Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Michelle Stirling debunks anti-Catholic 'shock-u-mentary' on residential schools

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00:00:55.780 What really happened at the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Azerbaijan that just wrapped?

00:01:11.220 Then, what is the real story behind the acclaimed documentary about Indian residential schools, Sugar Land?

00:01:20.080 My guest today has the answers for both.

00:01:22.260 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:25.780 The most recent United Nations Climate Change Conference just wrapped in Azerbaijan.

00:01:46.920 And wouldn't you know it, same result as always, the developed world, us, we have to send all of our money to the under and undeveloped world.

00:01:57.700 And wouldn't you know it, the world's second largest economy, China, gets counted as part of the undeveloped world. 0.98

00:02:05.480 And they get a free license to create about one coal-fired electricity generating plant every single week while you are punished with onerous taxes and an early coal phase-out here in Canada.

00:02:24.000 So, our guest today is going to help us cut through the mainstream media polishing of the extreme wealth transfer that continues to be foisted upon the Western world by the United Nations under the guise of combating the deadly climate change.

00:02:46.240 But my guest tonight is also an independent historical researcher, and she has a brand new mini documentary debunking the lies of a very acclaimed documentary called Sugarcane.

00:03:02.480 Sugarcane is about an alleged crime which happened at an Indian residential school near Williams Lake.

00:03:14.560 Now, she got her hands on what really happened.

00:03:20.360 And while Sugarcane is considered part of the true crime genre, my friend Michelle Sterling, who is also the communications director at Friends of Science, makes the case for why Sugarcane should be in the fiction section.

00:03:38.820 Anyway, here's our interview.

00:03:40.760 We cover a lot of topics.

00:03:42.260 Take a listen.

00:03:44.560 So, joining me now is good friend of Rebel News, Michelle Sterling, the communications director at Friends of Science.

00:03:53.280 And I thought I'd have Michelle on the show, as I do really every year at this time of year, to discuss what did or didn't happen at the United Nations annual climate change conference.

00:04:03.080 It's called COP, for those in the know, but I mean, it is really just the annual soiree for the world's environmentalist and green elites this year in a very nice place.

00:04:15.600 Baku, Azerbaijan.

00:04:17.020 I was not familiar with Azerbaijan, but Baku looks like a pretty nice place to party for two weeks if you're an environmentalist.

00:04:25.080 Michelle, thanks for coming on the show.

00:04:26.880 My pleasure.

00:04:27.360 Thanks for having me.

00:04:29.260 So, tell us, what came out of the Conference of the Parties this year?

00:04:34.740 Well, I think that if people have a subscription to the Western Standard, they can read a summary of Robert Lyman's work.

00:04:45.700 And there's a two-part thing there.

00:04:47.280 One thing that came out of the Conference of the Parties is that there was an acknowledgement of costed needs.

00:04:54.640 And so, they want trillions of dollars to give to the Global South, as it's called, because the whole premise of the climate movement is that it's the industrialized nations, the Global North, that has caused the climate crisis, the alleged climate crisis.

00:05:12.040 And therefore, we must pay, pay, pay, pay to the Global South. 0.96

00:05:16.760 And so, they wanted $1.3 trillion by 2030, which would be money from your pocket, may I note.

00:05:27.280 But actually, they decided that they could come up with maybe $300 billion U.S. by 2035.

00:05:35.040 Now, you have to remember, there's been a Green Climate Fund for the past many years of supposedly $100 billion a year to do exactly the same thing to pay off the Global South.

00:05:48.680 So, coming up with $300 billion was like a huge insult to the activists from the Global South and all of the ENGOs as well.

00:05:58.680 So, they also want to encourage developing countries like China to cough up, and China's like, uh-uh, under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, we are still a developing nation, we're never going to pay.

00:06:15.020 So, that's pretty wild.

00:06:18.100 And they also came up with Article 6.

00:06:20.440 They finally finalized a method of international carbon markets facilitating country-to-country trading and to make a carbon crediting mechanism fully operational, including how registries will work.

00:06:39.060 So, this was actually the golden apple, if you like, of the COP conference, because this is what all the big ENGOs and the big green philanthropies like Bloomberg and Climate Works and the European Climate Foundation, this is what they've been working for for decades.

00:06:58.840 And you can go back and read Matthew Nisbet's peer-reviewed paper from, I think it's around 2018, called Strategic Philanthropy in the Post-Cap-and-Trade Era, because they had imagined that this kind of two cap-and-trade systems in the world, one based in Europe, one in North America, would have been set up and running by, you know, under the Obama administration, and it didn't happen.

00:07:24.620 So, that was a real heartbreaker for them then.

00:07:27.600 They must be cheering on now.

00:07:30.400 Therefore, it is time for me to make the statement that I love to make about carbon markets, and this is from Harper's Magazine.

00:07:38.040 It was written by Mark Shapiro in 2010, and that was the moment that I stopped believing in climate change as a catastrophe.

00:07:46.680 Carbon markets entail the lack of delivery of an invisible substance to no one.

00:07:53.540 And that was 14 years ago, and here we are.

00:07:56.960 Yeah, and that's what they agreed to do at the COP event.

00:08:03.420 You know, and in the middle of this, you mentioned some of the big foundations.

00:08:09.440 I think Canadians are familiar with Tides, who had to rebrand and to make way because Canadians figured out a little bit too much about what they were up to with regard to our politics and our policies around oil and gas in this country.

00:08:22.280 I think people are familiar with the Rockefeller Foundation and their Tar Sands campaign.

00:08:27.220 But there's another one in the mix of this, the Trottier Family Foundation.

00:08:34.540 They're heavily involved in the United Nations Climate Change Conference, and they do influence Canadian politics.

00:08:40.620 Why don't you explain that to us?

00:08:41.740 Well, at COP28, they came up with a ball cap that had capped emissions on it.

00:08:48.760 So at COP28, the Trottier Family Foundation was handing out all these caps.

00:08:54.060 And at COP28, that's when, from out of the blue, Stephen Gilbeau announced that they would be imposing a cap on emissions in Alberta.

00:09:02.780 And so I have come up with a theme of cap delusions because the Trottier Family Foundation, in its own statements on a website called Philanthropy for Change,

00:09:17.060 they claim that they've been funding most of the ENGOs in Canada.

00:09:21.320 At COP28, they funded most of them.

00:09:24.500 All of them were on board.

00:09:26.340 And this woman named Caroline Bouillette of Climate Action Network of Canada, which is an internationally networked group of ENGOs,

00:09:37.640 she was running around wearing their emissions cap, and she was sneering at Premier Smith for running a campaign of advertising,

00:09:46.700 trying to tell people, scrap the cap, because it's going to cut like $20 billion out of the revenues,

00:09:55.100 and this will make everyone poor, because Canada does not live on subsidies from the government.

00:10:00.020 The government lives on revenues from oil and gas.

00:10:03.640 People don't know that.

00:10:04.720 Anyway, and they also came up with this pathways, what is it, paving the way for an equitable future.

00:10:11.980 This was just before COP29, this past one.

00:10:16.240 And COP actually means conference of the parties, parties that are signatory to the original United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.

00:10:25.460 So anyway, Caroline Bouillette was running around critiquing Premier Smith and wearing her little emissions cap. 1.00

00:10:32.460 So I came up with the cap delusions, because this paper by her organization is full of delusions.

00:10:39.440 Like they just want to give away all of your money to various climate causes.

00:10:43.520 And they have absolutely no idea of the consequences, the implications for ordinary people.

00:10:52.400 They don't care.

00:10:54.200 And again, groups like the McConnell Foundation have funded them.

00:10:58.300 And you have to realize that Climate Action Network, the international organization, is based out of the UK.

00:11:05.520 And they're funded by groups like the European Climate Foundation, Climate Works, George Soros, Open Society.

00:11:16.120 So all the usual suspects.

00:11:18.540 So many of these groups are interested actually in societal collapse.

00:11:23.300 They want degrowth.

00:11:24.460 They think that's a good thing.

00:11:26.040 They think that if you can't fly, if you can't drive, if you have to eat bugs instead of steak, then they will save the planet.

00:11:35.780 And, you know, then essentially you'll become a useless eater with a joyless life.

00:11:41.900 And we all know what happens next after that. 0.89

00:11:44.680 So we really do have to cap the delusions of these people.

00:11:51.160 And we can't have these so-called charities and foundations, which have special tax status, destroying the lives of taxpaying Canadians.

00:12:02.180 Because that's what they're doing.

00:12:04.220 Right.

00:12:04.560 Like, I think people really need to understand.

00:12:07.320 These people have charitable status in this country, which means they have preferential treatment within the tax system.

00:12:16.180 But they do absolutely nothing charitable.

00:12:18.420 They do not help their fellow man whatsoever.

00:12:21.200 In fact, they impose harm on their fellow man through their crazy policies.

00:12:24.760 And, you know, to hear this young girl complaining that Daniel Smith has a $7 million campaign to get around the lies about the emissions cap, she's got plenty of money.

00:12:41.380 And second, Daniel Smith, the Alberta government, as much as I dislike government spending in all of its forms, she has a responsibility to steward the resource that all Albertans own and then maximize the value of that resource.

00:12:58.460 We need to think of her as an executrix of an estate. 1.00

00:13:01.600 It's her job to make sure the estate is worth as much as possible.

00:13:05.240 And if she has to spend $7 million to fight a damaging production cap, is what it really is, then, okay, fine, that's government spending I'm in favor of.

00:13:16.300 Yeah, and, you know, you saw in the, we did a little video about the whole cap delusions.

00:13:22.360 You saw in the Calgary Herald, there was an article by two members of the Canadian Association of Physicians for the Environment, Dr. Vipon's organization.

00:13:30.540 And they were also saying, you know, $7 million could pay for nurses and doctors and healthcare, why is she wasting this money? 1.00

00:13:38.800 Well, you know, $7 million is nothing compared to $20 billion, which, you know, I believe would be annual revenue.

00:13:46.600 So losing that would be damaging to every aspect of society, and especially modern medicine, because modern medicine is very expensive, and many of the revenues from oil and gas support modern medicine.

00:14:02.860 And furthermore, all of the PPEs and protective devices, the visors, the one-use gowning, all these materials used in medicine, in modern medicine, are made from oil and gas and coal products.

00:14:22.240 It's ludicrous that these doctors are against fossil fuels when they can't do modern medicine without them.

00:14:31.240 Yeah, they're against fossil fuels until they have to fly to a climate change conference in a very nice place, Dr. Joe Vipon.

00:14:39.480 Right.

00:14:40.140 He was also in favor of lockdowns until it was like, but I have to go to the climate change conference.

00:14:44.580 I guess I get to travel.

00:14:46.080 You get to stay at home.

00:14:47.620 And drag my daughter there and exploit her innocence.

00:14:51.120 Exactly.

00:14:51.580 Oh, these people with their kids as human shields.

00:14:53.680 Now, I wanted to give you the second half of the show to talk about something that is completely unrelated to your work with Friends of Science, but it is, I think it's a personal passion for you because you're somebody who believes deeply in the truth.

00:15:11.440 I think that's why you, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's why not only you do your work with Friends of Science, but you are also working on, in your own personal capacity, exposing the lies around residential schools and mass graves which happen at them in Canada.

00:15:32.500 So why don't you tell us a little bit about that?

00:15:33.960 I know you have a new mini doc too.

00:15:36.520 Yeah, I produced a mini documentary that rebuts the claims in a National Geographic documentary called Sugarcane.

00:15:44.700 And Sugarcane will be showing on National Geographic on December 9th, and then it starts streaming on Disney Plus and Hulu just in time for Christmas to denigrate and blood libel, especially the Roman Catholic Church, but all Christians and all Canadians and Canadian history. 0.67

00:16:02.120 So what's happened is two young filmmakers have made a documentary that takes two true stories and conflates them and turns it into one big lie.

00:16:13.520 And so my mini doc deconstructs these lies.

00:16:16.400 And basically the theme of Sugarcane is that priests impregnated Indigenous students at St. Joseph's Indian Residential School near the Sugarcane Reserve near Williams Lake in British Columbia.

00:16:32.840 And then they incinerated the unwanted newborn babies in the garbage burner at the school.

00:16:40.280 And so there is a true story that a baby was found in the incinerator there, but it was reported in the Williams Lake Tribune in 1959.

00:16:53.500 And an unwed mother had given birth at the school, but she had been driving home from Williams Lake to Canham Lake, where she lived.

00:17:01.200 And that's about an hour and a half drive.

00:17:03.280 So I suspect she went into labor along the way and just pulled in there.

00:17:06.880 She had taken a practical nursing course and knew how to deliver a baby and apparently thought the baby was stillborn. 1.00

00:17:15.160 So she put the baby in the incinerator and apparently fled. 0.98

00:17:20.920 Now, you know, anyone who's given birth can understand that a person would be likely in shock.

00:17:26.920 She might have been impaired in some other way, but we don't know because they never actually interview her.

00:17:31.280 So the story centers around the father of one of the young filmmakers.

00:17:36.240 The father's name is Ed Archie Noise Cat.

00:17:38.580 And he is, in fact, the baby who was found by the dairyman in the garbage burner.

00:17:43.100 And the dairyman saved his life.

00:17:44.940 He thought there was a cat trapped in there because he heard the crying.

00:17:48.880 The other story is that in the 1960s, there was a priest there who broke his vows.

00:17:53.940 He fell in love with a girl who was 22 years old.

00:17:58.100 She was working there as an employee, as a seamstress. 1.00

00:18:00.580 They did have a child together and the child was put up for adoption.

00:18:05.500 So that's a true story.

00:18:07.180 And I understand from people in the know that even though this happened, this was not a matter of rape.

00:18:14.500 It was consensual and that they stayed in touch for the rest of their lives.

00:18:20.900 There wasn't like this angst, if you like.

00:18:27.020 So, you know, they conflate these two stories.

00:18:30.100 And if you read the film critics' reviews, and I guess that's what really got me going because I started reading these film critic reviews. 0.92

00:18:36.200 They definitely get the impression that priests systematically raped students, burned unwanted babies in the incinerator.

00:18:45.640 There was infanticide going on and on and on and on like this.

00:18:49.080 It's like, so these film critics are creating a meta-narrative worldwide about Canada and Indian residential schools that is completely untrue.

00:18:58.980 But it's going to be very hard to counter it because, you know, this has been published in the New York Times, the Globe and Mail, the Irish Times, the Guardian, LA Times.

00:19:13.000 In fact, ironically, the film Sugarcane just won the Best True Crime Documentary Award by Critics' Choice and Best Political Documentary, even though it's not true.

00:19:29.680 And the real crime is the blood libel against Roman Catholics and Canadian history.

00:19:34.600 You know, it leaves me speechless because the ease with which they paint the hole with the crimes of the few makes me very angry.

00:19:51.960 It's just plain old, good old-fashioned bigotry, I think, anti-Christian bigotry.

00:19:57.480 And nobody is denying that bad things happened at residential schools. 0.99

00:20:03.060 But it also fosters the skepticism about residential schools, the denialism the other side wants to make illegal, when they just make up things like this.

00:20:15.040 It makes people almost skeptical, sometimes to a fault, because, well, you can't believe anything coming out of these people's mouths.

00:20:24.400 And just the lies breathed into the ether by these people and then repeated.

00:20:33.060 Just completely by the mainstream media.

00:20:36.360 It's evil.

00:20:37.380 Frankly, it's evil.

00:20:38.300 The idea that young nuns and priests were leaving civilization on the intent to do harm is outlandish.

00:20:50.580 Many of them did this out of just Christian charity, goodwill.

00:20:53.960 They were leaving everything they knew to go into the wilderness to help.

00:20:59.440 Right.

00:21:00.040 And I think that's the majority of the experience.

00:21:03.300 Yes.

00:21:03.820 And I think that the Canadian public really has to wake up and realize that this is not an issue confined only to the Indigenous community.

00:21:12.520 Because people don't remember, but the day after the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People was passed, which was June 21st, 2021, and that was less than a month after the claim that the Kamloops ban made of finding 215 unmarked graves, human remains, mass graves in their orchard.

00:21:35.080 So one month after that, less than one month, UNDRIP was passed, even though it had been contended by six premiers and several First Nations bans.

00:21:47.100 They did not want it to pass as written.

00:21:49.720 But of course, the atrocity propaganda pushed it right through.

00:21:52.800 But the day after it passed, China accused Canada of genocide on the world stage at the UN.

00:22:00.300 Now, Kimberly Murray is the special interlocutor on missing children and unmarked graves related to Indian residential schools.

00:22:10.620 She has just issued a more than 1,000-page report, which is her final report.

00:22:17.000 And in it, she now claims that Canada is guilty of an ongoing genocide, that we're guilty of human rights crimes, that we made enforced disappearances of children.

00:22:30.120 You know, this is like in parallel to what happened in Argentina, where political activists actually were disappeared by their government.

00:22:38.060 You know, people would show up in the middle of the night, sweep somebody away, then you'd never see them again.

00:22:43.680 That's what enforced disappearance is all about.

00:22:46.180 But, you know, in those cases, you had the mothers of those children standing in the government with a picture of their child and their date and name, you know, their occupation, last seen and such.

00:22:59.040 Like, we have no list of missing children in this country.

00:23:02.940 There's no list of names, no list of missing persons reports that were filed and unresolved.

00:23:10.360 And so she has filed this with the International Criminal Court of Justice and a few other international bodies like that.

00:23:18.320 So I think that she's just handed a geopolitical advantage to China.

00:23:22.760 And with all of the talk about foreign interference in Canada and the inquiry that's going on, you have to really ask yourself what's going on here.

00:23:32.020 And I think you have to ask yourself, if Bill C413 goes through, the residential school denialism bill that Leah Gazan and Kimberly Murray are promoting,

00:23:45.780 if that goes through, no one like myself would be able to try and defend and vindicate Canada if China charged us with genocide on the world stage.

00:23:56.440 And you might say, oh, well, that's just silly.

00:23:59.000 But remember, the once unipolar world where the U.S. was solely kind of the policeman of the world, the king of the world, if you like, that has dramatically changed.

00:24:12.840 And now the BRICS nations are exerting their strength.

00:24:16.280 It's a multipolar world.

00:24:17.720 And if Canada is accused of this or convicted of it at the world court, then, you know, we could be embargoed like South Africa was, for instance, under apartheid.

00:24:30.560 There could be other kinds of reparations demanded internally.

00:24:34.760 There could be civil violence related to it.

00:24:37.800 And as we see what's going on in the streets right now, that's not an impossibility at all.

00:24:42.920 So it's a very serious issue.

00:24:46.600 And, you know, things like sugarcane will obviously be used as proof that there was systemic infanticide and disappearing of children in Canada.

00:24:58.380 So I'll see you in jail.

00:25:01.060 I like lemon seed pocky.

00:25:03.160 I like lemon poppy seed cake, by the way.

00:25:06.160 We'll start a prison band, you and me.

00:25:09.260 I like the gall of the Chinese to even talk like this. 1.00

00:25:15.380 But at the same time, when we have our prime minister saying that we're guilty of genocide, why wouldn't the Chinese think it? 1.00

00:25:21.480 I mean, the Chinese are, as we speak, stripping Uyghur children of their Muslim names.

00:25:28.920 They are re-educating them, making sure that they don't ever speak any version of Arabic, taking away their Qurans, real re-education and slave labor, actual genocide, sterilization of Uyghur women. 0.98

00:25:47.680 But now, thanks to Justin Trudeau and the crazy NDP and the media misinformation around this, of course, they've got, to use Rachel Notley's language, social license to call us genociders.

00:26:02.060 Right. That's right.

00:26:04.280 And it's a very serious problem.

00:26:06.820 And it is, in some ways, also related to the climate issue, because, of course, part of the whole thing that happened at COP is because of the carbon trading thing.

00:26:15.760 One angle is that Canada will be a large park where anyone in the world can buy and sell nature-based climate solution carbon credits here.

00:26:27.080 And, of course, First Nations will be employed as land guardians and water keepers and fire guardians.

00:26:34.100 And, you know, it won't actually advance the careers of any of these young people, but they'll get paid for sort of sitting around watching the river.

00:26:42.480 You know, it's, and it actually, as someone mentioned to me the other day, it's the elites of the Indigenous community who will be skimming off this money.

00:26:53.060 It's the elites of the legal community who will be cashing in on these claims of genocide and ongoing reparations.

00:27:02.640 Because that's the upshot of Kimberly Murray's report, everyone, even though we've already paid billions of dollars in reparations.

00:27:11.060 We're on the hook for $76 billion in various land claims and class action suits.

00:27:19.260 Kimberly Murray says that we now also owe reparations for the phantom genocide.

00:27:25.560 So it's going to be a pretty big tab and it's going to be hard to fight, especially because mainstream media has fully bought into the narrative.

00:27:33.960 Michelle, how do people find your work about residential schools?

00:27:39.820 Actually, before we get there, I just want people to know that you have some, I would call it expertise in documenting Canadian history and speaking on Canadian history.

00:27:53.300 You're not just some lady from the Internet. 1.00

00:27:55.860 This has been, I think, a lifelong interest for you.

00:27:58.360 So just why don't you put that into context about how you are able to do this work?

00:28:04.540 Well, years ago, I did a series of documentaries with CFCN Calgary, CTV Calgary.

00:28:12.200 And Dr. Hugh Dempsey was my research supervisor at the time, Potena, flying chief.

00:28:18.000 He was the curator of the Glenville Museum, and he was married to Pauline Gladstone, and she was the daughter of the first Indigenous senator of Canada, Senator James Gladstone.

00:28:32.940 And Dr. Dempsey documented all kinds of material from sort of firsthand sources related to Treaty 7.

00:28:41.440 And so during that time period, I interviewed hundreds of people all over Alberta, mostly southern Alberta.

00:28:49.340 But I interviewed people like Grant McEwen, who was born in 1902.

00:28:54.140 So, and it's been a lifelong interest for me.

00:28:58.920 And, you know, I just can't stand watching Canada being destroyed by the settler historians who have no historical context whatsoever, in my opinion. 0.52

00:29:10.220 They always forget to mention that while we were trading peacefully with Indigenous people in Canada, in the States, they were conducting Indian wars from 1644 to 1924.

00:29:23.320 1924!

00:29:25.300 Yeah, a lot of Indigenous people in southern Manitoba were actually Americans, American who fled to Canada.

00:29:35.200 Oh, yes, there's a whole flock of people who came over the border after, well, after a massacre in the U.S. that was perpetrated with provocation by various Dakota people against the white people of that region.

00:29:53.040 And also, after Custer's last stand, the victorious Indigenous band under Sitting Bull came over the border for safety and we protected them.

00:30:04.340 We gave them asylum. 1.00

00:30:05.200 So, and actually, Leah Gazan is descended from one of those people, so she's the last person who should be complaining about Canadian history because her family benefited from the Northwest Mounted Police, one of whom is actually her forefather, if you go back in history.

00:30:29.820 And he supported her family in the past so that they didn't starve.

00:30:37.040 And her, I think it's her great-grandfather went to Indian residential school, even though he actually wasn't authorized to because he wasn't a status Indian.

00:30:45.380 But he did go there.

00:30:46.500 He was a devout Catholic.

00:30:47.960 He helped build the local Catholic church.

00:30:50.240 He was an incredibly good writer, and his works have been published all over the world because he was writing about those early times and the cowboy and Indian stories of the day.

00:31:00.720 So, you know, it's weird that she's turning on her own history.

00:31:05.720 Isn't that weird?

00:31:07.320 I mean, that's one of the things.

00:31:10.440 You can find an article by Nina Green on my sub-stack about that, and it's quite an incredible read.

00:31:19.560 Now, I'm glad you mentioned your sub-stack on this topic.

00:31:22.780 How do people see your documentary and also see your sub-stack, which is just brimming with information that you won't see in the mainstream media?

00:31:31.380 Well, my sub-stack is under my name, Michelle Sterling, S-T-I-R-L-I-N-G.

00:31:38.620 You can also see my work on Medium, again, under Michelle Sterling.

00:31:44.380 You can find The Bitter Roots of Sugarcane, which is the name of the mini-doc I did.

00:31:50.080 That's on Rumble.

00:31:51.240 It's also on Vimeo, and it's also linked within one of the articles by the same name on my sub-stack.

00:31:57.620 And it's all free.

00:32:00.160 You know, Sean Carlton, who's an academic at the University of Manitoba, says people like me are cashing in on residential school denialism.

00:32:08.980 Well, I'm doing this for free.

00:32:10.780 So there you go, Sean.

00:32:13.860 Yeah.

00:32:14.620 Whereas the money is flowing completely in the other direction, every time you make an allegation of a mass grave, the government says, here's your bag of money.

00:32:23.320 Don't bother digging.

00:32:24.620 Just here's your bag of money.

00:32:25.800 Michelle, and how do people support the work you do in the interest of truth at Friends of Science?

00:32:32.800 Because you guys will never take a penny from any level of government to do the work that you do.

00:32:37.920 No, we don't.

00:32:38.920 We're not a charity, so we don't issue tax receipts.

00:32:43.340 We are supported by our members and donors, so we don't represent any industry.

00:32:49.200 You can go to friendsofscience.org and click on the Join button.

00:32:54.660 And while you're there, you could buy a membership for a friend or family member as a Christmas gift.

00:32:59.580 Or you could buy one any time of the year for any reason.

00:33:01.940 But that will get people our newsletters that go out every two weeks from our volunteer directors.

00:33:09.720 One is called CLI-SCI, and it reviews recent climate science-related papers and grey work, grey papers, white papers, as well as peer-reviewed papers.

00:33:22.400 And the other is called Extracts.

00:33:25.520 And this is more political news, it follows the IPCC and various climate policies nationally, internationally, and does a breakdown of those.

00:33:36.760 And you'll also get our reports and a discount on our events, and you'll help us just by being a member.

00:33:44.360 So it's $40 for one year, $80 for three years.

00:33:48.620 It's a nominal sum.

00:33:49.920 If you want to throw in a donation, that's great, too.

00:33:51.960 If you don't want to become a member, please do send us an e-transfer for Christmas.

00:33:56.020 We'd love to have, I don't know, $22.

00:33:58.440 We've been doing this for 22 years, free.

00:34:01.140 So if you can help us, that'd be great.

00:34:04.160 I also cannot recommend your YouTube channel enough.

00:34:07.880 There's something for everybody there.

00:34:09.860 Longer-form content in the form of long-form sort of PowerPoint presentations and short, quick videos.

00:34:16.920 Videos meant for kids, too.

00:34:18.500 And it just cuts through the hysteria and jargon of the eco-radicals and breaks these, I think, purposefully complicated issues down to just the things that normal people can understand about how climate policy really affects your life.

00:34:34.040 So Friends of Science YouTube channel, cannot recommend it enough.

00:34:39.540 Michelle, thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:34:41.940 Thanks so much for your time.

00:34:43.220 Thanks so much for your pursuit of truth, both on the climate issue but also on Canadian history itself.

00:34:53.260 I know that you take a lot of heat being an advocate for truth on both issues, and we just can't thank you enough.

00:35:01.460 Thank you so much, and to everyone, Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas.

00:35:06.740 So they coincide this year.

00:35:08.760 So all the best to everyone, and let's hope that we have a better new year.

00:35:14.700 Yeah, here's to 2025.

00:35:16.380 Thanks, Michelle, so much.

00:35:17.360 We'll talk to you again very soon.

00:35:18.440 We'll talk to you again very soon.

00:35:48.440 Because without you, there's no Rebel News, so I care about what you think about the work that we do here.

00:35:52.900 So sheila at rebelnews.com.

00:35:55.200 Super easy to remember.

00:35:56.480 Put gun show letters in the subject line so I know why you're emailing me.

00:36:01.560 And let me know what you think.

00:36:03.440 But don't let that be the only way that you can contact me or let us at Rebel News know what you think about the stories that we cover and the people that we interview.

00:36:12.740 So if you're finding a free version of the show, a clip on YouTube or Rumble, go ahead and leave a comment there.

00:36:20.540 It's a good entry level for you to move toward full subscription, which is quite affordable.

00:36:28.500 Actually, it's only $8 a month to become a premium subscriber.

00:36:31.920 Maybe consider buying a subscription for one of your friends for Christmas.

00:36:37.120 It's the gift of truth for them.

00:36:39.000 It's the gift of financial stability in 2025 for us here at Rebel News.

00:36:43.820 So just consider that.

00:36:46.060 Okay.

00:36:46.340 So all that is to say, this week's letter comes to me by way of email.

00:36:53.540 It's, well, we'll just say it's anonymous because it's unsigned.

00:36:57.060 And Olivia Nefron, here's an editing note.

00:37:01.140 Please block out this person's email address because they left it unsigned.

00:37:04.700 And so I'd like to respect that.

00:37:06.080 So it says, just a quick note from an old guy.

00:37:08.980 Your closing tagline, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think,

00:37:13.400 reminds of the skit, You Were Speeding, from The Frantics, which was a Canadian comedy troupe,

00:37:19.800 mainly active in the late 70s and early 80s.

00:37:23.940 Slightly before my time.

00:37:25.380 I'm like, I was born in 79.

00:37:27.540 I looked it up and it was likely before your time as it was on their 1984 album, Frantic Times.

00:37:35.000 It clearly shows the change in CBC over the last 40 to 45 years

00:37:40.040 as I first heard it on their CBC radio program.

00:37:43.880 Anyway, if you want to spend one minute and 55 seconds of your life,

00:37:47.840 here's a link to You Were Speeding.

00:37:51.020 Keep up the great work.

00:37:52.340 You know what?

00:37:52.780 Let's spend a minute 55 together listening to The Frantics from, when was this?

00:38:02.940 1984.

00:38:04.020 I was in kindergarten.

00:38:05.300 Let's listen.

00:38:05.780 Excuse me, sir.

00:38:11.960 Would you mind getting out of your train of thought?

00:38:14.200 Huh?

00:38:14.480 What?

00:38:15.240 Where's the big idea, sir?

00:38:16.920 Oh, I'm sorry, officer.

00:38:18.440 I don't understand.

00:38:19.280 I was thinking.

00:38:20.360 Yeah, your mind was wandering all over the place.

00:38:22.780 May I see your degree, please?

00:38:24.060 Sure, here.

00:38:25.800 Take it out of the frame.

00:38:27.260 Sorry.

00:38:30.420 It's a community college learner's permit.

00:38:32.740 You need a BA to drive this idea home.

00:38:43.960 Oh, I must have been lateral thinking and not realized it.

00:38:47.980 See, I had to think fast to get around that mental block back there,

00:38:51.260 and I didn't notice the limits.

00:38:53.580 This degree's expired.

00:38:55.420 I ought to throw the encyclopedia at you.

00:38:58.420 Why?

00:38:58.880 Is this a controlled thought zone?

00:39:00.260 Yes, it is, sir.

00:39:00.940 See the sign?

00:39:02.840 School.

00:39:10.600 I guess I was letting my thoughts wander all over the avenue of consideration.

00:39:14.840 Mm-hmm.

00:39:15.680 You almost collided with established dogma back at those presumptions.

00:39:20.540 I wasn't thinking straight.

00:39:22.140 I see.

00:39:23.100 Have you been drinking, sir?

00:39:24.380 A couple of beers, but I'm not illogical.

00:39:26.420 Well, I should stop your thought process right now, but I'm going to give you a ticket for

00:39:30.460 quick thinking.

00:39:31.360 That's three points off my IQ.

00:39:35.180 And the fine is a penny for your thoughts.

00:39:37.700 I'll get back into the flow of normal thought, officer.

00:39:40.480 You go straight to your inevitable conclusion.

00:39:42.460 It's foregone.

00:39:43.080 You can't miss it.

00:39:43.880 Yes.

00:39:44.680 You understand?

00:39:45.460 Yes.

00:39:45.740 Yes.

00:39:46.080 Thank you very much, officer.

00:39:47.240 Okay. 0.95

00:39:47.420 Kids, too damn smart for their own good.

00:39:53.200 That is back when CBC quite possibly had a purpose in delivery of Canadian content to 0.82

00:40:02.060 the Canadian public.

00:40:02.980 But in the time of the internet and social media and anybody and everybody having the

00:40:11.900 ability to start a podcast, start a stream, do the news, record the news, report the news,

00:40:17.620 do we really need the behemoth of $1.4 billion in annual subsidies telling us that if you don't

00:40:26.260 support the CBC, well, then you're not Canadian.

00:40:29.040 I don't think so.

00:40:30.720 And you know what?

00:40:32.600 Before I go, let's show another clip.

00:40:35.160 Chris Sims of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, regular guest on the show here, just giving it

00:40:42.120 to the CBC, to the Heritage Committee this week.

00:40:47.640 Take a listen.

00:40:48.100 The CBC is getting $1.4 billion from taxpayers this year.

00:40:53.220 That money could instead pay the salaries of around 7,000 paramedics and 7,000 police officers.

00:41:00.100 That money could instead pay for groceries for about 85,000 Canadian families for a year.

00:41:07.120 Instead, taxpayers are paying $1.4 billion so the CBC can hand out huge bonuses, get microscopic

00:41:15.300 ratings, and overpay its out-of-touch executives.

00:41:19.300 CBC CEO Catherine Tate refused to tell this committee if she will take a severance when

00:41:24.320 she leaves the state broadcaster.

00:41:26.540 Tate considers that to be a personal matter, end quote.

00:41:30.140 It's not personal if it's taxpayers' money.

00:41:32.640 Documents obtained by the Canadian Taxpayers Federation show Tate is paid between $460,000

00:41:39.720 and $551,000 this year, with a bonus of up to 28%.

00:41:46.200 That is a bonus of $154,000.

00:41:50.720 That bonus is more than the average Canadian family earns in a year.

00:41:56.360 Around this time last year, the CBC asked for more money.

00:42:00.060 After that, just before Christmas, the CBC announced layoffs in its newsrooms.

00:42:06.000 I've worked in many newsrooms, and getting let go is not a bowl of cherries.

00:42:10.540 But what about the bonuses at that same time?

00:42:13.500 Documents obtained by the CTF show the CBC did hand out bonuses, costing $18 million.

00:42:20.160 As the CBC fan group Friends of Canadian Media put it, quote,

00:42:25.620 This decision is deeply out of touch and unbefitting of our national public broadcaster, end quote.

00:42:31.980 Thank you to the members from the Conservatives, the Bloc, and the NDP,

00:42:36.700 who voted to hold the CBC to account for these bonuses.

00:42:39.920 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:42:42.280 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:42:45.100 As always, we'll see you back in the same time, in the same place.

00:42:48.320 And, as is my tagline,

00:42:50.500 don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:42:53.060 We'll see you back in the same time, in the same time.

Rebel News Podcast - December 05, 2024

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Michelle Stirling debunks anti-Catholic 'shock-u-mentary' on residential schools

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