Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Mark Carney proposes 'hidden carbon tax' plan that limits consumer choice

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00:00:40.580 April 1st is April Fool's Day and the jokes on Canadians with a carbon tax hike.

00:01:01.020 I'm Sheila Gunnareed and you're watching The Gun Show.

00:01:20.540 It is unfathomably cold outside right now in Alberta. I'm actually quite surprised that

00:01:27.680 we're not getting our seasonal, hey, don't plug in your car to keep the block heater working because

00:01:33.820 we don't have enough electricity on the grid warnings that we get in winters gone by thanks

00:01:41.320 to the early phase out of coal-fired generation on our electricity grid. Thanks, NDP.

00:01:46.680 And in the middle of all of this, while it is expensive to just stay alive here in Canada,

00:01:54.320 the Liberals are jacking up the carbon tax on April 1st. Now, one of the reasons we have a carbon tax

00:02:02.100 is the prospective new leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, Mark Carney. He's a global bankster who's

00:02:11.280 been pushing for a global carbon tax and he's been in the ear of Justin Trudeau at least officially

00:02:18.040 for the last half decade. And he says now, oh, our highly unpopular carbon tax, we're doing away with

00:02:28.020 the consumer version of this. We're going to hide it in other ways. And joining me today is my friend,

00:02:34.460 Chris Sims, from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, to explain exactly how that's going to happen. Take a listen.

00:02:45.220 So joining me now is a good friend of the show, my personal good friend, Chris Sims, and best friend

00:02:52.740 to the struggling Canadian taxpayer. It's Chris Sims, the Alberta Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:03:00.460 Chris, thanks for joining me on this bitterly cold Alberta day. First thing I want to talk about is how

00:03:09.420 the weather in Alberta is going to get even more expensive going forward on April 1st, despite the

00:03:18.860 fact that the reason it's going to get more expensive is one of the most unpopular policies

00:03:24.880 of the Trudeau Liberals over the last 10 years. And that's saying something. Big time, big time. So I

00:03:31.080 don't like using this word often because governments use it to manipulate people. But we're kind of in an

00:03:36.380 emergency right now. If you like lower taxes, less waste and smaller, more accountable government.

00:03:42.740 And we're in an emergency right now because the mainstream media and the governing set, as I often

00:03:49.500 call them that usually live between Quebec and Windsor in that corridor, they are currently so

00:03:55.020 distracted by the Trump tariffs, that they are not paying close enough attention to what the heck is

00:04:02.640 going on in Ottawa, and also within the liberal leadership race. So number one, you're right, it is

00:04:10.180 so flippin cold here. Here in Lethbridge this morning, it was minus 42 with the wind chill. And I'm one of those

00:04:17.220 people that factors in the wind chill because it's windy. Yeah, that's what it feels like. So that's

00:04:22.440 what I'm going to dress for. Yeah, exactly. Yesterday, my front door was frozen solid. I couldn't get to

00:04:29.480 let my kids out to go to the bus. They were all like bundled up like they were going to find a

00:04:33.360 tauntaun somewhere. Oh, that's cool. You guys have the buses running. Ours have not been.

00:04:39.400 So I shouldn't complain. At least the school buses are still running. They're tough. And so this morning,

00:04:45.280 again, it is super cold. It's in the minus 40s with the wind, even without the wind, it's minus 30.

00:04:50.020 So all that saying, if we didn't heat our homes, and warm up our trucks and dress for it, we would die.

00:04:59.460 It's that cold. But this federal government, the Trudeau slash liberal government, is punishing all of us

00:05:07.340 with the carbon tax for the sin of staying alive. On average, the average Alberta household this winter,

00:05:14.660 Sheila is going to have to cough up more than $440 extra, just in the carbon tax, just on their home 1.00

00:05:22.860 heating, which brings me to now. The problem that's happening right now with the narrative

00:05:29.720 weavers that are coming out of Toronto and Ottawa, and we've all got to team up on them,

00:05:34.660 okay, to push this back, is that they're saying things like, oh, the carbon tax is over. The carbon

00:05:41.360 tax isn't a thing anymore. No, it is. The carbon tax is still here. The carbon tax is going up on April

00:05:50.080 1st. And this guy, who's leading the liberal leadership race, loves carbon taxes. And I don't

00:05:58.440 know how much you want me to get into this book. But it was like, my hair was being set on fire.

00:06:03.580 This guy is a carbon tax zealot. And he he's only going to hide the one that we're paying now on our

00:06:10.460 home heating bills. And then he's going to crank it up, so that we're all paying more, we're just not

00:06:16.360 being able to see it. And also, he's going to slap us with a carbon tax tariff, if you can believe it.

00:06:22.880 And this third thing that nobody's talking about yet, you were mentioning it to me before the

00:06:28.520 camera started rolling, and thank God you covered this stuff. Carney's pushing for personal carbon

00:06:36.140 emission budgets for individuals and businesses. It's all here in his crazy book. So I'm super alarmed

00:06:47.700 right now, when it comes to people being able to afford the necessities of life in Canada,

00:06:51.980 and in particular, this guy's plan for the carbon tax.

00:06:55.960 Yeah, I don't. I don't take his all of a sudden come to Jesus moment on consumer carbon taxes,

00:07:03.700 as even remotely sincere, I actually find it even less sincere than his honesty in his book,

00:07:10.480 or at his prior Senate committee appearances. Because what he's doing now by saying, Oh,

00:07:17.560 we're getting rid of the consumer carbon tax. Okay, so you're going to hide it in

00:07:21.580 upstream emissions at the source, which only gets passed down to the consumer. They just don't get

00:07:29.140 the courtesy of being able to read it on their gas bill anymore. It'll be hidden, like the carbon tax

00:07:36.100 is on your milk, or on your clothes, or on anything that needs to be grown. So on your food at the

00:07:43.660 grocery store, anything that needs to be transported, you'll have you currently have that carbon tax hidden

00:07:50.980 there because it's added at every point of the supply chain. Carney's solution to the fact that

00:07:56.760 you're looking at your gas bill and saying, Oh, I only paid $50 in gas, but why the hell do I have

00:08:01.220 $120 in carbon tax here? He's going to make sure that you don't even have that clarity so that you can

00:08:09.000 hold the people forcing it on you responsible. He's going to hide it upstream. Nailed it. So

00:08:15.760 right now, if we go to the gas station, and we fill up our pickup truck, okay, and it costs us right now

00:08:22.420 over $20 extra in the carbon tax. As of April 1, no fooling, it'll be about $25 extra. You need to do

00:08:31.340 the math for that. Okay, so when you get your receipt spat out of the machine or whatever, typically,

00:08:36.340 maybe some pumps do, but typically, it does not show you the carbon tax charge, you need to do

00:08:42.160 some backwards calculations there. But to this point, the current carbon tax as it exists right

00:08:48.500 now in time and space with the Trudeau government, the rates are on the government website, you can

00:08:54.120 just Google it carbon tax by fuel type, and look down, see how much it is, do the math. So you can

00:09:01.300 figure out, okay, right now, the carbon tax is 18 cents per liter, my pickup truck holds about 120

00:09:08.780 liters per fill up, we do the math. That's how we're able to calculate this stuff. And you're right,

00:09:14.900 on a home heating bill, or here in Alberta, where our energy, our power, our lights stay on because of

00:09:21.300 natural gas, okay, we do usually see it broken down on the bill. And that's to your point, that's when it

00:09:26.600 gets disgusting. Because we'll see that we've used 50 bucks worth of natural gas, and we're getting

00:09:31.820 about $100 extra with the carbon tax. Carney doesn't like that. Okay, that's his only problem

00:09:38.420 with the carbon tax. And he said so out loud with his face, when he did his rip roaring announcement

00:09:46.560 in Halifax, and everybody fell asleep. Folks cannot be asleep on this. He did. Oh my gosh, Sheila,

00:09:52.440 Sheila, he's more boring than Michael Ignatieff. I know, I know. And I don't, I think the slogan

00:09:58.020 sticks too, that he didn't come back for us. You know, that was the slogan for Michael Ignatieff,

00:10:03.580 he didn't come back for us. I feel like that's the same slogan with Mark Carney. I don't even know

00:10:08.080 if he has a house in Canada, or like a primary residence in Canada. I was going to ask you,

00:10:13.000 because I actually don't know either. And you do more digging on this stuff. Like, does he have a

00:10:16.620 house? No, I don't know. Where do your kids go to school? Mark Carney? These are great questions.

00:10:24.360 What a clown show. This is a clown show. So the idea of letting him off the hook on the carbon tax is

00:10:31.540 madness. If you folks are listening to this, and you're struggling to make ends meet now and pay

00:10:37.620 your bills because of the carbon tax, this dude loves carbon taxes. Oh, I forgot the other one. It's

00:10:43.760 the carbon tax tariff thing. Yeah. So can I get into that? It's kind of wonky. It's crazy. Okay. So

00:10:51.320 this, I've had this explained to me by smarty pants, like Franco, who has two degrees, including an

00:10:57.020 economics degree, although he doesn't like me telling people that. So keep it a secret. So he

00:11:00.940 explained this to me. So Carney loves carbon taxes. Not just because it pulls in more money. And this is,

00:11:08.880 I would say the problem. Okay, as CS Lewis pointed out, God rest his soul. The problem is, is those who

00:11:16.160 are punishing you for the sake of your own good in their mind, that we could live with robber barons

00:11:21.960 because they would occasionally take a night off. Not so for the folks who have moral principles attached

00:11:28.120 to things like carbon taxes. Carney has moral principles attached to carbon taxes. And I'm not

00:11:34.580 making that up. It's literally called values. Okay, like, go read it for yourselves. The problem here

00:11:39.920 is that Carney rightly points out, hey, a lot of other countries aren't as good as Canada. And they

00:11:49.260 don't have carbon taxes. And I think that's bad. That is a failure for them to do so bad other countries.

00:11:57.840 So when we import their stuff, okay, imagine a piece of agricultural machinery coming from the United States,

00:12:08.040 for example, which does not have a carbon tax, or from another country that doesn't have a carbon tax. When we

00:12:13.340 import their stuff, Carney will put a carbon tax tariff on that stuff, in his mind, to punish that bad country for

00:12:25.040 not having a carbon tax, and leveling the playing field. The problem here is that he's leveling it up

00:12:31.440 like this, for cost, for you. So he wants to make all of the stuff we import from other countries that

00:12:38.940 don't have carbon taxes, more expensive for Canadians to buy. So this is a triple whammy from him when it

00:12:46.540 comes to this carbon tax.

00:12:48.240 You know, the left might wake up on this issue when their avocado and toast costs $30 because we

00:12:56.300 don't grow avocados here. The problem is it makes certain foods out of touch, out of the price range

00:13:03.980 of everyday Canadians. Like we saw a report where people in the far north are experiencing rates of

00:13:12.180 scurvy because of the cost of food up there. And the cost of food up there is directly driven by the

00:13:20.180 carbon tax. And then so now, what, so you can't afford oranges in Iqaluit because Mark Carney has

00:13:27.620 put a carbon tariff on them over and above the cost to get fresh produce up there. I mean, think about

00:13:34.380 how this will drive food insecurity for the poor. And the only people who can afford it are the rich

00:13:40.920 dudes like Mark Carney with his $2,000, uh, ugly, ugly looking shoes. Like those, what did I describe

00:13:48.680 them as something they would sell to the Hutterite girls down at the UFA because they, they look just 0.84

00:13:54.560 plain, perfectly plain, good ankle support, but two grand, no, 40 bucks, please. Thanks.

00:14:01.620 The Hutterite girls. I love the Hutterite girls here in Lovebridge. Me too. Love them.

00:14:05.780 And you're right though. That's what their shoes look like. Yeah.

00:14:08.760 Cause they need to go muck out the chicken barn. Like that's why. Yeah. So to your point, I, I,

00:14:16.520 I don't know. I was a masochist last week. So I wrote a few off heads on Carney and I dug into his

00:14:22.820 book. Um, and I dug into his background and to your point exactly, I'm going to get right into it.

00:14:29.840 I don't care. Please do. It's really flipping easy for someone who makes the kind of money that he is

00:14:36.460 paid to not give a flying fox fig about how much it costs the rest of us to go get groceries.

00:14:45.520 Yeah. I'll put it this way. Mark Carney, one of his most recent gigs was the governor of the Bank of

00:14:52.120 England. Okay. While he was there back in the day, this is before 2020. So I'm not adjusting for

00:14:58.960 inflation. He was paid more than $800,000 per year, Sheila, plus a $450,000 housing allowance.

00:15:11.960 Yeah. It even made the British press and they're not used to, you know, squawking about salary rates

00:15:19.160 that often. They're usually pretty sleepy on that stuff. They flipped out under how much that guy was

00:15:24.660 making. So pretty hard to hear the cries of the average working man through those ermine earmuffs.

00:15:31.380 Yeah. Major problem here.

00:15:32.720 Yeah. I mean, and this is not just in us in Canada sounding the alarm bells on this. In fact, while

00:15:40.320 Mark Carney was an advisor to Justin Trudeau, by the way, we should stop and remind people

00:15:45.740 all the bad things that we've lived through in the last five years, the COVID out of control spending,

00:15:51.900 the carbon tax, the escalation on carbon tax, the DEI nonsense. That was Mark Carney in the ear of

00:16:02.300 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. He was the COVID recovery advisor. And then he was most recently

00:16:09.140 the de facto finance minister getting, by the way, skirting ethics laws by being the advisor to the

00:16:18.440 leader of the Liberal Party, who happens to be the Prime Minister, instead of being the advisor to the

00:16:24.740 Prime Minister. Because if you were the advisor to the Prime Minister, you'd be subject to ethics laws.

00:16:29.780 And then we'd have to know what he was doing at his little networks of businesses, including the

00:16:39.380 Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero. So that is what Mark Carney's been up to for the last little bit

00:16:46.480 with the help of the United Nations. And basically, if you think there's going to be a change in lanes

00:16:51.300 about nation building energy projects, like and a revived version of Energy East, as if you could

00:16:59.880 get a company to invest in something like that, with the Liberals and or Mark Carney in power. But

00:17:06.440 there's no hope for something like that when you have a leader like Mark Carney at the helm of the

00:17:13.360 Liberals, because G fans, what that work to do was to de-insure and de-bank large scale energy projects. So

00:17:22.700 if they for some strange reason made it around the regulatory process, which is onerous and almost

00:17:31.860 impossible to achieve, then oh, we would pressure the banks with DEIS, sustainable development goals,

00:17:40.960 nonsense, to make sure that they never insured or financed your project. So that's what he's been

00:17:46.640 up to. And the Americans have been on to his little scam for quite a long time. I think it was Jim Jordan.

00:17:54.960 The US House Committee grilled Carney on these little climate coalitions back in June of 2024, June 7.

00:18:03.840 And it was Jim Jordan, because he said that G fans appears to facilitate collusion that may violate US

00:18:13.360 antitrust laws.

00:18:16.320 This is all like I have to stress for people listening, I know, like times are tough. You don't want to waste

00:18:21.520 your money on a book that you may not like to read. But please take what Sheila's saying here super

00:18:27.760 seriously. And if I could please call up the tax fighter army, yeah, do your best to reach out to

00:18:36.080 mainstream media, please be polite. Okay, this is all part of the game. Okay, trust me, please push back

00:18:42.640 on mainstream media when you hear them say things like the carbon tax is over, or that's not an issue

00:18:48.800 anymore, or Carney's going to get rid of the carbon tax, correct them, correct them. It is not true that

00:18:56.400 Carney's going to get rid of the carbon tax. This guy believes in this lock, stock and barrel. If I can

00:19:03.200 divert a little bit, it's still in the same realm, okay, but with the carbon tax. So quite often,

00:19:10.400 people will hear from these big globalist type people, these central planning type people about

00:19:15.840 net zero, okay, and the deadline for net zero. The reason why Carney believes in personal carbon

00:19:23.280 emissions budgets, as he calls them, is that he believes sincerely, from the sounds of it in this

00:19:29.120 book, in this hard deadline for net zero, or the planet is going to burn up. Yeah, like clear and present

00:19:36.720 in his mind. So he's going a little bit further than I've even heard other liberal politicians go. And this

00:19:44.080 is in connection with you know, how the Trudeau government wants to ban the sale of gasoline and diesel

00:19:50.000 powered vehicles in 10 years. So over the next decade, they're going to be powering down the sales of

00:19:56.480 normal cars and trucks, and forcing people to buy new EVs 100% by 2035. That'll come really fast, folks,

00:20:04.480 because 10 years goes by like that. Carney, the language in here is very slick. So you have to kind of

00:20:10.800 put your interpreter ears on. Carney sees the vehicles and furnaces, machines, as he calls them, that use fossil fuels,

00:20:21.120 as he says, he sees those ones that we already own, that are in our driveways, in our basements, keeping our

00:20:28.560 house warm, he sees those as debits against those budgets. He's eyeing the things you already own,

00:20:39.600 that use gasoline, diesel and natural gas. He doesn't come right out and say it out loud with his face

00:20:45.600 that he wants to seize them and ban them. But the language in here is super eyebrow raising. To your point

00:20:52.800 on people investing in the energy sector, and trying to get him to cough up something about like an

00:20:59.040 Energy East type of a pipeline. He says 80% of our oil and gas has to stay in the ground. Yeah. 80.

00:21:08.240 Yeah, this is not happening here people. So like, I'm really calling on everybody because as Elon Musk

00:21:14.720 says on X, we're the media now. Everybody needs to do a full court press to grab this titanic narrative

00:21:21.760 of the Eastern media and turn it, turn it back to things like affordability and the carbon tax.

00:21:29.040 We can't get just distracted by the huge noise coming out of Washington.

00:21:33.440 Yeah, we and we, you know, we can't let Carney rewrite his own history in 2021. He told Pierre

00:21:40.880 Polyev in committee, yes, canceling Northern Gateway was the right environmental and financial decision.

00:21:47.680 Oh, for whom for him, as he invests in pipelines in the UAE and Brazil, perhaps, but not for the rest of

00:21:53.280 us, and particularly Albertans who would have got world market access instead of a pipeline to the

00:22:00.080 west coast of British Columbia that sends oil to refineries in Washington.

00:22:06.960 He invests in other pipelines overseas.

00:22:09.520 Oh, Brazil and UAE. Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, I'll send you the clip, my friend.

00:22:15.760 Um, and, and, and this stuff that Carney is in trouble with in the United States, like the things

00:22:23.200 that Carney does in Canada would be, are illegal in the United States. And that's why they grilled him.

00:22:31.520 Um, so just to explain. In the US, antitrust law favors competition over collusion. Oh, protecting the free

00:22:41.520 market, if you can believe it. This means that even the largest money managers, Carney, cannot collude,

00:22:50.560 especially if their collusion reduces the production of affordable energy.

00:22:55.440 Energy. So, uh, that means that pressuring banks to commit to net zero, uh, would increase the cost

00:23:06.160 of affordable energy in the United States. And that's why G fans drew the ire of Jim Jordan.

00:23:12.880 Oh, okay. See, this is why I love your show.

00:23:16.640 Thank you.

00:23:17.440 Because even when I'm on it, I learn something. I had not made that connection yet.

00:23:22.320 So like, this is, this is the thing. And to your point on affordability and them trying

00:23:27.040 to debank people and like, you know, get banks away from oil and gas and energy, affordable energy.

00:23:32.800 He, he also points out in this book that he wants all oil and gas to be replaced by renewables.

00:23:41.440 And I think what he means by renewables is just, just wind and solar. I have, I haven't gotten there yet.

00:23:48.240 He might to be fair, but I haven't yet read that he considers nuclear, like big can do reactors,

00:23:54.640 what we need in Canada. I don't, I don't know if he considers nuclear to be renewable,

00:23:59.920 but the notion that we need to switch all of the stuff that we have right now, which powers our vehicles,

00:24:05.520 which powers our homes, all of this stuff all over to wind and solar while, and he points out,

00:24:11.600 he wants to subsidize it, meaning taxpayers pay for it. Right. Like it's, it's wild, Sheila. I was

00:24:18.960 speaking with Dan McTague, and he sent me a report from RBC. RBC, Royal Bank of Canada estimates that

00:24:26.880 in order to switch everything to renewables and electrify everything, which is another term he uses

00:24:32.720 in here, Canada would need to spend $2 trillion. To give you perspective, we are currently $1.2 trillion

00:24:43.200 in debt nationally. And that's what Trudeau has doubled in the last nine years. But RBC, obviously

00:24:50.800 a very serious financial institution that knows how to do math and stuff is saying that Canada would need

00:24:56.720 to spend $2 trillion to electrify everything with what they consider to be renewables. So the reason

00:25:05.440 this is still a taxpayer issue because he wants governments to pay for these renewables, meaning

00:25:11.520 us taxpayers. So we don't have $2 trillion to spare. Sorry. I need to point that out. Hey there,

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00:26:11.360 You know, and so maybe it's not nuclear that he's talking about. Maybe it's biofuels. And so if you use

00:26:22.960 arable land to produce biofuels instead of food, that does two things. It drives up the cost of energy, 0.92

00:26:29.200 but it also drives up the cost of food. Yes, there is an excellent report at secondstreet.org

00:26:32.080 where people, they ask the question, what if we kept it all on the ground, so to speak, as the activists

00:26:36.800 say, how much would that cost? And what would it do to the land? I was, that was a little part that

00:26:41.280 I hadn't thought about. If you use up arable land to build, to make and grow biofuels, okay,

00:26:47.040 stuff you're going to burn as a fuel, you're going to be displacing food production is what farmers are

00:26:52.960 telling us. So this is not a simple issue. And again, this gets back to the entire premise of this.

00:26:58.640 Okay, he calls it values. The front is literally the planet with scaffolding around it,

00:27:04.160 like rebuilding it as he wants it to be. This is the problem that central planners and big

00:27:09.440 government types get into. They think that they can just take the planet and play SimCity with it,

00:27:15.760 and it won't harm anyone. And they can decide what to do with their lives, right? People have trouble

00:27:22.880 managing their own lives, individuals and families, our lives as human beings are so complicated.

00:27:30.880 The idea that one person can figure out how to run the lives of a billion people is really quite

00:27:39.040 startling.

00:27:39.600 These people have a God complex. And I think that's why they have, they're so, this is just me being,

00:27:51.360 going off on a tangerine, as David Menzies would say, they have a God complex. And so that's why

00:27:56.720 they're so anti religion, anti Christianity, anti people of faith is because those people have an 1.00

00:28:04.960 understanding of a higher power that isn't the likes of Mark Carney or the government.

00:28:11.440 I could talk to you about how awful Mark Carney is forever. And I have to remember, once we go off air,

00:28:17.440 I'll send you that clip of him talking about the Northern Gateway pipeline, because it's a butte,

00:28:21.600 and I think he wants it down the memory hole. Now, not only on April 1, are we getting a hike in the

00:28:29.840 carbon tax, but as is the case, with our Parliamentary friend, they're getting a pay raise.

00:28:33.440 I wanted to end on this because it makes me really mad. And I didn't want to start off this way.

00:28:39.040 So remember how the government locked you down a few years ago, and people lost their jobs,

00:28:45.360 and their salaries were clawed back, and their businesses failed. And some folks even had their

00:28:49.760 bank accounts frozen, because they got too chirpy at the government. Remember all those times,

00:28:53.920 members of Parliament, MPs that work in Ottawa, federally, have not missed one pay hike. That

00:29:02.560 entire time, where people were really struggling hard, they all got their pay raises on time.

00:29:10.720 And it's grotesque that it happens on the same day that the carbon tax goes up. So on April 1,

00:29:17.360 because it's the start of a new fiscal year, that's when the carbon tax goes up,

00:29:21.200 that's when the beer and alcohol taxes goes up. And this is when parliamentary pay goes up.

00:29:27.200 So right now, Sheila, the average backbencher, I mean, a bench warmer, like their heads are hitting 0.87

00:29:33.440 the curtains, they get to talk twice a year, they're being paid $200,000 per year. Totally sick.

00:29:41.440 All of the perks you can imagine, travel, free hot meals a day, pretty M's, you name it, okay, like they're... 0.91

00:29:47.440 And while they're, while they're campaigning right now for their preferred candidate of choice,

00:29:55.200 um, they're also getting paid. So Parliament's prorogued. That's right, it's just flowing into

00:30:00.000 their bank accounts, no problem. So the average, the backbench MP with no portfolio, as they say,

00:30:05.840 200 grand, they're getting a pay hike worth thousands of dollars happening on April 1st.

00:30:11.520 Cabinet ministers, so you see these ones that are scurrying around that are campaigning for their next

00:30:16.160 liberal leader. They're paid $300,000. Okay, the Prime Minister is paid around $400,000.

00:30:27.120 Now are we starting to understand why they don't seem to understand why half of us are broke,

00:30:32.400 and how 50% of people are struggling to pay the bare minimum on their credit card bills and keep the

00:30:37.360 lights on, which is an actual stat, 50% of Canadians are in that boat right now. So this is where it needs

00:30:43.440 to go through to all politicians, frankly. We need to see prominent members of Parliament and party

00:30:50.560 leaders stand up in front of a bunch of cameras and microphones and say, this pay hike is wrong.

00:30:57.040 I refuse it. And if somehow it is being forced upon me, I'm going to deduct the entire amount of this

00:31:04.720 pay raise and give it to charity. Pick your charity. Wounded Warriors, Boys and Girls Club, food banks,

00:31:11.520 whatever. They need to do that, frankly. We need to see some leadership here because this is nonsense.

00:31:15.760 Now, I don't want to end on this note. I actually want to end on the successes of the taxpayer army,

00:31:23.120 as you called it, and that would be on the capital gains tax. Tell us what happened here and how

00:31:32.480 our friends at the CTF were able to mobilize Canadians to put pressure on government and

00:31:38.800 bureaucrats to, at least for the time being. Thank you so much. I'd love to end on a good

00:31:44.240 note. So this is because of our supporters. There are a handful of us who are the directors and the

00:31:49.440 talkers and stuff. But it's because of our tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of supporters

00:31:54.320 across Canada that get in the arena. They send the emails, they make the phone calls,

00:31:59.760 they make donations, they do wonderful things, they phone talk radio. Okay? This is what we mean

00:32:04.480 when we say the taxpayer army. So what had happened was this. The Trudeau Liberals were going to increase

00:32:11.600 the capital gains tax. Capital gains tax kicks you in the face whenever you sell something the

00:32:16.960 government considers to be capital. And this doesn't just affect the Daddy Warbucks's of the world who 0.91

00:32:22.320 do stock market change. No, my father was a longtime heavy duty mechanic, he ran his own business.

00:32:28.880 So if he had a big piece of equipment, he doesn't anymore. But if he had a big piece of equipment

00:32:32.960 that was worth a lot of money, like a parts washer, or like a fabricator for metal, something like that,

00:32:38.560 and he sold it, the government would consider that to be a capital gain, and tax him for it. How dare you be

00:32:45.920 productive? Right. I'll put this closer to home. You're a farmer, and you've structured your farm

00:32:54.400 as a corporation, and you're buying or selling farm equipment, you're moving hay, selling hay,

00:33:02.880 or for that matter, it acts as an inheritance tax. So you want to pass your farm along to one of your

00:33:09.680 children, or subdivide to fairly distribute your assets between your children before your untimely

00:33:18.240 demise. Exactly. Thank you. So when you hear somebody say, again, some politician making 300

00:33:24.000 grand with all their expenses paid out loud at their face, this is only affecting people with the

00:33:28.160 aughts. Shut up. No, it's not. This is affecting normal working people all the time. So what had happened

00:33:33.520 was this. The Trudeau government was going to hike up that amount of tax, that capital gains tax. But then

00:33:39.360 everything went sideways, because they prorogued, blah, blah, blah. So that tax hike had not gone through

00:33:46.560 Parliament yet, hadn't gone through the House of Commons, hadn't gone through the Senate, hadn't been

00:33:50.960 stamped by the Governor General, Representative King Charles III. None of those things had happened.

00:33:55.280 But the CRA went ahead with the tax hike. Anyway. It was astonishing. I was actually surprised. It's

00:34:04.080 crazy. I am super unimpressed with this government all the time. But I was still surprised. So they

00:34:09.440 still hiked it up. And that's when the Taxpayers Federation was like, um, no, no taxation without

00:34:15.840 representation. That's not just a cool slogan or a principle. It's in our Constitution. Okay.

00:34:20.720 Yeah. These are big deals. Like countries have been formed over these things. Okay. Yeah.

00:34:29.840 So we're like, um, we don't think so. So, uh, at the Taxpayers Federation was taking the government to

00:34:36.320 court. We're like, not today. We're fighting you right now. We're taking you to court because this

00:34:41.840 is completely unconstitutional. And our in-house lawyer, who's also our Atlantic director said so.

00:34:47.840 So Franco and Devin, Devin Drover, they all went to Ottawa. They had a huge press conference on a

00:34:52.880 Monday. They said, we're going to court. We will fight you tooth and nail on behalf of taxpayers.

00:34:58.240 And it was at the end of that week that they said, um, you know what, maybe we shouldn't do this

00:35:02.400 anymore. We're canceling the carbon tax increase, the, uh, rather capital gains tax increase.

00:35:07.680 So that is a huge win from our supporters of the Taxpayers Federation, because they all threw in on

00:35:12.560 this. They're like, hell yes, fight them now. We can't put up with this. This is a line not to be

00:35:17.440 crossed. And so we made the government back down for now. I will point out for now, they're delaying

00:35:24.400 this tax hike. They didn't announce they were scrapping it. They're kicking the can ahead until

00:35:29.440 after the election. So we have got to stay on them like a dog on a bone. But for now we have a reprieve.

00:35:36.640 If you're, God forbid, your parent passes away and you get their property, you aren't paying that

00:35:42.400 extra amount of the inheritance slash capital gains tax when you sell the property.

00:35:50.960 Yeah. It's just, it just unfathomable that out of control bureaucrats thought they had the right

00:35:57.600 to do this to Canadians. Nobody elected them to anything. Any, from my perspective,

00:36:04.160 everybody involved in that should have been fired because what a gross misunderstanding of your role

00:36:09.600 as basically a place keeper, somebody to maintain whatever broken system we have

00:36:16.160 in between elections and just not act to do things on their own. Just, that's, there's your permanent

00:36:22.080 government. When people wonder what Trump means by the swamp or permanent government, this, this is

00:36:27.680 exactly what we need. The deep state. Yeah, this is the deep state right there where they just tax,

00:36:35.600 they tax you without even anything going before parliament. Chris, tell us how people get involved

00:36:41.600 in the highly effective taxpayer army. Thank you. If you want to join up and I encourage you to do so,

00:36:48.160 even if you can't make a donation, that's totally okay. You can join for free. You can stay for free

00:36:52.640 forever. It's totally fine. You're still part of the taxpayer army. And I'm encouraging you to do this

00:36:58.000 because one, it's very effective and we get results like this. Okay. We save people like millions of

00:37:04.560 dollars. Okay. Big deal. Two, for yourself. I know it's hard right now. Okay. I hear from family and

00:37:11.040 friends all the time. I hear from supporters all the time. It is rough out there and it can get you down.

00:37:16.480 So if you're part of our taxpayer army, you get really happy warrior emails, like jazzing you up,

00:37:22.240 right? And it makes you feel a sense of fellowship. Yeah. It gives you this purpose of,

00:37:28.160 damn it, we can fight them and we will, and we can, and we do. So go to our website, taxpayer.com,

00:37:34.400 go to the petitions link, sign stuff that speaks to you, like capital gains tax, like no home equity tax,

00:37:40.800 like defund the CBC, like scrap the carbon tax, like stop the gun ban. All of these things,

00:37:46.560 if that's what gets you up in the morning, man, sign that petition. And now you're part of that

00:37:51.200 battalion of the army. And you'll hear from us like all the time.

00:37:54.240 Yeah. And you'll be told how you can do something, you know, like that's the thing you can start to

00:38:04.880 feel helpless because it's just coming at you from all directions. You're looking in your bank

00:38:09.920 account and you're like, Oh, food is more expensive. Going to work is more expensive.

00:38:14.240 Heating my house is more expensive. You want to save a little bit of money. You want to treat the kids to

00:38:19.040 something once in a while. And you can feel like there's no hope or end in sight and that nothing

00:38:27.360 you do can affect any sort of change. And sometimes it just, it's helpful to just feel like you're doing

00:38:35.760 something. One foot in front of the other. That's how you move forward for sure.

00:38:42.400 Yeah. It's good for your brain. Good for your soul to stand up and just these little acts of resistance

00:38:47.440 every single day. Uh, Chris, thanks so much for coming on the show. Thanks so much for taking

00:38:51.600 the time all the time to fight for taxpayers and families, just like mine. And, uh, means a lot

00:38:57.440 to us. Thank you, Sheila, the show very, very soon. Thanks for tuning into this podcast. If you

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00:39:41.840 guest for the last segment because without you, there's no rebel news. So I better care what you

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00:39:53.040 And how could we ever hold him to account if we did, you know, if you take money from Justin Trudeau,

00:40:02.560 whether or not it directs the kind of content that you do, there's a perception

00:40:13.200 of political contamination that you just cannot get around. So, uh, there are a couple of ways that

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00:41:21.120 their comment on air, which is what I'm doing right now. I actually are take, I'm taking comments

00:41:26.320 from the YouTube comment section on last week's show, also about Mark Carney, uh, with my friend

00:41:33.120 Michelle Sterling from friends of science. And just because of Carney's climate zealotry, he's been on the

00:41:40.160 radar of friends of science for a very long time with his, you know, carbon credit schemes wherein he

00:41:48.480 enriches himself. Um, well, do you suffer? So, uh, first comment is from L V I N Q 8 E who says,

00:42:00.880 why is this unelected installed W E F Carney telling Canadians what to do? Well, isn't that the thing?

00:42:08.000 You see, he's been telling Canadians what to do for a very long time because he is part of the

00:42:15.200 liberal party brain trust. And so, as I said on the live stream the other day, Justin Trudeau's

00:42:21.120 head is just an empty bucket and the unelected oligarchs of the world just pour those bad ideas 0.91

00:42:30.480 into his brain. Largely that's coming from the world economic forum. Um, and Mark Carney is the

00:42:38.080 epitome of Davos man. And he has, as I said to my friend Chris Sims today, advised Justin Trudeau on

00:42:45.280 the overspending of the COVID catastrophe in the financial system. And then he's been the

00:42:53.600 the most recent overspender, um, acting as the de facto finance minister for the country and he's

00:43:01.680 been pushing carbon taxes here and abroad and DEI nonsense and sustainable development goals onto

00:43:08.400 banks. So if you're wondering why we are in some instances this far from an official social credit

00:43:17.840 system in this country. And I think in some ways we already have a social credit system

00:43:26.000 in this country, uh, it's Mark Carney. Bromsley writes, what an unenergetic climate clown.

00:43:32.960 You know what? He is the epitome of energy vampire. Like if he doesn't bring a lot of

00:43:40.800 energy to the table when he's talking. And so even if you approach what he's saying with enthusiasm,

00:43:49.280 you leave it feeling like you've just been on a 40 day fast where you don't have any energy stores

00:44:00.800 left in your body. You've metabolized all your muscle out of desperation. That's what he does to

00:44:07.280 the psyche of people. I, I, it's quite compelling from a sinister standpoint because he's bored you

00:44:15.600 to death. You don't even have the will to object energetically to his bad ideas because your energy

00:44:22.800 is completely gone. I watch Mark Carney knowing that I should be angry at the things that he's saying.

00:44:29.760 But at the end of it, I'm just like, ah, I need a cup of coffee and a sleep.

00:44:36.160 It's just a, it's a crazy thing that he does. Intensely boring, but sinister in his, uh, lack of charisma.

00:44:46.880 Dale Lucas 5135 says, I would love to know what Justin Trudeau's carbon footprint is. He treats his

00:44:52.560 private jet like a taxi, of course, at our expense. I wonder if Mark Carney is using Canadian jets at no

00:44:58.320 cost to him. Well, he just finished as I'm filming this on Wednesday morning, a bit of a whistle stop

00:45:05.920 tour of the prairies or Saskatchewan and Winnipeg. I think he hit yesterday and, uh,

00:45:16.560 he sure as heck wasn't walking. He wasn't taking an electric vehicle, was he? Uh, yeah, he's jetting all

00:45:24.400 over this country. I don't know if he's doing it commercial, but he's definitely first class

00:45:28.000 if he is, um, or at least business class. And, uh, yeah, he's not doing it the low carbon way.

00:45:35.840 He is rich enough to say, oh, I'll pay for my climate sins by buying carbon credits to offset my

00:45:42.400 carbon emissions, paying tithes to the climate gods because he can afford that. And so the rest of us

00:45:50.080 who can't afford that, we just, I guess we have to be told by that idiot Mark Holland that our trips

00:45:56.080 in the minivan are going to kill the planet. While his boss also tells us to stay home and take road

00:46:03.200 trips at home instead of going to the United States as some sort of misplaced act of jingoistic

00:46:09.280 patriotism against Donald Trump. Make it, make it make sense. None of it does.

00:46:16.480 Uh, I can't stand Carney or any liberals, NDP green. They're done. Uh, I sure hope so. I hope my

00:46:24.240 fellow Canadians are not, uh, swayed by this Mark Carney rebrand of some sort of centrist pragmatist.

00:46:34.560 Cause he's not as Chris says, he's an absolute zealot.

00:46:37.920 Uh, I want people to realize that Carney is Trudeau 2.0 completely.

00:46:49.920 Carney's also Freeland 2.0 completely. Carney is not new. Carney is the liberal party. Carney is

00:46:58.400 their bad ideas and it'll be turbocharged, I think. So anyway, I see Carney creeping up in the polls.

00:47:12.160 I, I, I, I, I just, fellow Canadians do not let us down. Vote the way the Westerners vote. Please, for once. Please, Toronto. 0.72

00:47:28.160 Go High Octane 500 LC says, is Carney going to impose a tax on us inhaling or exhaling? I'm sorry.

00:47:37.200 I'm holding my breath. I mean, really, if you thought that carbon dioxide was a poison on the

00:47:42.560 planet, you'd want fewer people. Oh, wait, they want that too. They just don't want fewer of them.

00:47:48.480 They don't want any fewer global elites. They want to get rid of us and in some sort of active

00:47:54.000 climate eugenics, right? We're the useless breathers. Uh, and they're, them don't know their carbon 0.99

00:48:03.440 emissions of it. They don't cause the death of the planet. It's ours, our breathing, our living,

00:48:08.640 our food, our going to work, our building things, our growing things. In the meantime,

00:48:14.320 they can fly around taking luxury vacations and that's fine. It's self-care for them.

00:48:23.200 Uh, Tammy Robinson 5249 says, they have nearly doubled the cost of air travel in Canada or to

00:48:28.640 travel abroad that happened in August, 2024. It's been happening for a long time. And, uh, we've seen

00:48:35.680 like the low budget, uh, airlines just fold up shop who disappeared, not flare swoop did. And so did

00:48:45.920 links and links was great. Like if you needed to like quickly, especially in Western, Western Canada,

00:48:51.440 fly in and out of like the interior of BC, you could do it for a hundred ish bucks.

00:48:59.360 Now you couldn't take anything with you, but if you were just going for like a day and back,

00:49:05.920 it was wonderful. Let's say you had a sport, a sporting event there, or you wanted to watch one

00:49:10.960 of your kids play a sporting event there. Uh, it was awesome, but they have made it so that normal

00:49:16.880 people can enjoy the perks of the elites, which is, I think how they like it. Uh, they never want us to

00:49:24.080 achieve their level of socioeconomic, uh, elitism. They want to keep us down, make sure we never ever

00:49:37.760 are able to get anywhere near them. It's a climate segregation, isn't it? Well, everybody, that's the show

00:49:45.760 for today. Uh, I'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week.

00:49:50.320 And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - February 13, 2025

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Mark Carney proposes 'hidden carbon tax' plan that limits consumer choice

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