SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Mark Carney proposes 'hidden carbon tax' plan that limits consumer choice
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Sheila Gunnareed and Chris Sims from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation join me on this episode of The Gun Show to talk about the Trudeau government's carbon tax hike on April 1st, and why it's a bad idea.
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April 1st is April Fool's Day and the jokes on Canadians with a carbon tax hike.
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I'm Sheila Gunnareed and you're watching The Gun Show.
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It is unfathomably cold outside right now in Alberta. I'm actually quite surprised that
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we're not getting our seasonal, hey, don't plug in your car to keep the block heater working because
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we don't have enough electricity on the grid warnings that we get in winters gone by thanks
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to the early phase out of coal-fired generation on our electricity grid. Thanks, NDP.
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And in the middle of all of this, while it is expensive to just stay alive here in Canada,
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the Liberals are jacking up the carbon tax on April 1st. Now, one of the reasons we have a carbon tax
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is the prospective new leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, Mark Carney. He's a global bankster who's
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been pushing for a global carbon tax and he's been in the ear of Justin Trudeau at least officially
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for the last half decade. And he says now, oh, our highly unpopular carbon tax, we're doing away with
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the consumer version of this. We're going to hide it in other ways. And joining me today is my friend,
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Chris Sims, from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, to explain exactly how that's going to happen. Take a listen.
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So joining me now is a good friend of the show, my personal good friend, Chris Sims, and best friend
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to the struggling Canadian taxpayer. It's Chris Sims, the Alberta Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
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Chris, thanks for joining me on this bitterly cold Alberta day. First thing I want to talk about is how
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the weather in Alberta is going to get even more expensive going forward on April 1st, despite the
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fact that the reason it's going to get more expensive is one of the most unpopular policies
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of the Trudeau Liberals over the last 10 years. And that's saying something. Big time, big time. So I
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don't like using this word often because governments use it to manipulate people. But we're kind of in an
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emergency right now. If you like lower taxes, less waste and smaller, more accountable government.
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And we're in an emergency right now because the mainstream media and the governing set, as I often
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call them that usually live between Quebec and Windsor in that corridor, they are currently so
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distracted by the Trump tariffs, that they are not paying close enough attention to what the heck is
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going on in Ottawa, and also within the liberal leadership race. So number one, you're right, it is
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so flippin cold here. Here in Lethbridge this morning, it was minus 42 with the wind chill. And I'm one of those
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people that factors in the wind chill because it's windy. Yeah, that's what it feels like. So that's
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what I'm going to dress for. Yeah, exactly. Yesterday, my front door was frozen solid. I couldn't get to
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let my kids out to go to the bus. They were all like bundled up like they were going to find a
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tauntaun somewhere. Oh, that's cool. You guys have the buses running. Ours have not been.
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So I shouldn't complain. At least the school buses are still running. They're tough. And so this morning,
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again, it is super cold. It's in the minus 40s with the wind, even without the wind, it's minus 30.
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So all that saying, if we didn't heat our homes, and warm up our trucks and dress for it, we would die.
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It's that cold. But this federal government, the Trudeau slash liberal government, is punishing all of us
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with the carbon tax for the sin of staying alive. On average, the average Alberta household this winter,
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Sheila is going to have to cough up more than $440 extra, just in the carbon tax, just on their home
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heating, which brings me to now. The problem that's happening right now with the narrative
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weavers that are coming out of Toronto and Ottawa, and we've all got to team up on them,
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okay, to push this back, is that they're saying things like, oh, the carbon tax is over. The carbon
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tax isn't a thing anymore. No, it is. The carbon tax is still here. The carbon tax is going up on April
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1st. And this guy, who's leading the liberal leadership race, loves carbon taxes. And I don't
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know how much you want me to get into this book. But it was like, my hair was being set on fire.
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This guy is a carbon tax zealot. And he he's only going to hide the one that we're paying now on our
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home heating bills. And then he's going to crank it up, so that we're all paying more, we're just not
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being able to see it. And also, he's going to slap us with a carbon tax tariff, if you can believe it.
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And this third thing that nobody's talking about yet, you were mentioning it to me before the
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camera started rolling, and thank God you covered this stuff. Carney's pushing for personal carbon
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emission budgets for individuals and businesses. It's all here in his crazy book. So I'm super alarmed
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right now, when it comes to people being able to afford the necessities of life in Canada,
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and in particular, this guy's plan for the carbon tax.
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Yeah, I don't. I don't take his all of a sudden come to Jesus moment on consumer carbon taxes,
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as even remotely sincere, I actually find it even less sincere than his honesty in his book,
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or at his prior Senate committee appearances. Because what he's doing now by saying, Oh,
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we're getting rid of the consumer carbon tax. Okay, so you're going to hide it in
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upstream emissions at the source, which only gets passed down to the consumer. They just don't get
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the courtesy of being able to read it on their gas bill anymore. It'll be hidden, like the carbon tax
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is on your milk, or on your clothes, or on anything that needs to be grown. So on your food at the
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grocery store, anything that needs to be transported, you'll have you currently have that carbon tax hidden
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there because it's added at every point of the supply chain. Carney's solution to the fact that
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you're looking at your gas bill and saying, Oh, I only paid $50 in gas, but why the hell do I have
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$120 in carbon tax here? He's going to make sure that you don't even have that clarity so that you can
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hold the people forcing it on you responsible. He's going to hide it upstream. Nailed it. So
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right now, if we go to the gas station, and we fill up our pickup truck, okay, and it costs us right now
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over $20 extra in the carbon tax. As of April 1, no fooling, it'll be about $25 extra. You need to do
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the math for that. Okay, so when you get your receipt spat out of the machine or whatever, typically,
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maybe some pumps do, but typically, it does not show you the carbon tax charge, you need to do
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some backwards calculations there. But to this point, the current carbon tax as it exists right
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now in time and space with the Trudeau government, the rates are on the government website, you can
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just Google it carbon tax by fuel type, and look down, see how much it is, do the math. So you can
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figure out, okay, right now, the carbon tax is 18 cents per liter, my pickup truck holds about 120
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liters per fill up, we do the math. That's how we're able to calculate this stuff. And you're right,
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on a home heating bill, or here in Alberta, where our energy, our power, our lights stay on because of
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natural gas, okay, we do usually see it broken down on the bill. And that's to your point, that's when it
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gets disgusting. Because we'll see that we've used 50 bucks worth of natural gas, and we're getting
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about $100 extra with the carbon tax. Carney doesn't like that. Okay, that's his only problem
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with the carbon tax. And he said so out loud with his face, when he did his rip roaring announcement
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in Halifax, and everybody fell asleep. Folks cannot be asleep on this. He did. Oh my gosh, Sheila,
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Sheila, he's more boring than Michael Ignatieff. I know, I know. And I don't, I think the slogan
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sticks too, that he didn't come back for us. You know, that was the slogan for Michael Ignatieff,
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he didn't come back for us. I feel like that's the same slogan with Mark Carney. I don't even know
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if he has a house in Canada, or like a primary residence in Canada. I was going to ask you,
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because I actually don't know either. And you do more digging on this stuff. Like, does he have a
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house? No, I don't know. Where do your kids go to school? Mark Carney? These are great questions.
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What a clown show. This is a clown show. So the idea of letting him off the hook on the carbon tax is
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madness. If you folks are listening to this, and you're struggling to make ends meet now and pay
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your bills because of the carbon tax, this dude loves carbon taxes. Oh, I forgot the other one. It's
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the carbon tax tariff thing. Yeah. So can I get into that? It's kind of wonky. It's crazy. Okay. So
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this, I've had this explained to me by smarty pants, like Franco, who has two degrees, including an
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economics degree, although he doesn't like me telling people that. So keep it a secret. So he
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explained this to me. So Carney loves carbon taxes. Not just because it pulls in more money. And this is,
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I would say the problem. Okay, as CS Lewis pointed out, God rest his soul. The problem is, is those who
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are punishing you for the sake of your own good in their mind, that we could live with robber barons
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because they would occasionally take a night off. Not so for the folks who have moral principles attached
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to things like carbon taxes. Carney has moral principles attached to carbon taxes. And I'm not
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making that up. It's literally called values. Okay, like, go read it for yourselves. The problem here
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is that Carney rightly points out, hey, a lot of other countries aren't as good as Canada. And they
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don't have carbon taxes. And I think that's bad. That is a failure for them to do so bad other countries.
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So when we import their stuff, okay, imagine a piece of agricultural machinery coming from the United States,
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for example, which does not have a carbon tax, or from another country that doesn't have a carbon tax. When we
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import their stuff, Carney will put a carbon tax tariff on that stuff, in his mind, to punish that bad country for
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not having a carbon tax, and leveling the playing field. The problem here is that he's leveling it up
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like this, for cost, for you. So he wants to make all of the stuff we import from other countries that
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don't have carbon taxes, more expensive for Canadians to buy. So this is a triple whammy from him when it
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You know, the left might wake up on this issue when their avocado and toast costs $30 because we
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don't grow avocados here. The problem is it makes certain foods out of touch, out of the price range
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of everyday Canadians. Like we saw a report where people in the far north are experiencing rates of
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scurvy because of the cost of food up there. And the cost of food up there is directly driven by the
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carbon tax. And then so now, what, so you can't afford oranges in Iqaluit because Mark Carney has
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put a carbon tariff on them over and above the cost to get fresh produce up there. I mean, think about
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how this will drive food insecurity for the poor. And the only people who can afford it are the rich
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dudes like Mark Carney with his $2,000, uh, ugly, ugly looking shoes. Like those, what did I describe
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them as something they would sell to the Hutterite girls down at the UFA because they, they look just
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plain, perfectly plain, good ankle support, but two grand, no, 40 bucks, please. Thanks.
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The Hutterite girls. I love the Hutterite girls here in Lovebridge. Me too. Love them.
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And you're right though. That's what their shoes look like. Yeah.
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Cause they need to go muck out the chicken barn. Like that's why. Yeah. So to your point, I, I,
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I don't know. I was a masochist last week. So I wrote a few off heads on Carney and I dug into his
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book. Um, and I dug into his background and to your point exactly, I'm going to get right into it.
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I don't care. Please do. It's really flipping easy for someone who makes the kind of money that he is
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paid to not give a flying fox fig about how much it costs the rest of us to go get groceries.
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Yeah. I'll put it this way. Mark Carney, one of his most recent gigs was the governor of the Bank of
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England. Okay. While he was there back in the day, this is before 2020. So I'm not adjusting for
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inflation. He was paid more than $800,000 per year, Sheila, plus a $450,000 housing allowance.
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Yeah. It even made the British press and they're not used to, you know, squawking about salary rates
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that often. They're usually pretty sleepy on that stuff. They flipped out under how much that guy was
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making. So pretty hard to hear the cries of the average working man through those ermine earmuffs.
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Yeah. I mean, and this is not just in us in Canada sounding the alarm bells on this. In fact, while
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Mark Carney was an advisor to Justin Trudeau, by the way, we should stop and remind people
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all the bad things that we've lived through in the last five years, the COVID out of control spending,
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the carbon tax, the escalation on carbon tax, the DEI nonsense. That was Mark Carney in the ear of
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. He was the COVID recovery advisor. And then he was most recently
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the de facto finance minister getting, by the way, skirting ethics laws by being the advisor to the
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leader of the Liberal Party, who happens to be the Prime Minister, instead of being the advisor to the
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Prime Minister. Because if you were the advisor to the Prime Minister, you'd be subject to ethics laws.
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And then we'd have to know what he was doing at his little networks of businesses, including the
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Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero. So that is what Mark Carney's been up to for the last little bit
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with the help of the United Nations. And basically, if you think there's going to be a change in lanes
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about nation building energy projects, like and a revived version of Energy East, as if you could
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get a company to invest in something like that, with the Liberals and or Mark Carney in power. But
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there's no hope for something like that when you have a leader like Mark Carney at the helm of the
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Liberals, because G fans, what that work to do was to de-insure and de-bank large scale energy projects. So
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if they for some strange reason made it around the regulatory process, which is onerous and almost
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impossible to achieve, then oh, we would pressure the banks with DEIS, sustainable development goals,
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nonsense, to make sure that they never insured or financed your project. So that's what he's been
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up to. And the Americans have been on to his little scam for quite a long time. I think it was Jim Jordan.
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The US House Committee grilled Carney on these little climate coalitions back in June of 2024, June 7.
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And it was Jim Jordan, because he said that G fans appears to facilitate collusion that may violate US
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This is all like I have to stress for people listening, I know, like times are tough. You don't want to waste
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your money on a book that you may not like to read. But please take what Sheila's saying here super
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seriously. And if I could please call up the tax fighter army, yeah, do your best to reach out to
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mainstream media, please be polite. Okay, this is all part of the game. Okay, trust me, please push back
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on mainstream media when you hear them say things like the carbon tax is over, or that's not an issue
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anymore, or Carney's going to get rid of the carbon tax, correct them, correct them. It is not true that
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Carney's going to get rid of the carbon tax. This guy believes in this lock, stock and barrel. If I can
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divert a little bit, it's still in the same realm, okay, but with the carbon tax. So quite often,
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people will hear from these big globalist type people, these central planning type people about
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net zero, okay, and the deadline for net zero. The reason why Carney believes in personal carbon
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emissions budgets, as he calls them, is that he believes sincerely, from the sounds of it in this
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book, in this hard deadline for net zero, or the planet is going to burn up. Yeah, like clear and present
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in his mind. So he's going a little bit further than I've even heard other liberal politicians go. And this
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is in connection with you know, how the Trudeau government wants to ban the sale of gasoline and diesel
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powered vehicles in 10 years. So over the next decade, they're going to be powering down the sales of
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normal cars and trucks, and forcing people to buy new EVs 100% by 2035. That'll come really fast, folks,
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because 10 years goes by like that. Carney, the language in here is very slick. So you have to kind of
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put your interpreter ears on. Carney sees the vehicles and furnaces, machines, as he calls them, that use fossil fuels,
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as he says, he sees those ones that we already own, that are in our driveways, in our basements, keeping our
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house warm, he sees those as debits against those budgets. He's eyeing the things you already own,
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that use gasoline, diesel and natural gas. He doesn't come right out and say it out loud with his face
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that he wants to seize them and ban them. But the language in here is super eyebrow raising. To your point
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on people investing in the energy sector, and trying to get him to cough up something about like an
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Energy East type of a pipeline. He says 80% of our oil and gas has to stay in the ground. Yeah. 80.
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Yeah, this is not happening here people. So like, I'm really calling on everybody because as Elon Musk
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says on X, we're the media now. Everybody needs to do a full court press to grab this titanic narrative
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of the Eastern media and turn it, turn it back to things like affordability and the carbon tax.
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We can't get just distracted by the huge noise coming out of Washington.
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Yeah, we and we, you know, we can't let Carney rewrite his own history in 2021. He told Pierre
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Polyev in committee, yes, canceling Northern Gateway was the right environmental and financial decision.
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Oh, for whom for him, as he invests in pipelines in the UAE and Brazil, perhaps, but not for the rest of
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us, and particularly Albertans who would have got world market access instead of a pipeline to the
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west coast of British Columbia that sends oil to refineries in Washington.
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Oh, Brazil and UAE. Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, I'll send you the clip, my friend.
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Um, and, and, and this stuff that Carney is in trouble with in the United States, like the things
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that Carney does in Canada would be, are illegal in the United States. And that's why they grilled him.
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Um, so just to explain. In the US, antitrust law favors competition over collusion. Oh, protecting the free
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market, if you can believe it. This means that even the largest money managers, Carney, cannot collude,
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especially if their collusion reduces the production of affordable energy.
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Energy. So, uh, that means that pressuring banks to commit to net zero, uh, would increase the cost
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of affordable energy in the United States. And that's why G fans drew the ire of Jim Jordan.
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Because even when I'm on it, I learn something. I had not made that connection yet.
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So like, this is, this is the thing. And to your point on affordability and them trying
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to debank people and like, you know, get banks away from oil and gas and energy, affordable energy.
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He, he also points out in this book that he wants all oil and gas to be replaced by renewables.
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And I think what he means by renewables is just, just wind and solar. I have, I haven't gotten there yet.
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He might to be fair, but I haven't yet read that he considers nuclear, like big can do reactors,
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what we need in Canada. I don't, I don't know if he considers nuclear to be renewable,
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but the notion that we need to switch all of the stuff that we have right now, which powers our vehicles,
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which powers our homes, all of this stuff all over to wind and solar while, and he points out,
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he wants to subsidize it, meaning taxpayers pay for it. Right. Like it's, it's wild, Sheila. I was
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speaking with Dan McTague, and he sent me a report from RBC. RBC, Royal Bank of Canada estimates that
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in order to switch everything to renewables and electrify everything, which is another term he uses
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in here, Canada would need to spend $2 trillion. To give you perspective, we are currently $1.2 trillion
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in debt nationally. And that's what Trudeau has doubled in the last nine years. But RBC, obviously
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a very serious financial institution that knows how to do math and stuff is saying that Canada would need
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to spend $2 trillion to electrify everything with what they consider to be renewables. So the reason
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this is still a taxpayer issue because he wants governments to pay for these renewables, meaning
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us taxpayers. So we don't have $2 trillion to spare. Sorry. I need to point that out. Hey there,
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You know, and so maybe it's not nuclear that he's talking about. Maybe it's biofuels. And so if you use
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arable land to produce biofuels instead of food, that does two things. It drives up the cost of energy,
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but it also drives up the cost of food. Yes, there is an excellent report at secondstreet.org
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where people, they ask the question, what if we kept it all on the ground, so to speak, as the activists
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say, how much would that cost? And what would it do to the land? I was, that was a little part that
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I hadn't thought about. If you use up arable land to build, to make and grow biofuels, okay,
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stuff you're going to burn as a fuel, you're going to be displacing food production is what farmers are
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telling us. So this is not a simple issue. And again, this gets back to the entire premise of this.
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Okay, he calls it values. The front is literally the planet with scaffolding around it,
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like rebuilding it as he wants it to be. This is the problem that central planners and big
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government types get into. They think that they can just take the planet and play SimCity with it,
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and it won't harm anyone. And they can decide what to do with their lives, right? People have trouble
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managing their own lives, individuals and families, our lives as human beings are so complicated.
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The idea that one person can figure out how to run the lives of a billion people is really quite
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These people have a God complex. And I think that's why they have, they're so, this is just me being,
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going off on a tangerine, as David Menzies would say, they have a God complex. And so that's why
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they're so anti religion, anti Christianity, anti people of faith is because those people have an
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understanding of a higher power that isn't the likes of Mark Carney or the government.
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I could talk to you about how awful Mark Carney is forever. And I have to remember, once we go off air,
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I'll send you that clip of him talking about the Northern Gateway pipeline, because it's a butte,
00:28:21.600
and I think he wants it down the memory hole. Now, not only on April 1, are we getting a hike in the
00:28:29.840
carbon tax, but as is the case, with our Parliamentary friend, they're getting a pay raise.
00:28:33.440
I wanted to end on this because it makes me really mad. And I didn't want to start off this way.
00:28:39.040
So remember how the government locked you down a few years ago, and people lost their jobs,
00:28:45.360
and their salaries were clawed back, and their businesses failed. And some folks even had their
00:28:49.760
bank accounts frozen, because they got too chirpy at the government. Remember all those times,
00:28:53.920
members of Parliament, MPs that work in Ottawa, federally, have not missed one pay hike. That
00:29:02.560
entire time, where people were really struggling hard, they all got their pay raises on time.
00:29:10.720
And it's grotesque that it happens on the same day that the carbon tax goes up. So on April 1,
00:29:17.360
because it's the start of a new fiscal year, that's when the carbon tax goes up,
00:29:21.200
that's when the beer and alcohol taxes goes up. And this is when parliamentary pay goes up.
00:29:27.200
So right now, Sheila, the average backbencher, I mean, a bench warmer, like their heads are hitting
00:29:33.440
the curtains, they get to talk twice a year, they're being paid $200,000 per year. Totally sick.
00:29:41.440
All of the perks you can imagine, travel, free hot meals a day, pretty M's, you name it, okay, like they're...
00:29:47.440
And while they're, while they're campaigning right now for their preferred candidate of choice,
00:29:55.200
um, they're also getting paid. So Parliament's prorogued. That's right, it's just flowing into
00:30:00.000
their bank accounts, no problem. So the average, the backbench MP with no portfolio, as they say,
00:30:05.840
200 grand, they're getting a pay hike worth thousands of dollars happening on April 1st.
00:30:11.520
Cabinet ministers, so you see these ones that are scurrying around that are campaigning for their next
00:30:16.160
liberal leader. They're paid $300,000. Okay, the Prime Minister is paid around $400,000.
00:30:27.120
Now are we starting to understand why they don't seem to understand why half of us are broke,
00:30:32.400
and how 50% of people are struggling to pay the bare minimum on their credit card bills and keep the
00:30:37.360
lights on, which is an actual stat, 50% of Canadians are in that boat right now. So this is where it needs
00:30:43.440
to go through to all politicians, frankly. We need to see prominent members of Parliament and party
00:30:50.560
leaders stand up in front of a bunch of cameras and microphones and say, this pay hike is wrong.
00:30:57.040
I refuse it. And if somehow it is being forced upon me, I'm going to deduct the entire amount of this
00:31:04.720
pay raise and give it to charity. Pick your charity. Wounded Warriors, Boys and Girls Club, food banks,
00:31:11.520
whatever. They need to do that, frankly. We need to see some leadership here because this is nonsense.
00:31:15.760
Now, I don't want to end on this note. I actually want to end on the successes of the taxpayer army,
00:31:23.120
as you called it, and that would be on the capital gains tax. Tell us what happened here and how
00:31:32.480
our friends at the CTF were able to mobilize Canadians to put pressure on government and
00:31:38.800
bureaucrats to, at least for the time being. Thank you so much. I'd love to end on a good
00:31:44.240
note. So this is because of our supporters. There are a handful of us who are the directors and the
00:31:49.440
talkers and stuff. But it's because of our tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of supporters
00:31:54.320
across Canada that get in the arena. They send the emails, they make the phone calls,
00:31:59.760
they make donations, they do wonderful things, they phone talk radio. Okay? This is what we mean
00:32:04.480
when we say the taxpayer army. So what had happened was this. The Trudeau Liberals were going to increase
00:32:11.600
the capital gains tax. Capital gains tax kicks you in the face whenever you sell something the
00:32:16.960
government considers to be capital. And this doesn't just affect the Daddy Warbucks's of the world who
00:32:22.320
do stock market change. No, my father was a longtime heavy duty mechanic, he ran his own business.
00:32:28.880
So if he had a big piece of equipment, he doesn't anymore. But if he had a big piece of equipment
00:32:32.960
that was worth a lot of money, like a parts washer, or like a fabricator for metal, something like that,
00:32:38.560
and he sold it, the government would consider that to be a capital gain, and tax him for it. How dare you be
00:32:45.920
productive? Right. I'll put this closer to home. You're a farmer, and you've structured your farm
00:32:54.400
as a corporation, and you're buying or selling farm equipment, you're moving hay, selling hay,
00:33:02.880
or for that matter, it acts as an inheritance tax. So you want to pass your farm along to one of your
00:33:09.680
children, or subdivide to fairly distribute your assets between your children before your untimely
00:33:18.240
demise. Exactly. Thank you. So when you hear somebody say, again, some politician making 300
00:33:24.000
grand with all their expenses paid out loud at their face, this is only affecting people with the
00:33:28.160
aughts. Shut up. No, it's not. This is affecting normal working people all the time. So what had happened
00:33:33.520
was this. The Trudeau government was going to hike up that amount of tax, that capital gains tax. But then
00:33:39.360
everything went sideways, because they prorogued, blah, blah, blah. So that tax hike had not gone through
00:33:46.560
Parliament yet, hadn't gone through the House of Commons, hadn't gone through the Senate, hadn't been
00:33:50.960
stamped by the Governor General, Representative King Charles III. None of those things had happened.
00:33:55.280
But the CRA went ahead with the tax hike. Anyway. It was astonishing. I was actually surprised. It's
00:34:04.080
crazy. I am super unimpressed with this government all the time. But I was still surprised. So they
00:34:09.440
still hiked it up. And that's when the Taxpayers Federation was like, um, no, no taxation without
00:34:15.840
representation. That's not just a cool slogan or a principle. It's in our Constitution. Okay.
00:34:20.720
Yeah. These are big deals. Like countries have been formed over these things. Okay. Yeah.
00:34:29.840
So we're like, um, we don't think so. So, uh, at the Taxpayers Federation was taking the government to
00:34:36.320
court. We're like, not today. We're fighting you right now. We're taking you to court because this
00:34:41.840
is completely unconstitutional. And our in-house lawyer, who's also our Atlantic director said so.
00:34:47.840
So Franco and Devin, Devin Drover, they all went to Ottawa. They had a huge press conference on a
00:34:52.880
Monday. They said, we're going to court. We will fight you tooth and nail on behalf of taxpayers.
00:34:58.240
And it was at the end of that week that they said, um, you know what, maybe we shouldn't do this
00:35:02.400
anymore. We're canceling the carbon tax increase, the, uh, rather capital gains tax increase.
00:35:07.680
So that is a huge win from our supporters of the Taxpayers Federation, because they all threw in on
00:35:12.560
this. They're like, hell yes, fight them now. We can't put up with this. This is a line not to be
00:35:17.440
crossed. And so we made the government back down for now. I will point out for now, they're delaying
00:35:24.400
this tax hike. They didn't announce they were scrapping it. They're kicking the can ahead until
00:35:29.440
after the election. So we have got to stay on them like a dog on a bone. But for now we have a reprieve.
00:35:36.640
If you're, God forbid, your parent passes away and you get their property, you aren't paying that
00:35:42.400
extra amount of the inheritance slash capital gains tax when you sell the property.
00:35:50.960
Yeah. It's just, it just unfathomable that out of control bureaucrats thought they had the right
00:35:57.600
to do this to Canadians. Nobody elected them to anything. Any, from my perspective,
00:36:04.160
everybody involved in that should have been fired because what a gross misunderstanding of your role
00:36:09.600
as basically a place keeper, somebody to maintain whatever broken system we have
00:36:16.160
in between elections and just not act to do things on their own. Just, that's, there's your permanent
00:36:22.080
government. When people wonder what Trump means by the swamp or permanent government, this, this is
00:36:27.680
exactly what we need. The deep state. Yeah, this is the deep state right there where they just tax,
00:36:35.600
they tax you without even anything going before parliament. Chris, tell us how people get involved
00:36:41.600
in the highly effective taxpayer army. Thank you. If you want to join up and I encourage you to do so,
00:36:48.160
even if you can't make a donation, that's totally okay. You can join for free. You can stay for free
00:36:52.640
forever. It's totally fine. You're still part of the taxpayer army. And I'm encouraging you to do this
00:36:58.000
because one, it's very effective and we get results like this. Okay. We save people like millions of
00:37:04.560
dollars. Okay. Big deal. Two, for yourself. I know it's hard right now. Okay. I hear from family and
00:37:11.040
friends all the time. I hear from supporters all the time. It is rough out there and it can get you down.
00:37:16.480
So if you're part of our taxpayer army, you get really happy warrior emails, like jazzing you up,
00:37:22.240
right? And it makes you feel a sense of fellowship. Yeah. It gives you this purpose of,
00:37:28.160
damn it, we can fight them and we will, and we can, and we do. So go to our website, taxpayer.com,
00:37:34.400
go to the petitions link, sign stuff that speaks to you, like capital gains tax, like no home equity tax,
00:37:40.800
like defund the CBC, like scrap the carbon tax, like stop the gun ban. All of these things,
00:37:46.560
if that's what gets you up in the morning, man, sign that petition. And now you're part of that
00:37:51.200
battalion of the army. And you'll hear from us like all the time.
00:37:54.240
Yeah. And you'll be told how you can do something, you know, like that's the thing you can start to
00:38:04.880
feel helpless because it's just coming at you from all directions. You're looking in your bank
00:38:09.920
account and you're like, Oh, food is more expensive. Going to work is more expensive.
00:38:14.240
Heating my house is more expensive. You want to save a little bit of money. You want to treat the kids to
00:38:19.040
something once in a while. And you can feel like there's no hope or end in sight and that nothing
00:38:27.360
you do can affect any sort of change. And sometimes it just, it's helpful to just feel like you're doing
00:38:35.760
something. One foot in front of the other. That's how you move forward for sure.
00:38:42.400
Yeah. It's good for your brain. Good for your soul to stand up and just these little acts of resistance
00:38:47.440
every single day. Uh, Chris, thanks so much for coming on the show. Thanks so much for taking
00:38:51.600
the time all the time to fight for taxpayers and families, just like mine. And, uh, means a lot
00:38:57.440
to us. Thank you, Sheila, the show very, very soon. Thanks for tuning into this podcast. If you
00:39:05.200
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00:39:41.840
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00:39:48.000
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00:39:53.040
And how could we ever hold him to account if we did, you know, if you take money from Justin Trudeau,
00:40:02.560
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00:40:13.200
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00:40:20.160
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00:40:25.200
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00:40:31.280
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their comment on air, which is what I'm doing right now. I actually are take, I'm taking comments
00:41:26.320
from the YouTube comment section on last week's show, also about Mark Carney, uh, with my friend
00:41:33.120
Michelle Sterling from friends of science. And just because of Carney's climate zealotry, he's been on the
00:41:40.160
radar of friends of science for a very long time with his, you know, carbon credit schemes wherein he
00:41:48.480
enriches himself. Um, well, do you suffer? So, uh, first comment is from L V I N Q 8 E who says,
00:42:00.880
why is this unelected installed W E F Carney telling Canadians what to do? Well, isn't that the thing?
00:42:08.000
You see, he's been telling Canadians what to do for a very long time because he is part of the
00:42:15.200
liberal party brain trust. And so, as I said on the live stream the other day, Justin Trudeau's
00:42:21.120
head is just an empty bucket and the unelected oligarchs of the world just pour those bad ideas
00:42:30.480
into his brain. Largely that's coming from the world economic forum. Um, and Mark Carney is the
00:42:38.080
epitome of Davos man. And he has, as I said to my friend Chris Sims today, advised Justin Trudeau on
00:42:45.280
the overspending of the COVID catastrophe in the financial system. And then he's been the
00:42:53.600
the most recent overspender, um, acting as the de facto finance minister for the country and he's
00:43:01.680
been pushing carbon taxes here and abroad and DEI nonsense and sustainable development goals onto
00:43:08.400
banks. So if you're wondering why we are in some instances this far from an official social credit
00:43:17.840
system in this country. And I think in some ways we already have a social credit system
00:43:26.000
in this country, uh, it's Mark Carney. Bromsley writes, what an unenergetic climate clown.
00:43:32.960
You know what? He is the epitome of energy vampire. Like if he doesn't bring a lot of
00:43:40.800
energy to the table when he's talking. And so even if you approach what he's saying with enthusiasm,
00:43:49.280
you leave it feeling like you've just been on a 40 day fast where you don't have any energy stores
00:44:00.800
left in your body. You've metabolized all your muscle out of desperation. That's what he does to
00:44:07.280
the psyche of people. I, I, it's quite compelling from a sinister standpoint because he's bored you
00:44:15.600
to death. You don't even have the will to object energetically to his bad ideas because your energy
00:44:22.800
is completely gone. I watch Mark Carney knowing that I should be angry at the things that he's saying.
00:44:29.760
But at the end of it, I'm just like, ah, I need a cup of coffee and a sleep.
00:44:36.160
It's just a, it's a crazy thing that he does. Intensely boring, but sinister in his, uh, lack of charisma.
00:44:46.880
Dale Lucas 5135 says, I would love to know what Justin Trudeau's carbon footprint is. He treats his
00:44:52.560
private jet like a taxi, of course, at our expense. I wonder if Mark Carney is using Canadian jets at no
00:44:58.320
cost to him. Well, he just finished as I'm filming this on Wednesday morning, a bit of a whistle stop
00:45:05.920
tour of the prairies or Saskatchewan and Winnipeg. I think he hit yesterday and, uh,
00:45:16.560
he sure as heck wasn't walking. He wasn't taking an electric vehicle, was he? Uh, yeah, he's jetting all
00:45:24.400
over this country. I don't know if he's doing it commercial, but he's definitely first class
00:45:28.000
if he is, um, or at least business class. And, uh, yeah, he's not doing it the low carbon way.
00:45:35.840
He is rich enough to say, oh, I'll pay for my climate sins by buying carbon credits to offset my
00:45:42.400
carbon emissions, paying tithes to the climate gods because he can afford that. And so the rest of us
00:45:50.080
who can't afford that, we just, I guess we have to be told by that idiot Mark Holland that our trips
00:45:56.080
in the minivan are going to kill the planet. While his boss also tells us to stay home and take road
00:46:03.200
trips at home instead of going to the United States as some sort of misplaced act of jingoistic
00:46:09.280
patriotism against Donald Trump. Make it, make it make sense. None of it does.
00:46:16.480
Uh, I can't stand Carney or any liberals, NDP green. They're done. Uh, I sure hope so. I hope my
00:46:24.240
fellow Canadians are not, uh, swayed by this Mark Carney rebrand of some sort of centrist pragmatist.
00:46:34.560
Cause he's not as Chris says, he's an absolute zealot.
00:46:37.920
Uh, I want people to realize that Carney is Trudeau 2.0 completely.
00:46:49.920
Carney's also Freeland 2.0 completely. Carney is not new. Carney is the liberal party. Carney is
00:46:58.400
their bad ideas and it'll be turbocharged, I think. So anyway, I see Carney creeping up in the polls.
00:47:12.160
I, I, I, I, I just, fellow Canadians do not let us down. Vote the way the Westerners vote. Please, for once. Please, Toronto.
00:47:28.160
Go High Octane 500 LC says, is Carney going to impose a tax on us inhaling or exhaling? I'm sorry.
00:47:37.200
I'm holding my breath. I mean, really, if you thought that carbon dioxide was a poison on the
00:47:42.560
planet, you'd want fewer people. Oh, wait, they want that too. They just don't want fewer of them.
00:47:48.480
They don't want any fewer global elites. They want to get rid of us and in some sort of active
00:47:54.000
climate eugenics, right? We're the useless breathers. Uh, and they're, them don't know their carbon
00:48:03.440
emissions of it. They don't cause the death of the planet. It's ours, our breathing, our living,
00:48:08.640
our food, our going to work, our building things, our growing things. In the meantime,
00:48:14.320
they can fly around taking luxury vacations and that's fine. It's self-care for them.
00:48:23.200
Uh, Tammy Robinson 5249 says, they have nearly doubled the cost of air travel in Canada or to
00:48:28.640
travel abroad that happened in August, 2024. It's been happening for a long time. And, uh, we've seen
00:48:35.680
like the low budget, uh, airlines just fold up shop who disappeared, not flare swoop did. And so did
00:48:45.920
links and links was great. Like if you needed to like quickly, especially in Western, Western Canada,
00:48:51.440
fly in and out of like the interior of BC, you could do it for a hundred ish bucks.
00:48:59.360
Now you couldn't take anything with you, but if you were just going for like a day and back,
00:49:05.920
it was wonderful. Let's say you had a sport, a sporting event there, or you wanted to watch one
00:49:10.960
of your kids play a sporting event there. Uh, it was awesome, but they have made it so that normal
00:49:16.880
people can enjoy the perks of the elites, which is, I think how they like it. Uh, they never want us to
00:49:24.080
achieve their level of socioeconomic, uh, elitism. They want to keep us down, make sure we never ever
00:49:37.760
are able to get anywhere near them. It's a climate segregation, isn't it? Well, everybody, that's the show
00:49:45.760
for today. Uh, I'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week.
00:49:50.320
And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.