:10:19.180 You know, and you put a different stock on it with a grip that's more ergonomic so your wife or your young children can shoot it better because of smaller frames.

00:10:28.320 Then all of a sudden, well, it looks like an assault rifle.

00:10:31.380 So, let's add that to the wrist or add that to the list.

00:10:34.340 Which, sorry to interrupt you, I think that's exactly what they did with the Mini 14 with the Ranch rifle.

00:10:40.080 It looked cool, it was reliable, it was, you know, great for small predator control, and they banned it because it has the ability to look cool after the fact.

00:10:50.400 You know, and that's actually a better example, Sheila.

00:10:52.700 Thanks for that.

00:10:53.480 You know, the Ruger Ranch rifle.

00:10:55.260 You know, it was a semi-automatic centerfire rifle that, by Canadian law, is limited to five rounds magazine capacity.

00:11:06.140 And all of a sudden, overnight, the thing becomes a dreaded assault weapon.

00:11:12.040 You know, you look up assault weapon in the dictionary, there's no such thing.

00:11:15.100 You know, just like their use of assault weapon and variant.

00:11:19.040 You know, this glass of water could be an assault weapon if one used it in that direction.

00:11:25.840 And, yeah, you know, and it just, you know, I don't know what their train of thought is, but actually, I do know what their train of thought is.

00:11:32.040 It's just, you know, they're just going to overwhelm the public, starting with firearms owners and branching out from there, by all these terms and all these things.

00:11:43.000 And, you know, my people have been telling me there's a potential election in the spring.

00:11:48.720 So, you know, all this stuff always happens.

00:11:53.480 They always use the firearms owners as a wedge issue every time.

00:11:58.520 The last two elections, it's the same old song and dance from Justin Trudeau's Liberals.

00:12:05.040 But I think people are starting to realize that, you know what, there's more to this because every time the heat's on them or there's an election, you know, there's an election in the near future, they start dumping on firearms owners.

00:12:18.600 And I think people are starting to realize that and, you know, they're not going to let it, they're not going to let it become a wedge issue this time, in my opinion.

00:12:26.660 You know, and they did this in such a sinister way.

00:12:29.020 That amendment wasn't like a one-line amendment.

00:12:31.880 It was a 478-page amendment to an existing law or a law that they were working on.

00:12:38.960 And you and I, again, we were talking off camera that they're catching the SKS in this.

00:12:45.240 And so people will say, who cares about the SKS?

00:12:48.080 Well, the SKS is pretty old.

00:12:50.560 It's Soviet-designed.

00:12:53.100 And it's basically a Soviet-designed surplus rifle.

00:12:57.300 But the thing about the SKS is it's cheap.

00:13:00.440 It's a gun show rifle.

00:13:01.940 You know, you go to the gun show, you can pick up an SKS for pretty cheap.

00:13:05.220 They're pretty customizable.

00:13:07.720 And what I mean by...

00:13:11.960 And there's millions of them in Canada.

00:13:13.680 Well, yeah, they say there are about 200,000.

00:13:17.160 But the point I was trying, I'm definitely sure there's more.

00:13:21.120 And how could they ever know?

00:13:22.520 And that's the point I'm trying to make, is this bill or this amendment is just a bunch

00:13:27.480 of pointless virtue signaling.

00:13:28.900 Because how the hell are you ever going to find all those?

00:13:31.460 Because they've moved them from non-restricted to banned.

00:13:36.300 So you have no record of where any of those are.

00:13:40.540 So what do you want the RCMP to do now, Justin Trudeau?

00:13:43.040 Go around kicking in doors of anybody who holds a PAL to see if they have an SKS?

00:13:48.620 I mean, think about the implications of this here.

00:13:51.680 Yeah, you know, and the thing is, too, you know, and the alleged original fire long gun

00:13:59.280 registry, which was supposed to disappear 10 years ago, apparently it's still around.

00:14:04.340 You know, Quebec's using it.

00:14:05.600 So in my opinion, it's pretty much an obsolete list.

00:14:08.480 A lot of those firearms have changed hands since then.

00:14:12.000 But, you know what, it's a starting point for them to begin to, you know, to start tracking

00:14:18.080 these firearms down.

00:14:19.760 And that, you know, and that comes, that brings the next, you know, thing in question.

00:14:25.140 What kind of resources are going to be, or these confiscations, these looking for these

00:14:32.240 goods, how much of the provincial resources are they going to take up, you know, by putting

00:14:37.940 these programs into place?

00:14:39.700 It's, you know, everybody, you know, it's all smoke and mirrors till everybody starts

00:14:44.540 talking about the money, you know.

00:14:46.800 Well, number one, money for the firearms owners, because apparently they're not going to get

00:14:50.020 any for all these firearms.

00:14:51.620 And, you know, I talked to a guy yesterday that's got 70-some rifles and handguns, and

00:14:55.080 he's got, if this, all this stuff goes through, he's going to have two firearms left out of

00:15:00.440 70-some firearms, you know, that he's been collecting.

00:15:03.980 And, you know, they've been family heirlooms, and, you know, they've been passed through

00:15:06.860 the generations.

00:15:07.640 All of a sudden, that stuff is all gone, all null and void.

00:15:11.340 You know what?

00:15:12.020 He dies, this stuff goes, you know, his family, his heirs don't get any money, they don't

00:15:16.920 get any compensation for this, you know, and he's been saving this, you know.

00:15:20.740 You know, it's just like RSPs, basically, you know, you're saving this stuff, you know,

00:15:24.600 for someday to make your family have a better life.

00:15:28.220 And now that's all done.

00:15:29.680 And, you know, going in that direction, the ramifications on this are jutting out in all

00:15:35.720 directions.

00:15:36.260 You know, it's easy to say for the Liberals, you know, we're going to ban all these, we're

00:15:39.220 going to ban all these firearms, we're going to make Canada safe, which is another joke

00:15:42.120 that we should probably touch on.

00:15:43.880 But, yeah, you know, to make, you know, we're going to make Canada safe, but, you know, it's

00:15:49.440 all smoke and mirrors.

00:15:51.040 And, you know, it's going to be, no matter what they do, whether it goes through or not,

00:15:55.000 it's becoming a major expense to Canadian taxpayers.

00:15:59.400 Well, and I don't know about you in Ontario, but at least here in the Western provinces,

00:16:05.040 Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, the Yukon too, they've all said we are not going to ask

00:16:13.220 our police forces to enforce these laws.

00:16:15.320 They're too busy dealing with real crimes.

00:16:17.940 I know, particularly in Alberta, that's where the focus is, is that Justin Trudeau's RCMP

00:16:23.500 are not going to go around kicking in doors of Albertans to enforce gun laws that will

00:16:28.880 not make our communities any safer.

00:16:31.660 What's the hope for our Ontario friends, Rick?

00:16:34.240 Well, I'll tell you something.

00:16:35.480 I was in the Ontario Parliament yesterday and my MPP, who is, she is, she worked for our

00:16:43.640 Conservative MPP for 20 years.

00:16:45.740 Her name's Bobbie M. Brady.

00:16:48.160 Unfortunately, with shuffles and stuff, in the last election, she had to run as an independent.

00:16:53.660 I don't know what, I don't know what the deal was there with the Conservatives and stuff,

00:16:57.600 but she ended up winning my riding. 1.00

00:16:59.660 She stood up in, she stood up in Parliament yesterday and posed the question to the Solicitor

00:17:05.720 General on whether or not Doug Ford is going to be using police, Ontario taxpayers' money

00:17:15.600 and police resources to be part of Justin Trudeau's seizure program.

00:17:22.620 And actually, she was applauded and, you know, she got into a little deeper.

00:17:25.960 Actually, we're going to be releasing that probably today.

00:17:28.160 I'll, I'll, I'll actually, I'll send you a copy of that.

00:17:31.800 Uh, she actually, uh, got some applause, which was unheard of, uh, the, some, some of the

00:17:37.580 Conservative backbenchers were actually clapping after, uh, she suggested it, which actually

00:17:42.620 stunned me a bit.

00:17:43.280 I was sitting in the VIP gallery there, almost decided, I'm going, wow, these people are

00:17:47.200 actually listening.

00:17:47.760 But, uh, you know, I think the big problem with Ontario is, and you know what, I'm going

00:17:51.500 to call a spade a spade because Doug Ford is, uh, is, uh, getting a liberal money, uh, federal

00:17:57.660 money.

00:17:57.980 And I don't think he wants to, I don't think he really, really wants to go forward with

00:18:02.020 this, but I tell you, you know, Ontario is, you know, it's, it's a lot like Alberta, Alberta.

00:18:07.740 We do have a large rural area in Ontario and the rural people are fed up with this stuff.

00:18:13.120 You know, you know, why, uh, you know, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, New Brunswick, uh, the

00:18:18.120 Yukon are all on board in this. 0.99

00:18:19.640 Why is Ontario not on board with this?

00:18:21.800 So, you know what, basically, uh, Bobby Ann put, uh, put the solicitor general on the

00:18:26.420 spot, you know, the, you know, with, uh, with no previous, uh, you know, which, which

00:18:30.920 caught him off guard, which was kind of interesting too, because she did not previously, uh, put

00:18:34.960 her question in.

00:18:35.860 So he, uh, you know, he, he did the classic, uh, uh, you know, the, the, the classic political

00:18:41.940 shuffle, you know, they call it question period because there's never any answers in question

00:18:45.780 period, mostly all questions, most of the time, but, uh, you know, it was good and it

00:18:49.540 got a, I thought it got a really good response from, uh, some of the conservatives.

00:18:53.200 So, uh, we'll see what happens from them.

00:18:55.420 Uh, she's going to continue to write letters to the solicitor general about this.

00:18:58.440 And, uh, you know, as an independent, uh, MPP, the first one in Ontario provincial history,

00:19:04.580 you know, she doesn't have a lot of power, but at the end of the day, nobody's going to 0.98

00:19:08.320 tell her what to do.

00:19:08.960 She's going to, you know, and the other thing was she, she doesn't have any irons in the 1.00

00:19:12.900 fire in there.

00:19:13.300 She's not a firearms owner, but she, she believes in what's right, which is really, which was,

00:19:18.720 I thought was really good.

00:19:19.800 You know, she's got absolutely no, uh, no, uh, no irons in the fire, but she, she understands

00:19:24.420 what's right.

00:19:24.860 And she understands what's right for her constituents.

00:19:27.180 So, uh, like I say, this is put into, uh, put into parliament and I think it might go

00:19:31.560 somewhere.

00:19:32.020 It's actually going to gain some attention.

00:19:33.740 Um, yeah, I think let, let's move on to the safety issue because it sort of ties into

00:19:39.860 what you're talking about here.

00:19:41.740 You know, when you look at the size of Toronto, it's larger population wise than I think Alberta,

00:19:47.760 Saskatchewan, possibly Manitoba combined.

00:19:49.900 There's about 10 million people, the greater Toronto or six, six ish, maybe I think it is.

00:19:54.600 Um, so that's, uh, greater than at least Alberta and Saskatchewan combined.

00:20:00.540 Um, and those, the people who live in Toronto, you never have to leave the city ever.

00:20:08.220 Exactly.

00:20:08.700 You can, you can like live and die in the city of Toronto and never set foot outside to see

00:20:13.900 how the other half lives.

00:20:15.080 I think in Alberta and Saskatchewan, at least even in our big cities, even in the socialist

00:20:19.700 hellscape of Edmonton, you do have to once in a while venture outside of the city.

00:20:24.300 You do realize that there are things that exist in between Edmonton and Calgary.

00:20:29.800 There are people living their lives another way.

00:20:32.560 I don't know if, if people in Toronto are that tied to the community outside in Alberta.

00:20:40.100 People are often just one generation away from the farm.

00:20:44.180 Um, exactly.

00:20:44.920 You know, you know, myself being a farm boy from Southern Ontario, you know, I drove into

00:20:49.700 Toronto, Toronto yesterday to, to the parliament.

00:20:52.580 And I go, I don't know how people do this every day.

00:20:54.260 It took me, it took me an hour to go with three city blocks, you know, but anyway, the

00:20:59.340 biggest, I think that one of the biggest problems, uh, it with Toronto is, is that you're right.

00:21:04.180 It, it, it's a very diverse, uh, it's a very diverse community and people don't really

00:21:09.000 know what's going on outside of the, the, what I call the liberal, liberal block of the

00:21:15.320 20 some ridings that are, you know, some of them aren't any bigger than a city block, which

00:21:20.420 basically control, control all elections.

00:21:23.880 You know, it just, the, the lines are so slim there. 0.88

00:21:26.420 It's ridiculous.

00:21:27.200 But anyway, you're right. 0.89

00:21:28.420 You're right.

00:21:29.120 Uh, uh, Sheila, they, they, they haven't got a clue what's going on.

00:21:33.100 They haven't got a clue about sustenance hunting.

00:21:35.200 They haven't got a clue about predator control.

00:21:39.620 You know, if there's a coyote eating mine or your chickens, you know, that coyote is going

00:21:43.520 to be dispatched, you know, they're, you know, you know, it's, it's affecting, uh, you know,

00:21:47.700 what we do, our husbandry, our, our farming, you know, and people have no idea.

00:21:52.520 And I think, uh, I think, you know, and that's one of our biggest struggles, yours and mine

00:21:55.740 is to reach these people and, you know, make them understand that things are a little different

00:21:59.900 out in the rural areas.

00:22:01.380 Well, and I think this is, and I'm not blaming the people who don't know these things.

00:22:04.740 I'm blaming the people who are purposefully scapegoating everybody else for the problems

00:22:11.420 of the progressive big cities.

00:22:13.800 Where are the conservative MPPs in Ontario to do their best to dispel the myths about firearms

00:22:22.040 owners?

00:22:22.820 Because if your only experience is gun violence in Toronto, of course, I understand why you're

00:22:29.120 scared of guns, but if you put it to them, those guns are trafficked across the border

00:22:34.280 from the United States, those people carrying them illegally around playgrounds have not

00:22:40.080 gone through the daily vetting that you and I go through to own our firearms, I think you

00:22:46.360 can change hearts and minds.

00:22:47.980 But liberal politicians play on the naivety of the voter.

00:22:53.780 And I don't think conservative politicians, particularly the MPPs, are doing themselves any

00:22:58.800 favors.

00:22:59.140 You know what?

00:23:00.540 I agree with you, Sheila, too.

00:23:01.600 You know, and things are a little different in the West where you are because it's mostly

00:23:05.740 rural.

00:23:06.980 But, you know, and that's the thing, you know, and it's lack of education.

00:23:10.260 And, you know, it's not just lack of education to the citizens or the constituents or the writing.

00:23:14.960 It's lack of education to these MPPs.

00:23:17.420 Yeah.

00:23:17.560 A lot of these MPPs don't have a clue what's going on.

00:23:20.760 You know, I talk to a lot of these people and, you know, and I talk to, I talk about gun

00:23:24.900 crime and I talk about smuggled firearms and, you know, you know, and Justin Trudeau, you

00:23:29.540 know, lowering mandatory minimum sentences and stuff.

00:23:32.720 And none of that stuff clicks.

00:23:34.360 Although, although give the Solicitor General of Ontario credit.

00:23:37.500 He did mention that 90 some percent of crime is done by illicit smuggled guns.

00:23:43.540 So he did actually mention that in Parliament yesterday.

00:23:46.240 You know, kudos for him for mentioning that.

00:23:47.920 Of course, he skated around the issue of whether or not Doug Ford's going to jump on board with,

00:23:53.180 you know, without, with not funding police to, you know, to do these seizures.

00:23:59.040 But, you know, he did, I think, I think because he was caught off guard, he did, he did let some

00:24:04.880 of the stuff out of the, or let the cat out of the bag on some of the stuff.

00:24:07.600 And it was actually, it was actually pretty good stuff.

00:24:10.200 And, you know, he did touch on that, you know, for, he did make, he, which I appreciate,

00:24:14.860 he did make the comment that 90 some percent of all crime in Ontario is done by illicit

00:24:20.300 firearms.

00:24:20.960 So, which is, you know what, if there was nothing else gained by that, that, that was

00:24:24.320 a good thing that he did make that statement in Parliament.

00:24:27.500 Well, and the Liberals know this.

00:24:28.800 When they're snatching your guns and my guns and making sure that my daughter can never 0.68

00:24:32.940 use my father's firearms, that's her only connection to him because she, he died

00:24:38.000 before she was born.

00:24:40.420 You know, the Liberals know that it is a poisonous lie to scapegoat hunters and sports

00:24:51.560 shooters for the crimes happening in places like Toronto.

00:24:55.200 In fact, it is the Liberals who are responsible for that, at least in part through their open

00:25:00.780 border policies.

00:25:01.740 They have, you know, you have people walking across the border, just strolling in across

00:25:08.040 the border.

00:25:09.480 You know, they, they bring with them all manner of contraband.

00:25:12.840 And instead of dealing with that, the Liberals increasingly take the path of least resistance

00:25:18.860 because they know those people over there, they go about their business every day to follow

00:25:24.220 the rules.

00:25:25.100 Why would we worry about the people who don't?

00:25:27.160 You know, you know, and they, you know, we talked about this the last time we spoke

00:25:32.200 and it was, it was about, you know, their go-tos, guns and discrimination every time.

00:25:36.340 Yeah.

00:25:36.920 And, and, you know, it just, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, you're right.

00:25:44.420 It's an easy way for them to not focus on the real problem.

00:25:49.220 This, you know, they refuse, in my opinion, they refuse to focus on the real problem.

00:25:54.700 You know, the, the, the illegal firearms coming in the, you know, if they took half the money

00:26:00.120 that's projected that they're going to spend on this, uh, firearm seizure, firearms ban,

00:26:04.240 these, these bills, these OICs, if they took half that money and put it towards crime

00:26:10.120 in all of Canada, it would do a lot more than taking firearms out of the hands of, uh,

00:26:16.420 law abiding, uh, firearms owners.

00:26:18.180 Like you, and you mentioned before, Sheila, that we're vetted every day.

00:26:21.660 We're probably the, if not the safest people in Canada.

00:26:25.140 You know, if you, uh, if there's anything that pops up, you know, the police show up

00:26:29.020 at your house, it automatically, it shows up, you know what, it shows up in, uh, in,

00:26:33.440 in their, uh, CPEC system that we're a firearms owner.

00:26:36.160 So we're vetted every day, you know, and, and that's, that just shows the lunacy of this

00:26:40.920 whole, this whole ordeal with the liberals.

00:26:43.420 Yeah.

00:26:43.980 When we get a traffic ticket, we get run through CPEC.

00:26:48.280 Um, so, you know, like we are monitored once daily and every time we have any sort of police

00:26:54.180 contact, uh, good or bad.

00:26:56.420 Um, and boy, wouldn't it be great if they spent those kinds of resources on just intel

00:27:01.360 on the gangs in Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver, but no, again, take the path of least resistance

00:27:07.340 and pat themselves on the back for doing something about it.

00:27:10.660 And good job, Justin.

00:27:11.420 Good job, Justin.

00:27:12.580 And bringing in absolutely unenforceable gun bans, you can ban every, basically everything

00:27:19.640 except a, a smattering of duck rifles or duck shotguns, and then say, we're definitely going

00:27:26.040 to enforce this.

00:27:26.740 Is it absolutely impossible?

00:27:28.280 Now you guys at the NFA are doing great work.

00:27:30.360 How do people support the work that you're doing and find out about what you're doing

00:27:33.800 next?

00:27:34.160 Well, you know what, uh, the, the biggest way is, uh, you know, you can, uh, you can visit

00:27:38.360 our website, nfa.ca, uh, become a member.

00:27:42.500 Uh, most of the money except for office staff and some incidental goes back into, into the

00:27:48.060 firearms lobby and, uh, us lobbying for your rights.

00:27:50.380 Please, uh, follow us on social media and, you know, even if you're not a member, please

00:27:56.500 donate, you know, donate because that money is going towards the good fight in Ottawa.

00:28:01.720 Uh, uh, you know, other things you can do is, uh, write your MP people need to talk to their

00:28:06.740 MPs, you know, write your MPs, uh, tell them, tell them your feelings, tell them what's going

00:28:11.340 on and, uh, you know, get some input, ask him, ask them, he or she, what they are doing

00:28:16.840 to, to, you know, to stop this, uh, you know, and, uh, and the biggest thing, and, you know,

00:28:22.020 Sheila and I talked about this about a week and a half ago is get out and vote and get these

00:28:26.200 liberals out of power.

00:28:27.580 Yeah.

00:28:28.860 Yeah.

00:28:29.220 Your guns are never safe when there's a liberal around.

00:28:32.320 And also, by the way, if you've got a liberal friend, take them to the gun range.

00:28:37.160 I've never seen something more effective in changing the hearts and minds of people who

00:28:43.180 don't like guns than to actually take them to the gun range where they can experience

00:28:47.120 how much fun guns are, but also how, how much firearms owners are committed to safety.

00:28:53.240 Take a liberal to the gun range, change of mind.

00:28:56.520 Absolutely.

00:28:56.960 You know what?

00:28:57.500 And I've done that before and, uh, you know what?

00:29:00.360 They're almost scared to say that they're having fun because it goes against their party's

00:29:04.920 values. 0.99

00:29:05.400 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:29:06.300 You know what? 0.93

00:29:06.780 The guy's having fun and, you know, off the record or, you know, there's no cameras

00:29:10.220 rolling off the record.

00:29:10.940 This is a lot of fun, but you know, get out and say that to your people, you know?

00:29:14.660 And, uh, but you know, it's a, it's a, Justin Trudeau has, you know, he rules with an iron

00:29:20.480 fist for his party.

00:29:21.500 And I don't think that's ever going to change until, uh, until we get rid of him.

00:29:24.460 Yes.

00:29:25.480 Yes.

00:29:26.100 And I don't see a party revolt to get rid of him on the horizon anytime soon.

00:29:31.560 There are a lot of people who are just happy to have hitched their cart to that horse for

00:29:37.480 some reason.

00:29:38.320 Rick.

00:29:38.860 Including his ethics minister.

00:29:40.840 Yeah.

00:29:41.080 Rick, thanks so much for coming on the show and taking the time to break down Justin Trudeau's

00:29:46.680 latest attacks on people like you and me, my daughter, our in-laws, normal people all

00:29:52.460 across the country.

00:29:53.560 I think it is forgotten in all of this that more people play or more people are licensed

00:30:00.400 firearms owners in this country than play organized hockey.

00:30:04.160 Our national sport is sports shooting by the numbers.

00:30:09.120 And I think the liberals would do well to remember it.

00:30:12.020 Yeah.

00:30:12.600 Yeah.

00:30:12.900 Thank you.

00:30:13.600 Thank you for having me again.

00:30:15.000 And, uh, I appreciate this opportunity to, you know, to reach out through you, through

00:30:19.280 you, through you guys.

00:30:20.160 I really, the NFA really appreciates.

00:30:22.080 Thanks again, Sheila.

00:30:23.120 Thanks, Rick.

00:30:23.600 We'll have you on again very, very soon.

00:30:25.300 Thank you.

00:30:25.820 Thank you.

00:30:55.820 It's one of the reasons I give out my email.

00:30:57.840 If you want your letter to be read on air, it's gun show letters in the subject line,

00:31:02.920 G-U-N-N, by the way. 0.99

00:31:05.960 And my email is Sheila at rebelnews.com.

00:31:09.620 But do not hesitate to leave a comment on one of the other platforms where you might find

00:31:16.060 us, like on Rumble or even on the censorship platform of YouTube.

00:31:20.300 Now, today's letter actually comes from Rumble and it's on my show last week that I did with

00:31:28.140 the young journalists who are covering the Public Order Emergency Commission during their

00:31:35.540 time in Ottawa.

00:31:36.500 The commission rolls on, but the testimony is over.

00:31:41.460 The testimony from the witnesses.

00:31:43.180 And for those of you who don't know the Public Order Emergency Commission, it's the official

00:31:47.920 investigation into the government's use of a counterterrorism law called the Emergencies

00:31:52.260 Act against peaceful anti-regime protesters in the nation's capital earlier this year,

00:31:58.560 actually in January and February.

00:32:00.400 Justin Trudeau invoked that law on February 14th to extinguish nationwide anti-COVID restriction

00:32:07.840 protests that were embarrassing Justin Trudeau internationally.

00:32:12.620 But the largest protest was right in the nation's capital where it is, in my experience,

00:32:19.260 that the people there are quite boring and they didn't like all the protesters coming

00:32:25.340 and having fun in their streets.

00:32:27.000 Anyway, Mary 2023 writes, Trudeau and the federal government gave almost no second thought to

00:32:33.760 the possibility of using tanks on Canadian families with their children present at the

00:32:38.340 peaceful convoy protest.

00:32:39.820 Boy, isn't that right?

00:32:40.600 We saw federal cabinet ministers either joking or quite seriously musing about sending in

00:32:45.460 at least one tank to disrupt the protests.

00:32:49.100 Now, if they're joking, that makes them horrible people because going full Tiananmen Square on peaceful

00:32:54.480 protesters in the nation's capital is no joke.

00:32:57.000 And if they were serious, absolutely ghoulish.

00:32:59.880 I guess they get to decide which sort of bad guy they are in this scenario.

00:33:03.400 Anyway, most Canadians know that this threat from the government is hardly considered a joke,

00:33:09.300 as tasteless as it was.

00:33:11.260 This shows that the Canadian government are heartless entity based on fascism and will not 0.89

00:33:15.800 hesitate in murdering innocent Canadians in order to achieve a dystopian fascist dictatorship.

00:33:20.780 I'm not sure if they'll hesitate to achieve it, but they did definitely joke about achieving it.

00:33:28.540 And what I do know is that a conservative, if they had joked about this, they would be cancelled

00:33:36.780 forever, but generations of their offspring would be cancelled forever.

00:33:40.480 And these cabinet ministers, Marco Mendicino and David Lamedi, the AG of this country,

00:33:46.960 they just got to joke about it and carry on with their lives.

00:33:50.720 They should have resigned.

00:33:52.100 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:33:53.740 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:33:55.120 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:33:57.840 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:34:27.840 I'll see everybody back here in the same time.

Rebel News Podcast - December 01, 2022

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Justin Trudeau is attempting the single largest gun ban in Canadian history

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