SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Mark Carney’s climate extremism： A radical past he can’t rebrand away
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Presumed next Liberal leader Mark Carney has come out against the carbon tax, but is he really against the consumer carbon tax? Is he just a political opportunist, or is he a climate radical? In this episode, Sheila Gunn-Reed and Michelle Sterling of Friends of Science take a look at Carney's climate extremism and try to figure out who he really is.
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Presumed next Liberal leader Mark Carney has come out against the carbon tax, but
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is he really against the carbon tax? Let's look at his history. Today,
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I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
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Mark Carney, like I said, the presumed next leader of the Liberal Party and thus the next short-lived
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Prime Minister of Canada is trying to rewrite his history. You see, he says he's against a consumer
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carbon tax, but is that who he really is? Is he just changing lanes on the carbon tax because it is
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the Liberal's unpopular, punitive, inflationary tax on everything and being alive in Canada? Is he just
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a political opportunist? And that's why last week I proposed a new climate policy, eliminating the
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consumer carbon tax. Spoiler alert, he is. And it's interesting that he put consumer carbon tax to
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qualify which carbon tax he's against. He said he doesn't want you to be charged for the carbon tax,
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but he wants to charge the emitters the carbon tax, which serves to do two things. Hide the carbon tax in
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the supply chain, which will ultimately be accumulated and then passed along to the consumer.
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And it will act as a deterrent for large-scale projects to come into Canada because they have
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an additional tax. They just go into Trump's America where it's drill, baby, drill. So he's not
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really against the carbon tax. He's for hiding the carbon tax. And should we believe Mark Carney's
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come to Jesus moment on climate policies and how they punish everyday working people? I say definitely
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not. And so I called Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science who has been meticulous in documenting
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Mark Carney's influence in the global climate scare, I would say for the better part or even longer
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than the last decade. She knows who's who in the zoo and she's joining me next. Take a listen.
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Joining me now is good friend of Rebel News, good friend of the show, Michelle Sterling from Friends
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of Science. And I wanted to have Michelle on the show because although she will humbly deny my
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description of this, I think she is one of the people who has been following and exposing,
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presumed next Prime Minister of Canada, Mark Carney for the climate radical that he is for years.
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I think you have an encyclopedic knowledge of Mark Carney's extremism on the climate. And again,
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you are going to scoff because you're a modest lady, but I believe that it is true. And I think our
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viewers after watching this will also come to the same opinion as me. Michelle, thanks so much for
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agreeing to this interview. Mark Carney, walk us through, I think, his, and I'll let you take the
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lead. You can sort of, you know what you're talking about here. So take us through Mark Carney's
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climate extremism. Start wherever you want and we'll see if we can just thread the needle
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from the UN to the WEF to the EU to where we are today in Canada.
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Okay. Well, I'd like to start in June of 2024 when Friends of Science issued a press release
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about Mark Carney's involvement in what the U.S. House Judiciary Committee calls the climate cartel.
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And they had done a lot of research on all these different organizations like GFANS, which is the
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Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero, which Mark Carney put together at the Glasgow COP in 2021.
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And it brought together a bunch of banks and financiers. And there's also another Net Zero
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alliance with the banks, which was, you know, coordinated with the UN. And at that time,
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he was the UN climate czar on climate finance. So what they found with this cartel is that it's
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really these very powerful asset managers, banks, financial institutions who are pressuring
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corporations to go against the corporate core values and interests and also against the interests
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of consumers. So they described it in a short way by saying that the global climate cartel has
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declared war on the American way of life, driving, on-flying, and even food, eating, agriculture.
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So I think that people need to understand that Mark Carney originally worked with Goldman Sachs.
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And we did a video in about 2020, where we pointed out that Mark Carney at that time was interested
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in establishing a digital currency. And the pitfalls of a digital currency is that it can move you into
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a digital social credit society like in China. And also it can put a personal carbon ration
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on your VAX port, on your phone, or on your digital wallet, or on your credit card.
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So that once you're over your carbon limit, then you can't buy anything anymore. But that's what
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happens with the due black MasterCard that I think they have in Sweden.
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Simply put, it's the first credit card ever to stop you from overspending. Not based on your available
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funds, but rather on the levels of CO2 emissions caused by your consumer.
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You know, he began with Goldman Sachs. He was there for 13 years. And during the time that he
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moved into the UN climate czar position and was talking, no, no, before that, when he was with the
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Bank of England, that's when this whole digital currency thing developed. And he would see it as
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overturning the US currency, the US dollar, as the world reserve currency. And that would really help
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Europe. I don't know what it would do for everybody else. It certainly wouldn't make the US feel pretty
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good. It would make things very awkward. Europe, of course, has to buy a lot of fossil fuels because
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they don't have any that they're willing to exploit of their own. So they always have this deficit. So
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they see carbon taxes and such like as a means of equalization, if you like. So if you are selling
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something from a fossil fuel rich country, they're going to punish you with a tax to, you know, equalize
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the fact that they probably had to buy a bunch of fossil fuels to make whatever they're making to sell
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you. Mark Carney is interested in a carbon border adjustment mechanism, which is an import tariff.
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It's a climate import tariff. And it was in the fall economic statement of the federal government.
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Robert Lyman mentioned that in his summary of the climate measures in the fall economic statement
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that's on our blog. And he said, you know, what a crazy thing to, you know, suggest that you're going
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to impose climate tariffs. That's like waving a red flag to the Trump administration bull.
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So, you know, when we're talking now about the tariffs that President Trump is imposing,
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obviously, he stated other reasons why he wants to impose them. But, you know, that's a red flag
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that we already put up. And it's a red flag that Mark Carney is quite willing to pursue.
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Now, so far, carbon prices have been applied sparingly. They've been set far too low in the
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single digits on average globally, well short of the estimated $80 to $100 a ton needed by the end
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of this decade to keep us on track to net zero. In fact, he wants to align us more with the EU.
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And part of the whole carbon trading mechanism is also that Canada foresees itself as the basis for
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what they call nature-based climate solutions, which is really securing large parts of natural lands that
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are more or less pristine or untouched, and then selling carbon credits on that land. And usually
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what it means is you have to maintain it for at least 100 years as is. So if you have a forest plot,
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like for instance, I think the first example of this, the test case, was the Great Bear Rainforest
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in British Columbia. So everybody thought they were saving the rare Kermode bear and what, and maybe we
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are, but in the meantime, it became an opportunistic carbon trading site in British Columbia. So, you
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know, schools and hospitals in British Columbia are paying a carbon tax while carbon traders are
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profiting off this Great Bear Rainforest that we taxpayers funded. We don't get that money, but
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various corporations get money or carbon traders get money, but, you know, we don't. So, you know,
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it's a very complex climate infrastructure that's been built worldwide ever since Enron, actually. And it's
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interesting because there's an energy expert on X called Anas Al-Haji, and he always says that
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carbon markets are the mother of all Enrons. And for people who don't know, weren't alive then, Enron
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was a huge U.S. energy company that collapsed into a heap of ashes in 2001 because of off-books
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accounting and various kinds of strange market manipulation. Well, the climate cult picked up on
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the methods of Enron and has simply developed them now into a full-blown global cult. Again, people
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have to realize that who's not participating in the climate cult? Well, Russia's not. You know,
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they're a large emitter. China is not. China keeps claiming, well, by 2060, we're going to reduce our
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emissions. But in the meantime, they're the largest emitter in the world, and we're knocking ourselves
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out to meet implausible climate targets, and all because of people literally like Mark Carney and his
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climate cartel. And now that I've ranted a bit, maybe you have a question, but later I would like to
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talk about aviation. Oh, please. My first question is just take us back to GFANS. So that's what Mark
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that came out of the UN Climate Change Conference in Glasgow, as you said, in 2021. From my understanding,
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that works to debank large oil and gas projects, but also impose these DEI sustainable development
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goals onto financial markets. So all of a sudden we've got Mark Carney trying to run to replace
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Justin Trudeau. I think he will. I think he's the chosen one. But he's sort of rebranding himself as
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Mr. Team Canada, anti-carbon tax on the consumer. But given what he's been doing for, I guess,
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since he left the Bank of England, how can we believe any of it? I certainly don't.
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Well, you're quite right. The whole GFANS and all the other organizations around it,
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and in the climate cartel report, they name groups like Ceres and Climate Action 100 Plus,
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which are like large conglomerates of asset managers. What they do is they pressure companies.
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They first come to the company, they engage with them, and they sit down and say, look,
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we'd like you to meet net zero targets. So the company goes, okay, okay, we'll do a report for
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you. So they make a little plan, and then they come back and say, well, and now I know you make
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oil and gas, but we think you should be in wind and solar. So the company's kind of like,
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well, it's not our core business. And they go, well, we can always find another CEO. And they go,
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you know, that's a great idea. Why don't we do that? Because it's not a lot of money for a big
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oil company to buy a wind or solar farm. They're dealing in projects that are worth hundreds of
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billions of dollars with a 30-year horizon, whereas a wind and solar farm is about, I don't know,
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100, 150 million. And you can put it up without, if there's no environmental restriction, you can
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probably put it up in about two years. And then you get to trade the carbon credits from the wind
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farm and all that. So there's also financial benefits. So then if the company doesn't comply
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like they want them to, you know, like I explained the other day, it's kind of like you bring your
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business plan, you say, we want to finance this pipeline. And they go, hmm, well, you know, according
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to your net zero plan, that would up your emissions. And you go, well, yeah, we're an oil company. We're
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going to sell oil all over the world. And they go, well, you know, then your emissions would go up.
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We want them to go down. Now, of course, the shareholders who invest in a company, whether it is
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an oil company or whether it's an aviation company, they want to make some money back.
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So, you know, you have to have improved efficiency. You have to have additional customers. You have to
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have growth in order to do that. And effectively, these guys are trying to put these companies on the
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ropes and out of business. And now if they don't comply, their steps get more and more onerous.
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And they actually go in and replace board members, because if they're not compliant enough,
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they want to refresh the board. So, you know, they're really manipulating markets behind the
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scenes. And these corporations are really kind of held hostage because they need the money.
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You know, also, in the meantime, these organizations are funding environmental
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groups to act as they're, you know, chattering voices as if there's public support for these
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plants. I wanted to mention the aviation issue because it's a very clear example. And I think
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a lot of people will be aware of it. And it's in the climate control report from the House
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Judiciary Committee. And there's also a very good video clip. I can send you that. You might want
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to put it in the interview with Rep. Thomas Massey. And he's saying to them, look, you know,
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in your documents, you are engaging in antitrust violations because you are colluding to affect
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markets. And that's against the law in these states. It's been against the law for like 100 years.
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So, in the aviation industry, they want them to reduce fuel, jet fuel consumption worldwide
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to 2019 levels. How to do that? They're saying that the companies have to do demand management,
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which in short means make life miserable for people who want to fly, even though they're your
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customers, because we want you to meet these stupid ESG goals. So, you know, they're on the ropes
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again, they need the money. They were all very deeply affected by the COVID crash. And so that
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and many of them had had to take money from governments and governments forced them to comply
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with the carbon markets, carbon credit rules that were set up by Mark Carney and Michael Bloomberg with
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their task force on climate related disclosures. So now you have an aviation company that has to
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issue tickets with the carbon footprint of the ticket. I'm sure everybody's seen that now, right? You buy a
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ticket, it tells you how many, you know, what your mass of CO2 footprint is for that flight. They recommend
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that the airline, instead of offering short haul flights, tell people to take a high speed train. And if it's
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available, or to offer a rail and aviation package to keep people from flying. So in France, they've
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actually done that. They've canceled all short haul flights, you have to take a train, period. So, you
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know, these are imposing on your freedoms. And you're being affected by this, you know, you go to the
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airport with your bags, and they go, Oh, sorry, we changed the rules, you can't take that bag anymore.
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You have to pay $100. And you go, what? Like, that's crazy. Last time, you know, it was free,
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and then it was $25. Now it's $100. And so you're mad at the airline. But the airline is just trying
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to comply with these activist investor groups who are part of the climate control collusion and
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antitrust operation. So, you know, it's, it's disgusting. And one of the things also they noted
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in the report, is that despite the fact that we have to eat, the fundamental fact that people have
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to eat, the climate cartel sees agriculture as one of the biggest targets in reducing emissions.
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And they said that even if all the other emissions were cut, agriculture would still be the largest
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emission. So, you know, the whole thing about eat bugs is actually on the minds of these people.
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Um, and behind the scenes, what you don't know, is that, for instance, there's an interview with
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Mark Carney, and he's talking about sustainable aviation fuel. There's very, very little of that
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in the world. And we have a report by Robert Lyman, who summarizes JP Morgan report, the Robert
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Lyman's report is called speed bumps on the road to net zero, I believe it is. Anyway, in it,
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he notes how tiny the amount of sustainable aviation fuel is in the world. In the interview
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with Mark Carney, he's talking about how in the UK, they made a law that 10% of the fuel in all
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flights leaving the UK has to be sustainable aviation fuel. Then he brags about how he, as part of
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Brookfield, found this company in Texas that was producing it. They made a huge investment there.
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And, you know, you have to look at this. Mark Carney was an advisor to the UK on climate
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after he left his role as Bank of England governor. So, you know, who is setting up the rules?
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Do you mean that you may be seeing a path back to the public sector?
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Well, I do spend some time advising on what, you know, again, pro bono, but advising on the types of
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policies that are going to have maximum impacts for investors. So I'll give you, I'll give you an
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example, which is one of the issues, it's not the biggest issue, it's like 2% of global emissions,
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you wouldn't know it from the headlines, but 2% of global emissions is for air travel,
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emissions from air travel. Now, so the question is, are we going to have green sustainable aviation
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fuel? What's happened in the UK, the EU, is they've said to major airlines, look, if you're flying in
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and out of Heathrow or wherever, you have to have 10% of your load has to be sustainable aviation fuel,
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by I think it's 2030. Consequence of that policy has been to convert some, some entrepreneurs in
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Texas, in this case, a company called Infineon, to become economic, because all of a sudden,
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American Airlines, British Airways need to buy that fuel, they'll pay a green premium, you've got an
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offtake, you know, that high credit quality. And in that case, we put, we Brookfield put a billion
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dollars to work there. And, you know, it's a fantastic opportunity. The point being, without
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the policy, you know, the policy has to drive it and drive things down. So yeah, I'm dodging your
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question. I know, yeah, I know you're dodging your question. And making your life more expensive,
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and life more difficult, way more difficult for corporations, who just want to do their ordinary
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business. You know, they don't want to have to comply with all these ridiculous rules, because none of them
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are for safety, none of them are for efficiency, none of them are for saving the planet. They're all for
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enriching these green crony capitalists. And they're actually probably damaging safety, and certainly
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damaging efficiency. So, you know, he's a big risk, because he's the architect of all this.
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Right. And at the end of the day, it makes certain modes of travel just completely out of the reach
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of a normal person. Mark Carney will still be able to fly because he can afford it. But these policies
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will just trap us in our little 15 minute cities. I'm so glad you pointed out the, you know, the wash,
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rinse, repeat cycle of crony capitalism with the likes of Mark Carney, because we've just seen this
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with Randy Boissoneau, right? Liberal MP Randy Boissoneau. You know, he's in the House of
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Commons voting on lockdown restrictions, bless you very much. He's in the House of Commons voting on
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lockdown restrictions, including the necessity to wear a mask when you vote, and then his company
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is selling the masks to Elections Canada. And that caused an outrage. But now we've got Mark Carney,
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the architect of these green screen schemes on one side, and then his massive investment vehicle,
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Brookfield, investing in the companies that stand to benefit from the green schemes. It's,
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and he's, he's going to be in charge of Canada, hopefully, very short lived.
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And on that point, on that point, there is a real life Mark Carney example in Canada before he
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entered the leadership race. He was advocating last spring for heat pumps. So he was in a,
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he gave a presentation for Canada 2020. I think it was looking ahead, if I'm not mistaken. That was
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the name of his presentation. And in the question period after they said, you know, is there anything
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that you think, you know, what about the carbon tax? And are there things that you think the
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government could be doing better? And he said, well, you know, personally, I think the government
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should have bought a million heat pumps, instead of investing in EV battery plants.
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Well, it turns out that Brookfield is a partner with train who produces heat pumps.
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And at the same time, 350.org in Canada started running a heat pumps for all campaign using Seth
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Klein, who's the author of The Good War, A Good War, which is all about using World War II tactics
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to fight climate change, meaning a command and control economy. And so, Seth, whether he's directly
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or indirectly a part of the climate cartel out of the states, it's all part of this concept of like
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a war on climate, which is actually a war on us ordinary people and the American way of life.
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Carbon tax Kearney and the heat pump hustle have come to town. And we've learned about the lobbying efforts
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that carbon tax Kearney has been undertaking to enrich himself using his access as a special
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advisor to the government in the UK. And it's really interesting, the similarities to what's
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happened after carbon tax Kearney was named the de facto finance minister by this prime minister.
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When the prime minister lost confidence in his finance minister and he brought in Kearney,
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we saw the exact same kind of behavior that we've seen from carbon tax Kearney in the UK.
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And that, of course, includes within hours of his being appointed to this role, where the prime minister
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is shielding him from Canada's conflict of interest laws, notably the same laws that that prime minister
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was found guilty of breaking twice, broke the law twice, that liberal prime minister, just like
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his public safety minister broke the law, just like their trade minister broke the law.
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But he's shielding Mark Kearney from that law because within hours of having been named to that
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position, what did he do? Well, he thought he'd start by doing what liberals do, and that's help out
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their buddies. A $2.14 billion loan for his friend who runs Telesat. Now, the liberals got
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really upset when I talked about how there are market-based solutions, of course, that could do
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much cheaper what they were proposing to do. But it wasn't about solving high-speed internet, it was about
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enriching their friends. What else did Mark Kearney do in his first week on the job? Well, he tried to get
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his hands on $10 billion pension dollars in a scheme for Brookfield, the company that he's a CEO of.
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And in that same first week, what did Carbon Tax Kearney do? Well, he decided that he'd let the
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prime minister know, you need to change mortgage rules so that we can have longer, larger insured
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mortgages. Well, why would Carbon Tax Kearney want to do that? Of course, because Brookfield,
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the company of which he is the board chair for, is the second largest private mortgage insurer in
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the country. This is what they do. They help out liberal insiders all while Canadians struggle just
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to get by. So, what's the upside for Canadians with the appointment of a de facto finance minister
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outside the bounds of the obligations that public office holders have? The ethical rules that these
00:29:05.840
liberals can't seem to stay on the right side of? Well, we know that he's looking to succeed the prime
00:29:13.200
minister, and obviously the liberal prime minister wants to displace the finance minister as a
00:29:17.760
contender for that job. But when you boil it all away, it's another liberal elite who wants to help
00:29:26.000
his friends and liberal insiders. Now, one of the other things that I wanted to talk to you about
00:29:31.520
is something that is outside of your capacity at Friends of Science, but it is something that is
00:29:37.520
near and dear to your heart, and that's historical truth. And you would think, given the history of
00:29:44.960
Mark Carney's family, it would be near and dear to his heart too. But you have covered the church
00:29:51.040
burnings and the allegations of some sort of Rwanda or Armenian-style genocide, which is alleged to have
00:29:58.640
unfolded at Canada's residential schools, if you take all your news from the left. But Mark Carney doesn't
00:30:06.640
have a lot to say about this, does he? Yeah, and it's quite strange, disturbing even.
00:30:14.080
When he was in the UK, he was deemed to be the most famous Catholic, one of the most famous Catholics
00:30:19.520
in the UK. And you would think that a person of his prominence would have something to say about all
00:30:28.880
these Catholic churches being burned down, about allegations that Roman Catholic priests incinerated
00:30:35.040
babies that were born from Indigenous students that they impregnated, which is the theme of the film
00:30:42.560
Sugarcane, which is about to win an Oscar. Perhaps it's nominated for that. You would think that he would
00:30:49.360
have something to say about that, because his father, Robert Carney, was an eminent Canadian historian,
00:30:55.840
a professor at the University of Alberta. He was on the board of the Alberta Catholic Public Trustees,
00:31:02.320
or whatever the terminology is for that. And, you know, he did a lot of work on the historic
00:31:09.760
Indian residential schools. And his view would be today termed to be a residential school denier,
00:31:16.880
even though he was working with the actual historical documentation. And he noted things like that the
00:31:23.200
residential schools were actually the medical and social services hub of the day. They took in orphans,
00:31:29.680
they took in people in need of all kinds of descriptions, and helped them. And yet now today
00:31:37.120
they're being denigrated. And Mark Carney has nothing to say about it, nothing to say about burning churches,
00:31:43.200
nothing to say about the denigration of these devoted, dedicated men and women, the priests and nuns,
00:31:50.720
not only Roman Catholics, of course, there were other denominations, but predominantly Roman Catholic,
00:31:56.560
who gave their lives for pittance for these students, and now are denigrated on the world stage
00:32:05.200
with all these lies. Nothing to say. He's silent.
00:32:09.760
Yeah, it's utter silence. And that's not to say that he hasn't spoken out about other faith communities.
00:32:17.120
It's just this one that he just seems to avoid. He's just fully ingratiated into the Liberal Party
00:32:23.440
line on this. For example, you know, like, and good for him, he said, the Ismaili community,
00:32:30.080
he sent them his well wishes, after the Aga Khan died. And he said that he was inspired by the Aga Khan's
00:32:40.640
example of service, and he joins the Ismaili community in mourning his loss. But so he's attuned
00:32:46.640
to these, you know, religious issues in certain communities, except, I guess, his own.
00:32:52.320
So, yeah, it's very strange, very disturbing, actually, because, you know, that's another
00:32:58.480
area that the whole climate cult is about to exploit. And that's the indigenous community.
00:33:03.520
And, for example, Deloitte has a number of reports out about nature climate solutions,
00:33:09.040
and how these projects will be indigenous led. And the whole idea is really to take a block of land,
00:33:15.280
again, it's the carbon trading thing, keep it pristine, you know, give some jobs to a few land
00:33:22.400
guardians, water keepers, and, you know, basically limit indigenous people from achieving what they
00:33:33.600
could in the modern world. Excuse me, it's kind of like turning the clock back, really. And throwing
00:33:40.800
money at them, where when, you know, this doesn't actually develop the community. And Deloitte will
00:33:49.040
make a lot of money off it. And thousands, millions of indigenous people will still live in abject
00:33:55.200
poverty on reserve. And a few elite will cash in. Yeah, I mean, if you damn people to generational
00:34:02.240
poverty by denying them the ability to develop their resources and, and earn good paying jobs,
00:34:08.320
then I guess they're there to exploit the next time around when you need them. And this has happened,
00:34:13.680
you mentioned the Great Bear Rainforest off the top of the show. That was then used as one of the
00:34:21.120
reasons why the federal government should abandon the Northern Gateway pipeline, because they had to
00:34:27.920
keep that land pristine. And here we are, that would have been an actual export pipeline built in the
00:34:34.000
private sector, which would have increased Canada's GDP and also broken the monopoly, I think it's what it's
00:34:42.240
called, with the United States as our single foreign buyer of oil, which as we see is turning out to
00:34:50.000
be a bit of a problem right now. But yes, it's happened in the past, they will do it again.
00:34:54.640
And who made that at that an election promise to shut down Northern Gateway? Justin Trudeau.
00:35:01.520
Exactly. Michelle, is there anything else we need to know about Mark Carney? Oh, well,
00:35:12.880
you know, he and his wife work as a team. We have a video called Climate Crimes or Eco Shakedown from
00:35:20.480
about 2016. And we noted in that video, first of all, when he made the speech of the tragedy of the
00:35:26.240
Horizons to Lloyds of London, a fellow named Steve Kopitz, who was with Princeton Energy Advisors in
00:35:32.080
the States, went through his presentation and found that all of his data points were incorrect. And yet,
00:35:41.600
all this data was freely available on US government websites. So he thought that it was a failure of
00:35:49.840
an analysis. And he also wondered, you know, how could it be that a governor of a Bank of England
00:35:55.840
could be so wrong? And he felt that it was intentionally skewed. So that was a turning
00:36:02.000
point for the entire global banking and corporate system. Because that tragedy of the Horizons,
00:36:08.560
breaking the tragedy of the Horizons speech, was when Mark Carney got banks and insurance companies
00:36:16.880
to get on the climate bandwagon. And before that, they really, you know, they weren't involved at
00:36:23.200
all. And then they became formally involved after that. But his wife, Diana Carney, was with Canada 2020
00:36:32.160
back in 2013. And she was already pushing a carbon tax then. She's now apparently working with Euro Asia
00:36:39.840
group, which is with Gerald Butts. So, you know, you see that there's this little complex, tightly bound
00:36:49.920
click of people on the climate bandwagon, and all connected to very influential players.
00:36:57.120
So, yeah, Mr. Outsider, he seems to be the main insider.
00:37:04.160
I have nothing to do with this. I just made it all up myself. And now I'm trying to implement it
00:37:09.200
globally. Yeah, exactly. Michelle, how do people support the work of Friends of Science? Because
00:37:17.680
you are this little organization against well-funded activists and, you know, also the mainstream media
00:37:27.200
that has a completely homogenous viewpoint on the climate scare. Well, one way that you can support
00:37:33.760
us is to get your copy of Energy and Climate at a Glance. These booklets are $15. You can order them
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on our website. And that will help us. And it will also help you because then you have the facts at hand.
00:37:48.400
You know, there's graphs and it's very straightforward, plain language, but it shows you the implications
00:37:54.080
of net zero. And it shows you that there isn't a case for a climate emergency. And then you'll be able
00:38:00.400
to have more informed conversations with family, friends and policy makers. So if you go to our
00:38:08.480
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00:38:21.520
You can share our material. I know some people are financially unable to make that kind of support.
00:38:27.360
You can just share our material on social media. We have a very active YouTube channel, a great blog,
00:38:33.280
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00:38:42.640
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00:38:50.800
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00:38:58.960
we don't have a big library of French material yet. But please do go to that site climatechange101.ca
00:39:06.000
and have a look. And you know, talk about us phone the media when you see things in the media that say,
00:39:12.880
oh, it's the hottest year ever. You know, if you have the this kind of information, you can phone them
00:39:18.560
up and say, you know, baloney, you can call them out on all their climate hysteria, because you'll have
00:39:24.080
the facts. So that's how you can help us. CBC has an ombudsman. CBC has an ombudsman, and they have
00:39:33.520
to take complaints. That's right. Yes. And people could bombard the ombudsman. Yes, they certainly
00:39:38.880
could. So, you know, our main thing is we stand for open civil debate on climate and energy topics
00:39:46.480
and full cost benefit before such policies are implemented. And if we'd followed that,
00:39:53.600
that used to be the norm in public policy. If we'd followed that rule, we wouldn't be in the mess we're
00:39:58.720
in now. Well, Michelle, thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you so much for all you do
00:40:04.960
to document not only the reality of what's going on behind the scenes with the climate scare, but also
00:40:12.960
with the other lies that are told in the culture. And thanks for always sort of doing your best to
00:40:19.440
bring the heat and hysteria down with some calm facts, because the climate scare and a lot of the
00:40:26.560
things in our, you know, just in the public sphere are fed by fear and anxiety. And I think friends
00:40:36.000
of science, but also you personally, Michelle, you do your best to sort of act as an antidote to those
00:40:42.000
things. So I appreciate that so much. Thank you. That's what we try to do. Okay. Thanks for having
00:40:54.640
Well, we've come to the portion of the show. That's really your portion of the show. You're
00:40:59.840
the guest on the third segment because without you, there's no rebel news. So I'd like to turn
00:41:05.520
over the last part of the show to you and your opinions. If you want your feedback right on air,
00:41:11.520
I'm giving you my email address right now. It's real easy. Sheila at rebel news.com put gun show
00:41:18.720
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over there. So YouTube Rumble comment section, I go looking over there too. Now, today's letter
00:41:53.520
comes from a regular viewer of the show, long time loyal supporter of rebel news. And I think almost
00:42:01.600
every single project over here at rebel news, including the documentaries that I've worked on,
00:42:06.560
it's Bruce Atchison from Radway and his cat Delta. And he's writing to me on last week's show that I
00:42:14.560
did with Rick Igersich of Canada's national firearms association. And if I recall correctly,
00:42:22.320
Bruce is not a firearms owner, but he cares deeply in property rights. And so he joined the NFA
00:42:29.040
to show support for Canada's firearms owning community and property rights in Canada. And
00:42:36.880
he writes to me and says, when I was sent to Jericho Hill School for the deaf and blind,
00:42:41.360
our care packages from home were confiscated, and the treats were shared out to the other kids.
00:42:48.480
Any money was confiscated too. This was my first exposure to socialism.
00:42:54.000
Awesome. Gun confiscation is just like our care packages. Our toys were for all kids to share,
00:43:00.400
and if they got broken, too bad. And some toys just disappeared. I was given a cloth turtle,
00:43:06.000
which contained a bar of soap. I only got to use it once. And the silver dollar my Uncle Bill gave me
00:43:11.600
when he visited wasn't in the desk drawer when I asked for it. Never do I ever want to be managed
00:43:19.600
by government appointed supervisors ever again. Bruce. Yeah. You know, there's that old adage,
00:43:26.560
that sort of dad joke that you can teach your kids about socialism by taking their
00:43:33.120
Halloween candy, take 50% of their Halloween candy and leave them with like the Twizzlers and the gross
00:43:40.400
salt water coffee. And you can take all the sour patch kids and the other good things, the full
00:43:49.760
cans of pop. Yeah. I mean, that's so unfair, but it is how socialism works. You know, they take from
00:44:00.800
you and give to the people who, you know, as so often happens in our society, the people who are not
00:44:07.520
willing to work as hard as you for the things that you have. And ultimately, at the end of the day,
00:44:12.880
it disincentivizes you from working so hard. Because it's like, why the heck are you working
00:44:16.320
so hard to have your nice things? Most people don't have to work so hard and they get your nice things.
00:44:22.240
So, but we live in a society which takes 50% of our income for taxes, for services most of us will
00:44:29.040
never use. So there's that too. Well, everybody, that's the show for today. Thank you so much
00:44:34.720
for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.
00:44:40.080
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00:44:45.440
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