Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Liberal Gun Grab Collapses Again — Now Six Years of Amnesty for the Law-Abiding

00:00:00.000 The Liberals explain one more time that your firearms are so deadly you get to

00:00:04.140 keep them for yet another year. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:08.060 You know it seems like forever ago but it also seems like yesterday that Justin Trudeau stood

00:00:33.260 on the graves of the people killed in Canada's largest mass casualty event in Nova Scotia to blame

00:00:44.580 the law abiding and then use that to confiscate our firearms. Remember this? Each passing year more

00:00:52.760 families are ripped apart by tragedy. More parents are struggling to explain the inexplicable to their

00:01:00.580 kids. And more teenagers are growing up in a world where gun violence is normalized. It needs to stop.

00:01:11.580 Today we are closing the market for military-grade assault weapons in Canada. We are banning 1,500 models

00:01:20.580 and variants of these firearms by way of regulations. These weapons were designed for one purpose

00:01:27.900 and one purpose only. To kill the largest number of people in the shortest amount of time.

00:01:34.900 There is no use and no place for such weapons in Canada. So, effective immediately, it is no longer

00:01:45.900 permitted to buy, sell, transport, import or use military-grade assault weapons in this country.

00:01:56.900 But here we are some five and a half years later and still in possession of our firearms. It's almost

00:02:05.900 like we're not the problem and even the government knows it. But that isn't changing their plans to

00:02:14.900 confiscate our firearms from us and then maybe give us the compensation the liberals have determined that we

00:02:22.900 deserve. To explain all of this and so much more is good friend of Rebel News, Rick Igersich from Canada's

00:02:31.900 National Firearms Association. Take a listen.

00:02:37.900 Joining me now is good friend of Rebel News, good friend of freedom everywhere and someone I recently

00:02:46.900 saw at the Rebel News birthday party in Toronto. It's Rick Igersich of Canada's National Firearms

00:02:52.900 Association and big developments I think out front but also behind the scenes in the firearms community. I think

00:03:00.900 we're going to talk about what happened or rather what didn't happen in Cape Breton, what Colt's been

00:03:07.900 up to, the extension on the amnesty. Once again, guns so dangerous you have to take them from law

00:03:14.900 abiding owners except you get to keep them for six years. And a whole host of other things. Rick, thanks

00:03:22.900 so much for coming on the show. I'll let you pick where we start. What's, what's stuck in your craw

00:03:27.900 first? Yeah, thanks for having me on your show again, Sheila. I appreciate it. What's stuck in my

00:03:33.900 craw? I've got several things. Actually, I brought a bunch of notes today, which I usually don't do, but

00:03:38.900 the Cape Breton thing is turning out to be a major flop. The liberals aren't letting any, the liberals aren't

00:03:47.900 letting any information out on what the, what the stats are, what they've seized and stuff. I think

00:03:52.900 they're doing that because I don't think they seized too much. Last I heard it was about 30 firearms and

00:04:00.900 that was two weeks into the program, but they extended the program another four weeks. So I think to boost

00:04:07.900 up the statistics, what we've been hearing out east is, I just spoke to my Atlantic provinces director this

00:04:16.900 morning, Donald Feltham, and he reached out to a few gun clubs and the gun clubs replied back to him

00:04:22.900 and said that they don't know of any guns that have been turned in. I think, I think what the liberals

00:04:28.900 are pushing in and they're playing their liberal games and saying, well, you know, they, they, they're

00:04:34.900 almost telling people that they have to do this, but people need to understand they don't have to do

00:04:39.900 this. Uh, it, they, they're, the amnesty was extended for a year. So they, they fall under the amnesty.

00:04:46.900 It just, uh, the so-called, uh, test pilot project, uh, doesn't seem to be working for them. So, uh, that's

00:04:55.900 where they're at right now, but there's a lot of, uh, there's a lot of other stuff going on there behind

00:05:00.900 the scenes. For example, the chief of police is the MP's brother-in-law and he didn't even make his

00:05:08.900 troops aware of what was going on. Uh, the, all his officers, uh, I, I forget what the number was.

00:05:15.900 I think it was, uh, 160, oh, there it is right there. 160 officers were not consulted. They don't

00:05:21.900 know. They didn't have a clue what was going on. So it was kind of a thing going on between the chief

00:05:25.900 of police and his brother-in-law, uh, for this gun confiscation, uh, to appease the liberals. So it's

00:05:33.900 a real mess out there. Uh, from what we've been hearing, nobody wants to turn in their firearms

00:05:39.900 and they're not gonna until they're legally obligated to do so. So I hope they stay with

00:05:45.900 that. And we're encouraging, uh, Cape Bretoners to do that, you know, hang in there as long as

00:05:49.900 you can. Don't do anything till the law tells you to, uh, don't do anything till the law

00:05:54.900 makes you turn in your firearms. You know, this Cape Breton flop. And I, you know, I, I probably

00:06:02.900 didn't explain it properly, but this is where the liberals are testing their gun confiscation 0.99

00:06:09.900 program in a super safe liberal writing where the police chief and the local MP are family.

00:06:18.900 And even there they couldn't get it to work properly. And, uh, I, I think it is a synopsis

00:06:28.900 of what's to come in the rest of the country. And just an added layer of something onto this

00:06:35.900 is that the liberals have created scarcity. So they've capped the payouts for, uh, firearms owners.

00:06:44.900 So if you're not first to hand in your firearms, then you may not get paid. So even though they've

00:06:51.900 extended the amnesty because we're so dangerous, we still get to keep our guns. Um, but they're

00:06:56.900 making it, uh, financially advantageous for you to be one of the first in line, uh, to get paid.

00:07:04.900 Uh, so turning your gun so you can get paid. But even then people aren't willing to do this because it's

00:07:10.900 about principle for so many of us. And I think the liberals just can't understand that.

00:07:16.900 Exactly. And the thing is this whole payout thing, how can they, you know, this is, this is a classic

00:07:24.900 liberal move. How can they claim that's fair? Like we'll pay you out till we run out of money.

00:07:28.900 I'm curious to see what I'm curious to see what the budget is going to be. Uh, you know, everybody's

00:07:35.900 sitting on pins and needles about the budget, but I'm curious to see how much money, if they're

00:07:39.900 going to talk about the gun buyback at all. I know right now it's going to, you know, their

00:07:45.900 numbers are out of whack as far as what they're going to spend. And, uh, you know, there there's,

00:07:51.900 there's, it's going to be billions and of Canadian taxpayers money. And, uh, right now,

00:07:59.900 Canadian taxpayers can't afford, can't afford to spend billions of dollars, uh, uh, on this,

00:08:05.900 uh, gun buyback. And, uh, I think, I think there's a lot of turmoil in the liberal party

00:08:10.900 right now. And, uh, I think part of it is going to be, uh, infighting that's maybe going

00:08:17.900 to help turn this around a bit. So do you think that infighting is liberals actually listening

00:08:24.900 to their constituents? Because, you know, like I'm in Alberta, so we don't have any rural

00:08:29.900 liberals. We don't have any liberals really, but we don't have any rural ones, but there

00:08:34.900 are places in this country where there are rural liberals, I'll say like on the East Coast.

00:08:39.900 Um, are they, are they actually listening to their constituents? Because this is disorienting

00:08:45.900 me a little bit. I don't really have that experience from liberals.

00:08:50.900 I think the liberals are listening to Natalie provost more than anything. I think the problem

00:08:54.900 is, I think the problem is that, uh, Natalie is threatening them with Quebec. And if they

00:09:00.900 don't follow up on this, uh, gun ban, she is going to turn on them and that possibly, uh, 0.99

00:09:08.900 you know, get an election going. And I think that's part of the problem. Uh, you know, she 1.00

00:09:12.900 is, uh, not in a good, she's not in a good mood after the SKS thing, after the public

00:09:17.900 safety minister stated that they're not going to ban SKSs. I think that was between

00:09:22.900 her and Pauly, say, Souvié and, uh, you know, uh, Wendy Kirker, Wendy Kirker, Heidi

00:09:29.900 Rafkin. I think, uh, between all of them, they're, they're mad because they're not banning 1.00

00:09:33.900 the SKS and they kind of thought that they were gonna. So that's another, that's another issue.

00:09:39.900 And I, it all, it all goes back to liberal infighting. Right. Right. Uh, hopefully liberal

00:09:46.900 infighting benefits the rest of us. Now, uh, I want to talk a little bit about Colt and

00:09:52.900 their involvement in all of this so that, uh, firearms owners know who's on their side and

00:10:00.900 who isn't. So can you bring us up to speed on that? Okay. Colt Canada, who is owned by CZ is

00:10:08.900 destroying legally owned firearms. Ironic for a gun manufacturer. I have a couple of Colt

00:10:17.900 Canada firearms. So they're destroying guns that they sold me a few years ago. Uh, you

00:10:23.900 know, CZ claims they're not part of the government, uh, uh, gun grab. You know what? That that's

00:10:30.900 easy to say because they're just destroying the firearms. They're not, uh, they're not in

00:10:37.900 the political end of things, but as far as, uh, as far as we're concerned, they're part of

00:10:42.900 the gun grab. And it's not good when, uh, when a manufacturer actually is destroying guns that

00:10:48.900 they sold us initially. Uh, uh, you know, and, uh, it's been, uh, it's been going on for a while

00:10:55.900 now with guns that were turned in from, uh, from dealers and manufacturers. And, uh, it's

00:11:02.900 not right. It's not right that a company that sells you guns actually destroy them. But at

00:11:06.900 the end of the day, Sheila, follow the money. Right. Yeah. Do we, do we know the cost of that

00:11:13.900 contract or do I need to find that out through access to information? You need to find that out

00:11:17.900 I need to find that out because, uh, it's, uh, it's definitely, it's definitely, uh, it's

00:11:23.900 definitely confidential. And, you know, and this is leading onto these, uh, mobile destruction

00:11:29.900 units that was, uh, that they just approved by ordering council. So as of 16, as of, uh, October

00:11:36.900 16th, the liberals approved rolling destruction units to travel across Canada. And they also approved

00:11:43.900 Canada post and shipping companies are authorized to take in firearms. Now, you know, and this

00:11:47.900 is all done by order of council, the liberals, the liberals, uh, tool that they use all the

00:11:54.900 time is their ordering council. And this is another example, how they misuse the ordering

00:11:59.900 council. Uh, you know, uh, once again, I cheer for government and aptitude and infighting because

00:12:06.900 Canada post is on a strike. So maybe that's a good thing, but, uh, imagine that the

00:12:12.900 uh, imagine approving mobile crushers because, uh, Canada's firearms community won't abide by

00:12:21.900 your confiscation quickly enough as, as if our problem is convenience, by the way, like

00:12:28.900 it's a gross misunderstanding of what the problem is. It's not because it's inconvenient to turn

00:12:33.900 over our firearms. We are standing on principle. And again, leave it to the liberals to not understand

00:12:38.900 what that's all about. In my humble opinion, this is nothing to do with firearms or public safety.

00:12:44.900 This is all to do with votes. The liberals are on really shaky ground right now, and they're looking

00:12:50.900 for anything to appease part of the population. That's anti gun. And, uh, this is another way of

00:12:58.900 doing it. You know, it's not just Canada posted the, they authorized shipping companies now to, uh,

00:13:04.900 to deal with this. So, you know, they're, they're definitely expanding their horizons. Uh, you know,

00:13:10.900 you know, as far as, uh, the public safety minister, he's way out of his depth. Uh,

00:13:18.900 he shows very little understanding of what's going on. Like, I mean, when he, the guy doesn't know the

00:13:23.900 difference between a pal and an RPAL, that's, that's bad for a person in his position.

00:13:28.900 And just, uh, yesterday or the day before he was challenged about his, uh, about his position on,

00:13:35.900 uh, firearms for Olympians and sport shooters. And, uh, two years ago, and I realized that he

00:13:42.900 wasn't the public safety minister at the side, I'm not even gonna attempt to say his name because he's

00:13:46.900 not gonna be there for long, in my opinion. But anyway, two years ago, they were supposed to do

00:13:50.900 consultations about, uh, about, uh, firearms for Olympians and, uh, and sport shooters. And there was an

00:13:58.900 any gun. So these people are still in limbo. Uh, I know of, uh, sport shooters who have actually

00:14:04.900 shipped guns to Europe, you know, like a hundred thousand dollars worth of guns shipped to Europe.

00:14:09.900 So they could go participate internationally because they can't, they can't get these, the guns

00:14:15.900 in Canada and they can't get replacements. They, you know, it's, it's hard for them to even get parts.

00:14:19.900 So, you know, that's talking about our athletes, you know, this, this, this goes in all directions.

00:14:26.900 You know, it, it involves, uh, you know, Olympians, but it also involves sport shooters, uh, like me

00:14:33.900 that participate in IPSC. My gun breaks. I can't get a replacement gun right now. It's, uh, it's ridiculous.

00:14:39.900 And he doesn't seem to, well, he, number one, watching question period for the last couple of weeks, 0.84

00:14:45.900 he doesn't really know what he's talking about. And number two, he's not interested in, uh, in, uh,

00:14:51.900 people competing for Canada. The, you know, it's just the, he just wants to, uh, follow the liberal,

00:14:57.900 uh, company line and continue on with this ridiculous, uh, gun grab that, uh, you know,

00:15:04.900 that's got nothing to do with public safety or anything realistically. It's, it's nothing more than,

00:15:12.900 uh, than, uh, uh, an avenue for them to gain votes at the end of the day, that's what it's all about. 0.83

00:15:18.900 And, uh, you know, it's, uh, it, it, it's nothing short of ridiculous, Sheila.

00:15:25.900 I think the, if the liberals were being honest, they would just make Natalie Provo, 1.00

00:15:30.900 the former, uh, anti-gun activist from Quebec, from Pauly Sissouviant.

00:15:36.900 I think if they were honest, they would just make her the public safety minister. 1.00

00:15:40.900 Um, because she seems to be running the show, particularly on this file.

00:15:44.900 And as we know, Gary and Anna Sangri can't touch certain files in relation to the Tamil Tiger terrorists.

00:15:50.900 Um, yeah.

00:15:51.900 So if the liberals were just being upfront about their agenda, they would make her the face of this 0.64

00:15:57.900 because they are doing exactly what she wants. So why isn't she just the public safety minister?

00:16:03.900 It would just be a little bit too honest, I think, for the liberals.

00:16:07.900 Um, because Gary doesn't know what, uh, the issues are.

00:16:12.900 He doesn't know what the file is.

00:16:14.900 He doesn't know, as you say, the difference between an RPAL and a PAL.

00:16:18.900 He doesn't know the current gun legislation.

00:16:22.900 Um, but he's arguing that we're dangerous.

00:16:27.900 Uh, it's, it's actually embarrassing to watch him as the man in charge of this file, try to navigate the file.

00:16:34.900 Yeah.

00:16:35.900 You know, and it, you know, as far as, uh, Natalie Provo, you're right.

00:16:40.900 She probably, uh, you know, she's a junior minister, but, uh, she's like you say, she's a former activist.

00:16:47.900 I believe she's still an activist.

00:16:49.900 Uh, and, uh, I think she wants that position. 1.00

00:16:55.900 You know, she wants to ban the SKS. 1.00

00:16:58.900 She wants, you know, she's making demands and when she doesn't get her demands, 1.00

00:17:03.900 she puts the party on notice and say, Hey, play my game or don't play at all.

00:17:08.900 And that's the position I believe she's taking.

00:17:11.900 And it's unfortunate that, uh, that Canada is in this position.

00:17:15.900 It really is.

00:17:18.900 Now, Rick, just moving ahead.

00:17:21.900 Um, but we recently, I alluded to it just a little bit earlier.

00:17:27.900 Uh, we recently received an extension on the amnesty for firearms owners.

00:17:33.900 Once again, we are so dangerous, so terribly, terribly dangerous.

00:17:38.900 That now all of us have owned these, uh, highly dangerous firearms, according to the liberals for six years.

00:17:47.900 Um, it doesn't make any sense, but again, I cheer for government incompetence and liberal infighting here.

00:17:54.900 Um, but do you, do you, in all honesty, do you even think that this gun ban is going to be completed?

00:18:04.900 Do you think they're ever going to be able to, um, execute their plans to disarm the population?

00:18:10.900 Because I mean, at the end of the day, they are shuffling guns onto this list of banned firearms,

00:18:16.900 but they don't even know how many of them are, are in the country.

00:18:19.900 So how do you know the cost, where they are and how you, how do you plan to round them up?

00:18:24.900 I just think it's so impossible, but they've, they're in bed with the activists and they don't know what to do now.

00:18:30.900 Yeah. You know what, and, uh, what's going on is they're throwing these little pieces of bait out there to find out what's out there.

00:18:40.900 This, their mission right now is a fact finding mission.

00:18:43.900 Like you said, they don't know what's out there.

00:18:45.900 So they're putting these little things like Cape Breton out there to figure out how many of these guns are out there.

00:18:50.900 What's out there. And the fact of the matter is people are waking up, you know, people are saying we're not going to comply unless we absolutely have to.

00:19:02.900 And that's why they keep extending this. Uh, and I believe, and like the NFA works within the law to change the law,

00:19:09.900 but I believe there's going to be a lot of non-compliance out there.

00:19:12.900 Yeah. And I think that's going to be a real problem for them.

00:19:15.900 Uh, they, uh, they don't know what's out there.

00:19:19.900 You know, they, they basically know what was registered the AR 15s and a few other, uh, restricted rifles at the time, but there's thousands.

00:19:29.900 If not, you know, I, I, I can't even put a number on it myself of these firearms out there.

00:19:36.900 And, uh, you know, they think people are just going to just bow to them.

00:19:40.900 And, you know, when time's out and say, well, okay, this is what I've got.

00:19:43.900 I'm going to take 5 cents on the dollar on this fire.

00:19:46.900 Um, this fire may be if you don't run out of money.

00:19:48.900 And I think, uh, I think they're caught between a rock and a hard place.

00:19:53.900 I think, I think they realize that this is nothing but, uh, you know, a major billion dollar boondoggle.

00:20:01.900 And they don't know how to get out of it because at the end of the day, it's one of their positions they use for votes.

00:20:09.900 Yeah.

00:20:10.900 Uh, and the other thing is to take the heat off them about other stuff that's going on with the liberal party.

00:20:17.900 As the art, the latest RCMP thing with SN Lavalin, you know, when you start talking about guns, it takes the heat off this other stuff.

00:20:25.900 Right.

00:20:26.900 And that's, that's classic liberal.

00:20:28.900 That's classic liberal.

00:20:29.900 Uh, that's classic liberal, uh, uh, the way they operate, you know, get something else out there to take the heat off the subject.

00:20:37.900 That's, uh, that's, uh, present day.

00:20:40.900 Yeah.

00:20:41.900 Guns and abortion.

00:20:42.900 Yeah.

00:20:43.900 Exactly.

00:20:44.900 That's when the liberals are in trouble.

00:20:46.900 You'll hear them talking about both of those things.

00:20:48.900 Um, yeah, I mean, you have people who don't understand firearms trying to run the firearms program and, uh, they, they don't understand anything about the make and models of these firearms where they are or anything like that.

00:21:02.900 And the cost is going to balloon and they have learned nothing from history.

00:21:06.900 One of the biggest problems, and I say that from a liberal perspective, not from a conservative and or firearms owning perspective.

00:21:14.900 But one of the biggest problems in the middle of the long gun registry was non-compliance.

00:21:20.900 Right.

00:21:21.900 Absolutely.

00:21:22.900 I mean, the thing was useless because so many people didn't comply because the gun, the government didn't know what you had or what grandpa had.

00:21:29.900 So you just didn't comply and it made the registry useless.

00:21:32.900 Yeah.

00:21:33.900 That's, this is the same issue right now with the confiscation.

00:21:39.900 Really, their, their list of who has what is completely useless.

00:21:44.900 Yeah.

00:21:45.900 You know, we've been hearing rumors about them canceling the buyback, but you have to read into that a little farther because they didn't say anything about, uh, canceling the OIC or Bill C-21, which is, uh, which is a totally different thing with the handguns.

00:22:02.900 But they didn't say anything that they said, well, you know what, we might cancel the buyback, but our, it looks like these guns, if they do that, these guns are still in the safes.

00:22:12.900 You can't shoot them.

00:22:13.900 So basically it kind of moves into a C-21 mode where after you pass away, these guns go for destruction.

00:22:21.900 So, you know, it, uh, it stirred some interest among firearms owners and got them a little excited when they were, you know, there was, uh, rumors of, uh, them canceling the buyback, but you got to read a little, you got to read a little deeper into that because it's more than, uh, it's more, you know, you can cancel the buyback, but if, if our guns are still caught in our safes, what good are they?

00:22:41.900 So, you know, that's what, that's what the NFA is doing right now.

00:22:45.380 We've, uh, we've had a pretty successful last few months.

00:22:48.680 Our new lobbyist has got over, over 60 lobbies.

00:22:51.720 We've been talking to the right people at the right time.

00:22:54.820 We've even spoke to a few liberals and we're definitely making inroads.

00:22:59.640 We've actually, we actually put a pamphlet, we put a pamphlet out a few days ago.

00:23:03.540 Sheila, you've got a copy of it that the CPC are using for talking points because they didn't know some of this stuff.

00:23:10.740 They didn't know that a Weatherby Mark V rifle, bolt action hunting rifle was on the, on the OIC ban list.

00:23:17.840 They didn't know Ruger number one was on the OIC ban list.

00:23:21.400 They didn't know that a Turtles Century, uh, rifle that there was only five produced of is on the ban list.

00:23:30.380 So we've been, uh, we've been trying to get the information out and, uh, I think we've been doing a good job.

00:23:35.240 Like I say, our lobbyist is amazing.

00:23:36.900 Tom Maven is, uh, is doing an outstanding job in Ottawa.

00:23:40.740 Uh, you know, talking to these people and information is key.

00:23:45.820 And I speak to a lot, I travel across the country and I speak to a lot, a lot of, uh, CPC MPs.

00:23:53.600 I speak to a lot of people.

00:23:55.300 A lot of them just don't know what's going on.

00:23:57.640 Even the CPC guys don't know what's going on.

00:24:00.400 They don't know what's going on with the order of council.

00:24:02.860 And, you know, they kind of play it off.

00:24:04.960 Well, you know, uh, we're, we're, we're taking the party's position, but you know what?

00:24:09.320 The party's position has to be, uh, increased because there's not a, they don't, they don't have enough information.

00:24:14.900 So we're trying to get that information out right now.

00:24:17.120 And it seems to be working.

00:24:18.800 Uh, I'm happy to say, I'm happy the way things have been going with the NFA.

00:24:22.840 You know, as far as, uh, as far as getting the information out there, our people are working really hard.

00:24:28.500 You know, we're not focusing, we're not focusing on lawsuits and stuff like that.

00:24:32.760 We're actually focusing, uh, boots on the ground stuff in Ottawa, which is, uh, which seems to be working.

00:24:38.720 So we're going to keep going in that direction and we're going to fight harder and hopefully, uh, we can get this thing changed around.

00:24:46.200 Yeah.

00:24:46.940 Uh, the, uh, just one thing I noticed the other day when I was.

00:24:52.840 Um, watching the Senate committee because, uh, they had some of these, uh, public safety types, um, testifying at the Senate committee was how for the most firearms, heavy places of the province or of the country.

00:25:11.580 And I exclude, um, Alberta and Saskatchewan in this, but the people where they might subsistence hunt because the cost of food is so atrocious or you might get mauled by a polar bear.

00:25:22.180 So it's a real safety issue.

00:25:24.480 They don't have their own CFOs.

00:25:26.740 Um, they've been waiting on the feds to appoint their CFOs and it's just not the case.

00:25:32.340 If you are in Nunavut, your CFO is in Manitoba.

00:25:36.220 If you're in British or if you're in the Yukon, your CFO is in British.

00:25:42.240 Yeah.

00:25:42.640 Is in BC.

00:25:43.780 And, and so, uh, I think that's so disrespectful to the people there, um, and, and the different firearms cultures.

00:25:53.780 But again, the liberals just don't care.

00:25:55.420 They think they know what's best and it's one solution for everybody.

00:25:59.400 Yeah.

00:25:59.600 And you're right.

00:26:00.620 You, you summed it up there.

00:26:01.720 The liberals don't care.

00:26:03.280 This isn't like, you know, and I, and I'm repeating myself, which is, this isn't about public safety.

00:26:08.860 This isn't about, uh, you know, law abiding Canadians going out and, you know, causing havoc with a firearm.

00:26:15.420 This is all about votes and how they can, you know, weasel their way in and use talking points.

00:26:23.080 And I believe there might be an election coming up and, uh, they're going to, they're going to be working on this stuff.

00:26:28.620 And, you know, the firearms is going to be to the forefront again, even though it's causing turmoil in their own party.

00:26:34.440 They have to use it because there's a part of the population that likes to hear this stuff, you know, I'm not even going to get into what we're, what, what, you know, what this new woke stuff and stuff is all about.

00:26:51.200 But the thing is, even that part of the population, Sheila, they don't understand about firearms.

00:26:56.800 They don't understand about, uh, sustenance hunters.

00:26:59.620 They don't understand about sport shooters.

00:27:01.300 They don't understand about collectors.

00:27:02.660 They think, they think a firearm is going to go out there by itself and cause havoc, which it's not.

00:27:10.040 You know, it's just, uh, it's all about, it's all about public perception and guess who's causing this perception?

00:27:17.760 It's the liberals.

00:27:18.560 And again, I go back to follow the votes and follow the money.

00:27:23.340 Right.

00:27:23.700 I mean, there are a lot of people in this country who live in cities plagued by crime and they can't figure out that it's progressive policies in their city that are causing those crimes.

00:27:35.580 And then the progressive policies of the liberals catch and release bail, um, system, and then also the liberals inability to control what happens at our border.

00:27:45.900 Um, all of those things are causing an inflated crime rate in this country, but we are, of course, the path of least resistance as the most law-abiding people in this country.

00:27:56.460 God forbid if you defend your home.

00:27:58.660 Yeah, right, right, right.

00:28:00.200 Um, and, you know, they, the liberals won't shut up about misinformation, but they are the biggest purveyors of misinformation about people like you and I.

00:28:12.220 Exactly.

00:28:12.820 And, you know, and that, and that's always been their MO and it's going to continue to be their MO.

00:28:17.440 And, you know, uh, this new prime minister, I don't, you know, I, you know, I talk to people and a lot of people are saying, where is this guy?

00:28:24.480 Nobody sees him.

00:28:25.320 He's not doing anything.

00:28:26.660 He's, you know.

00:28:27.080 Europe generally.

00:28:28.840 Yeah, exactly.

00:28:29.720 Like, where's the prime minister in Europe, I think.

00:28:31.140 Yeah, you know, and, uh, you know, that, that's a whole, uh, you know, that's not the NFA's, uh, you know, alley, but still, it just, uh.

00:28:40.460 Yeah, we have some problems here someone might want to fix, but, you know, exactly, but, uh, you know, I don't know, just, you know, their appointments and stuff like this, public safety minister is, uh, it, it ceases to amaze me how these people work.

00:28:55.980 It really does.

00:28:57.260 Yes.

00:28:57.780 Uh, now, uh, Rick, is there anything on else on your list of grievances?

00:29:03.000 Uh, yeah, but that's a whole nother show.

00:29:05.320 Uh, there's, uh, there's a lot of stuff going on.

00:29:09.340 I just, like I say, uh, we're just, uh, we're dug in deep and we're working on a lot of stuff.

00:29:15.080 Uh, not so much in the way of grievances, right?

00:29:18.040 Well, there is, uh, just, uh, the, the two-sidedness of the liberal party, you know, like I say, our lobbyists is liberal as actually, uh, has lobbied some liberals and from a liberal perspective, they don't even know what's going on.

00:29:33.420 They just, they just tow the company line.

00:29:35.900 It's just as simple as that.

00:29:37.620 So, yeah, there's, uh, you know, the NFA has got a lot of stuff going on.

00:29:41.620 We'll be attending a lot of events and stuff this year to get the information out there.

00:29:45.060 But the big thing right now for us is Ottawa.

00:29:47.160 We're working in Ottawa with MPs.

00:29:49.160 And, uh, my goal is to have at least, uh, uh, you know, close to a hundred lobbies by the end of the year.

00:29:55.260 We need the, we need to talk to every MP out there.

00:29:58.280 I don't care what color they wear.

00:29:59.980 Uh, there is some NDP people that are interested in talking to us.

00:30:03.640 You know, there is some, uh, there is some liberals out there that, uh, we kind of put in a corner and have them talk to us, which is working out well for us.

00:30:13.640 And, uh, like I say, but we have to work hard this, this, uh, you know, being a firearms, uh, right, a firearms rights advocacy group is hard because a lot of people don't want to talk to you because they think we're a bunch of, uh, radical gunslingers, which we're not.

00:30:29.980 We're just, uh, we're people about our property rights and we're people about freedom.

00:30:34.120 And, uh, once they understand that, they understand the fact that, uh, you know, we can help them.

00:30:40.100 We don't, we're not out there to hurt them.

00:30:41.520 We're out there to help them.

00:30:42.520 And, uh, that's been a problem for the last few years too, is, uh, actually even talking to the CPC because they don't understand where we're coming from.

00:30:50.620 But after we made a bunch of changes in the NFA, I think they're beginning to understand where we're coming from.

00:30:55.280 And we've been, uh, I'm, I'm very happy the way things are going, like I said before, I'm very happy the thing, the way things are going for us and we're just going to keep grinding.

00:31:03.480 Yeah.

00:31:04.560 I can see you've been working hard.

00:31:05.920 Now I want to ask you, um, before I give you an opportunity to tell people how they can get involved in the NFA, tell us about your SAVE firearms program.

00:31:17.360 Okay.

00:31:18.040 Our SAVE firearms program is basically stopping guns from being destroyed.

00:31:25.280 There's a lot of estates out there right now that, uh, guns are trapped, basically trapped in where, uh, somebody has passed away.

00:31:34.120 They were a license holder and more or less handguns are frozen the estate.

00:31:42.040 And as soon as the estate's closed, according to the liberal rules, they need to go for destruction.

00:31:48.580 But there is another option.

00:31:50.140 Uh, the NFA is, uh, licensed firearms business.

00:31:55.080 We can take those guns in and hold them.

00:31:58.480 And this is what we've been doing.

00:32:00.120 We would take these guns in and holding them in a facility that we have.

00:32:04.100 We have a secure facility where we hold them till the government changes to the liberal or till the, till, uh, the conservatives get in power again, where we can get these guns back to their rightful owners.

00:32:16.420 Our biggest problem right now is we've got so many people out there, sons and daughters that want their dad's guns and they can't get them right now.

00:32:23.860 The guns are going to be destroyed.

00:32:25.160 So we're holding it, but we can take anything.

00:32:27.200 We can take handguns.

00:32:28.280 We can take machine guns.

00:32:29.360 We can take anything in.

00:32:30.760 Uh, we have all our, uh, we have all our, uh, certifications.

00:32:34.720 So, uh, and the other thing, the other end of it too, is if somebody's involved in a legal issue, uh, say, uh, a red flag law or a domestic, we can hold those firearms till their legal issues are, uh, are resolved.

00:32:50.700 Instead of the guns ending up at a police station and rusting out and possibly being destroyed before the court case is done.

00:32:58.400 So, uh, it's on our website, uh, uh, save, uh, it's on our website, save firearms, get on there.

00:33:05.860 Uh, we've been having a lot of response on it.

00:33:08.680 We know we've been taking guns in and like I say, it just, uh, you know, we put that program out there to save these guns because the last thing we want to see is firearms getting destroyed.

00:33:18.660 Same, uh, Rick, before I let you go, how do people get involved in the NFA?

00:33:25.600 Uh, go to NFA.ca.

00:33:28.020 You can become a member.

00:33:29.120 And, uh, the thing is you don't have to be a firearms owner to join the NFA.

00:33:33.260 You just have to be interested in personal property and freedom.

00:33:35.940 You know, we have a lot of members that aren't, uh, firearms owners, but they're freedom people.

00:33:41.120 And, uh, we, uh, we can, uh, just go to our website and you can, uh, you can join.

00:33:47.100 It's cheap.

00:33:47.560 It's $35 for a regular member, 30, $30 for a senior and 45 for a family.

00:33:52.640 Uh, you know, for the price of, uh, a large pizza and a two liter, you can join the NFA.

00:33:58.240 Uh, at the end of the day, you know, it's, uh, the more, the more voices we can get out there, voices are votes and, and politicians know that, you know, out of the 2.4 million gun owners in Canada,

00:34:12.040 which I think is, is, uh, way underestimated.

00:34:16.320 I think, uh, I think if we could get everybody to join a gun group, I think we would have such a powerful voice in Ottawa.

00:34:24.380 None of this stuff would be going on right now.

00:34:26.840 None of this BS, uh, orders and counsel, C71, C21, none of this stuff would be going on, but it's all about votes and, you know, politics is politics.

00:34:37.180 And, uh, you know, get out there, join up, join a group.

00:34:41.100 You know, I'd appreciate it if you joined the NFA, but join, join a gun advocacy group because your voice needs to be heard.

00:34:49.200 Uh, you know, you can follow us on our social media platforms.

00:34:53.020 You know, we're on, uh, we're on Facebook, Twitter, or I guess it's X, uh, X, uh, Facebook, X, uh, Instagram, YouTube.

00:35:02.400 We also have, uh, we're also on Canadian gun nuts now, which is, uh, which we've been getting a lot of good responses on.

00:35:09.920 You know, we've been posting stuff on Canadian gun nuts and, uh, you know, get out there, follow us.

00:35:15.160 If you, if you're not sure about joining, get out there and look at our social media.

00:35:20.000 And, uh, I think you'll, uh, appreciate what's going on.

00:35:23.360 Yeah.

00:35:23.620 Just have a look and you'll see what they're all about.

00:35:25.560 I know I have a, uh, a, a fair number of people who are viewers of the gun show who are not firearms owners, but they have joined the NFA because of your advocacy of property rights and advocacy of fair treatment under the law for innocent people.

00:35:43.700 Um, which, which it doesn't seem like the firearms owning community is getting Rick.

00:35:48.340 Thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:35:49.860 So thanks for taking the time.

00:35:51.080 Thanks for supporting the work that we do at rebel news.

00:35:54.160 Uh, it was really nice to see you at our birthday party and, uh, just keep fighting for families just like mine to be able to hang on to our family heirlooms.

00:36:04.260 Yeah.

00:36:04.680 Thanks for having me on again, Sheila.

00:36:06.380 I appreciate it.

00:36:07.420 Uh, another thing to go to, go to, go to rebel.

00:36:10.680 We do a lot of stuff on rebel besides the gun show.

00:36:13.780 So have a look at what's on rebel and, uh, you know, it's, uh, we need to get the, we, we, we need to get the word out to like-minded people and rebel is one way of doing it.

00:36:22.920 And, uh, we appreciate everything that rebel does for us.

00:36:25.740 And, uh, it was a lot of fun to be at your, uh, at your, uh, 10th anniversary party there.

00:36:30.160 It was, it was a great time.

00:36:31.320 So anyway, again, thanks for having me on the show, Sheila.

00:36:34.700 You got it, Rick.

00:36:35.260 So the last portion of the show goes to you because without you, there's no rebel news.

00:36:47.000 That's why I care about what you think about the work that we do here.

00:36:49.520 If you want to send me viewer feedback on my interview with Rick, you can send it to Sheila at rebelnews.com.

00:36:57.180 That's my email.

00:36:58.480 And you just might hear your question, comments, criticism read on air.

00:37:04.160 But don't let that be the only place that you leave your viewer feedback.

00:37:08.520 If you find a clip of the show on YouTube or on Rumble, please leave your comments there.

00:37:14.900 Um, also share those clips with your friends who are not yet subscribers.

00:37:18.800 Um, your comments there help us get around the very intense internet censorship these days at the hands of the liberals, but also at the hands of big tech platforms.

00:37:28.840 Now, today's viewer feedback actually comes to me in the email, but it's not specifically about my work at the gun show.

00:37:39.280 So it comes to me about the municipal election here in Alberta.

00:37:46.320 And I did the municipal election live stream where hand counting, which I don't object to, made things take a lot longer.

00:37:55.940 And in Edmonton, uh, the numbers weren't really in until the next day, even though numbers were in, in Calgary and the voter turnout was much lower in Edmonton.

00:38:06.240 It was just a big disaster, but there was a side story in all of this.

00:38:09.860 And that was the, uh, ridiculous forever Canada petition people run by a former Redford, Reed Red, Tory MLA here in Alberta, Thomas Lukasik.

00:38:28.020 His people were setting up their petition signing to, to, I don't know, encourage us to maintain the status quo here in Alberta and not leave the country.

00:38:41.280 They were set up, and I had multiple reports of this, very near and sometimes within the same building of polling stations.

00:38:53.480 And elections Alberta would not normally allow this, but municipal elections are governed by the municipality and not elections Alberta.

00:39:01.140 So this could break rules in the municipalities, but also it's just so disgustingly unethical.

00:39:10.220 But what would I expect from Thomas Lukasik, who stuck, um, Alberta taxpayers with a cell phone bill of tens and tens and tens of thousands of dollars because he didn't know what roaming charges were.

00:39:27.700 Anyway, so that's who we're dealing with.

00:39:29.320 It's just so grossly unethical to do this stuff inside of a polling station.

00:39:33.840 There's a reason why they don't allow it at the federal level, at the provincial level.

00:39:38.700 And so out of just ethics, you shouldn't have done it at the municipal level.

00:39:43.580 But then there's Thomas Lukasik.

00:39:47.260 I got a letter from a school board trustee candidate.

00:39:51.960 I don't think it's necessary to say which person it is.

00:39:54.600 So we'll redact the name because I know what these people are like.

00:39:57.940 The Forever Canada people are vicious, vicious.

00:40:01.920 And as you, as we'll show you, quite unethical.

00:40:09.300 I got a letter on the night of the municipal election on this, and I'll just read it to you.

00:40:14.340 Just so you know who you're dealing with, with these Forever Canada people.

00:40:19.580 I'm reaching out as a candidate for school board trustee in St. Albert, Alberta, to raise concerns about inconsistent enforcement of election-related activity at municipal voting stations.

00:40:29.480 I was denied permission to set up an information table at Fountain Park Pool and Service Place to share details about my trustee campaign.

00:40:38.260 I respected that decision.

00:40:40.580 However, I since observed that representatives of the Forever Canada petition advocating for Alberta to remain in Canada were allowed to set up tables directly in front of Fountain Park and on church property at the Alliance Church voting station.

00:40:56.600 Well, that's selective application of the rules, isn't it?

00:41:02.380 The petition set up included Canadian flags, signage, and was promoted by individuals with clear political affiliations, for sure.

00:41:12.760 Candidate Sky Vermeulen's campaign materials feature the same branding.

00:41:18.040 Neil Korotash publicly stated that in the St. Albert Gazette that he intends to collect signatures for the petition, and Kevin Malinowski encouraged me to sign it in a public Facebook thread.

00:41:34.040 So, it's obviously political.

00:41:36.180 It's political campaigning right beside the polling station.

00:41:39.720 Actually, right at the church polling station.

00:41:45.380 Unbelievable.

00:41:47.260 This raises serious questions about fairness and consistency.

00:41:50.200 Boy, does it ever.

00:41:51.720 Why was my request denied while others were permitted to set up politically adjacent booths and voting stations?

00:41:57.620 I've documented the set up with photos and screenshots, and I've submitted a formal complaint to the returning officer.

00:42:05.560 As someone committed to student-first advocacy and respectful campaigning, I believe this story deserves public attention.

00:42:11.740 I'd be happy to provide further details or speak on the record.

00:42:15.960 Sincerely, Darcy, who is a candidate for the school board trustee.

00:42:21.740 Actually, you know what? Darcy said he's happy to speak on the record, so I'm going to give you his full name.

00:42:26.240 Darcy Dahlke, candidate for school board trustee in St. Albert. 0.96

00:42:30.820 I'm going to reach out to Darcy, but I just thought I would share this email that I got because this is garbage. 0.99

00:42:38.300 This is garbage. This is unfairness. 0.99

00:42:40.220 This is selective application of the rules, and even if it is within the rules, it's pretty garbage-y.

00:42:45.600 I'm going to ask you to do the rules of the Forever Canada campaign to collect petition signatures on their politically motivated campaign at polling stations or adjacent to polling stations.

00:43:01.680 And this isn't the first, as I said, instance that I saw of this. I've seen other photos.

00:43:06.620 This is atrocious, and if anything, the province should step in to possibly make a rule.

00:43:12.280 And I'm not somebody who's like, you know, there should be a rule about that.

00:43:15.960 Normally, I'm like, there should, no, government is very rarely the solution.

00:43:19.740 But when these people are playing fast and loose with the rules and violating what I think is the spirit of legislation, something probably should be done.

00:43:32.060 You know, these are the reasons we have, like, advice not to eat Tide Pods.

00:43:42.860 You know what I mean? It's just ridiculous. 0.96

00:43:46.300 Anyway, thanks so much for watching the show, guys.

00:43:49.300 Thanks so much for tuning in and sharing the show with people you think needs to see it.

00:43:55.180 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:43:58.900 And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:44:02.420 And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - October 23, 2025

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Liberal Gun Grab Collapses Again — Now Six Years of Amnesty for the Law-Abiding

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