Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Justin Trudeau's brother has ideas about how to avoid the tyranny imposed by the Liberals

00:00:00.000 Oh, hey, Rebels. It's me, Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're listening to a free audio-only recording

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00:00:16.260 is Kyle Kemper. Kyle is the half-brother of Justin Trudeau, and he's a little different

00:00:25.920 than his brother. He's pretty freedom-oriented, freedom-minded, and he wants to rethink the way

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00:02:21.740 On today's show, Kyle Kemper discusses his ideas for giving people back their power, for

00:02:35.260 holding the government accountable, and for unshackling our finances from the big banks, which

00:02:39.540 are easily controllable by the government. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching

00:02:43.700 The Gunn Show.

00:03:01.480 Do you know the name Kyle Kemper? I think you just might. You see, Kyle Kemper is Justin Trudeau's

00:03:05.960 half-brother, but I do not think that should define who Kyle is or the ideas that he has.

00:03:11.740 However, it is undeniably interesting that Kyle is so diametrically opposed to his brother

00:03:16.640 on issues of free speech, direct democracy, and of course, monetary policy. I'm definitely

00:03:22.560 not defined by my siblings. I don't think Kyle should be defined by his either. I don't

00:03:27.520 think anybody should. Kyle was the executive director of the Blockchain Association of Canada,

00:03:32.700 and at least it's my impression that he sees this moment in time with people rising up against

00:03:38.880 government control with the truckers' convoy and with governments reacting in the most

00:03:43.100 authoritarian of ways to that peaceful populist uprising as a perfect opportunity for a power

00:03:48.820 grab, but away from the government, an opportunity to decentralize. And the way Kyle sees this

00:03:54.580 happening is through something he describes as a decentralized autonomous organization, something

00:03:59.760 that exists outside of government and financial institutions, which makes it insulated from

00:04:06.100 cancel culture and government control. So Kyle joins me today from San Diego in an interview we recorded

00:04:12.220 yesterday morning to explain his plan for a new way forward.

00:04:29.760 Joining me now is Kyle Kemper from San Diego. Now, some of you may know Kyle as Justin Trudeau's

00:04:36.420 half-brother, but that's not why I want to talk to Kyle. I want to talk to Kyle because he has

00:04:42.580 written, I guess, a booklet about decentralized autonomous systems and direct democracy. And I think there

00:04:52.060 has never been a more opportune time to talk about this, and I think society is open to decentralizing. And as an

00:05:01.560 Albertan, this has been the drum I've been banging for a long time. The centralized Canadian government system has

00:05:06.960 never been good for us out here in Alberta. And Kyle, I think you tell me you were sort of inspired by the convoy and the

00:05:16.380 government's reaction to the convoy to sort of put your thoughts to paper.

00:05:21.860 Absolutely. Thanks for having me on the show, Sheila. Yeah, I mean, the great Canadian freedom convoy, as I like to

00:05:30.340 call it, was just such an unbelievable, inspiring showcase of love and unity and inclusion and self-expression

00:05:44.560 mixed with this idea of civic engagement. People were participating because they really felt like,

00:05:52.180 you know, they had to do something, they had to stand up. And, you know, it was entirely non-violent

00:05:58.360 and so beautiful. And, you know, while the images from the conclusion of it, you know, will kind of last

00:06:06.440 in everybody's memories, you know, the 17 days that took place in Ottawa of this kind of incredible

00:06:12.640 experience, I think, is something that we can all, everyone can return as heroes from that,

00:06:17.780 you know, and tell the tales of what actually happened there. Because, you know, your organization

00:06:21.520 was one of the only ones to actually showcase what was happening as opposed to just these radical

00:06:29.520 smears. But out of all of it, you know, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people through Ottawa

00:06:36.480 over 17 days, and they couldn't even get an audience, like, you know, with, with, you know,

00:06:42.520 policymakers, you had doctors, nurses, scientists, coming together, making the case saying, look,

00:06:49.240 let's have an audience. And, you know, that type of energy, and like, it was not a fringe minority,

00:06:54.720 it was people from all different backgrounds, and people coming out, like to support those who

00:07:00.260 couldn't be there. And, you know, we've seen rallies all across the country, too. But no

00:07:05.780 engagement. And, you know, we just saw Randy Hillier, like, you know, declare that he's not

00:07:10.040 seeking re-election, and he's not. And he made a very clear statement that the political system is

00:07:14.740 broken. Like, it has become a system where the parties vote for themselves. They vote for the parties,

00:07:20.700 and they vote for the party interests. They do not represent the people. And we look at, and when we look

00:07:25.540 at our kind of system of governance, this Westminster kind of British, you know, system, it was,

00:07:34.320 it made sense when there was Canada as a super large nation, when, you know, we had people all

00:07:42.100 over, and we didn't have telephones, or even electricity, and you needed people to come

00:07:47.040 together to kind of represent their various regions. That makes sense. But, you know, the thing about

00:07:51.740 centralized systems over time is they just become more secretive and corrupt. And I think

00:07:55.520 we're at the pinnacle of that right now. And we are in the age of the internet and exponential

00:08:00.160 technologies, and we have decentralized currencies and ledgers that present amazing opportunities for

00:08:08.080 innovation. And yet, we're using this Westminster system of governance, which is like using Morse code

00:08:14.320 in the time of the internet. It's broken. And so, you know, I posit that, you know, it's time for us to

00:08:20.700 start looking at new models of doing things. And, you know, one of my favorite quotes from Buckminster

00:08:26.060 Fuller, and it says, you can't fix the system by fighting it. To change something, build a new model

00:08:34.780 that makes the existing system obsolete. So, I suggest that that is the point that we're at right now.

00:08:40.620 And, you know, by the actions of Justin and his people and the party and the other parties working

00:08:50.780 together towards, you know, staying in power and keeping their paychecks, because I don't think they

00:08:58.540 want an election right now. They pushed us to innovate and create. And they're like, you know,

00:09:04.440 they just keep pushing and they're relentless. It's like, it makes no sense. So, therefore, like,

00:09:09.200 let's start looking. Let's criticize by creating. Let's start building.

00:09:13.760 Now, I think the reason your thoughts really struck a chord with me is that I have been saying

00:09:22.000 that the convoy itself is a reaction to the failure of the institutions around the people.

00:09:30.720 During the pandemic, all those things that normally people look to to protect their civil liberties or

00:09:39.220 to even make sense, they all completely failed. The Chamber of Commerce wasn't pro-business,

00:09:45.740 it was pro-lockdown. The courts, they are not representing the people and they're not

00:09:52.120 upholding civil liberties. They're not upholding the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which is the

00:09:57.280 thing by which they govern all other things. Didn't happen. So, you look to the politicians,

00:10:02.580 it didn't happen. They didn't represent their constituents. You look to the churches, well,

00:10:07.560 the churches were closed because they fell in line with the government. So, the people around them

00:10:13.280 saw the politicians failed, academia failed, the courts failed, the churches failed. Everything

00:10:18.420 failed all along the way. But like good Canadians, they relied on themselves and their neighbors to

00:10:25.460 have their voices heard. And I think that's why what you're saying now about, you know, building a new

00:10:31.520 system or rethinking ways to do it. I think the convoy itself was probably the event horizon of all of that.

00:10:42.060 Yeah. Again, it's like, people got pushed so hard. And like, you know, two years of isolation and

00:10:49.700 fear-based propaganda, like, you know, aiming to control them while watching all of our fundamental

00:10:56.240 liberties being stripped from us. I mean, those of us who are aware of it and that weren't just

00:11:02.480 operating underneath the fear spell, you know, that was so significantly cast. And now we have a very

00:11:07.740 divided society. And I know that as well, a bunch of people who are very kind of, you know, very

00:11:12.640 critical and very awake, you know, they were, they were also living in a state of a little bit of fear

00:11:18.500 regarding like, oh, it was like, are the things I'm saying, like going to come back and get me or

00:11:24.200 like, you know, is someone going to knock on my door? It's like, and then they went to Ottawa and

00:11:27.960 they're like, wow, like we are, there are so many people like, this is so beautiful. Like, this is the

00:11:32.860 side of history that, you know, I'm, I'm proud to stand on because like, you need to stand in our

00:11:38.520 truths right now. And, and like, and as very, very well put, all of our systems broke down,

00:11:45.120 like the unions. I mean, come on, they represent the people, but they're representing literally

00:11:50.180 their investors because they're all invested in like, you know, pharmaceuticals and, and,

00:11:55.660 you know, this experimental magnetic goo. Now you, and again, what a great way to put it in,

00:12:05.500 in your, uh, in your writing, you said that your brother played the villain in all of this. Um,

00:12:12.200 you described the, um, the convoy as freezing man, as opposed to burning man, which I think was a great

00:12:20.240 way to put it. Um, but, um, uh, tell me what you think about, um, you know, the actions of the

00:12:28.720 government and invoking the emergencies act to deal with, as you say, this freedom festival, freezing

00:12:35.320 man. Um, do you think that doing that so easily, uh, means that it will happen easily again, I guess,

00:12:43.540 next time that there's an uprising of, of mortals?

00:12:46.640 I think that there was their plan all along to enact that at some point, like they wanted to do

00:12:51.820 that because they wanted to, to, you know, um, further merge the state with the financial

00:12:59.040 institutions and give, you know, greater control or take greater control over free Canadians lives

00:13:08.400 and bank accounts. Um, and like, you know, it was so peaceful and so wonderful that they literally

00:13:15.960 like had to stage photos and like, just run on that and, you know, like, you know, operate with

00:13:23.760 goggles on of just looking towards like, you know, their blue check mark media, uh, as like, you know,

00:13:29.480 for telling them the truth of what was happening on the ground and like, you know, just avoiding

00:13:35.520 all the reality of what actually was taking place. Um, and so they just like, you know, push that.

00:13:41.720 And then ultimately by the end, I mean, I think, you know, I feel like they did a great job and like

00:13:48.640 after 17 days, like, okay, like, you know, there was, there was definitely like, okay, this,

00:13:54.200 this thing's got to kind of like, you know, break up in some way. And I just wish there had been

00:14:00.340 like, you know, cause we've seen a lot of, a lot of like, you know, positive momentum and positive

00:14:05.760 changes all across Canada as a result of it. Um, but, you know, it's a real shame that instead of

00:14:12.220 like, you know, engaging and asking them to like, you know, peacefully leave that instead we're going

00:14:18.460 to like, you know, bring in a bunch of storm troopers and like, you know, cause this kind

00:14:25.460 of scene that really just further kind of makes people angry. And it also like painted the whole

00:14:31.240 thing as like, you know, a protest that's where they got like their protests. Whereas this is really

00:14:35.000 a movement. It was like, you know, a, a freedom movement. And then, you know, combined, but we're

00:14:40.920 talking about emergencies that coming after the crowdfunding and like, you know, and it showed

00:14:44.560 like how in cahoots they were with GoFundMe to be able to do that. And then as soon as like, okay,

00:14:50.840 there's an, there's an outside innovator and give, send, go to like, you know, send their demon 0.52

00:14:55.200 hackers after that. And then docs, um, you know, all the participants of that basically is

00:15:02.400 intimidation. And then with the, you know, with the mainstream media, like, you know, like

00:15:08.580 seeking to report, basically intimidate, um, you know, the people, it was, it's full on psychological

00:15:15.300 warfare that's coming from this camp, which is definitely, which it does not, I don't not

00:15:20.260 believe this reflects kind of, you know, Canadian values and respect for the individual, respect

00:15:28.540 for life and liberty and value creation. Um, it's just like, this is, it's like our way or the highway.

00:15:37.120 And I think a lot of people are like, yo, your way has been like really messed up the last two

00:15:43.240 years. And before that, you know, it wasn't so evident, but like in the last two years, like you

00:15:48.860 guys have gone really crazy. And like, you know, how much fear can you be pushing on the people?

00:15:55.080 Um, you know, like preaching, like scary, scary, scary coronavirus, stay at home, like, you know,

00:16:02.580 drink and keep drinking and order all your food in line and, but don't connect with your other

00:16:06.800 people. Let's close down the bars. Let's, let's ravage small businesses of Canada while supporting,

00:16:12.080 you know, the Amazons, the Costcos, the Walmarts, et cetera, the, you know, the, the, the, the

00:16:17.400 blah, blahs, shoppers, blah, whatever. Um, and then all with like, you know, the pharmaceutical,

00:16:22.780 um, you know, industrial complex being the massive beneficiaries of it with zero, uh,

00:16:31.800 accountability or transparency into these gargantuan deals. Um, like, you know, the scope

00:16:39.720 of which these deals, like when they announced that, like right at the end of this whole,

00:16:44.540 at the, like the end of the trucker convoy, they're like, we're going to spend two and a

00:16:48.260 half billion dollars on rapid tests. What, what, like, you know, it's like, you want this

00:16:53.860 thing to keep going. Although the same time they're talking about banning single use plastics.

00:16:57.580 And it's like, this just doesn't make any sense. And I remember like in the beginning,

00:17:01.620 all through this, I was wondering, I was like, Justin, why are you talking about, you know,

00:17:04.580 vitamin D or exercise or nutrition or like, you know, helping people's immune systems and like,

00:17:10.020 you know, encouraging Canadians to improve their immune systems so that they'll be, you know,

00:17:14.600 more capable of fighting this, but there's none of that. It's all about fear and then positioning

00:17:19.620 hope in the vaccine, which, uh, or whatever you want to call it, this, you know, their experimental

00:17:26.900 magnetic goo, experimental gene therapy injection is what Reiner Fulmich and, and what's his name,

00:17:34.080 David Martin are calling it, which I think is great. David, I calls it a fake vaccine. I think

00:17:38.960 that's also a good one. Um, you know, and, but, and then to be pushing it on all the kids while at the

00:17:44.200 same time, like, you know, watching my kids go to school and like, you know, being forced to wear

00:17:48.760 masks. I was like, Oh my gosh, like, it's so terrible for a, for a seven-year-old and a four-year-old

00:17:55.060 to be forced to wear a mask all day. It's so dehumanizing, demoralizing and like, you know,

00:18:01.900 and again, it's like, why did we do any of this? And if we look back to the roots of it, like,

00:18:08.540 I think it's important that we study what took place here and really search for accountability

00:18:14.320 because at the end of the day, like, you know, it was a concerted effort by, by a few, you know,

00:18:21.360 in cahoots with like, you know, global mainstream media to shock in all the world into being so scared

00:18:29.380 of a coronavirus that, you know, they, we destroyed small businesses and destroyed the way of life on,

00:18:36.660 on, on planet earth. But with that, again, with that, with the darkness comes great lightness.

00:18:44.240 And I think it offered a lot of people an opportunity to reflect on their own lives,

00:18:48.800 where they live, who they hang out with, why they're doing what they're doing. Um, you know,

00:18:53.160 it triggered this massive remote work thing, which is kind of, you know, a little bit, a little bit

00:18:58.880 interesting, but you know, that's one of the realities of it. But I think a lot of people kind of,

00:19:02.280 you know, woke up to this too. And with this shock, there's been a lot with all the darkness,

00:19:08.420 there's been a lot of light and I'd akin it to that we're in this age change. We're like,

00:19:13.920 you know, the way things were pre pandemic wasn't like great. Like, you know, there's still a lot of

00:19:21.140 issues. And so this chaos is providing us with an opportunity to like, think about new systems and

00:19:27.460 new system design and implementing in, and, and creating this. And I mean, I have been in the

00:19:34.240 crypto industry for a while and believe that, you know, this tech can be utilized to actually

00:19:42.740 create privacy and more abundancy, you know, in society and love and create accountability and

00:19:49.760 transparency and responsibility within our public institutions and within organizational decision

00:19:55.600 making. And that comes to, you know, the idea of DAOs. Now, it's funny, because during all of this,

00:20:03.700 I've seen strange friends and allies forming because resistance to the pandemic is really resistance to

00:20:11.480 government control and authoritarianism. I think that's really what it's about. And you're seeing

00:20:16.540 people who normally are not on the same side politically, march at the same protests, you've got,

00:20:23.180 you know, the, the granola types, you've got the Christian, right, blue collar workers, they're all

00:20:29.540 marching at the same protest, because it doesn't break down along party lines anymore. It's people who

00:20:34.380 want to be left alone, and the people who just won't leave them alone, alone. And that's sort of where

00:20:39.280 politics are these days. And we've seen, as you point out, the merger of the pharmaceutical

00:20:45.940 companies, the media, the media, banking with the government. And it's created this sort of

00:20:53.560 four-headed hydra of controlling people's lives. But you have a sort of a plan or an idea to

00:21:04.400 decentralize and take the power back from these power-hungry beasts that have accumulated it over

00:21:13.160 the last 24 months. And one of those is cryptocurrency used to be the executive director of the Blockchain

00:21:19.520 Association of Canada. What role does cryptocurrency play in all of this? And do you think the government

00:21:27.720 will ever be able to regulate it? Because they, they seem like they want to, or they've hinted that

00:21:33.680 they're going to. But then when I hear Christy Freeland talk about it, it's like listening to my

00:21:38.140 mother-in-law try to understand how to program her remote control. I don't think she quite gets it. 0.97

00:21:44.280 What role does it play in all of this?

00:21:46.420 Well, and it's important, like, you know, to look at the reactions from, like, you know, some of the,

00:21:53.620 you know, small monsters. Like, for example, Mark Carney. Like, I remember watching him,

00:22:00.080 like, someone talked about Bitcoin, and instantly I watched him, like, like, oh, like, you could see,

00:22:05.160 he was like, oh, no, it was like, he doesn't like it. Like, they don't like it. Because it's a,

00:22:12.120 it's a threat to their monopoly on, on money. And, you know, if in a world where we just have,

00:22:19.040 like, you know, these central bank issued currencies, that they can create it as much as

00:22:23.600 they want ad nauseum, they have all the power. But as people start moving to parallel systems,

00:22:30.760 and Bitcoin represents a parallel system, and cryptocurrencies represent a parallel system,

00:22:35.580 and where you can create, you know, different tokens to represent, you know, different interests,

00:22:40.360 or have different utilities, you know, all of a sudden, these are these new systems that make the

00:22:46.240 existing one obsolete. Now, it doesn't make them, like, you know, it doesn't remove them overnight.

00:22:52.500 Like, you know, you can still use cash, but it's not as it's not, it's, there's other alternatives,

00:22:58.820 we are, we've broken the monopoly of money with, with cryptocurrency. And now they're now like,

00:23:05.780 you know, one of their next moves that they're trying to push is the idea of this CBDC, the central

00:23:10.840 bank digital currency, which won't be like Bitcoin, it'll be like, be like just basically a digital bank

00:23:18.080 account, but you know, you'll need permission in order to participate in it, and it'll probably be

00:23:23.260 attached to your identity. And they can, like, you know, like, instead of needing to go to instead

00:23:30.460 of needing to go to the bank to say, close down that account, like, they'll be able to, okay, let's

00:23:35.280 just shut down that account, or, you know, and, and, like, I get that, like, you know, in this central,

00:23:42.580 like, you know, with ever increasing centralization, you'd want that power. And, but there's going to

00:23:49.800 be resistance to that, like from our banking industry, for one, because it make them kind

00:23:54.960 of obsolete, because, you know, you will just be able to get a bank account, basically, an account

00:24:00.060 with the, with the Bank of Canada, but I don't know, they'll, they'll work that, that, that stuff

00:24:05.000 out. But ultimately, like, you know, the great thing about crypto is, like, you know, by downloading,

00:24:09.300 for example, like Edge Wallet, which is a self-custody wallet, it's like having a Swiss bank in your

00:24:14.160 pocket, like the old Swiss banks, not these new woke ones. It's, it's like, you are in full

00:24:21.360 control, you have your keys, you can send money, you can receive money, you can swap them, you can

00:24:27.640 utilize it for different services. And ultimately, like, you know, that's where identity is going

00:24:32.620 to be going to, what we solve, what Bitcoin solved, making, making kind of like, if you

00:24:40.100 look, think about your wallet that you might have, like, I don't know, I don't have a wallet

00:24:42.900 anymore, but like the ones that we used to have, you'd have your cash slot, then you'd

00:24:47.460 have your card slots. And like, Bitcoin solved the cash. And then, like, you know, blockchain

00:24:52.240 and digital identity will solve all the different cards within it. And they're all different

00:24:57.360 pieces, like, you know, and I think there's a, there's a lot of fear out there with digital

00:25:01.940 identity, rightly so, because centralized digital identity solutions are very threatening. If

00:25:09.180 Accenture, IBM, Microsoft are the ones acting and the governments are acting as, you know, the masters

00:25:15.140 of all of our data, then, you know, the black mirror scenario where like, boom, you've been deleted

00:25:20.780 and becomes very possible. If we have decentralized, you know, self-sovereign digital

00:25:27.160 identity, where, you know, we hold on to all of our different shards of information. And

00:25:32.140 sure, if like the, you know, if the government has, you know, your driver's license, it's

00:25:36.400 like one piece of identity that I then hold, you know, within my wallet, as opposed to like

00:25:41.880 a card that I have to go, you know, occasionally get, you know, pay money to have it renewed,

00:25:48.620 et cetera. And then at any point too, like already the government can go and like suspend

00:25:53.700 my license. Like there's nothing stopping them from doing that right now. You know, and

00:25:59.740 then, and then the last thing about this, so we've got like, you know, the, the, the cash

00:26:03.460 and then we've got the cards, but now it's like voting and like voting is, you know, one

00:26:10.240 of the big things because we don't have much transparency into the voting thing. And here

00:26:17.660 in America, I know there's a lot of real questions. Like I was just at General Flynn's

00:26:21.580 like reawaken America tour, man, people got a lot of questions about the integrity of

00:26:28.080 the election system. And I think a bunch of Canadians also have questions about the integrity

00:26:33.520 of the system. And I think people also were, are many Canadians who really cared last election

00:26:41.100 time round. Like, you know, they participated with like, you know, for example, the PPC, it

00:26:45.820 seemed to be the only party that, you know, was talking about lockdowns and, you know,

00:26:51.580 the pharmaceutical agenda and all this, this, these things. And, but they were, they were,

00:26:56.380 you know, they weren't allowed to be participate in, in the election and debates, et cetera.

00:27:01.320 And you weren't even allowed to participate in the debates. And then when you did participate

00:27:05.460 in the debates, they didn't answer your questions. They said, I don't want to answer questions

00:27:09.540 from you guys. Like what? Like, how is that? Is that, is this real? Like, is this, is this real?

00:27:16.900 And so thinking about like utilizing blockchain technology, and this is what I wrote in this

00:27:20.580 book though, which is short, it's only like, you know, 20 pages, just like a primer to say,

00:27:24.180 come on in, come on in, let's explore what we can do when everybody has the ability to vote on

00:27:31.320 things. Like imagine instead of it just being 360 people in Ottawa voting, you could actually vote

00:27:36.880 on all those things they're doing. Like whether or not they're going to snatch some bank accounts.

00:27:42.660 Or enact the, enact an emergencies act or spend two and a half billion dollars on, you know,

00:27:50.540 fake tests. Yeah. Or the media bailout. Or the media bailout. And it's like, you know,

00:27:57.200 and then, and then as well, you can use the technology too. Like think about CBC, for example. Okay.

00:28:01.260 They're funded by the Canadian taxpayers. Well, how about the Canadian taxpayers decide what content

00:28:05.140 goes on CBC? So like, how about we like. Someone would have to watch it first. Who are we going

00:28:11.080 to appoint to watch it? Well, I mean, or, or, or, or the, or the, or the broadcast or like, you know,

00:28:17.260 all the radios, like there's great infrastructure within CBC too. So, you know, if we want to talk

00:28:22.800 about like, you know, how about we leverage that to have like, you know, open, open radio within

00:28:27.300 Canada so that, you know, if people really want it, if enough Canadians are like, let's have 0.95

00:28:31.840 Rebel News on, on like utilize the CBC radio infrastructure. Like an actual public broadcaster.

00:28:38.680 Actual public broadcaster. Wow. Indeed. I mean, like, you know, those are the things that,

00:28:44.200 that, that, that we can happen. And I also asked on Twitter the other day, it's like, you know,

00:28:48.880 what are some things that, um, you know, all Canadians might get behind that the politicians

00:28:54.680 will never get behind. It's like income tax, like politicians never touch that one. Canadians,

00:29:02.240 you know, like I swear, it's like 90% of Canadians like, yeah, we don't need that. Especially when 1.00

00:29:08.260 presented with a very clear, like, you know, solution to it. And there are plenty of alternatives

00:29:14.840 to this, like, you know, this horrible ball and chain that is income tax. Um, you know, and so,

00:29:22.860 you know, we're utilizing new systems, we can address some of these systemic,

00:29:26.640 like mythical beasts within Canadian society that, you know, need to be like, you know,

00:29:36.100 challenged and, um, you know, and start like removing a lot of, I think we've just lived in a

00:29:43.920 society where there's just so many laws that it's like, you know, we spent our entire life, like,

00:29:49.500 being told what we can't do. Yeah. And well, and there's so many issues to where the political

00:29:54.700 class is completely detached from the normal people. Immigration is a great example of this. 1.00

00:30:00.360 I don't think there are very many Canadians who are actually against immigration. What they have

00:30:04.960 a problem with is the immigration levels and allowing immigrants to fully integrate and become

00:30:09.780 successful before you take in a bunch more. And it, that's another thing that breaks down

00:30:14.740 completely across party lines where even NDP voters will say, you know what, once you tell them

00:30:20.940 every, like the yearly immigration target, they will say, I think that's too high. I'm not against

00:30:26.580 immigration, but let's bring that down a little. But that is something where the politicians in 0.96

00:30:32.240 Ottawa, it's like a bidding war of who can get more immigrants into the country. Normal people say, 0.99

00:30:37.400 you're not setting them up for success when you do that. And you know, again, this goes to your

00:30:42.560 point about income tax. This is something where the politicians are over here and the normal people

00:30:47.780 are way over here and the media are over here enforcing the politicians opinions on it. 0.95

00:30:53.280 Yeah. And creating this fake consensus amongst Canadians that this is what people really want,

00:31:00.100 because it's not the reality.

00:31:02.020 The carbon tax is a great example of this too.

00:31:04.380 I mean, what CBC is suggesting, what CBC, CTV, Global, Global Mail, like, you know, post media,

00:31:11.660 they're all like just pushing this, this, this twisted version of reality that is like their

00:31:19.500 subjective perspective on how people should be and should act and et cetera. And it's like,

00:31:25.240 you know, I think the vast majority of Canadians do not identify, you know, with that speak.

00:31:30.500 Some people are under hypnosis from, you know, being under it. And like, you know, the more times

00:31:36.760 a lie is told to you, like you eventually believe it. And then like, when you can, like even further,

00:31:43.800 like another six months of that, then you begin defending it. So, you know, all of a sudden,

00:31:48.120 like, you know, we've got a bunch of these hypnotized people out there who are like, you know,

00:31:51.720 defending this. But then, you know, when they're actually challenged, they won't discuss it.

00:31:58.000 Well, and sorry to interrupt you, but I think people are also scared too, to hold a differing

00:32:01.980 opinion. Look what happened to the people who quietly donated to the convoy, 25 bucks to a

00:32:06.280 trucker. And all of a sudden, CBC is calling you to enforce the government's narrative that you are

00:32:12.180 supporting terrorism. So there are a lot of people who are afraid to speak up because they see what

00:32:18.340 happens to everybody else when they speak up. Well, exactly. And I mean, I just started like

00:32:22.120 a Patreon and it was like growing. I was getting a couple of new patrons every day and like whatever

00:32:26.520 that platform is centralized, kind of like, you know, it's only a matter of time, I'd say. But

00:32:30.920 then all of a sudden it was like, no, it was like, you know, again, people, people were afraid.

00:32:35.140 And then also like, you know, we had the Bitcoin fundraiser too, and they came after those people

00:32:39.180 too. And they, you know, they went after them, they came after the walls, they showed up their

00:32:42.900 houses, like shutting down bank accounts. And it's just like, you know, this oppression and what,

00:32:47.620 you know, in the end of the day, what's going to happen, it's going to drive all of like the best

00:32:51.980 innovators out of Canada. And they're already, it's already happened. We've already lost like a lot

00:32:56.760 of the best innovators have left Canada. They're like, I'm not going to deal with it there. Or

00:33:00.740 they've like, you know, they've, they've gone like, you know, off grid, they're going into like,

00:33:04.340 you know, prep or doomer mode. And, you know, but I don't think that's good either. And like,

00:33:09.320 you know, in talking to a bunch of like my colleagues, they're like, you know, we're really

00:33:14.700 like, you know, concerned about the situation here. And, you know, we've definitely considered

00:33:20.800 leaving, it'll cost us a lot of money to leave. But if we leave, it's like, I don't want to leave

00:33:26.740 because this is my home. And this is my community. And this is where I grew up. And I feel like if we

00:33:33.060 leave, like, you know, we're going into an uncertain situation and kind of leaving. So it's like,

00:33:38.080 you know, this is the importance of we must stand and start like, you know, coming together

00:33:46.820 as communities at the local level, at the town hall level to discuss things critically and to start

00:33:56.180 enable, like utilizing tech that gives us our voice back and enables people to submit proposals

00:34:03.780 and, you know, generate or be civically engaged in society because we have been disconnected.

00:34:15.300 The government in this current, like, you know, fascistic, commie kind of structure, it is about,

00:34:22.200 they're trying to create this bilateral relationship between individual Canadians and the government.

00:34:28.000 And it's like, you know, it's like, it's all, there's just this big force that we need to directly deal

00:34:32.580 with. And it's like, you don't recognize that, oh man, all around you, you've got communities.

00:34:36.380 And when we start working together as communities, then we can take our power back. And like,

00:34:41.360 you know, and when it comes back to like the, really at the local level. And I think, you know,

00:34:46.240 a lot of rural Canada, like, you know, many of the cities, they, they have their own challenges,

00:34:52.260 but like, you know, by and large Canadians all around, like, you know, they support each other.

00:34:56.720 They, they, they, they've got each other's backs. And, you know, and from my perspective, it's like,

00:35:03.160 okay, let's explore the tech side of this. Let's call on the builders, because we have some of the

00:35:08.180 greatest, greatest innovators and inventors and developers and creators, you know, in the world.

00:35:13.720 A lot of them have left, but that doesn't mean they don't want to participate. And it also doesn't

00:35:17.300 mean that people like, you know, outside of the world can also help in building this. So it's like,

00:35:22.920 you know, now's the time to understand what do we want the system to look like? What's the ideal

00:35:26.780 outcome for it? What are the covenants within it? How do we make this not a governing system where

00:35:31.780 somebody else is still in control of us, but we as individuals hold on to our power and our like,

00:35:38.420 you know, self-sovereign power, powerful people.

00:35:43.980 Yeah, it's, uh, it's really easy to want to run away off the battlefield when you're bullied by

00:35:49.460 politicians, when you're bullied by the media and your bank account could be seized, but that's

00:35:54.220 exactly what they want, uh, people to do. They want to bully you into, until you are no longer

00:36:01.340 engaged. They want to bully you into compliance. Um, Kyle, what is the best way for people to get

00:36:07.500 their hands on your booklet that I read that stimulated my thoughts so deeply?

00:36:12.260 So it's on Amazon. For now. Um, yeah, I'm probably going to just do like a, do a, do a video reading,

00:36:22.740 but it's called CanadaO. So CanadaO. DAO stands for Decentralized Autonomous Organization. CanadaO.

00:36:29.520 How we return power to the people. Um, yeah, it's like, I don't know, it's a couple dollars on Amazon.

00:36:36.640 Um, if you want to kind of engage, check out Canada, CanadaO.org. Um, and you can join like,

00:36:46.300 you know, this, the beginning of this, what I hope to be an exponential organization. Um,

00:36:51.260 so any way that, you know, you want to be involved and everybody can like, you know,

00:36:55.180 be involved in, you know, whatever capacity they want. That's the beautiful thing about free will,

00:36:59.240 um, and engagement is like, you know, kind of come on, let's build the list. Let's try and get more

00:37:05.820 and more people. Like if we talk about absolutes, like if everybody in Canada, like, you know,

00:37:10.140 was participating in this and we could all vote on everything and be really apparent, like, okay,

00:37:14.260 why do we need the, you know, the queen or the Westminster system of governance anymore? Like, 0.51

00:37:18.640 you know, why do we need to be paying these guys all this money and their staffs, all this money

00:37:23.120 to, you know, vote against the interests of Canadians, um, you know, and vote for the interests of,

00:37:29.440 uh, a select few who, you know, or, or corporations. Um, yeah, so, so Canadao.org. And then I've also

00:37:37.900 got a Patreon channel that I mentioned earlier. So it's Patreon front slash Kyle Kemper, um, where

00:37:42.780 kind of for as little as dollar a month, if you want to like support me, I am independent in this.

00:37:47.480 I have no oaths to anybody. Um, I'm, I'm like, you know, unlike others, I have no, I have no oaths

00:37:56.980 that, like, you know, that, that govern, except to my wife, my incredible wife, Britt. Um, and then

00:38:03.500 I'm on Twitter too, you know, as long as that lasts. Um, who knows every day is a borrowed day

00:38:09.720 on Twitter. It's like, I, I, you try to just, but I, I, I feel like with Twitter again, you can,

00:38:15.220 as long as you're just, you, you just gotta be kind of careful with, you know, your words. I say

00:38:20.460 that to everybody in general, like, you know, be impeccable with your words. Um, because like

00:38:25.340 recognize, like, you know, that you can, you can make, you can, you can like, you know,

00:38:30.360 create anger or stoke division or stoke fear with your words. Um, like, or you can cast light,

00:38:36.240 you can cast dark magic or black magic or white magic. Um, yeah. So, and then like, also it's

00:38:45.200 like, you know, there's guys that are trying to get us angry too. So don't let them get you angry.

00:38:49.460 Like when, when you get angry because of them, it just is giving them your power. So it's just

00:38:54.960 like, stop giving them your power. Be a happy warrior. You angry, be a light worker, like go

00:39:02.720 out there. Like, you know, like they learn from the truckers and freezing man, like, you know,

00:39:08.620 the power of dancing and music and sharing and radical inclusion and discussion and, you know,

00:39:16.620 community effort, um, you know, and civic engagement, like, you know, together, like this

00:39:22.800 is how we, how we can do it, like, you know, create, provide an invitation to connect for

00:39:28.580 others to, you know, connect and accept freedom into their lives. This is an acceptance movement,

00:39:35.700 not a resistance. This is about accepting freedom back into our lives and recognizing, you know,

00:39:43.000 that our jailers, um, you know, in the current government and, you know, are these hierarchical

00:39:50.120 centralized systems that we represent the lowest level of this pyramid, um, they'd not serve our

00:39:57.220 interest. So let's leave the pyramid and let's, let's work together in, uh, you know, in a, in a,

00:40:03.760 in building this new earth, this new Canada, um, that can focus on abundance, um, you know,

00:40:10.560 through participation and collaboration as opposed to division and scarcity. And I know it can feel

00:40:17.500 pretty scarce right now. And that's kind of like, you know, what they're trying to do, um, you know,

00:40:22.460 with this, but as we start coming together and working together, we can recognize that this

00:40:27.140 scarcity is kind of in a, a fear generated illusion and it's gotten pretty far, but just because like

00:40:33.520 we are here doesn't mean it, it's going to limit us from where we can go. And I don't have all the

00:40:39.000 answers. I'm just, I put, made this book as an idea towards taking this. Someone wants to go ahead

00:40:44.680 and just build it, like go for it. Let's build it. If you want to connect, like the future is about

00:40:50.120 cooperation and, and connection. So like, you know, I'm talking about Canadao at like a federal

00:40:55.780 level, but we're going to need Ontario and Quebec and like all in Alberta and then city daos. So

00:41:02.780 like, you know, Calgary, Edmonton, Toronto, and then neighborhood daos, and then other organizations

00:41:07.920 too. Political parties as well should probably be media organizations as well. Like, you know,

00:41:13.620 within, within rebel news, like there's an opportunity for, uh, utilizing DAO memberships

00:41:19.940 to enable like, you know, voting governance, because once you have the power of the community,

00:41:24.680 you'll find there might be a real, real opportunity. You know, people may be donating a little bit every

00:41:29.920 month towards different causes, but if they could really feel empowered to create, wow, like, you know,

00:41:35.980 all of a sudden, Hey, you know, a national network of, of antennas could go up. Um,

00:41:41.680 you're just full of solutions and ideas, Kyle. I want to thank you so much for taking the time.

00:41:51.880 Um, I'm a little disappointed in myself that it took you, it took me so long to have you on the show.

00:41:56.980 Um, and hopefully you'll be generous with your time and we'll have you back on again very, very soon.

00:42:02.000 I'm totally down. I really appreciate everything that you've done and you and Ezra and Avi and the

00:42:09.660 whole team all around. Um, you know, it's, it's doing the work of, you know, angels and actually

00:42:19.160 showcasing what's going on. And, you know, I like, you know, myself, my family, my media family, um,

00:42:26.920 you know, freedom lovers everywhere. Thank you so much, Sheila. Keep up the great work. Keep going

00:42:32.300 forth. Be a great mom, be a great human. You're awesome. Oh, I appreciate that. So I appreciate

00:42:38.800 that so much, Kyle. Thanks so much. I appreciate it. Appreciate you.

00:42:42.220 Well, that sure was fun. It's food for thought. And as I said to Kyle, I think the truckers convoy

00:42:58.780 was a reaction to normal people realizing that all the institutions they trusted have completely

00:43:04.840 failed these past two years. And the people decided to do something for themselves, which is,

00:43:10.980 I think what Kyle is advocating for as well. I'll include the links to his booklet and his social

00:43:16.600 media and his Patreon in the show notes today. Go ahead, check it out for yourself. Well, everybody,

00:43:22.300 that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same

00:43:27.580 time, in the same place next week. And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had

00:43:32.300 too much to think.

00:43:40.980 Adios.

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Rebel News Podcast - March 17, 2022

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Justin Trudeau's brother has ideas about how to avoid the tyranny imposed by the Liberals

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