Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Liberals prohibit Calgary-made rifle designed to comply with their regulations

00:00:00.000 They followed the rules, they built the gun, and then the government banned it anyway.

00:00:18.700 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:30.000 What happens when you follow every rule, design a Canadian-made sporting rifle to comply with the law, and then you build a business around it?

00:00:46.580 If you're J.R. Cox and the team at Sterling Arms in Calgary, well, you get banned anyway, and the government destroys your business.

00:00:53.720 No warning, no consultation, just a bureaucratic stroke of the pen that labels your compliant firearm prohibited, and then results in you closing your business and laying off your staff.

00:01:05.600 That's the story of the R9MK1, a non-restricted, non-military-style rifle that the Liberals suddenly decided looked too scary.

00:01:15.460 And just like that, workers are laid off, shelves are empty, and another Canadian firearms business is crushed under the weight of arbitrary regulation.

00:01:24.220 Elbows up, am I right?

00:01:25.800 Joining me tonight is Tracy Wilson from the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights to break down this targeted attack on legal gun owners and manufacturers,

00:01:34.880 and to ask the question we're all thinking.

00:01:37.120 If obeying the law isn't enough to stay in business, what hope does anyone in the firearms community have left?

00:01:44.340 Take a listen.

00:01:48.300 Joining me now is my friend Tracy Wilson from the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights,

00:01:52.280 and I want to have Tracy on the show all the time for very many reasons,

00:01:56.720 but what I really want to talk about is how the Elbows Up crowd are destroying Canadian businesses

00:02:03.780 with their unscientific firearms bans and a bunch more.

00:02:08.140 Tracy, thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:02:09.820 I wanted to have you on because I saw the destruction of Sterling Arms thanks to basically the stroke of a pen of a bureaucrat somewhere.

00:02:21.900 Explain this to us.

00:02:23.500 Yeah, that's right.

00:02:24.220 So Sterling Arms had come out with a solution that we thought to the Liberals' gun bans.

00:02:30.980 They had created a rifle that was C-21 compliant.

00:02:34.100 You know, it complied with the new bans.

00:02:36.860 It's similar to another firearm that ended up in the same fate.

00:02:40.820 So they introduced this new rifle to the market.

00:02:44.560 It was being used in sport competitions all across the country and internationally, actually.

00:02:49.780 And with the stroke of a pen, it was deemed prohibited.

00:02:54.000 Now, the problem with this is the Liberals keep using the term variant in order to ban more guns, right?

00:03:02.780 So even if the gun itself should be fine, they're deeming it a variant of one that isn't.

00:03:09.360 And the problem is we've asked them, the federal court has asked them, the Conservative Party has asked them.

00:03:15.520 It's been a very contentious issue for years, but they won't actually define what a variant is

00:03:20.140 because then, of course, it would take away the ability to continue to attack these legal, lawful Canadian family businesses.

00:03:28.500 So, yeah.

00:03:29.700 And this is the first business that this happened to.

00:03:34.200 It happened with the banning of the AR-15.

00:03:37.100 It happened with another firearm that was created to be compliant with the Liberals' very opaque piece of legislation.

00:03:46.540 Tell us about those ones.

00:03:48.380 Yeah, that's right.

00:03:49.000 So the Crusader Arms Crypto was another one that ended up in the exact same place.

00:03:54.400 So, you know, it was for sale in the Canadian market.

00:03:57.460 It was literally designed and manufactured to be C-21 compliant, to be Canadian compliant.

00:04:05.580 It was out on the market.

00:04:06.980 People were buying it.

00:04:07.920 People were using it.

00:04:08.880 And suddenly, again, with the stroke of a pen, it was deemed prohibited.

00:04:12.620 And unfortunately, these firearms, it doesn't appear.

00:04:16.880 I mean, I've written to the Canadian Firearms Program and to Public Safety for clarification on this.

00:04:22.320 But it doesn't appear that these will even fall under the amnesty or the buyback confiscation program that doesn't actually exist.

00:04:30.540 So what does that mean for the people who own them?

00:04:33.760 Like, if you've got one of these and you're not protected by the amnesty, you're in illegal possession of a prohibited device.

00:04:40.860 So, yeah, it's a problem.

00:04:43.680 It's a situation.

00:04:44.580 And it just continues to happen over and over.

00:04:47.720 And meanwhile, crime and violence is raging out of control from coast to coast.

00:04:51.780 Yeah, I mean, I don't think people, well, I think the firearms owning community and our friends and allies understand.

00:05:00.580 But this, these sort of bans, you can go to bed with your lawfully acquired material property in your gun safe.

00:05:13.240 It's not doing anything.

00:05:14.840 You followed all the rules and then wake up in the morning and you are in possession of an illegal firearm.

00:05:19.820 Because some corner bureaucrat decided this looks a little too cool.

00:05:25.040 We'll just shuffle that over into the banned list.

00:05:27.460 When I saw on Twitter the FRT entry, the firearms reference table, which is where classifications of different firearms are listed.

00:05:36.620 When I saw it floating around Twitter for the Sterling R9, I was like, wow, what?

00:05:44.340 Like, we just were talking about this rifle the day before.

00:05:47.200 I couldn't believe it.

00:05:48.160 And I thought, you know, maybe somebody made this.

00:05:50.560 Maybe it's fake with AI.

00:05:52.900 Who knows?

00:05:53.820 And I, so I took it off Twitter and I sent it to the manufacturer.

00:05:57.520 I sent it to J.R. Cox, who designed and manufactured this rifle.

00:06:02.440 And I said, is this real?

00:06:03.780 And he says, this is the first I'm seeing of it.

00:06:06.540 It's his gun.

00:06:07.960 He didn't even know.

00:06:09.880 So, I mean, it's wild.

00:06:11.500 And you think back through this whole thing.

00:06:13.600 They started banning guns back in May of 2020 after the Nova Scotia tragedy.

00:06:18.600 Throughout that, throughout committee, Justin Trudeau has stood at a pulpit and said it.

00:06:24.020 They said, don't worry, gun owners.

00:06:25.660 There are, you know, thousands, tens of thousands of other models of firearms that you can buy.

00:06:30.480 So, as time has progressed since May of 2020, they've routinely banned all those guns that we've been buying to replace the ones we can't use.

00:06:39.400 And yet, there's still somewhere between 500,000 and a million rifles that are now banned sitting safely in the safes of gun owners who've owned them safely for decades, if not generations, without issue.

00:06:51.820 And not a single crime is being committed.

00:06:54.300 So, yeah, I don't know where they're going with this, but it's got to stop.

00:07:00.300 Well, and there's zero accountability.

00:07:03.520 Like, you don't know even who's making these decisions.

00:07:06.180 I guess, ultimately, it's the Liberals who are accountable.

00:07:08.620 But these bans are happening outside of Parliament as just sort of a bureaucratic checkbox.

00:07:15.940 You never even really know who's doing this to you outside of the Liberals making sure that the RCMP Firearms Office still has this power.

00:07:25.360 But from my lips to God's ears, if the Conservatives ever get back into power, these sort of bans must go before Parliament because you are criminalizing people with no proof, no data, no anything, and no way for us to even know who's doing it to us.

00:07:43.280 Well, and they're not notifying anyone.

00:07:46.120 So I've got all kinds of friends who own one of those rifles, and they don't even know it's been banned.

00:07:51.440 People are showing up at their local rod and gun clubs to shoot on a Sunday afternoon, not knowing that their gun is prohibited.

00:07:58.080 What happens if they got pulled over?

00:07:59.620 And that's the problem when you've got bureaucrats in the RCMP Firearms Lab who are making these decisions arbitrarily, telling nobody, notifying no gun owners.

00:08:10.840 You know, there's not even an email that goes out.

00:08:13.460 They've got our information.

00:08:15.080 I send mass emails every Friday afternoon.

00:08:17.200 It's very simple to do.

00:08:19.000 They don't notify a single person, so people don't even know it's been banned.

00:08:23.320 The guy who designed the rifle didn't even know it was banned when I sent it to him.

00:08:28.820 So, you know, this isn't the way that it should work in a society where we respect our citizens.

00:08:35.840 Gun owners are Canada's most vetted, trusted people, and yet we're treated like simple criminals, while actual violent criminals are being let out of jail the same day they're committing their crimes.

00:08:47.660 Yeah, I was looking at the crime stats the other day because my mother-in-law was fighting with somebody on the internet, and violent crime has gone up 40% since 2014, and yet instead of actually directly addressing that, dealing with bail, by the way, instead we continue to target Canadian gun owners, and low estimates put the cost of the gun grab at $343 million, like a third of a billion dollars.

00:09:17.260 I think it is closer to Gary Mauser over at the Fraser Institute, his estimate.

00:09:22.320 I don't know if you saw that.

00:09:23.220 He said it might reach $6 billion.

00:09:26.040 Yeah.

00:09:26.300 I think that's probably more reasonable when you factor in the cost of policing, when you factor in the cost of identifying firearms, and you don't have a clue where they are because you've decided to move them from non-restricted to prohibited.

00:09:41.740 Yeah.

00:09:42.520 Think of how much could be fixed with $6 billion.

00:09:45.580 Yeah, well, and there's a couple of factors there that nobody's talking about.

00:09:50.120 When the government came out with their, you know, $343 million or whatever, that didn't include the cost of administrating the program, which will far outweigh the cost of any kind of compensation, which they're also low-balling.

00:10:06.240 I think Bill Blair said there's 178,000 rifles out there that have been banned.

00:10:10.960 Well, 97,000 of those are AR-15s.

00:10:14.540 It is impossible that all the other 2,000-plus models and variants only equal up to, you know, 70,000 rifles.

00:10:24.360 Like, it's impossible.

00:10:25.180 We are talking anywhere, like I said, between half a million to a million guns.

00:10:29.780 And the cost of administrating this, like, right from the very beginning, I've said it's virtually impossible because Canada is such a wide and vast and massive country.

00:10:40.120 They're in every nook and cranny of the nation, and they have no idea who's got them or where they are.

00:10:46.180 And they just continue to ban more.

00:10:48.460 People have given up even checking if their gun is banned.

00:10:51.940 People don't even care.

00:10:53.720 You know, it's a total mess.

00:10:55.820 It's impossible to do.

00:10:57.280 And here we are five years later, and they still haven't managed, thankfully, to confiscate a single rifle from any individuals.

00:11:06.000 So it's obviously not an actual public safety issue.

00:11:09.960 This is, you know, leftovers from the divisive Trudeau-era policies.

00:11:15.320 So, man.

00:11:16.100 Yeah, I mean, this is one of those times where I cheer for government ineptitude.

00:11:20.940 Yes. 0.99

00:11:22.020 Like, go be crappy, government. 0.96

00:11:24.580 Make sure you don't do anything efficiently. 0.94

00:11:26.740 This is one of those times where I'm strongly in favor of that.

00:11:29.700 But, you know, when you're just listening to your numbers there, if we were a problem, you'd know it.

00:11:37.260 Oh, yeah.

00:11:37.560 We're just not reflected in the crime stats at all.

00:11:40.040 Well, I wanted to talk to you about this recent LaPresse article.

00:11:46.260 And it's pretty clear that LaPresse is catching up to the gun blog's previous reporting on ECOS polling data that was, I think it was done out of the Privy Council.

00:11:58.360 They conducted a 148-question deep dive into the minds of lawful gun owners because I guess they're trying to pull a sigh up on us.

00:12:09.060 They want to know why we won't comply or what our problem is.

00:12:12.620 I'm so angry.

00:12:13.840 Well, why?

00:12:15.420 And so to get better buy-in into the gun grab.

00:12:21.620 And it cost $100,000.

00:12:24.000 And what they found was gun owners don't trust the government.

00:12:27.900 No.

00:12:28.640 I could have told you that.

00:12:30.500 Yeah, I could have saved them some money there.

00:12:32.100 One of the things that I found a great source of pride for me was more than two-thirds of the respondents said they don't trust the feds to make good decisions about firearms in the public interest.

00:12:44.280 But in Alberta, that distrust jumps to 81%.

00:12:49.560 Yeah, unsurprising.

00:12:50.940 Yeah, and then over, they could only find nine people out of the 1,700-plus people that they polled who actually thought that firearms owners would 100% comply with the gun bans.

00:13:09.200 I'm surprised there's nine people out there.

00:13:11.240 They must be, you know, maybe.

00:13:12.560 I know, it seems high.

00:13:13.280 Yeah, older, elbows-up, boomer gun owners or something.

00:13:16.620 I don't know.

00:13:17.240 Yeah.

00:13:18.440 Yeah.

00:13:19.220 Go ahead.

00:13:19.800 I mean, gun owners have good reason not to trust the government, right?

00:13:22.880 I mean, I always talk about the social contract, so to speak, between gun owners and the government and gun owners and law enforcement.

00:13:30.440 And the deal was, you go and take the courses and you submit yourself to all those background checks and the application process, and you include your spouse in that information, and they contact them to make sure that it's okay you have guns.

00:13:43.520 Yep.

00:13:43.980 If you're not married, you've got to divulge anyone you've slept with over the last two years.

00:13:48.060 Yeah.

00:13:48.260 It's really invasive, and then you're subjected to a 24-hour background check through CPIC.

00:13:54.700 And the idea was, if you go through all this, and you go through the vetting, and you're trusted, you're trained, then they would leave you alone.

00:14:02.160 And apparently, that's not true.

00:14:03.560 So some of these guns we've owned for, you know, for decades, if not generations.

00:14:08.580 And all of a sudden, now, the government's moving the goalposts.

00:14:12.340 So if the idea here is we're going to have strict gun control regime, which Canada has, one of the strictest in the world, but you're going to have buy-in from gun owners,

00:14:22.040 after everything they've subjected themselves to just for the simple fact of wanting to own a firearm and be a hunter or sports shooter, and then you come back and say it's still not enough, we're still going to take your stuff, I'm surprised there are nine people out there who think that there will be 100% buy-in.

00:14:39.420 Because I don't think there will be at all.

00:14:41.880 I think it'll be extremely low and extremely poor.

00:14:45.000 And eventually, I think they're going to have to abandon the idea altogether.

00:14:49.820 For sure.

00:14:51.280 You know, and there's a cultural divide in that data.

00:14:54.260 They said 56% of Albertans, again, the highest number polled, said that firearms ownership is an important part of their identity and their culture.

00:15:04.140 I think the gun grab fuels Western separatism.

00:15:10.740 When you look at the numbers out of Saskatchewan, they said that for them it was the highest number of people who said that they are unfairly targeted by federal policy at 88% in Saskatchewan.

00:15:23.240 This is for firearms owners, you look and you say, well, these people don't understand who we are, and we're being unfairly blamed for rising crime in Toronto and Montreal and Vancouver.

00:15:36.840 And it's a slap in the face.

00:15:39.440 Yeah.

00:15:39.880 Well, it is.

00:15:40.820 And I mean, you know, a lot of people say to me, I'm an old grandma from the suburbs, right?

00:15:45.800 And people say, why are guns so important to you?

00:15:48.140 Like, why do they matter so much to you?

00:15:50.780 And for me, it is part of my identity.

00:15:53.760 It's my entire social circle.

00:15:55.640 It's my extracurricular activities.

00:15:58.240 After work or on weekends, when I travel throughout the summer, my circle of friends, everybody I know comes from the firearms community.

00:16:06.300 And we've built this massive network across the country.

00:16:09.480 We've got, you know, all these shooting disciplines.

00:16:12.340 People are really invested in it.

00:16:13.900 And when you've done something for decades and decades and built this whole life around it, and then for somebody to say, go do something else.

00:16:22.600 Nobody else is treated this way in this country.

00:16:25.620 And what happens is you're going, you know, for the most part, we've had really good compliance.

00:16:31.100 Gun owners have followed the rules and regulations in exchange for being able to own the things that they do.

00:16:36.280 So when you move those goalposts, you're going to see less and less compliance.

00:16:40.360 And nobody wants that.

00:16:42.080 You know, I want a safer country.

00:16:43.600 And I want things to be fair and equal.

00:16:46.460 And they're not.

00:16:48.040 So, yeah, this will be an interesting thing to watch with the new prime minister and see what direction he takes it in.

00:16:56.760 But so far, just like Trudeau, he's failed on this too.

00:16:59.960 Yeah, I think when he chose the former head of Pauly Sissouviant to be an MP, I think that was a harbinger of things to come for the rest of us.

00:17:11.600 In this federal government data too, I see they discovered something that they probably wish they hadn't.

00:17:19.400 And that was that, I think it's roughly one in three respondents own more than five firearms.

00:17:27.820 And most said they use them for target shooting, not hunting.

00:17:33.480 So the thing the liberals always say is, what do you need this to shoot a deer?

00:17:39.700 But that's not what people are doing with the firearms anyway.

00:17:42.900 Yeah.

00:17:43.500 And it's not the government's business.

00:17:45.460 That's right.

00:17:46.020 Well, there's 2.4 million licensed gun owners in the country right now.

00:17:50.780 But there's only 1.3 million hunting licenses.

00:17:54.700 Right.

00:17:54.960 So to me that, you know, we're about a 50-50 split.

00:17:58.340 Now there's lots of people like me and you who do both.

00:18:01.040 Right.

00:18:01.880 But yeah, there are a lot of people who are gun owners who do not hunt at all.

00:18:06.720 And I think that's, you know, those are the people they've targeted most.

00:18:10.760 Those are the people who probably spend the most money on this lifestyle and this sport and collecting.

00:18:18.200 So, yeah, I don't know where we go from here with these guys, but I think it's pretty clear that they're trying to hang on to this.

00:18:28.980 But I don't think they're going to get it done.

00:18:30.800 You know what?

00:18:33.200 Again, I'm cheering so hard for government ineptitude.

00:18:37.260 You know, like Mark Carney's considering austerity, whatever that looks like when you're liberal.

00:18:44.300 But I think this is one of those big places that he could start.

00:18:47.440 If he cares about the harmony of confederation, he better not try to pull this stuff with Western Canadians because he's going to have a fight on his hands from our premiers.

00:18:58.120 And then he will be stoking the flames of Western separation.

00:19:02.160 I wanted to ask you about the issue of grandfathering because it is divisive in the firearms community.

00:19:10.220 Some people will say it is a concession to the other side when people find themselves through no fault of their own with banned firearms.

00:19:23.200 Tell me what you've been up to on this issue. 0.92

00:19:25.940 Well, if you would have told me three or four years ago that I'd be advocating for grandfathering, I would have told you you're crazy.

00:19:33.440 I've always rejected it entirely because it is delayed confiscation.

00:19:39.220 Right.

00:19:39.380 The reality check of the situation that we find ourselves in now is you can have delayed confiscation or you can have immediate confiscation.

00:19:46.580 Now, I look at it as a temporary solution.

00:19:49.280 It's something that I have been lobbying for, both with the Liberal government and encouraging Conservative lawmakers to suggest to their Liberal colleagues.

00:20:01.560 And this is the normal, traditional way that bans of guns were handled.

00:20:06.400 You'll remember back in the 70s, the actual assault weapons ban.

00:20:10.980 People who owned full auto were—they didn't have their doors kicked in and their guns confiscated.

00:20:16.080 They didn't have any of this.

00:20:17.220 What they had was they had a special permission added to their license.

00:20:21.320 They were allowed to keep their firearms.

00:20:23.700 They were allowed to use them at ranges.

00:20:25.540 They could buy and sell amongst each other, and they could leave them to their heirs.

00:20:29.600 So, you know, upon their death, it wasn't a total loss.

00:20:33.460 And naturally, through attrition, eventually, these things kind of, you know, go away.

00:20:38.660 They disappear, yeah.

00:20:39.860 Yeah.

00:20:40.320 But, I mean, we're kind of up against a rock and a hard place here.

00:20:44.320 We've got either immediate confiscation by some kind of Liberal program that they slapped together.

00:20:50.300 That's going to be a huge mess, cause big problems for law enforcement and gun owners alike.

00:20:55.840 Or, alternatively, and be really expensive.

00:20:59.340 I mean, for a government that's looking to cut 7.5% from every department, where are you going to cut in public safety other than this, right?

00:21:07.740 So you can save the taxpayer billions of dollars by foregoing this whole idea of collecting people's guns that they use safely, and then using taxpayer dollars to pay them for them.

00:21:19.600 In some cases, these would be tens of thousands of dollars per gun.

00:21:22.540 So the idea here is, everything you own now that's been recently prohibited since May of 2020 would stay prohibited, but you would get a provision on your license to allow you to go to the range and shoot them.

00:21:37.060 You and I could buy and sell between each other, you know, and other people with that same provision on their license.

00:21:42.900 And then, like I said, I could leave them to my girls upon my death.

00:21:47.320 So, you know, it also kicks the can down the road a little bit, buys a little more time.

00:21:53.620 You know, if and when we have another election, if we have a different outcome, a more positive result, then you can look at repealing stuff.

00:22:01.000 But for now, I think it's a good solution for everybody, including the Liberal government, who, as I said, is looking to put in some austerity measures.

00:22:11.780 And instead of cutting funding to law enforcement or border security or, you know, stopping the flow of illicit guns across the border or fentanyl or CBSA or all of these things that, you know, need to be looked after in order to get our country on the safe track again.

00:22:28.860 And the money that would have gone to, you know, angering gun owners can go to those places instead.

00:22:37.660 So I think it's a better use of resources.

00:22:40.320 I know some people may, you know, reel in horror at me saying that, but at the same time, take a hard reality check on where we're at.

00:22:48.980 And this is this is what we're up against.

00:22:50.760 So, yeah, it's something I'm working very hard on right now with my colleagues.

00:22:55.400 And like I said, I think it's a temporary measure and I think it's palatable to most people.

00:23:02.420 Yeah.

00:23:02.780 You know, you're right to say that we need to deal in reality.

00:23:06.060 And I understand the other viewpoint on this, that you you should not compromise on a bad law.

00:23:13.020 But the reality of it is it buys conservative time to repeal these because you cannot uncrush somebody's family heirlooms.

00:23:22.580 That's right.

00:23:23.000 Once once they're gone, they're gone.

00:23:25.220 So this keeps these guns where they belong safely in the hands of their law abiding owners until such time as a future conservative government is able to make those changes.

00:23:36.560 And it is a good escape hatch for the liberals optically to say, like, look, we are proceeding with our gun bans, but we are taking the financially responsible way out of this by allowing these to stay in the hands of the people who already have them.

00:23:57.020 I think it's a solution that works for everybody for now.

00:24:00.180 So, yeah, like I said, it's a for now thing.

00:24:03.340 I don't I don't love it.

00:24:04.960 Who does?

00:24:05.900 But yeah, I mean, we're not in a position to bargain for anything else to think that Mark Carney is going to repeal all these gun bans.

00:24:14.160 That is not going to happen.

00:24:15.320 However, I do think there's an avenue here for a compromise, a temporary compromise.

00:24:21.420 And I think if gun owners could continue to use the stuff that's been locked up for years now, I think that would be a win. 0.79

00:24:28.540 People could go back out and hunt with their hunting rifles again, use their sporting rifles.

00:24:33.500 Competitions could ramp up retailers, although they may not be able to stock new firearms that fall into those categories.

00:24:41.240 They'd be able to stock all kinds of accessories and implements that people would buy.

00:24:46.260 Like it would not be 100 percent solution, but it would be a heck of a lot better than where we are.

00:24:52.720 And at the end of the day, if they don't do this and they go ahead with confiscations, the moment those guns start getting confiscated from gun owners, it doesn't matter who the leader is or which party is in power.

00:25:05.240 Nobody's ever going to reel it back that far again.

00:25:07.460 So, you know, that's my reality check for people who may be listening to this and saying, what is she nuts?

00:25:14.700 No, I've thought long and hard about this.

00:25:16.740 And, you know, it's kind of, you know, I've anguished over it, but I have to be realistic and do the best thing for gun owners.

00:25:24.860 So that's the direction that we are moving forward in.

00:25:27.700 Yeah, yeah.

00:25:28.380 This keeps the guns in the hands of the people who own them.

00:25:30.960 And it, as you said, it kicks the can down the road.

00:25:34.980 I think it's a good out for everybody.

00:25:38.380 It's not ideal.

00:25:39.020 Well, nobody wants to live in like the, one of the most restrictive gun regimes in the entire Western world.

00:25:46.900 But here we are.

00:25:48.280 Yeah.

00:25:48.860 But, and that is thanks to the voting habits of this country.

00:25:52.140 Now, Tracy, I heard because of, through an investigative journalism project that you are working very hard on behalf of gun owners.

00:26:00.780 I believe the other side of it would say, oh, my God, look at the gun lobby.

00:26:05.200 And I'm looking at it thinking, look how hard that woman is working. 1.00

00:26:08.440 Eleven lobby meetings in two days.

00:26:11.160 You're working hard on behalf of people like me and the gun owners across the country.

00:26:16.560 What's next for you guys at the CCFR?

00:26:19.440 Well, it's tough with the summer here, of course.

00:26:21.820 You know, just when things were kind of ramping up and we had an election and, you know, the country's supposedly in crisis.

00:26:27.320 Of course, there's a giant summer break.

00:26:29.980 They're off till mid-September.

00:26:31.580 Yeah.

00:26:32.020 Now, I know there are some meetings going on and some reconvening of different committees.

00:26:36.560 But we're using this summer to sort of gear up.

00:26:40.140 We've got some projects around the grandfathering issue.

00:26:42.940 And meetings will continue.

00:26:45.040 But sort of ramping up, getting ready for them to come back.

00:26:48.280 Because the amnesty that protects gun owners from the first two gun bans, of course, is going to expire at the end of October.

00:26:55.000 So there's going to be a short runway there to get something done.

00:26:59.540 Because one of two things is going to happen.

00:27:01.500 Either they're going to have to extend the amnesty and all the bad press that comes along with that.

00:27:05.900 It looks bad, right?

00:27:07.160 These are, you know, weapons of war, you know, meant to kill the most amount of people or whatever it is that liberals say.

00:27:15.340 And yet, here we are.

00:27:16.760 It'll be going on six years.

00:27:18.140 They just keep kicking their own can down the road.

00:27:20.940 Right.

00:27:21.080 So that's going to look bad for them and upset the anti-gun lobbies.

00:27:24.460 Or they could take the avenue that we are suggesting, which will also be a bad news day for them.

00:27:29.960 You know, it'll look like they're kind of flip-flopping on the issue.

00:27:34.280 And they will also anchor the anti-gun lobbies.

00:27:36.420 But there will be a lot of wins in that, right?

00:27:39.380 It'll have some finality to it.

00:27:41.180 It'll make it a dead issue.

00:27:42.820 It'll save taxpayers a ton of money.

00:27:44.620 It will be encouraging to law enforcement.

00:27:47.480 And it'll be supported by most Canadians.

00:27:49.680 So our focus is, of course, making sure that message is palatable.

00:27:54.580 If we've got to put TV commercials on legacy TV, that's what we'll do.

00:27:59.720 We'll do anything that we can to make sure that this message gets out.

00:28:04.020 And we can get that somewhat of a little bit of a reprieve.

00:28:09.700 Now, that sort of hard work and information campaign does not come cheap.

00:28:15.740 So how do people get involved in the CCFR and support this important work that you're doing?

00:28:21.300 Yeah, well, you can read all about us and check out everything we're doing at ccfr.ca.

00:28:25.280 We've also got a free mobile app for both Android and Apple.

00:28:29.020 And that's really important.

00:28:30.340 Go to the App Store and download CCFR app.

00:28:32.860 It's free to download.

00:28:34.540 You can get news alerts on there.

00:28:36.640 Every Friday, we update all the news stories.

00:28:39.620 We're not going to spam you with stuff that's not important.

00:28:43.840 We send one email out a week.

00:28:46.040 But that app is like a direct link to the CCFR that isn't reliant on social media that may not be friendly.

00:28:52.760 We've also got the biweekly podcast, CCFR Radio, and the TV show on Wild TV, CCFR Radio on the air.

00:29:00.040 So you can find us anywhere you're looking.

00:29:02.360 If you can't find us, then there's something wrong with you.

00:29:04.820 But yes, we are everywhere.

00:29:06.700 We need all the help we can get.

00:29:08.820 It isn't the time to slow down.

00:29:10.260 It's the time to ramp up.

00:29:11.340 And that's exactly what we're doing.

00:29:12.820 We also, just two weeks ago, applied for leave to the Supreme Court of Canada in our court challenge against the gun ban.

00:29:19.580 We haven't heard back yet.

00:29:21.200 But I'm hoping that they agree to hear it on the basis that it is of national interest to the citizens.

00:29:27.480 So, you know, we're still fighting it that way, too.

00:29:30.620 I'd rather have it overturned than accept grandfathering.

00:29:32.980 But we're going to work for both at the same time.

00:29:35.160 Yeah, I mean, you have to fight on every single battlefront.

00:29:39.200 And you also have one of the best firearms merch stores in North America, and I'm including the NRA in that.

00:29:46.120 And I like their merch.

00:29:47.180 So it's great.

00:29:48.480 It's cheeky.

00:29:50.460 But very well done.

00:29:52.480 Thank you.

00:29:53.260 Yeah, I take great pride in the store.

00:29:56.640 I think it's a lot of fun.

00:29:57.680 There's tons of stuff on there for girls, guys, whatever you're into.

00:30:01.700 There's really good drinkware on there as well.

00:30:04.700 And, yeah, great swag.

00:30:06.840 I love wearing it.

00:30:08.020 Yeah, me too.

00:30:09.180 Tracy, thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:30:10.960 It's been too long in between.

00:30:12.980 And I plan to correct that in the future.

00:30:15.480 Thanks so much for the hard work you do on behalf of families just like mine.

00:30:18.640 And we're going to keep at it.

00:30:20.260 And thanks for the opportunity.

00:30:29.040 Well, as always, I turn over the last portion of the show to you because without you, there's no rebel news.

00:30:34.160 You've been with us for 10 plus years supporting us in a time of intense censorship while the federal government has been trying to break us.

00:30:46.620 You've helped us live on.

00:30:48.140 And so I believe you should always be able to have your say.

00:30:52.660 So last portion of the show, it's the comment section.

00:30:56.080 It's the mailbag.

00:30:56.900 If you have comments to me about the work that I do, you can email them to me at Sheila at rebelnews.com.

00:31:05.100 Super easy.

00:31:05.980 Sheila at rebelnews.com.

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00:31:48.840 Now, today's comments come on my expose that I did late last week on how the media in this province

00:31:59.780 completely botched the library standards announcement coming out of the provincial government.

00:32:05.660 So, by way of background, the provincial government has announced a series of standards for libraries in school.

00:32:15.480 And basically, it gets the smut and gay erotica out of the elementary school libraries. 0.94

00:32:20.560 If you're arguing that there's a place for that stuff in elementary school libraries, I would like to see your hard drives. 0.86

00:32:27.840 And stay away from me and my children.

00:32:31.440 Everybody's children.

00:32:32.260 Stay away from playgrounds, too, while you're at it.

00:32:35.660 And the media, even though they had an embargoed copy of the announcement, a full fact deck given to media,

00:32:47.340 and access to the politicians in advance to be able to ask questions to clarify,

00:32:53.280 they all reported that it removed medical content from the libraries, like stuff about puberty and all those things,

00:33:03.020 as well as hand-holding, kissing, all those sorts of things removed from the libraries, too.

00:33:14.440 Which was definitely not true, and it was very clear in the information deck that we all got.

00:33:21.640 You see, I didn't get the story wrong.

00:33:24.740 They actually had...

00:33:25.440 I want to reiterate, the announcement, three hours in advance, to write a proper story, to read it, to write a story, which is what I did.

00:33:37.740 And I didn't get it wrong.

00:33:39.020 But they all got it wrong.

00:33:40.760 Global News, I think Globe and Mail.

00:33:43.520 There was another one, The Breakdown, who regularly have, I believe, mental breakdowns.

00:33:50.380 But, they got it wrong, too, and it just spread like wildfire.

00:33:55.340 What's the old saying?

00:33:56.740 The lie can go around the world before the truth even gets its pants on?

00:34:01.020 Well, that's exactly what happened.

00:34:03.900 It was so bad that late in the day, on the very same day, the press secretary for the education minister,

00:34:11.260 Gary Kohler, I believe his name is,

00:34:14.140 our education minister is Demetrius Nikolaidis,

00:34:16.740 he had to issue a statement to the media saying,

00:34:22.080 get it right, this is what it says.

00:34:25.940 And so then they updated all their reporting.

00:34:28.980 Anyway, I documented how they got it wrong, and I peeled back the veneer.

00:34:33.840 I wanted to show you the embargoed documents that we got shortly after 9 a.m.

00:34:42.780 when the announcement would go live at noon.

00:34:46.740 And I wanted to show you that the media got it wrong purposefully.

00:34:53.280 Because there's no way they could have fudged those facts.

00:34:57.980 They had the facts in hand.

00:34:59.200 They just reported something entirely different.

00:35:02.020 And so I showed you copies of the embargoed documents.

00:35:04.540 I showed you the timestamps on my emails.

00:35:06.460 I showed you what the media reported.

00:35:08.140 I also showed you how it was, the lies were so bad that the press secretary by 4 o'clock in the afternoon had to send out another press release demanding that the media correct their misinformation.

00:35:21.260 I showed you it all.

00:35:24.240 Because I thought it was important for you to see that this wasn't an innocent mistake.

00:35:29.880 Or at least that you could make up your mind with the facts at hand.

00:35:33.520 Like, I don't think it was an innocent mistake.

00:35:35.540 But you could look at it and say, there's no possible way that's an innocent mistake.

00:35:40.480 Or, you know, maybe you would write it off the other way. 1.00

00:35:43.420 Maybe you just think they're idiots. 1.00

00:35:44.560 I mean, that's a strong possibility, too. 1.00

00:35:47.060 I think both things can be true. 1.00

00:35:49.060 I think the mainstream media can be both idiots but also sinister. 0.99

00:35:54.900 Anyway, you guys had some strong reactions to that reporting. 1.00

00:36:00.420 Because I did.

00:36:01.400 I pulled the curtain back so you could see what a government announcement actually looks like for journalists on the other side.

00:36:09.660 You guys just see the announcement and the reporting.

00:36:11.580 I wanted to show you what happens before the announcement.

00:36:15.740 Before you hear and see our stories or read our stories.

00:36:20.220 We get the announcement in advance.

00:36:25.400 Now, we can't talk about it because we're under an embargo.

00:36:27.960 But we get it in advance.

00:36:30.900 Victor J. Adams 4220 writes,

00:36:35.060 Reporters who misrepresented the story should be penalized, their employers fined, and both prohibited from news briefings for a period of time.

00:36:43.560 It's called accountability.

00:36:44.460 Old-fashioned, I know, but it worked back in the day and should be brought back.

00:36:47.420 Look, I don't even want that.

00:36:49.980 I don't want that.

00:36:51.880 I think if you want to report misinformation, that's your business.

00:36:54.280 If you want to damage the trust you have with the public, that's fine.

00:36:59.900 Because I think I serve as a counterbalance.

00:37:01.660 I don't think many of you understood before I did that piece just how much work goes into making sure the journalists get the story right,

00:37:14.720 that they have the ability to ask questions, and they have all the facts in advance,

00:37:18.560 and they get time to read it before the announcement goes live.

00:37:22.620 And they, I wanted you to know that they're getting it wrong on purpose.

00:37:29.380 And what I want, and that's their business.

00:37:34.500 If they want to damage their credibility, that's okay.

00:37:38.340 What I want is for you to not to have to pay for it.

00:37:41.460 Because all of those outlets are subsidized in one way or another.

00:37:45.320 And they can lie.

00:37:47.220 I just don't want them to do it with your money.

00:37:51.700 That's all.

00:37:54.760 S. Jambler says,

00:37:56.680 This is a long-standing problem in Alberta schools.

00:37:59.080 I was at elementary school in Calgary in the 1960s.

00:38:02.180 No playboy, no hustler on the bookshelves of the school library.

00:38:05.380 Clearly repressive.

00:38:06.780 I've never recovered from the trauma.

00:38:08.620 Yeah, I mean, the argument I see from the crazy people who are not in favor of library standards, 0.92

00:38:17.440 they're generally a bunch of childless weirdos, by the way. 0.92

00:38:20.960 The kind of people who self-sterilize through cross-sex hormones, 0.95

00:38:24.440 or who think that children are some sort of plague upon the face of the overpopulated earth.

00:38:31.180 And so out of responsibility to the climate, they've decided not to have children.

00:38:35.940 Whatever.

00:38:36.300 Whatever.

00:38:36.920 You know, I think children are always a net good in the world.

00:38:40.780 And you should have as many of them as you want.

00:38:44.140 As you can care for.

00:38:45.460 And you can probably care for more than you think.

00:38:48.940 But a lot of those childless freak shows are saying,

00:38:55.140 Well, kids can get access to it on their cell phones or whatever.

00:38:58.860 That may be true.

00:39:00.520 But once again, I don't want it in the school library.

00:39:04.040 If kids want to look at smut,

00:39:07.660 then let them find another way that isn't at the school.

00:39:15.160 Of all the places in the world where smut shouldn't be,

00:39:18.940 I believe school is that.

00:39:20.700 And yes, they can access it in other places in the world.

00:39:25.720 Okay, that's not an argument for it to be in the school though.

00:39:28.480 Right?

00:39:29.880 Because what if they're like me?

00:39:31.760 A parent who is responsible about their children's cell phone use.

00:39:35.580 But that stuff is available at school where they're for seven hours a day without me.

00:39:43.920 I can deal with the cell phone stuff.

00:39:45.940 I can deal with the internet stuff.

00:39:47.240 I'm pretty savvy.

00:39:48.500 But there's seven hours a day that they are without me. 0.84

00:39:51.760 And I don't want the gay erotica at them. 1.00

00:39:57.280 Right? 0.98

00:39:58.260 Again, saying, well, they can get it on their cell phone.

00:40:00.860 That's not exactly an argument.

00:40:02.400 That's actually giving up.

00:40:04.940 And it makes you wonder why they're giving up.

00:40:07.240 Right?

00:40:10.300 BXBA4583 says,

00:40:11.000 Why does Canada have to be so odd?

00:40:12.900 Look, don't lump us in with the rest of them.

00:40:16.160 In Alberta, we're trying to do the right thing.

00:40:18.380 I believe Saskatchewan, now inspired by the bravery of our Premier Daniel Smith,

00:40:23.680 is considering much the same.

00:40:26.560 Get the smut out of the elementary schools. 0.92

00:40:29.240 Like, in the original announcement, a couple of months ago, for the library standards,

00:40:35.460 they included copies of some of the stuff that they had found in the libraries.

00:40:39.100 And, whew, made me uncomfortable.

00:40:44.000 I'm a prude.

00:40:45.000 But, it was still nothing.

00:40:47.960 Nothing a nine-year-old should see.

00:40:53.840 Jenny, G8923 says,

00:40:58.540 The information was poisoned indeed.

00:41:02.180 In my workplace, my big team was discussing how absurd it is that Alberta government banned literature in libraries educating kids about sexuality, etc.

00:41:13.420 That is not what they banned.

00:41:15.660 I thought to myself, it sounds weird.

00:41:17.340 Well, here you go.

00:41:18.060 Next time I have to ask what source provides the information.

00:41:21.140 Yeah.

00:41:22.460 Yeah.

00:41:23.040 They didn't ban that.

00:41:25.320 They didn't ban coming-of-age books.

00:41:27.940 They didn't ban teen romance novels.

00:41:31.260 Even with implied romantic situations, what they did was they made those age-appropriate and they banned the graphic erotica from kids.

00:41:47.960 And anybody arguing against a government doing that is a weirdo.

00:41:53.800 And, I don't want you anywhere near me.

00:41:55.660 Let me reiterate. 0.99

00:41:56.960 You're a weirdo. 0.99

00:41:58.700 I don't want you near me or my lovely, well-adjusted children. 1.00

00:42:03.560 You can just die alone and your cats can eat you. 1.00

00:42:07.500 Okay. 0.92

00:42:07.940 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:42:09.360 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:42:10.540 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place, perhaps.

00:42:14.460 And, remember, as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:42:18.380 I'll see you next week.

Rebel News Podcast - July 17, 2025

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Liberals prohibit Calgary-made rifle designed to comply with their regulations

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